Gun Ban Canada Injunction Update
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- My first update in over 7 months on the Gun Ban in Canada series. The CCFR had it's first day in court on an interlocutory injunction request to stay the Order In Council and subsequent FRT "bans". This is my initial summary of what I heard in during the 8 hours of arguments today.
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I like how the Government and RCMP can admit in court that the FRT isn't law, yet still arrest and charge me based on that same FRT information.
Yup, it's pretty messed up, that's why we're trying to change it!
they do that because they know it's not law and the pressure people to cave because it's hard to fight them financially in court. So they take these small "wins" to make a case on precedent to scare others into conformity. The more we fight back and win the better it will be in the future. Ontario is one of the only Provinces that allows you to have a restricted firearm without a range membership (which isn't necessary in the Firearms Act). It's because people would challenge the CFO and over time the courts ruled people could have them for many reasons, such as going to a range with a friend as a guest. The firearms act also awknowleges a firearm for self defence, however we see the financial hardships that happen when someone is forced to defence themselves or their home with a firearm. We need more fights and more wins in court so the prosecutors back off in the future. The process is the punishment, they want us to think we have no right to self defense, WE DO!
The big problem is that if all guns have to be registered, then when "they" finally decide to round them all up, they know exactly where they are. Greetings from Australia. Defend them with your lives!
What nonsense. You have very restrictive gun laws. Nobodies complaining, and I've spent alot of time there.
@Peter Lorimer All those mass killings were set up to get the guns. Less crime and safer women if we all had guns. I used to be a champion and world representative for Australia, pistol, no guns now, but the kids we had shooting junior were the finest kids you'd ever meet. No guns now, but I wish.
@@davidgiles5030 We are now almost 2 generations away from our guns. I don't have any, but if I did, and the revolution arrived, I would defend my guns with my guns and die rather than hand them over.
Do all firearms in Australia have to be registered? Only restricted firearms in Canada need to be registered like handguns and AR15 etc . We do need a licence to own them though.
@Peter Lorimer The majority are actually indifferent to the whole issue. Even some gun owners seemed to be completly unaware of the impending gun ban until it happened. Also, there's very little protest except from gun owners. There really isn't much support for more gun control either, mostly just from groups like Poly Se Souvient and they are also quite small. I feel that more people should care about property rights, especially since banning particular types of guns that aren't even used in crime is unlikely to enhance public safety in any way. Mostly it's just politicians pretending to be busy in order to pander to their base.
Don't forget the rcmp argued specifically that the ar was NOT an assault weapon in order to procure them for their use...so they can't have it both ways.
Exactly, when used by police they're "Patrol Carbines", but in the hands of civilians they're "assault styled weapons". The double-speak is quite telling
@@FreeWhiteNorth the problem for me is using a health crisis to overhaul gun laws without consultation, and without public input from the citizens it is affecting. It had nothing to do with the pandemic, and if the cops in nova Scotia proved anything, its that the rcmp don't do their jobs and follow up on complaints that could have stopped a spree killer. So despite the failure in the system having been the lack of follow up by the rcmp, we're going after legal gun owners.
Next time there's a car accident be sure to sue your province for issuing other drivers a license. If they ban drivers, they'll get rid of the leading cause of death - car accidents. It just doesn't logically make sense
This is horse shit. No weapon or class of weaponry should be restricted for law abiding citizens.
They punish the criminals by punishing law abiding citizens. Thinking banning guns for people who follows rules would stop criminals that don’t care.
The very definition of a Weapon
Is an object used to harm or threaten harm to another citizen
Citizens in Canada cannot possess a "weapon"
I think what you want to say is "firearm"...or "rifle"...or "pistol"....or even (ack!) "gun"
In Canada we shoot things...not people
Big difference
@@notlikely4468 this needs to be said to the government
@@notlikely4468 it's almost like there is zero justification for banning firearms.
@@silencedissent9120
I believe that is the basis of this lawsuit
The OIC was intended to prohibit "new or unusual" devices (bump stocks?)
But is specifically prevented (in black ink) from prohibiting a firearm for (words to the effect) which there is a legitimate hunting or sporting use
So...do people use AR's to protect livestock?
Got a neighbour who does
Do people shoot competitions with AR's?
Yup
So...invalid process....go find another way
(IMHO)
Legal gun ownership is not a problem in Canada. Government is,
Or the government that controls the governments.
I have just donated. I will do it again next month!
Awesome, keep it up!
Didn't Hitler, Stalin, and Fidel Castro (or any semi successful dictator for that matter) do mass firearms bans as well?
That’s what Justin Castreau is trying to do.
Yes for sure !
Not at all. Hitler etc, recruited Racist, white supremasts, and fed them fear propaganda like your taking in.
@@wavelength7503 umm... red herring much? I wasn't talking about propaganda I was asking a question that relates to a very real firearms ban which was instated in a way that, in my opinion, violates a great many ethics. We are not a monarchy and we should not have laws like this, that effect so many people, put in place by one man without a proper debate and due process. In addition if I hear an attempted comeback regarding "How bad firearms are" I would like to hear it from some one who has actually been trained AND has used one. Thank you.
@@Brodrich your type (minority)only want to debate when the majority have voted down something.thsrs how democracy works. The majority rule.
Great video and explanation. Can't wait for Runkle's and Rod's (CCFR) upcoming videos.
Me too, looking forward to it. I hear that they're coming very soon (today from Mr. Runkle), and probably in the next few days from Rod.
We should be able to carry. I can and do in AZ Why does another another country trust me more then my own?
no we shouldnt the US are idiots and it shows in all the related gun deaths each day. No other country in the wworld has daily deaths like the US. there is no reason to have an assalt rifle or hand gun. I have 8 guns all for hunting I have no issues. You can live in AR if you want and carrye your gun. For no reason unless u are hanging out in places you shouldnt be. The Cons took away the registration which is really stupid since it was already paid for and made sense. the criminal arguement is just plain stupid as there will always be criminals and people who dont followthe laws of the country.
@@robm9581 Well I will disagree with you I have spent several years in the US and the people there are not idiots. They are individualists who think people have a right to defend themselves. If you look at all the times guns are used to defend people it is striking how good it would be here for women to defend them selves.
@@robm9581 "The US are idiots".. Wow, what a convincing argument.
All of this coming from a gun owner..?
You completely ignore the economic and mental health issues people face there along with general health and addiction issues. If you didn't know before, maybe you'll know now: violence involving firearms isn't caused by the mere existence of those firearms. For you to blame the actions of violent individuals (a small minority) on guns says you have no clue of the root causes of violence and murder.
Then you try to justify registration of long guns when long guns are statistically not even relevant in violent crimes in Canada. The crime statistics are there if you care to look. But you buy into that because the mainstream media and anti-gun government say so. A heavily armed government, I might add.
You mention the costs of registration when in reality, the cost overruns were in the billions of dollars when it was projected to cost 2 million. on top of that, it was proven that long gun registration had no tangible impact on violent crime and murder. And you support that..? Or the fact that registration leads to confiscation, which this OIC has proven once again. What you don't understand is that the government and others do NOT want ANY CANADIANS to own ANY GUNS.
If your opinion is to support registration, that is fine, but when it's not based on facts, that is not fine.
Because violent criminals and murderers obey gun control laws, correct..?
@@robm9581 more lives are saved with defensive use of firearms than are lost with offensive use of firearms. Armed society is safe society.
@@robm9581 The Liberal registration never prevented a crime, remember only legal firearms were registered, not the ones the gangbangers in Toronto, Montreal, Halifax, Calgary, Vancouver were using. So, it was a waste of money and effort by the Liberals, but then again, it wasn't their money, it was ours, including yours. Why not just flush a handful of cash down the crapper, it would prevent as many gun crimes as the Liberal registry did.
Thanks for the update. However, show me any “regulations” of lately that make sense?! They want all firearms gone period. They want full control over the people at every instance.
Yeah, that's definitely seems like what is happening here.
@Jesse Graves do you think it will ever work? I doubt it. I think most of the goals will fail from completion.
And yet the liberals got in for a second consecutive term ,albeit a minority for # 2. Goes to show the mentality for the liberals out there! And what great brain washers the trudeau gov are! 🤮🤮🤮
@@ch34pskate16 elections don't mean jack anymore. whoever controls mainstream media controls pretty much everything.
@@u.s.citizen9933 Another big step in 2022 banning handguns
The average informed firearms owner can spot the holes in the hypocrisy being perpetuated. Hopefully the judge is not bought and paid for
No variants should be banned If its not restricted ie full auto it should be legal.
Exactly. We should be able to have whatever. Prohibiting weapons is punishing for something we might do, instead we should be heavier on punishing things that people have done.
Even full auto should be legal and non restricted in my opinion. Why aren’t we Canadians aloud to have fun?
@@proamateurs4469 we just had liberals in power for to long
over 60% of Canadians voted so far left that you should be surprised you can own anything at this point other than knowing that manipulative behavior like what they're doing takes generations. The legal argument of guaranteeing that the government won't "phase out" a lifestyle contrary to a political agenda is what needs to be brought up because they do have a long game that the legal system potentially can stop now. They just have to make the right requests and base it on relevant information.
@@scottbuckley6578 Problem is, now Erin the Tool is showing how much of a left winger he is.
the only way it goes the way of gun owners is if the judge determines that the ban is violating our right to be assumed innocent until proven guilty of an actual crime as individuals not as a group. Then it becomes a charter violation.
That’s not going to happen.
ALL government laws are nothing more than opinions with guns.
How true and if we have the guns and weapons we can take the police military and the government down.
We were stupid we allowed the government to sell us on the need to first have papers to carry than buy and now own guns.
It would be easy if we would have never let them have these laws now we have to get our freedom back.
Tough road considering we are wearing dog muzzles over a fake plague.
Well it is what happens when you worship government instead of God.
Dale
Thank you for attending and the report.
Thanks for watching. I'll keep an eye on things and will provide an update when appropriate
one of the things that is missing in all of this is that the people who make some of these ridiculous desidions for very poor reasons always remain in the shadows.. it would be far better if all partisapants who craft these things were identified..it is our right as voters to know who they are and they should be held responsible and have to face not just the people but be held legally responsibe if they use false or incorrect information to forward an agenda that in essence should be decided by the citizens of this country..for far to long the govt has used its power to limit or remove rights and freedoms that are garenteed to us since the bill of rights was put into play... decisions as to what Canadians want there society to be rest not in the hands of nameless , faceless robots who think they know whats best when clearly the mechanism to decide this is vis public vote that will tell those people what we want our society to look like and the laws and regulations governing those regulations.... far to long Canadians have struggled day today to extract themselves from the mire of redtape that has been allowed to creep into law due to wanting to live without fear of govt intervention at the govt whim.. time to stop the erosion of rights and freedoms and expose the faces and info about these people so we the people can hold them to the light of day and make them responsible to the citizens and be punished for any wrong doing..imho
Yeah, a couple of names come to mind...
@@FreeWhiteNorth Wendy?
Absolutely correct, and right on! These damned liberal politician fools built a
wall around the parliament buildings, because the rcmp had not stopped a guy with a lever action 30/30 from 1850, until he reached the library!
The cowards in the building put up a wall and all the gothic architecture is now
hidden because of cowardice! And that biden senile fool who apparently his own relatives did not want him to run for president, has 25,000 soldiers surrounding the capitol today , and the ceremony is on line! these leftist are
cowards! that is how frightened Biden is of the American people!
Sickening ! kennethzakaib607@gmail.com jan 20th 2021
They don't care if they use wrong descriptions or wrong classifications because it's all a tactic to get the non gun owners or the fudds on their side. Most people get their gun knowledge from movies so if the government reinforces their beliefs they will have no problem backing them to get rid of Scarry guns. Like the Nazis used to say. "It's for your safety".
From what I see my envelope which was mailed last September for my RPAL will never be opened !!
Keep fighting, do not comply 💪🏼
Thanks!
Thanks for the update !!
No problem 👍
Ever notice how this type of thing seems to happen across the world after a shooting in only 1 place?
With a tyrant running the country, NOT complying is the only option.
When the gov is not trust by the people its time to clean house and get the right people in office
This OIC was rushed through without proper parliamentary vetting which is a democracy problem.
That's exactly it, and the government kept making the argument yesterday in the hearings that the court cannot overturn legislation (or at least it hadn't been done before). It's not legislation if it hadn't been legislated in Parliament... so yeah, that argument doesn't hold any water.
A challenge to all competitive shooters to donate your match fees that you would have paid if not for covid to the CCFR legal fund. Or there may be no competitive shooting
Yes, this!
That’s it. I’m getting my status card. “You can’t take that, it’s my tribal hunting weapon. Ancient helicopter mounted heavy machine gun. Very sacred.”
Thanks for the update, glad to hear the cases are progressing.
No worries, glad to be able to put the info out.
I see by the thumbs down that Bill BLair is up early today.....
Bill Blair's total contradiction; "I’d like to take a moment to speak to law-abiding Canadian gun owners. I know from very many years of experience as a police officer that the overwhelming majority of gun owners in this country are law-abiding. They are responsible. They are conscientious. They acquire their weapons legally. They store them securely and they use them safely. They respect our laws and we respect them."
Can’t wait to see that POS Bill Bliar behind bars.
I think it’s worth noting that the government of Canada’s main source of information on weapons in Canada is action movies. Making ‘vague’ laws regarding firearms because they don’t want manufacturers to build firearms that slip through ‘loopholes’ is exactly what you think; wanting something that looks frightening is crimethink now. They don’t need to describe it, you know it when you see it.
That fact was clearly demonstrated when they banned the HK G11 by name, despite if never going in go commercial production. The ONLY reasonable explanation is that they watched Demolition Man...
It's quite stupid, they don't know the first thing about firearms, and they rely on "experts", like Mr. Murray Smith, who doesn't even know that an AR-15 has a buffer inside the buffer tube. No joke, it's part of his affidavit and cross-examination
The biggest enemy of gun owners is the media themselves. They have brainwashed ordinary civilians into thinking guns are scary and are only used by evil people. What we’re seeing today is the result of generations being brainwashed by the media.
Yup
Great video -- thanks for putting it out there. I tried following Tracey's updates, but this clip sums it all up nicely.
Edit: thanks for the reminder about $upporting the CCFR. The organization needs our help, and they've certainly been doing an amazing job fighting for us.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching
“[If we were specific then manufactures would just go and manufacture compliant firearms, and we couldn't have that now could we]”
That right there tells you this has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with disarmament. They don't want safer guns they want us completely disarmed for when communism rolls in.
As a Venezuelan I say this with experience from my family, do not give up your arms, it is truly a grave mistake.
Venezuela is a really sad example of bans and confiscation that has led to the destruction of civilized society, now ruled by gangs and mobs (since they're the only ones allowed guns now)
un named variant is an opening to opinion by the officer and court to take anything they want.
So basically they made themselves look like fools and they won’t be happy until we are using only long bows with blunted arrow tips. Nice video, keep up the good work.
Pretty much this. Thanks!
Thank you for your service mate. And i say service because good journalism is the basis of the protection of individual rights
Thanks! I do my best in the limited time I have for this.
Thanks for the update. It does sound promising but we will have to wait and see. These things can go any direction.
Fingers crossed!
They don't care, they are moving forward regardless on any of this.
The American election is a good example.
Thank you for the vid . I subbed. Look forward to more ,thank you
Thank you, I’ll update as soon as a decision comes from the court!
Amazing, you didn’t have an upload for 4 months, I subscribed yesterday and you post something new today
I was reading your mind LOL... Sorry about the lack of posts, been busy with the little one, and summer, then hunting season. There'll be lots more content coming soon!
Cheers to your health from Sask. Stand Strong
Since the beginning I've always said that education is key to this whole thing. People should have a basic understanding of something before they make a call on it. The government makes firearm enthusiast jump through hoops which keeps it safe. I think this whole thing is just a big waste of money and time on the government part. Take that money and deal with the real problem of cross border firearms making there way over from the US. Typical of big government says we are going to take this many off the streets without actually taking them off the streets they want to walk through your front door and help themselves..... Not cool not rite and a very cheap shot to law abiding Canadians.
You're right. Education IS key. Which is why the children of Canada are raised almost entirely by the Government.
Exactly
What's going to happen is everything that doesn't go the Gov'ts way, they're just going to table it all into law and it'll be laid right out for them to do it
Yes you're correct, but at least it will be more transparent than what we got right now
Or not absent Parliament sitting AND them not having a majority
it is because they ll curfew you, look in quebec will soon have a 6pm curfew ...they dont wan t armed resistance...
The liberal way,citizens are nothing more than a paycheck to them.
Amendment to FA "Prohibited Firearm: Any semi automatic firearm" . Done. If anybody thinks this isnt Turdos next step after he wins absolute majority in the spring needs a mental health evaluation ASAP.
Thank you for this 👍🏻
My pleasure!
The US is about to go through this too unfortunately. All it does is hurt law abiding citizens and give more opportunities to criminals. I hope this doesn't go through and that Canadian citizens keep the right to defend themselves.
Thanks Jason. We're hoping for the same, because if that happens only the criminals will be armed.
Canadian citizens do not have the right to defend themselves. That is why it's an easy argument for the government to take our guns.
@@mytwocents3981 Actually, you do have the right to defend yourself and family, with an equal amount of force that you may be faced with. The unfortunate thing is, if the criminal has a firearm and yours are all locked up, like the legally licensed and law abiding firearms owners that we are, we're pretty much pooched.
@@jackasstore1102 yup
@@mytwocents3981 Albertans can if The intruder is trying to harm you then you can shoot them but not kill them
I listened to the hearing as well. The Judge seemed to undetstand that adding firearms to the ban throught FRT was RCMP making laws without legislation. Glimmer of hope. I got the impression that government lawyers were gonna offer a crap ton of money to Wyatt and John to just disappear. I don't think either of them can be bought to easily. I would imagine they are both in some financial strain, however.
Yeah, I think there's hope in that too.
I don't think those guys are going anywhere. This is a fight for their lives and their livelihoods.
Everyone purchase a lotto ticket. Forward to CCFR
This whole process is evil. There is no reason what so ever to ban these firearms. They are already registered and restrictive.
Banning things is seldom the answer.
The government has every reason.
Thank you for you efforts brother, much appreciated.
You bet!
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" Ben Franklin.
They say it's about public health safety yet the gov is okay with us drinking, smoking, eating, and overdosing ourselves to death but guns are bad? Na is it's about power
I feel this sounds promising for all Canadian gun owners, even as a beginning. The government has literally lied about numerous relevant points in banning guns. It's a matter of presenting facts in a (hopefully) impartial setting where facts aren't just ignored.. I mean we all knew their talking points on the definition of "variant" was and is absolute nonsense.
In regards to AR-15's and AR-10's, the crimes involving AR's are basically non-existent, correct..? The ones we see being confiscated were from organized criminals and gangsters.
I feel that if the facts, along with crime stats come out, that the OIC can and will be overturned, setting that precedent needed to stop the Prime Minister and RCMP from doing that again.
I also feel that the mass shooting in Nova Scotia can have a huge impact on helping Canadians since that was used to justify the ban. We know the RCMP dropped the ball there as well, to say politely..
I'll definitely donate to the CCFR when I can.
Not only did the rcmp drop the ball in regards to the nova scota shooting. They allowed it to happen by ingoning all the warnings they got about the shooter beforehand. Two people told RCMP they show and believed the shooter had illegal firearms. The shooter had a pervious firearm ban and a history of violence and domestic abuse. There was Clearly enough warning to take action like a court order to search for firearms. Or put a uncover unit on the guy for surveillance. Then it took the RCMP 12 hours to stop the shooter. Im not trusting my safety to such incompetence. I rather trust myself and my firearm.
@@MuffHam Exactly. We know that and it will also come out in front of a judge. Hopefully in an impartial setting.
On top of that, they allowed one of their own to be killed not to mention every other victim that day.
Then the mainstream media paints the killings as purely a mass shooting when in reality, he killed about half the people by arson..
@@TubeDeviant Also it was not a mass shooting. It was a bunch of individual shootings spread across 12 hours.
A mass shooting happens all at once where all the victims are at the same location.
This, 1000 times
Plus half the victims were burned to death in a mass arson event
We’re in trouble folks.....something is brewing.... 🙏🤞✌️
It's been brewing for a while. This government is trying to re-shape Canada in some weird image that nobody will be able to recognize
It is why I am for separation. Their is no universal culture for Canada. Ottawa has never had the best interests of Canadians, and especially the west at heart. Ie- see current situation with oil & gas
@Jesse Graves You are correct. Sustainable=Communism world wide except for the elites of course.
You better put those guns to good use. You know why they're being taken away
Thanks for update! Also gotta mention when they said something like “oh why can’t you just use another gun to go hunting or sporting with” it would have been the perfect chance to say that what does it matter. It’s all the same! A lot of rifles are all chambered to 5 rounds and semi automatic. How is it any different if the looks are? and to finally shut down the whole assault style weapon term.. you can’t have more than 5 rounds in a magazine for a rifle in Canada, all rifles are either semi automatic or bolt action. Most importantly, assault style weapons like fully auto, high magazine capacity, and select fire guns have been ban for many years already.
Yeah, I think that this is the argument that the lawyers will be making in the full case
@@FreeWhiteNorth well great! I hope they get more into why Canadian gun owners are responsible and never really cause any crime. Most importantly, how punishing legal gun owners for illegal acts from criminals is bullshit. So far a lot of the points that you’ve mentioned that came from the Government made no sense and it’s really sounding like they aren’t really thinking things through before speaking. Even during the first couple days that they banned the ar15, a liberal on the news was arguing with a legal gun owner and every points made by the gun owner made soo much sense that the liberal either stayed quiet or not respond to her points.
@@FreeWhiteNorth I hope soon that if they do somehow succeed, they should declassify a lot of guns from the prohibited list if not maybe all of them and just modify them to fire only in semi auto with Canadian magazine capacity rules. Cause right now a lot of the guns in the prohibited list is just as effective if not even less tactical than a lot of guns in the non restricted category.
The problem for them is they want guns banned period. Canada as a whole is largely wilderness, to ban firearms based on what happens in cities is ridiculous... Banning them regardless is ridiculous... You can't stop people from committing terrible acts regardless of what you do, if anything they should be allowing people more rights to defend themselves and their property.
8:10 The American ATF seems to be doing the same thing with braces and SBRs.
Mr Runkles channel is quite informative ... you did a great job sir thanks
So nice of you, thanks!
Thank you for this content, people need to get informed. If we care get involved!!!
Thank you, I hope more people get involved in the process!
The Free White North - Thank you for doing the work and condencing the court proceedings for us to know to top points that matter. Great Job Brother!
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Thank you for breaking this down for the average person. As someone who grew up around guns in northren ontario I can't agree with you more. Especially with my current expirence.
I moved all over ontario and got away from shooting for a number of years. A few years ago I moved back north and started getting back into shooting again with friends. Fast forward to about a year and a half ago, I decided get my firearms licences. I took the hunter safety/pal for non restricted and about a month after took my restricted course. About a month after that I got the paperwork for my restricted license in the mail. After about 8 months and a handful of phone calls to the rcmp and ontario cfo office I finally received my paperwork for my non restricted in the mail. Everything was filled out and had pictures taken and mailed in within a 2 weeks of finally receiving the paperwork. At this point I admittedly forgot about it for awhile but after about 3 months I received a phone call from someone from the rcmp saying that there was something wrong with the payment (I checked with my credit card company and they had not tried to run a payment thru that card number but it may have been that the rcmp typed a number in wrong when trying to run it or I could have wrote a number wrong.) Anyways I digress, I gave them the number over the phone and they ran it fine. This also got me very excited thinking that I would be getting my licenses soon... well I was wrong. I waited a few more months and then started to Google to see if there was a way to check the status of my apps where I found the rcmp individual web services webpage. My online rcmp account shows they received the applications in July 2020 with the standard "we have processed your initial application and have submitted for further processing" screen. Well I would check in on that every few weeks and to my dismay the page never changed. After months of seeing the same thing I started calling in. The rcmp at that point had finished doing what they needed to do with it and had sent the app to the ontario cfo. The cfo office blamed covid and back log and said they would email the app to the people that process it. The problem is that I was told the same thing every 2 weeks from then until now. About 3 weeks ago I finally got an update on my online login saying that it was accepted and is being mailed out but to call if I don't receive it within 2 weeks. I called after the 2 weeks and was told that covid my be slowing down things and to give it a little more time to get it in the mail.
I personally think that the government is trying to make this process so hard for new applicants that they just give up. I will continue to call and bug them once a week until I receive my card and I would advise any new applicants to do the same. It states on the rcmp website that it should only take 45 days to complete after it is received. I also wanted point out that there are no phone numbers listed for the cfo office on our government website. I had to read through numerous blogs to find a working phone number to get in contact with someone. I am a hard working family man. I have never been in trouble with the law. I pay my taxes. There is no reason why this process has taken over a year and a half now that I can see besides to stop law abiding citizens from legally acquiring firearms.
It's an unnecessarily long process. When I first got my RPAL license it took about 60 days.
@@FreeWhiteNorth the funniest part of all of that is they did not call a single one of my references.
They’re starting it up here in the US also. They won’t stop till they have everything,,, till we’re all disarmed. Truly give an inch take a mile. Good luck and don’t give anymore inches!
It never stops with these people. They think that if they ban all guns we'll have peace on earth.
I am coming to Canada next Spring, and all this conservative energy I see on RUclips is keeping me motivated. Thank you for fighting the fight to keep the government off of people's business to defend themselves.
We'll welcome you with open arms! Glad to hear you're coming to this beautiful land, hopefully we can keep it strong and free.
Don't buy all this keyboard warrior bravery. 9 out of every 10 of these schmucks are really socialists that cower when approached by police. They wear their mouth diapers like good little plebs and did nothing when Trudeau put in the firearm restriction. There is no real Conservative party in Canada
@@beerbellygod1511 Protesting government policy does not mean breaking the law and driving your family bankrupt.
Also, ranting doesn't work, rallying people with reasonable discussion to come and join your cause does.
@@fakhermokadem11 try getting a reasonable discussion without police breaking it up or Antifa/Agent provoceteurs turnin git into a circus. Not including the decades of socialist/globalist indoctrination manifesting through all of us born here.
People, reach out to every firearms owner you know and see if they will donate. Even a dollar or two from each owner in Canada would be fantastic. If there ever was a time when we need to join together this is it. This is about more than a firearms ban... Where will it end if we don't support this cause?
Exactly this. First they come for the black gun, then they come for all guns.
the draconov is not a variant of ak47 But they call it an ak and banned it
Yeah, it looks like an AK if you're blind. It's as much of an AK as a Honda Civic is an F1 race car
The govt and RCMP don’t want consistency or lawfully based interpretation.
Anything that looks like a black rifle is a “variant” of the AR15.
Okay.
But then just to prove “variant” actually really does mean nothing as far as prohibition goes....
They ban the M14 style rifles which are a variant of the still legal and non restricted semi auto M1Garand (which is also grand fathered to be legal for 6 rounds of full Mblock).
None of it means anything except they take what they want and tell citizens to eat cake.
It’s all BS and randomly selected opinion by the RCMP and govt.
Will there actually be any judge(s) that wants definitions and “closure” of certainty for property owners or businesses. I doubt it.
But but but... “public safety”
But I support the cause of trying.
If we don't try they can just keep on doing whatever they please.
I've been a CCFR member & volunteer for 5 yrs. We've done some amazing things thanks to our supporters. Now imagine if just half of the gun owners in Canada joined? Imagine what we could do if everyone donated $5, $10. Help us help you.
Please keep these video's coming!
I think what we need from the injunction is a stay of the OIC until the merit can be determined by the review process which may take longer than the amnesty term. This would rectify the situation of someone inadvertently breaching the order by the vagueness of the order and unnamed variants and the 20 mm. bore diameter clause.
Yes, that's exactly right.
The government kept arguing about a "public safety issue" to the court, but legal licensed firearm owners who have owned and used these firearms for decades had not committed any crimes with them, but all of a sudden it's such an urgent risk that they must be banned immediately? This was one of the arguments made to the judge yesterday, so we'll see what happens.
We are rooting for ya here in the US. We are constantly fighting against the same battle here too. And now with this new administration we just had forced on us it looks like the fight just got much worse. Stay active, stay informed and stay armed. 🇺🇸🇨🇦✌️
Thanks!
Great Show
Thanks for sharing
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Thanks for watching!
Great video keep doing them, some of us just dont have time to read every article relating to the Liberal liars and OUR guns !
Thanks, I’ll do my best to keep it up!
Why did the gov't use "joules" when no normal person knows that term
Hey Jim - how many joules is that rifle shooting today?
Ummm - it’s a 45-70...
Ohhhh - sounds very loud - are sure that’s legal ??
😂😂
Next - it will be variant of “too many joules”... 🤣🤣
I think the Blair morons knew prohibition of 50 bmg as a randomly now prohibited cartridge wouldn’t fly. Is the rifle illegal or the cartridge illegal - or only when I put the cartridge in the rifle it’s illegal.
So they chose an even more arbitrarily stupid definition, that makes even less sense.
Well, joules is a standard measure of energy in physics, so yeah, I think it's the correct measurement, however, how they came up with 10,000 as the threshold I have no idea...
@@FreeWhiteNorth If they were gunning for a particular caliber (ex: A 50BMG puts out x joules, and we don't feel society needs anything bigger than that, so we'll draw the line just above so that sportsmen who already have 50s can keep using them) I'd half ways understand. And as far as random numbers go, 10000 is about as round as it gets I guess. But tell me this: how many murders in all countries where 50BMG is legal have been committed with a 50BMG, ever? A hit in Canada costs about $5000 while a 50BMG costs $7000: who in their right mind is going to use a 50 when you can use a 45 or a 9mm? There's no public safety argument at all to be made here!
From my time having trained with Canadian Infantry (PPCLI) and Artillery (2RCHA) in Canada and Germany, I can tell you they loved their women, guns, whisky + beer.
Keep up the fight brave lads -- we have to resist the gun banners both north and south of our shared border.
Be well cousins!
Thanks! We do love all of those things LOL
Someone should explain to Trudeau THAT WE DON'T LIVE IN CHINADA, THIS IS CANADA WHERE PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS .
And let's not forget Poly screenshotting the stream, posting it online and making a not so nice remark about the judge lol. I hope that will aid in her decision...
Yeah, true, I left that out on purpose since it's not pertinent to the info I wanted to pass along, but they're fools and clowns over at Poly. They even tried to make it look like it was a pro-gun person posting the meme to try and make us look bad.
@@FreeWhiteNorth Yeah, they're pretty pathetic those people.
Didn't hear about this?! Link? Between the government telling her they need 8 years to get their evidence together and this... Judges do pretty good at staying impartial but they're also human and this BS doesn't win points.
@@wilfdarr 8 years??? Hell no. We don't have that time. Sounds like they're just stalling so they can ban and confiscate everything.
@@wilfdarr I don't have a link. I was told by the people who watched the stream.
I sure hope the gun restrictions can be stopped. You need to win.
Thanks, we're working on it!
The "FRT is not Law". So all those people we WARNED not to rush to hand in their stuff burned themselves?
Probably, the court has yet to rule on anything, and this was only an injunction hearing to allow us to keep using our property.
The whole point is that the government is attempting to defend a plan NOT based on logic or fact.
Yes that's correct, no logic or facts involved in "fact-based policy", only for political points in Quebec and Ontario which determines whether they get re-elected or not.
It is pretty strange that after the OIC went through a bunch of NR rifles got reclassified in the FRT to prohibited, which shouldn't really matter seeing as the FRT isn't an actual law
You would think so, but I wouldn't bet $50k in lawyer fees on it. Until we have case law on this, it's going to remain dubious, unless the CCFR lawsuit overturns it
Thnx for the info, Throughout history disarming the people is always a sign of a Tyrannical Government...
I would like to see a class action against the Liberal party on behalf of all gun owners for loss of use of personal property.
I’ve asked this question to a lawyer and it doesn’t seem likely to succeed.... for some reason.
I hope you guys can win this. Canada doesn't have things like the 2nd. I am sure the differences in how our countries gained our independence has a lot to do with that. Keep up the good fight. -From South of the Border.
This government makes me cynical.
Good job. Thank you
Not a gun owner, but think what the government is doing is a major waste of money. Instead they should be putting that money into stopping the smuggling of guns and gang violence.
I am surrounded by gun owners and feel very safe. All of them have had background checks and all of them are well trained in gun safety and strongly beleive in gun safety.
They are also very nice people who are always ready to help you in need.
Any time that a government tries to prohibit something it drives a huge black market.I can see this having an opposite effect on gun safety.Not like that is what the government really cares about anyway
Thats why I left Canada and have no regrets.
Where'd you go, if you don't me asking?
Czech Republic. Here I can walk on the street with loaded concealed gun LEGALY, and loving it.
What work is there
Out of curiosity, in what capacity were you participating in the Zoom call you mentioned? Is there an equivalence to the public gallery during these strange Covid times, where us plebs can get abreast of the developments?
Thanks for updating us!
If he was there like me then yea, its like being in the audience watching. You are under the same rules as if you where in court as well, so no recording, streaming or pictures. I was just watching as a citizen though.
@@djgraph404 Where can I find the information so that I might be able to attend one of these sessions?
Yes, I was just watching as part of the "gallery". I have zero legal experience so I was not representing anyone LOL
I was invited as part of my volunteer work with an advocacy group. They had capped the max audience at 800, so several groups that were the applicants had limits on who they could invite.
I believe that the CCFR had opened it up to their paid members ($50/year) so go ahead and join, then you'll be able to get priority for future hearings.
Damn I wish I lived closer. I would SOOOOOO love to see this. You could sell tickets.....
M14.ca must have lost 99% of his business. I have a fully kitted out M14.ca rifle that was Non-restricted now its a $4000 safe queen. I would like to sell it and buy a Ruger Precision Rifle but like you say they could ban that one tomorrow.
Lots of businesses have been wiped out by this unjust ban.
My rights don't end where peoples feelings/opinions begin!
Correct, in fact the old saying goes "the rights of my fist end where your face begins", and I try to live my life like that.
The total of guns used for the last decades
by law abiding citizens against armed
intruder or armed gang robbers are a great
number.
I'm from the US (in a state which is one of the most restricted states on gun control) and will most likely be moving to Onatrio within the next couple years. The gun laws over there really confuse me
The one "good" thing is that our laws are generally federal, so they don't vary much from province to province.
If you have any questions, or need more clarity, feel free to DM me.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Totalitarian tip toe. Shifting goal posts keep the people occupied while resources drained by transferring to legal fees.
A legal challenge is the only thing we have in our playbook, for the moment, unfortunately.
Thanks very much for this update it was very useful
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching
I would genuinely like to know if this ban does or doesn’t work and how much by or how hard it fails. Any kind of facts would be nice. Thanks for the video 👍👍
You're very welcome, thanks for the comments. I honestly don't even know how we could begin to measure that "it's working", since the target of this is not to reduce crime or increase public safety as they claim. How could it be that, if they're going after the safest most law-abiding citizens, according to their own Stats-Can and RCMP data??
just dont turn the guns in defy the government no compromise no comply
I'm sorry, what guns?
Like having vague speed limits whatever we like at the moment to enforce
Yes, very much like that. It's an "I'll enforce whatever I feel like enforcing in this moment... oh, did you look at me weird? You're going to jail!"
did I miss the ian runkle? link you mentioned posting?
He hasn't posted a video on it yet, but I'll include it in the description below the video as soon as he does, if he does.
If every legal gun owner donated even $10 that would be a huge legal,fund. 2starbucks drinks each. That’s it. If you haven’t donated, you really need to rethink your firearm ownership privileges.
Yes exactly, we can all do more!
I’m planning on putting a call out to all of the competitive shooters in Canada that have had their matches cancelled due to this to submit their Match fees for the year to the legal fund
Wow, I dont know much about Canada, but this is wild. Are the gun-supporting Canadians the minority, or majority?
We're the largest sporting group (hunters and sport shooters) in the entire country, but sadly there are divisions in those groups. The hunters hate the black gun guys since "I don't have one of those, so I don't care, they'll never take my hunting rifle/shotgun" mindset. There are 2.2 million licensed gun owners in Canada, in a population of 36 million.
Sadly, the rest of the population is either somewhat tolerant of hunting, they hate the idea of semi-auto rifles/handguns due to the negative connotations of mass shootings and gang crime.
@@FreeWhiteNorth thats unfortunate. I'm a fan of as much freedom as possible, so I hope whatever happens, it works in favor of the people and freedom. Good luck with your struggles.