Stefan Molyneux's Fall of Rome - A Response
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- Опубликовано: 29 окт 2016
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Smiling at the laziness of just stealing his thumbnail and writing 'response' on it. Leave me alone, I've got the flu.
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I think "women are to blame for criminals because all criminals were birthed by women" is the WILDEST take I've ever heard
so are men powerful and decisive, or do they actually have zero agency and women are the cause for everything they do? pick one stefan lol
Technically, he says that all criminals were birthed by women who chose to marry assholes. This is a claim supported by
@@timothymclean yup supported by
@@timothymclean Don't worry, I'm sure he has a credible scientific source that assholery is genetically heritable. We just have to be patient that he will provide it, 5 years after the fact.
@@FumbleSquid Maybe the answer was "nothing" all along?
1. Ruled by brothers who were raised by wolves
2. Not ruled by brothers raised by wolves
3. Rome collapses
1. Not at war with Carthage
2. At war with Carthage
3. Rome collapses
Actually, many Romans in their own time believed that not having a worthy opponent to challenge them (like Carthage) was what made the empire weak; many wished that Carthage had never been destroyed.
@@cooperross9495 weren't the parthians a worthy opponent?
By most measures, definitely, but you know how it is--people complaining about societal decline are always trying to come up with reasons for why the past was better. If there's a hole in their argument, they ignore it.
So it's the extermination of the timber wolf in America that's led to this country's decline. I fucking knew it.
"You are descended from heroes"
Stefan, I'm German, my grandfathers literally fought for the Nazis.
Yeeeaaah, that one made me wonder if he has a German audience. Not made up of holocaust deniers. Chances are slim.
They all propably believe in the clean wehrmacht myth anyway
@@laurioho2041 lol
Lol Oo
@@laurioho2041 lmfao true
The nazi phase sucks but if u go further back like waaaaay further back Germany has done really cool things (one of the most important countries in Europe)
You have to love how he makes it a woman's fault for having children with "assholes" bu there is no blame for the "assholes" themselves. Absolutely fascinating.
Stefan just reminds me of so-called "incels".
It is accurate to say that we have some shit people in the world who are that way because their parents were assholes or chose partners poorly.
But ALL genders are capable of both being or ending up with assholes.
And plenty of people who were raised by assholes grow up to be good people, and vice versa.
He talks as though women are deliberately choosing the worst possible partners, and totally discounts the fact that you can be with a person for a long time before their true colours come out.
He also never provides any examples of what a non asshole partner would be like which tells me he doesn't know, or does know but knows he isn't that example so he doesn't bring it up.
It is highly upsetting not just what this guy says but that there are such bitter, deluded, hate filled people in the world.
He looks too old to reform his views but also he is intelligent enough to really be dangerous
Classic misogyny. It’s not the man’s fault for being an abuser. It’s the woman’s fault for being with him.
Mothers play a huge role in the development of the personality
@@bellatordei3440 As do fathers and at some point adults are all responsible for their own actions.
Oh my god it just never stops. "If women chose nice guys, we..."
We?
Buddy, you wouldn't be in there.
I particularly enjoyed the part where Stefan was literally ranting like an asshole about how stupid women are for being attracted to assholes. I feel awful for this fool's poor daughter.
@@erinhaury5773 "It's almost always the same thing either, the woman chose to mate with a bad man OR, for driving a good man away, which is even worse." Translation: "Even when a man chooses to abandon his children, that is ultimately the woman's fault." I can't stand to hear this man talk.
@@GhengisJohn her "fault" insofar she chose to mate with the bad man instead of choosing a good man, not her fault for the kids ending up abandoned. There are many things to nitpick about the video but that part was fairly straightforward
@@Flackon My brother, I don't even see that as straightforward because real life is a lot more complicated than that. But I salute your Ramirez avatar.
@@GhengisJohn Yeah it is quite more complicated but I think the guy here was alluding to how women have the sexual selective power which is true in aggregate (although It likely wasn't true in the times of the patriarchy and certainly not in the Roman Empire)
1. Egyptians offer mummified crocodiles to Sobek
2. Egyptians don’t offer mummified crocodiles to Sobek
3. Egypt collapses
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Hail Sobek!
@@thatbadplayer2243 You might have composed my favourite comment this year, already. Bravo!!
Jelle Hondelink hail Sobek!
All hail Sobek!
''the answer is obvious but political correctness prevents us from talking about it'' is the most ominous answer anyone could give when asked about how to deal with the urban poor
It leads to every possible answer, really.
Like, the answer could be "just start eating them. Literally devour the poor", but it could also be "just behead all landlords and make a public example out of them". 💀
@@floreroafloreril1458the latter has proven itself to work
@@floreroafloreril1458
The latter doesn’t sound like the wrong answer.
He’s a Nazi, so it would definitely be a really bad idea to follow anything he says.
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge the irony of talking about how "political correctness" prevents us from talking?
Im a victim of child abuse and I would not call my mother a monster for marrying my father. She was a victim as well. This man is fucking insane
You don't understand him, if she was not egoistic, she wouldn't Mary him
@@bellatordei3440 not very smart, are you?
@@bellatordei3440 dont forget to wear your helmet
@@marcb.4401 why?
@@hand13932 also the cooking gloves
"That's from his video about Zootopia"
...
WHAT?
Yes. As noted by others, Molyneux is fucking unhinged.
Funny, considering how these types treat furries.
Funny, considering how these types treat furries.
Damn........ We said the exact same thing....... months apart.
Nice
>Woman has baby
>Rome collapses
>Wamen bad
Jimmy Scrambles >Jimmy smart
@Boxcarcifer Ok, and what about communism/Socialism apologisers? They killed more people in a single century than Religion had managed. (Ok yes, less people going back in time, but then... still one century, Vs. 2000 years? I've actually done the reverse of the usual. I've gone from accidentally Marxist, like any and all Lefties, to Right Wing. All I ever selfishly wanted was to be entertained. Commies ruined all the entertainment.
PS. I'm not a /fan/ of Stefan, but I do like Philosophy and I do like to hear his stances on many things. But all the no cos' he's bad, are no better than the Orange Man Bad Brigade.
@@suddenlyfrogs9504 every person that died in a capitalist country is someone who died due to capitalism
@@jomotaku If you believe that, good luck in life.
Seriously people like you are no different to the Religious Puritans who feared technology and 'Mad Scientists', only you all fear the 'Greedy Capitalist'. You all anthropomorphize either Boogeyman so there's something to blame with all the hate in your hearts, provided they're not your immediate Bill payers, because that just makes (The multitude of people I've encountered who are Anti Capitalist, when they mean Anti-Corporatist) them look unbelievably think and selfish, which most Progressives turn out to be. I know, I was one of them. Takes a long, long time to notice how Hippies, Hipsters etc, etc are often really nasty pieces of work. Secular Puritans, again... good luck with that.
@@suddenlyfrogs9504 its funny that u cannot see the irony in me giving u a meme answer to ur meme statement and then instantly making me out to be some indoctrinated individual,
like im not sure maybe ure trying to make fun of me right now but the inability to critically think about a statement and instantly resort to random generalizations seems to me like ure a cardboard cutout rightwinger
I love that “women choosing assholes” is both a great reproductive strategy and the end of the human race for Stefan.
Wait a second.
Holy shit. That logical conclusion was such a fucking shambles that only after reading your comment did I realize how overwhelmingly shit it was
Also it's doubly funny since he's an asshole, himself
So why do women choose assholes?
@@JFRAMEUSA Some women think they can fix an asshole, some women don’t think the man in question is an asshole, some women choose a man that wasn’t an asshole before but became an asshole over time, and so on ad nauseum. Your question is so weird because it could be met with *countless* responses. To reduce a woman’s choice of an asshole partner to reproductive strategism is silly.
No no no, I think women are great, they didn't choose him.
its incredible how this all boils down to a middle aged man applying "nice guys finish last" to the fall of the Rome.
It's incredible how this all boils down to you agreeing with him and disagreeing with him at the same time without being aware it. You know, sort of like the same like a neo-nazi claiming to hate wars brought about by international jewry but at the same time glorifying wars as both noble and heroic. Molyneux is useless. But most of you chimps commenting here are just raging chimps trying to *out-chimp* him and as such you're in no position to point fingers at him.
You know what the irony is? You're unwittingly empowering the likes of him because you're too ignorant to see that your high-school p*ssing contest level retorts are NOT going to stop vile scum like him.
Stefan: "I worked in a daycare"
Have more terrifying words ever been spoken?
Individual Fat1 you should see the sorts of people that work in social services.
“Trump is president”
Gotta get those fresh, ripe, fertile eggs early!
ThatBad Player I don't necessarily think he's good but politicians doing stupid things isn't new whereas I don't expect daycare workers to be ... well...stephan molyneux
@ruslas zubres nothing wrong with a man in daycare, but if said man goes on to say "all bad men came from WOMEN'S VAGINAS, and we need to hold them accountable!".
Idk if I would want my child around said man.
Molyneaux: "Why did Rome fall? Because women won't have sex with me"
Nope. Thats how Sparta fell.
Molyneaux is married and has a daughter
@@Ponera-Sama bet he wished for a son 😒
@@Ponera-Sama I feel for those poor women. I can't imagine the amount of internalized self hatred you need to have to marry a man like that... I hope they're ok.
@@anaestrada6906 And yet he's complaining that women marry assholes. He should be glad, or he'd still be an incel.
The funniest thing about Molyneux's ranting about "women choosing arseholes" is that he thinks he's *not* an arsehole.
If women chose partners based on them being assholes Stefan would have a harem.
It's always like that with guys like these lmao. Complete lack of self-awareness.
So Stefan's sources are:
(1) A work of pop history written by an early-twentieth-century British general, which Stefan shamelessly plagiarised;
(2) An audiobook by a libertarian crank, which Stefan shamelessly plagiarised;
(3) A (probably) legitimate academic article, which Stefan selectively quoted and misunderstood; and
(4) Ancient Roman writers grumbling about "kids these days" as old people have done throughout human history.
Tbf, Stefan's work is a big [CITATION NEEDED] joke. It's amazing, not even a broken clock.
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”
― Socrates
My older family members when feeling nostalgic:
"Back in the day, we would pull pranks on our terrible teachers, run away from homes for a while, we were free, we did what we wanted"
My older family members when they're cranky:
"Back in the day, we respected our elders! I would never in a million years say something like this to a teacher! I LISTENED to my PARENTS because I RESPECTED ThEM!!"
@@ieat10kittens94 they crossed their legs? By Zeus what horror!
(5) he made it the fuck up
(6) his nice guy/incel ramblings
The “what is Stefan talking about” game is my favorite
But if you did not listen to the rant already you'd never be able to guess correctly... he is totally out there... all the time.
@@Ugly_German_Truths e
Pko
Gonna be honest. I just imagine him ranting to little girls about how frozen represents the sexual market place and giggle
I'm ashamed that I could guess accurately despite never having seen any of the mentioned videos.
Willow Wisp how?
"I encourage you all to go watch Stefan video"
Yeah, I'm have to give that a solid no there, chief
XD best username I've seen in a while.
As a wise man once said "Negatory, good buddy."
I feel sick just from the clips. How much weed is this SOB on?!?!?
I’m worried I’d lose a few brain cells watching it
My brain still hurts from his bullshit about Zootopia.
24:00 I noticed hidden in his incel rage speech, he slipped up talking about "assholes" and accidentally dropped "black" in there and tried to change the sentence into "keeping a flame alive" in a vague metaphor. He very nearly revealed in no uncertain terms what his real problem is
That sounded deliberate imo. It sounded intentional and there's a solid pause. Scary stuff
A black guy got his crush?
I heard that too. I wondered what he meant (I can guess) 🙄
And what's that? Because you seem paranoic
@@rodrigodemiguellamminen5244 what's scary about that?
"The most recent republican president... George W. Bush-" felt like being struck in the head like a bowling ball how has it only been 4-ish years
To be fair, grains are "slow carbs" so they take a while to topple empires.
Godamnit :-). Good one.
I recommend the Keto diet for all the up and coming empires out there, that shit will keep your state fit and healthy.
@@toddharig8142 Does it have soy though?
@@moscanaveia Well, seeing as soy turns men into fembois that will just accelerate the degradation.
@@toddharig8142 Femboys or a successful empire? Well, I know which one I'm choosing.
He's against states and authoritarianism yet idolises Rome? LOL
Zena 364 Wait so by his logic the culturally acceptable practice of fucking boys and men in Roman society is “lack of degeneracy”
Zena 364
Agree.
Ainan Kashif
Nice token example. Lol they still do worst in other parts of the world
madison knight\ Decayed knight. Your lack of comprehension of ancient Roman culture isn’t surprising, but yeah actually sexual relationships between older and younger men were commonplace in Rome, and also Athens. That was just the norm. Dude. Seriously. You can’t take what Stefan says as valuable info. He’s an actual, legit white supremacist. Don’t make yourself dumber by falling for his idiocy
Arexis Renoldi
Rome was also able to interstate a multitude of cultures and religions to its nation and culture encompasses in some the greatest architectural feats in the world. Some society’s still allow sexual relations with younger people.
Now I'm just thinking about Diocletian yelling "MY CABBAGES!!!"
yay, I was also picturing him as the cabbage man from avatar
As someone who was raised by a single mother (a fairly young one at that) his comments on it really upset me :/ My biological father left when I was really young so I have no idea what their relationship was like, but what I do know is that she's done her goddamn hardest to raise me well. She's who I'm closest too by far, she's protective as a mother should be, but never overbearing. She's only ever raised her voice at me if she was worried by something I did, and she still makes sure to apologize for it. TL;DR: Single moms are fucking awesome, and I can't believe this human thumb even TRIED to insinuate otherwise
Stefan Molynuts has never known shit from clay about what he talks about. The very pinnacle of a pseudo intellectual arsehole.
Human thumb lol, accurate
Unfair to thumbs, thumbs are strong and necessary for tool use and technological progress, Stephen is none of these things
Stephan is a fuckin pinkie. Just kinda there, weakest of the group, rarely used, and you can live without it quite easily
The problem with this take is that it's more of an exception than a rule. A single mother, usually, has lower income, less time to spend on a child, and generally is not particularly wise since she ended up being a single mom. Now there are exceptions, as there always are, but a majority of single moms are not a better or even an equal option to a full family.
And yes, I was raised by a single mom. It wasn't fun.
It blows my mind that stefan simultaneously puts so much responsibility on women while also claiming that they shouldn't be allowed to have any responsibilities
but if women aren't simultaneously too stupid to be allowed and also responsible for all the most society impacting choices made today then some of the things wrong in my life might be MY fault, and that's unacceptable u.u
This right there has always made me laugh because of the transparent and illogical argument. We are watching the rationalization of a fragile mind.
The same goes his antagonistic opinion on "weak liberal men" or "soy boys" as well, yet he proudly coop the social, moral and scientific of such men.
Blame, not responsibility. Your play on words doesn’t fit
@@feonjun The Left are also all soy boys and weak low t bayta cucks but are also dangerous Antifa thugs that need to be imprisoned.
Stefan: Stop saying your ancestors were evil!
Also Stefan: Evil exists because women have been propagating it genetically for generations!
He means that your male ancestors aren’t evil. Whenever he says anything about society or ancestors or the world, he means men only.
@@kyro8559 even then he asserts that being an asshole is a "good mating strategy," so statistically it's likely both your ancestors were assholes.
@@BaronCemetery that's not statistically likely, that's a fact.
♪♪ *Hello darkness my old friend...* ♪♪
He hasn't said that.
@@aglazeddonut6635 You got a source for those statistics?
I love him going "There only used to be elite universities like Harvard, Oxford and Cambridge."
Dude. My University is older than your freaking country.
Multiple non-elite Dutch universities are even older than his country LOL.
@@TikoVerhelst lol. I even studied at one :D
My high school was 30 years younger than his country
I used to watch Stefan religiously and he was a gateway to further radicalization. I never entertained opposing view points or even took time to deconstruct his arguments. Thank you Shaun for making this video and exposing Stefan for who he is. I’ve said it before, your videos have brought me back to the light and been instrumental in my de-radicalization process, along with going to university and and speaking with very patient professors
Massive props to you for having the intellectual integrity to question your beliefs. I'm glad you found your way out.
welcome back, Goodoldpal :)
Do you support his pro-race realism position?
@Goodoldpal_
Glad to have you back. I missed you
The thought of Stefan only being the 'gateway' to even worse people is terrifying
Notice how he never holds men accountable for any of their actions, but demands that women be held accountable for the actions of those men.
Geary Well he says some men are just evil....so we should simply accept the fact some men are just evil while holding women accountable for everything. Holding one gender to a higher standard is just fucking stupid.
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last I checked society has no problem holding men accountable for their stupid shit...
Explain Trump
Geary
Molyneux in his own words wants to hold women accountable for the actions of men.
Isnt your comment directed at what Molyneux said?
So, what is the other guy barking about?
I sleep soundly at night knowing how many women have out-achieved Stefan Molyneux in every way
By sleeping around with douchebag guys?
@@JFRAMEUSA yes
Among other things. Out achieving him is not hard.
tru dat
@@ohno5559
Don't be jealous because he is smarter than you.
@@JFRAMEUSA is this a bit
Whenever people talk about how family values have gone down and fathers used to be strong and manly and mothers used to only focus on loving their children and loving their husband and everybody always knew what they were doing sound like toddlers describing their parents at preschool.
Like they managed to live a whole ass 60 something years and never understood that things feel different when you're a child. "My daddy was the biggest strongest daddy in the world and he worked the hardest job and my mommy only ever thought about me and never about sex! How come now that I'm an adult parents aren't like that!? >:("
Wow you just really hit the nail on the head. I’ve never been able to put this into words before but you’re 1000% right, that’s exactly what it is.
"The golden age before the decline never existed"
This quote just never stops being relevant, does it?
Stefan has a pretty low opinion of women for a guy who rails against Islam's treatment of women
I sometimes say: The only thing that is greater than some people's sexism, is their racism.
@@riotgrrrl8807 Islam is not a race tho
@@thrawnprotocol9780 True.
But sometimes I'm wondering if race and religion are kind of all mixed together in this issue, meaning what people are actually opposing is not some religion, it's more that that religion is foreign to them.
Like there are many people who can go on an endless rant how Christianity is somehow superior to Islam, totally disregarding the horrible Christian ideologies or what's written in the bible.
More importantly: People who want to exclude Muslims totally ignore that Muslims are themselves actually hurt by this religion and by other Muslims.
So they might say "Islam is bad because.... FGM" but what they won't say is "Let's make sure girls are being saved from FGM, for example by taking in Muslim immigrants who want to leave that society".
So it seems they are against the people who want to flee because of their race, because even when Muslims oppose harmful ideas in Islam and are themselves harmed by them (more than any non muslim), there are still people who want to deny those Muslims refuge or immigration.
That's why I inferred that at least sometimes racism is just hiding behind being against Islam, especially if the criticizing party is religious themselves.
It's like people are using the "look, how bad Islam is, it's harming people and it's evil!" - argument and are just using the Muslim victims of religious fundamentalism to justify their bigotry, without wanting to help them.
And why? Maybe because they're just racist. They can't be genuinely concerned about the harm an ideology does and at the same time deny the victims of that ideology any help.
I'm an atheist by the way.
I hope my answer made sense. I'm not an expert and race seems more like an arbitrary construct to me.
Believe it or not, I'm German and in Germany, we don't really use the word "race" anymore (at least normal people don't...). We talk more about culture or country of origin when we're discussing such topics.
@@thrawnprotocol9780 in the case of Islam it is because people don't like it because it's a brown people religion.
@@riotgrrrl8807 Good comment. One thing tho, FGM isnt islamic. It is a cultural thing. Neither the quran nor any credible hadith mentiones it
Stefan Molyneux sounds like a student trying to wing a presentation he clearly didn't prepare
Also like a student, he also plagiarized an author and passed it off as his own idea.
Holy shit, I just posted a nearly identical comment to this before I saw yours...
This is it. I couldn't figure out what he was trying to communicate because it was almost a stream-of-consciousness type speech.
He did put words on some slides, though...
So I have been put in the spot where an angry man starts loudly taking out his personal frustrations with my gender out on me more than once, and it’s horrifying every time. Especially when I’m not great at confrontation and I’ve misplaced my quick witted friends.
So with the tone and conviction he had behind his “women perpetuate assholes by continuing to choose assholes” argument, I was actually starting to feel kind that sick panicky feeling of
“Oh god, I don’t know how to respond to this and I’m genuinely scared of how this is going to go” when you finally cut in to dryly summarize his point before waiving it off and that got the biggest belly laugh from me.
Thank you for your calm, methodical approach. I watch your videos as much for the informational content as I do for the calm dry wit that you make them with.
Shaun is an absolute treasure, I recommend him to everyone
He make women sound so transactional. He’s not used to being around actual people, or having friends, is he?
There are women like that in the world but they are the soulless female version of men like him. Then those men complain about being taken to court and have all their money taken away... they're the type of people who believe relationships are about an exchange of sex for money. Why wouldn't a woman who is the equivalent type of rotten person take her crappy husband she's sick of to court to extract the remaining money from him? After all, these people don't believe in love or compassion.
I mostly financially supported my ex for over a decade whilst he got more and more abusive. When I left I lost almost everything. It was better to just get out of there and forget about objects. I miss those things but it wasn't worth having further contact with someone trying to gaslight me into thinking his abuse was him "looking after me". When these men talk about how all women only care about $$$ and sit around planning divorce and bankrupting their ex husbands I know what ilk of women they're talking about.... it isn't most women.
My mom married a well-educated, hardworking, intelligent, kind man, who it turns out didn't have very much clue how to raise a child. It doesn't take an asshole to make a bad parent.
Yeah my dad passed away, isn’t my mom such a cunt for marrying someone who died?
@@connorbranscombe6819 she is if she married him after his death ;)
also: being an asshole isn't inheritable let alone genetic. there is no "asshole gene" that they're willingly passing on or anything.
the reason people are abusive for example does not (contrary to popular belief) seem to correlate with having abusive parents. (idk about the source for that but i saw it in a book called "why does he do that?" in case you want to look for it. ik it's not enough but hey). though that connection does grow far stronger in the cases of particularly violent offenders.
whereas stefan seems to think that if every woman married a "nice guy" that abuse would disappear.
Right. Parenting is a skill not everyone has. But it should be part of our education. Lack of education isn't excuse why we didnt educate in this or other field we should.
My mom's marriage to my dad was an arranged marriage by their fathers in the fundamentalist community I grew up in. It must have been her fault for agreeing to marry a husband who was chosen for her by other men.
When Stephan Molineux talks about women he sounds like a guy whose trying to scientifically understand why the pretty girl at the bar shot him down
Nah
Science gives objectivity.
Objectivity gives distance.
Distance protects his ego.
And utterly failing to understand the real reasons. He treats women badly, therefore they don't like him.
I used to say that about Tucker Carlson as well.
He is just a grown up Incel, that’s all
Romney: "these people believe they are entitled to health-care, to food, to housing..."
me: ".... yes... yes they are..."
Mitt Romney: Damn those people! Not wanting to be sick, starving, and homeless! How selfish!
Regarding the grain dole; I can't fathom the mental hoops one must jump through to acknowledge that the influx of slavery caused a job shortage for farmers, and *still somehow* blame the welfare program enacted to combat a potential revolt as the reason for an economic crash and NOT the slave trade that started it all to begin with.
"Women choose ASSholes over NICE guys, like ME! I'M a nice GUY! Can't you TELL. by the way I randomly EMPHASIZE. random. WORDS?"
He worked at a daycare? The most disturbing thing I learned from all this.
Daycare if pretty alpha, most well know tribal leaders and champions worked at daycare
@[A]ddiction he has a daughter, my heart shakes
I really hope he was just the janitor.
In the one about The Force Awakens, he said he has a daughter - that's truly disturbing & worrying...
He reminds me of the old music teacher at the school i used to work at
He traumatized kids every day and we couldn't do anything to get rid of him
Stefan: “Don’t make babies with assholes!”
Women: “lol ok.”
Stefan: “No wait! Rome!”
I laughed a lot.
the "lol ok" is never going to get old
Sing with Stefan:
4:45 there's no need to feel down
I said, 4:45, pick yourself off the ground
I said, 4:45, 'cause you're in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy
Thank you, that made me laugh
OMG😂
"I worked in a daycare" - Stefan Molyneux
Those poor kids.
Someone find those kids and give them mental help.
I froze in horror at that line.
As a cleaner.
Facts
Hopefully they weren't shown Frozen with him
Stefan: I used to work at a daycare.
Stefan: Most people who worked at daycares aren't valuable to society.
That's called providing evidence for your claims.
This was actually a good one :) But still most means many but not all. You may check in dictionary if you dont believe.
By “most” I guess he meant everyone except him. Like most stupid assholes, he can only see himself as an exception, because otherwise he might have to gain some self-awareness
@@ebrelus7687 seriously troll harder.
Funny thing is, the labor market in my country is currently being severely limited because there aren't enough people working in daycares, making parents unable to work full time. Turns out they're pretty valuable after all huh
If your empire falls at the slightest instance of internal criticism, it's probably not an empire that deserves to be an empire.
"Women only choose a holes."
So how many women have been fawning over you, Stefan?
Have to admit, during his long diatribe about abuse and criminalistics, I did smirk when he said 'Politicians'.
Stefan watches Winnie-the-Pooh...
"Men need to secure Women for their tribe!"
I could see him prison style raping that bear.
@@willdenham
How dare you create such imagery?!
@@apophis7712 I know, reading again today I surprised myself. It's a little too much, and Eyore, Piglet and Tigger would have to watch. Hell he'd probably go after Christopher Robin next, just out of blood lust, and to show them who's runnin' shit now.
Neo Narcoleptic - Quite possibly my favorite comment in this whole comment section. I raise a glass of Nightmare Fuel to you.
Our white women are mixing
Anti-SJWs: Feminists read WAYY too much into things
Also anti-SJWs: **make hours worth of videos about "the Alpha male" or other tribal/sexual-based misogyny whenever they watch a Disney movie**
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When middle easter shitholes literally live word by word of their ideology; traditional? ✓
Misogynistic? ✓
Hyper-Nationalistic? ✓
Ethno-states? ✓
Homophobia? ✓
So why not convert to islam, learn arabic and fuck off to one of these countries hell surely like it
@@cossaizy6309 nO tHeY AWe nOT kWistIan
@@saladcaesar7716 lebanon is christian enough, plus islam is basically christianity 2.0
@@cossaizy6309 However they also hate brown people. So the migration option is out.
@@kazaddum2448 well is it too late to tell you most middle easterners are just tanned, cause you know, its fucking hot down there
I'm glad there are people making videos debunking this area of conspiracy theory, really messed up my mental health getting exposed to this type of thought as a young girl
Wish I didn't relate, but I do. Full on had existential crises thinking I would peak at 19 and society wouldn't value me if I wasn't fertile, like what the actual f
Stephan mulineux is the epitome of
"Tell me woman won't have sex with you without telling me woman won't have sex with you"
He has a wife and daughter 😬
@@spinecho609 how does he sound like this then; he's not even involuntarily celibate, just that much of misogynist
"The most recent Republican President, George W. Bush..."
ah, what a time.
You almost miss it, don't you. ^_^
I was thinking this exact thing when that came up. ah, the good old days
iu dont care about the money guys. i will never vote for a king or a queen for the us president. wrex supporters.
Only a month after this until that changed, what a time indeed
I had to quadruple take when i heard that
Roman Empire: economically based on slavery.
Molyneux : Well that's freedom.
Freedom to have someone else solve your problems
The concept of economics hadn't been invented yet.
@MustafSeye
me: the earth has been geologically active for £4,000,000,000 years
you: uh, no it hasn't, geology hadn't been invented yet.
@@alexscriabin 4,000,000,000... Pounds? And I didn't mention geology.
@@alexscriabin why did you use the euro symbol?
Stefan has the charisma of a guy who leads team building exercises at a corporate retreat
I haven’t heard this line before, but it’s really good
@@waytoobiasedWoah woah woah, not copypasta. Original work ™️
alright team were going to go around the circle and tell the room 1 fun fact about ourselves and our favorite factor in romes downfall
The last bit about being descended from heroes who fought for freedoms had me thinking "yea, I was, but not the ones you think, Stefan."
For context my Great Grandad was part of the union strikes when Thatcher closed the mines. I look up to him as a hero of the working class, even though he did not succeed. He fought for his class and his kind. I'm certain that he wasn't the first union member in my family either, and I can safely tell you he's not the last.
28:30 The apparent fact that Molyneux once worked in a daycare is probably the most terrifying thing he's said.
Lol true.
Yeahh. I bet those kids know that they are descended from heroes, though.
somed214 Molyneaux lies about his past a lot, he's stated that he worked in a lot of careers
I thought he said he's BEEN in daycares, not he's WORKED in daycares.
He probably got inspired by the Ayn Rand School for Tots.
When Molyneux began saying "Young men...", I was braced for the world's worst cover of "YMCA", and I wasn't disappointed.
deutschbagnl 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Young men... we need a Western society.
I said, young men... you can put your mind at ease.
I said, young men... we're gonna make a traditional ethno state
And I say women... won't... give... me... a date...
ba, da, ba, da... it's fun to stay at the ole' KKK! the ole' KKK...
@@ryanotte6737 Eeeeeeeehhhhhhh, needs work.
Artie Rupinen How about this?
Young man... we need a western regime
i said young man... our world just needs to be cleaned
i said young man... put blame on minorities
We can end this marxist grand plan
It’s fun to bully the L-E-F-T
It’s fun to bully the L-E-F-T
@@grantcambron3597 hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Thanks for making me laugh
I'm a historian and those snippets are causing me actual pain. Last time I've seen such warped worldview it was the rambling of middle-school aged children.
I just had the thought "I've never felt so hated by someone I've never met" and realized how privileged I am
"Your ancestors fought hard to extend your freedoms"
my grandpas were both nazi paratroopers
Those are exactly the sorts of ancestors he most wants to idolize.
Ouch.
Oof
That's a real oopsie doodle right there, chief.
F
Lmao he picked a point in history where slavery was rampant as the happiest overall time for the human race. Yeah, except for all the SLAVES
Yeah but you see it's very clever, if you just don't consider slaves human, hey presto everyone's happy
@Sigurd Blergh Blergh if you work really well as a slave, they might let you retire before you die.
@@j.kaimori3848 Yay! that's so much better
Slaves don't count as people though, everyone knows that.
Has there ever been a time without slavery?
Gladiators rarely died in combat in the coliseum. They were very expensive to train, feed, equip etc. They were like wrestlers today. Sometimes there were battle to death but they were not very popular and very expensive for the organisators
wow that rant about "holding women accountable" for "choosing assholes" was... 100% fucking insane
27:35 Karen took the kids, half my money and the western half of the Roman empire. It all makes sense
This is it. This is the best comment
Don't worry, man. She took the half that's gonna be worthless real quick. Trust me, your half will last much longer.
Stefan's default tone has a strong, unending aura of "GOTCHA!" like he thinks he's throwing down some sick, unpopular truths and refuses to be silenced, and honestly that's like the third most insufferable part of him, besides the sexism and racism.
Succinctly stated. Bravo. Or Brava.
@BLAIR M Schirmer Watch the video.
You summed him up perfectly
Insufferable is the exact word I was thinking of even before I read your comment. It's the correct word for this awful man
@BLAIR M Schirmer Do you actually need people to literally say "I hate women" to know they're sexist? Are you that socially incompetent?
"Their children are forced to grow up POOR and fatherless."
Me: *A middle class daughter of a single mother whose friend's full two-parent household had to move because they couldn't afford to keep living in our neighborhood.*
You aren't black right?
Ever heard about exception proves the rule?
We generalise. BTW did you mother get benefits 7 state help? How much did she earn herself? :P
@@ebrelus7687 "Exception proves the rule" is one of the laziest and more stupid idoms ever created. Tbh.
I mean, on average a family with a singular income will have less money than a family with two incomes, regardless of anecdotal evidence 🤷
Hearing Shaun say "Says" is an entire row on my hierarchy of needs.
Why does so much of the alt-right boil down to "women won't bang me and that's evil!"
@Ace Saylor Well the first one is true actually
@Ace Saylor incel detected!
@Ace Saylor and that is usually a good thing.
@Ace Saylor sure it is, you should have grown out of it by the time you are old enough to vote.
@Ace Saylor actually, yes, you should have grown out of it by now
The "Rationals" always tell me that SJW's are the sensitive ones that insert their ideology into everything like movies and video games.
But then there's Stefan who inserts his views on evolutionary tribal warfare into fucking Zootopia 3:31
20shitzngiggles It's only bad when the left does it!... Or something like that.
The left is held to a higher standard than the right.
20shitzngiggles Not to mention his patronizing and blatantly sexist mommy issues being forced into his analysis of fucking Star Wars.
20shitzngiggles yes, because films never try to give a message
That wasn't even the worst thing he used in that video. IIRC he devolved into this argument about World War 1 and white feathers. It went on for about 5 minutes before he brought up Zootopia again.
At one stage Stefan says that taxes were too high because of the grain dole but later he says that Romans only had to work for 2 days a year to cover their taxes. As Shaun points out, Stefan doesn’t even realises when he contradicts himself.
Honestly, I laughed hard when he talked about the "nice guys vs assholes" thing without a HINT of irony.
The failure of the most basic introspection here is... incredible.
I think the most disturbing thing in this video is the idea that Stephan Molyneux worked at at daycare! The idea of him spewing his women hating nonsense at toddlers gives me the shivers
What should scare you more is that he probably didn't, and appears normal in his everyday life. That's the problem with hateful ideology - it takes root wherever it can, sometimes in the unlikely, friendly guy. I've had people who seemed decent but revealed very shitty beliefs later on, and were probably equally surprised I was an "SJW".
jbaz77777 if you want to know who rules over you, find out who you cannot criticise. Second wave feminism fuck the west but if you tell anyone you will get slaughtered and yet feminism is a minority ideology but somehow ingrained it’s self in to everybody’s way of thinking! A little like cancer.
@@djdusted6485 oh hey, found the real cancer.
jbaz77777 Found the incel.
@Long duk dong Five seconds after some dingus thought of the term. "You want social justice, and I think this is a bad thing."
If women started to choose only "nice" guys, Stefan definitely wouldn't be one of them...
PandinusRex If women chose only "nice" guys, Stefan would complain that male masculinity is being replaced by effeminate degenerating weakling feminists.
Even then, sometimes "nice" guys can turn out to actually be possessive A-holes. A good example is Titan from Megamind.
@@aria5614 I fucking love your audacity to use Titan from Megamind as an example of anything
PandinusRex, Good point.
No, he would, but only because you used quotation marks
Remember when this came out and Shaun said "Imagine...President Trump comes to office" and it was a joke...?
“Hold women accountable for choosing assholes.” How about hold assholes accountable for being assholes so the women don’t have any to choose from?
why go for simpler solution, when you can blame women 🤷🏻
Both are wrong tbh
Imagine someone robs Stephan’s house, and we all just respond to him, “why’d you pick a house that could be robbed? You’re causing the decline of western civilization!”
"stefan molyneux's fall of rome" sounds like the title of a really complicated computer game.
Tom Clancy’s Why Won’t You Date Me Sarah
@@AppendixMIA Based on "Tommy Wiseau's You're tearing me apart, Lisa!"
Sid Meier's We Live In A Society IV
I wish..
@Ian Smith Yeah, I confused him with Peter Molyneux at first ...
this guy has a wife and a daughter... i feel so sorry for them both
@Luck Genuine Lightning literally the same asshole argument he made dude cmon
23:45
Why didn't Stefan say: "Men should stop being assholes" Hmm
“Minimum-wage people” has got to be one of the most dehumanizing expressions ever.
It's another side of the "Welfare Queen" label
Oh yeah, it's not like the word "people" has anything to do with humanity. Grouping people always inevitably involves some degree of impersonalization.
@@felixmoore6781 He said that they have the least amount of value in all of society implying that how much money and wealth you have determons (not native English sorry) how much you are worth as a person.
That whole bit about descendants of “pilgrim fathers” in New York bit at 21:48 pisses me off so much. Mostly because I am actually descended from some of the first founders of New York (back when it was New Amsterdam) and hearing someone just straight up pretend my ancestors were pilgrims is just....so annoying? They were Dutch, Stefan!! They were from the Netherlands! I know Europe is just one homogenous hodgepodge to you but it sure as hell wasnt to the people of New Netherland.
@Robert Bonneau Wouldn't have happen if they drank Sailor Moon instead !
So you speak Dutch? If not, you should try learning Nederlandisch
Go back to Europe, colonizer
But the dutch took some of those areas from Sweden!
So the Dutch weren't religious?
How did you manage to watch so much of him for this? Every time he speaks I feel my blood pressure rising and it's only your peaceful interjections that prevented me having a heart attack...
I was raised by a single mum. My dad vanished when I was 9 and never paid a penny. Which is apparently all my mum's fault for marrying an arsehole, but not my dad's fault for actually being an arsehole?
And I'm a single mum, who has an amicable relationship with my ex and we ensure our son is supported financially and emotionally by us both. To whom would this guy give the credit? Me for choosing a decent father for my child (even though it didn't work out for the marriage) or my ex for being a decent father?
I'm guessing my ex would get the credit, but I would still get some blame.
It's as if Stefan doesnt know people have many faces that change depending on the person! Obviously a dude is an asshole since the start!
It's always so satisfying when the ranting lunatic finally says it's all because women won't date him. It's like playing bingo.
Blankout when they go on a rampage.
@Youcef B I agree with it being the alt right, but c'mon, lumping in gamers with that. Usually it's the conservatives who are against video games.
I dont get why anybody likes him. I found him boring and long winded like a class you could fall asleep in, long before I saw excerpts of his that were problematic.
10:30 on, Shaun you miss a really golden opportunity here. Most of the urban poor in Rome actually HAD jobs- they worked in cottage industries, manufacturies for the Army (making shields, armour, weapons- typically on an industrial scsle), in the ports, as sailors, as chefs for the rich, cleaning and maintaining infrastructure, as watchmen keeping the streets safe, in early factories (such as in the perfume industry of the Late Empire- which started to approach industrial scale and, a long with early machinery, might have led to an Industrial Revolution if the Western Empire had lasted a few centuries longer) etc. In short, they were NOT unemployed- but simply didn't make enough money in their jobs to make ends meet- partly due to the rich extracting heavy rents from them and the workshops they worked for, partly due to the relative lack of technological sophistication of Roman industry compared to today (although it was far more advanced than most of the world for centuries to come). In short, these were mostly WORKING POOR, not unemployed- although much like today, Roman writers choose to focus most on the unemployed...
"Darn Plebs. Getvs a jobvs!"
Could u give me a reference or a book that talk about roman mass industry ?
Are you saying that some people are working but don't pay taxes because their surplus value is being extracted by property owners? That's preposterous!
@@raphaelmt1706 that's sarcasm, right? (Seems like it, but on the internet can never be sure...)
Basically, yes. The landowners in Rome owed all their rental income from tenements for the poor to the value those workers produced in their various jobs. A worker's value (the value of what they produce) doesn't become less just because, through inequalities of social and economic power, they are paid less. Rome had a massive class or impoverished urban menial laborers who kept the workshops and proto-factories of the city running.
@@Supadubya XD of course it's sarcasm
“You are descended from heroes” uhhhhhh my great-great-grandpa was a slave owner. Spin that one.
Shaun - thanks for your efforts mate, I have been binge-watching your videos and have shared many with friends and frenemies - you are the peer review channel of the fake academics of youtube - it is well needed.
Then report said yt-channel?
Seriously, if someone is that toxic AND has a channel on a plattform
with a flag-option, why not?
@@nenmaster5218 excuse me?
1. Hamilton hasn't been written yet
2. Hamilton becomes a wild success
3. Alabama places higher restrictions on abortions
Coincidence? If I say it's not with a calm, smart-sounding tone, it's not
Shaun comments sections are so witty they're *always* worth a look.
I love how Stefan Molyneux just berates his own mother constantly.
he really needs some form of counselling he’s been projecting his mommy issues for way too many years lmao
It's clearly her fault for giving birth to an asshole. Apparently 🤷♂️
being an Italian, grown and educated by a public educational system that provides young students with basic understanding of roman history even at lower ages - I'm quite triggered at the way Stefan Molyneux is pronouncing Augustus
A-oo-goos-toos
All I can think of is "Augustus Goop" from Willy Wonka
How did he think his source was in any way accurate or useful? How do you read "well poor people can go to university now and that's the end of civilisation" and "women working as clerks and lead to foreign invasions" and think it's great historical literature?
The "women only date assholes" rant was head-scratching for me. In fact, that view in general baffles me, because the people behind it so rarely define what they mean by assholes and their opposite.
For example, I would define Stefan Molyneux, who doesn't read or understand his sources, and generally blames women for the complex and varied instances of child abuse, as an asshole, but I doubt he would agree with that definition.
Also is assholery genetic? I don't know.
women generally lack the ability to differentiate between confidence in a man and mistreatment from a man....thus the problem persists
Anna Olson he also basically implies that the only reason a relationship could end is if one of the people involved is a bad person, which is a massively simplified view of relationships.
Asshole = anyone a woman chooses over Stefan.
Also - and I'm just guessing - it sounds like Stefan really hates his mom & dad? Maybe his dad was totally a legit, abusive asshole. Shit is Freudian as all fuck.
Anna Olson If I could guess (and that's if they're being serious about it), it's reviving old arguments for eugenics. At the turn of the century, many intellectuals were supportive of eugenics to purify the bloodlines. At worst, it was the Nazis, but I doubt he's going that far. The "liberal" form of eugenics believed that criminality was genetic, so the belief was sterilizing habitual criminals would bring the crime rate down.
Historians: Roman hegemony was a really interesting time in history which we can study to understand ancient civilisation, military strategy, politics, philosophy, historiography, engineering, social structures, empire building and collapse - its such a vast subject that historians have been studying since ancient times and will be studying far into the future.
Molyneaux: Women are bad.
Historians: huh?
How the hell do you get women being bad from the subject of the fall of the Roman Empire? If I were to offhandedly compare it to anything, I'd compare it to the fall of the Ancien Regime with its progressively distant aristocrats (and even that's not a great comparison).
that's a question you should put to molyneaux the faux intellectual.
the ancien regime aristos couldnt see the wood for the trees, whether male or female, so i would have the same issue with that argument too.
Though the AR & subsequent revolution was fascinating, so i'd be happy for any excuse to read into it again, just not a baseless argument that 'it's women's fault'.
@@rednaxelA11 I didn't mean that the French Revolution was the fault of women either, just that the fall of the Ancien Regime is more comparable to the fall of Roman Empire (which is a stretch, I admit). Apologies if that wasn't clear.
BTW, Molyneaux is also a plagiarist in his Rome video.
There’s a textbook literally called “The Fall of Rome”
I read it years ago, and while I never finished the short text due to college comin through, it was a solid intro to how they actually fell.
I doubt you’ll see this. But check the book out! You said you loved Rome!
Stefan: I worked in a daycare
Everyone watching this video: What, no
Seems like this stefan guy belongs on r/niceguys
He's not only a client, he's the Nice Guy™ President
As a Classical Civilizations major, I was physically in pain every time the bald man spoke
Brienne Kennedy I have been scrolling through a shit ton of these comments, and this was the only one to make me Actualy laugh out loud
Hahahaha
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that the full two hour video is basically a really long confession of how stephan has made every woman he meets dryer than sahara.
as soon as someone uses the phrase "sexual market place" you should stop listening to them