Fanatec Gran Turismo DD Pro and F-GT Lite PS5 Full Review - Insane Setup
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Fanatec GT DD Pro and Next Level Racing F-GT Lite Unboxing and setup for Gran Turismo 7
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PART 1 of 2 Videos.
Fully compatible with PS5, XBOX & PC, there is a button to switch modes, however, this bundle is specifically for the PS5.
Update the DD Pro driver, by first connecting to your computer using the provided USB cable, download the driver from the Fanatec support website, fanatec.com/eu....
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Part Two: • Fanatec DD Pro F-GT Li...
Goes deeper into the actual screws I used and how I attached the Pedals & WheelBase
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Attaching DD Pro Pedals to F-GT Lite Chair Base:
Unfortunately, both Fanatec & Next Level Racing DON'T provide the ideal screws for you to fully install the pedals.
For the back two, I used: Screws and nuts included with the chair.
For the front two: C2 cylinder spacers were provided, however, I had to use my own separate long screws. They need to be at least 30mm in length and screw width 5mm
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Fanatec GT DD Pro and shipping from Germany £505.07 (www.fanatec.com)
Custom charge via UPS Courier to UK £114.63
Next Level Racing F-GT Lite Racing Chair £239 (amazon.co.uk)
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I have the same setup as you, and I can recommend some upgrades that I picked that have made the most significant difference. First, the CSL Pedals Load Cell Kit is a must-do, in my opinion, as the upgrade of a load cell pedal is a game-changer, and you get to repurpose your existing brake as a clutch. The second one is the QR1 Wheel-Side ClubSport Quick Release Adapter. This adapter upgrades the adapter that connects your wheel to the base from a piece of plastic to a full aluminum body and ball lock mechanism combined with a torque notch. This adapter eliminates the creeks and clicks you get from the plastic adapter.
Thanks for those tips mate, few people have mentioned the load cell but not the adaptor, will take a look. Enjoy the racing 👍🏽👍🏽
Just pre-ordered my Fanatec! Went with the 8nm version. Going to buy the seat too. I'm a seasoned bloke, such as yourself, so comfort is required. 😆
Same here and I'm so inpatient now lol
@@kweesaboiigaming3997 I just got a notification that their packaging up my order for shipment. Sounds like good news to me.
Hey, mind giving me an update on how the setup is working for you? Planning to get the same cockpit with the 8Nm DD Pro but I'm hesitant on wether the cockpit can take de torque of the wheelbase and make it wobbly
You did
Great vid mate. When connecting the frame for the peddles I found that if you undo the saddle type clamps "almost" all the way they clip onto the seat frame base very easily. Also make sure the clamps are moved apart as far as possible prior to tightening as this will aid in giving better stability/rigidity when using the peddles.
Thanks for the tips mate
Glad to see the F-Gt lite handle the DDPro 🎉 hope i get mine this week 🤞🏼👍🏼
I just bought this same exact setup except also with the shifter and load cell pedal. Cant wait for it all to be delivered
Nice 👍🏽
Thank you for the review and insight.
Just ordered this setup with the McLaren 8Nm and Elite V2 Pedals. I splurged on a buttkicker Pro. Definitely plan to use the straps to add rigidity.
Glad I could have helped, your setup will look insane, enjoy !!
hey thanks for this video. I bought a fgt lite and was worried you could not mount a direct drive wheel, but i also read that comment on reddit where you need to flip the mounting plate 180 degrees in order to mount correctly.
Will try this out!
Yes, that will work a treat, I also have another video that explains it further
Wobble in your stand creates a dampening effect to where you don't feel the force feedback as you should. One thing that will increase your skill and overall enjoyability is to reinforce what you have with extra support or just buy something a LOT more sturdy.
Thanks for the tip 👍🏽
I used a ratchet tie down anchored at wheel base one end, and bottom frame the other end.
ZERO movement. Same setup as yours.
@@supercededman Great idea, I've just ordered some online, cheers mate
@@supercededman can i get a photo of how you routed the ratchet straps?
@@dustinabc8 will try and get a pic. At moment I don't bother with a ratchet. Simply using the long strap that came with packing, connected to top horizontal bar - where wheel is mounted - down to bottom horizontal bar (chair bottom frame) - works really well. Tension it REALLY tightly!
It looks more stable than my expectations~. Good to know. Thank you for your vid :)
You're welcome!
I had this setup too but moved on to a Playseat Trophy. I could never get comfortable. Felt like I was sitting on a hard bench, my bottom would get numb if I played very long and it didn't hold me in place, felt like I was always sliding forward. Folding/unfolding is a huge hassle and potentially hazardous as it can collapse and flip out the legs and pull cables. I ripped out a pedal port one time. I thought it would be a nice upgrade from a Playseat Challenge but was really disappointed.
Glad you found the right one to suit you 👍🏽
Hi, I've got the same set up, only with the 8nm pack and the load cell, the rig can handle the 8nm for the most part but if you use a really powerful car like the dodge tomahawk or pretty much any Gr1 car then there is a LOT of movement in the frame.
I have to completely pack it anyway and reassemble everyday and I have to say packing it away isn't to bad and only takes about 3 or 4 minutes but putting it back together is a much harder experience. Even after doing it over 20 times I'm still struggling on my own. Much easier with someone to help.
I big tip I would give anyone using this set up is to remove the steering wheel before collapsing it down as once the quick releases are undone the frame becomes very floppy and the weight of the wheel base makes it swing down and you could easily damage the wheel as I found out......I broke the plastic quick release, luckily it was a cheap and quick fix.
Also another tip if you have the load cell or the clutch and find the throttle too light, is to swap the peddals around. So the old brake pedal/clutch is mounted in the throttle which has more tension on the spring. Obviously this means the clutch becomes very light but I don't use it so not a big deal for me and the extra tension in the throttle is a game changer.
Overall it's a great set up for people like my self who haven't got room for a permanent set up. But assembling with the wheel base and pedals in place isn't for the light hearted and is a bit of pain, way harder than the playsest challenge.
The DD pro it's self is amazing and a HUGE upgrade from my G29, highly recommend it.
If anyone has any questions I'm happy to answer.
Some great tips mate, thanks. 👍🏽. I’m kind of lucky that I have the space, not to fold away, as you’re right, it’s more of a pain setting up than packing away. I have a part two video where I have now used Rachet straps, which does a great job in securing the entire system, but again, would be more time if having to undo and redo. All I do is unplug, lift up pedal base and push to the side. I don’t even open the front part to get in as it’s all strapped up now.
I ordered the csl dd (8nm) with the mclaren gt3 wheel. I’m just concerned if the seat would be stable enough for the 8 nm. I’m probably going to play on 6 or 7, will the fgt seat handle it?
@@PainYT See how you get on, and if you find too much movement, you can always get some straps to secure it down
What are the dimensions of this rig folded up with your equipment attached (minus the wheel)?
Thank you for the video 🙂
Great video bro
cheers mate
Great review bro
Cheers mate
Very same set up here and yes, I knew to turn the base round thanks to Reddit research before I received mine. Three weeks in and no regrets. Excellent purchase
Wish I had done the same, I struggled and then resorted to google and found good old Reddit 😂
Wait, can you elaborate please?
You should try racing with the assists off… Much better experience…
I got this video. Nice mate
Cheers dude
Great Vid. Did you purchase the 5nm or 8nm version. If its the 5nm version, do you intend to upgrade to the 8nm Boost Kit?
Thanks mate, mine is the 5nm, tbh that’s enough for me for now, so no short term plans to upgrade as yet. I’m releasing another video tonight on a Electric Racing Jaguar that I spent 1mil credits on, when I reach 200mph, the force feedback is insane!
@@ChoccoMonsta 👍
Excellent video, thanks for sharing all the essential details and importantly the price. I'm from the UK as well and looking for this exact set up.
I've never owned a sim before so will be my first plunge and I was wondering if its worth the money??
Are you really happy with it?
It's a difficult question in the sense that it is based around your own circumstances and how much you love car racing games vs cost. I've been out of the games scene for approx 10yrs and so not a heavy gamer, I play this game approx 4hrs per week. Am I happy with it, yes, even though it annoys me sometimes, but that's just me needing to get better at it. Was it worth it, I'm on the fence with that one, yes I do enjoy playing it, but if I didn't have it, I wouldn't miss it. Ask me again in about a month, I need more time to play, but also, upgrading from 65inch screen to 75inch mini LED 8K, TV arriving next week, so I might have a different answer for you in about a month.
Hey mate, great video and love the vibe your room has. I have the FGT lite as well, and I’ve just put together the pedals. The only problem I have is putting the pedals where they’re supposed to go at the bottom. It didn’t come with the screws to screw it into the F-GT Lite’s pedals position. Could you make a short video on that part of the installation? And the wheel base to its position if you’ve got the time as well. Cheers.
Hey mate, thanks and your not the first to ask. I’ve put some info in my description about it and will try and make a video this week, may be end of week, depending how busy work is
Hey buddy, great review. I always heard that you could not use a DD wheel with this seat but actually never saw someone setting it up or driving on it. I was on the fence about buying but after seeing your video I bought this seat and also the CSL DD 8NM. The seat I’ll receive tomorrow and the CSL DD I’ll only receive on April 10.
Would you be so kind to share any address tips that you might have found out after publishing this video in order to make the steering wheel more firm or anything else?
I’m quite new to SIM world so all help counts.
Thank you so much :)
Hi, yes, I already have one:
ruclips.net/video/qBCY2n3tWN0/видео.html
Thank you so much. Will watch right away. My seat was delivered about an hour ago but the Fanatec will get to me only in about a month. Very anxious but well.... tks a bunch!!
Nice! Didn’t find a lot of reviews for this setup. Only question is with full ffb, does it feel stable enough comparing to using a table clamp?
Yes, But only after I added extra stability and mounting, I used ratchet straps, in my part two video:
ruclips.net/video/qBCY2n3tWN0/видео.html
Great set up! I have almost the same, DD Pro and i have the Playseat Challenge with the Buttkicker Gamer 2...love it! Enjoy your great set up! Try Assetto Corsa Competizione on Ps5 😁 What a great game/sound with the DD Pro
Thanks dude, looks like you have a nice crazy setup!!, I'll check that game out once I've put in the hours with GT7, cheers
Hey mate, how did you set up the buttkicker gamer 2 on ps5?
hello congratulations for the video. I wanted to ask you how tall you are and the comfort of the gt lite. thank you.
Hi and thanks, I am 180cm, just short of 6ft. The chair is comfortable, but I can only do max 2-3hrs per session, that's mainly due to a back injury from skydiving and nothing to do with the chair
i have this same setup but with a loadcell pedal, and the 8nm boost pack. I think you made a slight mistake while building though, the strap you have going from your front legs to the wheel bar should only be in that configuration if its folded on the floor, it should be on both front and back legs of the chair and the back legs should be 90 degrees to the floor for the most rigidity. I get absolutely no flex, bunny hop or anything, it's worth experimenting with the setup a bit more just to dial it in although setting this seat up can be a bit clumsy when nothing is locked in, you get used to it quick. hope this helps!
Cheers buddy, I ended up selling the entire rig, got bored of it all, tried getting back into gaming but failed miserably 😂
@@ChoccoMonsta hey at least you gave it a go and somebody who really wanted it probably got it for a decent price, well done with the video anyways
Great video helpful..which thrustmaster wheel and base be good
I’ve not tried the thrust master, any good?
How/where is your LG C1 setup, it looks like nice with the soundbar in front. I have a 65 inch C1 too, but with the original stand attached my soundbar is too thick and block a portion of the screen, so I need to somehow figure out how to prop it higher, how did you manage that?
Hi, it’s the table, there is enough room at the front for the sound bar to simply rest on the end of the table and partly on the TV stand. However I have just upgraded to a 8K 75inch, and luckily there is still room for the sound bar
Great video. Did this seat come with the shifter mount
Yes
Thanks for reply. Also, the two screws you used to mount the wheel base, did they come with the chair or wheel base?
@@liampardoe2877 Hi, It was quite annoying that the wheel kit didn't come with the screws to mount the pedals, I tried some of the spare ones with the chair, but in the end I used two spares I had in my own toolkit.
Untill recently I had this exact same set-up except I have the load cell. Would definitely recommend the load cell. I just upgraded to a GT Track. I would say the bar behind the seat (where you adjust the head rest) should be turned out otherwise it digs into your back.to anyone looking at this the F-GT lite is perfect if you are just starting out. But if you are space constrained I would suggest the playseat challenge as the F-GT LITE is bigger than you think.
Even folded? I think I can fit the F-Gt under my desk when folded and I couldn't do it with the playseat.
@@Heldermaior folded down it is quite small. But it is a bit of a jigsaw puzzle to put it down and put up again. I found that part a real chore. But when it is up it does take a lot of space. I have offered it to friends for free and they all turned it down because it was too big and couldn't fit in the space they had.
A very unusual way to hold a wheel!
I've improved :)
How did it cope with the DD Pro? Wanting to get one of these but will be attaching a DD+ which is like 12Nm so if these DD bases shake it too much it might be a dead end. Just can't fit a full fixed cockput in my apartment, no storage when I'm not using it on the regular.
@@gedders I bought some extra straps and that did the trick to hold it in firm. The chair is good in the sense that it folds away nicely too
@@ChoccoMonstahad to get a different one in the end. I realised last minute that the wheelbase I bought was 15Nm which is 2 over. I don’t think this knocks the chair though, the fact it can handle 13 is going to cover like 90% of the market, and this seems to be the only foldable cockpit I could find that can go that high.
Were you able to mount the csl pedals with the screws that came with the seat?
Hi, apologies, had a deeper look into this as well as the manual. So the GT DD Pro kit, shockingly didn't come with screws to mount the pedals, that was very disappointing. There were a few spare screws that came with the chair, however, as they didn't work too well, I managed to find two spare screws that I had in my own toolkit. So the downside it that you will need to purchase two screws to mount the pedals
Got this exact set up today. Like you I'm struggling to connect the pedals. Did you use the nuts provided with the cockpit and just change the screws? What did you use plz
Yes, it’s annoying that they don’t supply it, I ended up using two of my own spare ones that I luckily had in my toolkit
@@ChoccoMonsta Any idea what type of screws they are mate? I'm gonna have to order some. I'd be so grateful if you could help me with that info!
@@liampardoe2877 Morning mate, my ones are too long and just about do the trick, I had a look, but no info on them, however I did a google and found these: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154694005845?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1mgfz2hwBSXiwaXc4g42yWQ3&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=154694005845&targetid=1596500855469&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=9045918&poi=&campaignid=15278604175&mkgroupid=135429446288&rlsatarget=pla-1596500855469&abcId=9300698&merchantid=6995734&gclid=CjwKCAjw3cSSBhBGEiwAVII0ZyBy7ZdVVIxPkM6H2MDLzgVmxQDh3GPdGDnsJu_DMTophpdggXoG_xoCW6QQAvD_BwE
@@liampardoe2877 ok, I took screws out and the part that screws into the pedal is 5mm, length needs to be at least 30mm, mine are too long so they stick out which is fine, as it is under the base, so maybe just go B&Q, much cheaper
@@ChoccoMonsta Thanks for reply mate. Did you not bother with the nuts on the back ?
Nice
Thanks
Hey man. Does GT DD Pro only work well with Gran Turismo? Is there a difference between the CLS DD pro and this set up?
From what I've read the GT DD Pro has more compatibility and with full compatibility with the Playstation. The CSL s cheaper, but the GT DD Pro is a newer model. If you have a PS4/5, I would recommend the GT DD Pro kit for the full compatibility
@@ChoccoMonsta Ok cool. Thanks.
I've use my CSL DD PRO on ps5 and pc. Tbh the force feedback is not the best on gran turismo 7. It's unbelievable on AC and ACC
@@liampardoe2877 Thats interesting. I thought because of the name it would only specifically work well with Gran Turismo. Guess thats not the case.
@@leesanction2068 No it's fully compatible with PC as well
All the buttons are for gt7
Thanks buddy, not had enough time to play about with them as yet
Can you feel the force feedback when the car is understeering and losing traction? does it vibrate
Yes, it's a small rumbling vibration
Hello from Greece . Can you make one video with wheel set up? I received mine today i set up litle and i try to play in monza track. In gt7 and i cant !!! Its soooo difficult this is normal??? This controller im so good and with wheel is very difficult!!!😥
How wide is the actual seat and how far off the ground is it? It would help me a lot if you could lmk the measurements of those two things, thanks :)
Approx 60cm wide and height is a slight angle, so approx 30cm
Thankyou man, I really appreciate it
Sorry just one more thing, from the ground to the top of the seat is it 95cm in height?
@@rileyjz0 No, in the GT racing position it's 114cm which includes the legs, 94cm if you don't include the back legs, which are lowered for Formula 1 position. I also found this on the web for you:
Fits users of 47" (120cm) and up to 79" (200cm) as well as a weight capacity of up to 330 lb (150 kg)
Position Dimensions
GT Position
68.5 x 29.5 x 50" / 175 x 75 x 127 cm
Formula Position
64.5 X 29.5 X 37" / 164 x 75 x 94 cm
Folded
29.5 x 15.7 x 34" / 75 x 40 x 87 cm
Ah ok, again thank you so much man. I think I’m gonna get it
hi I noticed the power plug connector doesn't go in all the way to the the wheel base
Yes, not the best, but the clip holds it in
@@ChoccoMonsta yes it was Putting me of on my DD base I thought it wasn't right seeing your is the same as mine made me feel better
How come the DD Pro cost you £588? i thought Fanatec didn't charge tax or VAT for us in the UK. It says when i add it to basket the DD Pro costs 608 Euros which is about £510.
Hey mate, apologies, I made an error, I should have stated the first two prices as Euros, I will correct in my description shortly, for delivery, you do have to pay the customs charge, UPS charged me £114.63, please read this link: fanatec.com/eu-en/shipping/delivery
@@ChoccoMonsta Its okay mate i was just curious as other people pay around £630 for the standard wheel kit. Im looking to buy one myself so i have been researching the prices lol.
@@TomDobo1992 Yh, that’s about right, as my total was £619.70, good luck and warn everyone you won’t be seeing them for a while once you buy it :)
@@ChoccoMonsta Haha i will do. Cant wait to get it mate.
I ordered yesterday. My full price was 731 EUR including VAT and delivery.
What’s the update for the driver mean?
Not quite sure what you mean, but if you're talking about the wheel, then connect to PC and update, or for PS5 go to settings and update from there
🤔 Are you using the boost kit?
Hi, no, I just have the standard 5nm version, which works well for now
@@ChoccoMonsta 😎 Oh ok
Would this work with Xbox series X with a Xbox compatible steering wheel?
Hi, If you are talking about the chair, then yes, will work with BOX compatible steering wheel. The chair is not machine-specific, but also, you can get additional plates and accessories from Next Level racing if you want a better fit. Here is the link I used on Amazon to purchase it: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B083JW5YKM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1 and lastly, the DDPro steering wheel works with PS5, XBOX & PC, it has 3 modes
@@ChoccoMonsta oh okay. I thought the GT wheel is only compatible with Playstation. To use DD pro on Xbox you have to buy a licensed Xbox wheel. Thanks for replying
@@poisiion Ah, ok, you are talking about the GT DD PRO (not the chair), Yes, the base will work with the XBOX, BUT.. you are right you need a XBOX licensed steering wheel, so this GT bundle is not for you, you need an XBOX bundle. The base unit will work, as it has 3 modes: PS4/5 or XBOX or PC Mode, but the GT Wheel won't
Have just upgraded to a PS5 do I keep the light the same as it was on PS4 or is there a diff mode
Hi, not aware of any prior PS4 settings, there is only one setting for PS5, the other two are Xbox & PC
Mine came this morning but I won't be playing Grand Torismo on it, I never rated the game, the cornering on it's always clunky and terrible .
fair enough, enjoy
Hai how many bolt you have on your wheel base? 3 bolts?
The plate on the F GT Lite was not so good, so I only used two
@@ChoccoMonsta I we thinking custom drill a hole
@@SolidSL510 you could, to get better stability, a guy here also commented that he used rachet tie downs, I've ordered some and will test in next few days. The 2 screws for me on the wheel base are sufficient, it's the plate that needs to be tied down to lesson the movement for me
@@ChoccoMonsta but if you have a 8nm it still good for 2 M6 bolt?
can the drivers be updated on a mac?
No, according to the user manual
Do you think the seat could handle the 8nm wheel base ?
Hi, the wheel base is the same, the difference is that the 8nm comes with a 180w power supply vs the 5nm which is only 90w
@@ChoccoMonsta yea I’m worried that the power of the 8nm would have the rig shaking to much. What do you think since you have the 5nm ?
@@gstylez909 Pretty sure you should be able to find some side mounting brackets for the wheelbase, I remember seeing it in a video, I'll try and hunt it down later. In terms of 5nm vs 8nm, that would be a personal choice, for me 5nm is sufficient, I had the forcefeedback level set to 10, but lowered it and found 9 was enough for me, so 5nm is good for me, but I've also read that some guys love the 8nm. I'm a light gamer as well
@@gstylez909 Depends what game you play. For me the difference between 5 and 8 on gran turismo 7 is very minimal. However if you plan to use it on AC or ACC then the jump to 8 is big. My desk and monitor shake 🤣
I am running 8nm on same set up without issue
Hello, I’m interested in buying fanatec gear for my Ps5. Can I configure the wheel in Ps5 on app or in game? Or do I have to configure wheel on a pc or laptop. I’d really appreciate it if someone can let me know. I currently own Logitech g29 but for some reason, it won’t work properly for most games. Unresponsive. Only works flawlessly on dirt rally and dirt 4. Oh I used it on PS4 but now I have Ps5. I’m planning on plugging in my g29 but as I battered dirt rally and dirt 4 for 6 months, I’m kinda putting it off as I want to play some other games but wheel just won’t work properly. Some say I must configure on pc and some say that that won’t work for ps4 . They say the settings made on pc will be lost on PS4 because it’s not a pc. So I just dunno. I don’t fancy spending hours going through all wheel settings, in game and getting knowwhere
I don't know about Logitech, but for the Fanatec DD Pro, you only need to connect the wheelbase to a PC the one time, and that is only because you have to update the driver. All the configuration of the wheel is done on the PS5
@@ChoccoMonsta oh, that sounds great. Oh, this may sound silly but when buying a Fanatec wheel, does it always come with pedals and the wheel base? If not, is it possible to mix and match Fanatec gear? And I heard about Fanatec price increase, recently, do you know if this is true? I remember looking at Fanatec gear, last year and it was really expensive then, so I really hope the price increase, isn’t too high
@@grahamkelly8662 You can buy the kit or custom build with loads of accessories, depending on your budget
@@ChoccoMonsta sorry to be a pain but I have 1 more question.
Do you think it will benefit me if I plug in my Logitech g29 into pc to configure and then plug in Ps5? Or it will only work if I was to play on the pc? Maybe that will make it more responsive on Ps5 Thanks 👍
@@grahamkelly8662 sorry no idea on the logitech, do a google, I'm sure someone has done this
How the fuck Did you attach the wheelbase to the metal plate
Check my other video which goes into more detail
Your wheel is too far away from you and you should be at 9 & 3 not 10 & 2
Thanks for the tips, I’ll try 10/2 and let you know. With the wheel, I don’t like it too close to me, just a personal preference
That's a lot of money for a deck chair bro.
@@Gdad-20 😂🤣😂, it’s my BBQ chair
That wheel looks tinyyyy
It’s just right
There is pretty big “input lag” 🙄
I don’t see that, I find it very responsive
No there isn’t
@@ChoccoMonsta yes there is... maybe u dont see this and Got used to it... try to change tv on game Mode