As a Scottish voter who has never even actually voted SNP (though would probably have voted for Mhairi Black) I am incredibly sad to see her leaving parliament. Just such a strong and clear voice for what is just and correct.
I didn't realise that. What a sad day for the SNP and parliament. I personally thought that she was a major influence on those who were young and isn't her speeches in the House of Commons inspirational to both the young and older people like me. Let's hope that she writes a book on her experiences in Parliment. I'm sure that it would be an excellent book
Yes, was about to post the same thing! Watched the 2nd half via their stream and was so much more enjoyable and gave it context somehow, even if you don't agree with their comments.
Labour's factional warfare is not about trying to claim the centre ground. They are well to the right of voters on many issues including nationalizing utilities, calling for a cease fire in Gaza etc. Their factional warfare is all about carving up safe seats fro each other and removing any internal opposition to it.
sorry but your talking rubbish? first, thats where the public is at, centre left. but you also seem think when a party get into power they turn the system off and on again, like a reset. there is no money to pay shareholders to buy back all off the services? so you'd prefer then to be pure but in opposition, cos thats how the far left get things NOT done.
Not true. You are clearly futher left than you think. Remember the Tories have a majority today... that is the country as of 2019. The country will NOT elect a middle-far left party, and never have.
What to do with people like Farrage, don't give him more time than you need to, but when you talk about him, connect the dots between the dog whistles and the *outcomes*. What will the outcomes of his racism and xeonphobia be. This isn't mysterious, we have plenty of examples. His policies will lead to fascism, and they they will lead to economic destruction as well.
I always ask if the fishing community are happy with what Nigel did for them His track record speaks for itself, but Nigel doesn't like to look back at his record for some reason!
If they (Reform) should manage to overcome the Tories and become the official opposition he’ ll be exposed in NO TIME AT ALL, he’s a grifter, he doesnt want to do the everyday work, he just likes chucking firebombs at those that are doing it. Reform are lightweights, they offer ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and once the media crush has worn off and they face the glare of the media in a meaningful way, they’ll be exposed and a lot of simpletons and outright racists in England will be very disappointed IMO.
Why? He spent 30 years in Parliament doing nothing. He just turned up a few years ago because of memes and disappeared just as quickly. He contributed nothing to the Labour Party.
43:13 wrt what Mhairi said here - I’ve suddenly realised this last few months just how bad it is that schools don’t explain the UK’s democratic system at all. Like, I’m in my mid-20s, I was one of the most politically engaged kids in my year group at school and I only found out how first past the post actually works *this year*. Over the last couple of weeks in the run up to this election I (a random 20-something with no qualifications on the topic other than being someone who talks about the news a lot) have had multiple adults in their 40s or 50s awkwardly ask me to explain to them what first past the post is and how their vote is counted, because through multiple decades of elections they’ve been too embarrassed to ask anyone and admit that they don’t know how their own country’s electoral system works. Some of these people managed to raise children to adulthood and have them leave home before they got up the courage to ask someone where their vote actually goes. Genuinely I got more information about the basic function of the British political system from the Mash Report as a teenager than I did from my school or my college - and that is objectively not a good thing like I love Nish but that was a comedy show. Idk, I feel like I’ve just suddenly been slapped with the realisation that *no one* in this country has been sat down in school and had their democratic rights explained to them unless they took politics at A Level. I thought it was just my generation who had that information withheld, but if it’s *everyone* then that explains a hell of a lot.
They have no right to push Diane Abbot out of the Labour party and standing aside would have been letting them win. I admire her for standing her ground, honestly.
@@alan_davis it's massively important because her treatment (among many other examples) is very instructive of the underlying rot at the heart of the soon to be government.
@thomasandrewclifford In no way is the Conservative party still centre-right. There has been an concious effort to move the Overton window in the last decade, dramatically to the right. The conservatives now are like UKIP in the early 2010s. I wouldnt call them far-right as of yet, but certainly 'mid-right' or 'right-wing'. Put it this way the mainstream ideology of the Conservative party in 2010 was Liberal Conservativism, now its National Conservativism.
@thomasandrewclifford You are making a common mistake in your assessment here, the term "right wing" is not defined by the position of the party within a political ecosystem. It is dependent on the political position of the policy platform presented. There is no doubt that the conservative policy platform falls squarely to the right politically, it doesn't become less right wing simply because there are people to the right of them.
Rule by referendum is a terrible mistake. We need second chamber reform, regional devolution and proportional representation, and I don't think a referendum is needed. Make it part of an election manifesto, and if the party wins just do it.
Bang on Mhairi, I’ve been arguing this forever… POLITICAL EDUCATION. The British IMO are illiterate when it comes to politics. I blame it all on the historical Monarchy system that they have bowed before. Brits have a tendency to believe that Toffs are somehow their betters and so bow and scrape before them, believing they somehow know better. Its mindblowing to an Irishman to watch how they can be continually convinced to vote AGAINST their own best interests….. So, YES, bang on ….. POLITICAL EDUCATION and more importantly, Financial and Economic education.
@@MasrurMia-e6q😂 youre having a laugh. Galloway is a fruit loop. People should vote for whoever is the most progressive candidate in their area as progressives fight for the majority ie the many not the few.
As an American watching this, I'm a little jealous that Corbyn is keeping up the good fight for social, economic and environmental justice. Our version, Kshama Sawant, is still building a national voice and her Workers Strike Back organization is gaining support but too small to be felt in 2024. The majority of voters here have a memory of a goldfish if they think Trump is an agent of change. Biden/Trump/RFK Jr are all of the same mold and nothing short of a revolution will anything get better.
Ahhhhh, the 2019 election...... "Brexit was a massive issue" says Jeremy. His base was totally engaged with that but he wasn't and actively denied its importance. It was massively disheartening.
@@shaun906 that seems clear historically and was born out by his actions, at every available opportunity he made the move most likely to bring about Brexit as quickly as possible, no matter that it would give control of that Brexit to the Tories. Nish touched on it, Corbyn waffled a bit and they moved swiftly on. Corbyn could have been expressly pro leave but he didn't want to weaken his support in his base so he pretended to be remain and then disappeared from the argument. Any other Labour leader in his position after Foot would have had a great shot at getting a remain decision in the referendum but Corbyn performed a bait and switch knowing he would be warmly greeted in the next world as a hero by Tony Benn.
Faiza is the type of politician I want to see. And not just because she’s so pretty. She’s a good person and she actually cares about her job not just making money.
Nope. The rich will continue to get richer, the poor will continue to get poorer and the planet will continue to overheat. Welcome to the next 15 years.
I am glad that Jeremy Corbyn responded the way he responded about antisemitism in the Party. He was being honest. And factual. He’s a genuine person and didn’t try to be a fake politician in his answer. The Labour Party is showing who they really are right now in how they have treated Diane Abbott and Faiza Shaheen.
I believe Faiza should make a legal challenge to the ban. It seems the decision was made with advice from non-elected 21 plus advisers behind the elected Labour Leader.
What has happened to the broad church of Labour. The centre left leader Clement Attlee didn't ban Bevan from standing as an MP because he was a welsh left winger.
The Daily Fail, the Torygraph and even the Guardian under-mined JC BUT Corbyn himself chose to sit on the fence over Brexit. Corbyn himself chose to sing with Stormzy in some posh , expensive ticket festival instead of campaigning in 'Red Wall'seats. He let me down. I believe in those values. Not Corbyn's values, Socialist values and he might have lost but he should have lost honourably. and he didn't.
@@michellebarbour5777 he lost because the northern red wall and many rural areas supported Brexit. Politicians will always promote celebrity endorsements as thats a huge amount of fans that can be turned into voters.
@@sunseeker9581he lost because the country has never, and will never, elect a far left party. And seemingly not having any view for or against brexshit made him vague and unelectable. I actually think he would have been worse than Johnson. And I cannot believe I'm actually saying that...
The shameful treatment of Faiza will, I believe strengthen, her resolve to fight against the anti-progressive forces in the Labour Party, initially as an independent MP.
Honestly, I really don't like what Starmer's done to the Labour Party because it feels like he's turned his back on the people that Labour should be allies with; that's why I'll be voting for the Lib Dems in the General Election.
@thomasandrewcliffordyou mean every time they've actually been elected? You see the problem with your argument? Stay left wing socialist and never get elected, or move to the centre and appeal to 50%+ of the electorate. You cannot change anything without being in power.
3:03 'ang on a minute... when I worked in the public sector, in scientific computing, prior to the 2016 referendum, I tweeted out a link to a scientific publication on some new climate research. Within 2h I was accosted by my manager and told I needed to take the tweet down because it constituted expression of political opinion from a public servant, violating purdah. How are this lot able to do this?
I have subscribed as a result of this video because it was recommended to me in my feed and I look forward to more content - you both seem great and love the set up etc. and found it all very engaging and interesting. one thing that did stand out to me though was 25:35 onwards. it just seemed wild to me that such a framing would be taken against one of the most vocal and proactive anti-racist, anti-nazi and anti-semitic politicians in UK mainstream political history, and then doubled-down on it after his response.
Nish being blamed for Farage: Obama and Seth Meyers (same night seals killed Osama binLaden) "I heard Donald Trump is running as a Republican, I assumed he was running as a joke" Nish, nish, Nish
I voted for J.C. was maybe part of making Canterbury become more Left, I'm proud of that. BUT now, all I want is to see breakfast clubs for hungry kids, NO Rwanda flights and slightly less child poverty. Is voting the Tories out a bad thing? Nope. Get them out any way you can. Why would any Left wing activist want to prevent 'slightly better' if the other choice is a heck of a lot worse? Vote to get Tories out and don't let previous Corbyn voters, like me, stop you voting Labour this time. x
I mostly agree with you - some good change is better than waiting for a perfect option that may never come. But what I've found most painful about the current direction Labour are going in is their seeming resentment for people like me. If they were just drifting to the centre or the right by chance or apathy then that would be one thing, but actively pruning the left, then expecting me, a leftist, to vote for them because "who else are you going to vote for?". I don't feel like I'd be voting for a party who just happen to be less left wing than me (which I'm very used to doing by now, I've done that in most elections in my life) - I feel like I'd be voting for a party that actively hates me and my views. Why would I give them my vote? And yes, yes, I know we have to get rid of the Tories. I'm not an idiot or a fanatic. I'll probably vote Labour in the end because they're the only real opposition to the Tories in my area, historically speaking. But I'm allowed to feel hurt by politicians actively moving against policies I feel would help real people. I'm allowed to speak out against what I feel are short sighted policies that will lose them voters in the long run. I'm allowed to say that holding a whole set of voters hostage because "if you don't vote for us, the even bigger twats will keep starving children" is the sign of an absolute failure of an electoral system - an electoral system which Labour chose not to support the reform of because they realised AV failing would take down the Lib Dems, their biggest rivals against the Tories. Please don't act like being angry at the clear resentment against the left within Labour right now is somehow selfish or overly emotional. Democracy shouldn't be like this.
@@SliceOfDogabsolutely, Labour has done nothing but show how little they value your vote. Why would anyone give it to them when they clearly don’t want it and disrespect your beliefs at every turn?
All the lies the Labour right told, alleging anti Semitism, constitute inciting racial hatred. I will not vote for a party which is racist, just because the Conservatives are worse.
This is very shoet termist thinking imo. Voting in a right wing Labour party means Overton window will continue to shift right. It feels inevitable then that a far right Tory party (or Reform?) will do very well in the subsequent election because of this.
I get people wanting to vote Labour to get rid of the Tories, but if you can vote for Faiza in Chingford or Leanne in Ilford North, you have another option 🙂
I believe Starmer has removed Faiza from standing as a Labour MP because she is probably the most effective competitor for the future Labour leadership.
I hate the Conservative Party, I hate Sunak and all his acolytes in the Party. While Labour say and do things which can be debateable I will vote for them to get these horrible pigs out
@@Shadowman4710 Well you give Labour a chance. Why? You want 5 more years of this - broken NHS, literal crap in rivers, poor being demonised, Farage dragging the Tories ever further right, removing our rights. Or are you a Corbyn ( who will lose his seat) fan and want to live as an ideologue and cultist?
@@VinceLammas That is a real problem. The word socialist like many words have been given changed meaning in some people's minds. Like Hitler, Starmer pretended to be socialist to gain power. It's sad that people don't recognise it. Now they will further privatise our public services and give us Great British Energy which sounds like a public service and uses foreign private companies
Nish, I appreciate the interview, but had you read a certain report which if I were to type it normally, my comment would disappear so it's basically 'Ford' but with an 'e' on the end, you probably wouldn't have asked 'that' question. What went on behind the scenes, and deliberately under reported was incredibly unpleasant, but the findings vindicate your guest, and his response to the initial report. People shouldn't be upset at him, but those who drove the debunked narrative.
It was effectively undermined by Starmer who engineered the vote-losing second referendum policy. Starmer led a deliberate assault on his own party in order to oust Corbyn and run for the leadership. This is outlined in Oliver Eagleton's book The Starmer Project - well worth a read. Also covered in The Big Lie, free to watch on RUclips.
It's pronounced the way the person whose name it is says it's pronounced. Some people called Mhairi are pronounced Varry. Every Mhairi I know (there have been about 3 Mhairis in every place I've worked in the last decade) pronounce their names Marry and that's right FOR THEM. Who are you to tell people how to pronounce their own name?
It is interesting to hear Jeremy Corbyn talk at length and I empathise with many of his core principles. I admire his passion but his political leadership skills are woeful. He complains about the factional activities of his opponents while blind to those of his own supporters. It is good to hear he supports more delegation of power and sees the benefits of PR regardless of the preferences of individual MPs for a strong constituency link. He says it was simply impossible to unite Labour during the Brexit parliament. I don’t see any recognition that he made two spectacularly unsuccessful attempts to convince the electorate on a radical left-wing manifesto. Apparently, the need for his policies is unarguable - he’s living in a dreamworld. Never suited for political power, he can go back to ‘campaigning”.
Snp are good 👍 you have free prescriptions/ free university education /free school meals and no human/ animal waste pumped into your rivers. You will lose all that with labour or conservative. 😊
Now Starmer says he is thinking of Palestinians…..lmao 100% the onus of perfection will be on Palestinians and Zionists will chose the rules and do the marking., and not be held to any account themselves. Either that….or he will abandon it at convenience….or say it wasn’t him.
They actually don’t, Jeremy is/was the best the Left have (an honest man) … The issue is the state of the politics in the Uk, the media having the ability to lead and define it all. He wouldnt have made a good PM I’ll grant you that bit with a good team he could have done so much good in the UK. Unfortunately, he was surrounded by rats and snakes … which brings us back to the nature of GB politics. Its a sewer.
I feel so let down by labour, they may as well be torys light under keir, will they even nationalise the water and rail, will they kick companies out of the nhs, or will they just carry on with tory polices, we are voting for change not more of the same, so saying we will do what the torys have said they will do is not a selling point!
is the sadcase lloro...6347 hiding replies, rather than turning to 27 minutes in "Natasha Hausdorff on South Africa’s flagship News Programme “It's Topical” on SABC" as instructed? awwwwwwww
@@markpennell4434 I hate swearing and refuse to listen to it. For me it becomes the distraction and doesn't matter what anyone is saying all I can think about is that they are swearing and I don't want to listen to it.
I think you’re underselling how effective that bumbling mophead was at getting the British electorate on his side. I’ll never really understand it, but he was still widely beloved even by the time he got booted out.
You do realize he was under attack from the centrists within his party, and the media everyone hysterical by claiming he was anti-semetic. Since his loss there's been a purge of leftists in the labour party.
"Simple election" where Corbyn had FBPE types screaming at him for a 2nd ref whilst red wall voters wanted Brexit. Meanwhile you had right wing Labour MPs trying to bring him down from within. And only an idiot would deny that Boris is a great campaigner, whether you like him or not.
Talking is great but seriously using the F word all the time mean you can’t quite articulate your views without using profanity 1 million times understanding it’s a podcast and it’s more relaxed but please expand you look smart so smart
Take a moment to reflect and remember the brave young men who stormed the beaches, parched in behind enemy lines, piloted gliders into enemy held positions and all the others who served on this the 80th anniversary of D-day. You were the greatest generation because you knew what it meant to sacrifice for others
Right, Florida man, so that means people have had at least 80 opportunities to say exactly that. It's now 2024 and we're still going on about the whole Glorious War thing. It's good to remember but not to relive it.
@thomasandrewclifford we know now that he's either an incredibly determined antisemite, or relies on antisemitism as a means of tying together his support - beyond any doubt
@@Elspm nope, there's no doubt about the centrality of antisemitism to his politics. see his travel to the hague to see the 'case' against israel brought by south africa for the ultimate confirmation. there is no longer a scintilla of doubt about whether he has advanced through an embrace of antisemitism
@thomasandrewcliffordyou're going to be as mad as hell at hoe easy it is to show that you're a hack - but separate out his trip to the hague, then consider whether his 'interpretation' of events was accurate, or not. i'll save you the time. it wasn't. yet there is not the slightest possibility that that could have been due to a lack of accurate information. his embrace of antisemitism is intentional, beyond any reasonable doubt
As a Scottish voter who has never even actually voted SNP (though would probably have voted for Mhairi Black) I am incredibly sad to see her leaving parliament. Just such a strong and clear voice for what is just and correct.
That is hilarious
Mhairi Black standing down, what a loss to Parliament
Mhairi Black and Caroline Lucas, two big losses for me...
@@Midland_Wolf_71 Absolutely agree
It's a shame she's calling social democracy socialism. I'd never vote for Marxist economics.
I didn't realise that.
What a sad day for the SNP and parliament.
I personally thought that she was a major influence on those who were young and isn't her speeches in the House of Commons inspirational to both the young and older people like me.
Let's hope that she writes a book on her experiences in Parliment.
I'm sure that it would be an excellent book
@@clive-live Yes I always thought she had a big future in ahead in Parliament too. Perhaps she will make an impact in other ways.
Lots of love and good luck for this election cycle from Germany!
Faiza was deselected because she’s a strong candidate. vile Labour people were comparing her to tractor porn or sexual assaults. Shameful.
vote labour or your really a tory enabler!
* citation needed
@@alan_davis Wes Streeting I think it was on the Today Show. But there were other examples too
The only thing that made the debate watchable was.... streaming it via Novara Media!
Yes, was about to post the same thing! Watched the 2nd half via their stream and was so much more enjoyable and gave it context somehow, even if you don't agree with their comments.
Precisely!
Yeah, I couldn't have hacked it otherwise.
Helped me get through half of it, that was all my blood pressure could take though. 😂
Holla!
Loved hearing honest and caring politician's speaking sense for a change. Thanks JC and Mhairi!
Labour's factional warfare is not about trying to claim the centre ground. They are well to the right of voters on many issues including nationalizing utilities, calling for a cease fire in Gaza etc. Their factional warfare is all about carving up safe seats fro each other and removing any internal opposition to it.
sorry but your talking rubbish? first, thats where the public is at, centre left. but you also seem think when a party get into power they turn the system off and on again, like a reset. there is no money to pay shareholders to buy back all off the services? so you'd prefer then to be pure but in opposition, cos thats how the far left get things NOT done.
Not true. You are clearly futher left than you think.
Remember the Tories have a majority today... that is the country as of 2019. The country will NOT elect a middle-far left party, and never have.
What to do with people like Farrage, don't give him more time than you need to, but when you talk about him, connect the dots between the dog whistles and the *outcomes*. What will the outcomes of his racism and xeonphobia be. This isn't mysterious, we have plenty of examples. His policies will lead to fascism, and they they will lead to economic destruction as well.
I always ask if the fishing community are happy with what Nigel did for them
His track record speaks for itself, but Nigel doesn't like to look back at his record for some reason!
If they (Reform) should manage to overcome the Tories and become the official opposition he’ ll be exposed in NO TIME AT ALL, he’s a grifter, he doesnt want to do the everyday work, he just likes chucking firebombs at those that are doing it. Reform are lightweights, they offer ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and once the media crush has worn off and they face the glare of the media in a meaningful way, they’ll be exposed and a lot of simpletons and outright racists in England will be very disappointed IMO.
# Vote Jeremy Corbyn.
Jeremy, W. LDN loves you ❤
Why? He spent 30 years in Parliament doing nothing. He just turned up a few years ago because of memes and disappeared just as quickly. He contributed nothing to the Labour Party.
I don't.
They didn’t let him contribute accusing him of being antisemitic. Now the whole world has turned antisemitic so he was right all along
43:13 wrt what Mhairi said here - I’ve suddenly realised this last few months just how bad it is that schools don’t explain the UK’s democratic system at all. Like, I’m in my mid-20s, I was one of the most politically engaged kids in my year group at school and I only found out how first past the post actually works *this year*.
Over the last couple of weeks in the run up to this election I (a random 20-something with no qualifications on the topic other than being someone who talks about the news a lot) have had multiple adults in their 40s or 50s awkwardly ask me to explain to them what first past the post is and how their vote is counted, because through multiple decades of elections they’ve been too embarrassed to ask anyone and admit that they don’t know how their own country’s electoral system works. Some of these people managed to raise children to adulthood and have them leave home before they got up the courage to ask someone where their vote actually goes.
Genuinely I got more information about the basic function of the British political system from the Mash Report as a teenager than I did from my school or my college - and that is objectively not a good thing like I love Nish but that was a comedy show.
Idk, I feel like I’ve just suddenly been slapped with the realisation that *no one* in this country has been sat down in school and had their democratic rights explained to them unless they took politics at A Level. I thought it was just my generation who had that information withheld, but if it’s *everyone* then that explains a hell of a lot.
That debate was garbage. But it was still better than US debates.
That's not really a reassurance. It's more .. expect it to get worse.
That made me laugh !! Now, back to the crying..
The tories have got nothing to lose so they attacked the life out of the debate
Hooray for Mhairi we will miss a sane voice!
Diane should have resigned and gone independent too
Yes I think Diane would have won as an independent unfortunately I'm not sure about faiza shaheen winning would say she probably won't.
Totally agree
They have no right to push Diane Abbot out of the Labour party and standing aside would have been letting them win. I admire her for standing her ground, honestly.
She's a sideshow. Hopefully she'll stand and get elected, but it isn't important unless you live in her constituency.
@@alan_davis it's massively important because her treatment (among many other examples) is very instructive of the underlying rot at the heart of the soon to be government.
I've just worked out how the transcripts work.
A technological treat 😋
I can now play the funny bits of your show 'over and over again' 😆
1:28 please let’s not refer to Tory’s as centrist.
Some are and most aren't, maybe that's too complex for you.
@thomasandrewclifford In no way is the Conservative party still centre-right. There has been an concious effort to move the Overton window in the last decade, dramatically to the right. The conservatives now are like UKIP in the early 2010s. I wouldnt call them far-right as of yet, but certainly 'mid-right' or 'right-wing'. Put it this way the mainstream ideology of the Conservative party in 2010 was Liberal Conservativism, now its National Conservativism.
@@tomsavage8217 my sentiments exactly.
@thomasandrewclifford You are making a common mistake in your assessment here, the term "right wing" is not defined by the position of the party within a political ecosystem. It is dependent on the political position of the policy platform presented. There is no doubt that the conservative policy platform falls squarely to the right politically, it doesn't become less right wing simply because there are people to the right of them.
@@tomsavage8217really! Sunak and Starmer chat with Blair on a regular basis.
Thanks, watching from New Zealand.
Watch The Labour Files part 1 & 2 (al jazeera)..& The Big Lie (Alexei Sayle) … says it all about the toxic Labour Right 😡
al jazeera lol
Love this podcast.
Rule by referendum is a terrible mistake. We need second chamber reform, regional devolution and proportional representation, and I don't think a referendum is needed. Make it part of an election manifesto, and if the party wins just do it.
Agreed with you 100% until a poll showing 15%+ Reform vote.
Now I'm supporting FPTP !!!
Well the LibDems have proportional representation in their election manifesto soo...
I wish you’d talked about Luke Aykehursts candidacy in North Durham. It’s so wrong & really emphasises the hypocrisy of what they’ve done to Fiasa.
100% That was staggeringly un-democratic - authoritarian, in fact. And Akehurst's views on the Israel-Palestine conflict are far right of centre.
Bang on Mhairi, I’ve been arguing this forever… POLITICAL EDUCATION. The British IMO are illiterate when it comes to politics. I blame it all on the historical Monarchy system that they have bowed before. Brits have a tendency to believe that Toffs are somehow their betters and so bow and scrape before them, believing they somehow know better.
Its mindblowing to an Irishman to watch how they can be continually convinced to vote AGAINST their own best interests….. So, YES, bang on ….. POLITICAL EDUCATION and more importantly, Financial and Economic education.
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they read things like the dailyhail!
Vote Green or Independent
Vote only for Workers Party of George Galloway
@@MasrurMia-e6q Nope. He's a homophobe and transphobe.
Vote tactically or give the Tories another seat.
@@MasrurMia-e6q😂 youre having a laugh. Galloway is a fruit loop. People should vote for whoever is the most progressive candidate in their area as progressives fight for the majority ie the many not the few.
@@sunseeker9581 Ok Zionazis hate GG so I am going to vote GG at any cost.You are the another reason to vote Workers Party of George Galloway
As an American watching this, I'm a little jealous that Corbyn is keeping up the good fight for social, economic and environmental justice. Our version, Kshama Sawant, is still building a national voice and her Workers Strike Back organization is gaining support but too small to be felt in 2024. The majority of voters here have a memory of a goldfish if they think Trump is an agent of change. Biden/Trump/RFK Jr are all of the same mold and nothing short of a revolution will anything get better.
Bernie.
Ahhhhh, the 2019 election...... "Brexit was a massive issue" says Jeremy. His base was totally engaged with that but he wasn't and actively denied its importance. It was massively disheartening.
he was pro leave!
@@shaun906 that seems clear historically and was born out by his actions, at every available opportunity he made the move most likely to bring about Brexit as quickly as possible, no matter that it would give control of that Brexit to the Tories. Nish touched on it, Corbyn waffled a bit and they moved swiftly on.
Corbyn could have been expressly pro leave but he didn't want to weaken his support in his base so he pretended to be remain and then disappeared from the argument. Any other Labour leader in his position after Foot would have had a great shot at getting a remain decision in the referendum but Corbyn performed a bait and switch knowing he would be warmly greeted in the next world as a hero by Tony Benn.
Faiza is the type of politician I want to see. And not just because she’s so pretty. She’s a good person and she actually cares about her job not just making money.
Which is why Labour HQ felt they had to get rid of her.
I would love to see you guys collaborate with Some More News.
They might not be radical enough for SMN 😅 /mostly joking
The Kumar, Katie, Coco, Cody Showdy feat. Warmbo... I'd watch the hell out of that.
They are too liberal for that show, way too centrist
I love that the lib dems are waving and smiling behind Sunak who is totally oblivious!😅
I didn’t watch this for a reason! It’s no different to PMQs!
You forgot to mention that Grant Shapps has many different jobs under several different names!! 😮
Mr corbyn will win and put Labour to shame
I fully support you Mr Corbyn
Even though Faiza is ban and standing as an independent it doesn't mean she shouldn't challenge the ban in the mean time.
"Nothing will fundamentally change"
Is the message I'm getting from Starmers Labour party.
Pretty sure they never put out that message...
@@alan_davis perhaps learning to read between the lines....
Nope. The rich will continue to get richer, the poor will continue to get poorer and the planet will continue to overheat. Welcome to the next 15 years.
I am glad that Jeremy Corbyn responded the way he responded about antisemitism in the Party. He was being honest. And factual. He’s a genuine person and didn’t try to be a fake politician in his answer. The Labour Party is showing who they really are right now in how they have treated Diane Abbott and Faiza Shaheen.
Yawn
you are broadcasting live from Fringe?? oh very cool, thank you!
I believe Faiza should make a legal challenge to the ban. It seems the decision was made with advice from non-elected 21 plus advisers behind the elected Labour Leader.
What has happened to the broad church of Labour. The centre left leader Clement Attlee didn't ban Bevan from standing as an MP because he was a welsh left winger.
Lol 😆 "Clapton" I need that clip@'#
13:32 Just here for Corbz!
the guy that lost the election? god i had to hold my nose to vote for corbyn in 2019. he has a nasty side!
Completely misrepresented what Corbyn said, and what was happening at the time. Proper melt behaviour.
The Daily Fail, the Torygraph and even the Guardian under-mined JC BUT Corbyn himself chose to sit on the fence over Brexit. Corbyn himself chose to sing with Stormzy in some posh , expensive ticket festival instead of campaigning in 'Red Wall'seats. He let me down. I believe in those values. Not Corbyn's values, Socialist values and he might have lost but he should have lost honourably. and he didn't.
@@michellebarbour5777 he lost because the northern red wall and many rural areas supported Brexit. Politicians will always promote celebrity endorsements as thats a huge amount of fans that can be turned into voters.
@@michellebarbour5777 no you don't or you wouldn't support Rachel reeves Thatcherism.
@@sunseeker9581he lost because the country has never, and will never, elect a far left party.
And seemingly not having any view for or against brexshit made him vague and unelectable.
I actually think he would have been worse than Johnson. And I cannot believe I'm actually saying that...
The shameful treatment of Faiza will, I believe strengthen, her resolve to fight against the anti-progressive forces in the Labour Party, initially as an independent MP.
Nothing about ground rent and abolishing Service Charges that are usually imposed on people on low to middle income?
41:00 I shed a small tear (at the cost of 30p) because you forgot about the existence of Lee Anderson as a Reform UK MP 😂
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"History doesn't do anything. People do."
Colin and Clive Conversations in the Kitchen
5th December 2023
I cannot believe you even considering Labour that does not represent working people or Britain but th represents the lobbies and the Israeli!
Completely incoherent. Use sentences and punctuation FFS!
Mhairi Black speaks some good sense here
Honestly, I really don't like what Starmer's done to the Labour Party because it feels like he's turned his back on the people that Labour should be allies with; that's why I'll be voting for the Lib Dems in the General Election.
The labour right for you
Lib dems aren't left wing
@thomasandrewcliffordyou mean every time they've actually been elected?
You see the problem with your argument? Stay left wing socialist and never get elected, or move to the centre and appeal to 50%+ of the electorate.
You cannot change anything without being in power.
3:03 'ang on a minute... when I worked in the public sector, in scientific computing, prior to the 2016 referendum, I tweeted out a link to a scientific publication on some new climate research. Within 2h I was accosted by my manager and told I needed to take the tweet down because it constituted expression of political opinion from a public servant, violating purdah.
How are this lot able to do this?
Not covered by the same rules as they are not mainstream media, they are a podcast.
Not a public service, not a mainstream media outlet (TV)
Not everyone is covered by purdah.
I have subscribed as a result of this video because it was recommended to me in my feed and I look forward to more content - you both seem great and love the set up etc. and found it all very engaging and interesting.
one thing that did stand out to me though was 25:35 onwards. it just seemed wild to me that such a framing would be taken against one of the most vocal and proactive anti-racist, anti-nazi and anti-semitic politicians in UK mainstream political history, and then doubled-down on it after his response.
Nish being blamed for Farage: Obama and Seth Meyers (same night seals killed Osama binLaden) "I heard Donald Trump is running as a Republican, I assumed he was running as a joke" Nish, nish, Nish
I'm here for Corbyn ❤
you know he lost?
Ps - I feel like Delia on the pitch at Norwich but "Let's be avin' you!"
The bad language used on this program is unbelievable! Cut it out it’s not necessary!🥺
I voted for J.C. was maybe part of making Canterbury become more Left, I'm proud of that. BUT now, all I want is to see breakfast clubs for hungry kids, NO Rwanda flights and slightly less child poverty. Is voting the Tories out a bad thing? Nope. Get them out any way you can. Why would any Left wing activist want to prevent 'slightly better' if the other choice is a heck of a lot worse? Vote to get Tories out and don't let previous Corbyn voters, like me, stop you voting Labour this time. x
I mostly agree with you - some good change is better than waiting for a perfect option that may never come.
But what I've found most painful about the current direction Labour are going in is their seeming resentment for people like me. If they were just drifting to the centre or the right by chance or apathy then that would be one thing, but actively pruning the left, then expecting me, a leftist, to vote for them because "who else are you going to vote for?". I don't feel like I'd be voting for a party who just happen to be less left wing than me (which I'm very used to doing by now, I've done that in most elections in my life) - I feel like I'd be voting for a party that actively hates me and my views. Why would I give them my vote?
And yes, yes, I know we have to get rid of the Tories. I'm not an idiot or a fanatic. I'll probably vote Labour in the end because they're the only real opposition to the Tories in my area, historically speaking. But I'm allowed to feel hurt by politicians actively moving against policies I feel would help real people. I'm allowed to speak out against what I feel are short sighted policies that will lose them voters in the long run. I'm allowed to say that holding a whole set of voters hostage because "if you don't vote for us, the even bigger twats will keep starving children" is the sign of an absolute failure of an electoral system - an electoral system which Labour chose not to support the reform of because they realised AV failing would take down the Lib Dems, their biggest rivals against the Tories.
Please don't act like being angry at the clear resentment against the left within Labour right now is somehow selfish or overly emotional. Democracy shouldn't be like this.
@@SliceOfDogabsolutely, Labour has done nothing but show how little they value your vote. Why would anyone give it to them when they clearly don’t want it and disrespect your beliefs at every turn?
All the lies the Labour right told, alleging anti Semitism, constitute inciting racial hatred. I will not vote for a party which is racist, just because the Conservatives are worse.
This is very shoet termist thinking imo. Voting in a right wing Labour party means Overton window will continue to shift right.
It feels inevitable then that a far right Tory party (or Reform?) will do very well in the subsequent election because of this.
I get people wanting to vote Labour to get rid of the Tories, but if you can vote for Faiza in Chingford or Leanne in Ilford North, you have another option 🙂
Nish, thanks for the career advice. I'm going to be prime minister for the next 5 years and it's all YOUR fault! Love, Nigel F
I believe Starmer has removed Faiza from standing as a Labour MP because she is probably the most effective competitor for the future Labour leadership.
You are referring to the marxists?
I hate the Conservative Party, I hate Sunak and all his acolytes in the Party. While Labour say and do things which can be debateable I will vote for them to get these horrible pigs out
Okay...and then what?
@@Shadowman4710 Well you give Labour a chance. Why? You want 5 more years of this - broken NHS, literal crap in rivers, poor being demonised, Farage dragging the Tories ever further right, removing our rights. Or are you a Corbyn ( who will lose his seat) fan and want to live as an ideologue and cultist?
Please don't insult pigs. They're wonderful and intelligent animals ❤
Don't expect to see any change. Seriously.
Labour Party shouldn't be a broad church. It's traditionally socialist
It is definitely not socialist now
Not with starmer.
The fact is though, the meaning of "socialist" covers a whole range of views
@@VinceLammas That is a real problem. The word socialist like many words have been given changed meaning in some people's minds. Like Hitler, Starmer pretended to be socialist to gain power. It's sad that people don't recognise it. Now they will further privatise our public services and give us Great British Energy which sounds like a public service and uses foreign private companies
If you just want Labour to be "socialist" they will never be elected.
We are Voting Green in Norwich. ❎❎❎❎❎❎
Any one notice that before the debate, Nish was the first up for the chase. I've not watched in years but I thought he'd mention it!
Chase?
I thought the debate was fine. I live in Spain
Too hot for me. If igo to Spain 🇪🇸 for holidays it will be October month.
Sunstroke will do that to a man, it was ABYSMAL.
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@@Midland_Wolf_71 whoooosh!
Nish, I appreciate the interview, but had you read a certain report which if I were to type it normally, my comment would disappear so it's basically 'Ford' but with an 'e' on the end, you probably wouldn't have asked 'that' question. What went on behind the scenes, and deliberately under reported was incredibly unpleasant, but the findings vindicate your guest, and his response to the initial report. People shouldn't be upset at him, but those who drove the debunked narrative.
Starmer ruined labour
Diane Abbott was incompetent, always was, the fact she was ever voted in was mind boggling
His remain campaign was derisory
What campaign?
@@alan_davis Exactly
It was effectively undermined by Starmer who engineered the vote-losing second referendum policy. Starmer led a deliberate assault on his own party in order to oust Corbyn and run for the leadership. This is outlined in Oliver Eagleton's book The Starmer Project - well worth a read. Also covered in The Big Lie, free to watch on RUclips.
It's pronounced Varry
It is only pronounced like that in the Scots language of Lalands.
It's pronounced the way the person whose name it is says it's pronounced. Some people called Mhairi are pronounced Varry. Every Mhairi I know (there have been about 3 Mhairis in every place I've worked in the last decade) pronounce their names Marry and that's right FOR THEM. Who are you to tell people how to pronounce their own name?
Just discovered your prog😋..brilliant!👍❤️🕊️
I imagine Starmer is happy Jess Philips is threatened with losing since he despises autonomy.
*citation needed
WTF .....
Do you know what “decimated” means? Ot are you just trying to sound smart?
I do, and I'm interested why you think it wasn't a suitable word?
It is interesting to hear Jeremy Corbyn talk at length and I empathise with many of his core principles. I admire his passion but his political leadership skills are woeful. He complains about the factional activities of his opponents while blind to those of his own supporters.
It is good to hear he supports more delegation of power and sees the benefits of PR regardless of the preferences of individual MPs for a strong constituency link.
He says it was simply impossible to unite Labour during the Brexit parliament. I don’t see any recognition that he made two spectacularly unsuccessful attempts to convince the electorate on a radical left-wing manifesto. Apparently, the need for his policies is unarguable - he’s living in a dreamworld. Never suited for political power, he can go back to ‘campaigning”.
I'd like to vote Green, even with their issues, but I'm up in Scotland and I'm likely stuck with SNP to get the Tories out.
Snp are good 👍 you have free prescriptions/ free university education /free school meals and no human/ animal waste pumped into your rivers. You will lose all that with labour or conservative. 😊
@@jake751no they won't, that is all devolved powers.
Don’t keep assuming, thar Starmer will win!
Now Starmer says he is thinking of Palestinians…..lmao
100% the onus of perfection will be on Palestinians and Zionists will chose the rules and do the marking., and not be held to any account themselves.
Either that….or he will abandon it at convenience….or say it wasn’t him.
I thought we were all done with Corbyn. :-( Surely the left has better spokespeople.
They didn’t go to state schools
They actually don’t, Jeremy is/was the best the Left have (an honest man) … The issue is the state of the politics in the Uk, the media having the ability to lead and define it all. He wouldnt have made a good PM I’ll grant you that bit with a good team he could have done so much good in the UK. Unfortunately, he was surrounded by rats and snakes … which brings us back to the nature of GB politics. Its a sewer.
Yes agree 👍 people should watch The Labour Files & The Big Lie (Alexei Sayle).. says it all
@@Midland_Wolf_71
I totally agree with you 💯
Look at Dianne Abbott and then look at Paddy Pimblett’s haircut…..someone is a fan
I feel so let down by labour, they may as well be torys light under keir, will they even nationalise the water and rail, will they kick companies out of the nhs, or will they just carry on with tory polices, we are voting for change not more of the same, so saying we will do what the torys have said they will do is not a selling point!
Both guys have to step down
#100. For the algorithm
is the sadcase lloro...6347 hiding replies, rather than turning to 27 minutes in "Natasha Hausdorff on South Africa’s flagship News Programme “It's Topical” on SABC" as instructed?
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I wanted to listen to what you had to say but there is too much swearing.
always a substitute for reasoned argument
@@markpennell4434 I hate swearing and refuse to listen to it. For me it becomes the distraction and doesn't matter what anyone is saying all I can think about is that they are swearing and I don't want to listen to it.
Interesting fact: people with larger vocabulary- generally more intelligent people - swear more.
Let's not forget that Jezza decimated the whole of the Labour party in a simple election against a bumbleling mop head.
decimated is 1 in 10; thinkit was worse than that.
I think you’re underselling how effective that bumbling mophead was at getting the British electorate on his side. I’ll never really understand it, but he was still widely beloved even by the time he got booted out.
It was Starmers Brexit policy that was mostly to blame.
You do realize he was under attack from the centrists within his party, and the media everyone hysterical by claiming he was anti-semetic. Since his loss there's been a purge of leftists in the labour party.
"Simple election" where Corbyn had FBPE types screaming at him for a 2nd ref whilst red wall voters wanted Brexit. Meanwhile you had right wing Labour MPs trying to bring him down from within.
And only an idiot would deny that Boris is a great campaigner, whether you like him or not.
Talking is great but seriously using the F word all the time mean you can’t quite articulate your views without using profanity 1 million times understanding it’s a podcast and it’s more relaxed but please expand you look smart so smart
You really don't get to criticise when you're THAT illiterate.
Stop tone policing.
Take a moment to reflect and remember the brave young men who stormed the beaches, parched in behind enemy lines, piloted gliders into enemy held positions and all the others who served on this the 80th anniversary of D-day.
You were the greatest generation because you knew what it meant to sacrifice for others
For heavens sake 🙄
Right, Florida man, so that means people have had at least 80 opportunities to say exactly that. It's now 2024 and we're still going on about the whole Glorious War thing. It's good to remember but not to relive it.
jeremy corbyn? shameful
The way he was treated by the party? Sure.
@thomasandrewclifford we know now that he's either an incredibly determined antisemite, or relies on antisemitism as a means of tying together his support - beyond any doubt
@@Elspm nope, there's no doubt about the centrality of antisemitism to his politics. see his travel to the hague to see the 'case' against israel brought by south africa for the ultimate confirmation. there is no longer a scintilla of doubt about whether he has advanced through an embrace of antisemitism
@thomasandrewcliffordyou're going to be as mad as hell at hoe easy it is to show that you're a hack - but separate out his trip to the hague, then consider whether his 'interpretation' of events was accurate, or not. i'll save you the time. it wasn't. yet there is not the slightest possibility that that could have been due to a lack of accurate information. his embrace of antisemitism is intentional, beyond any reasonable doubt
bless him - @thomasandrewclifford is hiding my replies to him. lol. corbyn supporters are all such tools
Basically the Labour party are conservative light that is all they are vote green and to hell with labour
We are all voting Green in Norwich and Norfolk. People are going from Labour/Tory/Lib Dems. ❎❎❎❎❎❎
Platforming Corbyn? Corbyn? I'm blocking this channel. I used to like it.
Judging by your comments, it's hard to understand how you ever liked this channel! 😂
Bye Bye
Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
lol