You weren't joking. I checked their site, you can buy one of their keyboards from an auction OR comission one starting at US$ 2100 and going up to 3800 +800 for COATING . And they only make ten-key-less keyboards. I have no doubt they're very well made but at some point long before this you stop paying for added quality and are just paying for the sake of paying.
@@dewdop Honestly, with this board... it's understandable. This is low volume production of high-end components. Everything's made of metal, even the case. No expense was spared, it's a completely faithful reproduction of the original.
I have a small stack of old-ish IBM SK-8811, they're rubber dome but I like them. People got them for me as Christmas gifts when my last one finally failed.
Fun fact, engineers (civil) still use dot matrix because they often have to print out huge plan drawings. With no need for color the dot matrix still work fine.
Back in the late 80s I built dozens of XT clone machines accompanied by reproductions of the 84-key Model F (the one with the two rows of function keys along the side -- to match a template that shipped with WordPerfect at the time). Those all ran DR-DOS.
@@brainandforce the bigger keyboard looks nice, but got used to my laptop keyboard to where i don’t see need for number pad, nav cluster (other than screen shot and arrows) and F keys 90% of the time. So i ended up just getting a cheap tkl layout when i did get mechanical keyboard. I still type faster on laptop, but it is partly do to my weird way of typing. It’s weird to hit keys below home row with fingers so i ended up using my thumb. However, tall keys (which all mech boards have compared to a laptop) get in the way of using thumb for those keys.
Alps are good , but dam they age so badly ! I have a few NIB dell AT101s that i have opened up every switch and removed the tactile leaf, one of them i even put in an SGI case and used the SGI caps ! Mmmm so awesome! My first real keyboard after the razer blackwidow junk was an nortgate omnikey ultra T, i have a NEXT keyboard ( complicated black alps are so much better than the later ones) and some apple AEK1 and 2s ( they for some reason have not aged so badly) and i have TWO green alps zenith keyboards !
IBM keyboards seem more James May, if not a typewriter. Hammond would have a TKL RGB monstrosity. Clarkson would have something from V-tech in pastel plastic.
If you have ever visited the channel @UCD0y51PJfvkZNe3y3FR5riw, he does complete reviews, science, history, tear downs, repairs, and how to's with keyboards. We are talking some keyboards that are older than some of the pornstars you rub one off to too. I can see Chyrosran22 having a field day with this new board. He is brutal with new expensive boards. Trust me, if you want a full history education on all keyboards, go to his channel! My two main boards I use are a Beige Dell AT101 "Bigfoot" with the Alp Switches and the Unicomp "Battleship" 122 Keys (Black chassis - grey keys) Bucklespring. I just find the older boards a more enjoyable typing experience then current flashy rgb stuff.
I submit that the dot matrix shipping manifest is conclusive proof that this is just unnecessary nostalgia. Also: keys directly above the arrow keys. BURN IT.
Nerd ASMR Porn- I will never understand that I MUCH prefer a mushy membrane kb. My fingers are thin and weak cuz I have a nerve disability though so mechanical kbs are my nemesis (I tend to either not push the key hard enough or because of bad nerve endings hold keys down for too long resulting in 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA').
I was so close to buy one! The one reason i did not is the combined arrows/numpad. I could live without numpad but rather not, i can not live without arrows and arrows should have free space around them. Since i use the arrow keys often and 90% of the time i do rest 1-2 fingers over the left/right arrow key so no free space there no go sadly.
I have an IBM Model M keyboard that was made the day before I was born and as you're reading this message, be aware that it was typed out using a Unicomp Model M.
Trust me you really don't need adjustavle feets on this one.. or at least the tall one of the original look. You're right thst the lack of function key is an annoyance though. My only problem with mine but it make up for it on all the other aspects. That fucking keyfeel wow
To me, these are not model F at this point... I don't see the link... on model F you had all sorts of oddities on the board, especially on the right side all around the number pard... and alos you had both on left and right side special large keys that were leader-less and shaped so you had to hit them at the center... all that stuff is not on their geek toys... so how can we call that model F?
I remember the day I switch from my old IBM keyboard into the newer membrane keyboard, I just complain around everything, they just suck so badly... Took me a life-time to get my first mechanical and dame they are so good, even cleaning is so easy (corsair K63), mine is way more silence than the IBM (note).
Now Wendell will be up all night long typing pangrams on his new toy, making the quick brown fox jump over the lazy dog again and again until the Spinx of black quartz finally agrees to judge his vow...
Well I just got mine in and oh man do I love it! I opted for the "classic" style F77 in industrial grey and the first thing I noticed: Its HEAVY. Apparently its 8.3lbs. You might not think thats a big deal since its your desk holding that weight, not you. - till you want to adjust how your sitting and try to move the keyboard. This thing don't wanna move. It really does feel like an old a piece of industrial equipment. The keys are noticeably lighter, and the clicking they make sounds different, but it still has that bucking spring feel to everything. Which is great that is exactly what I wanted because I personally just don't like Cherry MX and the MX Like key switches. Something about them feels... artificial? That the tactile "bump" and "click" aren't part of the actuating mechanism at all - because they aren't they are tacked on.
I swear, I have never seen Wendell ever being a happy little fangirl like this before. Too bad the price is premium, especially with shipping overseas :
Now time for beamspring keyboard! In all seriousness I have my model m in the closet the key feel is great but non-split keyboards make my shoulders slump and get uncomfortable. Now I'm using ErgoCompressed with Box Jade keyswitches and MDA keycap profile. Running QMK firmware so all the customisability I can imagine. I just can't go back to stagger single piece keyboards as my daily driver. I like buckling springs but other benefits far outweigh the difference in feel for me.
Got a cheap membrane keyboard that came with pc. Still working 8 years later. A few keys have gotten a little sticky feeling, so it might have dust inside, but not sure if its meant to be opened. I’d expect an expensive keyboard to last well past a decade with rough heavy typing. But i guess it ends up being like cloth, where people get new stuff when see something they like and replace older stuff.
"I feel like you wouldn't like that if it wasn't so obscure" - so what who cares? Humans value things for more than just their pure utilitarianness, and that's a good thing, everything would be boring if we picked things based purely on practical value. Something looking aesthetically appealing has just the same implications as liking something that's obscure. The cultural significance, who uses/used it, how popular/obsucre it is, how old/new it is, whether it has properties that nothing else has (even if those properties aren't 'better'), and overall just the emotional feeling you get from objects, are all important factors in deciding what things you want/like. Unless we're talking about something that *has* to be super utlitarian like a satellite that needs to be small, lightweight and functional, then all of these things are very important factors to us as humans. I think it's part of the same part of us that leads to us creating art. I think it's something we need and almost as strong if not stronger than other base desires like sex or social acceptance. If we built the buildings in cities to be purely practical in their design it would have an extremely negative impact on the mental health of the people there (this has actually been studied with buildings). It's absolutely everywhere and is so deeply entrenched in us that even businesses do it when there's no or even a negative profit from it. It's why I love my 122 key Model M made by IBM and try to get other people interested in it, but then at the same time I actually dislike the Unicomp versions. Unicomp just bought the patent and machinery from IBM and the modern ones they build are identical to the original IBM ones, except they're newer and have a Unicomp logo. Despite being identical I feel completely differently about each one, and even typing on a Unicomp doesn't feel as good to me as the IBM, despite the fact that the pure physical sensation is the same. Had Unicomp done what has been done in this video and redesined it then I'm sure I'd really like them, but the lack of a history, lack of age of the keyboards, and the total unoriginality behind the company now building them all have an impact on if I actually like the keyboard, as it does with most people (and if not wih keyboard, definitely with other things in your life), because we're humans not robots. It's also why on r mechanicalkeyboards on reddit you see incredibly similar looking keyboards, but people have such wildly different feelings about them.
Brings back 4 and 5 grad computer lab the memory's ahhh spending the afternoon seaking in games of Jordan vs Bird or good ole Oregon Trail when the teacher had to go take a call in the office I miss being a kid sometime :(
Correction: The original IBM Model F was released in 1982, and designed to be less expensive to manufacture, and have lower keyboard height, than its beamspring predecessors (e.g. 5251 and 3278). Model M, in turn was released in 1985, intended to be "as good as" the Model F, but even less expensive to manufacture. In terms of quality of feel, beamsprings [keyboard nirvana] > Model F > Model M > every other keyboard ever manufactured.
Wendell, you're not alone! I started out typing on an Atari 1200XL. Out of the entire lineup and vs. C64 and Apple, it had the nicest keyboard. I always missed the feel of it. For years I wandered the abyss that is domed keyboards, hating every minute of using them. Then, I finally bought a keyboard with some Cherry MX Browns... Even though the Atari was not the same switch at all, it had much the same feel... It's nice to have a quality keyboard that you know will last more than a couple of years as long as you take care of it, and every now and then you DO have to buy yourself something nice to remind you why you work in the first place.
I don't really understand keyboard snobbism, I am around computers for 27 years and work daily on a keyboard 10-12 hours for at least 15 years. I had all kinds of keyboards, including model M and model F. They're fine, whatever, can't really tell any difference between them and chinese repro-switch mechanical keyboards. Still ended up using K120 from logitech cheapo daily for nearly 10 years because I got 5 of them at a discount years ago and it doesn't seem I'll burn through them anytime soon. But seeing Wendell's nerdgasms over trivial matters is always worth watching the video.
Sounds like you're having fun there. Do you think that you'll 'switch' to it, or will it be more of an alternative / on a secondary computer? Interesting to know that I could always wire a solenoid up to my keyboard with MX Greens, if it's not offensive enough :-p
That is a damn fine collection of keyboards! And here's me using some horrible OEM HP rubber domed slab of plastic, I really need to treat myself. store.level1techs.com...?
Okay, I had to get my 1995 Model M out of the closet and caress it for a while. Mine is PS/2 and has a hole in the back for a speaker. I think it came from an RS/6000.
I would've considered this keyboard more if they had a full 104 key or 122 key layout. For me, if I'm gonna drop several hundred dollars on a keyboard, I better get at least 100 keys.
all well and good but for writing 100 pages a day I prefer my Logitech Illuminated keyboard. works 3 times faster than these things. all these decadent luxury keyboards are for people who don't actually write a lot.
"Engineered to survive the nuclear holocaust" Yeah unless you live in a New England swamp like me where no membrane is safe from the relentless humidity. They put so much effort into protecting the membrane from spillage though, as it is the only achilles heel.
I can't afford a good mechanical keyboard right now and i really don't want to buy a crappy one and ruin my first experience with them, so i'll wait and save up some money. German layout mechanical keyboards are really hard to find!
For all of those Model M lunatics out there, back when I was working as a Janitor at a Education Center on USMC Camp Lejeune, (roughly 2011) I was made to clean out a storage room filled 10 ft tall by 4ft by 4 ft full of 1980's IBM Computers still in the box, all with Model M keyboards in them. When I say "clean it out" I mean everything in that room was covered in mold from hurricane damage and was told to throw it all in the dumpster. At least 30 unused model M's, trashed.
Ironically, they probably all worked fine. I pulled one out of a dumpster full of water. Aside from taking it apart for a deep scrub, it works. It worked before I cleaned it even, I just didn't want to touch it.
@@6mtzhp55 oh I have no doubt they still worked, these were full system boxes in the original packaging, with the Original packing tape still on the boxes! Completely untouched IBM Computers from the 80's!
The plastic looks cheap (the keys have gone shiny) - I dunno thye lingo (double shot PBT?) but can anyone clarify if I'm right in my initial observation?
"First, i will show you my Model M collection"
So that's where all the model M keyboards went
„I will show you my Model M collection = nerdy version of:“ Can i come up for a cup of coffee“ ;-)
This dude is more touched than me. I thought I was bad with 5 Model Ms ...
I have 4 of them.
Wendell rocking jorts while juggling multiple Model M's and trying not to giggle like a small child is basically how I'm trying to be in life
Lmfao
If you can juggle multiple Model M's you can handle anything life has to chuck at you ;).
full man child mode
What year is 1990-switch exactly? 4:11
1996 :D
"Nobody uses dot-matrix printers."
Try renting a car from Avis :) All of the offices use dot matrix. #TheOriginalBrrrrrrt
I know some medical facilities that use them as well.
@Serial Thrilla WHEEEEEEEEE BBRTTTRZTRTRTZHRRRRT
@@ArcadiyIvanov OKI Data for the win.
At least I don't have to pay 1000% markup on my dot-matrix ribbon.
It might be the original brrrrrt. But I'm fairly sure if you pair a GAU-8 up against a dot matrix printer, that the GAU-8 might just win.
Heh. Model Ms always remind me of an ex-girlfriend of mine ranting about how great they are because "you can type like you mean it."
I bet you regret not having married her.
@@SamuPamu Not really. She went full self-destruct after we broke up. Twice, in fact.
@@artisan002 That just sucks even more to hear
@@SamuPamu To be clear, her going self-destruct was her own choices come to roost. But, she's pulled it together as well as she can. But, still. Yeah.
When I was a kid I took apart my stepdad's model M and never got it back together right. I think he's still mad about it decades later.
You've been disowned and out of the will, he's just keeping it as a surprise for when he's gone. 🤣
Its a model m. Its not like you broke anything. More of a big annoyance. Let me guess, the springs werent seated properly ?
I work in operations at my local county govt - we're using a printronix dot matrix printer with our HP3000 mainframe
Mainframe? Are you stuck in the 70's?
4:10 manufactured in 199switch
Aaaaaw you beat me. My favourite year
Beat me to it! What god damn year was that?
More than once, this started to veer off into a strange ASMR space. LOL
Elon musk will announce Neuralink’s new interface and Wendell will be like not until my cold dead hands can't feel a model M !
You can remote-control your personal servant robot via Neuralink so it can type for you on a Model M. ;)
"Ridiculously Expensive"
Laughs in Keycult
Custom Mech guys have insane standards for keyboard prices, lmao.
Tbh if its this or a hot swap ergodox im picking an ergodox. I get that this is a pet project but like damn
Just dropped $500 on a custom build I made. Good shit.
@@asthmaticrhino What a coincidence, I just got an Ergodox and I plan on modding it with lubed Tangerine switches.
You weren't joking.
I checked their site, you can buy one of their keyboards from an auction OR comission one starting at US$ 2100 and going up to 3800 +800 for COATING . And they only make ten-key-less keyboards.
I have no doubt they're very well made but at some point long before this you stop paying for added quality and are just paying for the sake of paying.
I immediately went to their website, and then started crying because of the price. WOW.
Custom keyboards are about the same price, and are much more versatile. Could just build it, lube it and change it down the line to whatever you want.
From 350USD TO 550USD, roughly.
Keyboards are far overpriced and over hyped IMO. Anything more than 200 is exorbanant and over priced.
@@hi_tech_reptiles Yes random person on the internet, I also know about that hobby.
@@dewdop This dude gets it.
@@dewdop Honestly, with this board... it's understandable. This is low volume production of high-end components. Everything's made of metal, even the case. No expense was spared, it's a completely faithful reproduction of the original.
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I have a small stack of old-ish IBM SK-8811, they're rubber dome but I like them. People got them for me as Christmas gifts when my last one finally failed.
This is the best sort of geekery! I'm the same way with Apple Extended Keyboards. Orange ALPS for life!
Fun fact, engineers (civil) still use dot matrix because they often have to print out huge plan drawings. With no need for color the dot matrix still work fine.
Back in the late 80s I built dozens of XT clone machines accompanied by reproductions of the 84-key Model F (the one with the two rows of function keys along the side -- to match a template that shipped with WordPerfect at the time). Those all ran DR-DOS.
how could you ever feel guilty for indulging in something that you have been a long time fan of? Awesome pickup; I would so be down for one of these.
@5:46 seeing that pcie expansion bay bracket being used to pull a key cap......"NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"
@5:52 holy sh!t he read my mind!
You weren't alone screaming at your screen. Wendell, please, please, for the love of all that is good in the world, get a proper wire key puller.
As soon as they make an F122 Battleship, they'll have my money in a heartbeat!
SxC97 This. I’ll even pay for shipping to the UK and imports at that point. Better than trying to find one from eBay scalpers
I have two ! Well originals but still.
I hate space saving layouts; I want a 104 key or 122 key Model F!
@@brainandforce the bigger keyboard looks nice, but got used to my laptop keyboard to where i don’t see need for number pad, nav cluster (other than screen shot and arrows) and F keys 90% of the time. So i ended up just getting a cheap tkl layout when i did get mechanical keyboard.
I still type faster on laptop, but it is partly do to my weird way of typing. It’s weird to hit keys below home row with fingers so i ended up using my thumb. However, tall keys (which all mech boards have compared to a laptop) get in the way of using thumb for those keys.
Never thought you are a big buckling spring guy 😂 Have u tried some alps? They are pretty good too.
Lmao
Alps are good , but dam they age so badly ! I have a few NIB dell AT101s that i have opened up every switch and removed the tactile leaf, one of them i even put in an SGI case and used the SGI caps ! Mmmm so awesome! My first real keyboard after the razer blackwidow junk was an nortgate omnikey ultra T, i have a NEXT keyboard ( complicated black alps are so much better than the later ones) and some apple AEK1 and 2s ( they for some reason have not aged so badly) and i have TWO green alps zenith keyboards !
@@andljoy Yeah worn alps are nasty. They age a hell of a lot better if they're factory lubed though, orange alps usually feel good.
This is like listening to Jeremy Clarkson analyzing engine sounds. Glorious.
IBM keyboards seem more James May, if not a typewriter. Hammond would have a TKL RGB monstrosity. Clarkson would have something from V-tech in pastel plastic.
If you have ever visited the channel @UCD0y51PJfvkZNe3y3FR5riw, he does complete reviews, science, history, tear downs, repairs, and how to's with keyboards. We are talking some keyboards that are older than some of the pornstars you rub one off to too. I can see Chyrosran22 having a field day with this new board. He is brutal with new expensive boards. Trust me, if you want a full history education on all keyboards, go to his channel! My two main boards I use are a Beige Dell AT101 "Bigfoot" with the Alp Switches and the Unicomp "Battleship" 122 Keys (Black chassis - grey keys) Bucklespring. I just find the older boards a more enjoyable typing experience then current flashy rgb stuff.
I submit that the dot matrix shipping manifest is conclusive proof that this is just unnecessary nostalgia. Also: keys directly above the arrow keys. BURN IT.
Nerd ASMR Porn- I will never understand that I MUCH prefer a mushy membrane kb. My fingers are thin and weak cuz I have a nerve disability though so mechanical kbs are my nemesis (I tend to either not push the key hard enough or because of bad nerve endings hold keys down for too long resulting in 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA').
I was so close to buy one!
The one reason i did not is the combined arrows/numpad.
I could live without numpad but rather not, i can not live without arrows and arrows should have free space around them.
Since i use the arrow keys often and 90% of the time i do rest 1-2 fingers over the left/right arrow key so no free space there no go sadly.
If you can still find one get yourself a F107 "sausage dog" !
Um, I'm hardcore, but no I'm not that hard core. I like my modern mechanical with function and media keys. Too many compromises to be worth it IMO
Got one of these with the solenoid.
I've positioned the solenoid to bang against the inside of the case on the upstroke. It's... loud. Really loud.
I have an IBM Model M keyboard that was made the day before I was born and as you're reading this message, be aware that it was typed out using a Unicomp Model M.
For $400 I expect actual function keys & adjustable feet, blast it! I don't care if keys are programmable or not.
Trust me you really don't need adjustavle feets on this one.. or at least the tall one of the original look. You're right thst the lack of function key is an annoyance though. My only problem with mine but it make up for it on all the other aspects. That fucking keyfeel wow
Unicomp is in the process of making a tenkeyless. They've had some major delays, but they said its going to be released soon.
To me, these are not model F at this point... I don't see the link... on model F you had all sorts of oddities on the board, especially on the right side all around the number pard... and alos you had both on left and right side special large keys that were leader-less and shaped so you had to hit them at the center... all that stuff is not on their geek toys... so how can we call that model F?
I use two dot matrix printers! Both oki. micro line 321Turbo and a 4410,
I just bought one of the razer ones from wallmart complete with rgb for 85$ its good my old one had broken that day and I really needed one
I remember the day I switch from my old IBM keyboard into the newer membrane keyboard, I just complain around everything, they just suck so badly...
Took me a life-time to get my first mechanical and dame they are so good, even cleaning is so easy (corsair K63), mine is way more silence than the IBM (note).
I miss them!!!
Still using my very own Model M from 1988 as a daily driver. I played DOS games then. And.. I play DOS games now.
There is real joy in Wendel’s presentation on this one.
Great video. Thanks for sharing your passion!
5:35 O-Face Wendell
Over a year...? I've been waiting for mine for nearly 4 years... Hah... Hah.. hah..
Still, can't wait for that delivery notification.
8:29 RTX voice can't cope with the level of noise those buckling springs produce
Porn is not allowed on youtube good sir.... but this time i'll allow it
Now Wendell will be up all night long typing pangrams on his new toy, making the quick brown fox jump over the lazy dog again and again until the Spinx of black quartz finally agrees to judge his vow...
If I ever needed an explanation for the word nerd, now I got it :)
Its not a Model M successor, that's what Unicomp makes. This is a much better design compared to the cost saving of the Model M.
Unicomp makes Model Ms. Same factory, same workers, same tooling.
Yep, if you ever wanted to see Wendell just at that private moment when he's 'very happy', this is the video for you!
Well I just got mine in and oh man do I love it!
I opted for the "classic" style F77 in industrial grey and the first thing I noticed: Its HEAVY. Apparently its 8.3lbs. You might not think thats a big deal since its your desk holding that weight, not you. - till you want to adjust how your sitting and try to move the keyboard. This thing don't wanna move. It really does feel like an old a piece of industrial equipment.
The keys are noticeably lighter, and the clicking they make sounds different, but it still has that bucking spring feel to everything. Which is great that is exactly what I wanted because I personally just don't like Cherry MX and the MX Like key switches. Something about them feels... artificial? That the tactile "bump" and "click" aren't part of the actuating mechanism at all - because they aren't they are tacked on.
I type so much faster on my model f than I did on my unicomp M. I realise now how stiff the M is
poor Ryan eating his coco crisps for lunch while watching this video xD
Should get a proper keycap pulling tool 😩
It’s a Model M, that is the proper tool. 😛
I swear, I have never seen Wendell ever being a happy little fangirl like this before.
Too bad the price is premium, especially with shipping overseas :
Try and buy an original F62 or F77 and see how much they cost :D I have an original F107 ( among many other model Fs) and that was expensive enough !
Now time for beamspring keyboard!
In all seriousness I have my model m in the closet the key feel is great but non-split keyboards make my shoulders slump and get uncomfortable. Now I'm using ErgoCompressed with Box Jade keyswitches and MDA keycap profile. Running QMK firmware so all the customisability I can imagine. I just can't go back to stagger single piece keyboards as my daily driver. I like buckling springs but other benefits far outweigh the difference in feel for me.
Replacing every 5 to 10 years! I have been using the same model M since the late 90's
Got a cheap membrane keyboard that came with pc. Still working 8 years later. A few keys have gotten a little sticky feeling, so it might have dust inside, but not sure if its meant to be opened. I’d expect an expensive keyboard to last well past a decade with rough heavy typing. But i guess it ends up being like cloth, where people get new stuff when see something they like and replace older stuff.
"I feel like you wouldn't like that if it wasn't so obscure" - so what who cares? Humans value things for more than just their pure utilitarianness, and that's a good thing, everything would be boring if we picked things based purely on practical value. Something looking aesthetically appealing has just the same implications as liking something that's obscure. The cultural significance, who uses/used it, how popular/obsucre it is, how old/new it is, whether it has properties that nothing else has (even if those properties aren't 'better'), and overall just the emotional feeling you get from objects, are all important factors in deciding what things you want/like.
Unless we're talking about something that *has* to be super utlitarian like a satellite that needs to be small, lightweight and functional, then all of these things are very important factors to us as humans. I think it's part of the same part of us that leads to us creating art. I think it's something we need and almost as strong if not stronger than other base desires like sex or social acceptance. If we built the buildings in cities to be purely practical in their design it would have an extremely negative impact on the mental health of the people there (this has actually been studied with buildings). It's absolutely everywhere and is so deeply entrenched in us that even businesses do it when there's no or even a negative profit from it.
It's why I love my 122 key Model M made by IBM and try to get other people interested in it, but then at the same time I actually dislike the Unicomp versions. Unicomp just bought the patent and machinery from IBM and the modern ones they build are identical to the original IBM ones, except they're newer and have a Unicomp logo. Despite being identical I feel completely differently about each one, and even typing on a Unicomp doesn't feel as good to me as the IBM, despite the fact that the pure physical sensation is the same. Had Unicomp done what has been done in this video and redesined it then I'm sure I'd really like them, but the lack of a history, lack of age of the keyboards, and the total unoriginality behind the company now building them all have an impact on if I actually like the keyboard, as it does with most people (and if not wih keyboard, definitely with other things in your life), because we're humans not robots.
It's also why on r mechanicalkeyboards on reddit you see incredibly similar looking keyboards, but people have such wildly different feelings about them.
Yikes. $380 for an all beige model. I'm all for premium stuff, but that is a bit much.
Brings back 4 and 5 grad computer lab the memory's ahhh spending the afternoon seaking in games of Jordan vs Bird or good ole Oregon Trail when the teacher had to go take a call in the office I miss being a kid sometime :(
Why have an F4, when you can have an F11! But then what is in place of the F11? I guess we'll never know...
Correction: The original IBM Model F was released in 1982, and designed to be less expensive to manufacture, and have lower keyboard height, than its beamspring predecessors (e.g. 5251 and 3278). Model M, in turn was released in 1985, intended to be "as good as" the Model F, but even less expensive to manufacture.
In terms of quality of feel, beamsprings [keyboard nirvana] > Model F > Model M > every other keyboard ever manufactured.
Wendell: "its too expensive i dont want to buy a new keyboard!"
Cacodemon over his shoulder: *DO IT*
Wendell, you're not alone! I started out typing on an Atari 1200XL. Out of the entire lineup and vs. C64 and Apple, it had the nicest keyboard. I always missed the feel of it. For years I wandered the abyss that is domed keyboards, hating every minute of using them. Then, I finally bought a keyboard with some Cherry MX Browns... Even though the Atari was not the same switch at all, it had much the same feel... It's nice to have a quality keyboard that you know will last more than a couple of years as long as you take care of it, and every now and then you DO have to buy yourself something nice to remind you why you work in the first place.
That was my first computer also!
I don't really understand keyboard snobbism, I am around computers for 27 years and work daily on a keyboard 10-12 hours for at least 15 years. I had all kinds of keyboards, including model M and model F. They're fine, whatever, can't really tell any difference between them and chinese repro-switch mechanical keyboards. Still ended up using K120 from logitech cheapo daily for nearly 10 years because I got 5 of them at a discount years ago and it doesn't seem I'll burn through them anytime soon. But seeing Wendell's nerdgasms over trivial matters is always worth watching the video.
Sounds like you're having fun there. Do you think that you'll 'switch' to it, or will it be more of an alternative / on a secondary computer?
Interesting to know that I could always wire a solenoid up to my keyboard with MX Greens, if it's not offensive enough :-p
Pure typing heaven. Remember that key racket at the Old AA back in the 80's reservations center, imagine about 300 keyboards working at the same time.
I used to think only classical music could be remastered with such eargasmic quality.
That is a damn fine collection of keyboards! And here's me using some horrible OEM HP rubber domed slab of plastic, I really need to treat myself. store.level1techs.com...?
I have a Unicomp Classic 104-key USB version and I saw that Model F website but the lack of F-keys turned me ogff of them.
Okay, I had to get my 1995 Model M out of the closet and caress it for a while. Mine is PS/2 and has a hole in the back for a speaker. I think it came from an RS/6000.
I would've considered this keyboard more if they had a full 104 key or 122 key layout. For me, if I'm gonna drop several hundred dollars on a keyboard, I better get at least 100 keys.
Good video. Thank you
all well and good but for writing 100 pages a day I prefer my Logitech Illuminated keyboard. works 3 times faster than these things. all these decadent luxury keyboards are for people who don't actually write a lot.
"Engineered to survive the nuclear holocaust"
Yeah unless you live in a New England swamp like me where no membrane is safe from the relentless humidity.
They put so much effort into protecting the membrane from spillage though, as it is the only achilles heel.
Looks like the website has experienced the Hug of Death. Model F in the chat for the server.
You model M nerds need to try some 35g electrocapacitive keyboards from NIZ. Your wrist and arm muscles will thank you later.
I can't afford a good mechanical keyboard right now and i really don't want to buy a crappy one and ruin my first experience with them, so i'll wait and save up some money. German layout mechanical keyboards are really hard to find!
A building housing this collection needs to be built. The world's first IBM Kb gallery or amusement park?
And here i am a heathen rocking my romerGs
But is it compatible with the KVM? I've had terrible luck with programmable keyboards on mine.
Already watched that video, but now stumbled on this again, but isn't F77 made by F Labs, not Unicomp?
Model Ms were never made in Ireland. You're thinking of IBM Greenock which is in Scotland.
Were you hearing me screaming through your monitor about your choice of key cap puller?
I'm surprised there isn't a RGB buckling spring keyboard. It's only a matter of time.
why are stuff like sat75 and andromeda selling like hotcakes within seconds but these sold only 2000+ sets over 5 years?
That F77. I wants it.
Considering the model M was IBM cheaping out, because the model F was too expensive to produce.
I really want one of these but can't give up the functionality it lacks.
I want this, but in the actual XT layout. No function keys, no dice.
"Eighteen month pre-order"
I ordered mine in 2016 and am still waiting on it because I want to get the new keys with it :(
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I'm betting less than one week until you switch back to an adult size keyboard. I want to like smaller boards, but I can't stand them.
Flagging this as fetish porn
Been waiting 4 years for mine maybe ill get it before this century is over!
Wendell needs to meet chryosran22 and test all the keyboards and switches lol
For all of those Model M lunatics out there, back when I was working as a Janitor at a Education Center on USMC Camp Lejeune, (roughly 2011) I was made to clean out a storage room filled 10 ft tall by 4ft by 4 ft full of 1980's IBM Computers still in the box, all with Model M keyboards in them. When I say "clean it out" I mean everything in that room was covered in mold from hurricane damage and was told to throw it all in the dumpster. At least 30 unused model M's, trashed.
Ironically, they probably all worked fine. I pulled one out of a dumpster full of water. Aside from taking it apart for a deep scrub, it works. It worked before I cleaned it even, I just didn't want to touch it.
@@6mtzhp55 oh I have no doubt they still worked, these were full system boxes in the original packaging, with the Original packing tape still on the boxes! Completely untouched IBM Computers from the 80's!
It is really a successor to the Model M, or the Model F? Isn't capacitive contacts more a Model F thing as Model M is membrane?
Have you ever tried a bluetooth controller mod for model m? Would love to get a trusted opinion like your's on that
That's a lot of model M
I thought Linus was picky about keyboards. Jeeeeezzz.
The plastic looks cheap (the keys have gone shiny) - I dunno thye lingo (double shot PBT?) but can anyone clarify if I'm right in my initial observation?
His black keys are pad printed PBT.
When I look at this keyboard on this website, the edges around the keys seem to be much fatter than in this video. I wonder why?
My God Wendel you hoarder you have so many of those nope out of my reach for sure im poor
I'd pay a couple hundred. Can't justify $350 though
they're deffo classic keyboards, but the pure rattle would drive me nuts.