So happy to see a review from you. Take care of your self and get well soon. That fart sound is just ridiculous BUT those bi directional beams are stunning. I can see a million uses for them esp in building big trusses and so on.
The car is built with a positive caster angle on the front tires, when going in reverse it's negative, the wheels shaking is not due to the controller but due to the lack of control of a negative caster angle, the wheels are always trying to go back to a positive angle.
I actually got this set early from a toy shop yesterday and I gotta say I love it! I don't have the beta app or anything so I actually created my own custom control interface! I found that the servo calibration block itself isn't perfect at all so I created buttons that would fine tune the servo to have a deafult more to the left or more to the right, in increments of 10. Your review of this set is epic and I gotta say I love the fart sound effect!
Thank you for posting this. I like the building aspect but seeing it actually drive makes me want to dig out a traxxas RC car and drive that around for a bit
9:49 I've seen this same thing happen in RC cars, more commonly if using a gyro-sensing receiver. My best guess is the car thinks it's oversteering or understeering, but the car's gyro assumes it's still moving forward and incorrectly steers. As a hobbyist myself, I have yet to find an easy solution.
The in-app game reminds me of some of LEGO's proto-mixed-reality stuff from the '90s/early '00s. Some of it workd because it required interacting with physical things (e.g. Spybotics) but others were even worse than the buggy. It's a significant challenge to try to gamify toys but, as you say, the important thing is that you've got a physical toy to play with - you don't want to be looking away from it at a screen all the time. That buggy game *might* be good if it worked with 2 buggies and you could race and attack a real opponent... maybe.
That'd require sensors and other (expensive) equipment on the buggies to detect each other, and the dual control/focus issue is still there to resolve. I don't see how this could work unless they try something like Mario Kart Live.
I checked the L and the XL in my Arocs-Scale trucks, they have two drive motors and a weight of 5 to 6 kg (my TGX with the container trailer). With the L the technic hub shuts down earlier than with the XL.
I'm looking to buy eventually a 2nd technic hub with motors, but a set like this one or the rally car is cheaper and it comes with other pieces... but the thing is I only want the XL motors, so I don't know maybe I'll buy the xtreme off roader...
Great review, Balazs! With I 40% discount I might get this set. Too bad the Control+ App sux even more than previously. And if I want to play a video game I will certainly not use this dumb virtual battle.
I tested the L motor with a traditional geared rack steering setup, and it couldn't even get past the calibration process without popping out of gear or exploding the whole assembly. I see why they used this odd steering setup: the steering program for powered up isn't sensitive enough for delicate technic parts. I was hoping to convert some classic technic sets to Powered Up, but this is a big setback.
It's good to see that you are well and review - ready! Those tyres are awesome though... When will you review the Mclaren Senna GTR set? Just asking because it will go really well with my 42093.
2:26 this piece was kinda already existing in the CaDa construction sets (a "knock off" lego company, that makes some good quality sets! And the cada pieces are also of a pretty good quality)
A good set of Li-ion batteries would do this set well.. The customs sound effects that simulates your horn for your buggy are typical and the Pokémon style battles seems awkward unless you were in the Baja 1000.. Good review and looking forward to purchase this set when its available
Could you do a tutorial for this model on how to offset the steering slightly with the powered up app? I'm finding 42124 has a slight right bias, due to the differential. More noticeable when going off-road. Thank you!
You can use this guide, it has code to adjust steering. There are custom controllers (buttons and sliders) introduced since then, makes it even easier to set up. Here's the guide - racingbrick.com/lego-powered-up-simple-car-control/
How did you connect the powered up remote to the technic hub? On their website it doesn’t list that as an option. I’m hooking a train engine up to mine and I would LOVE to buy that cheap remote to let my son drive the train with it rather than my phone or iPad.
Couple days ago they updated the powered up app with new songs for the piano AND most importantly they fixed the scaling issue on iOS! So now all the buttons appear in the correct size for all interfaces within the app.
I get that this pokes fun at Lego, but keep in mind a good amount of hobbyists like myself started with Lego growing up and still enjoy Lego. For RC, I've went to hobby-grade, but I do occasionally try building models of mechanisms in Lego.
Battle Mode seems like a response to Mario Kart Live's AR elements. Just, y'know, without the AR elements or any sense of fun. Maybe they're planning to update it with a two-player mode? I noticed a lot of the marketing features 2 kids driving 2 cars. Perhaps they're holding off on it during the launch of the set, so it doesn't come across as 'hey, you just bought this expensive new car; now you gotta buy a second one to get the complete experience'. (Or maybe a 2-player battle mode was the plan, but Lego's marketing said 'nope, we're not convincing kids to spend €260 on two cars' and the designers tried to salvage the mode with a virtual opponent. Either way, not a great look, Lego.) Thanks for the review!
Can you please make a video on swapping the Xl motor with the off road buggy I just bought it and the xl motor to add speed but the control+ app giving hard time with the connections to the hub
@@QuaKall i wish the controller had internal memory so that it could run by itself without your mobile device. you just program the controller once and boom!
I posted about it on my various channels (Fb, Insta, RUclips Community tab), I will do a video when I'll have access to my parts again, maybe next week
Apparently LEGO started to sell sets with the new hub that has lid with screws instead of the previous snap-on lid. This will be the new standard due to some updated safety regulations.
Since the L motor is used as a servo for steering, not sure what else would you use there... Of course you can stack at the rear whatever you feel like.
Greeting I have two questions, how did you do to be able to drive the buggy with only the control without using a smartphone? How to get the highest speed of the Buggy? Thanks a lot
I didn't drive the buggy without a smartphone, it was controlled through the Powered Up app with the remote. It is possible to do without a smart device though, but you need a 3rd party app for that - ruclips.net/video/OI26ok1Kekc/видео.html
Hi, Can the new technic smart hub be integrated with the old hardware infra red joystick controls? I really prefer them rather than the smart devices apps. Thanks in advance!
well i know some ppl like joystick better but i hate it - i would prefer to have sliders in case of those useless sounds from phone... - well hope they will add option to choose sliders cuz its better ( i like app and design of it) also the "battle" mode seems something they just need to add to say "hey we have new things" - its totally useless and i guess even as i kid i would get bored fast cuz of it
For that you need to swap the motors as well, so basically convert to Power Functions, but I don't see the point. You can either use the Powered Up remote with it, or use a BT gamepad and the BrickController2 app.
Egy igazi buggy szett akkor lenne, ha olajos gátlókkal szerelnék. Ez egy igazi upgrade lenne a legónál. Akkor lehetne értelme az outdoor-ságnak. A szervó mennyire szervós? remek videó!
Does your custom Powered Up profile allow for incremental speed and steering? The virtual joystick would be a deal-breaker for me, but your custom controls look great.
@@cobalt_plated_eyeball I did not mean you can change the size, but you can gradually change the direction of steering and also the speed, not only 0/1 states.
Dear Racing Brick. I have two questions. Where did you get the remote controller that you have in your hands? You are controlling the Lego Technic 42124 Off-road buggy with it. By the way, does it works with other Lego Technic remote controlled sets too, normally controlled by the Lego Technic app on Android devices like smartphones and tablet computers?
You can buy the remote at lego.com, the number is 88010. Without the Powered Up app it only works with the AAA hub, but if you create a control profile for it in the Powered Up app just like I did then you can configure it for any set you prefer. Here's a video about it in action with a previous version of the app, now the configuration can be even more simple - ruclips.net/video/hLbr4si2Qfs/видео.html
Interesting idea, but the execution of the Battle mode is still a complete failure. You can't drive a car around in real life while trying to "fight" a virtual opponent.
I don't like how Lego is using smart apps to control their technic models. How long will they keep supporting the app? Will the app still work in a few years?
This was raised a million times already. The protocol is open and there are already several 3rd party apps, so even if LEGO discontinues the support in e.g. 10 years there will be other solutions available. You can still play 30 year old video games on your smartphone so there will be a solution for this one as well in the future.
The best way to make any Lego set motorized and remote controllable is simply build a traditional rc chassis of it's size then fit the frame on it. The longer Lego doing it the worst it gets imo after watching all these pre-release reviews on YT.
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The new alternating beam is super interesting, I bet it's going to help massively with a lot of builds
Palindromic set number! That won’t happen again for a while!
So happy to see a review from you. Take care of your self and get well soon.
That fart sound is just ridiculous
BUT those bi directional beams are stunning. I can see a million uses for them esp in building big trusses and so on.
Fart sound is for pranking, kind of its-not-me reaction.
Nice review! That app configuration and challenges made my day XD. Anyway I really like the new pieces, they look really usefull
The car is built with a positive caster angle on the front tires, when going in reverse it's negative, the wheels shaking is not due to the controller but due to the lack of control of a negative caster angle, the wheels are always trying to go back to a positive angle.
This has got to be one of my favorite videos so far I love how you explained everything you did
I actually got this set early from a toy shop yesterday and I gotta say I love it! I don't have the beta app or anything so I actually created my own custom control interface! I found that the servo calibration block itself isn't perfect at all so I created buttons that would fine tune the servo to have a deafult more to the left or more to the right, in increments of 10. Your review of this set is epic and I gotta say I love the fart sound effect!
Nice to see you are back from the hospital! And you don't look different at all!
Good video overall!
Thank you for posting this. I like the building aspect but seeing it actually drive makes me want to dig out a traxxas RC car and drive that around for a bit
Perfect review!! You are my favourite LEGO CHANNEL!
Looks like some of the rc cars from the eighties and early nineties! Tyco Turbo Hopper comes to mind.
9:49
I've seen this same thing happen in RC cars, more commonly if using a gyro-sensing receiver. My best guess is the car thinks it's oversteering or understeering, but the car's gyro assumes it's still moving forward and incorrectly steers. As a hobbyist myself, I have yet to find an easy solution.
This is a very good comment. Truly no sarcasm.
I really like your review. Already looking forward to your modification of this model with buwizz! ;-)
The in-app game reminds me of some of LEGO's proto-mixed-reality stuff from the '90s/early '00s. Some of it workd because it required interacting with physical things (e.g. Spybotics) but others were even worse than the buggy. It's a significant challenge to try to gamify toys but, as you say, the important thing is that you've got a physical toy to play with - you don't want to be looking away from it at a screen all the time. That buggy game *might* be good if it worked with 2 buggies and you could race and attack a real opponent... maybe.
That'd require sensors and other (expensive) equipment on the buggies to detect each other, and the dual control/focus issue is still there to resolve. I don't see how this could work unless they try something like Mario Kart Live.
Whats the apps name?
as a vintage rc buggy enthusiast i just found out about this! and i might get one!
Why were you in the hospital? Edit: Nvm I watched the video, so glad the surgery went well, so glad you recovered well.
I checked the L and the XL in my Arocs-Scale trucks, they have two drive motors and a weight of 5 to 6 kg (my TGX with the container trailer). With the L the technic hub shuts down earlier than with the XL.
I'm looking to buy eventually a 2nd technic hub with motors, but a set like this one or the rally car is cheaper and it comes with other pieces... but the thing is I only want the XL motors, so I don't know maybe I'll buy the xtreme off roader...
Great review, Balazs! With I 40% discount I might get this set. Too bad the Control+ App sux even more than previously. And if I want to play a video game I will certainly not use this dumb virtual battle.
i got the top gear set for half priced and i still felt that was over priced
I never noticed but the buggy is based off the city buggy set, also thanks for the tutorial I wanted to see if I should get this or not
I tested the L motor with a traditional geared rack steering setup, and it couldn't even get past the calibration process without popping out of gear or exploding the whole assembly. I see why they used this odd steering setup: the steering program for powered up isn't sensitive enough for delicate technic parts. I was hoping to convert some classic technic sets to Powered Up, but this is a big setback.
It's good to see that you are well and review - ready! Those tyres are awesome though...
When will you review the Mclaren Senna GTR set? Just asking because it will go really well with my 42093.
I will publish the review when LEGO allows it
Odd that the motors do not show up on the part list, I noticed this is also true on the digital instructions.
2:26 this piece was kinda already existing in the CaDa construction sets (a "knock off" lego company, that makes some good quality sets! And the cada pieces are also of a pretty good quality)
Cada also have pretty good remote control for pf motors
Well it is new to LEGO. Not CaDa.
The Chinese copy lego, lego copies Chinese bricks :)
Cada doesn't copy old Lego sets, they make their own designs or work together with fan designers
Well they don't copy sets but they borrowed a lot of part designs, so I think we cannot blame LEGO here to get inspired by them :)
Oh reminds me of my old Jet Hopper from back in the 80s
Welcome back!!
A good set of Li-ion batteries would do this set well.. The customs sound effects that simulates your horn for your buggy are typical and the Pokémon style battles seems awkward unless you were in the Baja 1000.. Good review and looking forward to purchase this set when its available
wow is it around 70% more expensive (for euro) from previous Remote-Controlled Stunt Racer because of control+ ?
Nice video review, when will you review 42125 Ferrari? I just like your style and POV other than someome who think he is great 😉
I will finish the review in a few days
Can you share your powered up control as I don't get how to code the powered up app.
how much of a difference in speed would there be if i used this with the new buwizz unit but kept the same motors
Check out my BuWizz test video, you can see a small test about it
Could you do a tutorial for this model on how to offset the steering slightly with the powered up app? I'm finding 42124 has a slight right bias, due to the differential. More noticeable when going off-road. Thank you!
You can use this guide, it has code to adjust steering. There are custom controllers (buttons and sliders) introduced since then, makes it even easier to set up. Here's the guide - racingbrick.com/lego-powered-up-simple-car-control/
@@RacingBrick thank you!
cant wait for mod videos to make this faster and stronger...
I read that wrong. Thought you said mod videos to make the farts louder! :)
10+ Lego, really? This is like a 4+ set. Thanks for the review by the way!
i highly doubt a 4 year old would be able to build this by himself without help
how does it compare to the topgear rally car, would one be better off buying that one or this one?
Why aren't there the two wide motor on the parts list?
How did you connect the powered up remote to the technic hub? On their website it doesn’t list that as an option. I’m hooking a train engine up to mine and I would LOVE to buy that cheap remote to let my son drive the train with it rather than my phone or iPad.
Couple days ago they updated the powered up app with new songs for the piano AND most importantly they fixed the scaling issue on iOS! So now all the buttons appear in the correct size for all interfaces within the app.
That alternating beam. Yes. Very yes. So many struggles to rigidly change stud direction begone!
The app is sad :(
What are the Top 10 most functional Lego technics
Será que vamos tê-lo aqui no Brasil?
Ah a new Tamiya.... no wait, Tamiya uses real RC controls
Yes and real parts
I get that this pokes fun at Lego, but keep in mind a good amount of hobbyists like myself started with Lego growing up and still enjoy Lego. For RC, I've went to hobby-grade, but I do occasionally try building models of mechanisms in Lego.
I still build things with lego...
OOOOOHHH DAMN
What should I do to connect train remote to technic hub?
You need to create a code in the PU app and connect both the remote and the hub to the app
@@RacingBrick Would you please show a screenshot/photo of the program in PU app. I tried but without success. Many thanks! :)
Battle Mode seems like a response to Mario Kart Live's AR elements.
Just, y'know, without the AR elements or any sense of fun.
Maybe they're planning to update it with a two-player mode? I noticed a lot of the marketing features 2 kids driving 2 cars. Perhaps they're holding off on it during the launch of the set, so it doesn't come across as 'hey, you just bought this expensive new car; now you gotta buy a second one to get the complete experience'.
(Or maybe a 2-player battle mode was the plan, but Lego's marketing said 'nope, we're not convincing kids to spend €260 on two cars' and the designers tried to salvage the mode with a virtual opponent. Either way, not a great look, Lego.)
Thanks for the review!
I never have the inner end of the rim facing out. I always put the inner the way it should inner in the inner side
Excellent review. Thank you!
Can you please make a video on swapping the Xl motor with the off road buggy I just bought it and the xl motor to add speed but the control+ app giving hard time with the connections to the hub
It won't give you more speed than the L motor
I really want this set but if they don't change the joystick controls, I won't be, as much as I want it
You can easily use custom controllers in the Powered Up app
@@RacingBrick ah ok, that's good, because I have that same remote you were using later in the video, thanks for the info
What is the playtime? I mean the battery life?
should I buy this set or the topgear rally car. to me the two sets look the same
The rally car is slower and not as cool
Is it possible to control the car with only the Powered Up controller or do you need something else?
You need to create the code for it in the Powered Up app and the app needs to run with both the remote and the hub connected to it
@@RacingBrick thank you, what a shame it isnt a standalone controller
@@QuaKall i wish the controller had internal memory so that it could run by itself without your mobile device. you just program the controller once and boom!
Nice review i will get it at some point but not for that retail price tag.
Nice video. Will you make review of Lego Powered Up update? It has support of new motors
I posted about it on my various channels (Fb, Insta, RUclips Community tab), I will do a video when I'll have access to my parts again, maybe next week
Nice video! I have a Powered up remote control 88009, how can I connect it to this car?
This would give you the best experience - ruclips.net/video/OI26ok1Kekc/видео.html
did you not need to unscrew the battery pack? i just finished building this. can't find the right screw driver so i can put the batteries
Apparently LEGO started to sell sets with the new hub that has lid with screws instead of the previous snap-on lid. This will be the new standard due to some updated safety regulations.
@@RacingBrick ok thanks for the info.
how do you use other control to drive?
Glad you’re ok mate.
Is there a way to mount two L motors for more power? Steering really doesn't need an L motor.
Since the L motor is used as a servo for steering, not sure what else would you use there... Of course you can stack at the rear whatever you feel like.
Imagine BuWizz 3.0 and Buggy motors 👀 @RacingBrick that would be a legendary video and how are you feeling brother
I'm sure that'd require some structural changes but we'll see as soon as the BuWizz products will be available ;)
Greeting
I have two questions, how did you do to be able to drive the buggy with only the control without using a smartphone? How to get the highest speed of the Buggy? Thanks a lot
I didn't drive the buggy without a smartphone, it was controlled through the Powered Up app with the remote. It is possible to do without a smart device though, but you need a 3rd party app for that - ruclips.net/video/OI26ok1Kekc/видео.html
@@RacingBrick thank you, this solution is better and "this is not permanent", really thank you so much
Hey balazs will you do a review for the b models for 42103 and 42104 sets?
Those were built but not filmed you are right.. I'll see if I can find them :)
Hi, Can the new technic smart hub be integrated with the old hardware infra red joystick controls? I really prefer them rather than the smart devices apps. Thanks in advance!
No, the new system uses Bluetooth, they are not compatible. You can use the Powered Up remote, but that one only has buttons.
You can use BrickController2, that's a 3rd party app that enables to use Bluetooth game controllers with the hub. I have videos about it.
How does one get the "Power Up App"? If I get 2 of these... do they interfere with each other?
You download it from the Play / App store, it's called Powered Up. You can control multiple hubs without a problem.
Would its motorized parts work with the LEGO Technic Porsche or Ferrari?
Technically they would, but a single L motor is pretty weak to move such big bodies so they'd be pretty slow.
@@RacingBrick I didn't realize they're larger than the Off-road Buggy. Thank you for the information!
Whats number is remote pilot?
I'm new to getting into lego technics. My first was the porsche 911 rsr and second the senna. Would it be possible motorise the porsche using this set
Technically it is possible but a single motor would be to weak for that car, it'd be very slow.
@@RacingBrick thank you for your reply :-) I'll look other motors.
What do you think about the spring rate!? Imo all Lego cars är sprung to high.
It's a very small and lightweight set, I wouldn't expect any realistic suspension here
well i know some ppl like joystick better but i hate it - i would prefer to have sliders in case of those useless sounds from phone... - well hope they will add option to choose sliders cuz its better ( i like app and design of it) also the "battle" mode seems something they just need to add to say "hey we have new things" - its totally useless and i guess even as i kid i would get bored fast cuz of it
you can create custom slider control in the powered up app itself
Did you want to made a video where you upgrade It?
the frame and liftarm are not new cada have it long time ago
like the horn thing is cool but why would a buggy fart?
You can swap for ir receiver and battery pack so you can use controller
For that you need to swap the motors as well, so basically convert to Power Functions, but I don't see the point. You can either use the Powered Up remote with it, or use a BT gamepad and the BrickController2 app.
Oh I thought they were regular m motor.
Derp!
Egy igazi buggy szett akkor lenne, ha olajos gátlókkal szerelnék. Ez egy igazi upgrade lenne a legónál. Akkor lehetne értelme az outdoor-ságnak.
A szervó mennyire szervós? remek videó!
A LEGO nem állítja hogy ez kültéri szett lenne, nem összehasonlítható az RC buggykkal. Egész más a célcsoport, itt továbbra is az építés a lényeg.
@@RacingBrick persze, tudom. De hatalmas ugrás lenne. Maga a gátló valós működésének tanulmányozása is remek dolog.
Trying to find some Rechargeable battery mod for this control+ in 42124 and 42140.
Anyone seen something like that?
There were a few crowdfunding attempts but nothing made it to become a product. Your best shot is to get rechargeable AAs.
Does your custom Powered Up profile allow for incremental speed and steering? The virtual joystick would be a deal-breaker for me, but your custom controls look great.
Sure, the sliders are proportional
@@RacingBrick how did you resize them?
@@cobalt_plated_eyeball I did not mean you can change the size, but you can gradually change the direction of steering and also the speed, not only 0/1 states.
Is it waterproof? Splash proof ?
nope
Dear Racing Brick. I have two questions. Where did you get the remote controller that you have in your hands? You are controlling the Lego Technic 42124 Off-road buggy with it. By the way, does it works with other Lego Technic remote controlled sets too, normally controlled by the Lego Technic app on Android devices like smartphones and tablet computers?
You can buy the remote at lego.com, the number is 88010. Without the Powered Up app it only works with the AAA hub, but if you create a control profile for it in the Powered Up app just like I did then you can configure it for any set you prefer. Here's a video about it in action with a previous version of the app, now the configuration can be even more simple - ruclips.net/video/hLbr4si2Qfs/видео.html
Where did you get from
Really nice set.
You can also use the buwizz app, it works with c+, sariel has a video about it.
The BuWizz app still does not have return to center steering support, I know it pretty well thank you :)
I think this whole duck-fart-etc, and Battle Mode with the power-ups is a reference to ReVolt, which was a huge fun back in 1999. ;)
Interesting idea, but the execution of the Battle mode is still a complete failure. You can't drive a car around in real life while trying to "fight" a virtual opponent.
But!
Can u use for example PS4 pad to controll it?
With BrickController2 you can use that one as well
I love how you called out the fart sounds, I got the set for my 11 years old but I think fart sounds are great.
I made a on off diff lock for it
How did you connect Powered up remote to rc buggy?
Same principle like in this video - ruclips.net/video/hLbr4si2Qfs/видео.html
Great review!
I guess you can say that the Control+ app is a little BUGGY
Ba dumm tssss
RacingBrick :)
Nice pun
My birthday is coming up and I asked for this set
Finally a quick buggy, that's great. But 130 bucks, seriously??? Come on Lego!!!
I don't like how Lego is using smart apps to control their technic models. How long will they keep supporting the app? Will the app still work in a few years?
This was raised a million times already. The protocol is open and there are already several 3rd party apps, so even if LEGO discontinues the support in e.g. 10 years there will be other solutions available. You can still play 30 year old video games on your smartphone so there will be a solution for this one as well in the future.
@@RacingBrick Thank you for your answer.
tires good, rims good, all else a bit weird and pointless... what were they thinking?
I am excited for the AMA!
It'll come
@@RacingBrick Nice! Looking forward to it and glad you are doing good!
The battle mode sounds like they are just trying to add a video game to a lego set
Reminds me of Mario Kart lol
Lol
The best way to make any Lego set motorized and remote controllable is simply build a traditional rc chassis of it's size then fit the frame on it. The longer Lego doing it the worst it gets imo after watching all these pre-release reviews on YT.
This is a nice set!!
how much is it
Can you connect a bluetooth controller to this?
Not directly
Fart means speed in Swedish! ;)
And in Norwegian
Can't believe we have a caster angle on original LEGO Technic car!
Maybe the battle mode will function with 2 cars sometime in the future. So you can race against your friends and sabotage them
That would make sense but unfortunately won't happen, there's no way to detect the proximity of any other vehicles