My back was hurting to the point of having difficulty walking at that point, so I shoved it off to the side. I went back later when I wasn't hurting so much and put it back on the track.
Been there done that, only full size. Last winter was awful. Broken rail in curve hidden by snow. Dropped a GP7 in the ditch, leaning against the inner bank of the curve in a cut at about a 45 degree angle. Had to leave it a couple days to get the big hook to it.
It is quite handy, even if it was built on a shoestring budget. The track cost about $7000 to build over the course of 10 years. It's due for a rebuild in the next few years. I have a locomotive build project coming up soon on the channel. Lots of machine shop work and fabrication.
Believe me, I know your pain too well. In our case railroad cars derail because the rails get wonky in winter and the springs can't compensate. When that happens it helps to ad some weight. The locos are luckily heavy enough.
I read thru the comments first :) #71's antics are very reminiscent of the 'issues' I was recently experiencing in 'O' gauge. That is, attempting to run European 2-rail (thus skinny treads and small flanges), two-axle boxcars (thus long-wheelbase) on Lionel track :D They were okay on the tangent...except for one track section they absolutely _hated_ ...and derailed exactly the way #71 did :D. I suspect I'll find wide gauge _and_ a dip in that spot too. (disclaimer: I knew what I was getting into with that equipment. I expect to engineer a workaround eventually)
Give 71 a break, she's young and inexperienced. :-) 70 turns 14 this year, by the way. That's 14 years of little improvements and one major rebuild on a locomotive that someone else built.
Aaron it might be just the angle, but “the generic engine “ chain looked loose ! do you still have the wide gauge area in horse shoe curve? 9:50 for the chain view. it is great you were able to transport the pellets, and unload with out any troubles! yes everything is up in price! making it to the point you have to choose what to purchase or hold off on till the next pay check. it is sad how everything is so much more! especially gas, natural gas, wood , electricity, trash removal, water food! etc. oh well hope things change with the next administration.
Years ago, I was a political junkie. I consulted candidates and helped campaigns. I got burned out on that game. None of the parties suit me anymore. Rather than seek out a political point of view nowadays, I seek out the truth in current events. Sometimes, it's hard to find, other times impossible. Sometimes, I get lucky and find it. Sometimes, the truth is reassuring, and sometimes it's unsettling, other times horrific. The more local an issue, the easier it is to find the truth. Sometimes. People are complicated. I'll go back to the trains and the cats now.
Ain't capitalism grand? If only commerce had anything to do with the government... It ain't called "free trade" for nothin'! I still don't know how people can't understand that...
@@MillBrookRailroad politics will make you gray, cross eyed, and just crazy! the sad part is, that it went from service to the people of this nation, to what is in it for me. with the power of money, nothing is safe, or off limits with some people. you are so correct, there is nothing better then curling up with a furry friend and having a “purr therapy” session! that unconditional love and companionship just makes my day! calming and peaceful to have a cat next to you, or laying and purring like “a big rig diesel “ making you feel so good! if it is possible to fix local ,then it might work on the national level. but who really knows.Thank you for the great note Aaron, take care and be safe out there!
I have seen this problem with model trains so I think it could be the thing here as well. The couplers need to have enough slop back and forth side to side especially when attached to another similar loco or rail car. So besides the left and right swing maybe there needs to be a sliding side to side ability with some light shocks on that motion to keep it normally centered. also up and own coupler sliding has to happen as well. Great show of not blowing up at it.
There's plenty of movement in the coupler pockets. This engine does fine most of the time. The rails were too far apart and the wheels on 71 are narrower than the rest.
0:05, I like Greene Team pellets. 😋😋 I wish I had a train like that to haul my pellets into the house. But, it's only 75 feet, so, I guess a hand cart will have to do.
@@MillBrookRailroad More fun than a hand cart. If I were to put in a rail line like that it would be around the house and back yard. Grandson would be ecstatic.
You might consider checking the gauge on the wheels of 71. The 70 and flat car all ran without problems, so just thinking it could be wide gauge on the wheels??? Nice ride along!!!
The gauge of the wheels are fine. They're just on the narrow side on 71. Still within spec, though. The wheels on 70 are Tom Bee wheels. They're a bit on the wide side. The flat car has 2.5" scale wheels, so they're extra wide.
Not the frog, nor track, rails, ties, ballast, gauge. Real culprit is her blindness ! Without any headlight to show her where´s the track, she missed it . Easy for her to follow. As a leader she failed and fell. Unhappy Aaron put her aside. So she can think and ponder her bad attitude. Left alone in that cold snow bank, she cryied her acid tear drops. Now, all wet, she´ll need pampers to soak those sad drops. Life ain´t easy on the track..... Hope Aaron´s back is fine. ❤
Not a millbrook video without a derailment! :) you decided to outdo yourself and take this one to the next level! Is the shell on 71 bIgger than 70 or is the whole engine bigger, thus the shell is bigger? I thought they were the same engine design?
The 71 is inspired by the concept and design of the 70, but it's bigger in every dimension. The only parts they share are the electronic parts, the bearings, and some of the sprockets. 71 is the beta prototype for a production run locomotive I've been working on. There is still work to do to make it perfect, but few people will encounter the tie failure rate I'm experiencing at the moment. The major reason for all the derailments is the track itself. All those spots I derailed on were wide gauging out beyond the length of the track gauge. The 70 seems to have stayed on because the wheels came from a different supplier, and the tread is slightly wider than 71's. 70 was made by someone else.
I apologize if this has been asked/covered in another video, how do you operate both engines, do you simply use the same radio frequency or is there a physical wired connection between the two?
Not a flange issue. It comes off on the same spots. A recent track inspection revealed some wide gauging in those spots. Why 70 didn't have a problem is beyond me. Maybe the wheels are slightly wider. The 105 is a 2.5" scale narrow gauge flat car. It has wide wheel treads, so it's much more forgiving.
@@MillBrookRailroad Might be time to enlist the help of a machinist buddy and see if he/she can't turn you up a special set of wheels with wider treads? Or just buy some I guess.
@@MillBrookRailroad - Hmmm.. Even if they are narrow, that wouldn't explain the propensity to derail on something other than a switch. Just reminds me of a 4-wheel scale test car we handled once. The car had been overhauled but the tolerances in the pedestals was too tight. Ergo, there was virtually no suspension. Just four stiff wheels and it loved to climb over the outside rail.
I guess that #71 didn't feel like working today. Take that, you naughty engine; lie in the cold snow until I decide to come for you! Reminds me of a Shining Time Station scene when Gordon fell into a ditch. Good grief, Charlie Brown.😎😤🚂🚃🚃🚃✝
@ookRailroad RMI has nice WIDE tread wheels, maybe you should consider a wheel change out on 71 if it's to be a Home Road engine. Then not worry too much about wide gauge track until EVERYthing starts falling off the rails...
You'd be surprised how often real railroads would go "eh... screw it" and leave derailed locomotives and cars where they lay, as opposed to trying to fix them.
@@MillBrookRailroad In the past, with model railroads I've built, I'll take old, or scrap box rolling stock, and weather them and position them in the underbrush around parts of my railroad, to simulate that very idea. The most fun one I did, was to take the shell of a locomotive I'd used as a donor for another model, and detail it like it'd rolled a rail and got shoved off into the bush, only to have its prime mover cut out of it and salvaged, and the rest of the engine just left to rust.
@@MillBrookRailroad Shit. I was involved in correcting such a track issue on a veteran railroad bofore anything derailed. Tolerances, max and min, are good to maintain.....
Got a lot of comments regarding your derailment. Nothing more needs be said seems the new engine had issues but the older one did not. Huh? You must have to haul a large number of pellets if you are using that to heat your home. Has anyone ever ask about your carbon emissions from your furnace flu? Just curious. I heard Bill Gates wants to cut down ALL the trees to eliminate CO2 (didn’t say it made sense) (because it doesn’t). Last question; does the colder weather contribute to derailment.
If I was you, instead of running the trains and keep putting them on the tracks, I would go ahead and check and see why the trains are derailing and fix it then run it, then you wouldn't have to leave the locomotive to freeze in the weather, cause the freezing weather could damage the locomotive, like the batteries on it.
When you rely on a little railroad, as I do to move wood pellets, you sometimes have to tolerate less than perfect track conditions. The engine was fine hanging out in the ditch while I put everything else away and let a couple Tylenol take effect. The batteries don't mind the cold that much. The engine house is unheated.
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You and 71 are just not getting along this day. lol. Oh, the frustrations. Love your videos.
😂You showed greater restraint than I would have! I would have likely tossed it a little further followed by a few choice non YT friendly words!
My back was hurting to the point of having difficulty walking at that point, so I shoved it off to the side. I went back later when I wasn't hurting so much and put it back on the track.
Me too!
What I like about your railroad is that we get to see real Derailments As it happens enlarged railroads with mostly get to see it afterwards
You'll always get the derailments as long as the camera is facing in the right direction.
Haha just like the Class A railroads do with their derailed rolling stock. "Ah we'll get it later"
I would have used the flatcar like an ambulance to get it to the shop
I might have just rerailed it again if I could have lifted it once more.
Hello Arron,
It's Steven Provost. We met at the Amherst Railway Show. Hope to come visit you this spring.. have fun with your trains .. see you soon
Volunteer work day is 20th of April.
Been there done that, only full size. Last winter was awful. Broken rail in curve hidden by snow. Dropped a GP7 in the ditch, leaning against the inner bank of the curve in a cut at about a 45 degree angle. Had to leave it a couple days to get the big hook to it.
That geep weighs a heap more than my little critter. I hope you didn't get hurt!
@@MillBrookRailroad nobody was on it. No injuries except for some wounded pride.
That's the important part. Pride heals better.
It sounded like when your chickens were saying wait for me
This is great stuff. I can't wait to see what you do next. This looks like a handy way to move heavy items around on your property.
It is quite handy, even if it was built on a shoestring budget. The track cost about $7000 to build over the course of 10 years. It's due for a rebuild in the next few years.
I have a locomotive build project coming up soon on the channel. Lots of machine shop work and fabrication.
Too much power is not enough. Cool video, thanks much!
Derailing like the big trains
You have the best camera views!
Thanks!
That was a bad one, Aaron. Hope your runs get better. Hang in there.😊
Believe me, I know your pain too well. In our case railroad cars derail because the rails get wonky in winter and the springs can't compensate. When that happens it helps to ad some weight. The locos are luckily heavy enough.
This winter has wreaked havoc on the track.
I read thru the comments first :) #71's antics are very reminiscent of the 'issues' I was recently experiencing in 'O' gauge. That is, attempting to run European 2-rail (thus skinny treads and small flanges), two-axle boxcars (thus long-wheelbase) on Lionel track :D They were okay on the tangent...except for one track section they absolutely _hated_ ...and derailed exactly the way #71 did :D. I suspect I'll find wide gauge _and_ a dip in that spot too.
(disclaimer: I knew what I was getting into with that equipment. I expect to engineer a workaround eventually)
For a second there I thought you had a white chicken inside the locomotive lol
Looks nice with both engines
I always enjoy seeing the Mill Brook in action and especially like your run by scenes. The 71 seems to be a lot less surefooted than the 70.
Give 71 a break, she's young and inexperienced. :-)
70 turns 14 this year, by the way. That's 14 years of little improvements and one major rebuild on a locomotive that someone else built.
Nice work
71 seems to be heading for the ditch more than standard today.
Maybe I should stop cleaning it with alcohol.
Aaron it might be just the angle, but “the generic engine “ chain looked loose ! do you still
have the wide gauge area in horse shoe curve? 9:50 for the chain view. it is great you were
able to transport the pellets, and unload with out any troubles! yes everything is up in price!
making it to the point you have to choose what to purchase or hold off on till the next pay
check. it is sad how everything is so much more! especially gas, natural gas, wood , electricity,
trash removal, water food! etc. oh well hope things change with the next administration.
Years ago, I was a political junkie. I consulted candidates and helped campaigns. I got burned out on that game. None of the parties suit me anymore.
Rather than seek out a political point of view nowadays, I seek out the truth in current events. Sometimes, it's hard to find, other times impossible. Sometimes, I get lucky and find it. Sometimes, the truth is reassuring, and sometimes it's unsettling, other times horrific. The more local an issue, the easier it is to find the truth. Sometimes.
People are complicated. I'll go back to the trains and the cats now.
@@MillBrookRailroad once there was cats and trains, named Chessie and Katy.
Ain't capitalism grand? If only commerce had anything to do with the government... It ain't called "free trade" for nothin'! I still don't know how people can't understand that...
@mustachemike802 I do like me some capitalism. Without money and trade, the whole world would derail as much as some of my plow trains.
@@MillBrookRailroad
politics will make you gray, cross eyed, and just crazy! the sad part is, that it went from service
to the people of this nation, to what is in it for me. with the power of money, nothing is safe,
or off limits with some people. you are so correct, there is nothing better then curling up
with a furry friend and having a “purr therapy” session! that unconditional love and companionship
just makes my day! calming and peaceful to have a cat next to you, or laying and purring like
“a big rig diesel “ making you feel so good! if it is possible to fix local ,then it might work on the national
level. but who really knows.Thank you for the great note Aaron, take care and be safe out there!
I have seen this problem with model trains so I think it could be the thing here as well. The couplers need to have enough slop back and forth side to side especially when attached to another similar loco or rail car. So besides the left and right swing maybe there needs to be a sliding side to side ability with some light shocks on that motion to keep it normally centered. also up and own coupler sliding has to happen as well. Great show of not blowing up at it.
There's plenty of movement in the coupler pockets. This engine does fine most of the time. The rails were too far apart and the wheels on 71 are narrower than the rest.
0:05, I like Greene Team pellets. 😋😋
I wish I had a train like that to haul my pellets into the house. But, it's only 75 feet, so, I guess a hand cart will have to do.
At least a 75 foot long railroad would be easy to maintain.
@@MillBrookRailroad More fun than a hand cart. If I were to put in a rail line like that it would be around the house and back yard. Grandson would be ecstatic.
When was Lil kid all way want one mini train I still do want one mini train
I build them. Millbrookrailroad.com
You might consider checking the gauge on the wheels of 71. The 70 and flat car all ran without problems, so just thinking it could be wide gauge on the wheels??? Nice ride along!!!
The gauge of the wheels are fine. They're just on the narrow side on 71. Still within spec, though. The wheels on 70 are Tom Bee wheels. They're a bit on the wide side. The flat car has 2.5" scale wheels, so they're extra wide.
Hey Aaron ever thought about making 70/71 a 0/4/2/0 setup might help with the derailments
And I know that cannonball has a good set of power trucks and wheels sets that you might want to look into
I just think 71 is angry because he doesn't has the nice outfit as 70 has. Give it some more TLC and it will behave better.
Cool hobby sir
Thanks!
back to the drawing board with 71
No. Back to the track repairs. 71 was built with some quality control measures in place. 70 was not. Two different manufacturers.
Not the frog, nor track, rails, ties, ballast, gauge. Real culprit is her blindness !
Without any headlight to show her where´s the track, she missed it .
Easy for her to follow. As a leader she failed and fell.
Unhappy Aaron put her aside. So she can think and ponder her bad attitude. Left alone in that cold snow bank, she cryied her acid tear drops. Now, all wet, she´ll need pampers to soak those sad drops.
Life ain´t easy on the track.....
Hope Aaron´s back is fine. ❤
It'll be fine. It's only a herniated disc and a pinched nerve root. As long as I'm careful, I stay off the ground.
Not a millbrook video without a derailment! :) you decided to outdo yourself and take this one to the next level!
Is the shell on 71 bIgger than 70 or is the whole engine bigger, thus the shell is bigger? I thought they were the same engine design?
The 71 is inspired by the concept and design of the 70, but it's bigger in every dimension. The only parts they share are the electronic parts, the bearings, and some of the sprockets. 71 is the beta prototype for a production run locomotive I've been working on. There is still work to do to make it perfect, but few people will encounter the tie failure rate I'm experiencing at the moment. The major reason for all the derailments is the track itself. All those spots I derailed on were wide gauging out beyond the length of the track gauge. The 70 seems to have stayed on because the wheels came from a different supplier, and the tread is slightly wider than 71's.
70 was made by someone else.
Wonderful! Why derailed? Nice having a real _working_ railroad.
The rails were too far apart, and that engine has the narrowest tread in the train.
I apologize if this has been asked/covered in another video, how do you operate both engines, do you simply use the same radio frequency or is there a physical wired connection between the two?
This RR must be related to the E&LS....Derail!!! lol
More like the ES&D.
I would have pulled the load a little bit further. Let the railroad do the walking. Are the switches spring loaded or remote controled?
What was the deal with it derailing so much ? A bad flange maybe !
I'm also wondering if it's a flange issue
Not a flange issue. It comes off on the same spots. A recent track inspection revealed some wide gauging in those spots. Why 70 didn't have a problem is beyond me. Maybe the wheels are slightly wider. The 105 is a 2.5" scale narrow gauge flat car. It has wide wheel treads, so it's much more forgiving.
@@MillBrookRailroad oh ok glad that it's just the track gauge cheaper repair . Yes it is strange but as frustrating isn't it .
@@MillBrookRailroad Might be time to enlist the help of a machinist buddy and see if he/she can't turn you up a special set of wheels with wider treads? Or just buy some I guess.
why are your tracks so rough? compared to others i see you at, and you don't seem to have the trouble on them as you do on home track
The other tracks don't run in winter, they don't see the tonnage I run on mine, and they all have heavier rail than what I have.
Is it a wheel gauge problem ? And what were the locos based off of
Ya gotta do whatcha gotta do..............
You need a couple scale RJ Corman dozers.
better put more trackmen on! lol
I did not have my audio up, Spring switches.
would you ever make a two truck loco? maybe even have it gas powered.
I'm not opposed to building a 2 truck loco, but gas is a lot of work to build and maintain. Electric is easier and a lot more reliable.
What's up with the other one, Aaron? Suspension too stiff?
The wheels are slightly narrower, but still in tolerance. Different wheel suppliers.
@@MillBrookRailroad - Hmmm.. Even if they are narrow, that wouldn't explain the propensity to derail on something other than a switch. Just reminds me of a 4-wheel scale test car we handled once. The car had been overhauled but the tolerances in the pedestals was too tight. Ergo, there was virtually no suspension. Just four stiff wheels and it loved to climb over the outside rail.
Is leaving her in the ditch a bit of RR "time out"?
Sure! Let's go with that.
It looks like some of your tracks needs some help they are a little rough in spots
I hadn't noticed. ;-)
I guess that #71 didn't feel like working today. Take that, you naughty engine; lie in the cold snow until I decide to come for you! Reminds me of a Shining Time Station scene when Gordon fell into a ditch. Good grief, Charlie Brown.😎😤🚂🚃🚃🚃✝
Hello Mill BROOK’
Vos tracteurs sont ils couplés par la même télécommande pour fonctionner ou un était en fonction !?
Les locomotives sont reliées par la même radiocommande. Vous pouvez coupler plusieurs récepteurs de locomotive avec un seul émetteur.
Did you figure out why it kept derailing?
Yes. The rails had spread. 71 has narrower wheels than the 70, so it's more prone to wide gauging.
@ookRailroad RMI has nice WIDE tread wheels, maybe you should consider a wheel change out on 71 if it's to be a Home Road engine. Then not worry too much about wide gauge track until EVERYthing starts falling off the rails...
Speed kills
You'd be surprised how often real railroads would go "eh... screw it" and leave derailed locomotives and cars where they lay, as opposed to trying to fix them.
I used to work for a shortline. You're absolutely right.
@@MillBrookRailroad In the past, with model railroads I've built, I'll take old, or scrap box rolling stock, and weather them and position them in the underbrush around parts of my railroad, to simulate that very idea. The most fun one I did, was to take the shell of a locomotive I'd used as a donor for another model, and detail it like it'd rolled a rail and got shoved off into the bush, only to have its prime mover cut out of it and salvaged, and the rest of the engine just left to rust.
What was wrong with the ground happy running loco?
The rails had spread out beyond tolerance, and the wheels are on the narrow side.
@@MillBrookRailroad Shit. I was involved in correcting such a track issue on a veteran railroad bofore anything derailed. Tolerances, max and min, are good to maintain.....
We have a wood pellet plants about 35 miles from us. It’s in Mississippi but all the pellets are shipped over sea. 😡
At least it brings a few jobs to Mississippi. They could have built the plant off shore and shipped the wood chips to it by boat.
They been them by rail to Baton Rouge La. Put them on ships and down the Mississippi River. To England..
So how did it wreck?
The rails were too far apart and the wheels are on the narrow side.
Got a lot of comments regarding your derailment. Nothing more needs be said seems the new engine had issues but the older one did not. Huh? You must have to haul a large number of pellets if you are using that to heat your home. Has anyone ever ask about your carbon emissions from your furnace flu? Just curious. I heard Bill Gates wants to cut down ALL the trees to eliminate CO2 (didn’t say it made sense) (because it doesn’t). Last question; does the colder weather contribute to derailment.
Cold weather, split tie ends, and worn rail worked together to spread the rails. 70 handles it better because the wheels are wider.
@@MillBrookRailroad Thanks! Hope all is well with you. Where we live we may get some snow once every 10 years. Like looking at it but don’t miss it.
If I was you, instead of running the trains and keep putting them on the tracks, I would go ahead and check and see why the trains are derailing and fix it then run it, then you wouldn't have to leave the locomotive to freeze in the weather, cause the freezing weather could damage the locomotive, like the batteries on it.
When you rely on a little railroad, as I do to move wood pellets, you sometimes have to tolerate less than perfect track conditions. The engine was fine hanging out in the ditch while I put everything else away and let a couple Tylenol take effect. The batteries don't mind the cold that much. The engine house is unheated.
11:10 Just leave the engine in the ditch, ok then…
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