How I wished more of these updated retro games were given the visual treatment SoR4 has gotten. The updated designs are gorgeous. I particularly love the lighting. Never seen a 2d game where the characters felt so well integrated into the environments. Heck, the art team somehow even managed to add convincing rim lighting. Having the best 2d animations since Garou also helps of course. Man, when I heard about the new Turtles game from the same publisher I was really hoping it looked more like SoR. Bummer. I mean I like pixel art. But I'm also a little tired of it at this point.
(Stage 2 with Blaze 4 and Axel 4 for the lvl extension) after you beat all cops, you need to get on the right of the box with the pipe inside. Break it, Pick it up the pipe. From that spot where the pipe was. Forward Jump. On the hight of the 2nd jump throw the pipe. On the hight of the 3rd jump catch the pipe by holding the grab button. Get the money. Then walk down where the opening of the prison bars and throw the pipe to hit the garage can with the apple in it. Then you can hit the remaining garage to keep the combo going. (My full lvl 2 combo with axel 4 has the game play showing what it looks like. )
@@TheElectricUnderground I can full combo a few stages on mania. In a arcade run it will be hard due to the enemies messing up my strategy. Though I manly play 4 players co op
When it comes to full-stage combos, there are only a few spots where they're not possible, and the devs asked for feedback on how to change these in the official Discord, though they didn't say whether or not they could change that stuff in the patch coming with the DLC. Fingers crossed.
I haven't read other peoples' opinions, but I like SoR4's length. It was a quarter of a century since SoR3, so I want SoR4 to not be over too soon. Arcade games and 90s anti-rental console games had to be short enough to finish in one sitting, but today's console and PC games don't have to be. SoR4's save files and level select are good things! SoR4 has various challenge modes to give you something short and tough.
The best Beat em up you can buy is Streets of Rage 4. The second best beat em up game you can get is Streets of Rage Remake 5.2. Funny how the best Arcade style beat em up was always a console game.
Such a great game franchise so good I used to play the 1st one with my mum, the best memory was level 8 with mumzie and us struggling through to the boss completing the game
Cheers on a review that is actually helpful. I like how you give your detailed opinion on what you like and don't. I don't know how others think, but that's why I watch your videos regardless of the genre. Keep up the good work!
i just gave marvin gaye's records a first real listening a couple of days ago, and twenty minutes ago while making breakfast i was singing-humming the song what's going on, then i watched this video. so good, i love it. great content btw :)
Have you played The Takeover? I had a lot of fun with that game. It's heavily influenced by SoR, but it has it's own pretty unique style, plus you have a gun. And there's an Afterburner-style level. I highly recommend you give it a shot!
The dlc trailer really makes me want to jump back into this game. We had a blast. It was pretty funny realising you can turn off friendly fire right at the end of the game 🤣. Cherry is my favourite character.
@Stephen Smith In my book, DDSOM is the best beat em up ever. Very detailed stages, different paths, responsive contols, good combo system and light rpg elements. Coop 4p mode is especially interesting.
Art Gallery is one of my favorite stages, you take back what you said. It's also one of the shortest stages with 7 being the shortest. Delete stage 10 instead.
The pace on art gallery is glacial and the enemy choice isn t very engagingly, stage 10 is meh as well, but I would still remove art gallery instead of stage 10
@@TheElectricUnderground I disagree. I think part of the reason why SOR4 sold 3 million copies is because it's Streets of Rage. Streets of Rage 1 & 2 both sold over 1 million copies during an era when that was rare outside of mascot plats like Sonic. SOR is like Parasite Eve in the sense that they were once popular games that fell off because neither of them have had a sequel in 2 decades. Double Dragon had a live action movie but that series as a whole fell off. DD4 was actually a good game which remained true to the DD fundamentals but damn near everyone hates it because it plays & looks like DD. I think if SOR4 just did a straight up remake, it still would've sold millions simply because it's Streets of rage. It's usually the only beat em up that most casuals like.
I definitely enjoyed SoR4, but after playing Fight N' Rage, I can't help but feel like its mobility/defensive options are just sort of lacking in comparison. It's an issue of design preference for sure, but I think something like FNR is more my speed.
Even though I don't like the route that they went but I'm not going to judge until the DLC comes out cuz in my honest opinion SOR4 skate max dr. zan and roo should have been DLC having Shiva be the boss for the DLC trying to bring back mr. X because his kids failed I think that would have been a better route but it's just my opinion the DLC can still be a success and I hope it does so we can get a SOR5 in the future
Yeah! I also hope we don t get the indie thing where they never make sof5 and instead just do a yearly dlc on 4, a few years of dlc support is fine but sometime it can get silly
Here's where I stand on SR4 - I love beat em ups but hate it when my beat em ups incorporate fighting games elements because I dislike the fighting games genre, I don't like memorizing combos, pulling combos off and all that stuff. - I have been replaying SoR1, 2 and 3 over and over for years and that hasn't changed in the past year, SoR4 maybe I played it like twice after I initially finished it, it's just not as relaxing to me, it's longer, requires ever so slightly more focus and the fact that you talk about balancing and stuff? Dude..I have SoR1, 2 and 3 original, I pop the cart in my mega drive and PLAY I don't pay attention to balancing or executing moves or any of that junk, I just play through my beat em ups like normal. So while I do think SoR4 is a great game, it's not a pick up and play enough for me to...just randomly casually pick it up and play it. Same goes for Fight 'n Rage. This generation, the single best beat em up is Slaps and Beans, now THAT I keep replaying and loving every second of, I didn't even know about the actors whose movies it's based on, I own the physical version on Switch (I also have SoR4 physical of course) and love it to pieces.
@@seanmcbay Of course, that's why I finished it and played it a couple more times. But it does lean a little more towards fighting games than I'd like it to, there's a bit more strategy involved, it's a tad more complex. I'm not saying it's a bad game, if I had to give it a score I'd give it 9.0/10, it's a damn good game just not one I feel the need to replay. On the other hand the Ninja Warriors Remake/Remaster I simply can't get enough of, I love every second of it, in fact I haven't played the SNES version since I got the Switch one. (I own both physical and original, pretty darn proud of that :) )
I was with you all the way until you blatantly disrespected the Art Gallery. Nah, I strongly disagree with you about the Art Gallery stage. I believe it's fine as is. It clearly has the best soundtrack of all the stages. I think it fits the storyline well for a smooth transition. It's call an Art Gallery for a reason.
I found SOR4 to be massively disappointing due to the hit/hurt boxes or enemy spacing. For some reason you can’t downair to back grab in the same way or really lock in your attacks. I was basically devastated by this and still can’t describe what it is that makes it so much worse to me. I absolutely despise the purposely bad American anime art (like Netflix’s Castlevania) too, and the music I found mostly bad. I’m about to play it again to try out Max but not too hopeful. To me Fight’N Rage is king followed by SOR2 and 3. Thanks for the great videos!
Anybody complaining about the game link clearly doesn’t like video games why spent $60 for a game that only losses you a short period of time I want my moneys worth and the game did that
I personally don't enjoy this game at all. I can also beat it with any character in Mania (now Mania+) but I find it more annoying than fun. I feel like they played it too safe when it comes to the AI and enemy design, the AI and attack patterns are too basic and similar to the old games to the point where they're only challenging when the screen is full of enemies but pretty easy by themselves. I don't know, for all the praise the game gets for supposedly having a lot of depth, it ends up being extremely mindless to me. The graphics are a mix bag, I personally don't like them but also don't care enough to stop me from playing, but the gameplay to me is still too basic. I'm still waiting for a developer to try something truly new with this genre.
@@TheElectricUnderground It's kind of frustrating because it does have some really cool things like the combo/chaining system you mentioned in this video and I like how the wall bounce, juggle, OTG and cancellable moves complement that, but on the other hand it feels like they were too scared to stray away too far from SOR2.
Sorry, there was not one week stage in this game and the art stage was very enjoyable and boss battles were amazing in this game. Unlike other beat them ups were boss battles are not usually all that great.
That s crazy! Yeah river city girls is a very long one! Bog and I talk about it in the beat em up electric live :-)ruclips.net/video/SYw7J2YQWC8/видео.html
It has come to my attention that you have slandered my favorite stage, ze art gallery. In response, I ask you to comprehend the fact that I am going to make the statement of removing you from all social media platforms, otherwise known as the activism of cancelle culture. (This is joke, chill out with the politics.)
The soundtrack is amazing. I’m sorry you’re acting like a spoiled brat here about wanting more variety. You play video games to play video games not listen to an album.
How can it hold up when it was nothing more than an insult to the franchise in the first place? It can't. You want more SoR past 3, SoR that's done PROPERLY by people that actually understand the series and how it plays, play the SoR Remake instead. 4's enemy design is trash (the new designs), the level design is worse (all the decent new level designs were just ripped off from the SoR Remake), the OST was disappointing and the overall art style is just ugly, there's really no other way to say it, it's amateurish looking and ugly.
@@seanmcbay I've been a HUGE fan of the series since SoR1. Was really really excited for 4. It was the first time I ever used the Steam refund option. 4 feels like a cheaply made fan game where as the Streets of Rage Remake, which was an actual fan game feels way more like a true sequel than 4.
@@beanwithbacon He likes the start of every comment chain lol. The fact that you think it makes your opinion special is pretty embarrassing. Also, the juggling and wall bounce mechanics in this game adds a ton more combat variety and depth than even the classic games had. SoR4 adds something legitimately new to the series while Remake just steals from better games and makes their level design worse.
@@WarpedByTheNHK The juggling and wall bounce makes the combat feel cheap and much easier, especially on some of the boss stages. Not only that but it felt more like I was playing Double Dragon Neon than a SoR title. Then there's the art style, sorry bt it's actually LESS detailed than the pixel art of previous games. All the new sprites with the ugly as fuck thick outlines look like they were drawn by a 5th grade art class.
@@beanwithbacon You do realize you could infinite combo most of the bosses in the old games as well, right? It just looked a lot less cool and was less free-form and expressive. You are free to have your own opinion on the art, but I personally really enjoy the ways the game plays with lighting.
How I wished more of these updated retro games were given the visual treatment SoR4 has gotten. The updated designs are gorgeous. I particularly love the lighting. Never seen a 2d game where the characters felt so well integrated into the environments. Heck, the art team somehow even managed to add convincing rim lighting. Having the best 2d animations since Garou also helps of course.
Man, when I heard about the new Turtles game from the same publisher I was really hoping it looked more like SoR. Bummer. I mean I like pixel art. But I'm also a little tired of it at this point.
Yes exactly, I would love to see more hi res 2d art these days, like king of for fighters 13
(Stage 2 with Blaze 4 and Axel 4 for the lvl extension) after you beat all cops, you need to get on the right of the box with the pipe inside. Break it, Pick it up the pipe. From that spot where the pipe was. Forward Jump. On the hight of the 2nd jump throw the pipe. On the hight of the 3rd jump catch the pipe by holding the grab button. Get the money. Then walk down where the opening of the prison bars and throw the pipe to hit the garage can with the apple in it. Then you can hit the remaining garage to keep the combo going.
(My full lvl 2 combo with axel 4 has the game play showing what it looks like. )
Thank you so much for the tip! That s a tricky link for sure. Are you able to full chain the game?
@@TheElectricUnderground I can full combo a few stages on mania. In a arcade run it will be hard due to the enemies messing up my strategy. Though I manly play 4 players co op
When it comes to full-stage combos, there are only a few spots where they're not possible, and the devs asked for feedback on how to change these in the official Discord, though they didn't say whether or not they could change that stuff in the patch coming with the DLC. Fingers crossed.
they definitely should, makes no sense not to!
I haven't read other peoples' opinions, but I like SoR4's length. It was a quarter of a century since SoR3, so I want SoR4 to not be over too soon. Arcade games and 90s anti-rental console games had to be short enough to finish in one sitting, but today's console and PC games don't have to be. SoR4's save files and level select are good things! SoR4 has various challenge modes to give you something short and tough.
It absolutely holds up. Reminding everyone that Streets of Rage is still the king of beat em ups.
The best Beat em up you can buy is Streets of Rage 4. The second best beat em up game you can get is Streets of Rage Remake 5.2. Funny how the best Arcade style beat em up was always a console game.
SOR2, BK3, SORR and SOR4 is a lineup no other beat em up franchise can dream of
Such a great game franchise so good I used to play the 1st one with my mum, the best memory was level 8 with mumzie and us struggling through to the boss completing the game
Cheers on a review that is actually helpful. I like how you give your detailed opinion on what you like and don't. I don't know how others think, but that's why I watch your videos regardless of the genre. Keep up the good work!
i just gave marvin gaye's records a first real listening a couple of days ago, and twenty minutes ago while making breakfast i was singing-humming the song what's going on, then i watched this video. so good, i love it. great content btw :)
Still holds up in 2024!!
Started playing this and Fight N' Rage, great fun although I need to get a lot better
Keep an eye out! I have a commentary vid for it coming out soon
I cant wait for the dlc to drop tbh, also what do you think of knights of the round?
this is gonna sound crazy but I've never played Knights of the round (except when I was really little) so I'll have to check it out again!
Have you played The Takeover? I had a lot of fun with that game. It's heavily influenced by SoR, but it has it's own pretty unique style, plus you have a gun. And there's an Afterburner-style level. I highly recommend you give it a shot!
The dlc trailer really makes me want to jump back into this game. We had a blast. It was pretty funny realising you can turn off friendly fire right at the end of the game 🤣.
Cherry is my favourite character.
D&D Shadow Over Mystara is still the best beat em up in my opinion.
@Stephen Smith In my book, DDSOM is the best beat em up ever. Very detailed stages, different paths, responsive contols, good combo system and light rpg elements. Coop 4p mode is especially interesting.
@@Hiperid What about Dragon's Crown (Vanillaware, 2013, PS3, PS4)? It is like DDSOM/TOD but improved in every aspects!
@@Leynx-Et-Fenrir Totally forgot, great beat em up!
Art Gallery is one of my favorite stages, you take back what you said. It's also one of the shortest stages with 7 being the shortest. Delete stage 10 instead.
The pace on art gallery is glacial and the enemy choice isn t very engagingly, stage 10 is meh as well, but I would still remove art gallery instead of stage 10
Art gallery def had the best song, it was one of the only tracks that sounded like a Streets of rage track.
Adam's Green Dragon Kick is such a sweet graphic
You should do a video on how the updates have changed the game, lot of stage changes with this and Gungrave Gore as well.
Amen on the release date! Good review.
thanks my dude!
ik it has been a few years but:
PC and Steam Deck + other PC handheld devices: allow us to introduce ourselves
That feeling where you mention a franchise is "popular, but not like crazy iconic" is such a mood!
ha the point I was trying to get across is that the game couldn't just skate by on the franchise alone :-)
@@TheElectricUnderground I disagree. I think part of the reason why SOR4 sold 3 million copies is because it's Streets of Rage. Streets of Rage 1 & 2 both sold over 1 million copies during an era when that was rare outside of mascot plats like Sonic. SOR is like Parasite Eve in the sense that they were once popular games that fell off because neither of them have had a sequel in 2 decades. Double Dragon had a live action movie but that series as a whole fell off.
DD4 was actually a good game which remained true to the DD fundamentals but damn near everyone hates it because it plays & looks like DD. I think if SOR4 just did a straight up remake, it still would've sold millions simply because it's Streets of rage. It's usually the only beat em up that most casuals like.
I definitely enjoyed SoR4, but after playing Fight N' Rage, I can't help but feel like its mobility/defensive options are just sort of lacking in comparison. It's an issue of design preference for sure, but I think something like FNR is more my speed.
Stop it
@@Hunt9-qb1if ?
Good luck with your Shiva runs. He is not an easy character to get through Mania with :)
was so close!!! got to the last boss, could have had it ugh!
He’s like the easiest actually
Even though I don't like the route that they went but I'm not going to judge until the DLC comes out cuz in my honest opinion SOR4 skate max dr. zan and roo should have been DLC having Shiva be the boss for the DLC trying to bring back mr. X because his kids failed I think that would have been a better route but it's just my opinion the DLC can still be a success and I hope it does so we can get a SOR5 in the future
Yeah! I also hope we don t get the indie thing where they never make sof5 and instead just do a yearly dlc on 4, a few years of dlc support is fine but sometime it can get silly
Here's where I stand on SR4
- I love beat em ups but hate it when my beat em ups incorporate fighting games elements because I dislike the fighting games genre, I don't like memorizing combos, pulling combos off and all that stuff.
- I have been replaying SoR1, 2 and 3 over and over for years and that hasn't changed in the past year, SoR4 maybe I played it like twice after I initially finished it, it's just not as relaxing to me, it's longer, requires ever so slightly more focus and the fact that you talk about balancing and stuff? Dude..I have SoR1, 2 and 3 original, I pop the cart in my mega drive and PLAY I don't pay attention to balancing or executing moves or any of that junk, I just play through my beat em ups like normal.
So while I do think SoR4 is a great game, it's not a pick up and play enough for me to...just randomly casually pick it up and play it.
Same goes for Fight 'n Rage.
This generation, the single best beat em up is Slaps and Beans, now THAT I keep replaying and loving every second of, I didn't even know about the actors whose movies it's based on, I own the physical version on Switch (I also have SoR4 physical of course) and love it to pieces.
@@seanmcbay Of course, that's why I finished it and played it a couple more times. But it does lean a little more towards fighting games than I'd like it to, there's a bit more strategy involved, it's a tad more complex.
I'm not saying it's a bad game, if I had to give it a score I'd give it 9.0/10, it's a damn good game just not one I feel the need to replay.
On the other hand the Ninja Warriors Remake/Remaster I simply can't get enough of, I love every second of it, in fact I haven't played the SNES version since I got the Switch one. (I own both physical and original, pretty darn proud of that :) )
@@GamingPalOllieMK But both SOR4 and Ninja Warriors Again are combo and juggle based, how come only one clicked for you?
I liked it more when the AI was harder and unfair. 😅
But the new characters made it worth it.
Oh hell yeah the new dude is so much fun
Hello Mark. Bought this bad boy this week, really enjoying. Where can I find your 1cc commentary?
I thought thats iori. Amazing. Should have his typical moveset.
His moveset is actually pretty close to his moveset in kof, which is really cool
I was with you all the way until you blatantly disrespected the Art Gallery. Nah, I strongly disagree with you about the Art Gallery stage. I believe it's fine as is. It clearly has the best soundtrack of all the stages. I think it fits the storyline well for a smooth transition. It's call an Art Gallery for a reason.
My main concerns are much more on the gameplay side of things, with the game s pacing and enemy design for the stage
Wonder if the Art Gallery stage could be modded out.
that would be pretty cool ha
Was it just me or SOR 3 was super hard even in normal
Yes, it s a tough one!
Sega made the non-Japanese region versions of the game much, much harder.
Lol DOTEMU doesn't care. they will drop the dlc when they are done with it. When they do you will love it, the end
I found SOR4 to be massively disappointing due to the hit/hurt boxes or enemy spacing. For some reason you can’t downair to back grab in the same way or really lock in your attacks. I was basically devastated by this and still can’t describe what it is that makes it so much worse to me. I absolutely despise the purposely bad American anime art (like Netflix’s Castlevania) too, and the music I found mostly bad. I’m about to play it again to try out Max but not too hopeful. To me Fight’N Rage is king followed by SOR2 and 3. Thanks for the great videos!
Netflix Castlevania looked gorgeous, what are you talking about?
Anybody complaining about the game link clearly doesn’t like video games why spent $60 for a game that only losses you a short period of time I want my moneys worth and the game did that
I personally don't enjoy this game at all. I can also beat it with any character in Mania (now Mania+) but I find it more annoying than fun.
I feel like they played it too safe when it comes to the AI and enemy design, the AI and attack patterns are too basic and similar to the old games to the point where they're only challenging when the screen is full of enemies but pretty easy by themselves. I don't know, for all the praise the game gets for supposedly having a lot of depth, it ends up being extremely mindless to me.
The graphics are a mix bag, I personally don't like them but also don't care enough to stop me from playing, but the gameplay to me is still too basic. I'm still waiting for a developer to try something truly new with this genre.
I can def understand that. I also think the really long length of the game really cuts into its replay-ability.
@@TheElectricUnderground It's kind of frustrating because it does have some really cool things like the combo/chaining system you mentioned in this video and I like how the wall bounce, juggle, OTG and cancellable moves complement that, but on the other hand it feels like they were too scared to stray away too far from SOR2.
Sorry, there was not one week stage in this game and the art stage was very enjoyable and boss battles were amazing in this game. Unlike other beat them ups were boss battles are not usually all that great.
Too bad nobody has made a detailed video guide how to go through the files and apply the mods
Oh it s actually really straightforward! You get the mod installer program and then you just drag and drop the files :-)
@@TheElectricUnderground Could you make a video how to do it?
He explained it pretty well. I was in agreement about the video until I read his one-paragraph breakdown. No need for a video, honestly.
This game is crack and I didn’t see it before. I own it on everything possible.
Two years later and the game still cheats so yeah, it definitely still "holds up," holds up to its original cheapness.
This game is very short compared to river city girls
That s crazy! Yeah river city girls is a very long one! Bog and I talk about it in the beat em up electric live :-)ruclips.net/video/SYw7J2YQWC8/видео.html
Lmao throwing shade at R-Type graphics
Ha just an example that popped into my head ;-)
@@TheElectricUnderground very fair example. Graphics just for the sake of graphics when it's the aesthetic design thats more important
I hate title videos like this of course it holds up as one of the greatest games of all time and easily the Illmatic of beat em ups
yes.
LMAO AT REMOVE STAGE WITH BEST MUSIC.
Yo
cello!
@@TheElectricUnderground is that a freakin Yo-Yo Ma reference? lol, my man!
It has come to my attention that you have slandered my favorite stage, ze art gallery. In response, I ask you to comprehend the fact that I am going to make the statement of removing you from all social media platforms, otherwise known as the activism of cancelle culture. (This is joke, chill out with the politics.)
It's still the worst game in the series. SoR remake is the REAL Streets of Rage sequel.
Wish I could play it online co op (no lag)😢
The soundtrack is amazing. I’m sorry you’re acting like a spoiled brat here about wanting more variety. You play video games to play video games not listen to an album.
No
Iori omg
How can it hold up when it was nothing more than an insult to the franchise in the first place? It can't. You want more SoR past 3, SoR that's done PROPERLY by people that actually understand the series and how it plays, play the SoR Remake instead. 4's enemy design is trash (the new designs), the level design is worse (all the decent new level designs were just ripped off from the SoR Remake), the OST was disappointing and the overall art style is just ugly, there's really no other way to say it, it's amateurish looking and ugly.
@@seanmcbay I've been a HUGE fan of the series since SoR1. Was really really excited for 4. It was the first time I ever used the Steam refund option. 4 feels like a cheaply made fan game where as the Streets of Rage Remake, which was an actual fan game feels way more like a true sequel than 4.
@@seanmcbay Oh and when the channel itself gives my comment a like it's gotta have some weight to it...
@@beanwithbacon He likes the start of every comment chain lol. The fact that you think it makes your opinion special is pretty embarrassing.
Also, the juggling and wall bounce mechanics in this game adds a ton more combat variety and depth than even the classic games had. SoR4 adds something legitimately new to the series while Remake just steals from better games and makes their level design worse.
@@WarpedByTheNHK The juggling and wall bounce makes the combat feel cheap and much easier, especially on some of the boss stages. Not only that but it felt more like I was playing Double Dragon Neon than a SoR title. Then there's the art style, sorry bt it's actually LESS detailed than the pixel art of previous games. All the new sprites with the ugly as fuck thick outlines look like they were drawn by a 5th grade art class.
@@beanwithbacon You do realize you could infinite combo most of the bosses in the old games as well, right? It just looked a lot less cool and was less free-form and expressive. You are free to have your own opinion on the art, but I personally really enjoy the ways the game plays with lighting.
Its so slow and clunky. Would be good with a parry or dodge. Game will only be good for people with nostalga glasses
This is 100% bait if I've ever seen it.