The only actor Eastwood called perfect (but John Wayne hated)
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Clint Eastwood thought Gene Hackman was perfect. John Wayne thought he was garbage. They never even met - but Wayne never missed a chance to tear him apart. What the hell was his problem?
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Gene Hackman has an incredible charisma. He makes all his roles shine.
Having charisma is one thing. Being a good actor doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with that. John Wayne was a movie star.
@@HeavyInstinct And Gene Hackman is the better actor !!
@@JohnFitzgerald_1879 Sorry, I don't know how I got that mixed up. I somehow thought you were arguing for John Wayne having "incredible charisma". I actually agree with you. Gene Hackman is indeed the better actor IMO. Like I said, John Wayne was a "movie star". He had a charisma that a lot of people liked but that doesn't necessarily make someone a good actor.
@@HeavyInstinct To be clear: My intention was not to critizise You. I do not to want to critizise anyone here. It is just: I am a great fan of Hackman, of most of hist films. The first one was French Connection. Hackman was incredible. Simply outstanding. I just found another post that praised Hackman for this performance.
I like a lot of Wayne-movies (not all). And I remember that John Ford said after "She wore a Yello ribbon": "Now you are an actor." Maybe. But a lot of other actors are better. Just to mention Lee Marvin.
@JohnFitzgerald_1879 Yeah I'm not saying I didn't like any of John Wayne's films. I just never found him to be a particularly good actor.
He may have been in some bad movies , but Gene Hackman never gave a bad performance, he's hands down one of the best ever.
His performance in "Uncommon Valor" was very good. It tops my list for best performance in a cheesy movie.
In the "Superman" movies he played Lex Luthor in a free and easy style with a sense of humor. Keven Spacey's portrayal in "Superman Returns" was humorless and cold.
I believe it was Arnold Schwarzenegger who said there's a difference between a movie star and an actor. Arnold said he wanted to be a movie star because he said he knew he was a terrible actor. John Wayne was a movie star and not an actor. Gene Hackman is an actor.
Good comment. Agreed.
Exactly.
So very true.
Katharine Hepburn herself spoke glowingly about what a great actor John Wayne was. Just because an actor makes it look easy doesn't mean it is easy.
@ it was easy. But it was redundant. He played them same character over and over in different costume
I agree with Clint- Hackman was perfect in The Unforgiven- but so was everything else about that movie😁
Gene Hackman is a very fine actor. His performance in 'The Conversation' was hypnotic.
John Wayne was entertaining, but Gene Hackman is a much better actor.
Hands down!
... And that's putting it nicely.
The variety of roles Hackman played so very, very well shows his range as an actor. Too bad some actors ever expressed how they actually despise other actors. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Wayne played pretty much the same personality although in different roles, but we all loved him in those roles, because we knew what to expect. With Hackman, we were always surprised and entertained very well by each perfornance.
Gene Hackman being referred to in the past tense? He's still alive.
But he's retired.
Gene Hackman plays a good villain.. He's a very solid actor...
He’s a great actor.
@@johnhoie-hj7cg I would say he developed into a great actor.
"@outlaw_80 Gene Hackman plays a good villain.. He's a very solid actor..."
Where did he play a villain?
John Wayne didn’t hate Clint he just could come to terms with the emerging trend toward extreme violence and erosion of old school morals
Very true, despite what these videos try to stir up.
It was between Hackman and Wayne, not Clint
Old school morals like racism.
@ yeah, I’m tired of all the woke racism, as well as
@@FtwSportsHovel True dat.
This one will be remembered in history. Even Hackman as Lex Luthor was great.
This is nothing more than a character assassination of John Wayne.
Wouldn't have anything to do with Wayne being a Republican would it?
@@oldfella3919 funnily enough Hackman was on Richard Nixon's Enemies List, along with Burt Lancaster, Steve McQueen and Paul Newman. John Wayne publicly supported Nixon in '68.
@@oldfella3919 You can be Republican without being a right-wing reactionary. Wayne was the latter. He also didn't like Clint Eastwood, and Eastwood is largely conservative. Wayne couldn't conscience a movie like Letters From Iwo Jima, from the Japanese point of view. Wayne was a pure jingoistic simplistic 'patriot'. He never fought in WW2, but he had a more 'manly' image than people like Jimmy Stewart, who did fight in WW2. I enjoy John Wayne movies. I don't hold his politics against his acting, but many of his fans cannot say the same about other icons of western movies.
Envy/Jealousy are the least talked about sins, but very common.
If you don't like someone who didn't do anything, you are the problem.
If you don't like them for small things, then you may just be making up any excuse to justify your hate.
calm down kathy
@@CircumlunarFeasibility
Jelly
No that's not how dislike works.
@ Then how does it work?
@@Move_I_Got_This-b3v Explain how these statements cover this video. I'm confused. Wayne could certainly be jealous of other actors. Both Eastwood and Hackman are from a younger generation than Wayne. Older folks often dislike current trends that go against what they did. Wayne also feuded with actors from his own generation. He felt he was the embodiment of a type of American way of life. It was fairly simplistic and whitewashed and endlessly flattering. Newer movies had a different take. Wayne knew his movies were like this. He just felt that was the role of movies and, therefore, felt betrayed by actors who brought a different take on U.S. history.
John Wayne calling Gene Hackman a terrible actor, when John Wayne played the SAME character his whole career.
John Wayne never saw Unforgiven. He was long dead by then.
The video doesn't say that he saw Hackman in The Unforgiven, just that he hated him. For no good reason anyone can figure out.
Exactly !
The video says John Wayne hated Hackman “and not just in Unforgiven” which pretty much is a claim that John Wayne saw that movie.
@paulhicks6667 well I guess they made a booboo then didn't they? Lol. Good catch. Still sounds like John Wayne didn't care for Hackman. Unforgiven not withstanding.
No one can really say that John Wayne disliked anyone, he definitely had a different view point than Eastwood on Westerns. None of the characters Eastwood portrayed or any film he directed had any redeeming qualities they were the antithesis to the type of man John Wayne tried to portray.
Gene Hackman's performance as Popeye Doyle is up there with the very best, maybe THE best
Really? I believe that is the very performance Wayne hated so much. Hackman chews the scenery in that film more than almost anyone ever.
Hackman was a much better actor later in his career.
Hackman took the high road-sign of a smart and classy guy.You cannot win an argument with a ghost of someone who was cherished by millions.Besides-everyone is welcome to their own opinion,whether you agree with it or not.
Always amazed when people kick the dead knowing they cannot stand up and give their side.
I know. They really are kicking that Hitler guy around now and he just can't defend himself.
Hackman was awesome in The Conversation.
John Wayne died many years before Unforgiven, Learn your History.
"John Wayne couldn't stand Hackman. And not just in Unforgiven."
Not just in Unforgiven...???
I don't think Wayne was doing much movie watching in 1992, considering he died in 1979.
Wayne was a rabid reactionary and probably didn't like Hackman because he was a liberal. Also, unlike Wayne, Hackman actually served in the military (and was decorated) which probably stuck in Wayne's craw.
Gene Hackman was one of my favourite actors. John Wayne always played John Wayne and Hackman didn’t. And Hackman served, while Wayne dodged WWII, but had the hubris to “act” in several war films.
Probably unfair to say Wayne dodged WWII. I’ve read it wasn’t that cut and dried. Don’t get me wrong, I was not a big fan. While he did have a big screen presence, he tended to do the same thing again and again. Some of those films were better done than others, granted, but still it was a bit hackneyed for me. He could’ve done more interesting things, but he didn’t really want to. I think for 2 reasons: he wanted to keep doing the tried and true … why take risks when it worked so well for him professionally? And, he was not that imaginative to want to try something off the beaten path. He was essentially conservative in his approach to his craft, and I’m not talking politics.
Morgan Freeman described Gene Hackman as a great great actor. he said in the movie unforgiven that when Hackman’s character said, I’m gonna hurt you. I believed him.
besides unforgiven and many more, the French connection and Mississippi burning were brilliant imho.
This is bullshit. John wayne didn't like him in unforgiven? he never watched unforgiven...and they never worked togheter
He died 13 years before Unforgiven was made.
You didn't watch this video did you? Lol. They never say he did in the video. In fact they say right up front the two never meet. But Wayne never liked Hackman as an actor. A testament verified by Wayne's own daughter
He is by far the best Lex Luther ever on screen.
John Wayne had no business critiquing anyone's acting, as he never acted in his life; he played John Wayne in every single role. Which is fine; there is room for both actors and movie stars.
That's like saying Humphrey Bogart played Humphrey Bogart in every role or Bette Davis played Bette Davis in every role.
@@porflepopnecker4376 Decades ago, Katharine Hepburn told the young Anthony Hopkins not to focus on method, but to just recite the lines; she herself made most of a career of doing just that. A young actor named Archie Leach was hired to play the recurring persona of Cary Grant, and John Wayne himself admitted that he, Marion Michael Morrision, was hired to be John Wayne. Schwarzenegger has been playing himself since day one. As I said, there is room for movie stars as well as character actors.
@ not true...Bogart could play tough guys and criminals and good guys and even wimps. When did Wayne act anything other than a tough guy.
People attack those who can’t defend them selves.
we go ours believe he was any thing else
John Wayne wasn't even alive when "Unforgiven" was released
John Wayne insulting Gene Hackman's acting ability... That's just rich to say the least.
Hackman didn't like racists and bigots, he made that perfectly clear to Wayne. Wayne took offense to it because that meant Hackman didn't like Wayne. As a person.
Agreed.
Hackman can portray 'menace' in a way that few other could.
I believe that in 'The Unforgiven', Morgan Freeman stated that the character played by Hackman actually frightened him.
Looking back, Wayne was a Cardboard Cutout in comparison.
Eastwood's very favourite actor growing up was James Cagney who, coincidently, was Hackman's favourite as a kid also.... they have stated this in many interviews.
Gene Hackman 😊👍
Every time I hear John Wayne's name I think of John Ford's unending dig at Wayne.
John Ford filmed the Battle of Midway. Any film you ever see of that attack on the island is his. Not his last combat, just his first. He didn't like Wayne saying his age and family obligations prevented him from serving as many in Wayne's situation did make those sacrifices, some making the ultimate sacrifice. Though friendly before WWII John Ford lost respect for Wayne, though they continued to work together. Ford took this dig at Wayne, anytime he saw Wayne in a Military uniform in a movie whether Wayne was present or not.
THAT'S THE ONLY TIME THAT COWARDLY SOB WORE A UNIFORM, IN THE MOVIES.
Wayne was stupid, he had one character and only got an Oscar in sympathy, Hackman was great, maybe the GOAT.
Well, Gene Hackman is damn good, no question.
Sounds like John Wayne was jealous.
What a disappointment that Wayne would say such things. When I was growing up, he was a huge draw and I enjoyed his movies. Later, as Hackman made more and more movies, I enjoyed them, too. To be honest, I don't think of Hackman as the perfect actor (who could be?), but he certainly gave some great performances. Both men had charisma and exuded it in their roles. Sometimes people just need to be thankful for the opportunities afforded them and not be critical of others who made the most of their own opportunities.
Pure clickbait! John Wayne died years before Unforgiven was made. He never worked with Gene Hackman.
A.I. ….
John Wayne played John Wayne in every single movie he ever made. No matter the subject, no matter the costume, no matter the genre. Hackman can live peacefully without worrying about what John Wayne thought of his acting.
That's like saying Humphrey Bogart played Humphrey Bogart in every role or Bette Davis played Bette Davis in every role.
Very well said! I couldn't possibly agree more. John Wayne would have been wise to take acting lessons from Gene Hackman.
@ So, what's your point?
@@guyrose6602What's who's point? Your comment doesn't say who you're replying to.
@@HeavyInstinct sorry about that. You Tube is acting strange on me. I was responding to whoever said that Humphrey Bogart and Bette Davis played themselves in every role. They did. They were extremely popular, but not necessarily great actors.
The reasons Wayne hated Hackman was because Hackman was a better actor and a genuine tough guy, unlike Wayne who, when WW II came along, grabbed a deferment.
Oh goody, let's contrive a stupid reason to be pointlessly negative about John Wayne again. Yay.
So you're saying John Wayne didn't say these things about Gene Hackman?
Hackman was a Marine John Wayne played a Marine Guilt
Nonesense!!!!
Different era I know. But I never understood the publics love affair with John Wayne .
A good chunk of the public likes simplistic portrayals in entertainment, be it in movies, music, or even politics. Too bad real life is so darn messy and complex.
John Wayne was dead well over a decade before Unforgiven was even filmed!,🤣
Love them both.. sorry The Duke held disdain like that?!
Actors are human beings. Who'da thunk it?
John Wayne can’t be considered a great actor unless you consider changing costumes acting. John Wayne played John Wayne in every role.
Hackman was always amazing. Think Mississippi burning.
John Wayne not. His body was big but he was small inside of it.
The quote is second hand from John Wayne's daughter. There's no rhyme or reason given. Both actors are/were great in the roles they played so, I would take this with a grain of salt.
John Wayne hated the guy who was the consumate actor because Wayne himself was never an actor. . . just a movie star playing the guy he wanted to be. Hackman responds to the hatred by carefully complimenting John Wayne without actually lying. Note that he complimented his "charisma" and his "command of the screen." Hackman is a class act. Probably another reason Wayne hated him.
I couldn't possibly agree more. Gene Hackman makes John Wayne look like someone who's never acted a day in his life.
John Wayne was a two-chord rock song. Hackman was a real actor.
I like John Wayne, but never cared for his acting.
The done thing nowadays to talk about insulting and humiliating someone who's not there. Nonsense. An insult is something nasty you say to someone. If you say something nasty about someone, it's slander.
Slander is making an objectively false statement about someone else. Wayne calling Hackman "a bad actor" is an opinion, which is subjective, and therefore cannot be considered slander. If he'd said, "Hackman stole money from me", and he couldn't prove it, that would be slander.
@@davidjorgensen877
Indeed, although slander may also be mere defamation (depending on the dictionary), which one may say Mr Wayne would be guilty of if he uttered his criticism in public, which he perhaps never did. Let us then say he was guilty merely of criticism, which in the modern world is equal to hatred and insult, which is absurd. My main point is, however, that one cannot insult or humiliate someone in that person's absence.
If any of this is true...which we don't know, Wayne made his comments while Hackman was, and is still alive, but apparently he never made them in public. Saying something nasty about someone, doesn't describe slander. Saying someone is a bad actor, is merely an opinion.
Of course wayne or duke didnt like Clint because Clint did it better
Grew up on westerns for years. Always thought Wayne was overrated despite Shane being critically acclaimed.
Are you sure you've got the right movie? Alan Ladd played the lead in Shane. Are you thinking of Stagecoach? That's the John Ford film that made Wayne a star.
@ oh maybe mate, it was a very long time ago
He was extremely overrated in my opinion. Never really cared for him as an actor.
hack is awesome in everything Wayne is awesome in everything two different styles Wayne was wrong on this it was a politics a conservative vs liberal thing I truly hate it when actors or athletes drag politics into their trade
John Wayne didn't hate Clint Eastwood. I've seen this BS several times it isn't true. Both parties stated they would have worked together but nothing came there way that worked for both of them.
Wayne did say he didn't like "High planes Drifter", as history showed town in the old days would band together, but never bashed any of the actors in the film. Oh and saying he didn't like unforgivin...... that's how to tell me you don't know what you're talking about, without telling me you don't know what you're talking about.
If John Wayne hated him, he must be great.
John Wayne hated Hitler. Does that make Hitler great?
"@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 If John Wayne hated him, he must be great."
What a stupid comment. All that tells the reader is your politics, Red Liz.
Wait a minute ..... John Wayne was already DEAD when Unforgiven was made, I thought. This idiot says "not just for Unforgiven...."
. . . . What am I missing here. ?
Wayne, like many good entertainers, was a real jerk!😊
Wayne, for all the hoopla, was, and forgive me, a one trick pony. Just try to watch his versión of Gengis Kahn. I daré you no to cringe. He was fortunate to find a director that understood how to use his cardboard performances.
In France John Wayne is not considered as a great actor.
How would Wayne know Hackman was a great actor, Wayne played only one character in all him movies, John Wayne. It didn't matter if he was a war hero, a cop hero, or a cowboy hero, he was the same. By far the most overrated performer ever. Hackman was the opposite, like all great actors, he could play any role to perfection. That's what acting is.
the duke was jealous.
Jealous of what ???
@@dougreed2257jealous of Gene Hackman being an immensely better actor than he was.
John Wayne, that well known American racist. Somebody below mentions old school morals - yep, that him all right.
Coming From Who John Wayne? He wishes he could act like Hackman
John Wayne was a bag of hot air and no hero. He avoided military service but talked a good story. Hackman was a professional.
I’m sure it was political
What a stupid thread. Most or all of the people insulting John Wayne are just like like the critics of his day. Wayne said, "They don't review my pictures, they review my politics." Ditto for Hackman. Most or all of you are "liberals" (communists/racial socialists) and you know Hackman shares your politics. Ergo, HE was the vastly superior actor. Heck, some of you don't even realize that in Unforgiven (not The Unforgiven, idiot!), Hackman was the hero! You people are morons.
Wayne was mostly the same,gene h,far better actor john.c.😊
John Wayne has no range
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I much, much, much prefer Hackman to Wayne.
hackman was good too bad his looks were so poor
Eastwood is a realist , he believes the many historian have said the early cowboys were pragmatic creatures less a saint but a sinner most of the time. The exact opposite of John Wayne's protrays them. One example why didn't John Wayne take a role in one those O.K. corral movies . Because it shows how pragmatic cowboys were.
Streep is an actress , not an actor.
Either is acceptable. Actor is considered to be a gender-neutral term.
Interesting comment from John Wayne, a one-trick movie star, who sounded jealous of Hackman.
Clint was not an actor.
I agree with Wayne about Hackman.
....funny.......i have the same opinion of Wayne that he had about Hackman..........
fake bs
John Wayne portrayed only one character.... John Wayne. He was great at this role, but lacked versatility. Wayne's portrayals of German naval officers was poor indeed and his attempt to play Gengis Khan was terrible. If you want to talk about a truly great actor, consider Telly Savalas.
We all know Telly from his tv show "Kojak',but yeah,he really was a superb actor.Made a lot of great films through the 1960s/70s.
Hackman was a ham.
Lol that's ridiculous! However you couldn't have picked a more perfect term to describe John Wayne's acting.
@@HeavyInstinct When did John Wayne ham it up?
@@jakespoon5549When did he not? His delivery never felt natural or realistic to me. Always looked like someone trying to act. Look up what it means to refer to an actor or performance as "wooden". That's John Wayne in my opinion.
John Wayne was jealous of Hackman's acting ability. Hackman has played a wide variety of roles, with widely varying kinds of characters. Wayne on the other hand did a good job of playing John Wayne playing John Wayne playing a role that written for his narrow window of acting ability. And Hackman served his country as a United States Marine. Wayne went out of his way to avoid service, even when his friend John Ford has a fix for Wayne to go into Ford's unit making training films.
Wayne was a total fake, and fraud.
Bollocks!! Hackman did NOT have waynes screen prescence😮
@@dougreed2257You're mistaking hamming it up for "screen presence". There was nothing natural or believable about his performances.
"@@HeavyInstinct You're mistaking hamming it up for "screen presence". There was nothing natural or believable about his performances."
You have no idea what you're talking about. Wayne only hammed it up when the role called for it. There were scenes in True Grit when he hammed it up, and yet there were scenes in the same picture when he played sweet and restrained, or straight down the middle. Ditto for any number of other pictures (The Quiet Man). The Cowboys. You'll recall the final scene between him and Lauren "Betty" Bacall in The Shootist. And he didn't ham it up at all in She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, or How the West was Won.
Oh, but you have no bloody idea what I'm talking about, because you never saw True Grit, The Quiet Man, The Cowboys, The Shootist, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, How the West was Won, or anything else he ever did!
@HeavyInstinct thats your opinion,which you are entitled to😊
@@nstix2009xitsn I'm 57 years old. I've seen every movie you're talking about. Grew up with parents and grandparents that watched his movies on cable TV all the time and am a film buff myself. It might be hard to believe but I just plain disagree with you. Sure he didn't "ham it up" all the time but is delivery almost always felt wooden to me.
Wayne was clueless about acting. He was a movie star not an actor.
Jw just jealous .