If you're interested in seeing some territory wrestling, and you have the WWE Network, you can check out Mid Atlantic, World Class and Mid South. Also, you can find a lot on RUclips; I recommend the following: Georgia, Florida, Memphis, Southeast aka Continental, Houston, Pacific Northwest and Smoky Mountain
@@stevehogan9958 I have actually watched few of these shows on wwe network but couldn't get time to watch all of it bcoz of timing... I will watch them though.. Do you think I should watch start from beginning or just watch the best years of respective territory?bcoz tbh, I was watching 1981 mid south,I was kinda bored!!!tbh
@@stevehogan9958 wow!!!thank you!!!where can I watch florida and Georgia territories bcoz they r not in youtube,I guess. Also memphis and cwa are same?
@@abcsin6526 Yes, Memphis has also been called the CWA. For GA, try Georgia Championship Wrestling or GCW, and for FL, Championship Wrestling from Florida or CWF
Dundee didn't hot shot Mid South. Business was flat and Dundee booked with some great new talent. The business in Mid South went south due to the oil business of that time and area.
Such nonsense. He absolutely hot shotted the promotion AND Mid South died for the same reason all the territories died, they're was ZERO chance a talent could make more there than in WWE....and like Crockett, like WCW, it could not survive with even the slightest dip in business. Why doesn't Dusty get the excuse of the market crash of 1987? Why doesn't Bischoff get the excuse of the tech bubble bursting? Oh no, but the buffoon Watts is excused... Corny needs everybody in Memphis to be Gods. The truth is Mid South took a hit when JYD left and Watt's was clueless, having been blessed with a ton of talent who thrived despite him...and Dundee went full Russo. There's a reason nobody's hired him for creative since 1985...
I was in the locker room with Bill Dundee back in mid-00s and he tells a story of how he accidentally invented the 3 way match in MSW after a booking confusion
3 days have been around since the early 70’s. Rare match type but it was used a few times, I'm not sure if it happened first here in the states or if it was on the Japan cross promotional show but I'm sure it wouldn't take much time to figure it out. It's still not a match a lot of companies like to go too which is weird cuz if done right it's really good
@@BSultimate The Hogan/Sting angle wasn't hotshotted. It literally went on for a full year. What fucked it up was WCW got Bret Hart and instead of going with the original plan they had in place, they had to plug Bret Hart into it at the end.
@@BSultimate that was worse than not putting Hogan vs Goldberg on a PPV. Sting should have went over the way they set it up but Hogan called that horrible audible in the ring & had Nick change the way he was supposed to count the leg drop pin.
@@BSultimate but worse than even that was the fact that Sting should have just went over clean af to begin with. No shenanigans & no outside interference from anybody.
In the Mid-South territory at that point, only Oklahoma and maybe some of the extreme western part of Louisiana(Sheveport) had ever seen WCCW. The only way most in the territory had ever heard of the VonErichs was in the Wrestling magazines. When some of the VonErichs came to my hometown, people would have had no idea had they not shown a short highlight video on Mid-South TV. If you missed that very few knew who they were.
That's not necessarily true, people that had the old Satellite dishes and most cable could watch WCCW in 82-83. I lived in the Alexandria area, we watched WCCW every Saturday night @11 pm
You can see WWF in the mid 80s (really obvious with the first few Wrestlemanias) was largely built around one or two matches with a ton of random, short, meaningless matches on the undercard. In the late 90s they moved toward having 4 or 5 matches with angles and maybe only 2 or 3 random unannounced matches.
If by that you mean sometimes reliable and sometimes with an agenda to defend friends/mentors and attack enemies/detractors and unreliable as in this clip...then yep, Corny is wrestling's wikipedia...
UWF / Mid South Wrestling did a Battle Of New Orleans similar to the Tupelo concessionstand brawl angle like they did in Memphis in 1979 for their main event back in 1987 .
Making a snide comment about Ted Dibiase's drawing power isn't THAT off kilter as his run with Hogan in 87, while not bad, didn't set the world on fire.
Ted has an opinion about his level of star power and box office potential, outside the whole "Million Dollar Man" thing that was Vince McMahon's self-insert character before he became "Mr. McMahon", that is almost exclusively his own. I don't know a single person who gives a toss about anything Ted did before or without the gimmick. If you believe his interviews, he could have been the biggest star pro wrestling ever had, but _everybody,_ every promoter, every booker, everyone he worked with "sabotaged" his career. If I cared enough, I would play the world's tiniest violin for this thief and scumbag. From wrestling carny to Jesus carny. I laughed my ass off when Virgil screwed him over in real life. Couldn't have happened to a nicer scam artist.
Loved meeting Dundee in Tupelo last year, and was excited to see him this year. Despite being booked, he felt really ill and couldn't make it last weekend. Not sure what's up, just hope he gets to feeling better
I am from Ca. But i was in NC in 85, i wish i knew that these companies were still up n running back then. I would have loved to see these shows live. I only knew about wwf from early 80son tv.. its a sad thing to think about now
How can Jim recall 35 plus years ago so well? I had a virtually eidetic memory until my late 20s and now in my late 30s, I can't recall what the eff I was doing 72 hours ago.
I grew up watching Memphis wrestleing with Lawler Dundee, Lance Russell on Saturday mornings. Remember very well when Jim Cornette and his Tennis 🎾 and mammas $ showed up. My brother and I hated Jiim. He played his part great
Two things: I've always felt like Mid South started their nationwide push a year or two too late. If they had changed to the UWF in 1984 0r 85 when they still had all those hot stars and Bill Dundee's booking, they would still be around today. Secondly, I can speak to the familiarity of World Class to Oklahoma fans because I lived in Oklahoma City at the time. When UWF TV was promoted to the local CBS affiliate in 1986, World Class took their time slot on the local independent station. Fast forward a year later, when UWF folded and sold to Crockett, and OKC became a wrestling desert, who else, but Fritz came in with World Class to fill the void. It wasn't Vince McMahon at first, it was Fritz, taking over the Oklahoma territory that he probably always wanted for a long time, anyway, but Watts was in the way!
Idk man… I’m a big Last detractor, but the e-mails are always poorly written unless they’re from Charlie in Starkville Mississippi. He should read more in the vein of “Which Territory Had the Most and Fewest Marks” to expose the non-wrestling WWE/F fans.
you must keep in mind we are not seeing what is on the paper. i am certain there are spelling and gramatical errors, many of which brian can properly correct in real time.
@@reggiefields6551 I mean that's possible, but there are times where he'll read something verbatim, struggle since he's probably reading it too fast, then criticize the email even though it sounded fine when he gets through it. Like yeah sometimes the emails are a little wordy but I feel like a lot of the time what's written is fine.
When was Randy Calley aka the Nightmare North American Champion? When I hear them talk about travel in the territories I think of the Bob Seger song Turn the Page.
Who cares about modern wrestling? Nobody is watching it. "Hot shot booking" is catering to the AEW masses. Pro and con. Long term, Jim's success hinges on his knowledge as a historian.
Great example of the obsessive love of distinctions without a difference...and it boils down to if Corny likes you, then you didn't hot shot or it was defensible like Dundee and Jarrett, but if it's not a friend or if he goes Olivia Soprano when she tells Junior, she doesn't know Christopher's friend, then it definitely happened or was indefensible...
I been watching Mid South to see what Cornette has been raving about, and its terrible, it sucks..... Bill Dundee was garbage, he looks like crap, he is small, he couldnt talk and couldn't wrestle.
These Trips down Memory Lane with Jim Cornette are always a Blast … 🔥
Cornette discusses booking and bookers in the territories?
*CLICK*
what does it mean???...
I m a guy who started watching wrestling in 2003 and didnt know about the past but listening to these stories on territory days booking is amazing..
If you're interested in seeing some territory wrestling, and you have the WWE Network, you can check out Mid Atlantic, World Class and Mid South. Also, you can find a lot on RUclips; I recommend the following: Georgia, Florida, Memphis, Southeast aka Continental, Houston, Pacific Northwest and Smoky Mountain
@@stevehogan9958 I have actually watched few of these shows on wwe network but couldn't get time to watch all of it bcoz of timing... I will watch them though.. Do you think I should watch start from beginning or just watch the best years of respective territory?bcoz tbh, I was watching 1981 mid south,I was kinda bored!!!tbh
@@stevehogan9958 wow!!!thank you!!!where can I watch florida and Georgia territories bcoz they r not in youtube,I guess. Also memphis and cwa are same?
@@abcsin6526 Yes, Memphis has also been called the CWA. For GA, try Georgia Championship Wrestling or GCW, and for FL, Championship Wrestling from Florida or CWF
Oh, and for Memphis, also look for a RUclips channel called Armstrong Alley
Dundee didn't hot shot Mid South. Business was flat and Dundee booked with some great new talent. The business in Mid South went south due to the oil business of that time and area.
Such nonsense. He absolutely hot shotted the promotion AND Mid South died for the same reason all the territories died, they're was ZERO chance a talent could make more there than in WWE....and like Crockett, like WCW, it could not survive with even the slightest dip in business. Why doesn't Dusty get the excuse of the market crash of 1987? Why doesn't Bischoff get the excuse of the tech bubble bursting? Oh no, but the buffoon Watts is excused...
Corny needs everybody in Memphis to be Gods. The truth is Mid South took a hit when JYD left and Watt's was clueless, having been blessed with a ton of talent who thrived despite him...and Dundee went full Russo. There's a reason nobody's hired him for creative since 1985...
@@78bcat Those brutal drives in Mid-South weekly didn't help either. You can't forget how hard travel was then.
Yay this is my question. Apologies for the awkward first sentence.
Don't apologize, man. You're fine. Brian can be a dick
@@stevehogan9958 can be he is lol
@@GraveMemories 😄
I'm starting to believe Brian is slightly "on the spectrum" also. I've read tweets he's read just fine without all the stops and pauses.
Are you slow ? A winder liquor ?
I was in the locker room with Bill Dundee back in mid-00s and he tells a story of how he accidentally invented the 3 way match in MSW after a booking confusion
3 days have been around since the early 70’s. Rare match type but it was used a few times, I'm not sure if it happened first here in the states or if it was on the Japan cross promotional show but I'm sure it wouldn't take much time to figure it out. It's still not a match a lot of companies like to go too which is weird cuz if done right it's really good
I grew up on Memphis, UWF and WCCW, then to NWA. Best times ever….
There are a number of smaller- not necessarily outlaw mud show- promotions that showcase some decent matches. Have a look around on RUclips.
I grew up on NWA,WWF,Mid-South/UWF, WCCW & when I moved to Memphis,I started getting into that
@@jonathancarlson6127 no "mud show" has decent matches. That's why they're categorized as mud shows. Take AEW for example lol
@@HBKStyles He said that they weren't mud show promotions. Unlike AEW
Same here
The thumbnail has Superstar with the thumbs up. That could be the most spot on caricature I've ever seen.
I’ve lived in Tulsa all my life. It was Danny hodge first , then mid south , then Uwf. I went every Monday nite. Religiously.
I loved Ted Dibiase in this era with the black glove
82 DiBiase, after he turned Heel, was some of the best Heel work of all time.
I agree. Always liked this incarnation way more than the Million Dollar Man
Speaking of hotshotting, Bischoff blowing a huge PPV main event with Goldberg & Hogan in 98
I think fucking up the Hogan / Sting angle was more egregious
@@BSultimate I have to agree.
@@BSultimate The Hogan/Sting angle wasn't hotshotted. It literally went on for a full year. What fucked it up was WCW got Bret Hart and instead of going with the original plan they had in place, they had to plug Bret Hart into it at the end.
@@BSultimate that was worse than not putting Hogan vs Goldberg on a PPV.
Sting should have went over the way they set it up but Hogan called that horrible audible in the ring & had Nick change the way he was supposed to count the leg drop pin.
@@BSultimate but worse than even that was the fact that Sting should have just went over clean af to begin with. No shenanigans & no outside interference from anybody.
I cannot wait to hear Jim’s reaction to Jericho and Nick Gage
It’s going to be an epic rant. I just hope he doesn’t make it political somehow..
tthe bank addicted drug robber and the ayatollah of cake and pie...
In the Mid-South territory at that point, only Oklahoma and maybe some of the extreme western part of Louisiana(Sheveport) had ever seen WCCW. The only way most in the territory had ever heard of the VonErichs was in the Wrestling magazines. When some of the VonErichs came to my hometown, people would have had no idea had they not shown a short highlight video on Mid-South TV. If you missed that very few knew who they were.
That's not necessarily true, people that had the old Satellite dishes and most cable could watch WCCW in 82-83. I lived in the Alexandria area, we watched WCCW every Saturday night @11 pm
Take a shot every time they say “hotshotting” in this clip. Pun intended.
Without the description i would have thought that was elvis in the picture.
Corny on the scaffold is Travis' best work ever......I feel my ACL hurting right now.
You can see WWF in the mid 80s (really obvious with the first few Wrestlemanias) was largely built around one or two matches with a ton of random, short, meaningless matches on the undercard. In the late 90s they moved toward having 4 or 5 matches with angles and maybe only 2 or 3 random unannounced matches.
This is stuff i love to listen to..we all know current product is crap..Jim is awesome listening to reviewing AEW..etc but this is the good stuff
Awesome Shoot Today Jim!!😎🐐🐐
I really enjoy listening to these old stories..You guys are the Jordan/Pippen of podcasts!
Jim Cornette is the Wikipedia of Wrestling.
If by that you mean sometimes reliable and sometimes with an agenda to defend friends/mentors and attack enemies/detractors and unreliable as in this clip...then yep, Corny is wrestling's wikipedia...
UWF / Mid South Wrestling did a Battle Of New Orleans similar to the Tupelo concessionstand brawl angle like they did in Memphis in 1979 for their main event back in 1987 .
Corny said they did a record house with "The Last Stampede" but what about "The First Stampede"?
Making a snide comment about Ted Dibiase's drawing power isn't THAT off kilter as his run with Hogan in 87, while not bad, didn't set the world on fire.
Ted has an opinion about his level of star power and box office potential, outside the whole "Million Dollar Man" thing that was Vince McMahon's self-insert character before he became "Mr. McMahon", that is almost exclusively his own. I don't know a single person who gives a toss about anything Ted did before or without the gimmick.
If you believe his interviews, he could have been the biggest star pro wrestling ever had, but _everybody,_ every promoter, every booker, everyone he worked with "sabotaged" his career.
If I cared enough, I would play the world's tiniest violin for this thief and scumbag. From wrestling carny to Jesus carny. I laughed my ass off when Virgil screwed him over in real life. Couldn't have happened to a nicer scam artist.
He wasn’t that interesting to be honest. Good on the mic, but meh in the ring. Pretty boring tbh, with an average body.
Loved meeting Dundee in Tupelo last year, and was excited to see him this year. Despite being booked, he felt really ill and couldn't make it last weekend. Not sure what's up, just hope he gets to feeling better
UWF was amazing that sting face turn was top notch quality.
I just saw the thumbnail with Bill Dundee, and I almost shit my pants. Great Artwork!
Saw this and clicked so fast I dropped my phone.
Tony Khan should bring in Dundee to book AEW.
Wrestling and Glasgow rangers were my life for about 16 year lolol
Detroit and The Sheik just worked.
I loved Superstar Bill Dundee as a kid, my first favorite wrestler. I thought he was great at creating believable storylines
Jim managed it, to also make all those commericals legendary and a must-hear.
Walking my dog 🐕 listening!!!!
I am from Ca. But i was in NC in 85, i wish i knew that these companies were still up n running back then. I would have loved to see these shows live. I only knew about wwf from early 80son tv.. its a sad thing to think about now
Where's the review for that awful Monday night Raw crap?
Greenville, Ms ‘ Mid-South Territory ‘ Wooooo!
I think randy savage is the one who sparked relations between the comic book universe and the wrestling universe with spiderman
Youve truly masterd social media video jim incredible😎
There was crossover long before that. Wrestlers appeared in comics in the eighties
Memphis hot shotted more than the entire monday night wars put together.
How can Jim recall 35 plus years ago so well? I had a virtually eidetic memory until my late 20s and now in my late 30s, I can't recall what the eff I was doing 72 hours ago.
I grew up watching Memphis wrestleing with Lawler Dundee, Lance Russell on Saturday mornings. Remember very well when Jim Cornette and his Tennis 🎾 and mammas $ showed up. My brother and I hated Jiim. He played his part great
Two things: I've always felt like Mid South started their nationwide push a year or two too late. If they had changed to the UWF in 1984 0r 85 when they still had all those hot stars and Bill Dundee's booking, they would still be around today. Secondly, I can speak to the familiarity of World Class to Oklahoma fans because I lived in Oklahoma City at the time. When UWF TV was promoted to the local CBS affiliate in 1986, World Class took their time slot on the local independent station. Fast forward a year later, when UWF folded and sold to Crockett, and OKC became a wrestling desert, who else, but Fritz came in with World Class to fill the void. It wasn't Vince McMahon at first, it was Fritz, taking over the Oklahoma territory that he probably always wanted for a long time, anyway, but Watts was in the way!
I like this new baron corbin persona crazy jim lol the broke corbin lol crazy character
Check out corbin now jim
Hes kinda going crazy started with his car towed
Surprised that shitsatin name is not said in hotshot booking with attitude era
Fire up those jet turbines
Does Brian not know how to read? Most of the "this is all over the place" emails he reads aren't that difficult to understand lol
Idk man… I’m a big Last detractor, but the e-mails are always poorly written unless they’re from Charlie in Starkville Mississippi. He should read more in the vein of “Which Territory Had the Most and Fewest Marks” to expose the non-wrestling WWE/F fans.
Have you read them? Lol
@@AnonimusGuyNamedIvan that’s because Brian writes those…..KIDDING!!! Lol
you must keep in mind we are not seeing what is on the paper. i am certain there are spelling and gramatical errors, many of which brian can properly correct in real time.
@@reggiefields6551 I mean that's possible, but there are times where he'll read something verbatim, struggle since he's probably reading it too fast, then criticize the email even though it sounded fine when he gets through it. Like yeah sometimes the emails are a little wordy but I feel like a lot of the time what's written is fine.
Tony Khan feeling seen by this conversation.
When was Randy Calley aka the Nightmare North American Champion? When I hear them talk about travel in the territories I think of the Bob Seger song Turn the Page.
'83-ish maybe? Or maybe '82. He was Moondog Rex in WWF right after whenever this was.
1985
@@maceomaceo11 it was 1985, I remember him being managed by Eddie Gilbert then Oliver Humperdink if I remember correctly.
The segue at the end into the sales pitch kills me. Pretty damn funny.
86 degrees
Hot damn, this thumbnail.
Said the same thing. Seeing that double thumbs up by Dundee sold it by a thousand percent
I live for what happens to 1% of Dream users 😂 CACAO!
1% don't wake up! CACAOOOOOOO
@@troublesomewestsideoutlaw5754 2 % had to be talked off a bridge Papao 😂
Possum king no more jim baron corbin gone nuts officially
Who cares just patiently waiting for Jim to tear that garbage crapmatch to shreds.
I care, a good portion of Jim’s audience care, in fact I don’t care about the modern wrestling stuff
Who cares about modern wrestling? Nobody is watching it. "Hot shot booking" is catering to the AEW masses. Pro and con. Long term, Jim's success hinges on his knowledge as a historian.
Dundee was like Dusty without the charisma
Great example of the obsessive love of distinctions without a difference...and it boils down to if Corny likes you, then you didn't hot shot or it was defensible like Dundee and Jarrett, but if it's not a friend or if he goes Olivia Soprano when she tells Junior, she doesn't know Christopher's friend, then it definitely happened or was indefensible...
Mid south really ?
Jericho and Cody in AEW is totally hotshot booking. They only milk Omega and the Bucks feuds, but it’s still who cares.
Heard john cena is a strong guy strong enough to lift big show with ease i like how he took it to brock tough soldier guy
Brian still can't read I see..
I been watching Mid South to see what Cornette has been raving about, and its terrible, it sucks..... Bill Dundee was garbage, he looks like crap, he is small, he couldnt talk and couldn't wrestle.
Your opinion
I'm the first viewer here😌
First!! Woohoo first time being first