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Chris Packham is a total legend, from The Really Wild Show right up to the present. The best thing about him is that, after he *actually* addresses *actual* reality, he points to the known solutions we have. Stuff like this, when spoken by politicians spouting complete nonsense, normally makes me vibrate with anger; Packham actually gives me a little hope, albeit a mostly forlorn hope
I find politicians talking now about fair transitions away from fossil fuel so frustrating. Not because we don't need to make transitions fair (we do), but because they've been saying this shit for decades and not doing it. Just nationalise the damn thing and transition already.
I suspect they pick these target dates as they're the year the person doing the picking is likely to be dead. That way there's no chance of personal blowback when the target isn't met.
Nuclear waste wouldn't be so bad. If you had a society that can think long term. It's not like fissable materiels don't exist before they're used. We just concentrate them. So it's not fundamentally terrible, but the problem is that we are saddled with neoliberal ideology which will never think long term, and will always mismanage. Now the other problem with nuclear power is' that it's another fossil fuel. it won't raise carbon, but it also won't last long term. If we shifted the majority of electricity generation to nuclear, we'd hit the peak in 30 or so years, and then we'd need to shift to renewables.
@@shadebug As you imply, policy must be based on things we know exist. If I misread you, then understand that investment in proven fission technologies do not actually bootstrap fusion power. They're entirely unrelated, though both worth funding. It would be cool if a get-out-of-jail-free card existed but.. well.. it probably doesn't. And we can't rely on it.
@@jsrodman absolutely but I dare say the people willing to invest in cleaner, more efficient fission will be the same ones people willing to invest in fusion
Spotlighting Swift on this issue is just idiotic. It's as ridiculous as MAGA freaking out about her dating Travis Kelce and possibly endorsing Biden. Do better.
No it is not. You are wrong. They could have made the spotlight Michael Platt, a multi billionaire and the fifth richest person in the UK. He probably has a lifestyle that releases much more carbon than the average British person. But what's the point in using a person that absolutely no one has heard of to present an argument? Most people are sophisticated enough to understand that it's not personal with Taylor Swift. She's just a well known figure being used to illustrate a wider point.
Yes, but not the right time Chris as we are desperately trying to hang onto democracy in the US and Taylor is a Democrat ally! Please hold off till after the election. If Trump wins say goodbye to all you hold dear!
What is he talking about "there is no issue with wind or solar". Both methods require storage, massive amounts of storage. Batteries are expensive and contain extremely toxic waste. They also require open pit mining to acquire the materials to make them. Nuclear waste can be recycled. They already do it in Japan. There is very little actual waste from a modern nuclear plant. They are also very safe. This is another situation where the solution is a both/and approach, not an either/or approach.
Chinese company CATL says it's found a way to use salt to make batteries. Unfortunately, they haven't shared that information, but once other countries figure it out we should be in a much better position. We do need to improve all power grids to best utilise wind, solar and wave energy.
@@markwelch3564 I agree, and those methods are used in the mountains where I live. But we are talking about Great Britain. They have pretty limited options.
@@markwelch3564 excellent! My main point though was to take all avenues. One option will not work everywhere and in every situation. We need to be willing to be flexible.
I hate it. Everything has to have great in it. Like this Great British Rail thing as well. Whats wrong with just British Rail. Once upon a time there may have actually been something great about Great Britain but it ain't no more and never will be. The worlds changed.
I do love the show but would love if you could talk to energy experts about energy not people who think renewables alone can provide continuous power 24/7/365. We can create sustainable energy sources in time but needs more nuanced discussion.
Thanks Chris for highlighting the need to transition away from animal agriculture. The solutions are available and the technology has been developed. The problem is that investors are sitting on their money and allowing viable companies to go bankrupt. The transition is being stalled for want of capital.
I love this pod, but would love a two sided pod... I would like to see someone like Billionaire labour supporting John Cauldwell, Deborah Meadon, Multi millionaire inequality activist Gary Stevenson and Chris Packham in the room together.
In order for people to exercise their power you talk about, you need to give them a pathway to action. Without it we're doomed watching the end of the world home on our screens.
New Zealand right wing govt now removed tough farm emissions tough standards increase in mining sorry world Im 76 and I am so proud of the younger people our green party around 12% and 3rd largest party in nz plus Maori party @ 4 so some hope I would think that income the swifties have brought to your country you should be grateful
Fellow Kiwi here, it is super frustrating what this vile and buffoonish government is doing. Stay strong out there, we the clear and strong voices of our older generations like you standing with us all.
I get sick of people moaning about the waste from nuclear power. The waste from fossil fuels (CO2) is more difficult to deal with and is more dangerous in global terms.
Chris Packham is such an icon to me! I was picked on a lot as a kid for being "weird", something I've since learned was autism, and for actually giving a shit about the environment and trying to make a difference in my local community
Nuclear waste is an under used resource. It isn't toxic when handled correctly - there's never been an issue with nuclear waste. Water is benign until you drown in it. Disappointed that Chris is repeating unnuanced tropes. Any replies to this that is whataboutery will be ignored.
I can 100% see Chris Packham wearing a 'Climate Scum' t-shirt now. Am I the only one that was taken aback by Adrienne's cavernous apartment/ house? I'm so used to people streaming from a glorified cupboard/cramped bedroom with bad lighting it was a bit surreal.
I think a key to success is always buy-in and I was so relieved by Chris' messaging in this podcast (in contrast to the cheeky title of the video!) - emphasising the need to support people through the transition of renewable energies and, putting pressure on Taylor Swift, but by recognising the world-wide clout she has and the responsiveness of her fanbase. A great example of how to advocate for action points that will move us forward as a sustainable society.
35:42 such good analysis on this. But I wish people would get more angry about the way we are being taken to the cleaners on this. And that Labour wants that to continue!
@@WH-hi5ew for the energy generated by them to feed steadily into the national grid, the energy generated gets stored in lithium ion batteries to maintain a steady flow
Would Taylor swift flying on commercial flights not cause massive security and safety concerns at airports and on the flights themselves? Of all the people to have a private jet, it seems to make the most sense for the person who is likely to draw the largest crowds in entertainment.
But her many 5 minute flights are abhorrent. Despicable that her alone produces more than an entire town or most people over a lifetime in a single year.
@@serinadelmar6012 It didn't take me long to google what you're talking about. She's not flying in the plane for 5 minutes at a time, and she isn't the only person using it. The short flights are maintenance and transfer for the jet itself. You don't drive a plane between airports on roads. And the jet is loaned for use by other people, thereby increasing its emission numbers. It's a plane being a plane, and it's in regular use. That seems like the end of it to me. If we want to cut down on all plane use, sure. That sounds helpful. But making it a targeted issue with a single person and a single plane doesn't seem to do that point any justice. It just seems angry?
I'm not a SWIFTIE but because of jackasses always blaming Taylor while ignoring the many,many rich males who fly their private plsnes has made me one. I saw a chart posted of people who fly private jets,most of the names were male,and Taylor was way down at the bottom of the list,in other words they logged in more flying time than she did. Why don't they mention Bezos,DiCaprio,etc. Come on guys name them ALL!
@@rextitan “the short flights are maintenance.” 😆 May have taken you a few moments to Google, but it took seconds to realise that you know absolutely nothing about planes. There are countless examples. Another 13 minute flight she personally took to land at a destination 28 miles away had little to do with maintenance. It also does not distract from the fact you have conveniently ignored: Taylor Swift’s excessive and selfish use of a private jet makes her the biggest celebrity polluter of the past two years, dwarfing other celebrities’ use. In the first half of 2022 alone she took 170 flights on her private jet despite not even being on tour. That’s quite a lot of maintenance! < 8,300 metric tons of greenhouse gases, or 1,200 times more than the average person's annual emissions in the first half of 2022. She has emitted more CO2 this year than an average US american does within 550 years, and given that US citizens are the highest CO2 polluters per capita, compare that to a person from india and she has admitted more than the average Indian citizen would in over 4,300 years. That’s one single person’s private jet; the same single person you appear to be defending. Additionally, accepting payment for other people polluting with her private jet doesn’t exonerate her from polluting with her private jet, curiously enough.
For anyone reading this, imagine you're going on a long anticipated holiday and Taylor is also on your flight, the pandemonium that would ensue at airport check in, security, at the gate area, it would be hellish. And then she also has the security issue of the MAGA republicans. Wealthy elites who don't have serious security issues should not be flying private, but there absolutely are people who can only fly private due to the chaos it would cause otherwise.
Our planet cannot sustain that attitude. Sorry but private jets need to stay grounded. Climate change doesn't care how famous someone is or how disruptive their presence is.
@@andrewrushent2737 Not to mention the real security concerns she faces. Taylor is an easy target, older white men seem to really dislike her but I don't see anyone going after the Murdoch's or Elon or Bezos.
What happened to zoom - we bloody well had to work with that. Travelling the world by plane, private or otherwise is properly stupid. Just stop it. No one is that important. There’s 8 billion of us and none are exceptional enough to be a billion times better than another. Just stop it - stop flying.
It's crazy how people who call themselves environmentalists but continue to eat animal products, which cause more greenhouse gas emissions than all modes of transportation combined(!) harp on other people's transportation choices.
@@EdwardLindon I didn't say they were, but that is the least they can do. No one is shoving may down their throats either. It's a choice they are actively making when they could just as well choose something different. Didn't they get the memo about being the change they want to see in the world? If they want GHGs reduced, they should start with minimizing their own impact before lashing out at others.
Packham didn't do the necessary homework. Swift's people have said she buys double the amount of carbon credits needed to offset her jet use. So the discussion needs to be how to develop the planes that use other fuel and or batteries to accomplish the much needed goals. I just watched an Alex Honnold film and in the credits it said his team purchased carbon offsets so that the film was carbon neutral, does Packham have alternatives available or is this just blame someone for clickbait? This is an engineering issue not an attack a freakin pop star issue. You need Bezos money, Bill Gates money, Swift is small potatoes in comparison.
We should be more concerned about the government and military use of jets and fossil fuels than Taylor Swift's one or two private jet planes. And there's really only one solution to the climate crisis and pollution problem - population reduction. But that will happen on it's own in due time as ecosystems collapse, disease and famine spread, and extreme weather events impact more and more people.
Has Packham ever seen the crowds that swarm T Swift? Can he even imagine the chaos at the airport with her taking a commercial flight?The delays on the tarmac would be phenomenal and waste just as much fuel. At least she brings a boost to the economy to wherever she performs.
Better for her to take jets, than her fans to travel to see her. Honestly jets are such a distraction from important sources of pollution. It's like worrying about all our cannibals, instead of serial killer. Or trying to stop voter fraud with ID, rather than encouraging more people to vote. It's incredibly dumb to focus on aeroplanes when they are such a tiny fraction of our pollution. In any case, we're transitioning to electric aeroplanes already so we're on track with that. Anyone who falls for this, is, like Just Stop Oil, just an oil industry shill falling for their genuinely Mad Men level advertising campaign to promote the idea that personal carbon budgets are where the problem is. So we feel guilty about it, even though we're not going to make an impact by going through our life with a fine toothed comb removing as much carbon as we can because it's basically nothing. If the anti-jet people were arguing for an end to all sporting events, concerts and massive group gatherings such as political conferences, or climate change protests, or any kind of protest, I could almost respect that. But to pick one of those things and blame the jets is insane. After a concert in the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff they have to remove something like 150 tonnes of rubbish from the streets. The Bieber concerts were particularly bad because of course the people who listen to that drop a lot of litter and don't pick up after themselves, as they hate humanity.
Yeah, we definitely did not grow but the billionaire-class just grew and grew and replaced every hippie who gave up flying with a private jet. International capital carried on charging round the planet and wreaking havoc. No ones bothered to put checks and balances on it. Having a Goldman Sachs’s hedge-fund manager as PM has ensured capital can flow freely - hence his love of free ports.
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Chris Packham is a total legend, from The Really Wild Show right up to the present. The best thing about him is that, after he *actually* addresses *actual* reality, he points to the known solutions we have. Stuff like this, when spoken by politicians spouting complete nonsense, normally makes me vibrate with anger; Packham actually gives me a little hope, albeit a mostly forlorn hope
I find politicians talking now about fair transitions away from fossil fuel so frustrating. Not because we don't need to make transitions fair (we do), but because they've been saying this shit for decades and not doing it. Just nationalise the damn thing and transition already.
When I was 8 years old and Thatcher was stealing milk we already knew this. Its beyond frustrating that still nothing has been done.
With transphobia being what it is, none of the main parties will want to transition to anything.
The idea that WW3 will be fought between the Swifties and the Thunbergians is a movie I want to see.
has anyone under 25 even paid attenion to her since covid shes more of a name for the boomers to cry abt
#TeamGreta
Thank christ for chris packham
Ffs 2050 is too LATE!
I suspect they pick these target dates as they're the year the person doing the picking is likely to be dead. That way there's no chance of personal blowback when the target isn't met.
Nuclear waste wouldn't be so bad. If you had a society that can think long term. It's not like fissable materiels don't exist before they're used. We just concentrate them. So it's not fundamentally terrible, but the problem is that we are saddled with neoliberal ideology which will never think long term, and will always mismanage.
Now the other problem with nuclear power is' that it's another fossil fuel. it won't raise carbon, but it also won't last long term. If we shifted the majority of electricity generation to nuclear, we'd hit the peak in 30 or so years, and then we'd need to shift to renewables.
Unless we can use that nuclear investment to get fusion off the ground and in thirty years fusion will be just ten years away
@@shadebug As you imply, policy must be based on things we know exist.
If I misread you, then understand that investment in proven fission technologies do not actually bootstrap fusion power. They're entirely unrelated, though both worth funding. It would be cool if a get-out-of-jail-free card existed but.. well.. it probably doesn't. And we can't rely on it.
@@shadebugfolks have been saying fusion is potentially 10 years away as long as I can remember (since at least the '70s).
@@jsrodman absolutely but I dare say the people willing to invest in cleaner, more efficient fission will be the same ones people willing to invest in fusion
Not so about 30 year life span. There are other fissionable resources other than fresh uranium.
You forgot to mention Sunak's COP27 u-turn, after Boris confirmed he was attending. 😂
Spotlighting Swift on this issue is just idiotic. It's as ridiculous as MAGA freaking out about her dating Travis Kelce and possibly endorsing Biden.
Do better.
No it is not. You are wrong.
They could have made the spotlight Michael Platt, a multi billionaire and the fifth richest person in the UK. He probably has a lifestyle that releases much more carbon than the average British person.
But what's the point in using a person that absolutely no one has heard of to present an argument?
Most people are sophisticated enough to understand that it's not personal with Taylor Swift. She's just a well known figure being used to illustrate a wider point.
Yes, but not the right time Chris as we are desperately trying to hang onto democracy in the US and Taylor is a Democrat ally! Please hold off till after the election. If Trump wins say goodbye to all you hold dear!
Save the Great British UK!
What is he talking about "there is no issue with wind or solar". Both methods require storage, massive amounts of storage. Batteries are expensive and contain extremely toxic waste. They also require open pit mining to acquire the materials to make them. Nuclear waste can be recycled. They already do it in Japan. There is very little actual waste from a modern nuclear plant. They are also very safe. This is another situation where the solution is a both/and approach, not an either/or approach.
Chinese company CATL says it's found a way to use salt to make batteries. Unfortunately, they haven't shared that information, but once other countries figure it out we should be in a much better position. We do need to improve all power grids to best utilise wind, solar and wave energy.
Batteries aren't the only way to store energy. A very effective way is a hill or mountain, a lake and water turbines 🙂
@@markwelch3564 I agree, and those methods are used in the mountains where I live. But we are talking about Great Britain. They have pretty limited options.
@@jennkellie7341 but we already have pump storage hydro, and plenty more hills and mountains if more is needed!
@@markwelch3564 excellent! My main point though was to take all avenues. One option will not work everywhere and in every situation. We need to be willing to be flexible.
"Great British Energy" sounds like the name given to tea-flavoured Red Bull. #ClimateScum #AndProud
I hate it. Everything has to have great in it. Like this Great British Rail thing as well. Whats wrong with just British Rail. Once upon a time there may have actually been something great about Great Britain but it ain't no more and never will be. The worlds changed.
I do love the show but would love if you could talk to energy experts about energy not people who think renewables alone can provide continuous power 24/7/365. We can create sustainable energy sources in time but needs more nuanced discussion.
Thanks Chris for highlighting the need to transition away from animal agriculture. The solutions are available and the technology has been developed. The problem is that investors are sitting on their money and allowing viable companies to go bankrupt. The transition is being stalled for want of capital.
Must I now give up my as yet unrequited dream of owning my very own private jet?!?
Def not - electric planes (small ones) are already a thing 🙂👊
Unrealised. Unless it's a sentient private jet that wants to be owned by you? That could be hot.
You can own it and keep it in your backyard and use it as a planter!
I love this pod, but would love a two sided pod... I would like to see someone like Billionaire labour supporting John Cauldwell, Deborah Meadon, Multi millionaire inequality activist Gary Stevenson and Chris Packham in the room together.
In order for people to exercise their power you talk about, you need to give them a pathway to action. Without it we're doomed watching the end of the world home on our screens.
Chris Packham Party, I'll join up today, brilliant man.
Coco: "I know [billionaires] have power, but we have power too"
Me: sharpening the collective guillotine.
New Zealand right wing govt now removed tough farm emissions tough standards increase in mining sorry world Im 76 and I am so proud of the younger people our green party around 12% and 3rd largest party in nz plus Maori party @ 4 so some hope I would think that income the swifties have brought to your country you should be grateful
Fellow Kiwi here, it is super frustrating what this vile and buffoonish government is doing. Stay strong out there, we the clear and strong voices of our older generations like you standing with us all.
"Nish"-ion accomplished
Great programme, Im a regular listener. I even enjoy how the Pod save theme song plays back a phrase from The Beatles "Baby its you".
I get sick of people moaning about the waste from nuclear power. The waste from fossil fuels (CO2) is more difficult to deal with and is more dangerous in global terms.
Chris Packham is such an icon to me! I was picked on a lot as a kid for being "weird", something I've since learned was autism, and for actually giving a shit about the environment and trying to make a difference in my local community
Nuclear waste is an under used resource. It isn't toxic when handled correctly - there's never been an issue with nuclear waste. Water is benign until you drown in it. Disappointed that Chris is repeating unnuanced tropes. Any replies to this that is whataboutery will be ignored.
Shitting on nuclear exposes his ignorance. It's the way forward, alongside wind and solar.
I look forward to buying an “indy agitator” recycled cotton t-shirt soon.
He mentions Taylor for 2 minutes only (22:20 to 24:51). You’re welcome lol
Yours truly,
Aggressive TS fan
I can 100% see Chris Packham wearing a 'Climate Scum' t-shirt now. Am I the only one that was taken aback by Adrienne's cavernous apartment/ house? I'm so used to people streaming from a glorified cupboard/cramped bedroom with bad lighting it was a bit surreal.
I think a key to success is always buy-in and I was so relieved by Chris' messaging in this podcast (in contrast to the cheeky title of the video!) - emphasising the need to support people through the transition of renewable energies and, putting pressure on Taylor Swift, but by recognising the world-wide clout she has and the responsiveness of her fanbase. A great example of how to advocate for action points that will move us forward as a sustainable society.
Great show!!! Loved both of your guests. They are both so well informed and combine knowledge of details as well as the Big Picture. Thanks🤙
Green capitalism? No thank you!
Yeah … let’s stick with broken, monopolistic, death-cult-carbon capitalism.
35:42 such good analysis on this. But I wish people would get more angry about the way we are being taken to the cleaners on this.
And that Labour wants that to continue!
I think Adrienne Buller was excellent and Nancy Wheeler in Stranger Things
wind, water & sun need lithium batteries dont they??
do they ? I know cars do but why the other things?
@@WH-hi5ew for the energy generated by them to feed steadily into the national grid, the energy generated gets stored in lithium ion batteries to maintain a steady flow
She has a cool-looking apartment.
Would Taylor swift flying on commercial flights not cause massive security and safety concerns at airports and on the flights themselves? Of all the people to have a private jet, it seems to make the most sense for the person who is likely to draw the largest crowds in entertainment.
But her many 5 minute flights are abhorrent. Despicable that her alone produces more than an entire town or most people over a lifetime in a single year.
@@serinadelmar6012 It didn't take me long to google what you're talking about. She's not flying in the plane for 5 minutes at a time, and she isn't the only person using it.
The short flights are maintenance and transfer for the jet itself. You don't drive a plane between airports on roads.
And the jet is loaned for use by other people, thereby increasing its emission numbers.
It's a plane being a plane, and it's in regular use. That seems like the end of it to me.
If we want to cut down on all plane use, sure. That sounds helpful. But making it a targeted issue with a single person and a single plane doesn't seem to do that point any justice. It just seems angry?
I'm not a SWIFTIE but because of jackasses always blaming Taylor while ignoring the many,many rich males who fly their private plsnes has made me one. I saw a chart posted of people who fly private jets,most of the names were male,and Taylor was way down at the bottom of the list,in other words they logged in more flying time than she did. Why don't they mention Bezos,DiCaprio,etc. Come on guys name them ALL!
@@n.e.sullivan7427listen to her song the man 😊
@@rextitan “the short flights are maintenance.” 😆 May have taken you a few moments to Google, but it took seconds to realise that you know absolutely nothing about planes.
There are countless examples. Another 13 minute flight she personally took to land at a destination 28 miles away had little to do with maintenance.
It also does not distract from the fact you have conveniently ignored: Taylor Swift’s excessive and selfish use of a private jet makes her the biggest celebrity polluter of the past two years, dwarfing other celebrities’ use.
In the first half of 2022 alone she took 170 flights on her private jet despite not even being on tour. That’s quite a lot of maintenance!
< 8,300 metric tons of greenhouse gases, or 1,200 times more than the average person's annual emissions in the first half of 2022.
She has emitted more CO2 this year than an average US american does within 550 years, and given that US citizens are the highest CO2 polluters per capita, compare that to a person from india and she has admitted more than the average Indian citizen would in over 4,300 years. That’s one single person’s private jet; the same single person you appear to be defending.
Additionally, accepting payment for other people polluting with her private jet doesn’t exonerate her from polluting with her private jet, curiously enough.
Great episode guys!
I think it only got worse this year with her being able to go to almost every Chiefs game.
So, climate death is all Swift's fault.....sure.
Up pops an add for BP.
Getting Taylor Swift to give up her private--good luck with that.
For anyone reading this, imagine you're going on a long anticipated holiday and Taylor is also on your flight, the pandemonium that would ensue at airport check in, security, at the gate area, it would be hellish. And then she also has the security issue of the MAGA republicans. Wealthy elites who don't have serious security issues should not be flying private, but there absolutely are people who can only fly private due to the chaos it would cause otherwise.
Our planet cannot sustain that attitude. Sorry but private jets need to stay grounded. Climate change doesn't care how famous someone is or how disruptive their presence is.
@@andrewrushent2737 Not to mention the real security concerns she faces. Taylor is an easy target, older white men seem to really dislike her but I don't see anyone going after the Murdoch's or Elon or Bezos.
What happened to zoom - we bloody well had to work with that. Travelling the world by plane, private or otherwise is properly stupid. Just stop it. No one is that important. There’s 8 billion of us and none are exceptional enough to be a billion times better than another. Just stop it - stop flying.
It's crazy how people who call themselves environmentalists but continue to eat animal products, which cause more greenhouse gas emissions than all modes of transportation combined(!) harp on other people's transportation choices.
Animal ag is significantly worse when you factor in the opportunity costs of using so much land for farming which could be returned to nature.
It's not like they're eating ALL the animals, though is it?
@@EdwardLindon I didn't say they were, but that is the least they can do. No one is shoving may down their throats either. It's a choice they are actively making when they could just as well choose something different. Didn't they get the memo about being the change they want to see in the world? If they want GHGs reduced, they should start with minimizing their own impact before lashing out at others.
@@EdwardLindon 88 billion land animals a year. 2/3 of all the birds alive today are chickens in industrial factory farms.
Packham didn't do the necessary homework. Swift's people have said she buys double the amount of carbon credits needed to offset her jet use. So the discussion needs to be how to develop the planes that use other fuel and or batteries to accomplish the much needed goals. I just watched an Alex Honnold film and in the credits it said his team purchased carbon offsets so that the film was carbon neutral, does Packham have alternatives available or is this just blame someone for clickbait? This is an engineering issue not an attack a freakin pop star issue. You need Bezos money, Bill Gates money, Swift is small potatoes in comparison.
Carbon credits 🙄
We should be more concerned about the government and military use of jets and fossil fuels than Taylor Swift's one or two private jet planes. And there's really only one solution to the climate crisis and pollution problem - population reduction. But that will happen on it's own in due time as ecosystems collapse, disease and famine spread, and extreme weather events impact more and more people.
Has Packham ever seen the crowds that swarm T Swift? Can he even imagine the chaos at the airport with her taking a commercial flight?The delays on the tarmac would be phenomenal and waste just as much fuel. At least she brings a boost to the economy to wherever she performs.
Better for her to take jets, than her fans to travel to see her. Honestly jets are such a distraction from important sources of pollution. It's like worrying about all our cannibals, instead of serial killer. Or trying to stop voter fraud with ID, rather than encouraging more people to vote. It's incredibly dumb to focus on aeroplanes when they are such a tiny fraction of our pollution. In any case, we're transitioning to electric aeroplanes already so we're on track with that. Anyone who falls for this, is, like Just Stop Oil, just an oil industry shill falling for their genuinely Mad Men level advertising campaign to promote the idea that personal carbon budgets are where the problem is. So we feel guilty about it, even though we're not going to make an impact by going through our life with a fine toothed comb removing as much carbon as we can because it's basically nothing.
If the anti-jet people were arguing for an end to all sporting events, concerts and massive group gatherings such as political conferences, or climate change protests, or any kind of protest, I could almost respect that. But to pick one of those things and blame the jets is insane. After a concert in the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff they have to remove something like 150 tonnes of rubbish from the streets. The Bieber concerts were particularly bad because of course the people who listen to that drop a lot of litter and don't pick up after themselves, as they hate humanity.
Brexit helpt a lot, to reaching the goal.
Yeah, we definitely did not grow but the billionaire-class just grew and grew and replaced every hippie who gave up flying with a private jet. International capital carried on charging round the planet and wreaking havoc. No ones bothered to put checks and balances on it. Having a Goldman Sachs’s hedge-fund manager as PM has ensured capital can flow freely - hence his love of free ports.
What the fuck does Packham think he is?,a new Messiah. He's put me off worrying about the environment.
Fascinating rationalization for being an ostrich.
@@eastvandb😂 exactly.
Oh well, now you don’t have to worry about it then. And btw, he’s not the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy.
PSTW-UK, Reign this shite in, mates.