Protests in France as President Emmanuel Macron forces through pension reform - BBC News

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  • @moonwalker4eva712
    @moonwalker4eva712 Год назад +206

    There’s billions of €uros for war, but never enough for the people.
    Vive La France 🇫🇷
    Power to the people!!!

    • @mcmarkmarkson7115
      @mcmarkmarkson7115 Год назад +8

      100's of billions for afghanistan, now Ukraine. But you have to keep the poor poor, or who will do all the dirty jobs?
      Their job is to waste money, or not enough poor people would be left to do all the shit jobs that make the corporations work in the first place.

    • @HingleMacCringleberry
      @HingleMacCringleberry Год назад

      Civilians need to riot harder and longer. The saddest part is the French gov knows this is an unpopular decision yet they are doing it anyway despite the protests. Tyrants never act on the will of the people. Behind decisions like this there are always a group of greedy indifferent people.

    • @MrMajsterixx
      @MrMajsterixx Год назад +1

      very similiar thing now going on here in czech republic with pensions and my argument would be the same

    • @BatPierrot
      @BatPierrot Год назад +1

      Not to mention billions for private special funding. And nearly half of the Macron's congress people have personal interest in big corporations that the government refuses to tax ! You don't say ?!

    • @wernherrSpaceshipEarth
      @wernherrSpaceshipEarth Год назад

      In the past, the poor consoled themselves with sulfur and saltpetre, but it works with fertilizers and diesel. The right to resist is the foundation of any democracy and the duty of every citizen.
      As long as the banks privatize their profits and socialize their losses, there is an obligation to resist.

  • @chinglau2256
    @chinglau2256 Год назад +236

    man the french are so strong! we could never do something like this in the US, half of us thinks social security are entitlements for the lazy but dont realize what a safety net it actually is.

    • @Anubis-k2c
      @Anubis-k2c Год назад

      We did but failed. Remember Trump protesters stomped white house ? ✌️

    • @originaldelta
      @originaldelta Год назад

      Thats false.
      The only people who bash social security are talking heads on Fox news and a handful of politicians...overwhelming majority of Americans support social security kept as is.

    • @EileenOR
      @EileenOR Год назад +7

      @@originaldelta I suggest you read the ENTIRE sentence, Right now you are saying "That's false" to "what a safety net it actually is." Once again, this English teacher is disheartened.

    • @gardensofthegods
      @gardensofthegods Год назад +1

      Well they're trying to make Social Security worse here and they have changes in plan so yes people here in America need to hit the streets and start protesting and stop voting for these disgusting creatures that don't care if people end up living on the streets or in the woods

    • @gardensofthegods
      @gardensofthegods Год назад +5

      Right now the Reuters channel is showing LIVE STREAMING of the protests in Paris .

  • @FloridaMan-q2h
    @FloridaMan-q2h Год назад +171

    Fight for your rights French people!

    • @michelbonnet3787
      @michelbonnet3787 Год назад

      Thanks a lot.

    • @gardensofthegods
      @gardensofthegods Год назад +1

      People here in America need to protest what they're trying to do to Social Security also .
      People have had enough of getting crushed under heel

    • @gardensofthegods
      @gardensofthegods Год назад

      @@jackgammon4084 What you put in the money you DON'T ALWAYS get back ; no , that is not ALWAYS true .
      People around the planet got SCREWED OVER TERRIBLY in the past few years : many people LOST THEIR JOBS , THEIR HOMES and now it's MORE EXPENSIVE to EAT FOOD and feed your pets than ever before .
      Yes the Lord's been very good to me and I HAVE been VERY BLESSED but there were times I STRUGGLED HORRIBLY and went WITHOUT ... even went WITHOUT FOOD right here in America .
      I was very generous with homeless people and gave away thousands of dollars ... only to later regret it and had to look in trash for food .
      And then when I got a small inheritance from when my baby brother died I kind of now regret AGAIN the THOUSANDS I gave away to others .
      I know the philosophy of manifesting but it's terrible when people sound GLIB and say all you have to do is ask . The truth is that the Lord DOESN'T ALWAYS give people what they want when they NEED it TO SURVIVE . People , EVEN BABIES DIE EVERY DAY of STARVATION asking the Lord for help and you know this .
      Like I said I've been very blessed and had some real miracles ... but you people just so glib it seems smug ... arrogant .
      Yes I still believe in the power of prayer and asking the Lord for what I need but I cannot believe HOW MANY HOMELESS people there are here in the richest country on the planet and I have done my best to help them and cannot give anymore .
      And I know so many people who are worried about where they will be living in the next few months because they can no longer afford the rent .
      I'm sure many of those people asked the Lord for help too .

    • @victorlambert2338
      @victorlambert2338 Год назад +1

      @@jackgammon4084 God predicted and did everything, he (if we can put a genre to the name) wouldn't care or give anything because God did it at the beginning of all. The rest is in our hands ( even if God made it as it is)

  • @gdewyg
    @gdewyg Год назад +507

    Government should be there to represent people and not to oppress them

    • @volentastudios4673
      @volentastudios4673 Год назад +41

      Mate, the US is changing the retirement age to 67 from 65, macron changed it from 62 to 64, my fellow French people have it easy, I agree with macron

    • @Tosse901
      @Tosse901 Год назад

      doubt that every french is as delusional as these protesters.
      There iis just NO other way than change the retirement age! It's simple math!

    • @yungtriexie6186
      @yungtriexie6186 Год назад

      ​@@volentastudios4673 because you idiot

    • @Infernal460
      @Infernal460 Год назад +1

      @emm Welcome to the 2020's.

    • @birdlynn417
      @birdlynn417 Год назад +2

      Depends how you define oppress.

  • @enigma7791
    @enigma7791 Год назад +382

    Love the French spirit! Respect from the UK

    • @galaxyfred4161
      @galaxyfred4161 Год назад +20

      Thank you from France !!!🙏

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Год назад +1

      Mind Begs the Question:
      Hitler - Jews unsafe to German Values,Identity
      If France/Govts - Muslims unsafe to Western Values,Identity
      Following on footprints of Hitler,Neo Nazi,No?

    • @andrewlilley3660
      @andrewlilley3660 Год назад +11

      Indeed respect from the UK, but if only we had made the same protest regarding our disgustingly high pension age!

    • @triggerwarning7733
      @triggerwarning7733 Год назад +8

      ​@@andrewlilley3660 we need to and we do have the protests but the problem we have over here is we can't gather the people because social media posts get taken down and the news won't speak about the protest until its over we need to take our country back and show the government that we have a voice and we will use it

    • @andrewlilley3660
      @andrewlilley3660 Год назад +8

      @@triggerwarning7733 Yes, I see first-hand what these pension age increases are doing, and it's not a pretty sight, I have never seen such despair, we have the lowest pension in the western world, and the highest qualification age, it's disgusting.

  • @jewelofafrica5974
    @jewelofafrica5974 Год назад +32

    Respect to the citizens of this country.

  • @Terasiax
    @Terasiax Год назад +47

    Glad to see support from people all around the world, thank you for your kind words, we'll keep fighting.

    • @alansbinnie1446
      @alansbinnie1446 Год назад +2

      I don't agree with your fight, we don't all support you,.

    • @Terasiax
      @Terasiax Год назад +5

      @@alansbinnie1446 Yeah, I just wanted to thank those who do, don't be a downer lmao

    • @gruesomedevil5062
      @gruesomedevil5062 Год назад

      Bruh you're just stupid at this point not wanna work even 2 years ... you are just putting pressure on working class ... plus your retirement age is less than world average ... keep fighting for your doom

  • @jardinbleu7
    @jardinbleu7 Год назад +150

    Arrogance is the word: government should not force such a reform on the people. What a shame!

    • @theroldan8013
      @theroldan8013 Год назад +3

      they have no choice vanderlayen and stoltemberg give orders and french peasants obeys... they can eat cake if they dont like but ukraine needs money for armaggedon

    • @beata1414
      @beata1414 Год назад

      Government only represented by .. Macron and submissive PM Bornstein !!
      Thanks to the 12th '49 3', which means he decided without the votes or consent of the parliament because He has no majority in Parliament !!

    • @triceratops7084
      @triceratops7084 Год назад

      ​@@theroldan8013 fuck The Ukraine n@zis,not a penny for them

    • @robbieogle8622
      @robbieogle8622 Год назад +2

      I wouldnt mess with the French. Two words. Marie Antoinette.

  • @jonnysniperneverdies
    @jonnysniperneverdies Год назад +18

    French people never bowed to injustice, government or monarchy alike. Stay strong our European brothers much love from Italy 🇮🇹

  • @MB-we4dx
    @MB-we4dx Год назад +64

    Macron thinks he’s running a totalitarian system. Bring that clown down!

    • @theroldan8013
      @theroldan8013 Год назад +3

      @unidentified easy peasy.. just blame putin and problem fixed... vanderlayen can show you how

    • @ben5073
      @ben5073 Год назад

      So what is being protested? The reform of raising the pension age 2 years? Or the way it was passed?

    • @ben5073
      @ben5073 Год назад

      ​@unidentified well, Tsar Putin is an actual authoritarian. As well as the CCP. Try protesting in those countries.

    • @beata1414
      @beata1414 Год назад +3

      ​@@ben5073 Both ! He said he would not change anything ... first.
      Second, he used a '49.3', which means,
      he decided himself without the votes of the parliament. This is the 12th '49.3' he has used.

    • @GarryKent
      @GarryKent Год назад

      МИКРОН НЕ ТОЛЬКО КЛОУН , ЭТО ПУДЕЛЬ БАЙДЕНА

  • @fabienm440
    @fabienm440 Год назад +47

    I am French, and I will enlighten you in an objective way... You are comparing what is not comparable! Let me explain: the French pension system requires much higher contributions from employees than in the United States. In France, there are no pension funds (except for optional contributions), but an extremely reliable public system. By retiring at 60, 62 years old, the state does not make any gift, it is income that is deferred in time and returned as a financial asset like a "state bond". What you have to understand, every month we contribute a part of our salary in a compulsory way. Macron is lying, he just wants to transform a public system into a contribution for pension funds in the coming years. This guy is a traitor, he just wants to allow Black Rock and others to get their hands on a real treasure to perpetuate their system which can only survive by the arrival of new capital. The difference between the French public system and the private funded system is the risk that it would put on the population... In case of a financial crash, French pensioners will continue to receive their pensions, pensioners of pension funds can lose everything. The French pension system was created after the second world war, and it can resist to a third war, it was thought by people who have known this horror and who wish... Do you understand now?

    • @skontheroad
      @skontheroad Год назад +1

      EH OH!!! Attendez!! Vous voulez expliquer, mais... you have to tell the whole story! Remember when France reduced the work week??? Because it was quite a long time ago! So now, to work 2 more years may be necessary! And nonetheless, plenty of Americans would be glad not to work a 40 hour work week!

    • @fabienm440
      @fabienm440 Год назад +4

      @@skontheroad all this has nothing to do with 35,55,100 of work per week, the contributions for the pension funds are proportional to what you earn... Just to inform you that the French work on average 37.5 per week

    • @skontheroad
      @skontheroad Год назад

      @fabien M OF COURSE it has to do with work hours. And contributions. Just like in the US. But in France, the work culture is not at all comparable to that of the work culture in the US.

    • @dezafinado
      @dezafinado Год назад +1

      @@fabienm440 Question: What is Agirc-Arrco? Do French workers put some money each month into these funds?

    • @dezafinado
      @dezafinado Год назад +2

      US pension: After WW2, about 65% of US workers had 2 pensions - Social Security (like France) and company pension. By the 1990s, most companies stopped offering pensions and switched to the 401k (tax-deferred fund), where the worker contributes a small percentage of the salary. This fund is invested in Wall Street and US Treasury bonds. You can decide on the risk level. Not all companies have this option and contribution is a personal choice, not an obligation.
      Public workers (teachers, police, firefighters, etc) usually have a separate pension fund managed by the County or State government.
      In general, a good retirement plan in the US has 3 sources - Social Security, 401k fund, personal savings or retirement accounts. You can take money from the 401k at age 59.5, Social Security at 62 (reduced benefit) and 67 (full benefit). You have more freedom with the personal savings and retirement accounts. At age 65, healthcare is provided by Medicare but you have to pay a supplemental charge each month.
      Work hours: 40 hours/week + overtime pay if more than 40... but not all employers respect this guideline. Most people have 2-3 weeks vacation and the US has fewer holidays. For every 10-12 years of employment, a US worker works about 1 year more than a French worker. So 42 years of work in France is about 45 years in the US.

  • @james9836
    @james9836 Год назад +186

    Good on the French citizens are actually standing up for their basic rights of retirement

    • @birdlynn417
      @birdlynn417 Год назад +5

      You mean acting radical.

    • @james9836
      @james9836 Год назад +3

      @@birdlynn417 Is that a bad thing or good

    • @_ArsNova
      @_ArsNova Год назад +14

      There is no such thing as "basic rights of retirement" lol. You people just arbitrarily attach the word "right" to any thing you like and act like you're entitled to it.
      Also boo-hoo, French people, who already have some of the most mandatory vacation days anywhere in the world, have the same retirement age as everyone else now.
      What a tragedy.

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 Год назад +6

      French people always protests and it achieves nothing.

    • @nonor.a.7733
      @nonor.a.7733 Год назад

      ​@@_ArsNovaSeeing that retirement taxes are taken directly from our salary every month, it is a right. 😑
      Also not my fault you live in a country where basic social rights like holidays are not provided. But please, feel free to come live in France and enjoy everything instead of spitting your jealousy online. 🤡

  • @a.d.595
    @a.d.595 Год назад +23

    The government in the UK could raise the retirement age to 85, nobody would say anything.

    • @gauthierbourdiec2762
      @gauthierbourdiec2762 Год назад +3

      Lol you still have a king and your country is completely subject to finance what did you expect 😂. Wake up guys.

    • @BritishRepublicsn
      @BritishRepublicsn Год назад

      And then at 86 it's "oh thats a bit inconvenient.."

    • @edytapytko7494
      @edytapytko7494 Год назад

      British have been neutered and rainbow brain washed.

    • @lilydacruz9727
      @lilydacruz9727 Год назад

      It's your problème us we don't agree about that because France suffered too much, and no one agreed with the reform, but. it passed by force without the agreement of everyone. Democracy is disappearing.

    • @saynn-music
      @saynn-music Год назад

      they would 'say' everything, they would 'do' nothing

  • @rogermoore8048
    @rogermoore8048 Год назад +34

    Young people, doing the work.

  • @Elainerulesutube
    @Elainerulesutube Год назад +63

    Good on them. Hands off our pensions!

    • @travisscott-fb4ru
      @travisscott-fb4ru Год назад

      Hello

    • @petergriffin3194
      @petergriffin3194 Год назад

      Do you vote Tory

    • @Omegon8536
      @Omegon8536 Год назад +3

      what have you personally done to deserve a pension, huh? what makes you feel entitled to such a thing?

    • @dominoplay3712
      @dominoplay3712 Год назад +1

      @@Omegon8536 why so bitter?

    • @bombastothunder3701
      @bombastothunder3701 Год назад +8

      ​@@Omegon8536 people work their whole lives whilst paying exorbitant taxes for things that mostly don't benefit them. Pension and healthcare is the absolute least a government can do, especially one that pays their employees so high

  • @Ura_Jack_Off
    @Ura_Jack_Off Год назад +18

    The UK could raise the age to 80, they still wouldn’t riot.

    • @devinbutler3271
      @devinbutler3271 Год назад

      So

    • @Omegon8536
      @Omegon8536 Год назад

      good, good to know our country isn't full of entitled twatsacks

    • @dezafinado
      @dezafinado Год назад

      If the Brits are willing to work till you drop, the EU would love for the UK to come back and help pay for French retirement. Best friends forever.

    • @edytapytko7494
      @edytapytko7494 Год назад

      @@devinbutler3271 The silence of the lambs.

  • @nerantzisthomas1286
    @nerantzisthomas1286 Год назад +30

    bravo aux citoyens français !! la télé en Grèce ne montre pas ..

    • @goofygrandlouis6296
      @goofygrandlouis6296 Год назад +1

      Of course they don't.
      Since when do governements want to show on TV, other people revolting.. 😉

    • @mattmatt9733
      @mattmatt9733 Год назад

      ✊️✊️

    • @scn27T
      @scn27T Год назад

      La TV française selectionne aussi les images.
      Les médias sont le 4eme pouvoir

  • @soultravellerDonJohn
    @soultravellerDonJohn Год назад +19

    Brave french people!

  • @LetsChillPage
    @LetsChillPage Год назад +159

    Hello,
    A necessary clarification must be made for those who think the French benefit from their retirement earlier than other European countries. Let's face it; it's wrong.
    Indeed, too often, we confuse *"the legal retirement age"* (the age at which one can officially decide to retire), which is currently *62 years old* in France (but if you don't have all your trimesters, so the retirement pension decreases by the same amount), and "retirement age at full rate." which is situated between the ages of 65 and 67 depending on the number of quarters contributed, i.e., at least 172 quarters worked (43 years). If you retire at age 67, you will have a full pension (i.e., around 70 to 80% of the salary received at departure).
    Therefore, the full retirement age is about the same in France as in other EU countries, contrary to the urban legend.
    Raising this legal retirement age to 64, therefore, obliges all French people who have worked very young and already total 172 quarters or are very close to it, are, with this new law, obliged to continue to work anyway, whether they want to or not or if they're unemployed because no company wants to hire them anymore because they are too old in their eyes.. We no longer give them a choice. And, of course, those who started working at an early age are those who don't have a diploma and work in very physical and tiring jobs.
    Moreover, to justify this choice of the government, Macron had promised that in exchange, everyone would benefit from at least an income of €1,200 per month.
    However, it turns out that a member of the opposition (a socialist) decided to check these figures announced by the government. He then realized that, in reality, it only concerned a tiny part of the French, 72,000, instead of the 2,000,000 told.
    Knowing that in addition, the government has used all possible and imaginable subterfuges to prevent the opposition from expressing itself.
    And, despite the promise made not to have recourse to Article 49.3, which makes it possible to dispense with the vote of the National Assembly and thus impose this law without it being possible to oppose it, Élisabeth Borne, the First Minister, has just indicated tonight the use of this famous article.
    This explains this very great anger and the situation of revolt currently occurring in France.

    • @Coldbird1337
      @Coldbird1337 Год назад

      my or my, could we be seeing another revolution?

    • @salamandermo
      @salamandermo Год назад

      Ah yes, they justify the choice of the government.....and hold no votes proceed anyway. The government is for the people, not the economy....and your justify it by going its the law? Look at America ever heard of the medicade gap in how cancer goes up so suddenly at 65 or 67 but its actually when the government is required to start treating people.

    • @LetsChillPage
      @LetsChillPage Год назад +20

      @@Coldbird1337 I don't think so, but what's different today than the last days of protest against this reform is that this time the young people have come in much greater numbers because of this recourse to 49.3. In general, they're much more virulent than ordinary citizens when they express their anger.
      This is why there have been quite a few violent outbursts. Moreover, at the same time and for the same reasons the garbage collectors are on strike, the sidewalks of Paris are strewn with household waste, including all kinds of objects (bottles, for example), which can serve as projectiles for the demonstrators. This wasn't the case during the demonstrations of the yellow vests. At that time, the police had posted themselves at all strategic places (up to 400 km from the capital) to search all the vehicles, and all the people they guessed were going to the Parisian demonstrations.
      This prevented the demonstrators from arming themselves against them.
      But, this time, the weapons (the projectiles, therefore) are finally directly available on the spot. In addition, demonstrators can set fire to various piles of garbage bags in different places in the capital, forcing firefighters and police to run from one place to another and thus create a diversion to seize strategic locations. Or to take them from behind also to disperse them and make them much less effective in their attempts at repression.
      In addition, the young people and the demonstrators are also outraged because the police have once again used violence in a completely unexpected way and without reason while the demonstrators were peaceful and content to march in protest.
      Many images were broadcast on TV, showing these police abuses on women and older adults (expected, since it's about retirement) who did nothing wrong, which angered them even more.
      Therefore, ultimately, knowing my compatriots, I don't see how it will all turn out. But, it's indeed likely to heat up, perhaps not a revolution strictly speaking, but riots, surely. So, a revolt (as in May 68) is quite possible.
      Because, in truth, the anger doesn't stop at this pension reform.
      You should also know the media in France are all owned by billionaires. Therefore, journalists, economists, and the various speakers on TV sets are generally pro-neoliberalism and present the facts in a biased way. This intensely irritates the French. Macron was elected in the second round to counter Marine Le Pen's party, considered far-right. Abstention was also a record. What makes this president not very legitimate. The main right-wing party holds the Senate even though it did not win 5% of the votes. And yet, it tipped the scales in favor of pension reform. In contrast, more than 70% were against (96% for active people, those who work, therefore). The French, therefore, no longer feel represented anywhere and have the impression of living in an autocracy.
      For fifteen years now, and even more, there have been many revelations about the actions of the various successive governments, many betrayals, dirty tricks, also adherence to the Maastricht Treaty while the French had refused by citizen referendum, the dismantling of French industries and their resale by cutting to foreign countries, massive relocations, labor laws which have constantly reconsidered social achievements, etc. have led to a very tenacious resentment among the French.
      This is why the country is on the verge of implosion.

    • @nonor.a.7733
      @nonor.a.7733 Год назад +11

      Thanks for saying this! I was getting annoyed by all these foreign press talking as if we all retire at 62yo and giving no more context than ''yeah reform is needed but french doesn't want to'' 😐

    • @LetsChillPage
      @LetsChillPage Год назад +5

      @@nonor.a.7733 Yes, they don't know the context, but they judge, it's sad.

  • @nemanjakojicic1990
    @nemanjakojicic1990 Год назад +48

    You definitely have spirit, strong spirit together, example in my Serbia is so different, everybody watch for self, respect to all people in streets of Paris

    • @lauras1553
      @lauras1553 Год назад +3

      I'm French and from Paris area. I'd just like to emphasise that people are also gathering in many other cities. We're all united to fight this reform. And also, thank you.

    • @nemanjakojicic1990
      @nemanjakojicic1990 Год назад

      @@lauras1553 that's right 👍🏻

  • @justkal5644
    @justkal5644 Год назад +9

    If they can bypass to 64 , they can bypass to 74 in one day.

  • @godblessamerica3247
    @godblessamerica3247 Год назад +6

    People will die before being able to retire. Sad.

  • @markhayward7400
    @markhayward7400 Год назад +11

    I admire the French people. They understand their nation's history. When their Govt takes unpopular action, they rise up and riot. In the UK, we meekly accept or timidly protest far worse indignities from our Govt

  • @pollytiks3885
    @pollytiks3885 Год назад +96

    I remember when the U.S. retirement age was 55. Now it’s 67, with a ceiling of benefits at 70.

    • @Single.White.Female
      @Single.White.Female Год назад +33

      Yes it's pretty sickening. They're just so greedy and don't want to pay people what they're owed. Next they'll raise the age to 99. 😮

    • @allandill2033
      @allandill2033 Год назад +4

      Ceiling of benefits at 70? There is a ceiling for the tax but I've never heard of the payments having a stop date

    • @declangaming24
      @declangaming24 Год назад +1

      ​@@jackhammer- not everyone has to work until there 70 look at undertaker, Rock, stone cold steve austin ect there famous WWE Superstars but because of there contribution they can get any high payed role.

    • @allandill2033
      @allandill2033 Год назад +9

      Retirement age for social security was never below 65

    • @noneoftheabove5816
      @noneoftheabove5816 Год назад

      Work til you die

  • @digitalmatt3646
    @digitalmatt3646 Год назад +6

    For the ucraine whatever...for the pensions there is no money ,it is very strange

    • @77SBCR
      @77SBCR Год назад

      Exactly why people are rioting, its enough. The lies are too obvious

    • @millerstation92
      @millerstation92 Год назад

      Lies .France has not spent much in Ukraine

    • @77SBCR
      @77SBCR Год назад

      @@millerstation92 Millions? Billions?

  • @infinitedonuts
    @infinitedonuts Год назад +17

    I love France!

  • @annebegue2605
    @annebegue2605 Год назад +28

    Unfortunately in the UK ..we are bullied and brainwashed by the Gov..I started work at 16 and was told you have to contribute 30 years, then 35 ..now am 62 ...got to wait...😠

    • @florenceb5363
      @florenceb5363 Год назад

      UK people have to burn it all like us. We are not their slaves.

    • @gauthierbourdiec2762
      @gauthierbourdiec2762 Год назад +1

      Lol you still have a king and your country is completely subject to finance what did you expect 😂. Wake up guys.

    • @andrewlilley3660
      @andrewlilley3660 Год назад

      @@gauthierbourdiec2762 Bearing in mind the UK state pension is a pittance by European standards, that argument hardly holds true!
      Further, when the UK can and does accommodate an ever-increasing number of illegal immigrants at the cost of billions, then the Koffers are still very full, thanks.

    • @Aden288
      @Aden288 Год назад

      ​​@@andrewlilley3660 What the UK government spends on immigrants is a drop in the ocean compared to the billions they pocket from every crisis by giving it to friends and family via lucrative contracts and inadvertently themselves but Brits rather blame immigrants. Stop invading other countries and creating wars where you sell weapons and prop up dictators. People wouldn't flee their homelands otherwise. You are so gullible.

    • @lisashung9442
      @lisashung9442 Год назад

      @@andrewlilley3660 do you know where these illegal immigrants are mostly from? From the countries ruined by the illegal wars operated by UK, European counties and especially USA…….

  • @alexcita6529
    @alexcita6529 Год назад +4

    as a french citizen
    , we will fight as always for our principals ans ours social model

  • @Eric-uh7nl
    @Eric-uh7nl Год назад +6

    This is deplorable. Making people slaves at a time in their lives when they should relax and enjoy what's left of life. Maybe it's time for a regime change.

    • @KamalasNotLikeUs
      @KamalasNotLikeUs Год назад

      A 2 hour daily lunch and a whole month of vacation? Oh, the ache of enslavement! 😂

    • @ef888
      @ef888 Год назад

      @@KamalasNotLikeUs And we'll have nothing less

  • @retromaniaco_br7422
    @retromaniaco_br7422 Год назад +10

    keep going French people! You are right to fight for the better! It's about time to not only France, but all the world talk about it. Work until death to keep the status quo of rich people!?

  • @charlesapana9935
    @charlesapana9935 Год назад +12

    I think retirement should reduce to give chance to the youth to also occupy very important position

    • @declangaming24
      @declangaming24 Год назад

      Maybe but in those high labour jobs the old people's body's won't put up with it in low energy jobs like supermarket workers they work better at in there old age

    • @xeik7482
      @xeik7482 Год назад

      Where are the youth? France's birth rate has been declining for some time now .

  • @delonthomas5049
    @delonthomas5049 Год назад +8

    65 at most Caribbean countries where half of the population don't live to see 65 this is 😢trouble

  • @troublingrain3060
    @troublingrain3060 Год назад +36

    The dark days of democracy have arrived in France. The French people must wake up and we support them!

    • @an2and891
      @an2and891 Год назад +1

      France follows the path of Russia. Macron is dictator like a Putler.

    • @limamdelorient3189
      @limamdelorient3189 Год назад +1

      It's not completely a dark day, it could be an historic shift point 😏

    • @beata1414
      @beata1414 Год назад

      What democracy with the 12th 49.3 ??????

  • @chiriaciulian8976
    @chiriaciulian8976 Год назад +2

    Meanwhile in uk they retire at 67 ...

  • @leatharay3565
    @leatharay3565 Год назад +41

    Glad to see the young people there

    • @beata1414
      @beata1414 Год назад +1

      They were absent ...for a long time ... but they're back !!!

  • @DostoyevskyChan69
    @DostoyevskyChan69 Год назад +6

    VIVE LA FRANCE!🇫🇷 Straya’ is with ya!🇦🇺

  • @mrswhozityaya7958
    @mrswhozityaya7958 Год назад +10

    I’m over here in the USA like you guys get pensions??

  • @ablekanh8938
    @ablekanh8938 Год назад +4

    Courage à nos camarades britanniques qui, eu aussi, manifestent pour leurs droits ✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻

  • @jneff6456
    @jneff6456 Год назад +19

    All retirement ages should be lowed across the entire planet. No one should be forced to work past the age of 55.

    • @JW-do2wc
      @JW-do2wc Год назад

      Many would disagree since I've seen the elderly working.

    • @zlonewolf
      @zlonewolf Год назад +2

      @@JW-do2wc its not out of choice but necessity due to rising inflations.

    • @Sytrylt
      @Sytrylt Год назад +2

      @@JW-do2wc disagree on what ?
      It's about not FORCING people to work past a certain age ! If people want to work past 55, 60... that's their choice ! Noone is forcing them not to !

    • @dominiquebatthyany3423
      @dominiquebatthyany3423 Год назад

      ​@@zlonewolf inflation organisée par ces mêmes gouvernements qui ne travaillent pas pour notre bien vous oubliez de le dire.

    • @Piecenotwar
      @Piecenotwar Год назад

      Unfortunately those in power make decisions based on their own experiences, working at 65 isn’t that old or difficult when you do fuck all all day for a job as those in government do, but 65 when you actually need to do some hard physical labour as art of your job is a little different.

  • @ballsackery
    @ballsackery Год назад +4

    Work until death

  • @livinglifetothefullest22
    @livinglifetothefullest22 Год назад +7

    🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷Allons enfants de la Patrie Le jour de gloire est arrivé 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

  • @robertslomion4813
    @robertslomion4813 Год назад +23

    Perfect democracy ❤

  • @kaleem9185
    @kaleem9185 Год назад +6

    When they need something to get done, there’s always room in law book.
    *NOT FOR THE PUBLIC.*

  • @ouibonjour5952
    @ouibonjour5952 Год назад +2

    Of course you only interviewed the fascist one...

  • @the_hiroman
    @the_hiroman Год назад +6

    Meanwhile, these politicians will work a fraction of the common people and leave as millionaires.

    • @beata1414
      @beata1414 Год назад +2

      Yes, 6 months for them is enough to get a pension ..
      'Quelle indignité ' N.Sarkosy😂😂😂😂

  • @18winsagin
    @18winsagin Год назад +2

    They already done this here in America, work until your 70 or until cancer or dementia gets you which ever comes first.

  • @putzak
    @putzak Год назад +5

    And here I am probably working till I'm 72 years old

  • @DirtySaltyBug
    @DirtySaltyBug Год назад +2

    It's on the way to 70 and beyond. The UK is already ahead of the curve because we're probably more broke.

  • @hourbee5535
    @hourbee5535 Год назад +11

    Stop paying Ukraine

    • @declangaming24
      @declangaming24 Год назад +1

      No there our Allie we will send troops

  • @sambrowne2122
    @sambrowne2122 Год назад +1

    The pension age in the UK will be 70 very soon. The English except anything! Power to the people. Well done France!

  • @antnam4406
    @antnam4406 Год назад +15

    Sarcozy raised it to 62, now Marcon raised it to 64. Waiting for it to get to 70.

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Год назад +1

      Mind Begs the Question:
      Hitler - Jews unsafe to German Values,Identity
      If Politicians - Muslims unsafe to Western Values,Identity
      Following on footprints of Hitler,Neo Nazi,No?

    • @AH-be6bu
      @AH-be6bu Год назад +1

      Same here in the UK. And I daresay everywhere else in the 'developed' world.

  • @gkbbkg64
    @gkbbkg64 Год назад +2

    French governmente does not have money to pay to French pensioners after retirement but yet France has billions fir Ukraine for as long as it takes . Can somebody explain this French logic

  • @neolithic3
    @neolithic3 Год назад +32

    It's 65 in Canada. If they want their pension to have longevity they need to raise either the age or raise taxes to cover it. People will be angry about either option.

    • @johnmuthan286
      @johnmuthan286 Год назад +13

      French are already paying 33.8% of their gross income just to pay for their social protection (pension+health), total amount of taxes representing between 50% to 74% depending upon revenue levels.
      The French agreed to be the most taxed population for a reason, to have better social protection than other countries!
      So you can't really compare can you?

    • @thomassmith4467
      @thomassmith4467 Год назад

      That’s all well and good, but when you, by yourself, ram it through is a mistake.

    • @77SBCR
      @77SBCR Год назад

      Big corpos arent paying taxes in France, google, apple, mcdo... Thats billions and billions of euros. Yet they decided that middle/low classes will be the ones to pay. Thats BS and people cant stand it anymore. Everyone was against it, but yet, in this "democracy" (Demos the people Kratos the power) one group of people decided for the 11th time in a row, to bypass any voting or any counters or discussion and forced the law.
      Its enough, people all over the world need to wake up and realise that governements are corrupts by big billionairy industries, companies and people.

    • @DD-wx4jc
      @DD-wx4jc Год назад +7

      The rich should pay more.

    • @XTheLolX301
      @XTheLolX301 Год назад +2

      Canada has half population and a higher life expectancy

  • @papapa9106
    @papapa9106 Год назад +5

    In the UK people would riot if the pension age was cut they have done nothing when the retirement age has risen and the value of the pension cut!

    • @johnmuthan286
      @johnmuthan286 Год назад +1

      French are already paying 33.8% of their gross income just to pay for their social protection (pension+health), total amount of taxes representing between 50% to 74% depending upon revenue levels.
      The French agreed to be the most taxed population for a reason, to have better social protection than other countries!
      So you can't really compare can you?

    • @papapa9106
      @papapa9106 Год назад +1

      @@johnmuthan286 I think the point I was making has gone over your head!

    • @edytapytko7494
      @edytapytko7494 Год назад

      You let the third world in, you become the third world.

  • @peterkennedey9869
    @peterkennedey9869 Год назад +2

    To the people of France, Force macron out!

  • @emmamyers6152
    @emmamyers6152 Год назад +3

    Yesssss France 🇫🇷 This is what Americans should be doing 🇺🇸

  • @francisanselm5984
    @francisanselm5984 Год назад +1

    thanks for the l'info

  • @georgeuribe506
    @georgeuribe506 Год назад +6

    From A US perspective it seems generous. You can apply at age 62 but you only get 80% of benefits even if you have worked and met 100% eligibility. 100% of benefits are not available until age 67.

    • @dominoplay3712
      @dominoplay3712 Год назад

      US is fucked on most things, one of them is pension also, it seems..

    • @unpetitpissenlit517
      @unpetitpissenlit517 Год назад +4

      The pb is Macron does this to pay for the juge debt. But he prefers to fund the debt by cuting french workers pensions and making them work longer when he refuses to tax the rich by suppressing the tax on fortune. He protects the rich. And this new law that is the source of the issue was supposed to be voted by the assembly but he used an amendment that allows the law to be adopted without being voted, bcse he knew that a minority in the assembly (and in the country) is backing him UP. His ruling is becoming more and more authoritarian. He doesn't listen to the people, nor to the assembly or the senate, just like Louis XVI before the french people cut his head.

    • @annebeignatborde1832
      @annebeignatborde1832 Год назад

      It's very different in France then where the minimum age is 62 but if you haven't accumulated enough validated 'trimestres' you need to continue working until you do or reach 67.

    • @dezafinado
      @dezafinado Год назад

      @@annebeignatborde1832 Hmmmm... so if I spent 10 years at the university to get a PhD and take one off for vacation then begin my career at age 30, I can retire with full pension at 67 without completing the required trimesters?

    • @annebeignatborde1832
      @annebeignatborde1832 Год назад +1

      @@dezafinado I don't think you'd get a full pension in that case scenario. But again if you'd had jobs that paid very well then you'd get a decent pension because it's calculated on the best 20 years of salary.

  • @ambercombs5346
    @ambercombs5346 Год назад +2

    Frech people tired of getting sht.on.We need to bring back TAR AND FEATHERING. Keeps them honest.

  • @Tunisianbeauties
    @Tunisianbeauties Год назад +4

    democracy hh

  • @MOTOBRANDON
    @MOTOBRANDON Год назад +1

    The people I know who are in their early 60’s are barely able to do what they love. They’ve sacrificed their bodies to the labor industry. Imagine having to give another 2 years of labor to retire. For what kind of life? Retire into hospice? Americans for France 💪

  • @potrelviewer9536
    @potrelviewer9536 Год назад +26

    Technically it's not Macron himself who forced this law, but his Prime Minister, Elizabeth Borne.

    • @Pat8813
      @Pat8813 Год назад

      Non, c'est cette saloperie d'Europe qui nous pourrit la vie depuis 2002!

    • @aureliedo4581
      @aureliedo4581 Год назад +44

      Sorry to say. This is actually inaccurate. In the French political system, the Prime Minister is actually the voice of the President and his government. In this case, in front of the "Assemblee", the Prime Minister said words for words that she "disagrees with some of the proposal. But this is not about her or her opinions. It's about what needs to be done". She has been instructed by Macron to use the 49.3 item to force it as the 49.3 "engages the responsability of the government". She is just following orders. FYI.

    • @nes1739
      @nes1739 Год назад +14

      As a french, we know that Macron is hiding behind Borne, her job is only to do this she knew that, maybe she will have a good job in the private so with some good money 💸

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Год назад +1

      Mind Begs the Question:
      Hitler - Jews unsafe to German Culture,Identity
      If France/Govts - Muslims unsafe to Western Culture,Identity
      Following on footprints of Hitler,Neo Nazi,No?

    • @ornstein2419
      @ornstein2419 Год назад +3

      Technicaly no, it's him

  • @karlpetterrygh2112
    @karlpetterrygh2112 Год назад +29

    THIS REPORT IS FACTUALLY INACCURATE. The normal retirement age in Sweden, Portugal, Italy, Greece and Austria are not 62. They are 65 (SWE & AUT), 66 (PRT), 67 (ITA & GRC). The only other European countries to have 62 as their normal retirement age is Ukraine, Malta and Slovakia. While there are some variations based on gender, none of these exist in the comparred countries. The mentioned coutries have earliest point of retirement at 62, but this is reserved for certain professions or people who want to retire without a full pension.

    • @mranonyme78
      @mranonyme78 Год назад +18

      It's actually the same for France: most people don't retire at 62 currently, because even if you are allowed to do it, you won't get a full pension depending on how many years you've worked (you can have to work up until 67 to get it). The mean age at which French people retire is actually between 63 and 64 currently.

    • @nelvaldo.4850
      @nelvaldo.4850 Год назад +2

      Ye but Britain's will go to 70 ,so easy, calm down dear !!!

    • @dominoplay3712
      @dominoplay3712 Год назад +4

      @@nelvaldo.4850 and that’s ok?

    • @nelvaldo.4850
      @nelvaldo.4850 Год назад +3

      @@dominoplay3712 Of course not!!

    • @julD77
      @julD77 Год назад +1

      62 isn't the normal retiring age in France either though. Most people haven't reach 43 years of full time work by 62 and have to work past that age to get a full pension. We have to work 43 years, or reach the age of 67 to get a full pension

  • @livinglifetothefullest22
    @livinglifetothefullest22 Год назад +4

    🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷Allons enfants de la Patrie Le jour de gloire est arrivé 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷

  • @anjagreive6155
    @anjagreive6155 Год назад +2

    Money for war, but never for the people.😢

  • @pauljansen1137
    @pauljansen1137 Год назад +12

    over here in the Netherlands the pension age is 67!!!!

  • @09croix21
    @09croix21 Год назад +1

    Macaron should step down.

  • @interstellar_1003
    @interstellar_1003 Год назад +20

    Swedens retirement age isn't 62, it's 65.

    • @DD-wx4jc
      @DD-wx4jc Год назад +1

      Should be 50. The rich have enough horded away to pay for it but it'd require fundamental change in politics since the rich control everything.

    • @devinbutler3271
      @devinbutler3271 Год назад +2

      This isn’t Sweden

    • @interstellar_1003
      @interstellar_1003 Год назад +6

      @devinbutler3271 did you even watch the clip? they mention in comparison that swedens retirement age is 62. It's not.

  • @Mimibldr
    @Mimibldr Год назад +1

    What this video does not explain is that if the motion of confidence is voted, Macron will be forced to resign from presidency. This will be the end of Macron. And so be it!

    • @HunterBloodHunterBlood
      @HunterBloodHunterBlood Год назад

      Unless Macron goes full blown dictator and cheat his way out of losing his position

  • @shortnews2024-v7l
    @shortnews2024-v7l Год назад +9

    Perancis negara awal demokrasi yang sudah tidak demokratis, orang perancis harus sadar. Macron lebih memikirkan orang ukraina dari pada warga perancis sendiri. Bukti makron sudah tidak peduli rakyatnya sendiri....tapi lebih menunjukan seolah olah pemimpin yang besar di mata dunia, tapi gagal di negeri sendiri. Tetap semangat buat orang perancis..

  • @andrecz1133
    @andrecz1133 Год назад

    Government should start making money. Not only collecting taxes.

  • @georgedejohn4470
    @georgedejohn4470 Год назад +5

    Coming to American gov-ments soon! Thanks Joe

  • @ross8474
    @ross8474 Год назад +1

    You lot in France are lucky I am 64 now and have to wait till I am 66 crazy

  • @lemon1657
    @lemon1657 Год назад +11

    Why don't they create a maximum wage cap of 100 million per person and the rest of the corporate profits goes to taxes? No single person needs to be a billionaire but of course they'll make the poorest workers stay in the workforce longer 🙄

    • @zlonewolf
      @zlonewolf Год назад

      The rich already pays 20% taxes. Raising their taxes by a small amount will not affect them if they make hundreds of millions a year.
      Jeff Bezos has not paid any taxes for years.

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 Год назад +1

      Capitalist societies would not allow this.

    • @lemon1657
      @lemon1657 Год назад

      @@walden6272 That's an assumption because we haven't yet. They can justify it the same way they justify a minimum wage. It's the bare minimum that is allowed legally so there should be a maximum to prevent people like Jeff Bezos making billions while his workers make minimum wage and don't have adequate toilet breaks.

    • @mazzgoldie9149
      @mazzgoldie9149 Год назад +1

      Sounds like communism to me pal🙄 we know what wonderful countries they are like to live

    • @lemon1657
      @lemon1657 Год назад

      @@mazzgoldie9149 Sounds like you're engaging in black and white thinking. Really? There's nothing between the abuses of Communism and Capitalism? No middle ground? Pffft, we have plenty of laws and regulations to keep people in check. This is just one they would never touch because the rich are never regulated. All the burden is put on the poor.

  • @janethart123
    @janethart123 Год назад +1

    Britain is the poorest pensioner and is pensioner. Age is up to 67

  • @KSK99
    @KSK99 Год назад +3

    For example in New Zealand Pension eligibility is 65 years and in future it may go to 67 years. Just informed.

  • @saigejones3363
    @saigejones3363 Год назад +1

    Fight for your DEMOCRACY.

  • @kookymalik4603
    @kookymalik4603 Год назад +4

    Average day in france

  • @michaeledwards3578
    @michaeledwards3578 Год назад +1

    They are lucky" in the uk its age 66 before yu retire

  • @palmilhas1530
    @palmilhas1530 Год назад +14

    The retirement age in Portugal is 66 years and 4 months

    • @retro5014
      @retro5014 Год назад +1

      I think that's a good age. People are living a lot longer.

    • @babalonkie
      @babalonkie Год назад +1

      @@retro5014 Ahh the same BS that the government says when they say they are putting up the age... also whilst saying more percentages are dying from obesity, hearts attacks, strokes, cancer and other premature deaths and that they need to charge you more tax to "tackle it".
      Yeah... it's either one or the other... and the fact you have not caught that explains how they get away with it.

    • @johnmuthan286
      @johnmuthan286 Год назад +1

      How much do you pay in taxes to pay for your pension? In France it's 33.8% of their gross income just to pay for their social protection (pension+health). Then there are additional taxes

    • @palmilhas1530
      @palmilhas1530 Год назад

      @@johnmuthan286 I looked it up and it's 11% but It probably also depends on your income

    • @babalonkie
      @babalonkie Год назад

      @@palmilhas1530 It's also pretty much irrelevant... When a tax directly benefits you and not others whilst being good value... it's not an issue. It's the one time people wont ever moan about a tax in a educated society... it's when it's unlikely to benefit you that people rightly will protest... if you are unlikely to see a return or benefit... why pay it at all!?

  • @tracyknowles4680
    @tracyknowles4680 Год назад +1

    Don't understand why the police aren't with them since they will draw pension also

    • @Sytrylt
      @Sytrylt Год назад +1

      their pension is not touched by that reform ! So that's why !

  • @johnlouis7695
    @johnlouis7695 Год назад +5

    Actually hard to imagine that the police are not on the protestors side unless they are being cut another type of retirement deal?

    • @Sytrylt
      @Sytrylt Год назад

      the police is not concerned by this reform ! Their pension is not affected in any way !

    • @hyusuf4280
      @hyusuf4280 Год назад

      ​@@Sytrylt how is it not affected ?

  • @gardensofthegods
    @gardensofthegods Год назад +1

    Raising the age of retirement to get more revenue is not the right idea .
    Terrible . Start out by lowering the salaries of the highest people in government to save some money .
    ... and take away some of the extras that they get .

  • @justinskirzenski
    @justinskirzenski Год назад +16

    Ahh France, you gotta love it

  • @naomiwitherspoon5579
    @naomiwitherspoon5579 Год назад

    Destroying your own property regardless of the issue on hand is ridiculous. You should never destroy your own property just to prove a point. That won’t solve your problems. Check with the countries who experienced this

  • @saabuunsaid
    @saabuunsaid Год назад +7

    Absolute dictatorship😂😂😂

  • @gregorygray3283
    @gregorygray3283 Год назад

    Impeachment available in France 🇫🇷 I would vote for that

  • @user-he2gl7gm7r
    @user-he2gl7gm7r Год назад +19

    Πολύ ωραίο βίντεο!!!Να είστε πάντα καλά με υγεία!!!+++☦️🛐👋🇬🇷🌹🤍🙋💒👍

  • @bossaudio12
    @bossaudio12 Год назад

    That's horrible

  • @erik6001
    @erik6001 Год назад +12

    Retirement age in Sweden is not 62, it’s 65

    • @racheldlt94
      @racheldlt94 Год назад +3

      Et alors on est pas en Suède mais en France nous, et on se battra pour garder notre retraite à 62 ans !!

    • @enricotucci
      @enricotucci Год назад +2

      ​@@racheldlt94 Et ça sert à quoi ? Appauvrir un pays deja dans la merde ?

    • @yummyprod4485
      @yummyprod4485 Год назад +1

      ​@@enricotucciLes coupes sont à faire ailleurs, les retraites c'est un non sens. On a des milliards depensés les yeux fermés avec le CICE par exemple, sans compter la fraude fiscale, l' impot sur la fortune qui manque...

    • @starvictory7079
      @starvictory7079 Год назад

      ​@@racheldlt94They say in the clip Sweden's retirement is 62!!! The poster just clarified!!

  • @rr-yw1on
    @rr-yw1on Год назад +2

    Why are the French is so selfish? If the pension age doesn't go up, who is going to pay for the migrants with their 7 kids?

  • @eveann5750
    @eveann5750 Год назад +4

    It’s beautiful chaos is delicious

  • @JW-do2wc
    @JW-do2wc Год назад +2

    Retirement ages go up in the years. American retirement right now is 65 but there's talk of increasing it.

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 Год назад +2

      Trump oppose raising age. And I agree with him. Raising age to the point people die or suffer severe health problems before they can enjoy retirement is nothing more than a cruel joke on the seniors.

    • @Omegon8536
      @Omegon8536 Год назад

      @@walden6272 tough

  • @bev8200
    @bev8200 Год назад +6

    all the people have to do is strike together. only do work that supports each other

    • @birdlynn417
      @birdlynn417 Год назад +1

      Cry babies throwing a tantrum.

    • @andrewlilley3660
      @andrewlilley3660 Год назад +2

      @@birdlynn417 Don't be silly, it's the most honourable thing a people can do, is to stand up for their human rights!

    • @Omegon8536
      @Omegon8536 Год назад

      @@andrewlilley3660 you people are so stupid, you think just because you slap the word 'right' onto something that somehow makes you entitled to it

  • @boris8787
    @boris8787 Год назад +2

    LOL - you can't get the age pension until 67 in Australia - wish I could escape to the sane town of Chillingbourne.

    • @ElSquadRider
      @ElSquadRider Год назад

      У нас давно уже на пенсию не надеются. Либо дополнительный источник для жизни ищут, ДО выхода на пенсию. Или не успевают ее получить. Мой дед умер от проблем с сердцем в возрасте 60 лет. Это было 20 лет назад. Он успел получить пенсию 3 месяца. Мое поколение вообще не мечтает, что пенсия будет, в принципе. Хотя вам и без моих рассказов по ТВ вещают, как здесь плохо и ужасно.
      Может быть вы правы, не буду распинаться и доказывать обратное.
      Но закаляемся мы и готовимся к старости уже с 25 лет. Потому что надеемся в основном, только на себя, никак не на пенсию😅

  • @bernardbird5608
    @bernardbird5608 Год назад +4

    Do what you do best!!! Revolt! Viva La France!!!

  • @hisokamorow8388
    @hisokamorow8388 Год назад +1

    Well why the hell did you vote for this guy again?

  • @PMMagro
    @PMMagro Год назад +5

    Life expectancy is going up, we do get older than our parents or grandparents normally. And have longer educations = fewer work years to support a longer retirement. It does not add up unless we work at an older age than before..

    • @nelvaldo.4850
      @nelvaldo.4850 Год назад

      Yes but work expectancy shouldn't!! If more people worked the pension age would stablelise, get all these toe ending benifit scammers who are capable of working and take there mobility scooters of them and stop blaming everything on foreigners!!!!!
      Don't see many mobility scooters on the continent?
      Wonder why ?

    • @sebastiendine4834
      @sebastiendine4834 Год назад +6

      This is true if you assume that this is a zero sum game. This is not. The wealth created by the workers isn't fairly shared between the workers and the shareholders. This wealth which has never been so high thanks to the automation and IT could contribute to the extra cost. The issue is that many tax rules have been introduced during the last 30 years in order to pay less tax. It concerns only the rich persons and the big corporations, not the small companies and the average citizen. We will need up to 10 billions to fund the extra cost of the french pension system. The tax fraud and tax optimization in France cost every year 15 to 20 times that amount needed to keep the pension system untouched.

    • @nelvaldo.4850
      @nelvaldo.4850 Год назад +1

      @@sebastiendine4834 You seem to know your stuff 👏👏

    • @LajtSejbr
      @LajtSejbr Год назад +3

      Most people already have to work over the retirement because of minimum years of work done.
      Say, you have to be over 62 and also do 40 years of work in total. Moving it by 2 more years punishes anyone who started working at 18 and will require them to work more years to get to their benefits.
      If you start working at 30 because of education, you still have to work for those 40 years and will definitely go over the minimum retirement age to get to full benefits.
      The purpose of these changes is to further squeeze the poorest, most hardworking people some more.

    • @michellemobakeng5938
      @michellemobakeng5938 Год назад

      Since the 1980s, the labour market has been reconfigured to put people out of work in the name of an ideology serving the globalist elite. The French economy went through an American revolution as it had to adapt its workforce to different and destructive methods of doing business. Parallelly, the workforce was no longer managed by a Personnel Department but a Human Resources Department. That's an immense difference. I could add to the list.
      What we see is a deliberate warfare on the populations but that's not new. It's all by design, premeditated in cosy offices, chateaus and private residences.
      The 'beast' that is coming out of the ground is hellish.

  • @dongdong9560
    @dongdong9560 Год назад

    Save money and Liston to the People’s Voices!

  • @rachelgates509
    @rachelgates509 Год назад +4

    How I understood it was that by raising the retirement age by two years, it would generate more revenue for the pension fund. Thus, each French citizen would get more money annually in their pension. But he shouldn’t have raised that money on the backs of the working class! Tax the Rich!

    • @peskifrenchi8832
      @peskifrenchi8832 Год назад +1

      Tax the rich!

    • @TapulanHoneyBadger
      @TapulanHoneyBadger Год назад +3

      Hello Rachel
      That's where you're wrong. We (I'm French and was in the protest) won't get more money, but even less than before. The government's lies have been exposed recently : only about 10 000 people will gain less than 100€ per month "thanks" to this reform.

    • @Omegon8536
      @Omegon8536 Год назад

      @@TapulanHoneyBadger good, less money to the useless eaters

    • @kevingarnier6952
      @kevingarnier6952 Год назад

      It's actually the opposite.
      The actual government reduced taxes to the hyper rich, and this reform is here to pay for it. They already cut expenses in unemployment aides and public service (mainly reducing wages/numbers of teachers/doctors).
      The excuse is "France already taxes the rich higher than anyone else". Meanwhile, the 0.0001% of the population generates unprecedented benefits.

    • @jukit3906
      @jukit3906 Год назад

      @@Omegon8536 I see you've not been following what's been happening in Paris. The "useless eaters" lately decided to show what happens when they don't exist: you would think since they are "useless" that nothing would happen, right? And look, and now Paris is about to collapse: trash littering the street, energy blackouts, roads are blocked...
      So be thankful to those useless eaters who provide you a comfortable environnement to live and contribute to society, d*ckhead.