Fun Tidbit: Mok was drawn with Mick Jagger specifically in mind to voice him and do the singing parts. (That's why his lips are their own character) For whatever reason, he couldn't do it and Bowie couldn't either so Don Francks did the dialogue and Lou Reed the vocals. Susan Roman did the dialogue for Angel and Debbie Harry the vocals. "Angel's Song" would be the framework she used for "Maybe Just For Sure" on the Def Dumb & Blonde album.
True, but the pedant in me is confused by what it means, since it was an archangel sent by God who turned everyone into salt, and the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah didn't have any kind of "power" beyond being filled with lechers and hedonists.
@@user-lb9xw4xf2q \ Lot had chose to live in the city because of how beautiful and prosperous it appeared, overlooking its depravity and choosing to follow the wealth he could gain from it. In other words he was seduced by something evil kind of what Mok references in this line. He's basically saying I have the power to make you want me even though I'm a walking red flag. Its interesting because in the scene after this line there are statues of people crumbing reminiscent of lots wife who turned into a pillar of salt after looking back at the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Such a fascinating little movie shame it never did well.
@@user-lb9xw4xf2q the other replier kind of nailed it, Lot chose to live there and remain there until angels of the Lord came to him. Indeed, instead of rebuffing the predatory men entirely as a Godly man aught, he simply offered his daughters in the stead of the angels. Evil company corrupts good morals. This line is made all the more fascinating because it encompasses this chipping away at Lot’s morals by the ppl he lived amongst, by personifying the town, and given Mok’s other biblical references through out this song, it all seems to play into his vanity and lust for power, while reveling in his own depravity
It's funny you mention Mick Jagger, because I read somewhere that Mok was supposed to be a parody of him. The article said his full name was "Mok Swagger". And, apparently, Mick Jagger didn't take kindly to this.
Hard like attitude for sure, but not hard to play! Love it - a very sly compendium of tasty RnR phrases. I learned it for the fun of it but doubt I will run into anyone who even knows this movie 😁
I love how the girls are in shadow despite being under spotlights. It could either be because it's a dream and/or because despite the fact that they're singing, they aren't the stars. Mok is. Also, the animation on his lips is so fluid and amazing. I keep coming back just for those parts alone.
I'm positive it's because Mok is the star, he's the show case. Not backup singers, it's awesome how they portrayed that. That's really perceptive of you.
If Tim Curry played a character whose design was based heavily on David Bowie...this would be it. Also, whoever animated the lip sequences for him should be in the Hall of fame for animation.
You know, considering how much modern rap stars sing about their own ''greatness'' I don't think its entirely unbelievable for Mok to have an actual career in the real world.
Considering how many rock stars embraced megalomania and idolized their own greatness I don’t think it’s entirely unbelievable for Mok to have a career in the 80’s, the most shameful and indulgent era of popular rock music
i usually leave youtube on random when i sleep... when i woke up this movie was playing at this exact part....and i had not seen it before.....weird fkn thing to wake up to lol
I guess that in the original cut the «World War III» phrase was supposed to come off as gross and cynical, but the American cut explicitly stated that the characters are *not* humans that developed animal characteristics: they're mutated street animals that have the Earth all to themselves after the human race perished in the war. Specifically street animals, not pets, so no attachment to humans at least, resentment regarding them at most. So, everyone in this world probably *does* consider WWIII an amazing thing for their kind.
They way they showed his hyper-narcissistic personality in his songs is actually pretty impressive. Shame this movie did so poorly just because of some big monopoly company ruining it and messing up how they marketed it. (CHECK THE REPLY AS WELL!)
Thanks. To be fair, Nelvana delivered the film years late and millions over budget without a name headliner like Mick Jagger (as promised), plus the people inside UA who were championing it had left. I'm disappointed in how it was released as well, but the blame needs to be spread evenly to be fair to those involved.
I was in middle school at the time and was aware of it from marvels publicity of their adaption (get it!!!) but never saw any sign of the movie until it hit hbo. At which point me and all my friends watched it several times.
Yeah I totally forgot! I didn't know about the comic adaptation, but I guess I saw it originally long time ago on HBO. That was so long ago I forget about HBO and Nickelodeon just starting out. Nickelodeon had some cool stuff when they 1st started , like Third Eye and City of Gold, ect.
I liked it but it always felt incomplete. compared to heavy metal, it's not as good. I just wish that the production teams of both films collabarated. the animation and music and general art direction in rock n rule is so much better but heavy metal has such better writing and depth to it. I wish this genre would make a comeback, mostly. :/
Mok is living proof that you don't necessarily need a villain to be deep for him to be any good. Throughout the movie, I sort of got a Clockwork Orange feel from him that was somewhat repressed behind a veil of class and charisma.
Yeah (sigh)... So many poor fools. They have money, women (if they're men😉), power, glory, everything. But they lack love, compassion, belief in good and, well... future.
Exactly. A character can be defined entirely by their actions and reactions in the story, a villain can be fun without having to be deep and Mok is exactly that. A fun villain
I've heard people argue that his motivation for villainy is insanely petty and stupid. I would argue that that's the point. A good villain is someone that is entertaining to hate. The fact that Mok is so insanely self-important that he would murder thousands over (according to Lou Reed) two empty seats at one of his concerts just cements his depravity, which makes for a very fun villain.
God damn this movie is GORGEOUS! Why didn't it do better in theaters? Also, why not use Lou as the speaking voice for Mok, we know he's a decent actor. I guess I can't complain, Don Francks did a great job.
The music and the voices were handled quite differently. As I may have already mentioned, Jagger was originally slated [as can be seen in Mok's design] then Bowie and finally Lou Reed. From what I recall Lou came to the production fairly late in the game. Animators can't animate without lip-sync which depends on the actual recorded voices, so waiting on the musical talent would have put things too far off and we were already way behind. As for why it didn't do better in the theatres, the double-DVD set has an insert with a fairly good explanation. One of the problems we had on this production was the director was always away with the musicians so we were often left redoing work he didn't like when he returned after a 3 to 4 week hiatus. That put the production way over budget and years longer than it should have been. By the time it was in the can the people cheer-leading it with the distributors had left so nobody really cared anymore. It opened one weekend in Boston with no promo next to a Disney block-buster, did poorly [because nobody knew about it] and was pulled. Total shame and a real disservice to all the talented people who put their blood, sweat and tears into it.
VerneAndru Wow. Makes me want to beat the director's ass over that now. What's with 70s-80's animated masterpieces being fucked over by one or two incompetent people?
Amelia Bee LOL - I hear you. From my experience the problems were systemic. The "system" stated at the time the screenplay has to be locked and an animatic in place before a project gets a green light. In this case because Nelvana had some success with their TV 1/2 hours they were given certification before the script was locked. Then they staffed up and had a crew of 350 waiting on the writers and directors to decide what they wanted us to do running the project way over time and budget. So, at the end of the day, it's political IMHO.
VerneAndru Sounds like the kind of bullshit I came across as an associate producer in the video games industry. After ten years of the same incompetence, I finally got the hell outta dodge. :/
VerneAndru That explains a lot! It is an absolute crying shame that it got no advertising and no global exposure! I will always love it and I just hope young people viewing this video clip will buy the Blu Ray Version of this! Maybe a Sequel/Remake could happen! Sluggo
I didn't remember much about this movie, I saw it so many years ago that I only remembered bits & pieces. But this song is the one song that I remember the most! Such a great short & sweet song from Lou Reed. What a great tune, glad that the creators have an outlet for this film and music, because it needs to be remembered! It's really good! Thanks for posting!
This movie has had such a profoundly positive impact on my life. It got me into so many different bands, helped inspire me to get into guitar AND art and gave me something to distract myself with whenever I'd feel alone. I'm so grateful for Rock & Rule. Thank you for all the hard work you put into it. It means so much.
I watched the film, and I wish I were longer. The animation, the backgrounds, it looks like it's rotoscoped because it's so fluid in movements, it's so realistic in its own universe. This movie is criminally underappreciated.
Why do I love Mok as a villain? The egotistical and narcissistic villain has been done before but there's just something about his that is I love. I'm simple and present through what he says, sings, does, and even the things surrounding him and somehow it isn't completely over done. It's like he could be one of those cult leaders a la Jim Jones.
I think it is because he is a very well executed example of the trope. He dribbles with charm and charisma wrapped around a core of cruelty and madness.
@@tristanband4003 Exactly. Evil and Narcissistic alone just make another two-dimensional comic-book villain. Bit add, Charm, Charisma, and STYLE, and now you have someone who does not NEED to take over the world, they could convince the world to let them be in charge. ...having THOSE LIPS wouldn't hurt either.
I like the shadowed backup singers, i like the lines too i dont know what it is but i like the casual kind of tone in this whole peice. Mok is excellent, whoever voiced him knocked it out of the park.
Just saw this movie tonight. It is CRIMINAL that it didn't earn more at the box office. All that hard work would have been for nothing if it hadn't become a cult classic.
I watched this when I was 15...then my kids and wife found and bought me the 2-disk deluxe set. Being a musician I can say it's been a life-long ambition to cover this tune and let this generation discover R&R, what a song! I'd put Mok up against Ye any day of the week.
How could Mok look like Marilyn Manson all the TIME?! Because Jafar is the combination of Conrad Veidt, Vincent Price and Jack Nicholson as The Joker! And Lord Cedric is like The Combination of Jafar from Aladdin, Hades from Hercules, Scar from The Lion King and Tim Curry as the Dark Lord from Ridley Scott's LEGEND! Due to Jafar being based on Maleficent; Maleficent looks like Marilyn Manson's portrayal of VAMPIRELLA! Is Vampirella one of Dracula's Concubines? And do you know who Lord Cedric is?
Yah but he's better than Manson, even as a fictional character, given how much that goth shut in abuser got away with it for as long as he did, cancel worthy
I was obsessed with this movie when I was younger, like middle school. One of my older bros friends had it and let me watch it. I spent the next seven years trying to find it. I finally gave up and just now remembered it existed. Thank you RUclips!!!
Thanks for caring! They botched the release so badly I wrote it off. Late 1990s I started getting emails from people who were fans, which confused the heck out of me until I discovered the film had a descent rotation on late-night TV and developed a cult following. Who knew?
@@Verneandru ha! Isn’t life strange? It seems to me some of the best movies, bands, etc don’t do well in their time but develop cult followings. If I was an artist and had to pick I would much rather have a cult following than instant success. So congratulations?! 😁
Mok looks like the kind of guy who doesn't hire anyone to write anything for him. He wastes his talents on his own ego thinking everything he thinks and does is great and everyone else is wrong for speaking the truth. In other words I believe the songs were intentionally written that way to show his character.
this movie got me back into drawing and wanting to make my own animated films i'm an aspiring filmmaker mys self and an ok artist but i want to step up my game and this was one of my influences
Wow, I've never seen this movie or heard of it until yesterday when the algorithm threw it at me... and now I can't help but keep coming back. Lou really made an ear-worm of a track this is catchy as hell.
i cannot stress enough how much i ADORE THIS SONG. when i watched this movie for the first time i legit had to pause it after this song to process how incredible it was (that may sound weird but i’m a MASSIVE music nerd, especially with 80’s-90’s music and musicals) and i legit replayed it like, 10 times with my jaw hanging open. this movie is so incredible for so many reasons but i, without a single shred of irony, consider mok to genuinely be one of the greatest animated villains of all time.
Yes, sing to us, Lou! This movie may have been weird as hell and I had no idea what was going on, but it was still fun to watch and now I've got the Transformers album. It's such a perfect day and I'm glad I spent it with you.
VERNE ANDRU? The animator who did Rock and Rule? I LOVE this 80s underground classic. I feel so bad that it didn't grad like Heavy Metal did, but I still loved this! Not just an animated musical, but also a scifi / postapocalyptic. Maybe that's just it; this was meant for us cosplay and scifi geeks. PLEASE come to DragonCon in Atlanta someday!
Hi - I worked primarily in story doing layouts, storyboards, designs, that sort of thing. I was actually on my way to work on Heavy Metal when Nelvana snagged me for Rock & Rule. I agree this is a better film and wish it had seen a better release than it got.
I absolutely love this artwork/animation style. Don't know what to call it, just love it. Everything in this movie fit together so well (visually, soundtrack) regardless of legitimate criticisms some may have.
Great tune and video. I remember seeing it first on the CBC in the early 80's when I was 8 or 9 years old. Never knew it was Lou Reed though. What a great surprise.
They did awesome job making the movie and the graphics i can see that they put in thier hard earn work and dedication they got the talent the heart and soul for thier artwork.
This is one of my favorite sequences in the movie, both musically and design-wise. Just wanted to share a story: When Rock and Rule originally appeared in one small movie theater in Boston, it was always sold out. Cut to the late 80's, I attended a Lou Reed concert in Boston full of fans who listened attentively to every word he spoke in between songs. During a pause, an audience member suddenly shrieked, "MOK!!!!" Lou looked very surprised, and said, "Mok?" The audience reacted excitedly, I held my breath, and for a split second, hoped that he would actually launch into the song. But of course he hadn't rehearsed it with the band, so he didn't. But I'd always hoped that Lou had realized the appreciation we all had for his work on the film that had largely gone unrecognized at that point.
The film was done 40 years ago, I've had my clips up for years and it is only now that people are taking notice. Go figure. Just goes to show that if you wait long enough eventually things get noticed.
God I saw someone on insta playing a clip of this villain from the film and I fell absolutely in mad love with this character and I haven’t even seen the movie myself! I can’t wait to watch this lol it looks so trippy and funky.
one of my first loves.. Heavy Metal Mag.. Issac Asimov.. Bashki everything.. and This bad ass Movie... I am all grown up now.. well kinda... and been on a mission to reclaim these into my life.. I have managed to get just about all and constantly finding classic adult animated productions.. so NOT cartoons.. and this one was elusive to me for a while.. got it now..as well as about all Bashki..
I'll give a a hint ..."and in the beginning there were lips, and they were good...and the lips said....* Michael Remy was ill the day the Earth stood still, but he told us...where we stand....and I really got hot...*
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I swear to god his lips are its own character
I can't look away
What type of makeup is he using!?
I want a tattoo of the lips
@@The-official-knudschannel Maybe he's born with it...maybe it's Maybelline.
They hired a whole separated animating team just for his luscious lips
He looks like an old, vampire mozart...
why does this guy excel at being an antagonist?
seriously he is the greatest kind of bad guy I've ever seen
@@tylerrobles9935 because he bas character depth without being a pity character?
He looks like Jeffree Starr as a morphine-addicted rock star
Fun Tidbit: Mok was drawn with Mick Jagger specifically in mind to voice him and do the singing parts. (That's why his lips are their own character) For whatever reason, he couldn't do it and Bowie couldn't either so Don Francks did the dialogue and Lou Reed the vocals. Susan Roman did the dialogue for Angel and Debbie Harry the vocals. "Angel's Song" would be the framework she used for "Maybe Just For Sure" on the Def Dumb & Blonde album.
He looks like Iggy Pop mixed with Steve Tyler... Which isn't far from what you described
The most shocking thing is that he's not voiced by Tim Curry
You know, I would be down for a remake with Tim Curry doing the voice over.
@@polaris30000 considering that Tim is still recovering from a stroke... I'd rather he heal.
He kinda looked like jager to me
Nothing-but- Milk He was who the character was based on and first choice for voice, David Bowie was second, Lou Reed was third.
Lizzy Chrome who plays him?
watching this with a fever was the worst decision of my life
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HA!...I can only imagine...kudos to U!
akhenatenwasawesome ... OR BEST!
I dont understand im just getin over a fever and ive watched to movie 7 times
I feel ya paint man.
Only Mok can be so charismatic while looking like a human cigarette
The his made me giggle, thank you
And now I can’t unsee it.
“I’m the power Sodom used on Lot” is such a cool fucking line
It really is, and it makes the rest of the song seem so shallow and garish in comparison. Well, more so than it already actually is lol
True, but the pedant in me is confused by what it means, since it was an archangel sent by God who turned everyone into salt, and the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah didn't have any kind of "power" beyond being filled with lechers and hedonists.
@@user-lb9xw4xf2q \ Lot had chose to live in the city because of how beautiful and prosperous it appeared, overlooking its depravity and choosing to follow the wealth he could gain from it. In other words he was seduced by something evil kind of what Mok references in this line. He's basically saying I have the power to make you want me even though I'm a walking red flag. Its interesting because in the scene after this line there are statues of people crumbing reminiscent of lots wife who turned into a pillar of salt after looking back at the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Such a fascinating little movie shame it never did well.
@@user-lb9xw4xf2q the other replier kind of nailed it, Lot chose to live there and remain there until angels of the Lord came to him. Indeed, instead of rebuffing the predatory men entirely as a Godly man aught, he simply offered his daughters in the stead of the angels.
Evil company corrupts good morals.
This line is made all the more fascinating because it encompasses this chipping away at Lot’s morals by the ppl he lived amongst, by personifying the town, and given Mok’s other biblical references through out this song, it all seems to play into his vanity and lust for power, while reveling in his own depravity
@@joekerr3215well put!!!
Remember, evil spelled backwards is live, and we all want to do that!
;) re-mem-ber kids... beeee goood!
B-but Uncle Mickey sayz..
@@sorchatheraven Shut Up.....
Talk To Me!
Are we the baddies?
Yes, let me murder children and drink the blood of the innocent.
My name is (David Bowie's and Mick Jagger's lovechild) Mok. Thanks a lot.
Reed daddy to both of them.
It's funny you mention Mick Jagger, because I read somewhere that Mok was supposed to be a parody of him.
The article said his full name was "Mok Swagger". And, apparently, Mick Jagger didn't take kindly to this.
Well, they were caught in bed together...
And Lou Reed of course
Actually, his full name was "Mokiiligan Swagger".
Hardest things known to man:
5. Quartz
4. Topaz
3. Corundum
2. Diamond
1. The bassline on this fucking song.
That Bass-Line rules!
This Song fucking rules!
Hard like attitude for sure, but not hard to play!
Love it - a very sly compendium of tasty RnR phrases.
I learned it for the fun of it but doubt I will run into
anyone who even knows this movie 😁
@@ZeroMod I would so love to jam with you on this one 😁
Какой же он страшный!
😅😂😂
I love how the girls are in shadow despite being under spotlights. It could either be because it's a dream and/or because despite the fact that they're singing, they aren't the stars. Mok is.
Also, the animation on his lips is so fluid and amazing. I keep coming back just for those parts alone.
Ever hear of back-lighting?
I think its a dream of his music video
That and it was just the style of the era, some with their disproportionately long legs
Those lips are nightmare fuel
I'm positive it's because Mok is the star, he's the show case. Not backup singers, it's awesome how they portrayed that. That's really perceptive of you.
Whoever is playing bass on this song is KILLING it! Long live Lou!!
This song has a dirty guitar synth to it, there is something missing though. I think it is obscene lyrics. Otherwise it is fucking sick!
That would be Ellard "Moose" Boles on bass.
RIP Lou Reed ( † October 27th, 2013 )
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If Tim Curry played a character whose design was based heavily on David Bowie...this would be it.
Also, whoever animated the lip sequences for him should be in the Hall of fame for animation.
I agree - animator extraordinaire Robin Budd was the lead animator for the Mok character.
@Frank deluca lol
@@jackatkinson245 Yes, he turned down the part. It was clearly designed to be him not Bowie.
@@Fektthis yep i see
@@jackatkinson245 should have added... His full name is Mok Swagger... Kind of another dead give away
You know, considering how much modern rap stars sing about their own ''greatness'' I don't think its entirely unbelievable for Mok to have an actual career in the real world.
That's how ahead of the times this movie was. :)
yeah and since this is a dystopia, you can relate to him as a modern self-worshipping sect leader.
Considering how many rock stars embraced megalomania and idolized their own greatness I don’t think it’s entirely unbelievable for Mok to have a career in the 80’s, the most shameful and indulgent era of popular rock music
@bmk777k my name is Mok I do pot and rock
If evil backwards is live doesn't that mean live is the reverse of evil?
This movie rocks.
This song rules.
His name is Mok, thanks a lot.
A S R he's the greatest thing since world war three!
Girls!
The soundtrack alone is worth watching the film for
In case anyone is wondering: that is Lou Reed singing.
You might not like Mok, but you have to admit... He's got style
Thanks alot
i usually leave youtube on random when i sleep... when i woke up this movie was playing at this exact part....and i had not seen it before.....weird fkn thing to wake up to lol
*wakes up to hear the words "I'm the greatest thing since world war 3 girls!" as then I see a dark screen with a pair of lips and eyes on it*
Mok, in universe wise, is probably the *worst* thing to wake up to.
I guess that in the original cut the «World War III» phrase was supposed to come off as gross and cynical, but the American cut explicitly stated that the characters are *not* humans that developed animal characteristics: they're mutated street animals that have the Earth all to themselves after the human race perished in the war. Specifically street animals, not pets, so no attachment to humans at least, resentment regarding them at most. So, everyone in this world probably *does* consider WWIII an amazing thing for their kind.
Wasn't there a moose dude in that club scene though? And I think Dizzy could be a mutated mole-man.
They way they showed his hyper-narcissistic personality in his songs is actually pretty impressive. Shame this movie did so poorly just because of some big monopoly company ruining it and messing up how they marketed it.
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Thanks. To be fair, Nelvana delivered the film years late and millions over budget without a name headliner like Mick Jagger (as promised), plus the people inside UA who were championing it had left. I'm disappointed in how it was released as well, but the blame needs to be spread evenly to be fair to those involved.
I was in middle school at the time and was aware of it from marvels publicity of their adaption (get it!!!) but never saw any sign of the movie until it hit hbo. At which point me and all my friends watched it several times.
What did happen ? It's an awesome film and soundtrack!
Yeah I totally forgot! I didn't know about the comic adaptation, but I guess I saw it originally long time ago on HBO. That was so long ago I forget about HBO and Nickelodeon just starting out. Nickelodeon had some cool stuff when they 1st started , like Third Eye and City of Gold, ect.
This is one of my all time favorite animated movies! Such beautiful animation and great songs!
I just discovered it the other day, and I'm in lurve.
Don't tell me you saw it when you were kid?? D:
+Octopimp Omg, I was so surprised to see you in the comment section
Octopimp Fityo. Wish more people heard of it.
I liked it but it always felt incomplete. compared to heavy metal, it's not as good. I just wish that the production teams of both films collabarated. the animation and music and general art direction in rock n rule is so much better but heavy metal has such better writing and depth to it. I wish this genre would make a comeback, mostly. :/
I see all those self esteem building seminars weren't wasted on this guy.
Mok is living proof that you don't necessarily need a villain to be deep for him to be any good. Throughout the movie, I sort of got a Clockwork Orange feel from him that was somewhat repressed behind a veil of class and charisma.
Yeah (sigh)... So many poor fools. They have money, women (if they're men😉), power, glory, everything. But they lack love, compassion, belief in good and, well... future.
Exactly. A character can be defined entirely by their actions and reactions in the story, a villain can be fun without having to be deep and Mok is exactly that. A fun villain
I've heard people argue that his motivation for villainy is insanely petty and stupid. I would argue that that's the point. A good villain is someone that is entertaining to hate. The fact that Mok is so insanely self-important that he would murder thousands over (according to Lou Reed) two empty seats at one of his concerts just cements his depravity, which makes for a very fun villain.
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Look at Frieza from Dragon Ball. One dimensional, but he's still the most memorable villain from the series.
God damn this movie is GORGEOUS! Why didn't it do better in theaters? Also, why not use Lou as the speaking voice for Mok, we know he's a decent actor. I guess I can't complain, Don Francks did a great job.
The music and the voices were handled quite differently. As I may have already mentioned, Jagger was originally slated [as can be seen in Mok's design] then Bowie and finally Lou Reed. From what I recall Lou came to the production fairly late in the game. Animators can't animate without lip-sync which depends on the actual recorded voices, so waiting on the musical talent would have put things too far off and we were already way behind.
As for why it didn't do better in the theatres, the double-DVD set has an insert with a fairly good explanation. One of the problems we had on this production was the director was always away with the musicians so we were often left redoing work he didn't like when he returned after a 3 to 4 week hiatus. That put the production way over budget and years longer than it should have been. By the time it was in the can the people cheer-leading it with the distributors had left so nobody really cared anymore. It opened one weekend in Boston with no promo next to a Disney block-buster, did poorly [because nobody knew about it] and was pulled. Total shame and a real disservice to all the talented people who put their blood, sweat and tears into it.
VerneAndru Wow. Makes me want to beat the director's ass over that now. What's with 70s-80's animated masterpieces being fucked over by one or two incompetent people?
Amelia Bee
LOL - I hear you. From my experience the problems were systemic. The "system" stated at the time the screenplay has to be locked and an animatic in place before a project gets a green light. In this case because Nelvana had some success with their TV 1/2 hours they were given certification before the script was locked. Then they staffed up and had a crew of 350 waiting on the writers and directors to decide what they wanted us to do running the project way over time and budget. So, at the end of the day, it's political IMHO.
VerneAndru Sounds like the kind of bullshit I came across as an associate producer in the video games industry. After ten years of the same incompetence, I finally got the hell outta dodge. :/
VerneAndru That explains a lot! It is an absolute crying shame that it got no advertising and no global exposure!
I will always love it and I just hope young people viewing this video clip will buy the Blu Ray Version of this!
Maybe a Sequel/Remake could happen!
Sluggo
THAT BASSLINE IS GOD TIER.
I didn't remember much about this movie, I saw it so many years ago that I only remembered bits & pieces. But this song is the one song that I remember the most! Such a great short & sweet song from Lou Reed. What a great tune, glad that the creators have an outlet for this film and music, because it needs to be remembered! It's really good! Thanks for posting!
...the greatest thing since World War Three!
Girls!
Hard to listen to since January 2020.
@@chrisrj9871It started way before 2020.
This movie has had such a profoundly positive impact on my life. It got me into so many different bands, helped inspire me to get into guitar AND art and gave me something to distract myself with whenever I'd feel alone. I'm so grateful for Rock & Rule. Thank you for all the hard work you put into it. It means so much.
I watched the film, and I wish I were longer. The animation, the backgrounds, it looks like it's rotoscoped because it's so fluid in movements, it's so realistic in its own universe. This movie is criminally underappreciated.
Thanks for that. Some of the band scenes were rotoscoped but the bulk of it was all done by hand, the old-school way.
I'm so glad Lou Reed sang this. So much good talent in this movie! Love it
What a nice and modest fellow... wish i knew his name.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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Not to mention polite
@@lizkenn1144
And humble. Very humble.
Why do I love Mok as a villain?
The egotistical and narcissistic villain has been done before but there's just something about his that is I love. I'm simple and present through what he says, sings, does, and even the things surrounding him and somehow it isn't completely over done.
It's like he could be one of those cult leaders a la Jim Jones.
I think it is because he is a very well executed example of the trope. He dribbles with charm and charisma wrapped around a core of cruelty and madness.
@@tristanband4003 Exactly. Evil and Narcissistic alone just make another two-dimensional comic-book villain. Bit add, Charm, Charisma, and STYLE, and now you have someone who does not NEED to take over the world, they could convince the world to let them be in charge.
...having THOSE LIPS wouldn't hurt either.
@@andrewdreasler428 Which makes him all the more terrifying. That people would hand the world to them just if he asked is scary af.
This movie REEKS of the 80s, and I couldn’t be happier
I saw this on HBO when I was about 8 or so ... I am now 47 and NEVER forgot this song! I think that says something.
you and me both
About to turn 50 and remember when MTV had this video in heavy rotation.
Ha ha same! I videotaped it off HBO when i was 9
I like the shadowed backup singers, i like the lines too i dont know what it is but i like the casual kind of tone in this whole peice. Mok is excellent, whoever voiced him knocked it out of the park.
Lou Reed (Guitarist/Singer for The Velvet Underground) did the vocals when he song.
Just saw this movie tonight. It is CRIMINAL that it didn't earn more at the box office. All that hard work would have been for nothing if it hadn't become a cult classic.
. _"you think he's acting, but he's not"_ . Such a great, great simple line! (right, girls?)
I watched this when I was 15...then my kids and wife found and bought me the 2-disk deluxe set. Being a musician I can say it's been a life-long ambition to cover this tune and let this generation discover R&R, what a song! I'd put Mok up against Ye any day of the week.
let us all know when you release your cover!
Hes like a combination of Marilyn Manson, David Bowie and The Joker.
How could Mok look like Marilyn Manson all the TIME?! Because Jafar is the combination of Conrad Veidt, Vincent Price and Jack Nicholson as The Joker! And Lord Cedric is like The Combination of Jafar from Aladdin, Hades from Hercules, Scar from The Lion King and Tim Curry as the Dark Lord from Ridley Scott's LEGEND! Due to Jafar being based on Maleficent; Maleficent looks like Marilyn Manson's portrayal of VAMPIRELLA! Is Vampirella one of Dracula's Concubines? And do you know who Lord Cedric is?
Yah but he's better than Manson, even as a fictional character, given how much that goth shut in abuser got away with it for as long as he did, cancel worthy
I was obsessed with this movie when I was younger, like middle school. One of my older bros friends had it and let me watch it. I spent the next seven years trying to find it. I finally gave up and just now remembered it existed. Thank you RUclips!!!
Thanks for caring! They botched the release so badly I wrote it off. Late 1990s I started getting emails from people who were fans, which confused the heck out of me until I discovered the film had a descent rotation on late-night TV and developed a cult following. Who knew?
@@Verneandru ha! Isn’t life strange? It seems to me some of the best movies, bands, etc don’t do well in their time but develop cult followings. If I was an artist and had to pick I would much rather have a cult following than instant success. So congratulations?! 😁
@@foxopossum Sure
The guitar notes at the beginning hit you like a goddamn train and I love it
Dunno why I just randomly got this stuck in my head, but hey. Maybe my brain needed some Mok-based nostalgia.
So, thanks a lot, Mok.
He needs to hire someone else to write his lyrics.
I see why his last álbum floped.
I would like to think this was his later material that didn't do a whole lot for him 😂
Mok looks like the kind of guy who doesn't hire anyone to write anything for him. He wastes his talents on his own ego thinking everything he thinks and does is great and everyone else is wrong for speaking the truth. In other words I believe the songs were intentionally written that way to show his character.
His name is mok and his last album flopped
My name is mok thanks a lot I am a snake and I’m the big bad who makes you shake like wtf
The song and the visuals go so well together.
This character was such a highlight of this whole movie. Mok is friggin brilliant, the music + animation in this is just stellar.
I like how the final scene of Mok falling foreshadows how he literally falls down a portal to Hell when he's defeated
this movie got me back into drawing and wanting to make my own animated films i'm an aspiring filmmaker mys self and an ok artist but i want to step up my game and this was one of my influences
dornravlin try to do this as a hobby, not full time unless you have money like that
The Beatles statues crumbling before him is such an epic way to metaphorically show his ego
Wow, I've never seen this movie or heard of it until yesterday when the algorithm threw it at me... and now I can't help but keep coming back. Lou really made an ear-worm of a track this is catchy as hell.
Mok's back must hurt from carrying this movie.
Holy sh$%, this kicks major butt!!!! This thunder bass mix is savage!!!!
Yes.
...Thunder itself takes third place to this bassline (second place goes to an earthquake)!
i cannot stress enough how much i ADORE THIS SONG. when i watched this movie for the first time i legit had to pause it after this song to process how incredible it was (that may sound weird but i’m a MASSIVE music nerd, especially with 80’s-90’s music and musicals) and i legit replayed it like, 10 times with my jaw hanging open. this movie is so incredible for so many reasons but i, without a single shred of irony, consider mok to genuinely be one of the greatest animated villains of all time.
Yes, sing to us, Lou! This movie may have been weird as hell and I had no idea what was going on, but it was still fun to watch and now I've got the Transformers album. It's such a perfect day and I'm glad I spent it with you.
this is such alluring animation, its so good yet so... slimy
This movie was a masterpiece, I'm glad i came across it.
"MY NAME IS DOOF AND YOU'LL DO WHAT I SAY!"
L E A V E 😂
@@beepbeep958 "Noooooooo cuurse youu parry de platypus!"
Woop, Woop
That is a great way to end the video (that look on Mok's face at the end)
Note that every song of Mok’s was about how awesome he thinks he is
Triumph of the glory. Triumph of the glory of me. Triumph!
Well he is the greatest thing since World War 3.
VERNE ANDRU? The animator who did Rock and Rule? I LOVE this 80s underground classic. I feel so bad that it didn't grad like Heavy Metal did, but I still loved this! Not just an animated musical, but also a scifi / postapocalyptic. Maybe that's just it; this was meant for us cosplay and scifi geeks. PLEASE come to DragonCon in Atlanta someday!
Hi - I worked primarily in story doing layouts, storyboards, designs, that sort of thing. I was actually on my way to work on Heavy Metal when Nelvana snagged me for Rock & Rule. I agree this is a better film and wish it had seen a better release than it got.
VerneAndru will you ever come out to DragonCon in Atlanta? Do you visit scifi cons in America?
I've done a few comic cons - Emerald City in Seattle and Alternate Press Expo in San Francisco. If I'm an invited guest, anything is possible - LOL.
I love this movie and soundtrack so much.
Dracula + David Bowie = Mok
I absolutely love this artwork/animation style. Don't know what to call it, just love it. Everything in this movie fit together so well (visually, soundtrack) regardless of legitimate criticisms some may have.
Great tune and video. I remember seeing it first on the CBC in the early 80's when I was 8 or 9 years old. Never knew it was Lou Reed though. What a great surprise.
this is an excellent example of why cell-animation is so great at lighting
Mok is my favorite animated villian of all time!
My favorite villain period.
They did awesome job making the movie and the graphics i can see that they put in thier hard earn work and dedication they got the talent the heart and soul for thier artwork.
Aparently a deleted line in the movie he decided to take revenge on his fans and the world because there were TWO OPEN SEATS at his last show.
Wow, that's tragic. He deserves to be on these "Villains that were actually right" RUclips videos.
This is one of my favorite sequences in the movie, both musically and design-wise. Just wanted to share a story: When Rock and Rule originally appeared in one small movie theater in Boston, it was always sold out. Cut to the late 80's, I attended a Lou Reed concert in Boston full of fans who listened attentively to every word he spoke in between songs. During a pause, an audience member suddenly shrieked, "MOK!!!!" Lou looked very surprised, and said, "Mok?" The audience reacted excitedly, I held my breath, and for a split second, hoped that he would actually launch into the song. But of course he hadn't rehearsed it with the band, so he didn't. But I'd always hoped that Lou had realized the appreciation we all had for his work on the film that had largely gone unrecognized at that point.
Fabulous story. Thanks so much for sharing!
Hands down to the visual effects. Pretty epic i must say. 👍💪
Thanks. These were all done optically using tech ILM developed for Star Wars. There was one computer but that was used to control the camera stand.
So many Rock & rule vids from years ago are now resurfacing in the youtube feeds.
The film was done 40 years ago, I've had my clips up for years and it is only now that people are taking notice. Go figure. Just goes to show that if you wait long enough eventually things get noticed.
One of Lou Reed's greatest lost classics! Thanks for a perfect upload
Now this is how you make a villain song.
love the whole Mick Jagger look they used for Mok
1:57....foreshadowing...
This movie was so painfully embarrassing and cheesy yet I can't not watch it. Love it!
A proud owner of this movie!
Jeeez this song is catchy :D And Im in love with the animation, so expressive!
I love you Lou Reed.
Thanks a lot Nelvana
He reminds me of Dr. Frank N. Furter From The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Edit: Thanks A Lot I was not the only one
Behold the love child between David Bowie & Mick Jagger.
I love that song!!! 😁😁😁😁👍👍👍👍
Every once in awhile this gets stuck in my head as "His name is Mok, Can You Not?"
I really like the lore of "I'm the biggest thing since WW3"
love how in the dream it was foreshadowing his fall
I paid a pretty penny but this will be in the mail this Thursday 😁
Jeffree Star in 20 years once he returns to his music career
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This'll be stuck in my head for weeks....
Ego The Living Planet: I have a huge narcissistic attitude.
Mok: About that...
I remember stumbling across this movie on the CBC when I was about 11 years old... it confused the hell out of me but I couldn't help but watch...
Thumbs up if you agree this is the best rock video of all time!!
Maybe the best one since World War 3
My favorite version!
The mud and slag of this unmastered version lend to its swagger!
Impressive animation and music
God I saw someone on insta playing a clip of this villain from the film and I fell absolutely in mad love with this character and I haven’t even seen the movie myself! I can’t wait to watch this lol it looks so trippy and funky.
Hands down the best part of the movie! I don't care what anyone says.
9/10 masterpiece! We didn't deserve this movie!
Mok looks like someone who likes to take a walk on the wild side.
Such an underrated treasure... Thanks for helping to grow something I love! Well, for creating the first Cannabis-themed superhero, too lol
Couldn't agree more!
one of my first loves.. Heavy Metal Mag.. Issac Asimov.. Bashki everything.. and This bad ass Movie... I am all grown up now.. well kinda... and been on a mission to reclaim these into my life.. I have managed to get just about all and constantly finding classic adult animated productions.. so NOT cartoons.. and this one was elusive to me for a while.. got it now..as well as about all Bashki..
Just finished this movie and I wish I had an album. ❤
Not sure if they ever released a record of the music. I agree it would be killer.
They didn’t ever release one as the movie failed in box office, sadly.
Why the heck does his design remind me in Tim Curry?! XD
+Arti Ficus to much midnight movie times in this, and others, including Rocky Horror perhaps
I'll give a a hint ..."and in the beginning there were lips, and they were good...and the lips said....* Michael Remy was ill the day the Earth stood still, but he told us...where we stand....and I really got hot...*
Definitely in the same vein as a Rocky Horror Picture show, right down the charisma and red lips.