Great collaboration! I watched all three hours and enjoyed hearing your perspectives on this game that is likely going to shape the hobby in the future
I’m a huge RZR fan, and have really enjoyed all of the Maindeck videos I’ve watched, so this was a blast! Would love to see more collabs in the future.
Bought 5 ks boxes with the kickstarter, got some nice uniques, but no golden booster or promos. Bought 5 more ks boxes recently, and out of those 4 I've opened, I've gotten a golden booster and 3 promos, including the hero I'm building a deck around
I think a bottleneck right now is actually rares, faction shifted or otherwise. I opened 3 boxes and I get maybe 1 playset of faction rares, with over 300 of them it's so tough. With Retail you just get less rares overall.
For sure. I'm mostly curious to see how the Marketplace opening will affect rares! I currently expect them to be fairly cheap to get on the Marketplace, but we'll see if that speculation is right!
I heard the card quality from the retail is a lot worse than KS (which is exceptional imo) would you agree, Dan? I still haven’t opened any retail product.
who told you that? it's possible since retail NA is Ludofact, retail EU + KS is Cartamundi (I figure the retail boosters given at GenCon were Cartamundi)
Man I remember when I owned cards and had hobbies in order to do this magical thing called"play" it and try to evoke this mysterious emotional called "fun". Why does everything have to be value. If you care so much about value don't buy cards at all and put all of your money into stocks and bonds and also quit posting on RUclips or watching RUclips videos because they don't generate you any value. Just go to work sleep and repeat.
Agreed, games are meant to be played. Although there is a point to be had of the secondary market being important to lgs's and to players being able to get the specific singles they need without spending hundreds on boosters. But regardless a good game will typically have all that follow. And equinox I believe is going to incorporate a market section into the app. Value only means something if there are players to grow the game and compete with said cards, without that the game will fall into the abyss like many others before it.
@GoblinReserve Well if you do decide to give it a try - I do think Altered is a very efficient side game. Just pick a faction you like and focus on that and it shouldn't cost much to get rares you need and even find a few decent uniques! But please engage in multiple TCGs responsibly 😅
Without watching, going to say no! There are no real chase pulls in retail boxes. You are paying $100+ for commons, rares, and a couple (likely mid) uniques. Hopefully the next set is improved. Definitely going to be a singles game.
The uniques are the chase pull in either case, outside of extreme hits like Golden Boosters. Check the vid - Despite lower unique pull rates, the boxes are pretty similar without considering extreme rare hits. I think there's plenty of potential for value in both!
@@MaindeckGames Sadly that is not enough especially given they can't be alt art and/or foil. Most uniques will be under $20. These boxes are still going to be a blast for draft, but if I'm a player I'm getting singles. If I'm a collector im getting KS boxes.
@@quickestturtlez5362the thing is with how this game works it's still more worth to buy packs. If you get a card off a pack and scan it with their app you can buy it on demand for more copies. And with uniques since they are quite literally unique only the person that pulls the unique can have more printed. The singles market in this game is gunna be cheap as hell so I'm super excited, the creators have made it as easy as possible for the cards to be readily available
Great collaboration! I watched all three hours and enjoyed hearing your perspectives on this game that is likely going to shape the hobby in the future
I’m a huge RZR fan, and have really enjoyed all of the Maindeck videos I’ve watched, so this was a blast! Would love to see more collabs in the future.
Your wish will be granted!
That Loki is huge, i think stats are underrated, stats are basically what makes you win the game in the end.
Yeah, I think he's awesome!
That herald is sick. The potential stats on that especially if you have monolith is great
It wouldn't go to the reserve the second time since it would be fleeting. Would only get the ability the first time unfortunately
Great stuff. Really like that first unique. Seems like you could fleet something that was asleep as well which doesn’t seem to hard to do.
I got a single KS box and I pulled 21 uniques. Golden booster + 11 others. I feel insanely lucky 😂
WOW that's the best I've heard of - amazing!! Huge congrats!
That cloth dancer is sick. Seems really good for Arjun and Spike
Bought 5 ks boxes with the kickstarter, got some nice uniques, but no golden booster or promos.
Bought 5 more ks boxes recently, and out of those 4 I've opened, I've gotten a golden booster and 3 promos, including the hero I'm building a deck around
Sadly the Herald will only trigger once since it'll be fleeting the second time and won't go to reserve specifically.
Oh good call! I didn't think that through - thank you for the note!
You can very easily give cards anchored or remove fleeting
great pulls! Promo cards are 1 every 170 boosters so it's 1 every 4/5 displays
Fair, I misremembered the number (or I think maybe Jordan told me the wrong number at some point and it stuck in my brain)! Thanks for the correction!
I think a bottleneck right now is actually rares, faction shifted or otherwise. I opened 3 boxes and I get maybe 1 playset of faction rares, with over 300 of them it's so tough. With Retail you just get less rares overall.
For sure. I'm mostly curious to see how the Marketplace opening will affect rares! I currently expect them to be fairly cheap to get on the Marketplace, but we'll see if that speculation is right!
Not liking the qr code printed on the card :/
I was really torn between retail and KS but decided to cash out on KS 😂
I heard the card quality from the retail is a lot worse than KS (which is exceptional imo) would you agree, Dan? I still haven’t opened any retail product.
who told you that? it's possible since retail NA is Ludofact, retail EU + KS is Cartamundi (I figure the retail boosters given at GenCon were Cartamundi)
@@ericlazure yes, the US retail is different from KS card quality wise
@@woundsdrone thinner card stock or bad image quality?
It’s worth it if you have pull videos
Im a bit hesitant to get into the game after missing the kickstarter. The value just doesnt seem to be there in comparrison.
I opened a Ks edition and just had 6 uniques… so for me it’s almost the same…
Man I remember when I owned cards and had hobbies in order to do this magical thing called"play" it and try to evoke this mysterious emotional called "fun".
Why does everything have to be value. If you care so much about value don't buy cards at all and put all of your money into stocks and bonds and also quit posting on RUclips or watching RUclips videos because they don't generate you any value. Just go to work sleep and repeat.
Agreed, games are meant to be played. Although there is a point to be had of the secondary market being important to lgs's and to players being able to get the specific singles they need without spending hundreds on boosters.
But regardless a good game will typically have all that follow. And equinox I believe is going to incorporate a market section into the app. Value only means something if there are players to grow the game and compete with said cards, without that the game will fall into the abyss like many others before it.
Came over from RZR. Shouldn’t have cut the Sigmar content 😅
Hah! Maybe he and I will do a bonus conversation about wargaming at some point!
Great video thank you. Wasn’t into altered at all because of the QR code (and let’s be honest time and money😅). Watching you and Kel gave me an itch😅
@GoblinReserve Well if you do decide to give it a try - I do think Altered is a very efficient side game. Just pick a faction you like and focus on that and it shouldn't cost much to get rares you need and even find a few decent uniques! But please engage in multiple TCGs responsibly 😅
Yeah I’m busy completing my FaB playsets I have no time or money extra right now😅
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Whoa First?! 👀
Don't care. I just want the cards.
😂 give this guy the cards!
@@AnotherHuan hahah
Without watching, going to say no! There are no real chase pulls in retail boxes. You are paying $100+ for commons, rares, and a couple (likely mid) uniques. Hopefully the next set is improved. Definitely going to be a singles game.
The uniques are the chase pull in either case, outside of extreme hits like Golden Boosters. Check the vid - Despite lower unique pull rates, the boxes are pretty similar without considering extreme rare hits. I think there's plenty of potential for value in both!
@@MaindeckGames Sadly that is not enough especially given they can't be alt art and/or foil. Most uniques will be under $20. These boxes are still going to be a blast for draft, but if I'm a player I'm getting singles. If I'm a collector im getting KS boxes.
@@quickestturtlez5362the thing is with how this game works it's still more worth to buy packs. If you get a card off a pack and scan it with their app you can buy it on demand for more copies. And with uniques since they are quite literally unique only the person that pulls the unique can have more printed.
The singles market in this game is gunna be cheap as hell so I'm super excited, the creators have made it as easy as possible for the cards to be readily available