2024 Subaru Impreza RS - POV Driving Impressions

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
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  • @fuze3522
    @fuze3522 Год назад +517

    If they gave it the FA24 2.4l N/A motor from the BRZ and gave it a 6 speed box, it would be worthy of that RS title

    • @subterraneanguitartech
      @subterraneanguitartech Год назад +37

      I would throw down on that car in a heartbeat if it was real.

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste Год назад +21

      ​@@subterraneanguitartech Just curious why, when you could buy a WRX? I can't figure out why they would build something like that when most people who are interested in something like that would either go WRX or BRZ/GR86. Or are you looking for something naturally aspirated that's also AWD?

    • @thegiant17
      @thegiant17 Год назад +23

      Honestly, just a 6 speed would make it worthwhile. Subaru's CVT is GARBAGE. There's literally nothing good I can say about it, and I say that as someone who owns a car with their CVT. I'd honestly take a hit in MPG happily for a swap to a standard automatic or better yet a manual.

    • @fuze3522
      @fuze3522 Год назад +21

      @@thegiant17 My dad has a '19 3.6R Touring. and i love its high torque CVT automatic.. on the highway. attempt to do any high performance driving and it falls apart. But it does get pretty good fuel economy. It is not a performance car transmission in the slightest. If the RS had the WRX's SPT transmission.. maybe it would be a bit better. I really think it needs a 6 speed tho.

    • @SerPurple51
      @SerPurple51 Год назад +1

      ​@@fuze3522I think the biggest gripe with CVT's is they're notoriously unreliable. Especially coming from a Subaru who doesn't have the best reputation for reliability.

  • @devo6704
    @devo6704 Год назад +98

    bro this looks better than the wrx, if they brought back the sti hatch on this body it would've been so sickkkk

  • @ken_in_atx9619
    @ken_in_atx9619 Год назад +148

    As an owner of a 2018 Forester XT, it’s so weird how Subaru sees “sport trim” as tacky red accents. They stripped the turbo from the 2019 Forester and added the red trim.

    • @Unchainedmaple888
      @Unchainedmaple888 Год назад +16

      Better than how Sport means gaudy yellow/gold accents all over the Crosstrek lol

    • @kylehurlbrink
      @kylehurlbrink Год назад +1

      Cheaper for the manufacturer to produce.

    • @boygonewhoopdataZZ
      @boygonewhoopdataZZ Год назад +7

      Toyota TURD has entered the chat

    • @ryanchandler6451
      @ryanchandler6451 Год назад +1

      One of the last good subaru's built. Good job. I drive a 17 xt and it's seen both oceans twice. Only part I hate is no hood scoop, so everyone just thinks it's a forester "sport".

    • @hontonix1413
      @hontonix1413 Год назад +1

      @@Unchainedmaple888 I agree! I was wanting to buy Sport Crosstrek, but after seeing that yellow accents, I decided to just go for Premium model

  • @YocoWheelin
    @YocoWheelin Год назад +97

    Being a Subaru fan for over a decade, and have owning a RS coupe back in the day I’m glad how harsh you were on this. Subaru missed the mark and they need to know it.

  • @Panzil
    @Panzil Год назад +138

    I gotta lie I'm really impressed.

    • @jdeltaruff
      @jdeltaruff Год назад +14

      Hold up... can't tell if you mistyped or meant that 😂

    • @Panzil
      @Panzil Год назад +39

      @@jdeltaruff I meant exactly what I said. 😅

    • @thegiant17
      @thegiant17 Год назад +7

      You took the words right out of @thetopher 's mouth.

    • @viveksoty
      @viveksoty Год назад +3

      🤣

    • @ducatil-twin3379
      @ducatil-twin3379 Год назад +2

      hahaaa

  • @BahhJustaLamb
    @BahhJustaLamb Год назад +46

    I had a similar impression of this car. I felt that it really needed perhaps a revised version of the BRZ engine making ~220 HP. Not sure how many of you remember, but in 2009 Subaru had basically three performance Imprezas. The WRX and STI of course, but also the "Impreza 2.5GT". It had the old WRX's 220 or so HP whereas the incoming WRX jumped to 265. I think that rather than going with a 180HP 2.4RS, they could have had a 2.4GT. I suspect it would sell vastly better in this configuration rather than as it is now.
    The WRX base can be had AT MSRP (or less) for about $31,000. I negotiated a Premium with keyless entry, STI short throw and the bigger screen for only about $32,000 despite MSRP being $34,000. That makes a WRX Premium only about $3,000 more than the Impreza RS. For that $3,000, I gained 80lb/ft of torque and 90 HORSEPOWER, as well as a true performance car suspension setup. If there was a 220HP Impreza 2.4GT available in auto and manual for $29,000, I suspect it would start eating into Civic Si sales in no time. Subaru already has an N/A 4cyl that can make over 200HP with an excellent powerband. Had they used such a design for a sport compact, it would be a game changer in today's market.
    As is, if you MUST have a hatch, the Crosstrek is the better choice, as it's available with the same engine for not really more money, and has the benefit of offroad-capable ground clearance.

    • @bsr6823
      @bsr6823 Год назад +2

      Same just leased a premium WRX for the base model price. Would not think of getting the RS with the current spec

    • @AkinaCelica
      @AkinaCelica 7 месяцев назад

      Not everyone wants the high ground clearance, some of us still love hatchbacks and sedan's and the previous gen Impreza is a much better car

    • @BahhJustaLamb
      @BahhJustaLamb 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@AkinaCelicaI'm in that camp myself. That's why I wish this car just had a bit more grunt.

    • @AkinaCelica
      @AkinaCelica 7 месяцев назад

      @@BahhJustaLamb I feel like Subaru are losing their identity.
      The new Impreza looks horrible, as does obviously the Crosstrek and so does the Forester now too.
      I love all Subaru's not just fast ones and the previous cars are so much nicer. The only good looking Subaru's now are the Levorg, WRX and BRZ

  • @stevenr1354
    @stevenr1354 Год назад +20

    Nice review. Thanks for talking me out of it. I'll stick with a Civic hatchback if I can find one at MSRP.

  • @horNNN_
    @horNNN_ Год назад +92

    They shoulda gave us this in WRX form.

    • @taelee347
      @taelee347 Год назад +8

      Yep.. just steal the whole WRX drivetrain and put it in here. Heck, detune it if you have to call it an RS/GT whatever so they don't "compete" with the WRX name.

    • @Konformation07
      @Konformation07 Год назад +6

      ​@@taelee347 Or they can just give us the Levorg

    • @davidsucks922
      @davidsucks922 Год назад +6

      I've been thinking about this and how putting the WRX engine in stuff like the Crosstrek or the Forester would be such an easy slam dunk that there must be some reason they're not doing it.... then I saw the WRX gets EPA rating of 21mpg avg. I almost guarantee the only reason they're not putting it in other cars is because of fleet average MPG laws... that being said I honestly think they should scrap the sedan WRX and use the hatch body instead, they're going for the utilitarian look anyways might as well make it actually useful

    • @brandongrover1168
      @brandongrover1168 Год назад +5

      A WRX hatch would sell like bonkers. I know I'd trade mine in for one

    • @growingup4487
      @growingup4487 Год назад +3

      @@brandongrover1168 no it wouldn't

  • @Aerodynamicz1
    @Aerodynamicz1 Год назад +24

    Really just wish they offered a manual

    • @Josh.Davidson
      @Josh.Davidson Год назад

      Maybe they'll listen like Toyota did with the Supra and add it back.

  • @jjacob25101
    @jjacob25101 Год назад +3

    Very good points. The stereo sounds pretty good on my phone and nice earbuds, but the optional package has the power seat, sunroof and Harman Kardon stereo, which like you stated must be even better.

  • @user-hq4pj4cu7g
    @user-hq4pj4cu7g Год назад +2

    I love watching your videos! Like you're the go to person when I'm looking into buying a car! Your videos are just so full of information and fun to watch! Thank you for your amazing content!

  • @CapFlipGaming
    @CapFlipGaming Год назад +41

    Loved my 2014 a few years ago. Not sure this has enough power to keep me happy though. But they are fantastic commuter cars. They are incredible in the snow as well.

    • @paul3180
      @paul3180 Год назад +2

      I have a 2013 Sport that I love, had it 10 years this week, the lack of power is really the only downside to the car. Especially when I live a mile above sea level. An Impreza Sport with a manual and the engine out of the new BRZ is what Subaru needs to build for us.

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste Год назад +2

      @@paul3180 Just curious why, when you could buy a WRX? I can't figure out why they would build something like that when most people who are interested in something like that would either go WRX or BRZ/GR86. Or are you looking for something naturally aspirated that's also AWD?

    • @LillaVya
      @LillaVya Год назад +1

      I have a 2015, and I absolutely love it. Never gotten stuck anywhere, gas mileage is pretty good too, but it feels a bit lacking in power at times. I'm super glad I got the 5-speed in it because it made the car 10x as fun to drive, but I'm pretty sad to notice that Subaru seems to want to can the manual transmissions for newer entry-level cars

    • @canadious6933
      @canadious6933 Год назад

      @@hhaste Price of an impreza is like half that of a wrx where I live on the used market and the impreza has half the amount of use than the wrx.

  • @anthonyfernando14
    @anthonyfernando14 Год назад +6

    Thank you for all your videos Topher you’re the man

  • @BigAltimaEnergy719
    @BigAltimaEnergy719 Год назад +43

    Unfortunately Subaru stopped caring about their enthusiast customers when they announced the discontinuation of the STI cars…

    • @lilmoris1
      @lilmoris1 Год назад +13

      Turns out "enthusiast customers" didn't buy them either. A company has to make money.

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste Год назад +7

      That's simply not true. They're going to continue it soon, with something else. It will most likely be a hybrid based performance car. They've already filed for trademarks using the name called "STe". If they didn't care about enthusiasts, they wouldn't make models of the Crosstrek like the Wilderness. It's a different kind of enthusiast but still, enthusiast. The WRX is nearly equally as good as the former STi. The only thing it's missing is Brembo's, basically. Performance wise, it's equal.

    • @BigAltimaEnergy719
      @BigAltimaEnergy719 Год назад

      @@hhaste Making the “STe” as a WRX with cvt and hybrid system is blasphemy to most Subaru enthusiasts

    • @dannytse8767
      @dannytse8767 Год назад +1

      @@lilmoris1 Being a small automaker, Subaru needs funding to make the jump to EVs. It is already having a hard time delivering hybrids. Can't rely on Toyota forever.

    • @M3vilDaygo
      @M3vilDaygo Год назад

      The new WRX is a de tuned sti. 350 hp with access port and bolt ons. enthusiasts would know this. Gas is not going to best electric in performance. So why waste the money? The law is enforcing electric vehicles. An enthusiast would know. 🤷‍♂️

  • @mickeybrumfield764
    @mickeybrumfield764 Год назад +20

    You can buy a Legacy premium for less money and get 35mpg not 33mpg with the same engine.

    • @mushieslushie
      @mushieslushie 4 месяца назад

      People that complain it's not available as a sedan don't remember the legacy exists.

  • @tpolerex7282
    @tpolerex7282 Год назад +11

    It’s a solid handling, stiff chassis, great riding, good power, quiet and comfortable, feature filled AWD hatch. It’s not a WRX hatch but neither was the original RS. I drove a new, ‘99 RS coupe, for a week courtesy of my buddy owning a Subaru dealership. It is what sold me on the brand buying an ‘02 WRX wagon a couple years later. This seems to fulfill most of the qualities of the original, albeit less cool and no manual. This works for me, but I’m keeping the WRX.

  • @jasonmoyer
    @jasonmoyer Год назад +36

    This and the Wilderness Crosstrek would be fun dailies if they came with a stick. It's sad when even Subaru are abandoning manual transmissions in their entry level cars.

    • @lilmoris1
      @lilmoris1 Год назад

      Manuals are completely irrelevant these days. DCT's are superior.

    • @boygonewhoopdataZZ
      @boygonewhoopdataZZ Год назад +5

      I hate this kind of talk like why even bring it up when you're not going to buy a new Manuel car? 😂

    • @dannytse8767
      @dannytse8767 Год назад +5

      @@boygonewhoopdataZZ Come on, most of the people posting comments are not buying any new cars. Subaru or otherwise. After all, talk is cheaper than buying a new car.

    • @RatAvenue
      @RatAvenue Год назад

      Lol no one cross-shopping a cross trek and Impreza cares about a manual. There’s a reason manufacturers are moving on to autos and CVTs, because no one buys NEW manual cars.

    • @K03sport
      @K03sport 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@boygonewhoopdataZZ ... I tried to buy, or at least look at a manual Crosstrek in 2019. The nearest one to me (here in SW Ohio) was more than 300 miles away and it was a base model. The nearest Premium manual Crosstrek was more than 500 miles away. I bought my 6th choice, a manual WRX. Subaru killed it themselves with low availability.

  • @Phiz787
    @Phiz787 8 месяцев назад +3

    I find this car to be the perfect Niche. Yes, it isn't what the enthusiast hopes and dreams desire. It's not a turbo Impreza. 5 Speed. Hatchback WRX. But it has excellent handling, is a better value than the crosstrek for an urban commuter and the gas mileage is still good. My wife needs a car soon and this is the one. Light, nimble, easy to park, safe to drive in PNW. 10/10 for our needs.

    • @chrisrader8547
      @chrisrader8547 14 дней назад

      Similar reasons for why I bought one. I liked it just fine. I’ve owned a WRX, and this is not that, obviously. But, for what it does and what my needs are, I am content.

  • @phungcanhngo
    @phungcanhngo 10 месяцев назад +1

    It looks so beautiful!

  • @corrodesthefilm
    @corrodesthefilm Год назад +4

    11:39 nice save

  • @zooropa8297
    @zooropa8297 Год назад +7

    RS gets HK stereo but it’s an option package

  • @igknyte
    @igknyte Год назад +8

    I really really hate Subarus infotainment and air controls now.. it requires extra attention to change where you want the airflow while driving. Bring back the knobs!

  • @Mike.Macmyazka
    @Mike.Macmyazka Год назад +17

    Well I was excited when I initially heard RS was making a comeback. I had hoped for a little more power than the other 2.5 cars. But they clearly aren’t marketing it the same as the old days. It looks great and the feature set is good enough with the exception of the audio. Wish it had a little better system or an option for upgrade. One last thought. A little bit more spoiler would make it look even better. Guess I will have to see it in person and maybe drive it to see if it’s worth the money to me. First impression for the money is not worth it. Sadly.

    • @K03sport
      @K03sport 8 месяцев назад

      ... and gold wheels. can't forget the gold wheels.

    • @Mike.Macmyazka
      @Mike.Macmyazka 8 месяцев назад

      @@K03sport I’ve purchased aftermarket wheels for every car I have owned since 2007 so that doesn’t even matter. Not to mention that not all 2.5 RS had gold wheels back then. That is the same to me as choosing a paint color. Doesn’t really matter.

  • @neometalx9
    @neometalx9 Год назад +27

    Subaru obsession with CVT gotta stop...
    I think it's gonna stop when they go all electric lol

    • @chaarleess
      @chaarleess Год назад

      Electric cars don't have gear ratios 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @ReyaadGafur
      @ReyaadGafur Год назад

      @@chaarleess CVT dont either.

    • @maxd4968
      @maxd4968 Год назад

      It’s less an obsession more it’s there only option

    • @neometalx9
      @neometalx9 Год назад +1

      @@chaarleess that's why they'll stop by then, because it won't have a transmission... Lol

    • @ShockinglyBleh
      @ShockinglyBleh Год назад

      I think Subaru will be bought out by Toyota by then lol.

  • @SHiFTDI3S3L
    @SHiFTDI3S3L Год назад +2

    It needs a manual. It has to be possible. MCM took a Levorg and swapped it to manual without a peep from the ECU. They were lucky that there were interior bits that could be swapped in. If the same is true for this car, it has to be possible, it just has to be done.

  • @scene4dummies
    @scene4dummies Год назад +3

    Oof. I was so excited reading this title as I didn't even know Subaru released this, but man, Subaru just continues to drop the ball. I've owned a '98 Impreza, '02 WRX, '04 WRX, '11 WRX, and '18 STI. Finally left Subaru in '21, and I don't think I'll be buying another one anytime soon (most certainly not a newer one). I'm looking at getting another vehicle later this year, and if I stick with the $30kish price point I'll likely go with the Civid hatchback at this point.

  • @Ben-bs4od
    @Ben-bs4od Год назад +7

    Love this car. Just wish there were a little more power. But it's almost perfect. Wish the Corolla had an AWD hybrid with the same engine as the Corolla Cross hybrid. That would be good competition for this.

    • @chucktownattack
      @chucktownattack 10 месяцев назад +2

      I was literally deciding between these two cars and the Mazda and WRX of course.
      Went with the RS. No regrets in this market- car shopping was absolutely miserable this time around. Coof disease changed the whole process.

  • @godwhomismike
    @godwhomismike Год назад

    Thank you. This video opened my eyes and I am now second thinking getting a 2024 Crosstrek Limited (given that the Crosstrek/Impreza share most of the same interior and mechanical components). Maybe I should reconsider the Crosstrek and aim for getting the Forester Wilderness instead this summer.

    • @MillVillage
      @MillVillage Год назад +1

      The Forester Wilderness doesn't have the turbo engine like the Outback Wilderness unfortunately.

  • @moonwolf975
    @moonwolf975 Год назад +2

    So basically the only improvements from the 2020 Sport are more power, and wireless carplay / charging, and a temperature gauge
    But now you have to deal with: disabling start stop every time, no manual ebrake, bad / laggy infotainment (wasn't an issue on 2020 since it was barely used), and is missing manual buttons, no sedan model, no manual option, weird placed cupholder / place for your phone, more costly, apparently a bump on the pedal
    At that point buy a brz, civic, or mazda 3

  • @benmorris7276
    @benmorris7276 Год назад +1

    Hopefully there ends up being a much better aftermarket for the RS model

  • @hpowlman9114
    @hpowlman9114 Год назад

    I have a 13 impreza hatchback sport limited I might just keep it. It would be cool if the 24 had the red lights in the interior

  • @tempestofruin
    @tempestofruin Год назад +8

    My biggest complaint is that these car companies shove every control of HVAC and what not into the screen.

    • @djSmokeShow
      @djSmokeShow Год назад +2

      I agree, that's why I love my 2023 BRZ, ALL of the AC controls are physical knobs and buttons and they are really good ones to boot.

    • @tempestofruin
      @tempestofruin Год назад +2

      @@djSmokeShow I'm fine with pretty much all other controls kn the screen, just not HVAC!

  • @aliniazi2002
    @aliniazi2002 Год назад +83

    182hp with no manual option. Proper NPC car for the masses badged to make it look sporty.

  • @davesmith5092
    @davesmith5092 Год назад +9

    I really wish they'd bring back the WRX wagon and put a goddamn six speed in there again.

  • @djSmokeShow
    @djSmokeShow Год назад +12

    I have a new BRZ and a Legacy and can't help but feel like this RS is a huge miss. It should have had the more powerful 2.4 BRZ motor and a six speed option, ESPECIALLY for that price point.

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste Год назад

      I agree but also, why when you could just buy a WRX? It wouldn't be this price point if I had the 2.4 and 6 speed, definitely higher.

    • @djSmokeShow
      @djSmokeShow Год назад +2

      @@hhaste Both my BRZ and my Legacy were 30k a piece. I'm no expert, but based on that I feel that Subaru could have put the 2.4 in the RS and sold it for the same price. And the reason for wanting that configuration over the WRX (awesome car) is because an AWD hatch with a strong naturally aspirated engine would be pretty cool. It's actually not my cup of tea either way, just sharing my thoughts. Overall Subaru is putting out some great vehicles.

  • @acrain7
    @acrain7 Год назад +11

    Why no manual?! The previous gen’s manual was simply fantastic, a proper direct linkage gearbox that instantly put a smile on your face even with the rev hang and no sway bar on a base model.

    • @BigAltimaEnergy719
      @BigAltimaEnergy719 Год назад +4

      They stuck with old school 5 speed for a long time, it would’ve been better with a 6 speed because of shorter gear ratios and additional overdrive gear

    • @v8_sami
      @v8_sami Год назад +5

      Because America… everyone wants bigger cars and automatics/cvts. Manuals just don’t sell enough

    • @BigAltimaEnergy719
      @BigAltimaEnergy719 Год назад +2

      @@v8_sami most of the manual sold are in mostly performance cars not so much in regular cars

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste Год назад

      @@v8_sami Manuals sell fine, it just doesn't make any sense in a car like this.

    • @chrislim7976
      @chrislim7976 Год назад +5

      Probably because the 5 people here that say they would buy one didn't.

  • @lucasputrakul4365
    @lucasputrakul4365 Год назад +2

    Man, those wheels look so similar to the stock wheels that are one the Wrx lol

  • @RitzDoesLetsBuilds
    @RitzDoesLetsBuilds Год назад +1

    Its crazy to me they gave this the option to change drive mode but not my 2023 Touring XT - I dont understand why I cant have the function of sport # mode in a bigger engine.

  • @chrisrader8547
    @chrisrader8547 14 дней назад +1

    I chose this over the Crosstrek because I am tired of black plastic cladding. And, I wanted a car, not a CUV. I don’t live on a dirt road, I don’t do the off-road thing or care to. Hence, I don’t need the extra ground clearance the Crosstrek offers.

  • @user-yi4to3bl1b
    @user-yi4to3bl1b Год назад +1

    Nice the new mazda 3

  • @stels39rus
    @stels39rus Год назад +2

    New Prius, for the same price, faster than that piece of marketing😂😢

  • @cookiebhy8610
    @cookiebhy8610 Год назад +2

    the big laggy screen on the new suabrus is the only thing stopping me buying a subaru

  • @Baebon6259
    @Baebon6259 Год назад +16

    Subaru screwed this up by not adding a manual to this.

  • @aintrxiden
    @aintrxiden Год назад +2

    god that infotainment system looks like my 2012 samsung galaxy s3

  • @mrb401
    @mrb401 Год назад +8

    MT and oem roof rails. Then I’d only think about it.
    Although for snow regions, this might be a decent a to b awd daily in a couple yrs or so in the used market.

  • @kidnamedfinger6323
    @kidnamedfinger6323 4 месяца назад

    Glad to see Subaru is putting a true engine temp gauge in there.
    Also, it's disappointing Subaru didn't rework the seat positioning. I drive a 2022 Impreza and feel the seat could go lower even when it's at the lowest setting. And that's when i'm only 5'11".

  • @harris7963
    @harris7963 Год назад +2

    Have any clue when the 2024 BRZ will be out too?

  • @Waxxumus
    @Waxxumus Год назад +4

    Man they didnt even put an AT on it?!
    WTF A CVT?!

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste Год назад

      CVT in this car is better than anything else.. and I hate CVT's.

  • @TheCldmstrsn
    @TheCldmstrsn Год назад +5

    I love this! we have a 2019 sport impreza hatch and absolutely adore it. Will most likely trade that in for this, nice power bump too.

    • @dannytse8767
      @dannytse8767 Год назад +2

      I went from a '19 Crosstrek Premium (same 2 liter engine as your '19 Impreza Sport) to a '21 Crosstrek Sport (same engine as the Impreza RS) and the difference is very noticeable.

  • @dfk09
    @dfk09 Год назад

    I love hatchbacks/liftbacks....

  • @Mouzourakism
    @Mouzourakism 9 месяцев назад

    Gotta love Michigan roads

  • @user-cy1ru4cg2s
    @user-cy1ru4cg2s Год назад +3

    Manual transmission please!!! Otherwise, not interested. I miss my 2004. 😢

  • @tylerrynberg
    @tylerrynberg Год назад +15

    I know that Topher only compared the Impreza price vs. other Subarus, but a Civic Hatchback blows this thing out of the water for the same price...just get snow tires for winter if needed.

    • @benjamindoyle668
      @benjamindoyle668 Год назад +5

      So does the AWD Mazda 3 which is a better car in so many ways

    • @robob221
      @robob221 Год назад +2

      not at all. The Subaru can do winter without winter tires or slip all over then place when it rains. I just test drove a new civic sport and it drives like a front wheel drive car. Subaru is for people that like driving a AWD car for its constant traction everywhere.

    • @tylerrynberg
      @tylerrynberg Год назад

      @@robob221 that's nonsense. A FWD car with dedicated winter tires will handle snow/ice better than an AWD car on all seasons. Not sure what you mean by saying a Civic drives like a FWD...the Subaru Impreza understeers at least as much as a Civic at the limit. I grew up in Western Michigan with lake effect snow and did just fine without AWD.

    • @robob221
      @robob221 Год назад +1

      @@tylerrynberg I am not down playing the ability of winters tires, what I am saying is that if the rear wheels can drive you will have more control in snow and rain, that is physics. This is not an argument, winter tires are absolutely necessary on FWD when you want to get home in confidence for a reason, not the case for AWD. I am contemplating the importance of full time AWD myself as I am cross shopping a Mazda 3 awd, Impreza RS, and civic SI. I only get snow 30-60 days out of the year so for the most part, rain is really the enemy for spirited driving. That's where AWD shows its strength when you turn the wheel and accelerate. Other than that, the "on demand" system in the Mazda may be a great middle ground.

    • @KG-kq9tk
      @KG-kq9tk День назад

      @robob221. "That's
      physics". Bro, you are
      so fundamentally
      wrong about this, yet so
      confident. AWD helps
      with getting power to all
      4 wheels, but that has
      ZERO to do with
      traction or stopping
      power. Lookup any
      number of countless
      articles abd videos
      explaining the actual
      physics of this. TIRES
      are what matter,
      overwhelmingly, for
      winter driving. Because
      they are the point of
      contact on the slippery
      road. Front and back
      wheel drive cars with
      winter tires are
      absolutely safer in
      slippery conditions than
      any AWD vehicle not
      using winter tires. That
      AWD drive means
      nothing when trying to
      grip the road or come to
      a stop with tires that
      literally can't grip the
      road nearly as well.
      AWD helps in deeper
      snow or sand to
      accelerate or get over
      obstacles. It helps with
      overall handling. But
      tires are what REALLY
      matter for gripping. You are right that
      this is not an argument,
      but you are the one who
      is losing that argument.
      Its physics.

  • @RawieRozay
    @RawieRozay Год назад +3

    Why can't Subaru just call it a day and put the 2.4L turbo in this? This looks way better than the WRX to me.

  • @KingTempIar
    @KingTempIar Год назад

    @TheTopher Quick side question but steering wheels like this or the BRZ which are leather wrapped. What have you been treating yours with in terms of oil or just water to protect or clean the surface?

  • @canadious6933
    @canadious6933 Год назад +2

    Awesome! Thank you for sharing, I was checking this car out for maybe my future car. Maybe

    • @The2004STi
      @The2004STi Год назад

      Just buy an Impreza for less money, it's the same thing basically. $29k for some badges 😂

    • @canadious6933
      @canadious6933 Год назад +1

      @@The2004STi I actually own an Impreza. I like the car a lot, but my biggest complaint is 148hp just ain't enough. But I don't want something that takes supreme gas either, so the impreza RS is a nice middle ground.

  • @MatthewGaither
    @MatthewGaither Год назад +2

    I'm glad Subaru is giving us a sportier trim of the Impeza and I do like the way this one looks. It's a shame though that most of the extra sportiness is just appearance based and not in the actual hardware or perforrmance.

    • @jacksonlandry4797
      @jacksonlandry4797 Год назад +1

      yeah, subaru has done an awful job with sport trims for the past couple years. I have a 2020 impreza sport and the only sport features are the tuned CVT with automated shifts, a sport mode, and a red accented interior. Still has 152hp and 145 lb/ft. of torque. It's mind-blowingly slow

    • @nbain66
      @nbain66 Год назад

      ​@@jacksonlandry4797my 2004 Legacy had 13 more hp and 20 more torque

  • @HobbesWiilTakeGoodCareOfYou
    @HobbesWiilTakeGoodCareOfYou Год назад +2

    When I think of RS, I think of fast car trims like a Ford ST product or what Porsche does with their RS cars. These automakers slapping "RS" on their cars for no reason with 0 performance changes/benefits is really stale.

  • @00TPOTTER
    @00TPOTTER Год назад +2

    Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see much reason to get this over a Mazda3 hatch AWD. Mazda has the better fit and finish, infotainment, not a CVT, more power, etc.

    • @armodudegiantfan
      @armodudegiantfan Год назад +1

      You're not missing anything. The mazda3 and the Civic are infinitely better than this

  • @jpringle1290
    @jpringle1290 Год назад +5

    That interior looks like it was from 2012

  • @Demonhellcat492
    @Demonhellcat492 Год назад +2

    Why don't they offering with torque converter?

  • @VectorAero
    @VectorAero Год назад

    When you turn off Vehicle Dynamics Control, is it actually fully disabled or will it still interfere at the limit?

  • @DavidDLee
    @DavidDLee Год назад +3

    Test drove the 2L back in 2021. It had sufficient power, but the seatback was not agreeable to my back.
    I've been eyeing the Impreza since 2011, but never got one. It was always slow, had oil consumption issue back in 2012, and always a compromise.
    Unless they come out with a good PHEV or EV, it will never happen.

  • @ContactFault
    @ContactFault Год назад

    I have a 2018 civic sport CVT with 182bhp wonder how they compare.

  • @cryxbaby2250
    @cryxbaby2250 8 месяцев назад

    I like that everyone gets in a car and says oh this is slow what a shitty car haha.

  • @masonranalla9405
    @masonranalla9405 Год назад +2

    From the side reminds me of like a ford focus hatch/RS/ST

    • @iakpwnzjoolol
      @iakpwnzjoolol Год назад

      except those actually made good power, unlike subarus

  • @Bohvey
    @Bohvey Год назад +3

    My Outback Wilderness has the 2.4L turbo. Really like it, very responsive. Every Subaru I have driven without the turbo has felt sluggish. The 2.5 felt like it has no power if you were already rolling at 65 on the highway. Really hoping this comes with the turbo in the next few years and I will pick one up.

    • @dannytse8767
      @dannytse8767 Год назад

      Really? When I had an Outback with the turbo as a service loaner, I thought it was sluggish in the lower rpm and only wakes up when the turbo gets going. My Crosstrek Sport (with the same 2.5 liter as the Impreza RS) is a lot more responsive in comparison.

    • @Bohvey
      @Bohvey Год назад +1

      @@dannytse8767 Interesting. I just got the 2023 so maybe it’s been improved? When I test drove the Crosstrek it felt really sluggish entering the highway and if I tried to pass it was pretty much not happening. Are you sure you drove an Outback with the turbo. To my knowledge only the XT and Wilderness have them. The 2.4L turbo has been really responsive and my take offs from a stop can be ridiculous if I actually want to gas it.

    • @dannytse8767
      @dannytse8767 Год назад

      @@Bohvey It was definitely an Outback XT since the Outback Wilderness hasn't been introduced back then. I was surprised but I do think there is a certain amount of getting used to an unfamiliar powertrain. When I first got my Crosstrek Sport, I didn't think the 20% increase in horsepower and torque made much of a difference. However, over time, I definitely notice the difference.

    • @Bohvey
      @Bohvey Год назад +2

      @@dannytse8767 The 2.5L in the Crosstrek has a 182 HP and 178 lb-ft of torque. The 2.4L turbo Boxer has 260 HP and 277 lb-ft of torque in the Outback. I’m shocked that didn’t feel different but at the end of the day it sounds like we are both happy with our Subarus. I just really want another hot hatch like the old WRX. When that happens, I’ll be trading in the Outback.

  • @spathotan
    @spathotan Год назад +6

    I can already see these slugging around town at 11/10ths driven by guys who couldnt afford a WRX. That RS badging will be truly empowering.
    Great review as always Topher

    • @curiosityredpill7030
      @curiosityredpill7030 Год назад

      You sound like a pocket watcher worrying about what others can afford on not afford that’s the problem wrong with world ppl always looking down at others!

    • @upperleftnorthwest4278
      @upperleftnorthwest4278 Год назад

      I swear i always see previous gen crosstreks speeding everywhere in oregon & wonder how people are able to do it with 140 hp haha

    • @DeathProfessor
      @DeathProfessor Год назад +2

      Yeah how dare they enjoy the car they spent money on. They should've gotten the car with even more power, so they have to use even less of it on the streets. Otherwise elitists may talk shit about them online. That would matter so much

  • @sebastiantello44
    @sebastiantello44 Год назад +1

    nice mazda 3 hatch

  • @avery4528
    @avery4528 Год назад +4

    $29k for an Impreza with a 2.5L is disgusting. Worth $23k

    • @stayphun6188
      @stayphun6188 Год назад

      Seems like you guys finally get a little taste of car prices in Europe

  • @lhrocker
    @lhrocker Год назад

    What AWD vehicle would you compare as a better value? Thanx!

  • @orberator
    @orberator Год назад +14

    This model with the 22+ WRX engine, a manual transmission, and an older infotainment would've been a perfect car imo. Ah man the missed opportunity...

    • @McSteveIrwin
      @McSteveIrwin Год назад +3

      Isn't that what we all want
      Just a gosh dang wrx hatchback

    • @v8_sami
      @v8_sami Год назад +2

      @@McSteveIrwin apparently everyone wants one now that it’s gone….

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste Год назад

      Why? At that point, just buy a WRX lol..

  • @GingkoMister
    @GingkoMister Год назад +3

    180hp with that average fuel economy?
    Put a CVT in a RS and 29k? Subaru are out of their mind

  • @gati54uri094
    @gati54uri094 Год назад +1

    Unfortunately that subaru doesn't have dual clutch gearbox. But that impreza RS must be 6 speed manual.

  • @henrik1743
    @henrik1743 Год назад +1

    Damn they really killed their impreza heritage huh

  • @NathanTagalicorn12345
    @NathanTagalicorn12345 Год назад

    Its model code starts with GU, but I can't find the full model code.

  • @Twikkilol
    @Twikkilol Год назад +3

    My 2009 impreza looks more premium than this almost.. At least with the plastics etc. Hope they more cars like this though!

    • @JonathanVaucher
      @JonathanVaucher 9 месяцев назад

      I feel the same. I own a gen 3 2008 Impreza Sport 2.5i Manual 5Dr hatchback (170HP) and a 2021 STi base model Sedan (310 HP). I kept the 2008 hatch because it's very practical for the space in the trunk (for example if I go to Ikea or I need to pick up bulky stuff) while still being fun to drive with the manual 5 speed and a 2.5 liter N/A 4 cyl. The STI is a blast in comparison to the 2.5i, but I don't want to drive the STI too often in the salty rustbelt during winter time and the sedan trunk is really not as practical, so I'm keeping the 2008 2.5i Hatch for winter and for transporting bulky stuff. I wish they had made the 2024 RS with a manual transmisson... at the very least a 5 speed if not a 6 speed. I'm thinking the 182 HP of the 2024 RS must feel quite anemic with a CVT transmission.

  • @wtfx5757
    @wtfx5757 Год назад +3

    RS? LOL, not this one boys

  • @gramb5611
    @gramb5611 Год назад

    Why would you want to turn off the lane departure warning ?

  • @immanuelingari4336
    @immanuelingari4336 Год назад

    Should I get this or a Nissan rogue?🤔

  • @dustinbarnes1211
    @dustinbarnes1211 Год назад +1

    @thetopher, is that an Omega Speedmaster?

  • @MrJoe-wd4lz
    @MrJoe-wd4lz Год назад +2

    The 2024 model is supposed to be quieter than the 2023 model; did you notice a difference in noise reduction?

    • @TheTopher
      @TheTopher  Год назад +1

      Definitely, noticeably less road/wind noise

  • @tedskins
    @tedskins 4 месяца назад

    I just bought a base model Impreza the other day. I test drove the RS and it just looked "sportier", but the drive wasn't any different from the bade model. Wasn't worth the extra money in my opinion, so I stuck with the base model

  • @Montana270
    @Montana270 Год назад +1

    I'm really looking forward to the crosstreck wilderness review!

  • @markthibault8579
    @markthibault8579 Год назад +3

    Desperately needs the manual. If they offered it, it would completely change the character of the car.

    • @richardwilliams6256
      @richardwilliams6256 Год назад +1

      true but people dont buy manuals, people always say that but no one actually goes out and buys one in support of Subaru.

    • @JonathanVaucher
      @JonathanVaucher 9 месяцев назад

      @richardwilliams6256 Just bought a 2021 STi MANUAL TRANSMISSION in 2023 because I did'nt want a CVT impreza with the anemic 152HP 2.0i base impreza. Only americans/canadians don't buy manuals... In Europe, manuals are still the rage !

  • @stylomuerto9311
    @stylomuerto9311 Год назад +1

    So it became a smaller mazda CX5 on the outside

  • @darepool4416
    @darepool4416 Год назад

    I just hope it’s not as slow as last gen and it gets a sedan version

  • @jasonmok4110
    @jasonmok4110 Год назад +1

    Would’ve pick up a cx5 or crosstrek for this money…

  • @richardwilliams6256
    @richardwilliams6256 Год назад +1

    Sad to see Subaru fading away but they deserve some of this. No manual transmission and this bs powerplant. No thanks, they can keep this. The only good thing they did of late was the STI-S209 and hope to get a low-mileage one soon.

  • @maxpeck4154
    @maxpeck4154 Год назад

    Ummmm... No spare tire? I get not having a spare on a Ford GT or a Corvette... but on a 4 door hatchback? Are they insane?

  • @andrewSUN17
    @andrewSUN17 5 месяцев назад

    It's interesting to watch reviews and tests on this car by a number of different reviewers, some who do go deep into depth about the mechanical side of the vehicle, and to see and read such varied results. Some say it is more fun than a Mazda 3 and others in the segment, to throw around, though limited by it's tires. And then others say its not so fun and it has not power lol. There must be some middle ground where it is a pretty decent little auto for the money. Though I believe Subaru, should up the power a little at least or w a turbo, it has to be a bit quicker than the Forester, Legacy and Outback with the 2.5...how could it not be? Given that, it must be a bit of fun to throw around. I can have fun throwing my mother's Forester 2.5 around, this is lower and weighs less.

  • @thatoneotherotherguy
    @thatoneotherotherguy 6 месяцев назад

    Honestly curious why I'd buy this over a Legacy Premium with the same 2.5L. Prices aren't much different.

  • @shinymike4301
    @shinymike4301 Год назад +2

    With better cars available now, I can no longer understand why anyone buys a Subaru.

  • @noobwow2009
    @noobwow2009 Год назад +4

    Is it a lot quiet then before? This will be my prefect small daily commute car🎉

    • @Stevie4171
      @Stevie4171 Год назад +1

      Better options

    • @EvolutionIX219
      @EvolutionIX219 Год назад +5

      Get yourself a corolla hatch. Cheaper and nicer. Plus, it comes with a 6sp mt option.

    • @username8644
      @username8644 Год назад +3

      ​@@EvolutionIX219 Or a base model golf GTI.

    • @noobwow2009
      @noobwow2009 Год назад +5

      @@EvolutionIX219 don’t wanna deal with manual. Too much traffic jam and I need bigger trunk. Mazda 3 and Corolla hatch are too small. It’s either civic hatch or Impreza hatch

    • @CTjacob13
      @CTjacob13 Год назад +3

      @@EvolutionIX219 No more manual Corolla (short of the GR) for 2023.

  • @brahsumatra
    @brahsumatra 6 месяцев назад +1

    It’s a great affordable car for those who need to get from point A to B.

  • @jerm_
    @jerm_ Год назад +1

    now can we get a WRX with this styling and no cheap plastic cladding??????

  • @ScorpioMotivation
    @ScorpioMotivation Год назад +1

    No manual transmission, no manual handbrake, no more sti... I mean come on Subaru

  • @pizzamilf
    @pizzamilf Год назад

    in regards to the infotainment has anyone perfected the touch/ response time when it comes to navigating through the menus ? I feel like all the major brands are all behind in tech lol

    • @TheTopher
      @TheTopher  Год назад

      Off the top of my head - Tesla, BMW and Hyundai are doing a pretty good job

  • @bender4489
    @bender4489 3 месяца назад +1

    I probably wouldn’t be trading in my 2022 Impreza wagon if it had the 2.5. That being said I’m getting a wrx. Lol

  • @microwveman2063
    @microwveman2063 Год назад +1

    Subaru really thinks adding red to the car makes it faster lol