@@oriyus Everything new today's cost prohibitive. I got me a RV50 MKII used for a decent price. Best purchase I have ever made. Orange is made in the UK, Archon is now made in china, yes, everything is from China anyway but I assume the labor is the price difference.
To my ears, Orange blew this out of the park, especially the clean tones! In all examples, it was just a much more pleasing sound! I haven't had the Rockerverb on my wishlist for a long time for nothing! Great comparison as always, Jon :)
I agree, but I'm biased. I am playing a RV for a long time and not even for metal. With some good preamptubes this amp can do anything in fact. It's the most musical and lush amp I had. And I had a lot of boutique amps. Cheers Jon, your video's are always stellar!
I have the PRS Archon 100 (1st Gen) and an Orange Rockerverb MKiii 100 and trust me neither beat neither. They are both equally beautiful to own. Now with this new Generation of the Archon that he is playing here is not the same Archon as the 1st Gen Archon 50 & 100. This Archon he is playing is made with cheaper guts and design is different. Definitely not a fare comparison at all. Dude should have picked up a 1st Gen PRS Archon 50.
Just picked up an Archon 50 in a trade! I am absolutely elated with the tone. I had no idea what I was in for. My first tube amp ever, I didn't do any real "research" before my trade. But was blown away at the tone and responsiveness of this amp.
The archon is a great amp but man, there's just something about orange. Every channel here it just sounds way superior. Awesome video. Also, how do you always come up with such awesome riffs man?! It's like every video you do is just straight gold!
At some point stopped caring about the amps and i pulled out my expensive hifi headphones and kept looping that awesome riffs. Dude that sounded so good. SO GOOD. I like your style we definitely have similar influences and that sound capture was just absolute perfection. But yeah, the Orange hand down :)
Orange. Just bought this model😁. You by far have the BEST amp comparison channel. Acoustics are great. Not sure why your subscriber number is not larger!
Love the Archon, but the clean Orange was outstanding. Orange amps are a weird mystery for me, in that I really enjoy their tones and what other people do with them, but I can never make them work for me. Maybe some day though. Good comparison video!
Both sound great but I picked the orange. I’m a little biased. I have the 100 MK lll. The Orange is sort of like a mesa boogie .When you play them the sound goes through you .They ROAR!!!!🦁
As always the playing alone is worth the watch, the Orange will always be the winner to me (but I am bias as I run the mark 1 with 4 6v6 valves in the power stage). The prs sounds sweet as though, really highlights why folk run more than one amp at a time. Nice job as always sir.
Love this format of letting us hear the Clean sounds of the Amps first, as that provides a clear perspective to what is going on when Amp Gain is used. I agree with everything you said, and these two Amps are among my very favorites in the Line 6 Modeling world. I can't pick which is best, and use both all the time. This is easily my number one go to Channel for hearing how Amps sound and seeing them demonstrated. "You" are the best. 👍🤘😎
i have the rockerverb, barely play it, but if I got to tour with an amp, that would nail it... great stage presence, rest is EQ, IR, or cabs... if u have it, u can rock it at home as well... good volume control and just charming overall... :), so for anyone thinking about cashing one in... go for it, its a great amp!
I own the archon and I've been wanting the rockerverb 50 for years. Love them both but I bought the archon for budget reasons. I use an Orange IR for my archon (I know I'm in the minority). Maybe one day I'll get the rockerverb! Awesome vid as always
Oops almost skipped this one. I started it when you released it but my kids required my assistance and I forgot to come back. Here I am! Its okay! You can relax now knowing I got you. Lololol
For me the archon takes the win for me. Its just way tighter. But its kinda funny because id prefer the rockerverb because I already own a super tight amp soooo it wouldn't necessarily add anything to my collection. I already know I really enjoy a boosted rockerverb too. So it would be a no brainer for me. Just to be clear though I did think the archon did sound technically better. My approach to which amp id prefer is not focused so much on which one is "better" i want to expand upon my collection.
In case you would like to know (and also for the algorithm). My amp collection right now is. EVH 5150iiis el34 100 watt head Bugera trirec Joyo zombie Cabs ENGL 412 pro 2005 v30s Bugera cab. No clue what speakers. 112 epiphone tweed cab with a lady luck. And a carpeted rolling rack case I turned into an isolated cab with a v30. It performs way better than I expected. I've had many other cool rigs in the past but I sold almost everything when I got married and changed focus in life. I came back to it 7 years later once we had our lives together. I kept a few of my guitars all this time and some of my recording gear. I always stayed doing something with music but mostly working as foh for other bands.
I own the Orange Rockerverb MKIII 100w. So I'm biased . But I do think it's the better amp. Paired with Orange cab with v30s and an 808. it's all I've ever needed. Funnily enough though. I do use a PRS as the main guitar 🤔😄
i have seen that a lot of modern days metal guys using orange amps right now, very old boosted and newer ones also, they seem to prefere that mushy organic sound that orange amps are known for 😎
Archon on the dirty channel cuts through the mix in band setting really well. Orange sounds great. I think I could get both these amps sounding close especially with a 10 band eq. Archon is half the price. Go figure. Thanks for the video. Enjoyed it
I think for the first 5-10 minutes I'd prefer the Archon, but the Orange is so smooth and easy to listen to that it's very close, and after those 5-10 minutes it'll be less fatigueing to listen to. I think in a perfect world, you'd be running a dual amp setup with the Archon for leads and the Orange for riffs/rhythm. 😉
I am biased because I own the Archon 100W. Great amp all around. Clean channel is a perfect platform for pedals and stacking the dirty channel is another beast. 👌
You must be on to something. I wanted a Rockerverb, but bought an Archon 50 based on price and have been really pleased with it. Price aside, it looks like I'm in the minority, but I prefer the clarity of the Archcon's clean. Maybe a little less warmth and personality, but it sounds more "hi-fi." For dirty tones, the Orange sounds better in the mix, and is just so dang luscious. I still lean towards the Archcon when isolated though, which fits my solitary (friendless, lol) use case. Again, I think it's the clarity that does it for me. I don't think you can go wrong with either, and I wish I had both!
Great job as always! Orange is slightly better but it is double the price like you said (roughly $1200 or more). The cab and pedals you could get for that much far outweighs the difference in the heads themselves.
the orange over all has an attitude that suits my ear better. nice and thick and warm both clean and driven. i thought the dirty on the archon sounded a little rectifier sounding, but the tone was a little too sterile sounding to me on both channels.
The audio sounds great, which is why I would like to know why your full band mix is 5/6 decibels RMS louder than any given song on youtube? Don't you get volume penalty like everyone else?
I have the Rockerverb 100 Mk III, and I love it. It sounds absolutely amazing. That said, the Archon 50 definitely sounds great, too, and I'd love to own them both. To my ears, they sound quite a bit the same, but of course, you probably dialed in the tones to fit the track. The Archon has a bit more mid range chunk and tighter lows, but we all know how a Rockerverb reacts to a Tubescreamer, so that's a non-issue. ;)
Wish we could have heard the archon without the bright switch in the same IR cabinets for the cleans so there would be a reference. Welp, guess I just need to buy and archon and find out!
I like both. For the clean stuff the Orange blew me away at how full, rounded, and just plain beautiful it sounded. It outclassed the PRS on that by a mile. For the heavy stuff the PRS is my pick. It has something, maybe 2 somethings, in it's tone that the Orange doesn't have as far as my ear can tell. The Orange is still very good on the heavy but for me it noticeably can't hang with the PRS on that.
both good amps but very diffrent. I do prefer the orange for it's vintage warmth and more balanced overall tone. It's funny because right now my favorite Axe Fx preset is the Archon with magnatone 1x12 Ir 😂.
I haven't had the pleasure of trying an orange in person, but I like the sound in the right context. That being said, the orange models in the axefx left me wanting something, but the archon model blew me away. That might have something to do with it, maybe I just didn't know how to use it, the archon felt easy to dial in and sounded good from noon.
@@progpogs I agree, but with latest update everything sound better including the Orange. I suggest you try the new Orange cabs pack from OH and keep the master volume of the amp high. Of course, it will always depend on what tone you're looking for.
Orange wins… Both distortions sound similar enough, but the Orange clean is hands down the better of the two… Of course, running everything through reactive loads and cab simulators no doubt influences these videos… Would be nice to get some mic’d cab vids…
I find that you get very little tonal difference. Have you tried to mic a cabinet and then compare it with the difference of the recordings made with ir's? When I mic a cabinet here at home and compare amplifiers, I get a massive difference..
Hi! thank you very much for this video! I would like to ask you , is your Archon amp one of the old USA made or is it one of the knew version from indonesia? I know that the circuit is the same but the components are poor quality in the newest version and it sounds cheap and noisy. Thanks again!
This is the newer version. FYI, the mk i was assembled in the USA, there isn't or wasn't a US MADE Archon. Not that it should make any difference where something is made. You'll find 'overseas' made equipment that's great and could still have QC problems and poor components in 'western' made equipment and vice versa.
80%er who always skips the cleans - I definitely prefer the Archon, though both sounded great. I like the mids on the Archon, and the low end sounded tighter and more percussive to my ears.
I liked the Orange just a bit more, the PRS was just a bit too compressed for me. As far as the pricing goes, when you factor in that it’s UK made and has built in attenuation, it’s worth every penny. Seriously, they’re built like tanks and are wildly reliable.
PRS amp is like the guitars, which are like gibsons but super smooth, but like the base ball bat unwieldy necks on gibson, the orange has this natural mid spikey punch that is just a but more grittier and rebel. The archon sounds very nice and stable, but the orange sounds like it wants to let loose. When I watch a live band, I Want it to sonically ATTACK ME like a drug
Imho, the main difference it that the Orange is an amp created with years of expertise and the archon is a toy created to fill the market. All the love to the Rockerverb!
@@SonicDriveStudioWell my guitar is set up, I have new strings, good cables, and Im using a noise gate and maxon 808 so it probably is the tubes, could you elaborate why you dont think it is the tubes though?
In my opinion, the Rockerverb was better. The clean channel on the Archon sounds thin and trebly. The Rockerverb sounds rich and full. The dirty channel is the same for me. Rockerverb has a full sound, and the Archon sounds thinner and more spikey. For PRS, I prefer the MT15 tone over the Archon as well. To me, the tone on the MT15 is fuller, with better bass. The Archon again just sounds thin to me.
mmm, difficult, I'd say the orange is easier, like more friendly to the ears, but not better. I'm pretty sure you could dial the archon to sound much more like the orange but it is not the point here.
i played both in a store. Archon was way better. So I bought one...then it literally went up in smoke 3 hours in. I've heard that this has happened to a couple of other people based on reading online forums. From what I'm told, they have a overheating problem, but PRS hasn't confirmed this so may or may not have been an isolated incident.
Over here the difference isn't that big, more like 800 or so. But sure, If budget is an issue the Archon is more affordable. In that case one could also look at more affordable Oranges if that signature Orange tone is desired
Definitely the PRS. Its got a sound that no other amp has. Probably the tube selection and quantity. Its so defined and tight. My 50 combo is the last amp for me for a while.The only thing I would suggest is getting something like a boss sd1 for the clean channel to get some great light breakup and rock tones. Heavy Rock and Metal is the Archons best feature. Few compare in my opinion.
Which one would you choose? Both are so good!
Orange mixes better overall but the Archon definitely has more bandwidth.
So hard to choose!
Orange sound fuller IMO but that hardly justifies the price.
@@oriyus Everything new today's cost prohibitive. I got me a RV50 MKII used for a decent price. Best purchase I have ever made. Orange is made in the UK, Archon is now made in china, yes, everything is from China anyway but I assume the labor is the price difference.
Rockerverb MKIII all day long. Archon ain't bad, Orange just to my ear/style just sounds better. Horses for courses though...
To my ears, Orange blew this out of the park, especially the clean tones! In all examples, it was just a much more pleasing sound! I haven't had the Rockerverb on my wishlist for a long time for nothing! Great comparison as always, Jon :)
I agree, but I'm biased. I am playing a RV for a long time and not even for metal. With some good preamptubes this amp can do anything in fact. It's the most musical and lush amp I had. And I had a lot of boutique amps. Cheers Jon, your video's are always stellar!
Blew it out of the park? Idk bout that
I have the PRS Archon 100 (1st Gen) and an Orange Rockerverb MKiii 100 and trust me neither beat neither. They are both equally beautiful to own. Now with this new Generation of the Archon that he is playing here is not the same Archon as the 1st Gen Archon 50 & 100. This Archon he is playing is made with cheaper guts and design is different. Definitely not a fare comparison at all. Dude should have picked up a 1st Gen PRS Archon 50.
Just picked up an Archon 50 in a trade! I am absolutely elated with the tone. I had no idea what I was in for. My first tube amp ever, I didn't do any real "research" before my trade. But was blown away at the tone and responsiveness of this amp.
The archon is a great amp but man, there's just something about orange. Every channel here it just sounds way superior. Awesome video. Also, how do you always come up with such awesome riffs man?! It's like every video you do is just straight gold!
At some point stopped caring about the amps and i pulled out my expensive hifi headphones and kept looping that awesome riffs. Dude that sounded so good. SO GOOD.
I like your style we definitely have similar influences and that sound capture was just absolute perfection.
But yeah, the Orange hand down :)
Wow that clean demo was genuinely beautiful 🙏
Love the grit on the Orange. No wonder it's so widely used for doom metal. Sounds a lot more raw and organic, thus it gets my vote.
organic, great description. I'm with you.
Orange. Just bought this model😁. You by far have the BEST amp comparison channel. Acoustics are great. Not sure why your subscriber number is not larger!
Great video as always I love PRS, and it sounds more more modern dirty, but pretty stale clean. The Orange is so much warmer
I've owned both, I still own the Rockerverb, and currently use it in my band. Orange was a clear choice for me, but both are excellent.
Another great demo John!!
The PRS is my favourite
Love the Archon, but the clean Orange was outstanding. Orange amps are a weird mystery for me, in that I really enjoy their tones and what other people do with them, but I can never make them work for me. Maybe some day though.
Good comparison video!
Same here. Have the same dilemma with Dual Rectifiers.
Yep I have a rockerverb 50 and I'm looking to sell it as I can't get the right tone out of it for me.
I'd be super interested to see the PRS Archon 50 vs one of the 50w EVH 5150 IIIs since they are similar price points!
Both sound great but I picked the orange. I’m a little biased. I have the 100 MK lll. The Orange is sort of like a mesa boogie .When you play them the sound goes through you .They ROAR!!!!🦁
I like both amps but the Archon for the heavy stuff edges it out by a close margin. Great video great playing and audio. \m/
As always the playing alone is worth the watch, the Orange will always be the winner to me (but I am bias as I run the mark 1 with 4 6v6 valves in the power stage). The prs sounds sweet as though, really highlights why folk run more than one amp at a time.
Nice job as always sir.
rockerverb for me 🥰..orange amps have a certain kind of magic mojo to me that i have not found in any other amp so far
Aside from amps sounds (that were awesome, by the way), your clean parts was beautiful...I almost forgot that it was an amp test. hahahahaha
I was more interested in this comparison for the dirty sounds; but daaaaaaam the clean tones out of the Orange were amazing.....
Thank you for your video. For me more interested Archon, both clean and lead channel.
Love this format of letting us hear the Clean sounds of the Amps first, as that provides a clear perspective to what is going on when Amp Gain is used. I agree with everything you said, and these two Amps are among my very favorites in the Line 6 Modeling world. I can't pick which is best, and use both all the time. This is easily my number one go to Channel for hearing how Amps sound and seeing them demonstrated. "You" are the best. 👍🤘😎
i have the rockerverb, barely play it, but if I got to tour with an amp, that would nail it... great stage presence, rest is EQ, IR, or cabs... if u have it, u can rock it at home as well... good volume control and just charming overall... :), so for anyone thinking about cashing one in... go for it, its a great amp!
I loved your clean song, really beautiful. I think on that one the Orange wins for me. On dirty sounds either one works well and serves the song.
I'm a big fan of PRS Archon, but I absolutely loved Orange here, especially for the clean tones
I own the archon and I've been wanting the rockerverb 50 for years. Love them both but I bought the archon for budget reasons. I use an Orange IR for my archon (I know I'm in the minority). Maybe one day I'll get the rockerverb! Awesome vid as always
Not really in the minority buddy. I also use an orange IR for all my amps . There’s just something about that PPC412 that slays all other cabs.
Oops almost skipped this one. I started it when you released it but my kids required my assistance and I forgot to come back. Here I am! Its okay! You can relax now knowing I got you. Lololol
For me the archon takes the win for me. Its just way tighter. But its kinda funny because id prefer the rockerverb because I already own a super tight amp soooo it wouldn't necessarily add anything to my collection. I already know I really enjoy a boosted rockerverb too. So it would be a no brainer for me. Just to be clear though I did think the archon did sound technically better. My approach to which amp id prefer is not focused so much on which one is "better" i want to expand upon my collection.
In case you would like to know (and also for the algorithm). My amp collection right now is.
EVH 5150iiis el34 100 watt head
Bugera trirec
Joyo zombie
Cabs
ENGL 412 pro 2005 v30s
Bugera cab. No clue what speakers.
112 epiphone tweed cab with a lady luck.
And a carpeted rolling rack case I turned into an isolated cab with a v30. It performs way better than I expected.
I've had many other cool rigs in the past but I sold almost everything when I got married and changed focus in life. I came back to it 7 years later once we had our lives together. I kept a few of my guitars all this time and some of my recording gear. I always stayed doing something with music but mostly working as foh for other bands.
I own the Orange Rockerverb MKIII 100w. So I'm biased . But I do think it's the better amp. Paired with Orange cab with v30s and an 808. it's all I've ever needed. Funnily enough though. I do use a PRS as the main guitar 🤔😄
There are no rules :)
I just got a Cortex, I wish you did captures of these, I'm sure many people would gladly pay for these beauties.
Orange distorted organic tone + boost= heaven!
i have seen that a lot of modern days metal guys using orange amps right now, very old boosted and newer ones also, they seem to prefere that mushy organic sound that orange amps are known for 😎
Archon on the dirty channel cuts through the mix in band setting really well. Orange sounds great. I think I could get both these amps sounding close especially with a 10 band eq. Archon is half the price. Go figure. Thanks for the video. Enjoyed it
I think for the first 5-10 minutes I'd prefer the Archon, but the Orange is so smooth and easy to listen to that it's very close, and after those 5-10 minutes it'll be less fatigueing to listen to.
I think in a perfect world, you'd be running a dual amp setup with the Archon for leads and the Orange for riffs/rhythm. 😉
I really like your riffs! Orange wins because it sounds alive. PRS seemes tighter though
In this cool video I chose the orange amp 🍻🍻🍻
I am biased because I own the Archon 100W. Great amp all around. Clean channel is a perfect platform for pedals and stacking the dirty channel is another beast. 👌
Gotta love the sound of the Orange.
Orange for both clean and dirty
You must be on to something. I wanted a Rockerverb, but bought an Archon 50 based on price and have been really pleased with it. Price aside, it looks like I'm in the minority, but I prefer the clarity of the Archcon's clean. Maybe a little less warmth and personality, but it sounds more "hi-fi." For dirty tones, the Orange sounds better in the mix, and is just so dang luscious. I still lean towards the Archcon when isolated though, which fits my solitary (friendless, lol) use case. Again, I think it's the clarity that does it for me. I don't think you can go wrong with either, and I wish I had both!
Great job as always!
Orange is slightly better but it is double the price like you said (roughly $1200 or more).
The cab and pedals you could get for that much far outweighs the difference in the heads themselves.
the orange over all has an attitude that suits my ear better. nice and thick and warm both clean and driven. i thought the dirty on the archon sounded a little rectifier sounding, but the tone was a little too sterile sounding to me on both channels.
Great tones, and with the same Ir on isolate tracks we can really compare them with précision.
The orange all the way!! I love it’s character!
Have had RV 50 and 100, have Archon 50. Love the Orange sound. The Archon is easier to work with, cuts thru better, and costs much le$$. Love it.
Orange for sure...it sounds amazing
The audio sounds great, which is why I would like to know why your full band mix is 5/6 decibels RMS louder than any given song on youtube? Don't you get volume penalty like everyone else?
I have the Rockerverb 100 Mk III, and I love it. It sounds absolutely amazing. That said, the Archon 50 definitely sounds great, too, and I'd love to own them both. To my ears, they sound quite a bit the same, but of course, you probably dialed in the tones to fit the track. The Archon has a bit more mid range chunk and tighter lows, but we all know how a Rockerverb reacts to a Tubescreamer, so that's a non-issue. ;)
The Archon handles overdrives very well too. You can actually hear the difference in each pedal!
yeee bb gimme da archon vids
Nice!
Dude you have SO MANY heads!! Do you use an amp selector ?
Do you manually take one off the shelf and hook them up one by one?
Thx🇨🇦
That Orange is punchy af..love it
I wanted a rockerverb but got a archon. For the price it can't be beat and the comparison on the gain channel to me sounded similar enough
Wish we could have heard the archon without the bright switch in the same IR cabinets for the cleans so there would be a reference. Welp, guess I just need to buy and archon and find out!
Orange. Quality But like both. . Exactly what you said . Prs modern
I like both. For the clean stuff the Orange blew me away at how full, rounded, and just plain beautiful it sounded. It outclassed the PRS on that by a mile. For the heavy stuff the PRS is my pick. It has something, maybe 2 somethings, in it's tone that the Orange doesn't have as far as my ear can tell. The Orange is still very good on the heavy but for me it noticeably can't hang with the PRS on that.
Love orange rockverb n PRS Archon Sound Modern N Nice For Djent
commenting before seeing the video, I prefer the orange, let's see if it stays the same after the video
I like the Rockerverb slightly more, but that Archon wins for the price alone.
Orange for me. Did you take a kook at the supercrush 100?
both good amps but very diffrent.
I do prefer the orange for it's vintage warmth and more balanced overall tone.
It's funny because right now my favorite Axe Fx preset is the Archon with magnatone 1x12 Ir 😂.
I haven't had the pleasure of trying an orange in person, but I like the sound in the right context. That being said, the orange models in the axefx left me wanting something, but the archon model blew me away. That might have something to do with it, maybe I just didn't know how to use it, the archon felt easy to dial in and sounded good from noon.
@@progpogs I agree, but with latest update everything sound better including the Orange.
I suggest you try the new Orange cabs pack from OH and keep the master volume of the amp high.
Of course, it will always depend on what tone you're looking for.
@@alaincousineau9321 Thanks I'll give it a shot, are you using the rockaverb or something else?
@@progpogs I use the terror, Rockaverb and A30 (clean)
I will have to go with the rockerverb, the archon had an emphasis on high mids I didn't like
Really like the orange clean tones. Crunch, the PRS takes it.
The Orange for clean, the Archon just does it for me with the driven tones. Except Orange has a better palm mute.
Orange wins…
Both distortions sound similar enough, but the Orange clean is hands down the better of the two…
Of course, running everything through reactive loads and cab simulators no doubt influences these videos…
Would be nice to get some mic’d cab vids…
I find that you get very little tonal difference. Have you tried to mic a cabinet and then compare it with the difference of the recordings made with ir's? When I mic a cabinet here at home and compare amplifiers, I get a massive difference..
Hi! thank you very much for this video! I would like to ask you , is your Archon amp one of the old USA made or is it one of the knew version from indonesia? I know that the circuit is the same but the components are poor quality in the newest version and it sounds cheap and noisy. Thanks again!
This is the newer version. FYI, the mk i was assembled in the USA, there isn't or wasn't a US MADE Archon. Not that it should make any difference where something is made. You'll find 'overseas' made equipment that's great and could still have QC problems and poor components in 'western' made equipment and vice versa.
I love the orange because it’s the amp I use
80%er who always skips the cleans - I definitely prefer the Archon, though both sounded great. I like the mids on the Archon, and the low end sounded tighter and more percussive to my ears.
The Rockerverb easily takes it for cleans but I preferred the tightness and the bite of the Archons high gain tone.
I liked the Orange just a bit more, the PRS was just a bit too compressed for me.
As far as the pricing goes, when you factor in that it’s UK made and has built in attenuation, it’s worth every penny.
Seriously, they’re built like tanks and are wildly reliable.
Stayed for the music.
PRS amp is like the guitars, which are like gibsons but super smooth, but like the base ball bat unwieldy necks on gibson, the orange has this natural mid spikey punch that is just a but more grittier and rebel. The archon sounds very nice and stable, but the orange sounds like it wants to let loose. When I watch a live band, I Want it to sonically ATTACK ME like a drug
Imho, the main difference it that the Orange is an amp created with years of expertise and the archon is a toy created to fill the market. All the love to the Rockerverb!
Hot take. Couldn't disagree more.
Besides that I love every amp 😁 i would chose PRS
Do you have any views on the Super Crush 100?
Theyre close but I think I prefer the archon!
The Orange wins it for me. Archon sounds generic. The Orange just has more character and complexity to it's tone.
Both are mass market shit to me
How do you think a super crush would do against the PRS?
Becouse Im a huge fan of tight sounding Amps so For me Archon :D
What’s the best boost/od pedal for the Rockerverb?
SD-1
Still love the Rockerverb
High gain goes to the Archon for me but Orange mops the floor with PRS in terms of Cleans
I can never get my amps to sound as good as you do even when I use the same cab and amp, I think I got bad tubes or something
It's probably not the tubes tbh
@@SonicDriveStudioWell my guitar is set up, I have new strings, good cables, and Im using a noise gate and maxon 808 so it probably is the tubes, could you elaborate why you dont think it is the tubes though?
I like the Orange
PRS Archon for dirty tones. Orange amps have the worst, squishiest sounding palm mutes. Orange for clean tone, no question.
In my opinion, the Rockerverb was better. The clean channel on the Archon sounds thin and trebly. The Rockerverb sounds rich and full. The dirty channel is the same for me. Rockerverb has a full sound, and the Archon sounds thinner and more spikey. For PRS, I prefer the MT15 tone over the Archon as well. To me, the tone on the MT15 is fuller, with better bass. The Archon again just sounds thin to me.
mmm, difficult, I'd say the orange is easier, like more friendly to the ears, but not better. I'm pretty sure you could dial the archon to sound much more like the orange but it is not the point here.
i played both in a store. Archon was way better. So I bought one...then it literally went up in smoke 3 hours in. I've heard that this has happened to a couple of other people based on reading online forums. From what I'm told, they have a overheating problem, but PRS hasn't confirmed this so may or may not have been an isolated incident.
Orange Clean, PRS for gain
Orange wins. The PRS sounds good too though
Orange!
Orange is way better on the cleans, PRS sounds cheap. On the distortion the PRS sounds more modern, but I still like the Orange best...in my opinion.
Really close! Archon is slightly less buzzy.
Love the Archon but I think Orange just slightly gets ahead.
Comparatively, Orange is deeper and wider. PRS is thinner more sharp and razor like.. what is better is subjective to taste.
Orange sounds a bit more spongy on clean, little more clarity and more ringy.
It gets down to budget and funds . 1200.00 difference is huge to someone on a tight budget
Over here the difference isn't that big, more like 800 or so. But sure, If budget is an issue the Archon is more affordable. In that case one could also look at more affordable Oranges if that signature Orange tone is desired
man, Orange is the best!!!
Definitely the PRS. Its got a sound that no other amp has. Probably the tube selection and quantity. Its so defined and tight. My 50 combo is the last amp for me for a while.The only thing I would suggest is getting something like a boss sd1 for the clean channel to get some great light breakup and rock tones. Heavy Rock and Metal is the Archons best feature. Few compare in my opinion.
I'm not sure I can watch this. I already want both amps and fear watching this may leave a sizable dent in my wallet.
Give into your gas
@@SonicDriveStudio Haha I did recently with a Revv Generator 120 mk3. It's every bit as good as I expected too.
Orange - cleans
Archon- dirty
IMO, the Orange was the clear winner.