READ THIS WHOLE COMMENT! The TBS multiprotocol module WILL NOT WORK in the X9 Lite due to a difference in the shape of the module bay. It can bind to FrSky receivers! It just can't fit into the X9 Lite bay. When you update the firmware for the module, you must select the "inverted" type. The video shows the "uninverted" type of firmware. Also, you must manually create the FIRMWARE folder on the SD card, and you must rename the files to be less than eight characters long or they will not show up in the radio menu. E.g. name it "multiaetr.bin" not "multi-stm-opentx-aetr-noinv.bin".
@Joshua Bardwell External multiprotocol modules use the INVERTED firmware while internal modules use the NON-INVERTED firmware. I don't have the TBS module so that one might be an exception however, all the other external modules use the inverted firmware.
@@JoshuaBardwell Looks like they may have sent you incorrect information. What I've mentioned in the OP is also mentioned on the official firmware files page here... www.multi-module.org/using-the-module/firmware-updates/firmware-files
You have a mistake they need to select inverted at the multiprotocol download page for an external module if you use no inversion the module will no longer work on a jr lite bay. Also if possible can you please test the output power of this module versus other multiprotocol modules.
If I ever decide on a new radio to upgrade from my jumper, this is definitely the one i'm going with. It's portable, has folding gimbals and it supports all of my receivers. This is almost a better package than a radiomaster in my opinion. I guess it depends on how you like to hold your tx.
Joshua, you mentioned you'd answer the question "why not just get an irangex module?" but I didn't really catch the answer to that. How do they stack up? Does anything justify the additional cost of the TBS module? To be honest, if it could update through TBS agent that might push the TBS module to the top, but if it can't even do that, what is the advantage?
Throw Tracer in the mix and that would be perfect. I just switched everything over to Tracer and love it. Been debating grabbing the Tango 2, but I've gotten accustomed to hybrid-pinching now, and would feel like a douche if I switch radios right after getting the micro module and hall sensors for my current one
They can do it, but they refuse to do it to keep people buying. I can see the same thing played in automotive/bike/phone/etc industries. Just don't fall for it. I am still with my x9d+ accst with xfire full modul still work like a boss. I love small form factor like tango 2. Obviously they can produce smaller radio run multiprotocol + external modul + easy setup etc but they insist to give you everything just to keep you buying from them.
Except the bigger screen, I'm right with you. The screen on the Tango 2 is big enough for what a screen on a radio (especially for FPV) is supposed to do - allow you to change settings. I'd argue that any screen bigger than 128x64 pixels OLED is way, way, way too big. I got my Tango 2 on monday, so I haven't really been able to fly with it yet, but I'm already loving it. In fact, it stood between it and the TX16S - the ridiculously large screen (and overall size) of that radio is what made me choose the Tango 2. I guess I'm not totally agreeing with you on having the module built in, either - because that would make the radio bigger, when it's no need for that. I like the Tango 2 because it's small. That makes it super easy to pack, when walking far into nature, for example. It seems to me like you're not describing a Tango at all, but rather a generic box radio like the TX16S. That's fine, but again, the nice thing about this one is that it's small. With the external module option, you *can* get some of the features you want, if you want them. Also, sorry about this, "ext" is not a word here. You're shortening "excetera", but the words are "et cetera", meaning "and so on".
definitely feeling like I made the correct decision with the tango2. I hope if there ever is a tango 3 they make the screen larger and have the multiprotocol module built in.
Is TBS gonna launch a new tango II with a native module socket for their multiprotocole module? That could make sense, would you recommend to wait til they do it? I don't wanna burn my radio by making a hole as you did in your previous video. Thanks!
To bad that you have to make a opening yourself for the adaptor and mess up your radio. Why not do it stock from the factory with a rubber plug? Adaptor plate doesn’t come with a cover. In the total price you have to ad the adaptor and a printed cover. My old x-lite had that all built in. Still bought it straight away and love it every minute
I had 3 r9mm not work. One was definitely not my fault antenna fell to pieces. Other 2 I dont know maybe heat shrink bent it and messed it up. I put r-xsr back in and worked. But so tempted to order Crossfire now. Got Crossfire Nano TX in shopping cart with 3 Nano RXs. So tempted. Just having to switch other R9 drone I have is so annoying. 22 screws. Very little room I left in there to work. ugh
I have 2 FrSky R9's, and 4 R9mm receiver's, and could never get them to work properly, or at all for some of them. You should buy the Crossfire, you won't regret it. It's way easier to set-up. Updating the firmware is easier, and the range is far more better than the R9 junk.
I have the URUAV TMX5 on the back on my Tango 2. It works just fine for my Whoop. It cost me 25€, so half of this one. The only thing that's not optimal is that it's so difficult to update the firmware... You need extra electronics for it and what... Elsewhere it just works quite fine!
The Tango 2 has become my go to radio only because all my quads are Crossfire. The only downside is that there are no trim tabs for wings and although this can be overcome by using the OpenTX Instant-Trim feature it's just not the same as simple trim tabs.
Hey Josh! I have been recently obsessed with fpv and everything about it. I am curious if you have tried flying an FrSky SPI receiver with this module? If so what’s your range? Thanks for being so knowledgeable and sharing it!
DJI's A2 Flight Controller has intergraded a 2.4G receiver using frequency hoping technology. It is stated that it can be used with the transmitter of Futaba FASST series or DJI DESST series after linking. Without looking, I am wanting to know if this module will link the the inbuilt receiver on the A2 FC? I just don't feel like paying the asking price for the DJI transmitter, I think it still a few hundred dollars.
I'm very happy with my X9D/Crossfire setup, and with my DJI radio, but I have to admit this sure looks nice. I'm very tempted to pick one up, based on the form factor alone. This module really puts it over the top IMO.
Thanks for the review! Would you consider doing a comparison between crossfire, irc ghost and an r9 module running ExpressLRS (the firmware that unlocks 200hz on r9)?
This is the first I've run into the lawn more range test! That is too good. I love it. Excited about the module. It sounds like - from your pinned comment - that the Tango 2 module bay is also not compatible with other modules. Is that true, or is it a sneaky TBS module bay has some flange that makes it incompatible with the X-lite bay, but the Tango 2 will work with other 3rd party modules?
Compared to the price of upgraded gimbals on my TX16, this is one heck of a deal! Great to just pop in a bag. If there was just a DJI protocol TX module!
I purchased the MPM and am considering switching drones from FRSKY to CRFR. Have done a couple but it’s expensive. So I want to use the MPM since I have it. BUT am wondering if there is inherent latency in using an external module over an internal module? I know crossfire is going to be better because of what it is but do I lose response on MPM over my QX7S? Thanks for the video.
Very cool. They should also see with the module built in for folks who don't want to go through all the steps. That to me is one negative. But I'm a Tango 2 owner and I love it. With the 500mw upgrade it's great.
If you need mobility or want to keep it tight, this is the best option. I keep my quad and gear in my camera bag so this has been perfect for me over the past few months.
Agreed. And with multi-bind, you could have both radios (so many of us already have a Taranis or Jumper or QX7) and switch back and forth depending on the needs of today’s mission.
Decided to move from FrSky to Crossfire. After TBS multimodule introduction Tango 2 now kinda tick all boxes - have all features required for freestyle quads, compact enough to hide even in pocket, ergonomic, still OpenTX compatible, voice warning messages are present and now compatible with anything. Existing FrSky binding copying in multimodule is very cool - I'm not eager to disassemble quads with receivers hidden deep under FC for rebinding. How FrSky telemetry is working with multimodule? Probably not an issue. The only problem in multimodule socket attaching to radio - seems case miss proper opening for ribbon cable.
Awesome. It’s about time for me to finally retire the QX7. I’m on my 4th set of gimbals and these are y’all gimbals and now starting to jack up and cause my quad to do some weird things in flight.
Just curious 🤔, have you tried recalibrating your gimbals? My QX7S has done that sort of thing with me several times. It would cause my quad to pull one way or another and do weird stuff. After pulling my hair out, I found out that all I had to do was recalibrate them, and all was good. I assume after time, and with wear, it looses it's original calibration.
@@SchmityFPV yeah , i put crossfire micro tx and i don't think there is need to change it for anything. Even with 1W Vtx i will lose video before losing tx signal.
Same here...seen all these new radios coming out, but why upgrade if its working just fine. Iv got crossfire micro with hall sensor gimblas and tbs hardware mod..works great..😎
I Have the frsky e-lite if i want to go to cross fire, what would you recommend ? buy a module for the radio i have or sell and get the tango 2 or the tx16 radiomaster and get a crossfire module?
Joshua, Does the Tango 2 pro allow for servo travel and expo adjustments etc? I fly quads and wings so I don’t need all the bells and whistles on my DX-6 spektrum. I love the simplicity of theTango.
No integration with TBS cloud or even Agent-X but is more the 2 as expensive then a 'regular' multiprotocol module. Is there anything that can justify the price?
Good product. Still not a Tango 2 guy due to being invested into legacy FrSky X9D and full size crossover. But if I were coming into this new to the world it would likely be my goto.
Wait a minute... So my TBS Crossfire Nano module is actually an multi? And I can bind it to 2 xm+ receivers I have?? I have it only for 1 TBS nano receiver, bought it before the big discounted packages came available. My 1 module and 1 receiver without antenna,, was more expensive than 1 module and 3 receiver + 3 antenna's now :(. So basically I'm screwed by TBS for 75 euro. Still annoys me.
Hello Mr Bardwell I am trying to update my module and it give me a error box comes up saying failed to read multi module then hit ok and screen says 1/4 checking flash size...failed.....do you have a fix for me
Hi Joshua, thanks for the great video, but you probably might want to check again about radio cloning for older Frsky (pre 2.0 - FrskyD and FrskyX) whether using TBS MPM and Tango 2 really work the same as in your TX16 or Jumper's internal module. I found out that TBS MPM DOES NOT have the same capability as TX16/Jumper's 4-in-1 internal multi module (even with MPM latest f/w 1.3.2.77) due to the limitation/bug of FreedomTX (tested at the latest f/w 1.2.9). It does not have access to FrskyD/D8Cloned or D16Cloned subtype nor FrskyX/D8Cloned/ or D16Cloned (FrskyX selection doesn't even show up in FreedomTX). Only FrskyX2 is available (including the "Cloned" sub protocol). the "real" :D OpenTX radio (not fork) doesn't have this problem. This was also confirmed by multi-module dev in their forum (rcgroups) today. One of the workaround is to substitute the FrskyD and FrskyX protocol items with other protocol slot, so you ended up able to access the FrskyD D8Cloned (for example) but using other protocol name (i.e. Hubsan :) ), to do this you need to re-compile your own multi-module bin. I've tried it, not nice, but it works. Interestingly, this was actually an old bug because it was first asked in multi-module forum last Nov, but seems never been fixed in freedomtx until today... hopefully the day of moving to openTX for Tango 2 will come someday so we can enjoy the full compatibility of openTX features. In meantime, probably TBS MPM+Tango 2 should have been advertised as able to do Frsky cloning but only on FrskyX2 protocol, not older Frsky protocol.
Can the tango 2 with the mpm module be in antenna stand mode or it’s too bulky? I know it now can’t be lay flat but I can’t find someone using the antenna stand with mpm module. Thanks for letting me know!
I wanna get into the fpv stuff. So basically im a beginner and im trying to understand how all these specs and systems work together. An i want to by a nazgul evoque F5 with the crossfire receiver. And my first questions is if the antennas are included when the crossfire nano diversity rx receiver is added and my secon question is if can use the TBS Tango 2 to fly that drone. Or do i also need the module on the back. It would be really nice if someone could help me out, because its just so much input and information i get, that i cant really understand everthing. And Joshua thanks for all your helping videos. Ive watched about 50 different one them in the last 2 days to get into the fpv worl. And its helping me a lot thank you.
When you have the module bay on the back without the module, are the pins always exposed like that or is there some kind of nice cover you can protect them with?
Will the TBS MPM come with the TBS Tango 2 module bay add on (or do you still need to buy that separately for a further USD10 or so) - the pics on the TBS website seem to so some sort of adapter with the MPM, bit I'm not sure if that includes the cable and connector stuff...?
@@JoshuaBardwell I have the non pro model. Mine don't seem to want to unscrew at all, and I'm hesitant to apply too much force, am I missing something?
Hi can someone help me! im very new to this stuff. I have an emax pro drone and dji goggles which should connect no problem. I was looking at what transmitter to buy and the tbs tango 2 looked good except there was some mention about how it might not connect to my drone (i dont understand why it wouldnt). BUT! supposedly i could fix this problem by rewiring the controller and adding some new module on the back! (rewiring looks too complex for my two brain cells). SO, my question is, will the tango 2 connect to my drone or is there a way for me to find out if it will connect, before buying the controller. and If the tango 2 needs the module on the back to connect, is there a way to buy the tango 2 with the module already installed?
It's relevant but don't bother going out and buying it. The elrs versions of the radiomaster zorro, boxer, TX16 are all better options since elrs is updating their products. TBS is not really. P.S. I still use the Tango 2 with an elrs module and it's still a great radio. But I've owned it for a few years now.
I do setup this tango 2 pro v3 board with MPM . I want to bind to betafpv meteor65 FrSky_X what which protocol i will choose on multi? Thank you in advance
Still love the ergonomics of the turnigy evolution. Gameboy style with a large display and smart gimbal protection. So sad it is ADHFS only, has no module bay, no 4in1 and no open-TX.
I can't get this stupid thing to bind to any Bayang Rx's!!!! Just updated the firmware to the most recent (inverted) but it still won't connect. It makes that binding noise it always makes when you click bind but nothing will happen. I have an old Devo 7E that I put an NRF module in and that will bind just fine. THE ENTIRE REASON I BOUGH THE MPM IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS TO FLY MY WHOOPS AND THIS IS MAKING IT USELESS!!!! Any ideas as to what might be wrong?
I've been watching Trappy lately,JB have you ever had him on your channel. He is hilarious, and really just speaks his mind, very entertaining. He even admitted he could not tell the difference in latency between Crossfire and Tracer, cool guy.
@@Str8GasGenetics Because I have small hands and the Jumper T16 is HUGE. Jumper is ok AFTER I had to replace the ribbons to stop the errors. I just like having more space in my pack and something that fits my hands better and honestly T2 seems slightly better build quality as well. I am not saying Jumper is bad but... it's a preference.
@@moblades1 I have small hands (and I’m new so don’t have experience on this), . So looking at this or tx12 or t12. So many choices, confusing. Need to know first if I’ll get motion sickness haha
@@Cons2911 I've been using my Tango 2 regularly. It has been a great radio and with updates and power upgrades, it is very capable and well built. I started out flying the standard 2.4ghz receivers but had issues with failsafes and never had this problem with crossfire. I highly recommend just for peace of mind and less worry.
Where can i see a list of protocols the multiprotocol module supports? Ive been googling a lot and cant find anything. Maybe Im using the wrong search terms.
does this work with FRsky R9 receivers ??? I literally fly all R9 stuff but would jump if I could do so without having to replace every single one in my quads
Anyone with experience recommend this one to control my Spektrum BnF planes with my Tango 2? There are so many of these modules now. (Trying to reduce my radios). Thanks
One other thing to add about the Tango II......when you go and retrieve your kwad after a crash, the darn thing can fit in your pocket!!! that is if you have the folding gimbals and are wearing cargo shorts or a hoodie, but still, pocket sized transmitter :D I do hate the screen size, but I'm going to test out one of magnifying sheets over the screen tomorrow. Then that'll be one less thing to whine about ;D
nope....didn't work :( The magnifying sheet I bought, when placed on the screen, there was zero magnification. I had to move it a good 2" away from the screen to get any kind of increase in screen size. Oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
![☀ Танго 2 - с любовью к мелочам. Аппаратура РУ, которую я ждал! [Tango II]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/v8PkyPr1U7c/mqdefault.jpg)
READ THIS WHOLE COMMENT!
The TBS multiprotocol module WILL NOT WORK in the X9 Lite due to a difference in the shape of the module bay. It can bind to FrSky receivers! It just can't fit into the X9 Lite bay.
When you update the firmware for the module, you must select the "inverted" type. The video shows the "uninverted" type of firmware. Also, you must manually create the FIRMWARE folder on the SD card, and you must rename the files to be less than eight characters long or they will not show up in the radio menu. E.g. name it "multiaetr.bin" not "multi-stm-opentx-aetr-noinv.bin".
Where do I get the potatoes shirt? Lol
so this module won't work with my old XM+?
It will
@@zoltangremsperger5361 no it will work with your reciever but not in a frsky radio.
What you meant to say here is that the TBS module doesn't work with FrSky radios because Trappy hates TBS.
I'm a beginner, and now using the Tango 2 to fly at Bardwell's yard. :D
😆 Gotta love the smug look when you roll out and on the tractor
they see him rollin', they hatin'
Bobby Boucher'n it 😂
@Joshua Bardwell External multiprotocol modules use the INVERTED firmware while internal modules use the NON-INVERTED firmware. I don't have the TBS module so that one might be an exception however, all the other external modules use the inverted firmware.
This came directly from radiomaster through Trappy. imgur.com/gallery/pVGTOCF
Although I didn't test it yet.
@@JoshuaBardwell Looks like they may have sent you incorrect information. What I've mentioned in the OP is also mentioned on the official firmware files page here... www.multi-module.org/using-the-module/firmware-updates/firmware-files
I can confirm you're right. If you try to flash noinv it refuses. You need inverted.
I LOVE my Tango 2. I just preordered mine using your link. Thanks for the info!!
you gonna learn something today. I like you when you said that.
You have a mistake they need to select inverted at the multiprotocol download page for an external module if you use no inversion the module will no longer work on a jr lite bay. Also if possible can you please test the output power of this module versus other multiprotocol modules.
If I ever decide on a new radio to upgrade from my jumper, this is definitely the one i'm going with. It's portable, has folding gimbals and it supports all of my receivers. This is almost a better package than a radiomaster in my opinion. I guess it depends on how you like to hold your tx.
Joshua, you mentioned you'd answer the question "why not just get an irangex module?" but I didn't really catch the answer to that. How do they stack up? Does anything justify the additional cost of the TBS module? To be honest, if it could update through TBS agent that might push the TBS module to the top, but if it can't even do that, what is the advantage?
Bcz it with TBS logo 😂
@@davydovevgeniy Exactly, it's just a rebranded, repackaged clone from what I see.
Irangex is discontinued as far as I can tell although you can still get them.
This has just added more for me to think about between the radiomaster and tango 2. Thanks for the video. Love the range test.
I'd like to see a tango 3, built in module, bigger screen, agent x supported updates for the multiprotical system...2w capabilities 😉😉 ext...
🥃cheers🍻
Agree, they keeping put out garbage, one radio same to the other. A tango with the features you said will be the solution
Almost sounds like you need the Tango 1 :)
Throw Tracer in the mix and that would be perfect. I just switched everything over to Tracer and love it. Been debating grabbing the Tango 2, but I've gotten accustomed to hybrid-pinching now, and would feel like a douche if I switch radios right after getting the micro module and hall sensors for my current one
They can do it, but they refuse to do it to keep people buying.
I can see the same thing played in automotive/bike/phone/etc industries. Just don't fall for it.
I am still with my x9d+ accst with xfire full modul still work like a boss.
I love small form factor like tango 2. Obviously they can produce smaller radio run multiprotocol + external modul + easy setup etc but they insist to give you everything just to keep you buying from them.
Except the bigger screen, I'm right with you. The screen on the Tango 2 is big enough for what a screen on a radio (especially for FPV) is supposed to do - allow you to change settings. I'd argue that any screen bigger than 128x64 pixels OLED is way, way, way too big. I got my Tango 2 on monday, so I haven't really been able to fly with it yet, but I'm already loving it. In fact, it stood between it and the TX16S - the ridiculously large screen (and overall size) of that radio is what made me choose the Tango 2.
I guess I'm not totally agreeing with you on having the module built in, either - because that would make the radio bigger, when it's no need for that. I like the Tango 2 because it's small. That makes it super easy to pack, when walking far into nature, for example.
It seems to me like you're not describing a Tango at all, but rather a generic box radio like the TX16S. That's fine, but again, the nice thing about this one is that it's small. With the external module option, you *can* get some of the features you want, if you want them.
Also, sorry about this, "ext" is not a word here. You're shortening "excetera", but the words are "et cetera", meaning "and so on".
Love my T16s and crossfire, the only thing that is attractive to me in the tango2 is the form factor
definitely feeling like I made the correct decision with the tango2. I hope if there ever is a tango 3 they make the screen larger and have the multiprotocol module built in.
Is TBS gonna launch a new tango II with a native module socket for their multiprotocole module? That could make sense, would you recommend to wait til they do it? I don't wanna burn my radio by making a hole as you did in your previous video. Thanks!
To bad that you have to make a opening yourself for the adaptor and mess up your radio. Why not do it stock from the factory with a rubber plug? Adaptor plate doesn’t come with a cover. In the total price you have to ad the adaptor and a printed cover. My old x-lite had that all built in. Still bought it straight away and love it every minute
what does bardwell say...
its pain in the ass😂
@@darkness1943 Nothing that can't be fixed with a dremel and duct tape.
Now I wait for them to come back in stock.
Amain hobby
I had 3 r9mm not work. One was definitely not my fault antenna fell to pieces. Other 2 I dont know maybe heat shrink bent it and messed it up. I put r-xsr back in and worked. But so tempted to order Crossfire now. Got Crossfire Nano TX in shopping cart with 3 Nano RXs. So tempted. Just having to switch other R9 drone I have is so annoying. 22 screws. Very little room I left in there to work. ugh
I have 2 FrSky R9's, and 4 R9mm receiver's, and could never get them to work properly, or at all for some of them. You should buy the Crossfire, you won't regret it. It's way easier to set-up. Updating the firmware is easier, and the range is far more better than the R9 junk.
I’m new here, I love your place. Lots of trees, looks peaceful
I have the URUAV TMX5 on the back on my Tango 2. It works just fine for my Whoop.
It cost me 25€, so half of this one.
The only thing that's not optimal is that it's so difficult to update the firmware... You need extra electronics for it and what...
Elsewhere it just works quite fine!
+1 for lawnmower drive. Other youtubers have their electric skateboards - JB drives his signature yellow lawnmower - LOL 😂
He should upgrade his lawnmover for Crossfire compatibility and add camera and VTX to it.
@@KrotowX great idea. And he could tell his neighbours that he has a self driving mower.
Too late, TBS. I just made a decision and instead of getting tango2, just got the CF nano for my x-lite.
Awesome test, JB :D
Finally! I waited so long for this episode good work Joshua!
seem to much when irange is 35 thats gonna hurt there sales of this i like it but im all about saving money thanks jb
The Tango 2 has become my go to radio only because all my quads are Crossfire. The only downside is that there are no trim tabs for wings and although this can be overcome by using the OpenTX Instant-Trim feature it's just not the same as simple trim tabs.
Don’t bind Spektrum in “2 11” or “1 22”... that’s DSM2, old, DSMX is what you want :)
Nothing new about DSMX now?
Hey Josh! I have been recently obsessed with fpv and everything about it. I am curious if you have tried flying an FrSky SPI receiver with this module? If so what’s your range? Thanks for being so knowledgeable and sharing it!
DJI's A2 Flight Controller has intergraded a 2.4G receiver using frequency hoping technology. It is stated that it can be used with the transmitter of Futaba FASST series or DJI DESST series after linking. Without looking, I am wanting to know if this module will link the the inbuilt receiver on the A2 FC? I just don't feel like paying the asking price for the DJI transmitter, I think it still a few hundred dollars.
What is the battery life like when using the external module?
Shit lasts so long that I've never noticed the difference
I'm very happy with my X9D/Crossfire setup, and with my DJI radio, but I have to admit this sure looks nice. I'm very tempted to pick one up, based on the form factor alone. This module really puts it over the top IMO.
Thanks for the review! Would you consider doing a comparison between crossfire, irc ghost and an r9 module running ExpressLRS (the firmware that unlocks 200hz on r9)?
ExpressLRS!
@@Nici619 thanks for the correction! Do you use it?
@@gautamkrishna7421 not yet. I ordered the nano 900hz pcbs. Shipping takes 3-4weeks ☹️
@@Nici619 pcbway?
When will we get part 2 of last night's stream? Will the sharkbyte install continue on the next one? Thanks Joshua.
There is no part 2 the stream just died for technical reasons.
@@JoshuaBardwell Okay, thanks Joshua.
Looooved that snurel when you started rollin on da lawnmower
This is the first I've run into the lawn more range test! That is too good. I love it. Excited about the module. It sounds like - from your pinned comment - that the Tango 2 module bay is also not compatible with other modules. Is that true, or is it a sneaky TBS module bay has some flange that makes it incompatible with the X-lite bay, but the Tango 2 will work with other 3rd party modules?
Compared to the price of upgraded gimbals on my TX16, this is one heck of a deal! Great to just pop in a bag. If there was just a DJI protocol TX module!
I purchased the MPM and am considering switching drones from FRSKY to CRFR. Have done a couple but it’s expensive. So I want to use the MPM since I have it. BUT am wondering if there is inherent latency in using an external module over an internal module? I know crossfire is going to be better because of what it is but do I lose response on MPM over my QX7S? Thanks for the video.
Very cool. They should also see with the module built in for folks who don't want to go through all the steps. That to me is one negative. But I'm a Tango 2 owner and I love it. With the 500mw upgrade it's great.
If you need mobility or want to keep it tight, this is the best option. I keep my quad and gear in my camera bag so this has been perfect for me over the past few months.
Agreed. And with multi-bind, you could have both radios (so many of us already have a Taranis or Jumper or QX7) and switch back and forth depending on the needs of today’s mission.
Time for a tango III with this module built in
and trim buttons
they will already have it in the drawer if not in production
That would be something to buy... This is Why I did not buy tango2... And this doublesided tape mod solution looks so temporary and bulky...
Decided to move from FrSky to Crossfire. After TBS multimodule introduction Tango 2 now kinda tick all boxes - have all features required for freestyle quads, compact enough to hide even in pocket, ergonomic, still OpenTX compatible, voice warning messages are present and now compatible with anything. Existing FrSky binding copying in multimodule is very cool - I'm not eager to disassemble quads with receivers hidden deep under FC for rebinding. How FrSky telemetry is working with multimodule? Probably not an issue. The only problem in multimodule socket attaching to radio - seems case miss proper opening for ribbon cable.
such a great use for a lawnmower
I am leaving a thumbs up on this one mainly because of the tractor.
Awesome. It’s about time for me to finally retire the QX7. I’m on my 4th set of gimbals and these are y’all gimbals and now starting to jack up and cause my quad to do some weird things in flight.
Just curious 🤔, have you tried recalibrating your gimbals? My QX7S has done that sort of thing with me several times. It would cause my quad to pull one way or another and do weird stuff. After pulling my hair out, I found out that all I had to do was recalibrate them, and all was good. I assume after time, and with wear, it looses it's original calibration.
@@SCFPV yes I’ve recalibrated numerous times and nothing seems to work except replacing the whole gimbal.
Put a module bay and use IRC Ghost in a tango 2. WE NEED TO SEE IT!
i was thinking the same thing lol, the amount or REEEEEEEs from it will be hilarious!!
tracer go brr
Sticking with the QX7, haven’t found a reason to switch yet.
Especially if it’s one of the old accst ones, totally agree
@@gautamkrishna7421 Yep that’s exactly what I have. Haven’t had a problem with connection yet if anything I run out of video first anyways.
@@SchmityFPV yeah , i put crossfire micro tx and i don't think there is need to change it for anything. Even with 1W Vtx i will lose video before losing tx signal.
Same here...seen all these new radios coming out, but why upgrade if its working just fine. Iv got crossfire micro with hall sensor gimblas and tbs hardware mod..works great..😎
Huge clunky radio which is made by a bad company. I have a brand new one I got for free that I refuse to use for those reasons.
Tango is the best radio for me. Can pack it in anything and go anywhere and fly anything with the multi protocol module. Sold my TX16S.
I’m between xt16s or tango 2 pro
I like the big screen of the xt16s but I like the small tango but I hate the small screen 😔
I Have the frsky e-lite if i want to go to cross fire, what would you recommend ? buy a module for the radio i have or sell and get the tango 2 or the tx16 radiomaster and get a crossfire module?
Joshua,
Does the Tango 2 pro allow for servo travel and expo adjustments etc? I fly quads and wings so I don’t need all the bells and whistles on my DX-6 spektrum. I love the simplicity of theTango.
Yes it has all that.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks Joshua! Very helpful...
No integration with TBS cloud or even Agent-X but is more the 2 as expensive then a 'regular' multiprotocol module. Is there anything that can justify the price?
Good product. Still not a Tango 2 guy due to being invested into legacy FrSky X9D and full size crossover. But if I were coming into this new to the world it would likely be my goto.
Congratulations on your patent.
Wait a minute... So my TBS Crossfire Nano module is actually an multi? And I can bind it to 2 xm+ receivers I have??
I have it only for 1 TBS nano receiver, bought it before the big discounted packages came available. My 1 module and 1 receiver without antenna,, was more expensive than 1 module and 3 receiver + 3 antenna's now :(. So basically I'm screwed by TBS for 75 euro. Still annoys me.
Hello Mr Bardwell I am trying to update my module and it give me a error box comes up saying failed to read multi module then hit ok and screen says 1/4 checking flash size...failed.....do you have a fix for me
Brilliant video.......... love my Tango 2
Don't mow and range test kids, JB is a professional. Radiomaster TX16S for me. Nice job though TBS.
I don’t get how this is different to, or better than, the irangeX lite module. Can someone please clarify?
compatibility.
@@Burn377 but I thought the irx4 lite is equally compatible?
Hi Joshua, thanks for the great video, but you probably might want to check again about radio cloning for older Frsky (pre 2.0 - FrskyD and FrskyX) whether using TBS MPM and Tango 2 really work the same as in your TX16 or Jumper's internal module. I found out that TBS MPM DOES NOT have the same capability as TX16/Jumper's 4-in-1 internal multi module (even with MPM latest f/w 1.3.2.77) due to the limitation/bug of FreedomTX (tested at the latest f/w 1.2.9). It does not have access to FrskyD/D8Cloned or D16Cloned subtype nor FrskyX/D8Cloned/ or D16Cloned (FrskyX selection doesn't even show up in FreedomTX). Only FrskyX2 is available (including the "Cloned" sub protocol). the "real" :D OpenTX radio (not fork) doesn't have this problem.
This was also confirmed by multi-module dev in their forum (rcgroups) today. One of the workaround is to substitute the FrskyD and FrskyX protocol items with other protocol slot, so you ended up able to access the FrskyD D8Cloned (for example) but using other protocol name (i.e. Hubsan :) ), to do this you need to re-compile your own multi-module bin. I've tried it, not nice, but it works. Interestingly, this was actually an old bug because it was first asked in multi-module forum last Nov, but seems never been fixed in freedomtx until today... hopefully the day of moving to openTX for Tango 2 will come someday so we can enjoy the full compatibility of openTX features. In meantime, probably TBS MPM+Tango 2 should have been advertised as able to do Frsky cloning but only on FrskyX2 protocol, not older Frsky protocol.
Can the tango 2 with the mpm module be in antenna stand mode or it’s too bulky? I know it now can’t be lay flat but I can’t find someone using the antenna stand with mpm module. Thanks for letting me know!
I wanna get into the fpv stuff. So basically im a beginner and im trying to understand how all these specs and systems work together. An i want to by a nazgul evoque F5 with the crossfire receiver. And my first questions is if the antennas are included when the crossfire nano diversity rx receiver is added and my secon question is if can use the TBS Tango 2 to fly that drone. Or do i also need the module on the back. It would be really nice if someone could help me out, because its just so much input and information i get, that i cant really understand everthing.
And Joshua thanks for all your helping videos. Ive watched about 50 different one them in the last 2 days to get into the fpv worl. And its helping me a lot thank you.
When you have the module bay on the back without the module, are the pins always exposed like that or is there some kind of nice cover you can protect them with?
Always exposed, but honestly it's fine, they're very recessed. Hard to show in pictures
I just printed a module bay cover designed for the FrSky xlite perfect fit.
Will the TBS MPM come with the TBS Tango 2 module bay add on (or do you still need to buy that separately for a further USD10 or so) - the pics on the TBS website seem to so some sort of adapter with the MPM, bit I'm not sure if that includes the cable and connector stuff...?
Sandals on a mower?? HES AH MADMAN!🤘🍹😂😄
JB, are the sticks length adjustable? Thank you! Love the content!
yes they are
@@JoshuaBardwell I have the non pro model. Mine don't seem to want to unscrew at all, and I'm hesitant to apply too much force, am I missing something?
@@druemancospr I have the non pro. It does unscrew - it's a 2-piece stick.. Just apply pressure to the top piece or bottom - not both at once.
Hi can someone help me! im very new to this stuff.
I have an emax pro drone and dji goggles which should connect no problem. I was looking at what transmitter to buy and the tbs tango 2 looked good except there was some mention about how it might not connect to my drone (i dont understand why it wouldnt). BUT! supposedly i could fix this problem by rewiring the controller and adding some new module on the back! (rewiring looks too complex for my two brain cells).
SO, my question is, will the tango 2 connect to my drone or is there a way for me to find out if it will connect, before buying the controller.
and
If the tango 2 needs the module on the back to connect, is there a way to buy the tango 2 with the module already installed?
Will this module make an frsky ACCESS transmitter work with an ACCST receiver? Thanks
Thanks Josh
How relevant is this radio today? is there any good competitors? can't seem to find any updates for it
It's relevant but don't bother going out and buying it. The elrs versions of the radiomaster zorro, boxer, TX16 are all better options since elrs is updating their products. TBS is not really.
P.S. I still use the Tango 2 with an elrs module and it's still a great radio. But I've owned it for a few years now.
Can I use my micro TX V2 module with the tango to V3 board and module bay to get 1watt of power?
so u have to have that module installed to have open tx or multi protocall
Can you do a firmware update how to on the MPM?'
do you always wear drone shirts or just us your videos. I really like them I might get some of them
I do setup this tango 2 pro v3 board with MPM . I want to bind to betafpv meteor65 FrSky_X what which protocol i will choose on multi? Thank you in advance
Does that specific module also have tracer?
any info on the size of the flash memory?
How come your Radiomaster TS16S looks so much cooler than mine? Love the purple trims!
How have you made your TX16s so cool BTW purple is my fav color.
Wil tango 2 support Ghost light modul??
Have you ever seen someone upgrading the v3 with a diamond antenna running on 500mW? Will it go even further?
Sorry for the noob question,... did it fit to Taranis Xq7
Tango 2 is my fav radio.. might get a mambo too, depending what it is lol.
Hi will an irangex irx4 module fit in the back of the tbs module bay
Still love the ergonomics of the turnigy evolution. Gameboy style with a large display and smart gimbal protection. So sad it is ADHFS only, has no module bay, no 4in1 and no open-TX.
Newbie’s question tps mpm4in1 module is can bine happymodel crux 3.5 ELRS?
I can't get this stupid thing to bind to any Bayang Rx's!!!! Just updated the firmware to the most recent (inverted) but it still won't connect. It makes that binding noise it always makes when you click bind but nothing will happen. I have an old Devo 7E that I put an NRF module in and that will bind just fine.
THE ENTIRE REASON I BOUGH THE MPM IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS TO FLY MY WHOOPS AND THIS IS MAKING IT USELESS!!!!
Any ideas as to what might be wrong?
does this controller work w. the CineLog35 HD w/ Vista Nebula Pro System 4S/6S (w. crossfire nano rx) ? thank you
where do i get a replacement screen for my tango 2?
I've been watching Trappy lately,JB have you ever had him on your channel. He is hilarious, and really just speaks his mind, very entertaining. He even admitted he could not tell the difference in latency between Crossfire and Tracer, cool guy.
When he said this? Im nit sure about that.
Do the Tbs tracer
I’ll get a tango 2 when the module bay comes stock
On top of things as usual. Getting this module as soon as I can so I can finally give up my Jumper.
Why 😭 jumper is amazing rocking crossfire on my jumper t8 this little thing can do it all
@@Str8GasGenetics Because I have small hands and the Jumper T16 is HUGE. Jumper is ok AFTER I had to replace the ribbons to stop the errors. I just like having more space in my pack and something that fits my hands better and honestly T2 seems slightly better build quality as well. I am not saying Jumper is bad but... it's a preference.
@@moblades1 oh for some reason I thought you were talking about the t8 yeah the t16 is big af and for sure the tango has better build quality
@@moblades1 I have small hands (and I’m new so don’t have experience on this), . So looking at this or tx12 or t12. So many choices, confusing.
Need to know first if I’ll get motion sickness haha
@@Cons2911 I've been using my Tango 2 regularly. It has been a great radio and with updates and power upgrades, it is very capable and well built. I started out flying the standard 2.4ghz receivers but had issues with failsafes and never had this problem with crossfire. I highly recommend just for peace of mind and less worry.
the add on module can it work with tango 2 or do u gotta have tango pro
Hey, i'm from Belgium and want to buy the Tango 2. But i can not Find a website where it is available! Van someone help me with this?
Where can i see a list of protocols the multiprotocol module supports? Ive been googling a lot and cant find anything. Maybe Im using the wrong search terms.
github.com/pascallanger/DIY-Multiprotocol-TX-Module/blob/master/Protocols_Details.md
IM SO HAPPY :D
What’s the difference between tango 2 e 2 pro?
I ordered a tango 2 pro from the TBS website on Feb 6th. it's now March 2rd and they told me probably middle to end of March until it comes. :(
And now it's end of April 2021 and no Tango2's anywhere on horizon :(
does this work with FRsky R9 receivers ??? I literally fly all R9 stuff but would jump if I could do so without having to replace every single one in my quads
It does not support R9.
Anyone with experience recommend this one to control my Spektrum BnF planes with my Tango 2? There are so many of these modules now. (Trying to reduce my radios). Thanks
Were did u get that purple tx 16 max ? I want one :)
Josh can you run ghost duo off the mpm?
One other thing to add about the Tango II......when you go and retrieve your kwad after a crash, the darn thing can fit in your pocket!!! that is if you have the folding gimbals and are wearing cargo shorts or a hoodie, but still, pocket sized transmitter :D
I do hate the screen size, but I'm going to test out one of magnifying sheets over the screen tomorrow. Then that'll be one less thing to whine about ;D
nope....didn't work :(
The magnifying sheet I bought, when placed on the screen, there was zero magnification. I had to move it a good 2" away from the screen to get any kind of increase in screen size. Oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯