I worked in the restaurant industry for over a decade and just lost my job in the pandemic. A friend got me in touch with a wood shop here in town. I have no experience but the owner needs a finisher and is having me come in. Your video has me feeling totally prepared to take on this new job and new skill. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!
I ordered the sweet deal TFS has which is their own branded version of this same exact pump set up the CA Tech 14:1 with the TFS logo and comes with the Wagner GM4700. Looking to up my production efficiency after years of air spraying which is still my preference but it has its place. This Video was the exact thing I was looking for on youtube. Best breakdown for anyone making the transition over from HVLP or Airless. I now cannot wait to receive my set up thank you so much!
Great video. Thank you so much for the valuable information. I currently use a preesure pot to spray but have been researching air assist airless. Leaning toward the CA Technologies with either the Bobcat or Cougar spray gun. This information will be of great value in getting set up.
Thank you! I have a CA Technologies 14:1 that I originally ordered with the Bobcat gun, but later replaced the gun with the Wagner GM4700 Aircoat that I used in this demo. It's a great setup! Thanks! Scott
You can spray latex Urethane enamels for cabinets with an hvlp no problem. I've done many jobs with fantastic results. Maybe not lacquer factory finish but really great Edit: but also great video. You know way more then me by a long shot
Hello Scott I so wish to thank you for the clarity of your excellent videos!! So just subscribed and employed the bell. Greatly impressed by your lower pressure on the wagner air coat. I would very much like to hear your opinion on a comparison of your preference between the air coat and kremlin excite gun....! Looking for the best quality finish. Your videos show a lot research and thought! So thank you!! just jim
Hi, thank you for the kind words! Both the Wagner Aircoat and the Sames Kremlin Airmix Xcite are great guns. There are a couple of differences that set them a part. Kremlin Xcite: Fluid swivel Short fluid filter (needs wrench Tips- regular and fine Fluid fitting- JIC #5 Air fitting- 1/4" npt Tip cost $100-120 Gun Cost- $795 (maybe more now) Wagner GM4700 Aircoat Fluid swivel Air swivel Long contractor style filter Toolesss filter change Tips- regular and fine Fluid fitting-1/4" npt Air fitting-1/4" npt Reversible flat tip design No tip seals No nozzle o-rings Tip cost- $80-110 Gun cost- $840-900 For me I saw a 50% reduction in atomizing air going from 20 psi to 10 psi. Both guns were running 700 psi fluid with a 411 tip (0.011"). Hope this helps. Scott
Great video explaining difference between air compressor guns,airless and air assisted airless pumps. Can't find this anywhere else! I much appreciated doing this video!! Question: I have recently purchased ca technologies Pump with cougar gun to spray clear water base finish Wondering if I can just purchase the Wagner gm 4700ac aircoat with another line set and not buy another 14/1 pump to spray pigmented waterbase. I know you have a few different pumps (Kremlin) (ca technologies)gun setups. Do you spray different finishes through pump and clean it without contaminating future finish or are they all dedicated single finishes in each setup. Thanks Rob
Hi, Thank you! Yes, you can replace your CA Technologies Cougar with the Wagner GM4700 AC gun. the fittings are the same, so no special fittings or hoses required. Yes, I have dedicated pumps for different finishes: CA Technologies 14:1 Pump / Wagner GM4700 AC gun-Clear Precat Lacquer Kremlin 10:14 (10:1) Pump / Kremlin MVX gun-Clear VPrecat Vinyl Sealer Kremlin 10:14 (10:1) Pump / Wagner GM4700 AC-Precat Primers & Pigmented Precat Lacquers Kremlin 10:14 (10:1) Pump / Kremlin JX gun-WB Finishes Thanks! Scott
I only have a small compressor 50ltrs will that matter if i get a pump.? or do i need to get a larger compressor, be great if i didnt need a compressor at all. i spray pre-laquer and pre-cat paint. great video by the way very helpful. im just looking at getting a pump and this help alot.
It all depends on if the pump you get is air driven. If you use an electric airless pump, then the only air required is for the atomizing air. If you use an air driven pump, you'd need to look at the specs if the pump for air consumption. Thanks
Awesome video Scott. Thanks for the information. I was curious about AAA pumps. Do they run off large compressors or do they have any models that are electric and could be used with a smaller compressor. Most of my work is on site so I was curious. I have been looking at different brands and I know they have portable units but I don’t think they are the same. I am just not sure
Thank you! No large compressor required. In fact CA Technologies makes an air driven pump that is supplied by a small 2 hp onboard compressor with twin tanks, all on a convenient cart for ease of portability. Thanks. Scott
Hi Scott have watched Bradshaw Joinery, another very talented guy, he also has a video on air assisted airless you might enjoy, he’s from our side of the pond,😂😂🇪🇺
Hi Dana, yes air assisted airless for all if my primers, sealer, and precat lacquers, clear and pigmented. I'm using in the demo a CA Technologies 14:1 pump. Thanks! Sc
Hi I've got the 4700 gun a Wagner puma 28/40 pump and a Gentilin 330/24l 3hp compressor. I'm spraying Renner 641 base and Renner 760 top coats. I can't seem to get my fluid pressure below 20psi and I see you are spraying at 760. I'm using a 11/40 tip, do you know what I'm doing wrong please
I'm thinking you are referring to 20 psi air pressure? If so, the relationship between fluid and air is not necessarily linear. Lower fluid pressure will often require more atomizing air, and vis versa. Also the coating viscosity plays a part two thicker costings tend to rewire higher pressure to break-up the droplet sizes. Every type of coating has different atomizing characteristics. I'd try a little higher fluid pressure, which should lessen the tails of the pattern which in-turn require less atomizing air. If the 11/40 is to much, try a 09/40 which will reduce the flow slightly but generate smaller droplets. Scott
I second all saying well APPRECIATED, informative and well done. NEXT ONE, please consider a AAA gun comparison (Ie ; I know you have the Kremlin, the CAT and now the Wagner.....be nice to see the diff from them ( and even from more other guns if possible ) from the same settings.....Thks for considering !
I'm looking into getting an AAA pump as one of my airless died on me. Would you say there is a big disadvantage with a higher ratio pump like a merkur 30:1 AA. I run KemAqua Plus. I have the option to get a used pump and gun at a good price. I also have a Binks AA 1500 gun I never got around to building a system for. Any thoughts. Thanks for the great content over the years.
There's not to many disadvantages to a larger ratio unless you are trying to spray stain where you need a low fluid pressure like 200-300 psi, the pump might not cycle properly at the change over from the strike direction may have a slight hesitation causing a skip or wink in the pattern. The fix would be to add a fluid regulator and fluid pressure gauge to the output of the pump before the fluid hose. If you are planning on spraying more viscus materials such as WB coatings, or pigmented conversion varnishes, the 30:1 will work with plenty to spare. With today's advanced coatings, if I had to do it all over again I'd be running all 14:1 - 15:1 or greater. If you use a 30:1, and the fluid pressure you pressure you need doesn't allow it to cycle properly because it's to low, you can always add a fluid pressure regulator and gauge like I mentioned, them you can run the pump pressure up higher and govern your fluid pressure with the fluid pressure regulator. This is very common in a commercial application where a lot of companies pump the coatings from what they call a "paint kitchen" which is a room that they pump all the coatings from out to different parts of the finish room. Hopefully this helps.
@@TheWoodCraftsman thanks for the info. I did wind up picking up the unit as it was a good price and came with the Graco G40 gun and a spare set of lines. It's a merkur pump. I did notice a hesitation on the rod direction switch over but it seemed consistent from 15psi in up to 60 psi in spraying water with a 412 tip. I'm sure once I drop tip a bit with thicker material it will smooth out a bit. Also planning on a rebuild of the seals etc. Ill look into a fluid regulator once the new compressor is setup. I've been running a smaller airless unit with the newer fflp tips running a 412 at about 1000-1100 psi and have gotten good at timing my passes in line with the low pressure cycling of that unit lol. Have you ever used the Binks AA1600M guns?
I've tried the Binks 1600 at my day job, and we ruled it out due to the trigger safety still triggering the gun. I hear they have a soft pattern though.
Hello Scott, Thank You for your video. If you were spraying automotive or linear polyurethane which system would produce a better finish ? AAA or air spray ?
So if you're asking automotive as in repair or repaint a vehicle, AAA is not ideal for many reasons, including the final feel. However, if spraying production, AAA would work well. Most any industrial coating with a potlife of 1 hour or greater would work. The short potlife PUs may not work or feasible due to clean up and waste. One of the biggest advantages is the increased transfer efficiency with speed of an AAA system when setup properly.
What's difference between ff lp tips and air coat? And graco has a air assisted airless that uses rac tips instead of flat tips. What's your opinion about that?
The Wagner Aircoat is the same technology as air assisted airless, but just like Kremlin with their Airmix, they decided to name it. For me out of all the different AAA guns I've used with the same coating in the past, the Wagner GM4700 Aircoat has the softest spray pattern using the same tip size and fluid pressures as my others, but using only using about 10 psi atmozing air compared to 17 for my CA Technologies Bobcat and 20 for my Kremlin MIX, all using 700 psi fluid with a 411 tip.
Hi Scot, just purchased the Wagner gm 4700. I ordered it with the blue cap but arrived with red cap. I asked the rep and he said there’s no difference between them both will spray oil or water based. To your knowledge is this correct. Thanks
Your rep might not be educated enough on the Wagner equipment. The red and blue are NOT the same. The red LV aircap is for the low viscosity, and the blue HV is for high viscosity. I believe if the distributor the orders it from Wagner uses the SKU for a complete gun with an aircap, the default is the red LV. There is also a SKU for a bare gun, which then the aircap is sold separately. Definitely give it a try with the red cap, you may be surprised. I have both blue and red for mine that is use for primers and pigmented precat, and I've using the red for both. Scott
Hi, unfortunately I'm not aware of any, which is the reason I made the video because it's a question that comes up a lot. It's something that an equipment vendor and a coating supplier should be doing jointly, but doesn't always happen. Thanks. Scott
Hi, thank you. Normally I would but everyone's speed and preference is quite different from one to another. There is an array of coatings out there, and from one manufacturer to another the application characteristics are quite different. This video was just a basic entry level setup on the concept and principle of the AAA system.
I am a cabinet maker and I have a Graco 390 classic, I would like to convert it in Air Assist Airless. What dimension of compressor and Gun you can advise me?
I've had really good luck with the Wagner GM4700 Aircoat gun. A small since your pump is electric, you won't need much air, a small (1-2 HP) compressor with a 10-15 gallon tank would probably work pretty well, since you probably won't need anything more than 30 psi max air for atomizing air. The bigger the compressor and tank the less it will cycle. Hope this helps. Scott
So the Wagner Aircoat (GM4700 AC) and the Kremlin Airmix (Xcite) are both considered to be air assisted airless. The difference is in how they perform. For years I used Kremlin, and last year I came across this Wagner Aircoat for pennys on the dollar and decided to try it, and this is what I saw: Using the same coating, same tip size (orifice and pattern), and same fluid pressure, i cut the atomizing air in half (from 20 PSI to 10 PSI). My results using SW Sherwood Hi-Bild Precat Lacquer: -Kremlin MVX (Vx124 aircap) 411 tip (CAT), 700 PSI fluid, 20 PSI atomizing air -CA Technologies Bobcat 411 tip (CAT), 700 PSI fluid, 17 PSI atomizing air -Wagner GM4700 AC 411 tip (Wagner), 700 PSI fluid, 10 PSI atomizing air. For me, I saw a dramatic drop in the air required to complete the pattern and rid the tails. The lower you can keep the atomizing air and fluid pressure, the less bounce back and better transfer efficiency in general. Individual results may vary. I am not saying in any way that the Wagner is the best, it's simply the best for me and offers some unique features that are not typically found with other AAA guns. I hope this helps. Scott
Sorry, I do not. I've found that it a table style turn table tends to influence more overspray if the bottom side is pretty close to the surface. When I changed to a more open turn table, the overspray was pretty much eliminated.
Awesome video! I’d like to PM you or even call. I am setting up a new finish room soon for my business that builds high end teardrop trailers. I’d love to chat ASAP.
It depends on what you are trying to achieve or accomplish. The the bigger the first number, the wider the pattern, the bigger the second two numbers the more will come out. If you are looking for a little more speed, you could go up to a 513. The manufacturer of your gun tips should be able to provide you a tip chart that provides flow rates for each tip size orifice. They're flow rate are typically rated in water at two different pressures. That can give you an idea as to what you are currently using and to something with a little bit more output without making a significant change in you technique.
I worked in the restaurant industry for over a decade and just lost my job in the pandemic. A friend got me in touch with a wood shop here in town. I have no experience but the owner needs a finisher and is having me come in.
Your video has me feeling totally prepared to take on this new job and new skill. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!
Excellent. Clear and simple explanation of a complex subject.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi mate, delighted to see it made it's way to RUclips in the end. Much appreciated and I hope all is well.
Not a problem. The RUclips community has been asking for it as well. Cheers! Scott
Such an awesome video time and time again (every other day)
Thank you!
Great video and i'd love to see one that is even more in depth!
Noted! Thanks! Scott
I ordered the sweet deal TFS has which is their own branded version of this same exact pump set up the CA Tech 14:1 with the TFS logo and comes with the Wagner GM4700. Looking to up my production efficiency after years of air spraying which is still my preference but it has its place. This Video was the exact thing I was looking for on youtube. Best breakdown for anyone making the transition over from HVLP or Airless. I now cannot wait to receive my set up thank you so much!
Yep. I have Ty over at TFS some crap for not doing that sooner. It's a perfect setup at an economical cost. Glad you liked the video. Good look! Scott
You're the GOD! Thank's for your video, you save my life🤦🏽♂️😊
Best wishes from Lithuania! 👍💪
he is a genius! Big thank you from Korea!!!
Great video. Thank you so much for the valuable information. I currently use a preesure pot to spray but have been researching air assist airless. Leaning toward the CA Technologies with either the Bobcat or Cougar spray gun. This information will be of great value in getting set up.
Thank you! I have a CA Technologies 14:1 that I originally ordered with the Bobcat gun, but later replaced the gun with the Wagner GM4700 Aircoat that I used in this demo. It's a great setup! Thanks! Scott
I've been spraying with a CA tech pump for sometime now... thanks to your video I understand how it operates a lot better
Glad I could help
Great video. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience.
You are welcome! Thank you!
Love your videos!!! Keep them coming!!!
thx for ur information and if u can do video explain haw instal spray booth and show us ur painting spray booth and what tip of extractor used
You can spray latex Urethane enamels for cabinets with an hvlp no problem. I've done many jobs with fantastic results. Maybe not lacquer factory finish but really great
Edit: but also great video. You know way more then me by a long shot
Hello Scott
I so wish to thank you for the clarity of your excellent videos!!
So just subscribed and employed the bell.
Greatly impressed by your lower pressure on the wagner air coat.
I would very much like to hear your opinion on a comparison of your preference between the air coat and kremlin excite gun....! Looking for the best quality finish.
Your videos show a lot research and thought! So thank you!!
just jim
Hi, thank you for the kind words! Both the Wagner Aircoat and the Sames Kremlin Airmix Xcite are great guns. There are a couple of differences that set them a part. Kremlin Xcite:
Fluid swivel
Short fluid filter (needs wrench
Tips- regular and fine
Fluid fitting- JIC #5
Air fitting- 1/4" npt
Tip cost $100-120
Gun Cost- $795 (maybe more now)
Wagner GM4700 Aircoat
Fluid swivel
Air swivel
Long contractor style filter
Toolesss filter change
Tips- regular and fine
Fluid fitting-1/4" npt
Air fitting-1/4" npt
Reversible flat tip design
No tip seals
No nozzle o-rings
Tip cost- $80-110
Gun cost- $840-900
For me I saw a 50% reduction in atomizing air going from 20 psi to 10 psi. Both guns were running 700 psi fluid with a 411 tip (0.011"). Hope this helps. Scott
Great video explaining difference between air compressor guns,airless and air assisted airless pumps. Can't find this anywhere else! I much appreciated doing this video!!
Question: I have recently purchased ca technologies
Pump with cougar gun to spray clear water base finish
Wondering if I can just purchase the Wagner gm 4700ac aircoat with another line set and not buy another 14/1 pump to spray pigmented waterbase.
I know you have a few different pumps (Kremlin) (ca technologies)gun setups.
Do you spray different finishes through pump and clean it without contaminating future finish or are they all dedicated single finishes in each setup.
Thanks
Rob
Hi, Thank you! Yes, you can replace your CA Technologies Cougar with the Wagner GM4700 AC gun. the fittings are the same, so no special fittings or hoses required.
Yes, I have dedicated pumps for different finishes:
CA Technologies 14:1 Pump / Wagner GM4700 AC gun-Clear Precat Lacquer
Kremlin 10:14 (10:1) Pump / Kremlin MVX gun-Clear VPrecat Vinyl Sealer
Kremlin 10:14 (10:1) Pump / Wagner GM4700 AC-Precat Primers & Pigmented Precat Lacquers
Kremlin 10:14 (10:1) Pump / Kremlin JX gun-WB Finishes
Thanks! Scott
I only have a small compressor 50ltrs will that matter if i get a pump.? or do i need to get a larger compressor, be great if i didnt need a compressor at all. i spray pre-laquer and pre-cat paint. great video by the way very helpful. im just looking at getting a pump and this help alot.
It all depends on if the pump you get is air driven. If you use an electric airless pump, then the only air required is for the atomizing air. If you use an air driven pump, you'd need to look at the specs if the pump for air consumption. Thanks
Hi can i just buy air compressor and that gun and use with my airless sprayer? If so what size air compressor
Bro, excellent information!
Thank you!
Awesome video Scott. Thanks for the information. I was curious about AAA pumps. Do they run off large compressors or do they have any models that are electric and could be used with a smaller compressor. Most of my work is on site so I was curious. I have been looking at different brands and I know they have portable units but I don’t think they are the same. I am just not sure
Thank you! No large compressor required. In fact CA Technologies makes an air driven pump that is supplied by a small 2 hp onboard compressor with twin tanks, all on a convenient cart for ease of portability. Thanks. Scott
I'm glad I watched the whole video, thank you for this great information.
You are welcome! 😁 Scott
Hi Scott have watched Bradshaw Joinery, another very talented guy, he also has a video on air assisted airless you might enjoy, he’s from our side of the pond,😂😂🇪🇺
Hi Richard, yes I did, thank you. I just came across it about a week or two ago. It was good. Scott
Good information...thanks Scott
Not a problem! Scott
Hi Scott, hope all is well. So is this your go to way of spraying? Also what is the pump set up you are using? Thanks again. Great video. Dana
Hi Dana, yes air assisted airless for all if my primers, sealer, and precat lacquers, clear and pigmented. I'm using in the demo a CA Technologies 14:1 pump. Thanks! Sc
Hi I've got the 4700 gun a Wagner puma 28/40 pump and a Gentilin 330/24l 3hp compressor. I'm spraying Renner 641 base and Renner 760 top coats. I can't seem to get my fluid pressure below 20psi and I see you are spraying at 760. I'm using a 11/40 tip, do you know what I'm doing wrong please
I'm thinking you are referring to 20 psi air pressure? If so, the relationship between fluid and air is not necessarily linear. Lower fluid pressure will often require more atomizing air, and vis versa. Also the coating viscosity plays a part two thicker costings tend to rewire higher pressure to break-up the droplet sizes. Every type of coating has different atomizing characteristics. I'd try a little higher fluid pressure, which should lessen the tails of the pattern which in-turn require less atomizing air. If the 11/40 is to much, try a 09/40 which will reduce the flow slightly but generate smaller droplets. Scott
I second all saying well APPRECIATED, informative and well done. NEXT ONE, please consider a AAA gun comparison (Ie ; I know you have the Kremlin, the CAT and now the Wagner.....be nice to see the diff from them ( and even from more other guns if possible ) from the same settings.....Thks for considering !
Thank you, for sharing knowledge
You are very welcome.
I'm looking into getting an AAA pump as one of my airless died on me. Would you say there is a big disadvantage with a higher ratio pump like a merkur 30:1 AA. I run KemAqua Plus. I have the option to get a used pump and gun at a good price. I also have a Binks AA 1500 gun I never got around to building a system for. Any thoughts. Thanks for the great content over the years.
There's not to many disadvantages to a larger ratio unless you are trying to spray stain where you need a low fluid pressure like 200-300 psi, the pump might not cycle properly at the change over from the strike direction may have a slight hesitation causing a skip or wink in the pattern. The fix would be to add a fluid regulator and fluid pressure gauge to the output of the pump before the fluid hose. If you are planning on spraying more viscus materials such as WB coatings, or pigmented conversion varnishes, the 30:1 will work with plenty to spare.
With today's advanced coatings, if I had to do it all over again I'd be running all 14:1 - 15:1 or greater.
If you use a 30:1, and the fluid pressure you pressure you need doesn't allow it to cycle properly because it's to low, you can always add a fluid pressure regulator and gauge like I mentioned, them you can run the pump pressure up higher and govern your fluid pressure with the fluid pressure regulator. This is very common in a commercial application where a lot of companies pump the coatings from what they call a "paint kitchen" which is a room that they pump all the coatings from out to different parts of the finish room. Hopefully this helps.
@@TheWoodCraftsman thanks for the info. I did wind up picking up the unit as it was a good price and came with the Graco G40 gun and a spare set of lines. It's a merkur pump. I did notice a hesitation on the rod direction switch over but it seemed consistent from 15psi in up to 60 psi in spraying water with a 412 tip. I'm sure once I drop tip a bit with thicker material it will smooth out a bit. Also planning on a rebuild of the seals etc. Ill look into a fluid regulator once the new compressor is setup. I've been running a smaller airless unit with the newer fflp tips running a 412 at about 1000-1100 psi and have gotten good at timing my passes in line with the low pressure cycling of that unit lol. Have you ever used the Binks AA1600M guns?
I've tried the Binks 1600 at my day job, and we ruled it out due to the trigger safety still triggering the gun. I hear they have a soft pattern though.
Hi mate I’m going to attempt spraying pigmented pre cat primer and full gloss through my Wagner 4600 which tip and filter do you recommend for this,
It depends on speed and pressures. I spray my precat primers and pigmented precat lacquers at 700-750 fluid and about 15 atomizing air with a 512 tip.
Hello Scott, Thank You for your video. If you were spraying automotive or linear polyurethane which system would produce a better finish ? AAA or air spray ?
So if you're asking automotive as in repair or repaint a vehicle, AAA is not ideal for many reasons, including the final feel. However, if spraying production, AAA would work well. Most any industrial coating with a potlife of 1 hour or greater would work. The short potlife PUs may not work or feasible due to clean up and waste. One of the biggest advantages is the increased transfer efficiency with speed of an AAA system when setup properly.
The Wood Craftsman Thank You Scott
What's difference between ff lp tips and air coat? And graco has a air assisted airless that uses rac tips instead of flat tips. What's your opinion about that?
The Wagner Aircoat is the same technology as air assisted airless, but just like Kremlin with their Airmix, they decided to name it. For me out of all the different AAA guns I've used with the same coating in the past, the Wagner GM4700 Aircoat has the softest spray pattern using the same tip size and fluid pressures as my others, but using only using about 10 psi atmozing air compared to 17 for my CA Technologies Bobcat and 20 for my Kremlin MIX, all using 700 psi fluid with a 411 tip.
Hi Scot, just purchased the Wagner gm 4700. I ordered it with the blue cap but arrived with red cap. I asked the rep and he said there’s no difference between them both will spray oil or water based. To your knowledge is this correct. Thanks
Your rep might not be educated enough on the Wagner equipment. The red and blue are NOT the same. The red LV aircap is for the low viscosity, and the blue HV is for high viscosity.
I believe if the distributor the orders it from Wagner uses the SKU for a complete gun with an aircap, the default is the red LV. There is also a SKU for a bare gun, which then the aircap is sold separately.
Definitely give it a try with the red cap, you may be surprised.
I have both blue and red for mine that is use for primers and pigmented precat, and I've using the red for both. Scott
@@TheWoodCraftsman Much appreciated. I'll give it a try and see how it goes,
Is there like an info sheet with this kind of info. It is really good info but to remember it all. Lol great video scott
Hi, unfortunately I'm not aware of any, which is the reason I made the video because it's a question that comes up a lot. It's something that an equipment vendor and a coating supplier should be doing jointly, but doesn't always happen. Thanks. Scott
How about tip suggestions for spraying BIN shellac based primer, water based tint base and water based poly? Great video. Very helpful
Hi, thank you. Normally I would but everyone's speed and preference is quite different from one to another. There is an array of coatings out there, and from one manufacturer to another the application characteristics are quite different. This video was just a basic entry level setup on the concept and principle of the AAA system.
I am a cabinet maker and I have a Graco 390 classic, I would like to convert it in Air Assist Airless. What dimension of compressor and Gun you can advise me?
I've had really good luck with the Wagner GM4700 Aircoat gun. A small since your pump is electric, you won't need much air, a small (1-2 HP) compressor with a 10-15 gallon tank would probably work pretty well, since you probably won't need anything more than 30 psi max air for atomizing air. The bigger the compressor and tank the less it will cycle. Hope this helps. Scott
Thx 4 the nice explenation!
You are most certainly welcome.
,fantastic content , or for us metric folks x 5 for centimetres, 4x5 = 20cm wide @30cm distance or 40degrees of angle
Thanks! Scott
Thanks for sharing mate
Not a problem. Glad you like it. Scott
I have a Graco airless sprayer and a separate air compressor for my nail gun. Can I combine the two?
Yes, but I'd advise adding a high pressure fluid gauge and a small air regulator.
Thanks for sharing!
You bet! Scott
hello mate I need information about pump used how it work with or without compresseur thx
Is there an option to get an extention wand for the Gun? I normally use a 24" extention with my airless Graco
You would need to reach out the manufacturer of the gun. Here I was using the Wagner GM4700AC, which I believe they do not make one for this model.
U are the man along with Eric reason
Awww.. thanks!
Brilliant thank you
thanks, I'll try it
Not a problem. You're welcome. Scott
thank you for this video
You are welcome! Scott
Hello i like to know the difference between wagner vs kremlin can you explain that please i just bought kremlin 15:25 thanks for your help!!!
So the Wagner Aircoat (GM4700 AC) and the Kremlin Airmix (Xcite) are both considered to be air assisted airless. The difference is in how they perform. For years I used Kremlin, and last year I came across this Wagner Aircoat for pennys on the dollar and decided to try it, and this is what I saw: Using the same coating, same tip size (orifice and pattern), and same fluid pressure, i cut the atomizing air in half (from 20 PSI to 10 PSI).
My results using SW Sherwood Hi-Bild Precat Lacquer:
-Kremlin MVX (Vx124 aircap)
411 tip (CAT), 700 PSI fluid, 20 PSI atomizing air
-CA Technologies Bobcat
411 tip (CAT), 700 PSI fluid, 17 PSI atomizing air
-Wagner GM4700 AC
411 tip (Wagner), 700 PSI fluid, 10 PSI atomizing air.
For me, I saw a dramatic drop in the air required to complete the pattern and rid the tails. The lower you can keep the atomizing air and fluid pressure, the less bounce back and better transfer efficiency in general.
Individual results may vary.
I am not saying in any way that the Wagner is the best, it's simply the best for me and offers some unique features that are not typically found with other AAA guns. I hope this helps. Scott
@@TheWoodCraftsman so if you have to pick you prefer the wagner!
@@TheWoodCraftsman and what pump r you using?
Do you have a video on how to minimise over spray with an air assisted airless (Graco Merkur 45:1)?
Sorry, I do not. I've found that it a table style turn table tends to influence more overspray if the bottom side is pretty close to the surface. When I changed to a more open turn table, the overspray was pretty much eliminated.
And how is any of this better than just a Graco fine finish tip + airless?
Less pressure and way better tip. Way better finish, transfer rate etc..
thank u
You are welcome! Scott
Awesome video! I’d like to PM you or even call. I am setting up a new finish room soon for my business that builds high end teardrop trailers. I’d love to chat ASAP.
Thank you, please reach out to me via email listed in the "About" tab on my channel. Thanks. Scott
i work for lake city woodworkers and i spry alot of tables and furniture my tip is 511 sould i go begger
It depends on what you are trying to achieve or accomplish. The the bigger the first number, the wider the pattern, the bigger the second two numbers the more will come out. If you are looking for a little more speed, you could go up to a 513. The manufacturer of your gun tips should be able to provide you a tip chart that provides flow rates for each tip size orifice. They're flow rate are typically rated in water at two different pressures. That can give you an idea as to what you are currently using and to something with a little bit more output without making a significant change in you technique.