I feel bad for him - he needs to pass his whole life without a person who he is in love with. Yes, she may fall in love with the man who will be next to her and who will respect her. But he will never be able to experience having a man next to him who he could love.
Nobody should be recommending mixed-orientation marriages. They cause needless pain 100% of the time and nearly always end in divorce. See the Straight Spouse Network. The stories are heart-rending. I was in one for 26 years. Much happier now married to a man for 12 years.
chaniecekinglife14 probably the first time maybe 😂, I don’t think she cares, at least he’s honest and she knows what she signed up for A lot of men have gay tendencies, even the straightest of men who have lacked some sort brotherhood or bond with men throughout their life may have tendencies towards trying to get that sexually, usually through not acknowledging the actual need for companionship Or men who have friends who don’t show any sort of affection, I don’t mean they have to cuddle or hug, just lack of authenticity and care for another even if unspoken, most guys build their relationships with other men aubcinciously around avoiding the ideas of caring for one another for fear of being seen as gay/weak .. even the ones that seem the most affectionate with the fist bumping and the constant bro word and stuff Anyways , it takes all kinds And I’m sure there is a lot more of this going on out there than people think And these guys seem to genuinely care about their wives, I know there guy 😂 but still, I think it’s a broken system that needs to be fixed from both ends , while trying to be as respectful to women while doing it , and to other men It takes all kinds, and whatever, and women actually watch gay porn as one of their top categories nowadays, a lot of them with lesbian tendencies and stuff ...just goes to show they admire and are seeking men who show affection for one another, can tell the difference of men who are respected for different reasons in society and can see through some of the veils, many variables and crap Obviously the goal isn’t a “pseudo-Eutopia” where everyone is in a straight marriage and then guys go get laid by men on saturdays or some stupid shit, Maybe for some that’s the goal, different generations of men and women struggling with different issues, some are in mentalities of past generations and some are looking towards progression for the next
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Nobody should be recommending mixed-orientation marriages. They cause needless pain 100% of the time and nearly always end in divorce. See the Straight Spouse Network. The stories are heart-rending. I was in one for 26 years. Much happier now that I have been married to a man for 12 years.
@Denise Saunders yh its a shit thing to do. Im Jamaican so if i come out i'll lose my family because of this i've always wondered if i could fake it for a lifetime with a guy. I'd never do it for real though, if you aren't attracted to someone dont string them along, no matter who you'll lose because of it don't waste another person's life like that.
Not really, I know 4 couples like that. They wanted kids and love their partner and have things in common. Most gay people have some attraction to the opposite sex. Actually most lesbian women have sex with men. Those couples I know are older and choose family over sex. Most gay people are sex and porn addicted. Even beyond hetero men according to studies.
This relationship is based on faith, not only desires. It's a commitment to refrain from the desire which goes against your faith. Both people know that when entering the marriage and the faith itself is kind of a guarantee. E.g. my faith prohibits ending my own life, so it's a taboo and you don't fantasize about that because you know the consequences of such a deed, although you might not sometimes see another way out, and still you know it's a taboo. Either your faith is worth it to you or it is not. Of course, a very serious decision to be made before starting something as serious as a marriage. It should not be merely to hide your orientation, you wouldn't be committed enough.
a gay man has no such thing as a beautiful woman! female beauty is only noticed by straight men and women.Women because they all women bisexual or lesbian.But for a gay man, only another man can be beautiful.
@@kuslat01 i need your help man , my thoughts are 100% similar to u , i know all women are lesbian , coz they are kissing , hugging , touching and calling each other beautiful all the time , only lesbian can find people of same gender physically attractive
If I marry a gay man and me as a lesbian, I wouldn't mind actually. I'd feel safe around that person but my sadness would still be there when I can't marry someone whom I actually like.
@@MrCake-ui8uo Actually this kind of marriage is basically a cover , they enter a straight marriage in front of the world or in countries where u can't marry people of the same sex unfortunately within that cover they secretly live with their same-sex partners, I've seen a case my Mom's best friend was Homosexual and it was so heartbreaking when I heard her story, it's just so painful 💔 People should be true to themselves, stop fearing what other people will say , everyone is different, Homosexual unions are beautiful 🌹
@@fatimayaseen6075 you're right.. I am living in a conservative country.. And I've seen alot of homosexual people here.. Mostly lesbian girls here face this issue cause guys could remain unmarried... But girls had to get a straight marriage for the society.. Very few of them come out to they're parents..
I'm a straight woman, but I've had gay guys say that if they were straight, I'd be the girl they'd go for....its sad because it's hard to find a straight guy with the same self care of a gay man.
@@nebakanezaforevermore2452 Lol how shallow of them. I took it as a compliment. I think everyone wonders what kind of person they'd go for if they were into the opposite sex or were the opposite without actually thinking it to be real, because they know who they are
This show is inaccurate. Two straight people divorce at a high rate too as well as two Gay or Lesbian couples divorce at about the same rate. Look at the African American community. The6 aren’t getting married at high rates. Mixed orientation marriages would be helpful because kids would have a father.
I know someone in my city who did this and he has a few kids with his ex wife and went on a few tv shows to talk about why it works. But since then he has gotten a divorce and now co parents his children with her. Ultimately it never works out in the long run. You can not be happy in a life or in a relationship that truly doesn't fit your needs for happiness. He now has a boyfriend and is being more open and honest about why his marriage to a woman was never going to work, he was truly just so unfulfilled in the relationship despite how much he cared for his ex wife as a person. As another gay person who knows his story i'm glad he chose to find true happiness for himself in a relationship that will emotionally fulfill him.
Lizette Ramirez Miranda true, it doesn’t matter who and who will going to be happy or not, as long the person’s heart had a connection to another person’s then they’ll be happy. Sexuality doesn’t matter:)
At a 11:33 when he said "Today is hard, and today I wish I had something else..." She replied "right..." But she kind of looked like someone just punched her right in the gut... My heart hurts for both of them. They both seem like loving and involved parents and great friends... But I think this would be hard. It reminds me of Josh and Lolly. So heartbreaking.
He's being cruel to tell her this. Could you imagine straight marriage if everytime one met someone they thought was more attractive physically, emotionally and/or relationally, that they told their spouse they were "struggling today".....that would make for a pretty miserable marriage for all involved. One has to determine if marriage is about being true to your spouse and your own beliefs or just about living for the moment. The other gay guy who divorced his wife and left his kids wasn't just "attracted to men" but had gender dysphoria and was playing the part of a wife in his new homosexual relationship.
i don't think they could move beyond Salt Lake and have it work... they're held in place by literal community, community ideals and their commitments , their biz, but they're in a cultural bubble , like "PLeasantville' the movie where everyone was back in the1950s...)
@@CM-sy3to I mean ya but at some point as a woman and as a human you have to realize that is beyond you.imagine if you had to be with the sexual partner u were not attracted to. I'm sure you would struggle as well!
I feel so sad for BOTH the husband and wife. Although I wish them the very best, there’s no way this “marriage” will ever work out. Plus, when the interviewer asked if he had ever been with a man at 1:44, I didn’t believe his response for a second.
These situations are so complicated and difficult. This can be a serious issue. I come from a part of the world where being openly gay is still not easy, especially not for men, and especially if they are the only son in the family. Lots of men struggle so much even to just acknowledge and accept themselves that they might be gay, let alone forming a relationship with another man without hiding it from everyone. It's so sad, why can't we just let people love who they love? It doesn't affect straight people in any way! Lots of gay men try to force themselves to be straight and date women, which causes a lot of collateral damage. I fell in love with a gay man twice, once when i was 18, and once when i was 29. In both cases I did suspect they might be gay, but they openly pursued me, and I had no proof. Both situations ended very badly, with both sides being hurt. I felt confused, manipulated, like something was wrong with me and like my view of the situation was not real or valid. I wouldn't wish that situation upon anyone. Both of those men were wonderful people, and we could have had beautiful friendships, if they weren't forced by social norms to pretend they were straight, and if they could've been honest with themselves and with me. The first guy went into severe depression for 3 years after our relationship, until he was finally able to accept that he's gay and find love with a man. The second guy still doesn't admit that he's gay, although it's a public secret that his best friend is actually his partner. So much emotional pain and trauma caused by unacceptance of gay people, it's deeply unfair and sad. If you can't be open-minded enough to just leave gay people alone for their sake, then at least do it for your own sake - how would you feel if you or someone you care for ends up in a relationship like that, simply because of stupid social stigma? Let people love who they love. It's not your business.
oh, Thank you greatly for sharing that. As a 60 year recovering Catholic gay man, I struggled with both internalized homophobia , and trying to date women and "do the "Right thing", but i couldn't muster 'second dates' !... Ghosting ! haha ... the whole period was full of guilt , shame & heaviness. I'm glad I made it to 60 as I had much low-self esteem based on Manipulative stupid church teachings and the confusion of the 1980s. AIDS was a whole other layer of weird fear shit... I'm glad i let go of trying to prove anything !!! xoxox
I know a couple in a mixed-orientation marriage who has been happily married for 20 years now. They have 5 children together and the husband has been openly gay even before he met his wife. The wife also entered their marriage knowing that and i dunno how they do it but they somehow make it work... Maybe they’re the exception in this instance i dunno... But hearing Blaine say, “Today was bad. Today i wish i had something else.” really made my heart break for this particular couple. 💔 I dunno how Lindsay can hear that and not feel terrible... 💔
It's their insane religious beliefs that keep them trapped. They both believe he won't go to the celestial kingdom unless he marries a woman: that's the Mormon dogma. It's so incredibly sad. Stop romanticizing the bullshit they tell themselves. It's okay to say, "I love you, and I will always be here for you, but I know you're not the one and we both deserve to be happy."
If sex is so important to you that you are willing to sacrifice a family over a great sexual experience, then that is an individual choice. I just think some people feel there are things in life MORE IMPORTANT that sexual gratification. Seems like this mixed-orientation couple have chosen other aspects of a relationship to focus on. People in this comment section act like sex is the most important thing in a person's life but I am sure many people have "settled" on partners where the sex is not great but the relationship is good. Do you leave someone just because the sex is not great (I mean maybe you do, again individual choice)? Some people choose the other aspects of relationships that satisfy them over sexual satisfaction. Once you reach a certain age you realize sex isn't that important, it is nice when sex and love and marriage all line up, but I have very rarely seen ANY couple who remain in LUST with each other after years of marriage.
I been married for 25 years now with a women. She's aware of my bi sexuality an we get alone just fine have two kids in their 20's. This type of relationship is not for every couple.
Blaine and Lindsay's marriage makes sense to me. They've been friends since school; their interests, religion and goals are the same and, as they point out - they communicate. Even if their marriage ends after the kids grow up, they have achieved a relationship many straight couples would envy. I must add though that he must be more bisexual than gay -> I simply could not have sex with a woman.
It seems that he has sex with her because he loves her, but he's not attracted to her. Seems pretty gay to me. But who knows, I'm not the gatekeeper queen of the bisexuals.
Agree. This is a particular case in which they were very close friends and apparently communicate well. After all according to many scientists humans are naturally made for short term monogamy, so even if they split in the future, it would have been a successful pairing in scientific terms.
Living in Utah I can say a ton of people get married to people they're not attracted to you because of pressures from the church but that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with their sexuality. A lot of the strait couples hate each other too.
But what if you’re gay but you fell in love with a person/individual who just happens to be a woman? I mean there are couples where the man came out as trans or gay to his wife but the attraction and love s/he has towards his wife goes beyond just sexual desire and attraction. There are millions of people who are in arranged marriages as part of their culture and yet live a happy & fulfilled married life while there are others who choose their partner and live an unfulfilled married life. There are also people who have a happy open marriage which works for them. Bottomline is People are just complicated! We are in no position to judge people and their relationships. None of us are arbiters of the “best” or “happy” marriages. I think Blaine and Lindsay are an ideal couple. If we truly support LOVEWINS and the acceptance of ALL orientations then we should also accept and respect the decision of different orientation marriages. Let us be TRULY practice the love wins movement and provide the support and safe space to others that we wish people gave us. ☺️
That would be called a platonic friendship then wouldn't it? Can't be called a real relationship. If they are attracted to the opposite gender on all fronts then they can no longer be called gay or lesbian. They would be bisexual or straight.
So soooooo strange. Gaslighting yourself into a fake life. Having your husband telling you that ''this is a hard gay day'' Wow. I mean, how much more can you be in denial as HIS wife.
I’m a non-LDS gay man in his mid-30s. I’ve been through many unhappy homosexual relationships, and I want children more than anything-that is the MOST important thing in my life and in vitro/surrogacy is practically unobtainable for me financially. At my age, a heterosexual relationship where I’m honest with myself about her doesn’t seem as crazy as it did a decade ago. Call me crazy but this video is helpful and a viable option for me and the minority of gay men like me. Thank you for this. What do you think??
This is so Interesting. Maybe give it a try as long as you're honest about your feelings and upfront w her. Have you ever been attracted to a woman at all?
Test your desire on pornography before engaging, even if you can't do it on pleasure you will have it over time, Some people develop homosexual orientation but were not born with it , I believe such cases are reversible.
At least its a choice , I don't think many people want to be gay especially christians so if the option is this other than loneliness and Gods detest as well as public detest I'd rather the hypocrisy especially the fact that hypocrites don't necessarily get condemned to hell
@@filmi6873 I've liked women because I have to and the bible says to , but I don't like them sexually and I get depressed thinking of sex with them but I want to get married and only have sex to procreate
Dude if you are gay you are gay. Live your life how you want. Lifes to short to cut yourself short. Thats coming from a happily married straight dude with several gay friends.
I think he loves her, even loves her enough to want to raise children with her. I think it'd be really cool if it became a thing that people could raise children with those that they love platonically, like a platonic marriage. That could be between people of any gender as well.
To me they are frauds.! They've deceived their spouses and denied them the opportunity to engage in a conventional relationship.. They are a disgrace. No good.
This is definitely complicated. I read a story about a gay man falling for a woman. He’s still attracted to men and does not have attraction for other women. In the story the character tries to understand his feelings by getting to know her as a friend while also dating men he eventually realized the joy attraction and happiness he feels when he’s with her and also felt jealousy when she’s with other men. At first he thought he was jealous because other men was attracted to her but realized how he hated them touching her and had a point where he thought he wants to be the only one she hugs, hold hands with, kiss etc. That’s when he realized he fell for this girl. For him it didn’t matter what the gender was but it’s the person that he fell for. The story goes on with him trying to attract his future wife while she only saw him as her gay best friend. He sort of uses that to his advantage to get close to her while also seducing her with his charm. I can’t remember the name but it’s really funny since it talks about him doing things like coming out of the bathroom wet with just a towel wrapped around his waist and asking her to dry his hair and shes just like alright sit down without a reaction which disappointed him.
It would be hard to not have your husband find you attractive I admit. They do seem relatively happy though . Why, not have a church who accepts you for who you are though?
The interviewer is SO kind and empathic!😢❤️ When that poor young man was tearfully speaking of his suicidal thoughts,her eyes were getting misty too😢💔 You could see her soft kindness and that she hurt for him.💔
Call me a hater but there is no love in that marriage. She is doing it for charity and “heaven points” and he’s doing it because he doesn’t want to go to hell.
You are not hater,you are honest 👍💯,there is no god actually,if people believe in spirituality it's best to chose Buddhism like liberal religion than abrahamics
@@Tamil_Atheist2023There is God but It's your opinion if you say if there's no God.. But I don't think you should just tell people there's no God, at the end of the day we never know. So just don't assume and stuff
@@Moon_light12392 there is no evidence a god matching the description proposed by any major religion exists. There have been numerous studies to try to prove divine interference or to provide evidence towards the claims of certain religions, and none of them have produced results in favor of religion. These studies do provide evidence against these religious claims. What we cannot prove or disprove is that there was some kind of higher being that set in motion the creation of our universe. However, all evidence suggests that said being either does not influence our lives directly, or at the very least is not at all like how religions describe them.
I am a straight woman and I want companionship of a gay. I am very feminine and masculinity proves just too much for me. I don't mind living virgin all my life, I just want a more compassionate companion. A gay person might just be the one. I don't think I would mind if the person gets physical with other men at the same time....
I've had no idea this was actually a thing. I'm the first born child to preachers, they don't about me being gay though... when i discovered myself around the age of 12 i fought against it after hearing the community members, colleagues, family and the church constantly talk down against the lgbt community i fought from 12 to my mid 20s... from willing myself to change, prayer + fast to change, even had 3 girlfriends in an attempt to change but nothing. after my 3rd girlfriend and I went our separate ways i decided to stop fighting and accept myself for what i am a lot of people claim "being gay is a choice. you may have the feelings inside but you dont have to give in to it" but im sure if a gay man asks to marry their daughters because its the "right thing" or "against the religion" theyd most likely refuse because they wont want their daughter enduring a complicated relationship like that so my thing is if you dont want me to put your daughter through that, why should i put someone else's... unless you expect me to live a life of celibacy and lonliness
I did the same as you did when I realised I like men, I fought against it. Do you know what's hilarious about this whole thing though? When i tried to force muself to like girls, I couldn't at all, but after I stopped believing in most of the Christian doctrine and started accepting myself and exploring other religions, I realised that I'm actually slightly bi. Isn't that just priceless. I started liking some girls when it was no longer a necessity for me to like them 😂. I still mostly go for guys though
Even as a gay man, I can understand why the gay partner may wish to have the social respectability and conformity of marriage and chance to have a family. What I find hard to understand is how it works for a heterosexual spouse to be marriage to somebody who is gay.
This is a domestic partnership at this point. I'm a lesbian. I'm allowed to come out freely and would like to live freely. There is enough stress in life. Good on them, not for me.
A lot of women are naturally chaste, so they might be up for a marriage where they get a lot of affection and emotional support without the demand for frequent sex.
I know the subject matter of this video is slightly different because of the religion aspect, but you have to remember that some people make this choice freely. Two years ago one of my best friends, who is not religious at all, married her best friend, a gay man. They are soulmates in an utterly committed and loving platonic relationship. Their marriage is sexually open (because they are not really a couple) but they live together and care for each other in every way. It works for them and though they face judgement, they're genuinely one of the sweetest and most affectionate pairs I've ever seen. I agree that there's something messy about relationships like the one in the video- although, hey! free choices- but there are people in the comments here saying such a mixed-orientation could "never work". This is simply not true. If a relationship is truly loving, whoever it involves, then it can work.
I’m sorry that sounds like friendship with extra steps. kinda like they just settled because they couldn’t find relationships on their own. Platonic relationships are just friendships . Being married friends is nothing compared to marrying someone your actually attracted to.Either way a mixed orientation relationship should not be encouraged just like marrying someone for money. If you make that choice it’s on you, don’t recommend it or encourage it to people.
@@Dellennickolis95 not everyone care about religion nor romantic shit. Someone can marry a man despite being a man, and someone can marry opposite sex despite being gay. Marriage is subjective, and getting less important anyway that two straight girls could married just because they feel it would be cute. also, there is this thing called "divorce" when you have enough of your marriage.
@@Dellennickolis95 Lmao judgmental why u always say they'll not last long I mean in our country this relationship is common homo married hetero and lesbians married gay but they've healthy relationship lmao cause even hetero couples not all will last long just like the celebrity that got married for 1day and got divorced afterwards.
@@Dellennickolis95 I agree, everything that is a joke is seen as serious these days. A marriage involves sexual, physical and emotional attraction. If he is gay, then it is not really a marriage. He is using her as a shield to conceal his real identity which he should be free to live. Everybody wants their cake and eat it these days.
If you could get over the fact that it is their insane, false religious beliefs keeping them both trapped in such "an arrangement", you would be able to see that they're both suffering and absolutely would not be in this kind of situation otherwise. Thanks again, religion.
That’s not how it works some have the attraction too a male but for 100% don’t want a male they have romantic feelings for woman tho which are strong than they doit and have sex get childeren etc that’s how.
People don't realize how fluid sexuality can be through out a person's life. Many of your straight spouses explore, but then again, they wouldn't tell you. I seen it many times
@@blainefiasco8225 Nope, I respectfully disagree, many straight people experiment, it is call, getting to know what you really like,. and then many of them get marry heterosexually.
There are as many types of relationships as people in the world, every person is different. Some things will work for some that might never work for others. I have a deep level of respect for people who enter a relationship with full honesty, knowing well what they are getting into and trying to make it work. Blaine and Lindsay´s relationship might not work for most people, and could probably make many miserable, but it seems to have worked for them for 15 years. I respect that.
As an ex-mormon I know a dirty little secret that they don't want to tell outsiders. People are absolutely bullied into staying in marriages. If you are mormon and you get a divorce you are seen as an outsider and ostracized. The immense social pressure keeps miserable couples together, I have seen it ruin hundreds of lives.
Same bro. As a bisexual man, I've never been sure if I am going to married a girl or a boy. It feels like everybody in my family and my community staring at me and forcing me to be straight whick makes me uncomfortable and depressed
This woman would have to have an Insane sense of security. Kudos for her for being next-level openminded. I truly wish the best for them and their kids!
@@Svenshineno one forced her husband to marry her. He obviously loves her and chose her above everyone else. Some people can't do it because they are not strong enough nor open minded enough. I have a personal friend who is very spiritual and although he is gay, he chose to marry a woman that he loved and was very good friends with. No one forced him and she doesn't need him. They are fully aware of the complexity of their situation. I personally don't know if I would ever marry a man knowing he was gay. But I would never say never. I wish this amazing couple many blessings and many more years of happiness, love, and good health.❤❤
@M. Sami are you suggesting gay people are collectively coming together in the thousands to date the same sex as a giant scheme to trick society into thinking they exist?
@M. Sami hey man, i appreciate the thought, but i don’t give two shits about sexual orientation change through religion. just leave people alone, let them live their life. i promise, gay people want nothing to do with you or your religious conversion therapy.
I'm a lesbian who has been in a relationship with a boy for almost two years, he's the love of my life, we have a fulfilling sex life and an open relationship so we can both explore our sexualities, but he's the only one I'm in love with and I want to marry him :)
@look behind you u could be either bisexual or bi-curious, a lesbian is a women who is attracted and dates women (obviously), so you are probably not a lesbian if you're attracted/or love the guy, you could love him as a friend sure but I don't think lesbians love guys romantically lol. ur probably a heteroromantic bisexual, meaning you experience attraction to both genders but you only feel like dating opposite-sex, sorry if I got it wrong but you don't seem like a lesbian because you just said you are dating a guy. :)
I met someone 2 years ago, in a very strange, impossible situation (no adultery, something else). The crushing was so overwhelming from both sides. When he looked at me, it was fire. I had never felt that energy of 'I WANT you', mixed with so much pure love at the same time. And he was gay. And it was an impossible situation. I've never had so much heartache in my entire life. I thought I was going to die from heart pain. Must have been something spiritual. But impossible in this life. Ultimately, the problem was also that in the end, he was not as brave and honest as I am. We did not have the same standards in that regard. He was a bit of a shape shifter (lots of 'white lies'). A bad communicator and a bit of a chicken. So, it probably never would have worked out anyway. Pffff.... this love stuff can be so complicated. I still cry when I think of him sometimes. I will always love him.
This man is a therapist that helps people reconcile their sexual orientation! What the fuck! Does he also realize he is enabling denial, emotional abuse, repression of emotions and ones true self?
I don't recall him saying he helped people reconcile their sexual orientations, did he? Because he could well be a therapist who doesn't deal with that topic. But even if he did, who's to say he would advise his patients to do what he did? I mean he says they will support their kid being gay and pursuing gay relationships.
I find this slightly disturbing, not because gay man/straight woman or straight man/gay woman shouldn't be able to do what makes them mutually happy, because they should and I'm fully supportive. In fact, many marriages coexist peacefully in which either the husband or the wife is bisexual and has the freedom to seek out same-sex partners outside the marriage with their spouse's blessing in order to allow the sentimental and familial bond of of love and obligation they share to exist without any undue hindrance. However, my only qualms stem from the fact that this arrangement appears to have been arrived at only as a way of fitting into a Church-sanctioned paradigm of sorts, an already worrisome motivation, but especially so in a Church which still views LGBTQ+ members as alien creatures to be 'tolerated' rather than fully embraced and given the freedom to marry whomever they actually LOVE and are attracted to, both physically and sentimentally. Also, in response to the assertion made by the first mixed-orientation wife, Lindsay Hickman, to the effect that her husband chose her 'out of all the boys and the girls,' I would have to disagree for it appears as though he chose her simply because she was his only viable option if he wished to be gay and married in the Mormon Church.
I think love is love,it is possible for a gay man and a straight female to fall in love. I respect this couples relationship, n it is normal for them to fall in love. I think they both respect each other aswell. If it didnt work out well at least they tried and did have a relationship
I want a family, and I'd rather marry than grow old alone and having meaningless hookups that never go anywhere. I want something traditional and gay men won't provide that. I prefer feminine energy, shapes and mannerisms, though I'm neutral towards women physically. Not opposed.
OK, to all the commenters: he was even told by his parents that they'd accept him no matter what, AND HE STILL CHOSE HER!!!! That's not to downgrade the pain and misery of people such as the other guy in the video, or of anyone who identifies as gay and constantly feels judged. I'm LDS, and I've seen for myself and through fellow members' accounts that even within a Church that couldn't possibly emphasize more the need to speak kindly and show Christlike love and attributes to ALL of God's children, gay or straight (though some on here, due to the Church's stance on marriage, would disagree - to which I say, "That's OK - you're free to your opinion"), there are plenty of busybodies who live the "church culture" rather than Church teachings - my family is a bit different. I don't mean to equate my personal experiences with that of others which were most definitely worse, but we've had some wards (or "congregations" as you might call them) where I felt that bitter sting of loneliness and being cut off from everyone because my family didn't fit that perfect little Molly Mormon mold. So, sadly, it doesn't surprise me to hear about members feeling ostracized or and judged from fellow members who think they know what they're talking about but really don't (keep in mind, the Church may have a firm stance on marriage, but our leaders have also countless times taught that we should spread love, kindness, and acceptance to people with same-sex attraction . . . including those who disagree with that stance. So it's not a Church issue, it's a "culture" issue). That said, that doesn't give anyone the right to tell these people not to try to make it. If he married her simply because marrying a woman was the right thing to do, or if he were trying to "fix" his same-sex attraction, I'd say differently. But that's not the case - he *chose* her. And I'll point out, too, that *she* chose *him* - I say that, because as much misery and suffering as many homosexual people already go through in the Church, for some that causes even *more* heartache - the idea even someone of the opposite sex refuses to marry a gay person. This leaves them feeling even *more* judged and ostracized. The fact that she doesn't judge him may very well be what got him to choose her. And, finally, what of people who *aren't* so religious and are gay (homosexual activity and everything, and fully identify as gay or lesbian) and yet suddenly find that *one* person of the other sex who throws them through a loop? Heck, there's an article out there about a lesbian who wound up marrying her egg donor and daughter's biological father. Look it up, if you don't believe me. These people typically say that their attraction is more emotional than sexual (which is what I'd imagine true love actually is, anyway). Are we going to tell *them* that their feelings for each other aren't real? Isn't saying a mixed-orientation relationship such as the one in the video is doomed to fail a slap in *their* faces? Because they will tell you it's every bit as real as their relationships with anyone of the same sex (in some cases, even more so). Just don't judge someone else's marriage and relationships based on bias. That's all I'm trying to say.
@@benmelman9505 I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. No, I don't hate anyone. The only thing I hate here is the hypocritical judgment people are making here - that the same people who expect others to accept them and whoever they choose to live with/marry are commenting on here that the couple featured in this video shouldn't be together. If we're going to promote "marriage equality" and diversity without judgment, shouldn't that apply to these guys, too?
As someone who is ex-Mormon, I can tell you 100% that you're living in a fantasy world to ever think that this "relationship" is anything less than insanity...yes, foisted upon this poor man and woman (and children) thanks to their insane religious beliefs. He does NOT need to be married to a woman, but believes this to be the case so that he can go to the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom. Please get a grip on reality before you hurt more people with your mental gymnastics.
@@veganreignmaker Hmmm . . . So . . . You're telling me . . . That a gay man shouldn't be able to choose to marry whoever he wants? AND if you watched the video, they said that his parents told him it'd be completely OK if he married a man. AND he said, when given the choice between the Church and his marriage with his wife, he would choose his marriage. Might want to consider that his love for her might actually be genuine? There's a lot more to love - even romantic love - than lusting after each other. And there is a VAST difference between being "realistic" and outright judging someone else's situation and experience just for being different from others. I've even had some gay people - as in even have S.O.s of the same sex - say that a mixed orientation marriage *can* work. If you don't believe people should be judged for who they marry, then I highly suggest you start practicing that, yourself, before accusing others of "mental gymnastics".
He doesn’t want to be sexually involved with men because it violates his personal sense of morality, it doesn’t ultimately have to be about the church, but his own sense of conscience.
@@sexykitten0814 That is incorrect. Opposition to homosexuality exclusively comes from religious sources. There is no logical secular reason to be anti-gay
@@xXEGPXx That’s actually the point. Everyone isn’t interested in a secular life. For many people, their personal sense of morality and conscience is strongly tied to their religious beliefs. If someone believes part of his “commitment to God”, means to make the decision not to engage in behavior that he does not believe would meet with God’s approval, that’s his business and his entitlement. There are people who feel the same way about heterosexual sex outside of a marriage, and elect not to engage it, despite their urges. As I said, it comes down to everyone having and living by their own beliefs.
Well, it's just simple, if you're gay but you are forced to marry a woman by for example your parents, you ain't gonna be happy, BUT, if you're gay and there is a woman you like LIKE and you really want something with her, I think it can work out
Amin Faka then he’s not really gay , he’s A Bisexual man lol & I do think that if he’s bisexual yes it can workout Because he has attraction to females still , but if he’s a straight up gay dude then no cause sooner or later he’s going to want a guy .
There is nothing called "if u r gay and u like a woman"(friendship excluded). If u r gay you wont like a woman romantically or sexually even if you try hard
It's clear that Blaine and Lindsay love each over so much that their different orientations mean absolutely nothing to them, which is good! If you love each other, and a heterosexual relationship is what you-either a gay man or lesbian woman want, then i say go for it. I support this type of relationship just as much as i support both straight and gay/lesbian relationships!
This couple has greater commitment to their church and its cultural and social pressures than they do to themselves or each other. They both exercise a severe level of self-deception and have gaslit themselves into a reality that is distorted and severed from who they truly are. Sex isn’t everything in a relationship. But, it sure is a barometer. Both partners are allowed to want to feel desired by the other. We should feel fully connected to our special person through all means available to us in this life: Mentally, amicably, spiritually, physically, emotionally, and yes, even sexually. How unsettling that this wife does not acknowledge how unequal this relationship is. According to his religious beliefs, she’s his ticket into heaven. He’s willing to allow her to go this entire life questioning his desire for her, all under the duress that it’s a necessary and eternal sacrifice to be made in this life. God wants his children to experience joy. Is this truly their joy? Or, have they backed themselves into a mindset and commitment they feel powerless to escape? It’s sad that this couple has committed to a partnership of consolation, rather than one of passionate conviction, transparency, and authenticity. I think it’s commendable they value marrying your best friend, but we are creatures capable of deeper physical love & connection, worthy of so much more joy than this.
This isn’t anyone’s business, and not an outsider’s place to judge. Not everyone values sexual behavior and preferences as priority in a marriage or relationship. If it is most important to these people to have a traditional heterosexual marriage and a conventional family, while respecting their morals, that’s their prerogative. No one is under duress here, as they are consenting adults who have every right and ability to choose whom they marry. No outsider is in a position to assume the they can’t have a happy and fulfilling relationship. I’m sure it has its own challenges, but arranged marriages existed for centuries, when marriage wasn’t really a choice and was necessary for survival and heirship, as it was the only way people could have children. This obviously included gay people, and yet people most often still managed to find happiness and even love with each other eventually. It all comes down to personal choice and priorities.
Most intelligent comment here. The rest of the comments are ridiculous because they seem to come from zealot Christians who think it is okay to live a lie for the sake of God who hasn't been proven to exist.
@@sexykitten0814 Everything you said only further supports my argument. Self-deception is the primary energy in this relationship. You have just equated this marriage to the antiquated arranged marriages of the past. Aren’t we way past that in our day? Just because something was done in the past doesn’t give it automatic acceptance to be done in the present. We should evolve and move beyond our mistakes and shortcomings in relationships. Not cling to tradition as a way to justify the poor decisions made in the present. The determination to ignore the red flags this marriage scenario presents is symptomatic of your own willingness to self-deceive, yet you will wear that mindset like a badge of honor as if your support for their privacy and intimate decisions is the “woke” thing to do. When truly, it couldn’t be more perpetuating of the unhealthy and deceitful relationships that exist among the religious communities these people exist.
@@DesigNatedAudio What I said does not validate your argument at all. On the contrary, it shows your bias to your own way of thinking, namely in that you assume that people you don’t even know, must be self deceptive, and unhappy, since they value sex and marriage/relationships differently than you do. Those antiquated arranged marriages of the past are not only outdated in today’s world because they were based on survival, practically, and political association, but also, because people today, unlike then, have options unavailable to people of the world long ago, and therefore, now have every right to exercise choice. These are competent, consenting adults who have made their choices when it comes to such priorities, and to assume that they aren’t, because they think differently than yourself, or the status quo, is just as judgmental and narrow minded, as people accuse the fundamentally religious of being so, when it comes to not supporting homosexual relationships. You may not be religious and that’s certainly your prerogative, as is the right to hold the opinion that the nature of sexual relationships is paramount to a couple’s happiness, as it typically is the case, since humans, in general, are sexual beings. But don’t assume just because you and many others tend to feel that way, that means everyone else in the world has to as well. People are all different and have different priorities. For people whose religious beliefs are very important to them, being happy both in life and marriage/long term relationships, is very integral to being loyal to their own personal sense of moral conviction. It’s much like supporting the relationships between gay individuals. It’s not for anyone else to determine what constitutes a happy and fulfilling life or marriage for someone else, only the individuals involved can truly know that. If they come to feel it isn’t working for them, that’s between them as well and it’s their choice to change it or not. Just like in supporting the LGBT community, in their rights to have relationships, it’s all about live and let live, not, “Your way of thinking and feeling is wrong, or dismal, because it’s different than I think it should be.”
Marriage: No offense, but I was given an actual holy sanction. The guy and gal are biologically made to fit anyway. Gay Marriage: LOVE is LOVE. Don't toss me aside so easily! Marriage: I haven't really don't anything. But honestly, you look more like two best buds holing up with each other purely out of a need to avoid solitude. When "Love" becomes your idol, and you completely give yourself over to it, your reasoning and common sense get tossed aside. Gay Marriage: #@R$%@#$%@#$%@!$%#$!!!! Marriage: And I'm not saying I'M for everyone! Het couples who rush into this are just as bad because they didn't take the time to really make it work!
@@1aundulxaldin did you just say that if two people of the same sex are getting married, they either actually dont love each other or their just really good best friends? Lmao 😂😂
@@jinqo7975 Yes. That is exactly what I meant. I think two men can love each other but with same emotional and even physical (Like, think, HUGS) closeness as two brothers, or a pair of friends who respect one another's boundaries. I mean, sure you could even have two men living in the same residence like it was The Odd Couple or Full House or something, fine. But then perversion sets in and the sacredness with which Marriage is treated is distorted, when the two in question decide to force it into imitating the same kind of marital and sexual intimacy that can only exist between a man and woman, which is what God originally intended. THAT said, I should've added, I need to clue you in on something critical. No matter what legislative branch of government responsible for making up laws on the go to accommodate for a broader public appeal tells you, two men or two women getting married to each other DOESN'T count as an actual marriage. We have foreign countries' governments even today making up new rules that now say, "It's totally okay" even though it wasn't before, all just to keep the people it represents happy. Fact of the matter? Marriage remains traditionally as something that is, since the beginning of time and history, God ordained, lifelong commitment between a man and woman, for the purposes of not just pleasure but also of propagation.
@@1aundulxaldin The fact that Mormons believe only a man and woman married together can make it to the highest Celestial Kingdom is an insane belief, that only spawns suffering for gay people. If you don't want to believe marriage is legitimate between anyone other than a man and a woman, that's okay for YOUR life...not okay for people who are born non-binary or hermaphrodite, or who want to know the truth about false Mormon dogma and actually care about the suffering of others.
Thank you so much. This is the first time I've seen a reporter who is not judgemental towards Christians. If all renters could be impartial and loving, that would be so great.
This is just sad. I feel awful for the couple. For her to have to hear that and for him to have to marry a women to not remain celibate for late or leave the church and be ex-communicated is awful
I have met at least 4 couples that both are opposite sex but felt gay but are not indifferent to their partners, they really love each other and share many things and have children. They told me they chose family and love for sex. And sexual addiction was not an issue when they were young. And now that they are older they are so happy the choice they had. Having a same sex partner and making ivf children would not being their cupnof tea. They are old fashioned.
My cousin is in a mixed orientation marriage for five years now, he was crying in his wedding day Now he has a kid It ve been a while since i saw him my mom says he's fine but im not sure 😭 I will never get my self in a mixed marriage omg
Hence, the insanity of false religions. People being willing to do this instead of "being ex-communicated" is so sad...they still can't even see why it's insane, when everything points to it.
l don't wanna be the one but, when i read this, this shocked me. l feel so bad for the man.... l mean crying on your marriage day, that's suposed to be happy and fulfilling to me is crazy. l feel really sad now, l don't wanna say it but, l hope he got/gets a divorce sooner than later. For his own and his wife's sake. l too would cry if l was forced to marry a woman
What a powerful interview! Two couples, one mixed orientation opposite sex, one same sex. I believe that same sex marriage and opposite sex marriage are equally valid vocations. A vocation is divine inspired. By listening to God, we find our own vocation and are happy.
You can be gay. In my experience the worst feeling was the feeling I had before I came out and hoping mainly my family would be fine and also trying to process it all myself. Now I'm older and came out a while ago I feel like a weight has been lifted. I'm my true self and don't feel like I have to conform to society and the more I watch people being sucked in by religion, their culture and society, the happier I feel. The beauty of being yourself is worth so much more than everyone's acceptance. Just remember everyone just wants to be their true self in order to be happy and people only put others down because they don't like themselves or are unhappy with their lives.
My cousin whos gay married his best friend who's a lesbian in 1988 because they wanted kids. Now their children are grown, and they are still married and happy.
I can’t even imagine what this is like. My closest thought would be me marrying my sister and trying to have sex with her. I really hope it works out for them but I’d be curious to see if the marriage survives empty nest syndrome.
That doesn't necessarily mean ur gay tho I have gay thoughts but I'm attracted to woman and gay activities kind of disgust me but I do have thoughts sometimes
I love how they say that some gay people can find peace with it (generally this is the case if they have a partner they can speak to openly about it) and others end up suicidal. Everybody is different. I’m not sure I would be comfortable demanding that my partner living a life that is so incongruent with their inner world. Although I understand how complicated things are especially w kids.
I think it's becoming more common sort of, like a few examples around maybe. There are some religious gay men that say they are married to ladies now or whatever and stopped seeing other guys, but they are admitting they are still attracted to men because it's more truthful.
I found out 10 years later my husband is attracted to men. Turned my life upside down. I love him but it hurts too much. He told me he's not gay but has same sex attraction. It's all so confusing.
@@sophiesjourney1551 Hi Sophie, it seems we're both in very similar situations. I can completely empathise with your feelings. Please feel free to get in touch, if you'd like to chat. Take care.
I think that their marriage works because they both seem like genuine, rational people, helping each other to accept the roles that they feel they ought to play in life, like actors helping eachother improve their acting skills to satisfy the audience (God and society). I think if either one of them were living in the illusion that everything's great or everything's fine or life's just black and white(aka, if they were less self-aware) , then they might not have been as happy. What do I know though, I haven't even been in a relationship yet 😅🤷♂️
I’m fascinated by this dynamic. I knew I was gay since kindergarten, and even though I got push back from my parents, there was no way in hell that I was going to be with a woman and eat p***y (sorry for being crude). My mother eventually came around. But even if she didn’t, I was prepared to spend the rest of my life alone if I wasn’t going to be with another man. And if anybody guffawed and had a problem with it, I’d just say “by all means, eat all the p***y you want in my place. I’m allergic.” Of course, I went through my own coming out process, but I guess it helped that I had remained steadfast in my beliefs since an early age.
No one is born gay , something happened in your childhood that told your brain that your attraction to certain thing was your sexual hot spot , you can train your brain to reset your sexual preferences, has been proven that no one is born gay by scientists
@@dixieblonde2208 actually scientists don't exactly know why because the brain and biology are beyond complicated and there is much we don't know. But more to the point, it's clear that living a lie causes immense harm to people, so as compassionate humans it simply should not matter. Let people live and be happy.
Exactly! Don’t force yourself to be in heterosexual relationships, when you don’t want to. If you like men, be with a man. Who cares about societal approval, just live your life. I support you.
@Dixie Blonde Why do people have to be heterosexual? Why can’t people just be left alone? I like other men, why is that an issue? If I want to be with men, what’s the problem? Why do I have to “train my brain” to like something that I do not like? I’m not attracted to women sexually, it is what it is. Why are we made to train our brains, but heterosexuals aren’t?
The first couple are best friends and have been best friends since they were just kids so even if they are not in love with each other they do love each other and respect each other very much so its not very difficult for them but the same could not be said for the others.
Dennis Jernigan and wife have, only decades ago, Dennis repented and surrendered his life to Jesus Christ, who transformed him, saved him, and granted him eternal life. Dennis fell in love with a woman, married her, and they have a gazillion children. Dennis is a famous pianist, hymn writer, recording artist. His beautiful testimony is found here on YT.
He married his bestfriend... They talk things out and I'm pretty sure if they're truly unhappy they would get a divorce. Guys love is a powerful thing ... love doesn't matter what your race is or sexual preference or gender. As long as you're mature enough to deal with everything in a relationship you'll be fine. And obviously they are .. or they wouldn't have lasted 15yrs. together.
Dude they stay tougher because the church is pressuring them! He’s crying and wanting to Kill himself, he’s not happy, he dosent divorce or kill himself because he has kids. He. Is. Pretending. He literally have a fiancé!
I just feel sorry for them, these marriages only really stem out of religion and how disgusting it is to deny someone to be themselves, I’m lucky I’m excepted and unapologetic about who I am and won’t bow down to some authoritative religion
This is the medical proof that I was born gay. The President of the Baptist Church who was a Dr said if I went through electronic shock therapy I would become straight. They put me in a locked booth and put a wire ring that measured temperature changes on my private parts and showed me about 1000 pictures of men and 1000 pictures of women over about 10 days. When my body temperature rose when I saw pictures of the men, which is natural for me, they delivered high voltages of electricity through other wires that were also attached. It was horrific. But the machine never recorded ANYTHING when I saw all those pictures of nude women. There isn't anything anyone can do to influence the outcome of those tests. The Dr at the facility said it proved that being gay is not a choice, that I am gay, and that I was born gay. When I came back to the original Dr, he laughed and said, (I quote verbatum) "That would have really hurt you eh". I went through 13 years of reparative therapy that did an enormous amount of damage. That included two lots of surgery on my esophagus for gastric reflux from the pressure of LYING about my God given gay sexual orientation. Last year I had a heart attack when my heart was 90% blocked from the long term stress of being in a MOM. I have been married to my wife for 51 years and nursed her with MS for 25 years. She is in a nursing home nearby now that costs over $A1000 per week. She accepts me and my gay friends. The Baptist Church has told me I am not welcome to even attend church, and that I never have been. I was a Baptist Pastor and Missionary. I am not sexually active. When one member of a mixed orientation is gay, that person is lying. Last time I checked, lying is sin. I strongly support same sex marriage. I have been retired over 22 years. Update: My wife passed in June 2022. Before she died I thanked her for accepting me as her gay husband. She said "Of course. That was easy. Why wouldn't I?" She was wonderful.
I sort of feel like their marriage has lasted for such a long time because they don’t know what they’re missing. He stated that he’s never been with a man and she has never been with another man either. Maybe if they had time to explore emotions and sexuality with other people when they were younger they wouldn’t have gotten married maybe? Hmm I hope it works out for them but mixed orientation marriage doesn’t seem for filling in the long run.
"it's better for my kids to have a gay dad than a dead dad." That hit hard.
mine is basically dead but don't care
@@internetpolice6383 ,,are you sure you're ok?
@@b1emb4b3y6 mine is dead too and I'm fine.
AND ALL HE SAID WAS THE TRUTH!
I'd rather be dead.
What if the woman accidentally develops feelings?😭😭 I can't be the only one who feels bad for her:((
I feel bad for her too :,) it's complicated.
She better be cheating
I feel bad for him - he needs to pass his whole life without a person who he is in love with. Yes, she may fall in love with the man who will be next to her and who will respect her. But he will never be able to experience having a man next to him who he could love.
@M. Afiq she didn’t say lust you’re confused
@M. Afiq This is not true! Sexual desire is accompanied by sexual attraction
Why can a gay man have a relationshup with a woman but I can't
Lol.
Sohell waiting u rosting ur meat and changining ur skin evey moments for ever😂😂😂
Same here man. I’ve been single for 34 years, and no woman wants me.
@@aarons.6022 wait really😂 I'm only 15 lmao
@@aarons.6022
Same here but you are more of age.
I was wheezing at the beginning "It's not like I come home and see her and say, I gotta get on that" 😂😂😂😂 LOL
At least he's honest and like most women she's thirsty
As a female that has to b hard to hear.
Nobody should be recommending mixed-orientation marriages. They cause needless pain 100% of the time and nearly always end in divorce. See the Straight Spouse Network. The stories are heart-rending. I was in one for 26 years. Much happier now married to a man for 12 years.
@ you were married to a woman for 26 years ? Is that even possible ?
chaniecekinglife14 probably the first time maybe 😂, I don’t think she cares, at least he’s honest and she knows what she signed up for
A lot of men have gay tendencies, even the straightest of men who have lacked some sort brotherhood or bond with men throughout their life may have tendencies towards trying to get that sexually, usually through not acknowledging the actual need for companionship
Or men who have friends who don’t show any sort of affection, I don’t mean they have to cuddle or hug, just lack of authenticity and care for another even if unspoken, most guys build their relationships with other men aubcinciously around avoiding the ideas of caring for one another for fear of being seen as gay/weak .. even the ones that seem the most affectionate with the fist bumping and the constant bro word and stuff
Anyways , it takes all kinds
And I’m sure there is a lot more of this going on out there than people think
And these guys seem to genuinely care about their wives, I know there guy 😂 but still, I think it’s a broken system that needs to be fixed from both ends , while trying to be as respectful to women while doing it , and to other men
It takes all kinds, and whatever, and women actually watch gay porn as one of their top categories nowadays, a lot of them with lesbian tendencies and stuff ...just goes to show they admire and are seeking men who show affection for one another, can tell the difference of men who are respected for different reasons in society and can see through some of the veils, many variables and crap
Obviously the goal isn’t a “pseudo-Eutopia” where everyone is in a straight marriage and then guys go get laid by men on saturdays or some stupid shit, Maybe for some that’s the goal, different generations of men and women struggling with different issues, some are in mentalities of past generations and some are looking towards progression for the next
Nobody should be recommending mixed-orientation marriages. They cause needless pain 100% of the time and nearly always end in divorce. See the Straight Spouse Network. The stories are heart-rending. I was in one for 26 years. Much happier now that I have been married to a man for 12 years.
@Denise Saunders yh its a shit thing to do. Im Jamaican so if i come out i'll lose my family because of this i've always wondered if i could fake it for a lifetime with a guy. I'd never do it for real though, if you aren't attracted to someone dont string them along, no matter who you'll lose because of it don't waste another person's life like that.
Not really, I know 4 couples like that. They wanted kids and love their partner and have things in common.
Most gay people have some attraction to the opposite sex. Actually most lesbian women have sex with men.
Those couples I know are older and choose family over sex.
Most gay people are sex and porn addicted. Even beyond hetero men according to studies.
This relationship is based on faith, not only desires. It's a commitment to refrain from the desire which goes against your faith. Both people know that when entering the marriage and the faith itself is kind of a guarantee. E.g. my faith prohibits ending my own life, so it's a taboo and you don't fantasize about that because you know the consequences of such a deed, although you might not sometimes see another way out, and still you know it's a taboo. Either your faith is worth it to you or it is not. Of course, a very serious decision to be made before starting something as serious as a marriage. It should not be merely to hide your orientation, you wouldn't be committed enough.
His wife is indeed beautiful
a gay man has no such thing as a beautiful woman! female beauty is only noticed by straight men and women.Women because they all women bisexual or lesbian.But for a gay man, only another man can be beautiful.
@@kuslat01 All women are not bisexual but all women recognize their competition when they see it
She looks like a man to me. Masculinity on a female makes a woman seem like a lesbian.
@@kuslat01 i need your help man , my thoughts are 100% similar to u , i know all women are lesbian , coz they are kissing , hugging , touching and calling each other beautiful all the time , only lesbian can find people of same gender physically attractive
@Sourav Das u r wrong
If I marry a gay man and me as a lesbian, I wouldn't mind actually. I'd feel safe around that person but my sadness would still be there when I can't marry someone whom I actually like.
ok so you guys aren't gonna have sex ?
I've seen a couple where husband was gay and wife was lesbian... They've been married for 6 yrs now..
I've heard cases like that here in the Philippines ( gay and lesbian marriage)
@@MrCake-ui8uo Actually this kind of marriage is basically a cover , they enter a straight marriage in front of the world or in countries where u can't marry people of the same sex unfortunately within that cover they secretly live with their same-sex partners, I've seen a case my Mom's best friend was Homosexual and it was so heartbreaking when I heard her story, it's just so painful 💔 People should be true to themselves, stop fearing what other people will say , everyone is different, Homosexual unions are beautiful 🌹
@@fatimayaseen6075 you're right.. I am living in a conservative country.. And I've seen alot of homosexual people here.. Mostly lesbian girls here face this issue cause guys could remain unmarried... But girls had to get a straight marriage for the society.. Very few of them come out to they're parents..
I'm a straight woman, but I've had gay guys say that if they were straight, I'd be the girl they'd go for....its sad because it's hard to find a straight guy with the same self care of a gay man.
What state are you in
@@itscesarbtch3451 Canada
They were lying to you they love lies
@@itscesarbtch3451 Alberta
@@nebakanezaforevermore2452 Lol how shallow of them. I took it as a compliment. I think everyone wonders what kind of person they'd go for if they were into the opposite sex or were the opposite without actually thinking it to be real, because they know who they are
"It's not like I come home and see her and say, I gotta get on that"
Feeling sorry for the wife that had to hear that :/
But I'm dying here 😆
Bwahaha, what's more funny is that she is smiling throughout the video. Pair of jokers.
It was rude
This show is inaccurate. Two straight people divorce at a high rate too as well as two Gay or Lesbian couples divorce at about the same rate. Look at the African American community. The6 aren’t getting married at high rates. Mixed orientation marriages would be helpful because kids would have a father.
Selfish people.
@@92GreyBlue like most couples s. No difference.
I know someone in my city who did this and he has a few kids with his ex wife and went on a few tv shows to talk about why it works. But since then he has gotten a divorce and now co parents his children with her. Ultimately it never works out in the long run. You can not be happy in a life or in a relationship that truly doesn't fit your needs for happiness. He now has a boyfriend and is being more open and honest about why his marriage to a woman was never going to work, he was truly just so unfulfilled in the relationship despite how much he cared for his ex wife as a person. As another gay person who knows his story i'm glad he chose to find true happiness for himself in a relationship that will emotionally fulfill him.
Exactly..
agreed
Yeah, temporal happiness is most important!!
Lizette Ramirez Miranda true, it doesn’t matter who and who will going to be happy or not, as long the person’s heart had a connection to another person’s then they’ll be happy. Sexuality doesn’t matter:)
HAHAHA You'r lying to your self dude just be gay get a boyfriend or husband your kids will understand.
At a 11:33 when he said "Today is hard, and today I wish I had something else..." She replied "right..." But she kind of looked like someone just punched her right in the gut... My heart hurts for both of them. They both seem like loving and involved parents and great friends... But I think this would be hard. It reminds me of Josh and Lolly. So heartbreaking.
He's being cruel to tell her this. Could you imagine straight marriage if everytime one met someone they thought was more attractive physically, emotionally and/or relationally, that they told their spouse they were "struggling today".....that would make for a pretty miserable marriage for all involved. One has to determine if marriage is about being true to your spouse and your own beliefs or just about living for the moment. The other gay guy who divorced his wife and left his kids wasn't just "attracted to men" but had gender dysphoria and was playing the part of a wife in his new homosexual relationship.
@@CM-sy3to umm how is he the “wife” in a gay relationship? There’s no wife. That’s the point.
i don't think they could move beyond Salt Lake and have it work... they're held in place by literal community, community ideals and their commitments , their biz, but they're in a cultural bubble , like "PLeasantville' the movie where everyone was back in the1950s...)
@@markusskand9773 That's a good form of protection for them, I hope they are able to hold it together
@@CM-sy3to I mean ya but at some point as a woman and as a human you have to realize that is beyond you.imagine if you had to be with the sexual partner u were not attracted to. I'm sure you would struggle as well!
I feel so sad for BOTH the husband and wife. Although I wish them the very best, there’s no way this “marriage” will ever work out. Plus, when the interviewer asked if he had ever been with a man at 1:44, I didn’t believe his response for a second.
Absolutely
He must lie for 99.999%
Easy to notice. He didn't say a damn word Lmaooo
Well there’s another video of an elderly couple just like this. They’ve been married for years now. Sooooo jokes on you :/
You know it's possible for a male to save himself till marriage. Just saying.
These situations are so complicated and difficult. This can be a serious issue. I come from a part of the world where being openly gay is still not easy, especially not for men, and especially if they are the only son in the family. Lots of men struggle so much even to just acknowledge and accept themselves that they might be gay, let alone forming a relationship with another man without hiding it from everyone. It's so sad, why can't we just let people love who they love? It doesn't affect straight people in any way! Lots of gay men try to force themselves to be straight and date women, which causes a lot of collateral damage. I fell in love with a gay man twice, once when i was 18, and once when i was 29. In both cases I did suspect they might be gay, but they openly pursued me, and I had no proof. Both situations ended very badly, with both sides being hurt. I felt confused, manipulated, like something was wrong with me and like my view of the situation was not real or valid. I wouldn't wish that situation upon anyone. Both of those men were wonderful people, and we could have had beautiful friendships, if they weren't forced by social norms to pretend they were straight, and if they could've been honest with themselves and with me. The first guy went into severe depression for 3 years after our relationship, until he was finally able to accept that he's gay and find love with a man. The second guy still doesn't admit that he's gay, although it's a public secret that his best friend is actually his partner. So much emotional pain and trauma caused by unacceptance of gay people, it's deeply unfair and sad. If you can't be open-minded enough to just leave gay people alone for their sake, then at least do it for your own sake - how would you feel if you or someone you care for ends up in a relationship like that, simply because of stupid social stigma? Let people love who they love. It's not your business.
I agree with you
As that type of guy I can relate
Because God doesn't approve.
@@jjcam56 your God has a lot of free time to fret about men marrying men, but turns a blind eye towards the thousands being raped on a daily basis?
oh, Thank you greatly for sharing that. As a 60 year recovering Catholic gay man, I struggled with both internalized homophobia , and trying to date women and "do the "Right thing", but i couldn't muster 'second dates' !... Ghosting ! haha ... the whole period was full of guilt , shame & heaviness. I'm glad I made it to 60 as I had much low-self esteem based on Manipulative stupid church teachings and the confusion of the 1980s. AIDS was a whole other layer of weird fear shit... I'm glad i let go of trying to prove anything !!! xoxox
I know a couple in a mixed-orientation marriage who has been happily married for 20 years now. They have 5 children together and the husband has been openly gay even before he met his wife. The wife also entered their marriage knowing that and i dunno how they do it but they somehow make it work... Maybe they’re the exception in this instance i dunno... But hearing Blaine say, “Today was bad. Today i wish i had something else.” really made my heart break for this particular couple. 💔 I dunno how Lindsay can hear that and not feel terrible... 💔
It's their insane religious beliefs that keep them trapped. They both believe he won't go to the celestial kingdom unless he marries a woman: that's the Mormon dogma. It's so incredibly sad. Stop romanticizing the bullshit they tell themselves.
It's okay to say, "I love you, and I will always be here for you, but I know you're not the one and we both deserve to be happy."
How did they make 5 kids
@@biruss RESPONSIBILITY !!! - LDS Church is a CULT that has pressure to reproduce ! GO VISIT UTAH where everyone is a COUSIN of each other !!!
If sex is so important to you that you are willing to sacrifice a family over a great sexual experience, then that is an individual choice. I just think some people feel there are things in life MORE IMPORTANT that sexual gratification. Seems like this mixed-orientation couple have chosen other aspects of a relationship to focus on. People in this comment section act like sex is the most important thing in a person's life but I am sure many people have "settled" on partners where the sex is not great but the relationship is good. Do you leave someone just because the sex is not great (I mean maybe you do, again individual choice)? Some people choose the other aspects of relationships that satisfy them over sexual satisfaction. Once you reach a certain age you realize sex isn't that important, it is nice when sex and love and marriage all line up, but I have very rarely seen ANY couple who remain in LUST with each other after years of marriage.
I wonder how many gay and or lesbian daughters, He fathered, that will suffer the same fate. Maybe not. Society is changing.
I been married for 25 years now with a women. She's aware of my bi sexuality an we get alone just fine have two kids in their 20's. This type of relationship is not for every couple.
may i ask how you both make it work? and are bisexual with perference for men?
Bisexuals have no problem bro. They are attracted to both genders. Homosexuals are the unlucky ones😢😢😢😔
Blaine and Lindsay's marriage makes sense to me. They've been friends since school; their interests, religion and goals are the same and, as they point out - they communicate. Even if their marriage ends after the kids grow up, they have achieved a relationship many straight couples would envy.
I must add though that he must be more bisexual than gay -> I simply could not have sex with a woman.
Having sex with a woman doesn't mean you are attacted to her. The mind is a powerful tool. He is a self proclaimed gay. Not bisexual.
@@Salucent but he said in the video that he finds it enjoyable?
It seems that he has sex with her because he loves her, but he's not attracted to her. Seems pretty gay to me. But who knows, I'm not the gatekeeper queen of the bisexuals.
Agree. This is a particular case in which they were very close friends and apparently communicate well. After all according to many scientists humans are naturally made for short term monogamy, so even if they split in the future, it would have been a successful pairing in scientific terms.
@@sheenajae that’s like having sex with a family member or best friend cus you love them. I’m confused how he gets aroused initially
Living in Utah I can say a ton of people get married to people they're not attracted to you because of pressures from the church but that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with their sexuality. A lot of the strait couples hate each other too.
But what if you’re gay but you fell in love with a person/individual who just happens to be a woman? I mean there are couples where the man came out as trans or gay to his wife but the attraction and love s/he has towards his wife goes beyond just sexual desire and attraction.
There are millions of people who are in arranged marriages as part of their culture and yet live a happy & fulfilled married life while there are others who choose their partner and live an unfulfilled married life.
There are also people who have a happy open marriage which works for them.
Bottomline is People are just complicated! We are in no position to judge people and their relationships. None of us are arbiters of the “best” or “happy” marriages.
I think Blaine and Lindsay are an ideal couple. If we truly support LOVEWINS and the acceptance of ALL orientations then we should also accept and respect the decision of different orientation marriages.
Let us be TRULY practice the love wins movement and provide the support and safe space to others that we wish people gave us. ☺️
That would be called a platonic friendship then wouldn't it? Can't be called a real relationship. If they are attracted to the opposite gender on all fronts then they can no longer be called gay or lesbian. They would be bisexual or straight.
@@huitzilopochtli_tenochtitl496 so true
So soooooo strange. Gaslighting yourself into a fake life. Having your husband telling you that ''this is a hard gay day'' Wow. I mean, how much more can you be in denial as HIS wife.
I’m a non-LDS gay man in his mid-30s. I’ve been through many unhappy homosexual relationships, and I want children more than anything-that is the MOST important thing in my life and in vitro/surrogacy is practically unobtainable for me financially. At my age, a heterosexual relationship where I’m honest with myself about her doesn’t seem as crazy as it did a decade ago. Call me crazy but this video is helpful and a viable option for me and the minority of gay men like me. Thank you for this. What do you think??
This is so Interesting. Maybe give it a try as long as you're honest about your feelings and upfront w her. Have you ever been attracted to a woman at all?
Did you ever liked women
Test your desire on pornography before engaging, even if you can't do it on pleasure you will have it over time, Some people develop homosexual orientation but were not born with it , I believe such cases are reversible.
At least its a choice , I don't think many people want to be gay especially christians so if the option is this other than loneliness and Gods detest as well as public detest I'd rather the hypocrisy especially the fact that hypocrites don't necessarily get condemned to hell
@@filmi6873 I've liked women because I have to and the bible says to , but I don't like them sexually and I get depressed thinking of sex with them but I want to get married and only have sex to procreate
I know some people think their marriage won't work but I think it will because they were best friends first. That's the strongest foundation.
Wt abt sex? Will it haappen
He laughs and seems happy enough in the video, but he's probably screaming inside a lot of the time.
He's obviously narcissistic and pathological liar.
No i don't think so
Yes, you can definitely tell. He looks like his body is forming a tumor of lies and deceit.
That doesent make any goddamn sense to me...
Dude if you are gay you are gay. Live your life how you want. Lifes to short to cut yourself short. Thats coming from a happily married straight dude with several gay friends.
He does exactly that.
exactly,Life is short and we live once. So we have to listen to gods word. (I'm not Trying to fight so yeah)
Dumbest thing ever.
Why would you marry somebody who you don’t love?
What’s the point of that?
I think he loves her, even loves her enough to want to raise children with her. I think it'd be really cool if it became a thing that people could raise children with those that they love platonically, like a platonic marriage. That could be between people of any gender as well.
Idk how I could marry a man that looks at other men the same way I do
I think they were married when he came out, but don't believe in divorce.
You'll be surprised
To me they are frauds.! They've deceived their spouses and denied them the opportunity to engage in a conventional relationship.. They are a disgrace. No good.
Then don't to each her own🤔
Same with the roles were reversed. Just unnatural and weird.
This is definitely complicated. I read a story about a gay man falling for a woman. He’s still attracted to men and does not have attraction for other women. In the story the character tries to understand his feelings by getting to know her as a friend while also dating men he eventually realized the joy attraction and happiness he feels when he’s with her and also felt jealousy when she’s with other men. At first he thought he was jealous because other men was attracted to her but realized how he hated them touching her and had a point where he thought he wants to be the only one she hugs, hold hands with, kiss etc. That’s when he realized he fell for this girl. For him it didn’t matter what the gender was but it’s the person that he fell for. The story goes on with him trying to attract his future wife while she only saw him as her gay best friend. He sort of uses that to his advantage to get close to her while also seducing her with his charm. I can’t remember the name but it’s really funny since it talks about him doing things like coming out of the bathroom wet with just a towel wrapped around his waist and asking her to dry his hair and shes just like alright sit down without a reaction which disappointed him.
What story is that? I'm curious
Don't leave us hanging, can you try to remember the name
May be he wasn’t gay but bi .
@@sonarai1454 possibly. But you can go from gay to straight, only through divine intervention though. Jesus Christ.
Yes, as a gay man I was married for 20 years. No children, very little fukking, but a great friendship. Ended it after a 26 year friendship.
Who decided to end up your marriage.
Did u feel it to be disgusting? Please reply.....
They look happy to me. In life, there are no guarantees and no one survives it. All we can do is pursue happiness and maybe sometimes we find it.
Omg. And this guy is therapist. He is the one actually have problem.
Lexus L 🤣🤣 Truth!
This is so ignorant and disrespectful
Kristal Marie okay SJW
@@bigmeatyclawzz
wha- how?
this comment or the video?
Kristal Marie wdym the comment or the forced marriage? I’m assuming the ladder!
This seems forced and unhealthy! Stuff that...
You can’t judge their relationship!
@I despise straight men wtf???
I feel bad for him and he's not af
“He makes delicious scrambled eggs, what more could you ask for?”
XD ME
Omg the female reporter is gorgeus.
Your pfp is gorgeous😍
I think the guy is
Up your standards bruh
@@PrettyboiYTwow do you mean it? Ur a sweatheart you.. thanks bro i think i gonna date her
@@youremybiggestfan ok goodluck haha
Some women do love gay men. Gay men are nice to be around they give you compliments help you with make up and give you attention.
Karenmarie Pomba Gira preach I agree
Agree!
And alot are marriage material like me
@@dannybravo3476 what do you plan to do on the honeymoon
It would be hard to not have your husband find you attractive I admit. They do seem relatively happy though . Why, not have a church who accepts you for who you are though?
No christian church does.
Why not leave church altogether. Christianity is a cult, just like Islam.
@@huitzilopochtli_tenochtitl496
But islam is worst million times
Well that wouldn't make it a church would it?
As a closet gay lds girl this um is scaring me
you were made this way for a reason, please don't get into one of these marriages. god loves you no matter what and he wants you to be happy:)
Rosemary Schaefer god doesn’t love gays
EA17 God doesn’t love haters
@@ea1766 God doesn't love people who like their own comments
@@Rmh67839 No one made this way... why are you lying? Ah I see... to be nice.
The interviewer is SO kind and empathic!😢❤️
When that poor young man was tearfully speaking of his suicidal thoughts,her eyes were getting misty too😢💔
You could see her soft kindness and that she hurt for him.💔
Note to Beck Bennett and Kate McKinnon, this would be a great sketch for you two on SNL!!!
Daniel Stack and the woman looks like her!
Call me a hater but there is no love in that marriage. She is doing it for charity and “heaven points” and he’s doing it because he doesn’t want to go to hell.
You are not hater,you are honest 👍💯,there is no god actually,if people believe in spirituality it's best to chose Buddhism like liberal religion than abrahamics
It's very utilitarian and an Espace from hateful world.
@@Tamil_Atheist2023There is God but It's your opinion if you say if there's no God.. But I don't think you should just tell people there's no God, at the end of the day we never know. So just don't assume and stuff
@@Moon_light12392 there is no evidence a god matching the description proposed by any major religion exists.
There have been numerous studies to try to prove divine interference or to provide evidence towards the claims of certain religions, and none of them have produced results in favor of religion. These studies do provide evidence against these religious claims.
What we cannot prove or disprove is that there was some kind of higher being that set in motion the creation of our universe. However, all evidence suggests that said being either does not influence our lives directly, or at the very least is not at all like how religions describe them.
Wait they actually had kids together? 🤭
बच्चे कैसे पैदा हो गए ... मजा आता होगा तो बच्चे पैदा हो गया इसमें घंटा कुछ है साले
@@onlyap6314 they do have kids. Either Ivf or natural
in here many of them have kids and they secretly slept with men too
Hello!!!! Gay men (and women) have been forced to marry and have kids for thousands of years. There's nothing surprising here.
He must therefore be bisexual.
I am a straight woman and I want companionship of a gay. I am very feminine and masculinity proves just too much for me. I don't mind living virgin all my life, I just want a more compassionate companion. A gay person might just be the one. I don't think I would mind if the person gets physical with other men at the same time....
I think that might appeal to some closested gay men. A lavendar relationship
Hello where u from? Trying to find myself and willing to see if this is something that could work for me!
Hi
Shrada mishra how are u
I need your no shradha ..can we talk .
I've had no idea this was actually a thing. I'm the first born child to preachers, they don't about me being gay though...
when i discovered myself around the age of 12 i fought against it after hearing the community members, colleagues, family and the church constantly talk down against the lgbt community
i fought from 12 to my mid 20s... from willing myself to change, prayer + fast to change, even had 3 girlfriends in an attempt to change but nothing.
after my 3rd girlfriend and I went our separate ways i decided to stop fighting and accept myself for what i am
a lot of people claim "being gay is a choice. you may have the feelings inside but you dont have to give in to it"
but im sure if a gay man asks to marry their daughters because its the "right thing" or "against the religion" theyd most likely refuse because they wont want their daughter enduring a complicated relationship like that
so my thing is if you dont want me to put your daughter through that, why should i put someone else's... unless you expect me to live a life of celibacy and lonliness
I did the same as you did when I realised I like men, I fought against it. Do you know what's hilarious about this whole thing though? When i tried to force muself to like girls, I couldn't at all, but after I stopped believing in most of the Christian doctrine and started accepting myself and exploring other religions, I realised that I'm actually slightly bi. Isn't that just priceless. I started liking some girls when it was no longer a necessity for me to like them 😂. I still mostly go for guys though
@pierewoest2997 thanks for sharing. glad you found your path
Omg. Ihad the same experience. Praying part hits hard. 😔but no use i think im gonna reveal to my family that im not getting married
Even as a gay man, I can understand why the gay partner may wish to have the social respectability and conformity of marriage and chance to have a family. What I find hard to understand is how it works for a heterosexual spouse to be marriage to somebody who is gay.
This is a domestic partnership at this point. I'm a lesbian. I'm allowed to come out freely and would like to live freely. There is enough stress in life. Good on them, not for me.
A lot of women are naturally chaste, so they might be up for a marriage where they get a lot of affection and emotional support without the demand for frequent sex.
I know the subject matter of this video is slightly different because of the religion aspect, but you have to remember that some people make this choice freely. Two years ago one of my best friends, who is not religious at all, married her best friend, a gay man. They are soulmates in an utterly committed and loving platonic relationship. Their marriage is sexually open (because they are not really a couple) but they live together and care for each other in every way. It works for them and though they face judgement, they're genuinely one of the sweetest and most affectionate pairs I've ever seen.
I agree that there's something messy about relationships like the one in the video- although, hey! free choices- but there are people in the comments here saying such a mixed-orientation could "never work". This is simply not true. If a relationship is truly loving, whoever it involves, then it can work.
I’m sorry that sounds like friendship with extra steps. kinda like they just settled because they couldn’t find relationships on their own. Platonic relationships are just friendships . Being married friends is nothing compared to marrying someone your actually attracted to.Either way a mixed orientation relationship should not be encouraged just like marrying someone for money. If you make that choice it’s on you, don’t recommend it or encourage it to people.
@@Dellennickolis95 not everyone care about religion nor romantic shit. Someone can marry a man despite being a man, and someone can marry opposite sex despite being gay. Marriage is subjective, and getting less important anyway that two straight girls could married just because they feel it would be cute. also, there is this thing called "divorce" when you have enough of your marriage.
@@Dellennickolis95 Lmao judgmental why u always say they'll not last long I mean in our country this relationship is common homo married hetero and lesbians married gay but they've healthy relationship lmao cause even hetero couples not all will last long just like the celebrity that got married for 1day and got divorced afterwards.
@@Dellennickolis95 I agree, everything that is a joke is seen as serious these days. A marriage involves sexual, physical and emotional attraction. If he is gay, then it is not really a marriage. He is using her as a shield to conceal his real identity which he should be free to live. Everybody wants their cake and eat it these days.
If you could get over the fact that it is their insane, false religious beliefs keeping them both trapped in such "an arrangement", you would be able to see that they're both suffering and absolutely would not be in this kind of situation otherwise. Thanks again, religion.
It’s better to live your truest life, and be your truest self.
Pretending to be someone you’re not is just gonna hurt.
That’s not how it works some have the attraction too a male but for 100% don’t want a male they have romantic feelings for woman tho which are strong than they doit and have sex get childeren etc that’s how.
@@hichambarhmi6670 true what you have said. Gay men can sexually satisfy their wifes, but they can't take sexual energy from their wifes.
Jordyn Rolling radiates empathy. what a beautiful person
"Today was just a really bad gay-day" 😂😂😂
People don't realize how fluid sexuality can be through out a person's life. Many of your straight spouses explore, but then again, they wouldn't tell you. I seen it many times
Agreed. People aren't so black.and white !
Oh shut up you neo conservisonist. This has nothing to do with sexuality fluidity. He's brainwashed
@@blainefiasco8225 Nope, I respectfully disagree, many straight people experiment, it is call, getting to know what you really like,. and then many of them get marry heterosexually.
@@fridaymanly Sure, but the topic at hand is not about experimenting at all.
@@blainefiasco8225 No it isn't, but what i am talking about relates to the video's subject and it is a reality of life that is extremely taboo
There are as many types of relationships as people in the world, every person is different. Some things will work for some that might never work for others. I have a deep level of respect for people who enter a relationship with full honesty, knowing well what they are getting into and trying to make it work. Blaine and Lindsay´s relationship might not work for most people, and could probably make many miserable, but it seems to have worked for them for 15 years. I respect that.
As an ex-mormon I know a dirty little secret that they don't want to tell outsiders. People are absolutely bullied into staying in marriages. If you are mormon and you get a divorce you are seen as an outsider and ostracized. The immense social pressure keeps miserable couples together, I have seen it ruin hundreds of lives.
@@xXEGPXx YEP. having had TWO former LDS Elder gay friends and roomates , Yep.
@@xXEGPXx what's mormon? But by how u pharse it ig it means a gay lerson married to straight? N do they really get bullied? Bcs idk :D n thanks
Yeah. After hearing his story he seems very much bisexual.
As a gay man this makes me uncomfy 😔
Braxton Bruch same bro I’m a trans pan guy it makes me super uncomfortable
So true man
They are weird, but I have to say people are diff
@Layered Hollister Polos no
Same bro. As a bisexual man, I've never been sure if I am going to married a girl or a boy. It feels like everybody in my family and my community staring at me and forcing me to be straight whick makes me uncomfortable and depressed
This woman would have to have an Insane sense of security. Kudos for her for being next-level openminded. I truly wish the best for them and their kids!
Yea either that or an insane level of *insecurity*
@@Svenshineno one forced her husband to marry her. He obviously loves her and chose her above everyone else. Some people can't do it because they are not strong enough nor open minded enough. I have a personal friend who is very spiritual and although he is gay, he chose to marry a woman that he loved and was very good friends with. No one forced him and she doesn't need him. They are fully aware of the complexity of their situation. I personally don't know if I would ever marry a man knowing he was gay. But I would never say never. I wish this amazing couple many blessings and many more years of happiness, love, and good health.❤❤
1:44 delusion. convince yourself.
This is so hard to watch, someone deny themself 24/7, you can even hear his pain in his voice.
Yes but he must be atleast bisexual, so there must be some attraction. Surely a gay man wouldn't be able to carry on with a circus act for this long.
@@huitzilopochtli_tenochtitl496 he might have been able to lie to himself long enough that he believes it too, whatever he is doing is saddening.
@M. Sami are you suggesting gay people are collectively coming together in the thousands to date the same sex as a giant scheme to trick society into thinking they exist?
@@alonelychannel1846 Perfect answer 👍.
@M. Sami hey man, i appreciate the thought, but i don’t give two shits about sexual orientation change through religion. just leave people alone, let them live their life. i promise, gay people want nothing to do with you or your religious conversion therapy.
“Today was a bad gay day. Wish I had something else”. Like a dick lol
Jesus.
God I hate this conflation
Lmao
Mixed orientation marriages are not a recipe for true happiness
I'm a lesbian who has been in a relationship with a boy for almost two years, he's the love of my life, we have a fulfilling sex life and an open relationship so we can both explore our sexualities, but he's the only one I'm in love with and I want to marry him :)
@look behind you
u could be either bisexual or bi-curious, a lesbian is a women who is attracted and dates women (obviously), so you are probably not a lesbian if you're attracted/or love the guy, you could love him as a friend sure but I don't think lesbians love guys romantically lol. ur probably a heteroromantic bisexual, meaning you experience attraction to both genders but you only feel like dating opposite-sex, sorry if I got it wrong but you don't seem like a lesbian because you just said you are dating a guy. :)
@@insect2696 you're definitely not a lesbian then. You could be bisexual.
@@insect2696 um your bisexual
@ im not bisexual. I just love my boyfriend nomatter what genitals he has
I met someone 2 years ago, in a very strange, impossible situation (no adultery, something else). The crushing was so overwhelming from both sides. When he looked at me, it was fire. I had never felt that energy of 'I WANT you', mixed with so much pure love at the same time. And he was gay. And it was an impossible situation. I've never had so much heartache in my entire life. I thought I was going to die from heart pain. Must have been something spiritual. But impossible in this life. Ultimately, the problem was also that in the end, he was not as brave and honest as I am. We did not have the same standards in that regard. He was a bit of a shape shifter (lots of 'white lies'). A bad communicator and a bit of a chicken. So, it probably never would have worked out anyway. Pffff.... this love stuff can be so complicated. I still cry when I think of him sometimes. I will always love him.
This man is a therapist that helps people reconcile their sexual orientation! What the fuck! Does he also realize he is enabling denial, emotional abuse, repression of emotions and ones true self?
Exactly, this very unhealthy
Pathetic! Especially since he realizes it can’t be changed, he’s passing down repression
I don't recall him saying he helped people reconcile their sexual orientations, did he? Because he could well be a therapist who doesn't deal with that topic. But even if he did, who's to say he would advise his patients to do what he did? I mean he says they will support their kid being gay and pursuing gay relationships.
I find this slightly disturbing, not because gay man/straight woman or straight man/gay woman shouldn't be able to do what makes them mutually happy, because they should and I'm fully supportive. In fact, many marriages coexist peacefully in which either the husband or the wife is bisexual and has the freedom to seek out same-sex partners outside the marriage with their spouse's blessing in order to allow the sentimental and familial bond of of love and obligation they share to exist without any undue hindrance. However, my only qualms stem from the fact that this arrangement appears to have been arrived at only as a way of fitting into a Church-sanctioned paradigm of sorts, an already worrisome motivation, but especially so in a Church which still views LGBTQ+ members as alien creatures to be 'tolerated' rather than fully embraced and given the freedom to marry whomever they actually LOVE and are attracted to, both physically and sentimentally.
Also, in response to the assertion made by the first mixed-orientation wife, Lindsay Hickman, to the effect that her husband chose her 'out of all the boys and the girls,' I would have to disagree for it appears as though he chose her simply because she was his only viable option if he wished to be gay and married in the Mormon Church.
To the wife: Have you ever been with another man?
Wife: Hahah no? Uhhhh, never. Hah. No?? Uhh. 😰
I think love is love,it is possible for a gay man and a straight female to fall in love. I respect this couples relationship, n it is normal for them to fall in love. I think they both respect each other aswell. If it didnt work out well at least they tried and did have a relationship
Only if he was bisexual not gay,Gays may have platonic relationship not fall in love
"a mixed orientation marriage have two things in common , money and guilt " end of. Why would she sell herself short this way
Omg just get a divorce and be happy 🙄
Moh Ishaq they look happy idiot
He is happy, be tolerant of his lifestyle
But she is not@@mrepix8287
I want a family, and I'd rather marry than grow old alone and having meaningless hookups that never go anywhere. I want something traditional and gay men won't provide that. I prefer feminine energy, shapes and mannerisms, though I'm neutral towards women physically. Not opposed.
Same here.
@@Zelly2001 same here in middle east , its very painful
Same. Marrying a guy and adopting kids that are biologically not yours is completely meaningless.
OK, to all the commenters: he was even told by his parents that they'd accept him no matter what, AND HE STILL CHOSE HER!!!! That's not to downgrade the pain and misery of people such as the other guy in the video, or of anyone who identifies as gay and constantly feels judged. I'm LDS, and I've seen for myself and through fellow members' accounts that even within a Church that couldn't possibly emphasize more the need to speak kindly and show Christlike love and attributes to ALL of God's children, gay or straight (though some on here, due to the Church's stance on marriage, would disagree - to which I say, "That's OK - you're free to your opinion"), there are plenty of busybodies who live the "church culture" rather than Church teachings - my family is a bit different. I don't mean to equate my personal experiences with that of others which were most definitely worse, but we've had some wards (or "congregations" as you might call them) where I felt that bitter sting of loneliness and being cut off from everyone because my family didn't fit that perfect little Molly Mormon mold. So, sadly, it doesn't surprise me to hear about members feeling ostracized or and judged from fellow members who think they know what they're talking about but really don't (keep in mind, the Church may have a firm stance on marriage, but our leaders have also countless times taught that we should spread love, kindness, and acceptance to people with same-sex attraction . . . including those who disagree with that stance. So it's not a Church issue, it's a "culture" issue). That said, that doesn't give anyone the right to tell these people not to try to make it. If he married her simply because marrying a woman was the right thing to do, or if he were trying to "fix" his same-sex attraction, I'd say differently. But that's not the case - he *chose* her. And I'll point out, too, that *she* chose *him* - I say that, because as much misery and suffering as many homosexual people already go through in the Church, for some that causes even *more* heartache - the idea even someone of the opposite sex refuses to marry a gay person. This leaves them feeling even *more* judged and ostracized. The fact that she doesn't judge him may very well be what got him to choose her. And, finally, what of people who *aren't* so religious and are gay (homosexual activity and everything, and fully identify as gay or lesbian) and yet suddenly find that *one* person of the other sex who throws them through a loop? Heck, there's an article out there about a lesbian who wound up marrying her egg donor and daughter's biological father. Look it up, if you don't believe me. These people typically say that their attraction is more emotional than sexual (which is what I'd imagine true love actually is, anyway). Are we going to tell *them* that their feelings for each other aren't real? Isn't saying a mixed-orientation relationship such as the one in the video is doomed to fail a slap in *their* faces? Because they will tell you it's every bit as real as their relationships with anyone of the same sex (in some cases, even more so).
Just don't judge someone else's marriage and relationships based on bias. That's all I'm trying to say.
So,,,,,, you don't hate gays, do you?
@@benmelman9505 I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. No, I don't hate anyone. The only thing I hate here is the hypocritical judgment people are making here - that the same people who expect others to accept them and whoever they choose to live with/marry are commenting on here that the couple featured in this video shouldn't be together. If we're going to promote "marriage equality" and diversity without judgment, shouldn't that apply to these guys, too?
@@danielleswensen1543 And I agree with you 100%.
As someone who is ex-Mormon, I can tell you 100% that you're living in a fantasy world to ever think that this "relationship" is anything less than insanity...yes, foisted upon this poor man and woman (and children) thanks to their insane religious beliefs. He does NOT need to be married to a woman, but believes this to be the case so that he can go to the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom. Please get a grip on reality before you hurt more people with your mental gymnastics.
@@veganreignmaker Hmmm . . . So . . . You're telling me . . . That a gay man shouldn't be able to choose to marry whoever he wants? AND if you watched the video, they said that his parents told him it'd be completely OK if he married a man. AND he said, when given the choice between the Church and his marriage with his wife, he would choose his marriage. Might want to consider that his love for her might actually be genuine? There's a lot more to love - even romantic love - than lusting after each other. And there is a VAST difference between being "realistic" and outright judging someone else's situation and experience just for being different from others. I've even had some gay people - as in even have S.O.s of the same sex - say that a mixed orientation marriage *can* work. If you don't believe people should be judged for who they marry, then I highly suggest you start practicing that, yourself, before accusing others of "mental gymnastics".
How about just not getting married? Ever thought of that. People still believe in the marriage scam
People can get married if they want, it's up to them.
@@sillyman2 no shit. But these people think marriage is the only option for them even though they’re not attracted sexually.
@@sillyman2don't encourage mixed orientation marraiges they are doing it because of religion
@@mollyoxypeer pressure, religion, old age broblems etc ifykyk
What’s in it for the husband / dad? Does he have to repress his sexual desires & feelings to make the church look good?
He must be bisexual atleast.
Pretty much.
He doesn’t want to be sexually involved with men because it violates his personal sense of morality, it doesn’t ultimately have to be about the church, but his own sense of conscience.
@@sexykitten0814 That is incorrect. Opposition to homosexuality exclusively comes from religious sources. There is no logical secular reason to be anti-gay
@@xXEGPXx That’s actually the point.
Everyone isn’t interested in a secular life.
For many people, their personal sense of morality and conscience is strongly tied to their religious beliefs.
If someone believes part of his “commitment to God”, means to make the decision not to engage in behavior that he does not believe would meet with God’s approval, that’s his business and his entitlement.
There are people who feel the same way about heterosexual sex outside of a marriage, and elect not to engage it, despite their urges.
As I said, it comes down to everyone having and living by their own beliefs.
Well, it's just simple, if you're gay but you are forced to marry a woman by for example your parents, you ain't gonna be happy, BUT, if you're gay and there is a woman you like LIKE and you really want something with her, I think it can work out
Amin Faka then he’s not really gay , he’s A Bisexual man lol & I do think that if he’s bisexual yes it can workout Because he has attraction to females still , but if he’s a straight up gay dude then no cause sooner or later he’s going to want a guy .
@@CandanceOnline yeah probably
this is me forced now days for marriage,its very hard
@@MSami-fm6veSane here
There is nothing called "if u r gay and u like a woman"(friendship excluded). If u r gay you wont like a woman romantically or sexually even if you try hard
It's clear that Blaine and Lindsay love each over so much that their different orientations mean absolutely nothing to them, which is good! If you love each other, and a heterosexual relationship is what you-either a gay man or lesbian woman want, then i say go for it. I support this type of relationship just as much as i support both straight and gay/lesbian relationships!
I had a crush which was developed to a deeper feelings to a gay boy when I was younger. I understand this
The woman married to the gay man looks lesbian. They are both cute though ❤️❤️
I agree on the “tag”. Unfair for people who are straight and blindsided later on... like me... I could have had a better life 😭
If I may ask what happened with you and your partner?
Agree!!!
U too 🤦
This couple has greater commitment to their church and its cultural and social pressures than they do to themselves or each other. They both exercise a severe level of self-deception and have gaslit themselves into a reality that is distorted and severed from who they truly are. Sex isn’t everything in a relationship. But, it sure is a barometer. Both partners are allowed to want to feel desired by the other. We should feel fully connected to our special person through all means available to us in this life: Mentally, amicably, spiritually, physically, emotionally, and yes, even sexually. How unsettling that this wife does not acknowledge how unequal this relationship is. According to his religious beliefs, she’s his ticket into heaven. He’s willing to allow her to go this entire life questioning his desire for her, all under the duress that it’s a necessary and eternal sacrifice to be made in this life. God wants his children to experience joy. Is this truly their joy? Or, have they backed themselves into a mindset and commitment they feel powerless to escape? It’s sad that this couple has committed to a partnership of consolation, rather than one of passionate conviction, transparency, and authenticity. I think it’s commendable they value marrying your best friend, but we are creatures capable of deeper physical love & connection, worthy of so much more joy than this.
So beautifully explained 👍
This isn’t anyone’s business, and not an outsider’s place to judge.
Not everyone values sexual behavior and preferences as priority in a marriage or relationship.
If it is most important to these people to have a traditional heterosexual marriage and a conventional family, while respecting their morals, that’s their prerogative.
No one is under duress here, as they are consenting adults who have every right and ability to choose whom they marry.
No outsider is in a position to assume the they can’t have a happy and fulfilling relationship.
I’m sure it has its own challenges, but arranged marriages existed for centuries, when marriage wasn’t really a choice and was necessary for survival and heirship, as it was the only way people could have children.
This obviously included gay people, and yet people most often still managed to find happiness and even love with each other eventually.
It all comes down to personal choice and priorities.
Most intelligent comment here. The rest of the comments are ridiculous because they seem to come from zealot Christians who think it is okay to live a lie for the sake of God who hasn't been proven to exist.
@@sexykitten0814 Everything you said only further supports my argument. Self-deception is the primary energy in this relationship.
You have just equated this marriage to the antiquated arranged marriages of the past. Aren’t we way past that in our day? Just because something was done in the past doesn’t give it automatic acceptance to be done in the present. We should evolve and move beyond our mistakes and shortcomings in relationships. Not cling to tradition as a way to justify the poor decisions made in the present.
The determination to ignore the red flags this marriage scenario presents is symptomatic of your own willingness to self-deceive, yet you will wear that mindset like a badge of honor as if your support for their privacy and intimate decisions is the “woke” thing to do. When truly, it couldn’t be more perpetuating of the unhealthy and deceitful relationships that exist among the religious communities these people exist.
@@DesigNatedAudio What I said does not validate your argument at all.
On the contrary, it shows your bias to your own way of thinking, namely in that you assume that people you don’t even know, must be self deceptive, and unhappy,
since they value sex and marriage/relationships differently than you do.
Those antiquated arranged marriages of the past are not only outdated in today’s world because they were based on survival, practically, and political association, but also, because people today, unlike then, have options unavailable to people of the world long ago, and therefore, now have every right to exercise choice.
These are competent, consenting adults who have made their choices when it comes to such priorities, and to assume that they aren’t, because they think differently than yourself, or the status quo, is just as judgmental and narrow minded, as people accuse the fundamentally religious of being so, when it comes to not supporting homosexual relationships.
You may not be religious and that’s certainly your prerogative, as is the right to hold the opinion that the nature of sexual relationships is paramount to a couple’s happiness, as it typically is the case, since humans, in general, are sexual beings.
But don’t assume just because you and many others tend to feel that way, that means everyone else in the world has to as well.
People are all different and have different priorities.
For people whose religious beliefs are very important to them, being happy both in life and marriage/long term relationships, is very integral to being loyal to their own personal sense of moral conviction.
It’s much like supporting the relationships between gay individuals.
It’s not for anyone else to determine what constitutes a happy and fulfilling life or marriage for someone else, only the individuals involved can truly know that.
If they come to feel it isn’t working for them, that’s between them as well and it’s their choice to change it or not.
Just like in supporting the LGBT community, in their rights to have relationships, it’s all about live and let live, not,
“Your way of thinking and feeling is wrong, or dismal, because it’s different than I think it should be.”
Marriage:who are you?
Gay marriage: I am you.
Marriage:I am me?
Gay marriage:no, sir you are you
Marriage: I don’t know
Gay marriage: two is two.
These are both marriages kiddo
Marriage: No offense, but I was given an actual holy sanction. The guy and gal are biologically made to fit anyway.
Gay Marriage: LOVE is LOVE. Don't toss me aside so easily!
Marriage: I haven't really don't anything. But honestly, you look more like two best buds holing up with each other purely out of a need to avoid solitude. When "Love" becomes your idol, and you completely give yourself over to it, your reasoning and common sense get tossed aside.
Gay Marriage: #@R$%@#$%@#$%@!$%#$!!!!
Marriage: And I'm not saying I'M for everyone! Het couples who rush into this are just as bad because they didn't take the time to really make it work!
@@1aundulxaldin did you just say that if two people of the same sex are getting married, they either actually dont love each other or their just really good best friends? Lmao 😂😂
@@jinqo7975 Yes. That is exactly what I meant.
I think two men can love each other but with same emotional and even physical (Like, think, HUGS) closeness as two brothers, or a pair of friends who respect one another's boundaries. I mean, sure you could even have two men living in the same residence like it was The Odd Couple or Full House or something, fine. But then perversion sets in and the sacredness with which Marriage is treated is distorted, when the two in question decide to force it into imitating the same kind of marital and sexual intimacy that can only exist between a man and woman, which is what God originally intended.
THAT said, I should've added, I need to clue you in on something critical.
No matter what legislative branch of government responsible for making up laws on the go to accommodate for a broader public appeal tells you, two men or two women getting married to each other DOESN'T count as an actual marriage. We have foreign countries' governments even today making up new rules that now say, "It's totally okay" even though it wasn't before, all just to keep the people it represents happy. Fact of the matter? Marriage remains traditionally as something that is, since the beginning of time and history, God ordained, lifelong commitment between a man and woman, for the purposes of not just pleasure but also of propagation.
@@1aundulxaldin The fact that Mormons believe only a man and woman married together can make it to the highest Celestial Kingdom is an insane belief, that only spawns suffering for gay people.
If you don't want to believe marriage is legitimate between anyone other than a man and a woman, that's okay for YOUR life...not okay for people who are born non-binary or hermaphrodite, or who want to know the truth about false Mormon dogma and actually care about the suffering of others.
Thank you so much. This is the first time I've seen a reporter who is not judgemental towards Christians. If all renters could be impartial and loving, that would be so great.
Reporters
This is just sad. I feel awful for the couple. For her to have to hear that and for him to have to marry a women to not remain celibate for late or leave the church and be ex-communicated is awful
I have met at least 4 couples that both are opposite sex but felt gay but are not indifferent to their partners, they really love each other and share many things and have children. They told me they chose family and love for sex. And sexual addiction was not an issue when they were young. And now that they are older they are so happy the choice they had. Having a same sex partner and making ivf children would not being their cupnof tea. They are old fashioned.
[1:50] Lindsay is exactly my type of woman. I would be faithfull to her,she is a gem.
My cousin is in a mixed orientation marriage for five years now, he was crying in his wedding day
Now he has a kid
It ve been a while since i saw him my mom says he's fine but im not sure 😭
I will never get my self in a mixed marriage omg
How did he convince himself to do it? I hope he comes to terms with his identity eventually.
@@y00ngii His family or his church would ex-communicate him probably.
Hence, the insanity of false religions. People being willing to do this instead of "being ex-communicated" is so sad...they still can't even see why it's insane, when everything points to it.
l don't wanna be the one but, when i read this, this shocked me. l feel so bad for the man.... l mean crying on your marriage day, that's suposed to be happy and fulfilling to me is crazy. l feel really sad now, l don't wanna say it but, l hope he got/gets a divorce sooner than later. For his own and his wife's sake. l too would cry if l was forced to marry a woman
What a powerful interview! Two couples, one mixed orientation opposite sex, one same sex. I believe that same sex marriage and opposite sex marriage are equally valid vocations. A vocation is divine inspired. By listening to God, we find our own vocation and are happy.
Although I am still young, I am afraid of the future. The worst feeling is when you are gay, but you can’t be because of the culture and the religion.
Dan Del, To thine own self be true xxxx
Bro you chose
Don't blame religion you can do whatever you want it's your life🖐🏻
@@zoeymckeown3194 which country supports this? UK?
see my other comments ... i went thru this 30 years ago... be true to yourself !!!
You can be gay. In my experience the worst feeling was the feeling I had before I came out and hoping mainly my family would be fine and also trying to process it all myself. Now I'm older and came out a while ago I feel like a weight has been lifted. I'm my true self and don't feel like I have to conform to society and the more I watch people being sucked in by religion, their culture and society, the happier I feel.
The beauty of being yourself is worth so much more than everyone's acceptance.
Just remember everyone just wants to be their true self in order to be happy and people only put others down because they don't like themselves or are unhappy with their lives.
My cousin whos gay married his best friend who's a lesbian in 1988 because they wanted kids. Now their children are grown, and they are still married and happy.
Is it a monogrous marriage?
I can’t even imagine what this is like. My closest thought would be me marrying my sister and trying to have sex with her. I really hope it works out for them but I’d be curious to see if the marriage survives empty nest syndrome.
That doesn't necessarily mean ur gay tho I have gay thoughts but I'm attracted to woman and gay activities kind of disgust me but I do have thoughts sometimes
@@todd6805 you sound bi bud I'm not attracted to men at all probably because I'm straight
Todd YORUR conditioned to live the straight life while being miserable lol
@@todd6805 What kind of thoughts do you have Todd.
Please respond, Just curious
I love how they say that some gay people can find peace with it (generally this is the case if they have a partner they can speak to openly about it) and others end up suicidal. Everybody is different.
I’m not sure I would be comfortable demanding that my partner living a life that is so incongruent with their inner world. Although I understand how complicated things are especially w kids.
I'm not convinced
same they look hurt af
First time I’ve heard of a mixed orientation marriage as a serious means of life. This was interesting thank you.
I think it's becoming more common sort of, like a few examples around maybe. There are some religious gay men that say they are married to ladies now or whatever and stopped seeing other guys, but they are admitting they are still attracted to men because it's more truthful.
I found out 10 years later my husband is attracted to men. Turned my life upside down. I love him but it hurts too much. He told me he's not gay but has same sex attraction. It's all so confusing.
@@sophiesjourney1551 Hi Sophie, it seems we're both in very similar situations. I can completely empathise with your feelings. Please feel free to get in touch, if you'd like to chat. Take care.
@@sophiesjourney1551 I think same sex attraction is gay, what else should it involve to be considered gay?.
@@huitzilopochtli_tenochtitl496 bisexuality
I think that their marriage works because they both seem like genuine, rational people, helping each other to accept the roles that they feel they ought to play in life, like actors helping eachother improve their acting skills to satisfy the audience (God and society). I think if either one of them were living in the illusion that everything's great or everything's fine or life's just black and white(aka, if they were less self-aware) , then they might not have been as happy. What do I know though, I haven't even been in a relationship yet 😅🤷♂️
He probably thinks of men each time they “get busy.”
He’s also feminine.
@@ms.chocolatecandy And she's ugly. He doesn't deserve to pay money to any woman like straight men do.
@@ms.chocolatecandyand not in a straight-guy feminine way either 😂. He really just seems full-on 💅
I’m fascinated by this dynamic. I knew I was gay since kindergarten, and even though I got push back from my parents, there was no way in hell that I was going to be with a woman and eat p***y (sorry for being crude). My mother eventually came around. But even if she didn’t, I was prepared to spend the rest of my life alone if I wasn’t going to be with another man. And if anybody guffawed and had a problem with it, I’d just say “by all means, eat all the p***y you want in my place. I’m allergic.” Of course, I went through my own coming out process, but I guess it helped that I had remained steadfast in my beliefs since an early age.
No one is born gay , something happened in your childhood that told your brain that your attraction to certain thing was your sexual hot spot , you can train your brain to reset your sexual preferences, has been proven that no one is born gay by scientists
@@dixieblonde2208 no one is born straight either as a infant you can not understand sexuality or orientation.
@@dixieblonde2208 actually scientists don't exactly know why because the brain and biology are beyond complicated and there is much we don't know. But more to the point, it's clear that living a lie causes immense harm to people, so as compassionate humans it simply should not matter. Let people live and be happy.
Exactly! Don’t force yourself to be in heterosexual relationships, when you don’t want to. If you like men, be with a man. Who cares about societal approval, just live your life. I support you.
@Dixie Blonde
Why do people have to be heterosexual? Why can’t people just be left alone? I like other men, why is that an issue? If I want to be with men, what’s the problem? Why do I have to “train my brain” to like something that I do not like? I’m not attracted to women sexually, it is what it is. Why are we made to train our brains, but heterosexuals aren’t?
The first couple are best friends and have been best friends since they were just kids so even if they are not in love with each other they do love each other and respect each other very much so its not very difficult for them but the same could not be said for the others.
Well they work better than relationships between gay men
No lol
Yeah lmao
Haha true
For those who go around and say “Love Is Love”, but don’t like this, should rethink what they think love is.
they could have actually found real love tho 😩
If they are happy, so be it!! Let him live his live as a gay man and the rest of us just shut up! Love wins!!!❤️
It really involves a lot understanding and a person to person case. It depends how strong a persons conviction is. I salute the couple here😁
Dennis Jernigan and wife have, only decades ago, Dennis repented and surrendered his life to Jesus Christ, who transformed him, saved him, and granted him eternal life.
Dennis fell in love with a woman, married her, and they have a gazillion children. Dennis is a famous pianist, hymn writer, recording artist. His beautiful testimony is found here on YT.
He married his bestfriend... They talk things out and I'm pretty sure if they're truly unhappy they would get a divorce. Guys love is a powerful thing ... love doesn't matter what your race is or sexual preference or gender. As long as you're mature enough to deal with everything in a relationship you'll be fine. And obviously they are .. or they wouldn't have lasted 15yrs. together.
Dude they stay tougher because the church is pressuring them! He’s crying and wanting to Kill himself, he’s not happy, he dosent divorce or kill himself because he has kids. He. Is. Pretending. He literally have a fiancé!
@@powerfulkangaroo1679 Where is the fiancé?
@@powerfulkangaroo1679 No one is in any position to know that except him.
I just feel sorry for them, these marriages only really stem out of religion and how disgusting it is to deny someone to be themselves, I’m lucky I’m excepted and unapologetic about who I am and won’t bow down to some authoritative religion
And the way they use the word gay when he’s probably bisexual lol
That is what will happens in so many young millenial people in Indonesia. Including myself.
Oh dear
😞
Are you happy?
Sama, tapi aku pengenya nikah sama cewe dan punya anak, tapi aku takut gabisa :)
This is the medical proof that I was born gay. The President of the Baptist Church who was a Dr said if I went through electronic shock therapy I would become straight. They put me in a locked booth and put a wire ring that measured temperature changes on my private parts and showed me about 1000 pictures of men and 1000 pictures of women over about 10 days. When my body temperature rose when I saw pictures of the men, which is natural for me, they delivered high voltages of electricity through other wires that were also attached. It was horrific.
But the machine never recorded ANYTHING when I saw all those pictures of nude women. There isn't anything anyone can do to influence the outcome of those tests.
The Dr at the facility said it proved that being gay is not a choice, that I am gay, and that I was born gay. When I came back to the original Dr, he laughed and said, (I quote verbatum) "That would have really hurt you eh". I went through 13 years of reparative therapy that did an enormous amount of damage. That included two lots of surgery on my esophagus for gastric reflux from the pressure of LYING about my God given gay sexual orientation. Last year I had a heart attack when my heart was 90% blocked from the long term stress of being in a MOM.
I have been married to my wife for 51 years and nursed her with MS for 25 years. She is in a nursing home nearby now that costs over $A1000 per week. She accepts me and my gay friends. The Baptist Church has told me I am not welcome to even attend church, and that I never have been. I was a Baptist Pastor and Missionary. I am not sexually active. When one member of a mixed orientation is gay, that person is lying. Last time I checked, lying is sin. I strongly support same sex marriage. I have been retired over 22 years.
Update: My wife passed in June 2022. Before she died I thanked her for accepting me as her gay husband. She said "Of course. That was easy. Why wouldn't I?" She was wonderful.
I sort of feel like their marriage has lasted for such a long time because they don’t know what they’re missing. He stated that he’s never been with a man and she has never been with another man either.
Maybe if they had time to explore emotions and sexuality with other people when they were younger they wouldn’t have gotten married maybe?
Hmm I hope it works out for them but mixed orientation marriage doesn’t seem for filling in the long run.