@dondoodat lol noooo he can't cheat his way out of it! He should get a big forfeit if he tries to get out of it that way, he will have to kick the Arch Bishop of Canterbury up the Arse.
It may be salutary to recall that the last time Rishi Sunak ran a campaign and publicly debated his policies and leadership qualities, he was beaten by Liz Truss.
To his credit, at least he was honest and told his members what he stood for... unlike starmer who lied to the members to get himself elected leader...
Liz is a journalist who’s researched the subject and I’m just a layperson who worked in council housing maintenance briefly but I don’t agree with her about council housing, maybe the cost is high but so are the advantages to society Liz sights NIMBYISM as the main problem. Imo the problem is equally if not more INEMBY’s which is ‘it’s not even my back yard’- because the number of unused, second homes, hollowing out our communities, along with abandoned or derelict homes and buildings, unused investment properties etc there are over a million properties. The MPs have 2nd homes, but-to-lets and own or rent in London funded by tax payers. Look at Devon, Cornwall, Somerset and other areas of natural beauty, so many holiday lets and unoccupied properties. Also Greens say they will build 150,000 council homes a year. Tories said they’d build more but never have and Labour plan to get private contractors to build them, which will just be more privatisation and profiteering from us. So I think the focus on NIMBYs and planning permission is a little strong when there are other factors at play which could be more immediate fixes- Like filling Britain’s empty homes.
@richard.3340 I appreciate NIMBYism and planning restrictions are real and contribute to lack of new housing being built. However, there are over 1 million empty homes, some of which could be filled next week. Councils need more funding to buy back unused homes, abandoned housing in disrepair at low rates through compulsory purchase orders. The law needs charging and those using property in this country for tax evasion and money laundering also need to have those homes reclaimed as the proceeds of crime. Theres a plethora of factors including all these and more which is why imo blaming NIMBYs as the main culprit just pushes the problem on, it doesn’t tackle it.
@richard.3340I don’t agree. Housing is a human right. I don’t agree that some people have legitimate ownership of properties as described. Building new, quality homes on brown fields sites isn’t as simple as not accepting objections from local residents. They need utilities, infrastructure, public services, public transport, solid uncontaminated land, planning, construction including fully trained construction workers. There are 3 homes within 1/2 mile of mine that are completely unoccupied & falling into disrepair. It would take 6 months at most to buy them up, fix them up, training apprentices throughout and use them for social housing. There was a scheme to encourage this 10 years ago, fronted by George Clarke and there are still campaigns to fill Britain’s empty homes. Seems you’d prefer to have derelict houses as a blight on local communities rather than let the NIMBYs keep their view of disused petrol stations and garages, warehouses, disused industrial estates- Because that’s what brownfield sites are. No one is suggesting concreting the countryside…yet!
@richard.3340 Also this legal action already exist. The CPS can recover property as the proceeds of crime. Compulsory purchase orders are already a legal tool used by some orgs and councils to acquire land and properly in order to support redevelopment.
@richard.3340 suggest that to the criminals then Richard. Then when the CPS try and seize their homes they can say “that’s not a legal problem, it’s my housing” and keep their unused properties to lay empty. No, obviously you ‘have no skin in the game’. Ofc I don’t agree with you isn’t some magic law changing sentence! It’s another way of saying, you’re wrong/ you don’t know what you’re talking about. But instead I humoured your reply bc I thought you actually wanted to have a chat about something you cared or knew about. Neither is the case. I have worked in housing and housing is one of my areas of interest. If you wanted to have a discussion about it with me, you needed to actually read my replies written to you and rather than skimming and wrongly making assumptions.
@richard.3340 not an attack Richard. But again I go back to- I don’t agree. If all the NIMBYS disappeared there still would not be any new housing built on brownfields for a good long while if ever. We have an unused resource of over 1 million homes sat empty right now. It’s not about being on my side Richard, I don’t care. But you’re wasting my time replying to my og comment about something you don’t know about, that’s not a game to me. Having worked in social housing I know how serious this is to people. I do know a bit more about it yet you’re still trying to instruct me how to phrase my points, to reread your comments I already read which is how I know you’re no expert. I’ve corrected you a couple of times about things you didn’t know. Let’s leave it there ey, you used enough of my time. Ta.
I imagine for most Americans the bigger surprise would be an election suddenly just six weeks away. Theirs is still more than five months away and feels like it's been going for 12 years already
That's the thing about parliaments. Over here in India our general election is being conducted in seven different phases over two months and the election was called like a month before that but it's still far less time than the nearly two years that candidates in the US spend on campaigning for their party's nomination and then the presidency.
i think if you're an American who cares enough to listen to British politics, you understand that part about the parliamentary system. I'm a New Yorker sitting here in Scotland at the moment, realizing the BRITISH Prime Minister could have called the election for ANY day until the end of the year and he decided to do the 4th of July??? He's not a stupid man, surely he understands the symbolism of that day? Is he accepting defeat? I know I shouldn't be surprised by now of the surreal times we live in, inside a political cartoonist's head, but it's still at least head scratching.
@@maddyrosenberg6802 It's extremely symbolic to Americans, but British people just think of it as an American public holiday. Besides, we won't get the results till the 5th 😊😊
It was a last-minute decision. Cameron got called back from his heroic overtures in Albania. There's a whiff of Tory back-stabbing to this decision: Sunak pulled the lever before the party could stick the knife in and chuck him out the clown car.
Quote of the episode: It's good to... smell you. You know. I just meant in a three dimensional way. It's better to touch you! Coco is the best! 😂❤ Oh no... I just got to the taste part... Can we show this section to Coco's parents? I have to know what they'd think! 🤣
I just want one moment from Starmer in this campaign,.. When the dreadful little drip talks about "having a (bold) plan", can Starmer please respond, "look, this is a man that couldn't even make a plan to bring an umbrella to a rain storm". Of course he will not do this because he's a milquetoast automaton too scared of his own shadow to say anything not focus-grouped to be as anodyne as possible
The truly joyous thing here is that if reform eat into the tories vote, neither will command a majority and therefore will not govern for the forseable future
Don't underestimate the stupidity of the average voter, they will give labour one , maybe two terms , not having any concept of just how truly fucked the country is,how long it will take to fix, and if Britain doesn't magically improve back to early 2000 levels they could lose patience and fall for whatever bullshit a new tory leader spouts and give them another go..
Because you know when yours are. Even with the Fixed Terms Parliament Act, we live in a political state of limbo, with only the Prime Minister knowing when the next election is going to be. It's deeply frustrating, and frankly should be changed - we're in the 21st Century for christ's sake.
Courtney, Get of your bum and get campaigning😊 Just find out who is most likely to beat the Tory MP in your area (in England almost certainly either Labour or LibDem, Green in 1 seat in E. Anglia, possibly PC or SNP if in Wales or Scotland), toddle down to their local office and volunteer-they'll be delighted to use your skills🙃
I would always, absolutely, without a doubt, vote for the Green party.... ...if it wasn't first-past-the-post. Because voting for what I believe in means minority rule.
That IS exactly what it was! 🥰 I always think of the U.S. War of Independence was the first major event that would bring to an end 200+ years of European conquest and colonization. From a British perspective, I think of it as "taking one for the team" because long-term, even the UK benefitted from American Liberty. Happy July 4th!
It would be great if the pod spoke to Nick Bano about housing and the housing crisis. Today's criticism, which feels like the most they've gone in on a guest so far (not something I'm against at all!), isn't backed by the research. People can't afford housing, there isn't a housing numbers crisis. Landlordism and no council housing is the centre of people having access to a human right, not not having more countryside properties.
Wet little drip Sunak was literally (not figuratively!) dripping wet as he announced that, with Tony Blair's old theme song playing in the background. If anyone had scripted that in a political drama the writer's room would think it was too over the top.
Happy we're finally getting a chance to get rid of them (despite the alternative not being that great), but annoyed because I was looking forward to the episode on the Cass Review, which I haven't seen enough about in left-wing podcasts. Hope we're still getting that episode. EDIT: glad to know it's still coming on Sunday!
The problem with the Green Party's electability isn't so much to do with any of their policies, it's primarily our electoral system that denies space to smaller parties. Until that's reformed we'll be having this conversation time and again.
Sunak did what all conservative does, thought for himself first. He knew full well is going to loose the election, so butt-funk he thought.. I not spending my summer in Number 10. I'll be voted out, I'm movin' out, and heading to the Maldives for my Holidays!
One Tory MP pointed out that we are effectively at war with Russia. We already have troops on the ground in a limited capacity. It just hasn't been officially announced. He said Sunak didn't want to be the one to lead us into the fight.
In south Gloucestershire there are loads of houses being built but the cheapest is £400 K. I ask myself who can buy such a house. The sales rep told me that they are selling fast. Every where I go, the houses being built are not popular.
Hats exist, rainwear exists, stylish billionaire rainwear exists, there is a clothing brand that has built its entire vibe around high end raincoats, good practical rainwear exists, Churchill practically made trench coats his branding. Walking out into the rain in an over tailored business suit is only what happens in the third act of a romance movie involving gormless British people. The lack of any contingency planning for rain at an outside venue in London reflects deeply on the attitude of the Conservatives to reality.
Holding his own umbrella would have made him look more ordinary, given opportunities for interesting parallels , a wry joke or two and demonstrated his ability to talk and hold a thing at the same time.
Keir Starmer is labelled as boring and has no charisma and that is seemingly why people dont like him but look what the opposite brought us (BJ) give me boring any day of the week
@chriselliott726 there's already some worrying signs. Labour are asserting they won't raise taxes (outside of the very specific and narrow private schools and non-doms, which aren't big-money changes). They want to invest. They won't borrow It all comes down to often repeated promises of growth, but to fix the country while not raising any more taxes, that growth is going to have to be unprecedented I have learned to be cautious around people who bet their entire plan on unlikely odds occurring. I see hard times and deep disappointments ahead 🙁
Even your garden variety influencer could have told them how to present the camera for such a big announcement. Shame they don't even have funds for that 😂
I've been volunteering at local greens for a few months, let's just say I now understand why the green party under performs. It's an absolute shame, the party has no money, and its organisation is a mess outside the target areas. If you want the greens to be successful, you NEED to volunteer and get involved. Very few do. I'm not a Labour fan, but they are the only ones who can beat the Conservative in my area. The green vote here is wasted. Sadly. 💚
I disagree that it's wasted. It won't elect an MP, but a growing Green vote share helps shift the national conversation We need to break the vicious circle of people not voting Green because Green can't win, and we only do that by voting so people see Green as a growing party that could be viable in the near future 🙂
@@GrowYourOwnLife that's fair - if my MP was someone like Braverman I'd be all over tactical voting! Here, it's a corporate Starmerite or a careerist Cameronite. Neither scares or thrills me so I'm voting Green I could be convinced to vote Labour tactically, if there's a comitment from tactical voting people to support the Greens in Green marginals. So far, I'm getting the opposite message from big names in the tactical voting movement though 🙁
I actually disagree. I don't think its nimbyism. Yes Council Housing is expensive, but not providing any means we increase our problems... including the rising costs of the houses around them. More houses isn't going to mend a broken system. We have plenty of houses, just too many landlords, price of land thats too high and mortgages that are impossible to get. I really hesitate to just cut red tape for a construction industry which has proven how much it DOES NOT CARE about safety!!
I’m sorry but nimbyism isn’t my experience in south east kent- LOADS of development into previously green spaces. Lots of lego towns built where there was woodland and green. And not an affordable house in sight. Just a load of second homes. This is a huge problem from my anecdotal perspective
Godsdamn Keir Starmer is the most boring, least visionary human being to ever stand in front of a microphone. In some ways it's sad that Labour will win the coming election. A lucky break and poor Tory decision making has rubbed an unfortunate shine on the value-free Blairist strand of UK Labour, which will impede progress for years to come.
From a northern perspective NIMBY's are frustrating. The north relies heavily on actual industry and building. Therefore more people living up here would be a massive positve. Although i'm not sure big house builders are the solution to housing issues. They're shit and causing issues with poor quality and expense. I'm hopefully buying my first house in the next couple of years and all the new builds are too big and too expensive to consider. I want a small 2 bed house. Theres only me and only ever will be potentially me and a partner in the future.
Vienna and Austria decided decades ago NOT to privatize water as it was too important. Thus we in Austria have the best and purest mountain spring water in all our cities snd towns (we even flush toilets with it!). But GREAT Britain is different!
Please please please for once can we do a UK-wide campaign where no one tactically votes?? Is that honestly so far fetched!? How can we expect a better result in a broken voting system if we vote in a broken way too.
Dear Coco and Nish, please also talk about the taking sides of the leaders of labor and conservatives about the Gaza crisis, it is a humanitarian crisis at the moment, please go deeper than the daily politic issues.
I think each party’s manifesto should be covered like a preseason look at a football team - look at what’s good and what’s weak within them and how well they will probably do
I've seen a lot of politicians in my time, but Rishi Sunak is one of the only ones I can think of that actually doesn't look like he believes what he's saying as he's saying it. What a grifter, lol
*sigh* man I love the greens. I get so used to hearing at least one thing said that makes me want to cry every time I hear a politician speak, the total absence of horrible dogwhistles is such a strange feeling it’s like a warm hug for my ears. I don’t think I’m ever going to give any political party the benefit of the doubt for any reason but the absence of open hostility from the greens has been a nice break from the rest of the political system, for however long it lasts
The historian in me feels I must make sure Nish is aware that July 4 is not the date that Britain lost a war. It's the date the second continental congress ratified the Declaration of Independence. The war does not end until Britain accepts the Treaty of Paris on 3 September 1783.
*IM AN AUTHOR* on the collapse of civilisations and I have very bad news for you - *THIS IS THE BEST ITS GOING TO GET FOR 15 YEARS* Labour might be that desperate they sign a load of PFI type things but that will only make things MUCH worse in the long term. To revive the UK Labour have to abolish private landlords over 10 years, do away with benefits introduce UBI, abolish business rates in favour of UK derived profits tax, nationalise all utilities and nationally important industries - REALLY RADICAL STUFF ---> Oh and make foreign ownership of media illegal THEY WONT
@@chriselliott726I would do it through regulation first, especially for water Hold them accountable to reasonable standards and see if they stick around If they do, privatisation gets to continue, but my guess is they'll fold and cut their losses. Either way we get the water infrastructure we deserve
@@markwelch3564 @markwelch3564 So you don't really have a plan then, just a very long term notion to regulate companies out of existence. Not really very radical at all.
@chriselliott726 I don't want to regulate them out of existence, but do want to regulate them tightly enough to prevent the vast wealth extraction we're currently seeing I suspect the current owners would quit rather than tackle the difficult challenges of fixing their own mess, but I won't be an ideological purist and insist on nationalisation. Results are more important than ideological point scoring 🙂
Nish name dropping my shitty hometown of Orpington 😂 My nan would die before voting labour, even though she agrees that the tories have been an absolute disaster
Fourth of July for Americans celebrates the ratification of our Declaration of Independence, with the only notable British military defeat of the era on that day being at Kaskaskia (Illinois) in 1778. Still, we love you, Nish.
On the bicentennial, a group of American and British work colleagues had a BBQ on 4th July. The Americans were a bit perplexed by the sight of Brits celebrating, until one explained it was in memory of the day we (British) got rid of a bunch of rebellious colonials...
YEAH they were a total pain in the a$$ - constantly stealing land and breaking treaties, we had to go fight their battles for them. Saved us a FORTUNE when they got independence. Lets remember - they were NOT paying taxes...!!!
My problem with looking after the environment is the environment is global, we are only a very small portion of the world (101st in terms of pollution in the world). Even if we went 100% green tomorrow it wont matter as its countries like China are not gonna stop and its even worse in places like the UAE, Egypt and Tunisia. We can stop them polluting and thus why we shouldn't invest so damn much. HOWEVER that being said I feel all low income housing and people on benefits should get free solar panels. This would lower our pollution and need for power from places like Russia and help those with less money to earn bit more and get themselves on their feet. It would help with poverty too saving ppl around £150-£200 a month.
Cambridge scientists have just invented a way to produce very low emission concrete using steel arc furnaces. Look up "Cambridge Electric Cement". The point is not what the UK can accomplish all by itself, but how it can lead the way.
american's think about the american war of independence (ungrateful rebellion!) about a million times more than british people. Even at the time the British didn't really think it was a big deal, e.g the financial value of the carribean colonies at the time was 4 x that of the 13 colonies. Both were a drop in the ocean compared to India, which the British were terrified the Russians would try to take from them (if they had the British couldn't really defend it).
Actually the revolutionary war started a year prior to the declaration of independence. It really was just a formal declaration of what they were fighting for.
To be fairer, July 4th is the day when Americans celebrate their independence from British colonial rule. That's the symbolism. None of the other details matter.
It's occurred to me that Rishi Sunak now owes Piers Morgan money because the Rwanda flights won't take off before the election.
He can afford it.
@dondoodat lol noooo he can't cheat his way out of it! He should get a big forfeit if he tries to get out of it that way, he will have to kick the Arch Bishop of Canterbury up the Arse.
It really is insane that Rishi managed to make it so that Piers Morgan isn't automatically the worst human being in any conversation.
@dondoodat "volunteered" for £3000...
It may be salutary to recall that the last time Rishi Sunak ran a campaign and publicly debated his policies and leadership qualities, he was beaten by Liz Truss.
To his credit, at least he was honest and told his members what he stood for... unlike starmer who lied to the members to get himself elected leader...
@@KapnScumdregdid he? What was that?
Liz is a journalist who’s researched the subject and I’m just a layperson who worked in council housing maintenance briefly but I don’t agree with her about council housing, maybe the cost is high but so are the advantages to society Liz sights NIMBYISM as the main problem.
Imo the problem is equally if not more INEMBY’s which is ‘it’s not even my back yard’- because the number of unused, second homes, hollowing out our communities, along with abandoned or derelict homes and buildings, unused investment properties etc there are over a million properties.
The MPs have 2nd homes, but-to-lets and own or rent in London funded by tax payers.
Look at Devon, Cornwall, Somerset and other areas of natural beauty, so many holiday lets and unoccupied properties.
Also Greens say they will build 150,000 council homes a year. Tories said they’d build more but never have and Labour plan to get private contractors to build them, which will just be more privatisation and profiteering from us.
So I think the focus on NIMBYs and planning permission is a little strong when there are other factors at play which could be more immediate fixes- Like filling Britain’s empty homes.
@richard.3340 I appreciate NIMBYism and planning restrictions are real and contribute to lack of new housing being built.
However, there are over 1 million empty homes, some of which could be filled next week.
Councils need more funding to buy back unused homes, abandoned housing in disrepair at low rates through compulsory purchase orders.
The law needs charging and those using property in this country for tax evasion and money laundering also need to have those homes reclaimed as the proceeds of crime.
Theres a plethora of factors including all these and more which is why imo blaming NIMBYs as the main culprit just pushes the problem on, it doesn’t tackle it.
@richard.3340I don’t agree. Housing is a human right.
I don’t agree that some people have legitimate ownership of properties as described.
Building new, quality homes on brown fields sites isn’t as simple as not accepting objections from local residents.
They need utilities, infrastructure, public services, public transport, solid uncontaminated land, planning, construction including fully trained construction workers.
There are 3 homes within 1/2 mile of mine that are completely unoccupied & falling into disrepair.
It would take 6 months at most to buy them up, fix them up, training apprentices throughout and use them for social housing.
There was a scheme to encourage this 10 years ago, fronted by George Clarke and there are still campaigns to fill Britain’s empty homes.
Seems you’d prefer to have derelict houses as a blight on local communities rather than let the NIMBYs keep their view of disused petrol stations and garages, warehouses, disused industrial estates- Because that’s what brownfield sites are.
No one is suggesting concreting the countryside…yet!
@richard.3340 Also this legal action already exist.
The CPS can recover property as the proceeds of crime.
Compulsory purchase orders are already a legal tool used by some orgs and councils to acquire land and properly in order to support redevelopment.
@richard.3340 suggest that to the criminals then Richard. Then when the CPS try and seize their homes they can say “that’s not a legal problem, it’s my housing” and keep their unused properties to lay empty.
No, obviously you ‘have no skin in the game’.
Ofc I don’t agree with you isn’t some magic law changing sentence! It’s another way of saying, you’re wrong/ you don’t know what you’re talking about.
But instead I humoured your reply bc I thought you actually wanted to have a chat about something you cared or knew about. Neither is the case.
I have worked in housing and housing is one of my areas of interest.
If you wanted to have a discussion about it with me, you needed to actually read my replies written to you and rather than skimming and wrongly making assumptions.
@richard.3340 not an attack Richard. But again I go back to- I don’t agree.
If all the NIMBYS disappeared there still would not be any new housing built on brownfields for a good long while if ever.
We have an unused resource of over 1 million homes sat empty right now.
It’s not about being on my side Richard, I don’t care. But you’re wasting my time replying to my og comment about something you don’t know about, that’s not a game to me. Having worked in social housing I know how serious this is to people.
I do know a bit more about it yet you’re still trying to instruct me how to phrase my points, to reread your comments I already read which is how I know you’re no expert.
I’ve corrected you a couple of times about things you didn’t know. Let’s leave it there ey, you used enough of my time. Ta.
Hopefully, both sides of the Atlantic will celebrate their independence on that day.
Just registered to vote as an overseas British Citizens, every vote counts to kick these tories out.
Same here - gone to extreme lengths to make sure I can vote, sent the documents by courier, got a Voter ID just incase.
Best of luck to you guys.
"Record money into the NHS" by which he means "Record money into the NHS which they are mandated to spend on private health care Provision".
Drives me mad that rising inflation is something that's not their fault but falling inflation is all thanks to them
I imagine for most Americans the bigger surprise would be an election suddenly just six weeks away. Theirs is still more than five months away and feels like it's been going for 12 years already
That's the thing about parliaments. Over here in India our general election is being conducted in seven different phases over two months and the election was called like a month before that but it's still far less time than the nearly two years that candidates in the US spend on campaigning for their party's nomination and then the presidency.
i think if you're an American who cares enough to listen to British politics, you understand that part about the parliamentary system. I'm a New Yorker sitting here in Scotland at the moment, realizing the BRITISH Prime Minister could have called the election for ANY day until the end of the year and he decided to do the 4th of July??? He's not a stupid man, surely he understands the symbolism of that day? Is he accepting defeat? I know I shouldn't be surprised by now of the surreal times we live in, inside a political cartoonist's head, but it's still at least head scratching.
@@maddyrosenberg6802 It's extremely symbolic to Americans, but British people just think of it as an American public holiday.
Besides, we won't get the results till the 5th 😊😊
Nah it’s just the first Thursday in July. The election is always on Thursday. It’s just coincidence. The day has no special meaning to British people.
@@sebastiang7394that said, snarks may interpret it as Rishi signalling where he intends to live after the election 😝
Rishi should have worn one of those Bettlejuice umbrella hats, it would have added a degree of dignity to his announcement!
😂
Silver lining? At least his hair dye didn't run down his face 🧑🏾
Right! I mean how did his suit look so wet and yet the hair seemed just unchanged like a plastic cap
Would have loved a Rudy hair dye drip for Rishi
It was a last-minute decision. Cameron got called back from his heroic overtures in Albania. There's a whiff of Tory back-stabbing to this decision: Sunak pulled the lever before the party could stick the knife in and chuck him out the clown car.
That clip of Sunak in the rain makes me laugh every time.
Quote of the episode:
It's good to... smell you. You know.
I just meant in a three dimensional way.
It's better to touch you!
Coco is the best! 😂❤
Oh no... I just got to the taste part... Can we show this section to Coco's parents? I have to know what they'd think! 🤣
I just want one moment from Starmer in this campaign,.. When the dreadful little drip talks about "having a (bold) plan", can Starmer please respond, "look, this is a man that couldn't even make a plan to bring an umbrella to a rain storm". Of course he will not do this because he's a milquetoast automaton too scared of his own shadow to say anything not focus-grouped to be as anodyne as possible
The truly joyous thing here is that if reform eat into the tories vote, neither will command a majority and therefore will not govern for the forseable future
Don't underestimate the stupidity of the average voter, they will give labour one , maybe two terms , not having any concept of just how truly fucked the country is,how long it will take to fix, and if Britain doesn't magically improve back to early 2000 levels they could lose patience and fall for whatever bullshit a new tory leader spouts and give them another go..
As an American, I also think it's hilarious that he picked the 4th.
Sunak is fixated on getting his green card.
@@robertgerrity878 he's probably more than happy just living off his father-in-law's money.
It has to be on a Thursday
I think that Paula Vennells would have led the news
idk if "clear plan" and "bold action" and "conservative government" all fit together in a sentence.
And yet, you pulled it off!
SIX WEEKS??!??!!?? you’re so lucky. Ours are never ending
Because you know when yours are. Even with the Fixed Terms Parliament Act, we live in a political state of limbo, with only the Prime Minister knowing when the next election is going to be. It's deeply frustrating, and frankly should be changed - we're in the 21st Century for christ's sake.
6 weeks is long for us, usually a month.
I have always thought Liz was the coolest...Withnail & I reference? What a piece of work is this Liz? Absolutely the best.
0:49 i dont know why but my lizard brain keeps putting cry me a river under this and i cant stop giggling
He’ll be here in California just in time for wildfire season!
Don't give me hope!🤣🤣🤣
The tories are ahead by 800 votes in my area it’s so depressing
That’s not much! There’s time for conversations.
Unless you're speaking to us from a tiny village 6 weeks in the future, I think you might be alright.
Are those 2019 figures?
Because that's tiny.
We've been seeing majorities of 20k flipped.
Courtney,
Get of your bum and get campaigning😊
Just find out who is most likely to beat the Tory MP in your area (in England almost certainly either Labour or LibDem, Green in 1 seat in E. Anglia, possibly PC or SNP if in Wales or Scotland), toddle down to their local office and volunteer-they'll be delighted to use your skills🙃
I’ve been waiting for pod save the UK all day!
The news Asians take on the Soggy Primed Miniature 👀 calling a general election.
I just finished priming a bunch of miniatures just now lol
The News Asians lol 😆
He was probably thinking he would have been rinsed for the umbrella...he just made it worse. Just such poor judgement all round
In today's podcast, Coco smellcomes Liz Bates to the studio..
I would always, absolutely, without a doubt, vote for the Green party....
...if it wasn't first-past-the-post.
Because voting for what I believe in means minority rule.
'It's in the eyes, isn't it?!?' had me gagging with laughter.
Maybe you could look at July 4 as the beginning of Decolonialisation? That's a bit auspicious. Even if it took 200 years to complete.
They still have Northern Ireland and Cymru (Wales)...so we're not done decolonizing quite yet but yeah agreed.
That IS exactly what it was! 🥰 I always think of the U.S. War of Independence was the first major event that would bring to an end 200+ years of European conquest and colonization.
From a British perspective, I think of it as "taking one for the team" because long-term, even the UK benefitted from American Liberty. Happy July 4th!
It would be great if the pod spoke to Nick Bano about housing and the housing crisis. Today's criticism, which feels like the most they've gone in on a guest so far (not something I'm against at all!), isn't backed by the research. People can't afford housing, there isn't a housing numbers crisis. Landlordism and no council housing is the centre of people having access to a human right, not not having more countryside properties.
Wet little drip Sunak was literally (not figuratively!) dripping wet as he announced that, with Tony Blair's old theme song playing in the background. If anyone had scripted that in a political drama the writer's room would think it was too over the top.
Having an "umbrella guy" is very Diddy coded, not really a vote winner in current circumstances
Happy we're finally getting a chance to get rid of them (despite the alternative not being that great), but annoyed because I was looking forward to the episode on the Cass Review, which I haven't seen enough about in left-wing podcasts. Hope we're still getting that episode.
EDIT: glad to know it's still coming on Sunday!
I want to know which companies the idiots(mp’s)will be dirctoringfor one day a yearforthousandsof pennies?
Where does this "Sunak the tech wizz" thing come from? The guy lost his pandemic messages because he didn't know how to back them up.
The problem with the Green Party's electability isn't so much to do with any of their policies, it's primarily our electoral system that denies space to smaller parties. Until that's reformed we'll be having this conversation time and again.
Count Binface interview when?
FPTP (first past the post) has to go in the bin. I'd be pushing Labour to commit to a referendum (if necessary) on it.
I think in the long run I'd prefer PR, but on the other hand that would likely mean reform being part of government.
@@oitoitoi1Reform loyalists are already in government - they just stood as Conservatives to get elected
could coco please recommend those funky weather apps, cos sadly i still am on bbc weather
Apple bought the Dark Skies weather app (now the inbuilt iPhone weather app) which gives "hyper-local" detailed forecasts.
YR is brilliant.
Sunak did what all conservative does, thought for himself first. He knew full well is going to loose the election, so butt-funk he thought.. I not spending my summer in Number 10. I'll be voted out, I'm movin' out, and heading to the Maldives for my Holidays!
I’ll be voting green. We really need council house targets not just general expensive housing and the environmental and nhs policies are great!
One Tory MP pointed out that we are effectively at war with Russia. We already have troops on the ground in a limited capacity. It just hasn't been officially announced. He said Sunak didn't want to be the one to lead us into the fight.
Bridgen the buffoon. Hasn't the whip been withdrawn?
In south Gloucestershire there are loads of houses being built but the cheapest is £400 K. I ask myself who can buy such a house. The sales rep told me that they are selling fast. Every where I go, the houses being built are not popular.
Hats exist, rainwear exists, stylish billionaire rainwear exists, there is a clothing brand that has built its entire vibe around high end raincoats, good practical rainwear exists, Churchill practically made trench coats his branding. Walking out into the rain in an over tailored business suit is only what happens in the third act of a romance movie involving gormless British people.
The lack of any contingency planning for rain at an outside venue in London reflects deeply on the attitude of the Conservatives to reality.
Holding his own umbrella would have made him look more ordinary, given opportunities for interesting parallels , a wry joke or two and demonstrated his ability to talk and hold a thing at the same time.
The UK reclaiming 4th of July from the US.
Go Greens!
Keir Starmer is labelled as boring and has no charisma and that is seemingly why people dont like him but look what the opposite brought us (BJ) give me boring any day of the week
Unfortunately voters think politics is another reality show.
Correct. I am a fan of competency.
@@chriselliott726but is he competent, or is he good at doing a performance that superficially projects it?
@@markwelch3564 Well Mark, you are going to find out.
@chriselliott726 there's already some worrying signs. Labour are asserting they won't raise taxes (outside of the very specific and narrow private schools and non-doms, which aren't big-money changes). They want to invest. They won't borrow
It all comes down to often repeated promises of growth, but to fix the country while not raising any more taxes, that growth is going to have to be unprecedented
I have learned to be cautious around people who bet their entire plan on unlikely odds occurring. I see hard times and deep disappointments ahead 🙁
Even your garden variety influencer could have told them how to present the camera for such a big announcement. Shame they don't even have funds for that 😂
How did some flunkies fail to find a couple of brollies though? Failing right to the end.
Or...they could have used the shiny new media centre they just spent a few million building recently😂
There's apps that tell you how many minutes it rains for?? I'm feeling called out, sitting over here using the Met app 😅
I've been volunteering at local greens for a few months, let's just say I now understand why the green party under performs.
It's an absolute shame, the party has no money, and its organisation is a mess outside the target areas.
If you want the greens to be successful, you NEED to volunteer and get involved. Very few do.
I'm not a Labour fan, but they are the only ones who can beat the Conservative in my area. The green vote here is wasted. Sadly. 💚
I disagree that it's wasted. It won't elect an MP, but a growing Green vote share helps shift the national conversation
We need to break the vicious circle of people not voting Green because Green can't win, and we only do that by voting so people see Green as a growing party that could be viable in the near future 🙂
@@markwelch3564 I live in an area where voting green WILL gaurentee a far-right Tories gets in
@@GrowYourOwnLife that's fair - if my MP was someone like Braverman I'd be all over tactical voting!
Here, it's a corporate Starmerite or a careerist Cameronite. Neither scares or thrills me so I'm voting Green
I could be convinced to vote Labour tactically, if there's a comitment from tactical voting people to support the Greens in Green marginals. So far, I'm getting the opposite message from big names in the tactical voting movement though 🙁
I actually disagree. I don't think its nimbyism. Yes Council Housing is expensive, but not providing any means we increase our problems... including the rising costs of the houses around them.
More houses isn't going to mend a broken system. We have plenty of houses, just too many landlords, price of land thats too high and mortgages that are impossible to get.
I really hesitate to just cut red tape for a construction industry which has proven how much it DOES NOT CARE about safety!!
I’m sorry but nimbyism isn’t my experience in south east kent- LOADS of development into previously green spaces. Lots of lego towns built where there was woodland and green. And not an affordable house in sight. Just a load of second homes. This is a huge problem from my anecdotal perspective
soon as I heard the GE was July 4th I thought of the quote from the movie Independence day " were going to live on, were going to survive....."
Godsdamn Keir Starmer is the most boring, least visionary human being to ever stand in front of a microphone. In some ways it's sad that Labour will win the coming election. A lucky break and poor Tory decision making has rubbed an unfortunate shine on the value-free Blairist strand of UK Labour, which will impede progress for years to come.
From a northern perspective NIMBY's are frustrating. The north relies heavily on actual industry and building. Therefore more people living up here would be a massive positve.
Although i'm not sure big house builders are the solution to housing issues. They're shit and causing issues with poor quality and expense.
I'm hopefully buying my first house in the next couple of years and all the new builds are too big and too expensive to consider. I want a small 2 bed house. Theres only me and only ever will be potentially me and a partner in the future.
BINDEPENENCE DAY!! (Much luck with that. From: Colony 12 ✌️😋)
Vienna and Austria decided decades ago NOT to privatize water as it was too important. Thus we in Austria have the best and purest mountain spring water in all our cities snd towns (we even flush toilets with it!). But GREAT Britain is different!
Well obviously Kier Starmer. If you don't know that by now then you're probably not worth listening to you.
Please please please for once can we do a UK-wide campaign where no one tactically votes?? Is that honestly so far fetched!? How can we expect a better result in a broken voting system if we vote in a broken way too.
I feel mostly obliged leave a comment about the anouñcement for holding a general election on 4,the July by the PM.
How about one of those white marquee things, cover without slaves holding a brolly.
What a laughable level of scrutiny giving to the greens housing plan compared to labours lack of any reasonable policy at this point.
Dear Coco and Nish, please also talk about the taking sides of the leaders of labor and conservatives about the Gaza crisis, it is a humanitarian crisis at the moment, please go deeper than the daily politic issues.
I think each party’s manifesto should be covered like a preseason look at a football team - look at what’s good and what’s weak within them and how well they will probably do
I've seen a lot of politicians in my time, but Rishi Sunak is one of the only ones I can think of that actually doesn't look like he believes what he's saying as he's saying it. What a grifter, lol
*sigh* man I love the greens. I get so used to hearing at least one thing said that makes me want to cry every time I hear a politician speak, the total absence of horrible dogwhistles is such a strange feeling it’s like a warm hug for my ears. I don’t think I’m ever going to give any political party the benefit of the doubt for any reason but the absence of open hostility from the greens has been a nice break from the rest of the political system, for however long it lasts
At least 🇬🇧 doesn’t have endless election seasons. Only 6 wks would be heaven.
The historian in me feels I must make sure Nish is aware that July 4 is not the date that Britain lost a war. It's the date the second continental congress ratified the Declaration of Independence. The war does not end until Britain accepts the Treaty of Paris on 3 September 1783.
I feel like the thumbnail is lying by implying Rishi Sunak has a soul to leave his body in the first place.
Who cares if he had a bad day he already caught a break by inheriting shit loads of money...
Also the optics of Rishi’s announcement was awful
*IM AN AUTHOR* on the collapse of civilisations and I have very bad news for you - *THIS IS THE BEST ITS GOING TO GET FOR 15 YEARS*
Labour might be that desperate they sign a load of PFI type things but that will only make things MUCH worse in the long term. To revive the UK Labour have to abolish private landlords over 10 years, do away with benefits introduce UBI, abolish business rates in favour of UK derived profits tax, nationalise all utilities and nationally important industries - REALLY RADICAL STUFF --->
Oh and make foreign ownership of media illegal
THEY WONT
Could you explain exactly how they could nationalise all utilities and 'important industries'?
@@chriselliott726I would do it through regulation first, especially for water
Hold them accountable to reasonable standards and see if they stick around
If they do, privatisation gets to continue, but my guess is they'll fold and cut their losses. Either way we get the water infrastructure we deserve
@@markwelch3564 @markwelch3564 So you don't really have a plan then, just a very long term notion to regulate companies out of existence. Not really very radical at all.
@chriselliott726 I don't want to regulate them out of existence, but do want to regulate them tightly enough to prevent the vast wealth extraction we're currently seeing
I suspect the current owners would quit rather than tackle the difficult challenges of fixing their own mess, but I won't be an ideological purist and insist on nationalisation. Results are more important than ideological point scoring 🙂
Finally!! national election is announced 😊🎉🎉🎉
More like Drippy Monsoonak, amirite?
As an American…y’all good?
He was only so wet because he threw in the towel
Not enough sense to come in out of the rain.
Rishi made over 100 million pounds last year and yet we still feel sorry for him...
I don't!
So what kind of chaotic and vile abuses of power will Sunak pull during this prorogeification?
What the actual F is that man doing in the rain. Also, American here, July 4th? Really?
Nice to smell you? also know in Simpsons land as "SMELL YA LATER!" LOL
Nish name dropping my shitty hometown of Orpington 😂
My nan would die before voting labour, even though she agrees that the tories have been an absolute disaster
Sunak reprising Boombox in the Rain.
Cant we have the mash report back please?
I think you need to ask the BBC.
Yes. Next question. But then you'll have Starmer. Not any better.
Best trot off with Owen Jones.
Rapists don't deserve the Internet
Fourth of July for Americans celebrates the ratification of our Declaration of Independence, with the only notable British military defeat of the era on that day being at Kaskaskia (Illinois) in 1778. Still, we love you, Nish.
And most Am3ric4ns think it was singed on the 4th of July - which it wasnt.
On the bicentennial, a group of American and British work colleagues had a BBQ on 4th July. The Americans were a bit perplexed by the sight of Brits celebrating, until one explained it was in memory of the day we (British) got rid of a bunch of rebellious colonials...
YEAH they were a total pain in the a$$ - constantly stealing land and breaking treaties, we had to go fight their battles for them. Saved us a FORTUNE when they got independence.
Lets remember - they were NOT paying taxes...!!!
My problem with looking after the environment is the environment is global, we are only a very small portion of the world (101st in terms of pollution in the world). Even if we went 100% green tomorrow it wont matter as its countries like China are not gonna stop and its even worse in places like the UAE, Egypt and Tunisia. We can stop them polluting and thus why we shouldn't invest so damn much. HOWEVER that being said I feel all low income housing and people on benefits should get free solar panels. This would lower our pollution and need for power from places like Russia and help those with less money to earn bit more and get themselves on their feet. It would help with poverty too saving ppl around £150-£200 a month.
Cambridge scientists have just invented a way to produce very low emission concrete using steel arc furnaces. Look up "Cambridge Electric Cement". The point is not what the UK can accomplish all by itself, but how it can lead the way.
We declared our independence it took 2 years to win the war
Rishi Sunak looked already defeated. And as an American from the states, the irony of the UK election being on the fourth of July is hilarious.
american's think about the american war of independence (ungrateful rebellion!) about a million times more than british people. Even at the time the British didn't really think it was a big deal, e.g the financial value of the carribean colonies at the time was 4 x that of the 13 colonies. Both were a drop in the ocean compared to India, which the British were terrified the Russians would try to take from them (if they had the British couldn't really defend it).
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Kkmo is
To be fair, they didn’t win the war on July 4. They declared independence on July 4. There’s a quite famous document that kicked the whole thing off.
Actually the revolutionary war started a year prior to the declaration of independence. It really was just a formal declaration of what they were fighting for.
To be fairer, July 4th is the day when Americans celebrate their independence from British colonial rule. That's the symbolism. None of the other details matter.
Yep - as a U.S. citizen, I was quite surprised by the chosen date. 😲
Getting someone from the Greens on is very generous when talking about a General Election. A nice break from the serious conversation.
Greens are just tories on bikes.
🙄 Hardly