Hey Will! Last week I bought this second hand because you said she was a dream to land 🤣 🤣 Looking forward to this repair to use some tips on my actual pieces of Viper…
@@SteffenRC of course! You and a friend got me infected with the L-39 virus. He bought two 64mm but wanting to change the power system to FW 2500kv 6S would cost me more than $300 and I found the big 80mm for $300 including a 120A 8S esc. So I can put some 7 or 8S LiIon packs Im gonna solder :))))) I’ll try to not crash this one 🤣 and I hope she flies and lands nicely although she hast much more wingload than the 80mm Avanti. Like 90g/dm2 against 130 I think…. Yesterday I bought also a 90mm F-16 on a super deal for $250 new (but the old version 1….) I couldn’t say no and now I have a serious problem in our rental basement 🤣
Creative clamping is the name of the game if you want to use the contact cements like E6000, which is my favorite.. But CA and Hotglue have their place for sure.. (No clamps required.....). Thanks for watching and commenting.
Absolutely nothing to be ashamed of with that repair. I too, like to add carbon rods to reinforce repairs and transfer forces deeper into the structure. Good Job!
Thanks. I thought about the CF rods in this after the repairs and makes sense. Should’ve. I’ve done that in other repairs. I added CF strips in my Eflite Viper 70mm to prevent issues if I stall and cartwheel. It’s proven very effective. Thanks for the comments. Will
@@SteffenRC just don’t make it too strong with the CF rods. I did that to my 70mm Viper and when it did crash a year later. The nose pushed it way past the air intakes. But my repair held up. LOL.
Nice repair!! My experiencie is that steam just helps for very little wrinkles. For major damage and compression I use the heat gun on some distance although if too much the foam pops up strongly. BUT: the damage and flexible foam gets strong again. Also you can give the foam the right form again. I’ll try the SPOON trick to flatten out the pops! Last times I have used my fingers and it was already better than nothing. Cool painting! And I had forgotten that first the coat comes. I’ll need to get sind sanding paper. I’ll use the filller for first time :))
Wow Will, that is pretty amazing. Very helpful, and I'm ordering a steamer tomorrow! The repair looks so good, you can't tell it was crashed from certain angles.
You will get the popcorn look with the steamer, there is no way around it. But it does the job. On some of my repairs I put about 6 coats of poly on then sand it. Most of it gets sanded off. Mostly it acts as a sealer/filler for the popcorn foam. You did a good job on the repair.
Thanks. Appreciate the comments. I sure learned a lot during the process. Like all of us, we play around with new techniques and share with the community. Thanks Will
Great tip for repairing foam! Definitely will be using this method... What plane is that big red one in the background? Looks very nice... (found it - Eflite Cirrus)
Its a great method, but there are a few others out there, like soaking in HOT water and massaging the foam in place.. (Never tried it, but I'm sure it works too...). The Eflite Cirrus is a wonderful plane and something that finds its way to the field an awful lot. Just an easy touch and go plane, or an impressive stunt plane.. Eflite really did a great job on that one.. Thanks, Will
I used the regular industrial strength. You might want to add some carbon fiber or bamboo skewers to give some additional strength. Go light on the e6000. It’s good stuff, but will melt a little foam when it welds the two pieces together. Also, keep it light so it doesn’t effect your CG too much. Good luck with the repairs
I ended up buying gorilla glue before you responded. it has a photo of an rc plane on the back and says its foam friendly. So I hope it works out, but if it ends up snapping again I will definitely add the carbon rods. Thanks for the kind response! @@SteffenRC
As long as pilots crash planes, we'll continue to hone our rebuilding skills and techniques.. Its actually a fun part of the hobby.. (repairing planes, that is... ) Thanks for the support...
Very cool, same process I use. My steamer is a little different and for really smashed parts that don't fit, I dip them into boiling water and then massage just shortens the process. Then hit with spakle sand and paint. I hadn't used the minwax before paint but might try it out. 👍
I'm pretty good at making a foamy repair strong and functional, but thanks for showing how to make it look pretty good again too! I have a little P51 "daily driver" that's seen its fair share of uh...foam compression...I'll have to try this!
Hello Steffen, you did a nice job, your modell looks like new. A similiar mistake happend to me today and I have to repair these kind of folds. I didn't understood it very well (maybe dur to my bad english), but would it be possible to explain in text, what you put after steaming on these folds, before you sanded it? Thanks in advance Egbert
Egbert, Thanks for the comments.. Really appreciate it.. After I steamed as much of the wrinkle/crushed marks out of the foam, I applied a light coat of Lightweight drywall spackle. Sand smooth and apply another coat to make sure it covers the wrinkles and defects. Then a few coats of satin water based poly. Sand smooth and apply the poly again. Now its ready for paint. Good luck my friend.. - Will
May I ask another question? Why do you use Poly Acrylic? As a kind of smooth primer? Thanks to your video I was able to find some materials here in Germany, Miniwax is also available. Thank you very much
Too funny. I told mine this is specially made steamer for foam planes only... I don't think she bought that one.... I'm sure I'm gonna be cleaning the oven or bathroom grout soon enough...😀
Yep. Easy to just swap that out, but I needed something to post on my RUclips channel. 😀. It’s my friends plane so I asked if I could attempt to fix it.
I don't have a steamer, I put hot water in a bowl and place the parts in and out until the expand to the shape as close as possible. It works most of the time
I actually like using a pot of boiling water on badly deformed multiple breaks and cracked parts...i also added white gorilla glue to my other glues i normally use...after 12 years of fixing..well over 100 repairs including crash with batteries catching fire i I consider my self a professional foam plane repair expert...some guys just throw away wings and fuses with hardly any damage...
I really enjoy the process of repairing these foam planes. It’s a wonderful part of the hobby. I recently tested a mess of glues for foam repairs (on my channel). I tried Clear Gorilla glue, but it didn’t test as good as others. I’d like to test the white gorilla glue though. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@SteffenRC white gorilla is amazing..i fixed a totally horrible zeta blaze front end this past weekend...its a plane i have flown almost 10 years had many crashes..to many reglues to mention..i used wG to attach front fuse to main fuse after i reshaped and glued multiple peices..WG when activated with a little water is perfect..it fills in all the gaps ...after 15 mins or so its pretty much set up...Give it a try...yes on many jobs its over kill...i use CA with activator mostly. I am able to fit parts perfectly in most cases..and CA is sandable ..i also use light weight spackle when needed..i only fix my own foamies,but i do enjoy repairing...🙂
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Hey Will! Last week I bought this second hand because you said she was a dream to land 🤣 🤣 Looking forward to this repair to use some tips on my actual pieces of Viper…
You bought the L-39? Great plane for sure.. Can really slow down for landings without a nasty wing drop (don't go too slow.... 😂
@@SteffenRC of course! You and a friend got me infected with the L-39 virus. He bought two 64mm but wanting to change the power system to FW 2500kv 6S would cost me more than $300 and I found the big 80mm for $300 including a 120A 8S esc. So I can put some 7 or 8S LiIon packs Im gonna solder :))))) I’ll try to not crash this one 🤣 and I hope she flies and lands nicely although she hast much more wingload than the 80mm Avanti. Like 90g/dm2 against 130 I think…. Yesterday I bought also a 90mm F-16 on a super deal for $250 new (but the old version 1….) I couldn’t say no and now I have a serious problem in our rental basement 🤣
I really like the idea of pinning it together. Gotta remember that. Nice work!
Creative clamping is the name of the game if you want to use the contact cements like E6000, which is my favorite.. But CA and Hotglue have their place for sure.. (No clamps required.....). Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@SteffenRC i've always taped the joint together if i couldn't get it tacky enough. your way seems a lot more precise
toothpicks and baboo sticks are in everyone's arsenal for foam repair lol
Absolutely nothing to be ashamed of with that repair. I too, like to add carbon rods to reinforce repairs and transfer forces deeper into the structure. Good Job!
Thanks. I thought about the CF rods in this after the repairs and makes sense. Should’ve. I’ve done that in other repairs. I added CF strips in my Eflite Viper 70mm to prevent issues if I stall and cartwheel. It’s proven very effective. Thanks for the comments. Will
@@SteffenRC just don’t make it too strong with the CF rods. I did that to my 70mm Viper and when it did crash a year later. The nose pushed it way past the air intakes. But my repair held up. LOL.
By ' heck ' you did it. Put a steamer in your hands and you become a foam whisperer! Very good, I learned a few things.
Thanks.. It was a fun project and I learned a ton... Kinda surprised at the results..
Nice repair!! My experiencie is that steam just helps for very little wrinkles. For major damage and compression I use the heat gun on some distance although if too much the foam pops up strongly. BUT: the damage and flexible foam gets strong again. Also you can give the foam the right form again. I’ll try the SPOON trick to flatten out the pops! Last times I have used my fingers and it was already better than nothing. Cool painting! And I had forgotten that first the coat comes. I’ll need to get sind sanding paper. I’ll use the filller for first time :))
Thanks.. It was a fun repair project.
Wow Will, that is pretty amazing. Very helpful, and I'm ordering a steamer tomorrow! The repair looks so good, you can't tell it was crashed from certain angles.
Frankly, Earl's the one that recommended that steamer.. I found it to work really well. It isn't a miracle worker, but it sure helps....
All about repair video content not alot a rc flyers can afford brand spanking new ones loving this content.
Yep.. I really enjoy the repair part of this hobby. Great fun... Thanks for watching..
Pinpoint steaming!! Put on some good 70s music. Sherwin Williams light weight spackling sand poly sand repeat paint.. FLY😊
You will get the popcorn look with the steamer, there is no way around it. But it does the job. On some of my repairs I put about 6 coats of poly on then sand it. Most of it gets sanded off. Mostly it acts as a sealer/filler for the popcorn foam. You did a good job on the repair.
Thanks. Appreciate the comments. I sure learned a lot during the process. Like all of us, we play around with new techniques and share with the community. Thanks Will
Great tip for repairing foam! Definitely will be using this method...
What plane is that big red one in the background? Looks very nice... (found it - Eflite Cirrus)
Its a great method, but there are a few others out there, like soaking in HOT water and massaging the foam in place.. (Never tried it, but I'm sure it works too...). The Eflite Cirrus is a wonderful plane and something that finds its way to the field an awful lot. Just an easy touch and go plane, or an impressive stunt plane.. Eflite really did a great job on that one.. Thanks, Will
What version of e6000 do you use, I just snapped the rear end off of my apprentice 1.2m and am just trying to figure out the best glue to use.
I used the regular industrial strength. You might want to add some carbon fiber or bamboo skewers to give some additional strength. Go light on the e6000. It’s good stuff, but will melt a little foam when it welds the two pieces together. Also, keep it light so it doesn’t effect your CG too much. Good luck with the repairs
I ended up buying gorilla glue before you responded. it has a photo of an rc plane on the back and says its foam friendly. So I hope it works out, but if it ends up snapping again I will definitely add the carbon rods. Thanks for the kind response! @@SteffenRC
Great job WIL....lt looks like it's ready to do another flight.
Yes it is... Mike will do a great re-re-maiden.. 3rd times the charm....😎
Very informative. Really appreciate the explanation.
Glad it was helpful!
Great lesson and explanation. I guess there is some hope out there on the horizon somewhere. 👍🏻🙂
As long as pilots crash planes, we'll continue to hone our rebuilding skills and techniques.. Its actually a fun part of the hobby.. (repairing planes, that is... ) Thanks for the support...
Great tutorial, That was impressive..
Thanks a lot. I was pretty surprised at how well it turned out.
Very cool, same process I use. My steamer is a little different and for really smashed parts that don't fit, I dip them into boiling water and then massage just shortens the process. Then hit with spakle sand and paint. I hadn't used the minwax before paint but might try it out. 👍
I’d like to try dipping it in water. Next project I’ll play with that. Thanks Will
I'm pretty good at making a foamy repair strong and functional, but thanks for showing how to make it look pretty good again too! I have a little P51 "daily driver" that's seen its fair share of uh...foam compression...I'll have to try this!
It takes a little work, but it’s worth it. Kinda fun to bring the ugly planes back to life. Thanks for commenting - Will
Great job, Will.
Thanks Earl. I hope I don't see it in the shop anytime soon.😀
Hello Steffen,
you did a nice job, your modell looks like new. A similiar mistake happend to me today and I have to repair these kind of folds.
I didn't understood it very well (maybe dur to my bad english), but would it be possible to explain in text, what you put after steaming on these folds, before you sanded it?
Thanks in advance
Egbert
Egbert, Thanks for the comments.. Really appreciate it.. After I steamed as much of the wrinkle/crushed marks out of the foam, I applied a light coat of Lightweight drywall spackle. Sand smooth and apply another coat to make sure it covers the wrinkles and defects. Then a few coats of satin water based poly. Sand smooth and apply the poly again. Now its ready for paint. Good luck my friend.. - Will
May I ask another question? Why do you use Poly Acrylic? As a kind of smooth primer? Thanks to your video I was able to find some materials here in Germany, Miniwax is also available. Thank you very much
This video is convincing me to buy “ gently used “ planes and rebuild
Used planes are awesome. You typically get amazing deals. And can't see all the bumps and bruises on the plane while its flying anyway..
You are an artist
Thanks. Never been called that. Kinda like it. 😀
This is f***ing incredible!
Awesome! Please post how to fix teared foam hinges. Thanks
Glad you like this video. I'll absolutely make a video for fixing foam hinges.
@@SteffenRC thanks a lot. Looking forward to seeing it. 👌
Sub'd, nice work. I am more confident just by watching your example. TOP MARKS sir ~ !
Thanks Randy. It's not hard to fix these planes.. It just takes a little time.... Good luck.. Will
Wow. Amazing job
Thank.. It was a fun and challenging project.
Can a iron be used instead of the steamer. On a liwer temperature setting im thinking
Russ, I haven’t used that, but could try and see if it works. Not sure.
Great job. Very, helpful.
Glad you liked it.. Appreciate the support.
Looks great man
Turned out pretty nice.. At least from 10' away... :-)
Nice repair.👍👍 I'm afraid if I buy that steamer my wife will put me to work around the house.😨😨
Too funny. I told mine this is specially made steamer for foam planes only... I don't think she bought that one.... I'm sure I'm gonna be cleaning the oven or bathroom grout soon enough...😀
Even here in Africa we can get replacement parts for Freewing jets, you’re in the States, why not just replace the fuz?
Yep. Easy to just swap that out, but I needed something to post on my RUclips channel. 😀. It’s my friends plane so I asked if I could attempt to fix it.
Nice job!
Thanks Ross appreciate the support
Great Job!!!
Thanks. It’s amazing what a little effort can do..
I surely agree on the genius part. But for lots more than just foam repair.
Ah, shucks fella's.. I'm gonna blush......🥲
What kind of spackle did you use? Name?
I use a lightweight drywall spackle from Ace hardware. I'm planning on trying some of the flexible spackles too..
@@SteffenRC great to know though! I tend to crash planes more than I fly them sometimes.
Impressive!!
Thanks.. Appreciate it. - Will
I don't have a steamer, I put hot water in a bowl and place the parts in and out until the expand to the shape as close as possible. It works most of the time
I'm gonna try that on the next project. I've heard folks getting great results with that method.. Thanks, Will
Wish i wouldve learned this years ago
Me too... Its a real game changer on rebuilds...
Hmm looks like ill have to order a steamer
Yes, you do... They are pretty impressive tools
I actually like using a pot of boiling water on badly deformed multiple breaks and cracked parts...i also added white gorilla glue to my other glues i normally use...after 12 years of fixing..well over 100 repairs including crash with batteries catching fire i I consider my self a professional foam plane repair expert...some guys just throw away wings and fuses with hardly any damage...
I really enjoy the process of repairing these foam planes. It’s a wonderful part of the hobby. I recently tested a mess of glues for foam repairs (on my channel). I tried Clear Gorilla glue, but it didn’t test as good as others. I’d like to test the white gorilla glue though. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@SteffenRC white gorilla is amazing..i fixed a totally horrible zeta blaze front end this past weekend...its a plane i have flown almost 10 years had many crashes..to many reglues to mention..i used wG to attach front fuse to main fuse after i reshaped and glued multiple peices..WG when activated with a little water is perfect..it fills in all the gaps ...after 15 mins or so its pretty much set up...Give it a try...yes on many jobs its over kill...i use CA with activator mostly. I am able to fit parts perfectly in most cases..and CA is sandable ..i also use light weight spackle when needed..i only fix my own foamies,but i do enjoy repairing...🙂
What do you mean by wg?
WG is white gorilla glue