What Happened to Max Lucado?
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Max Lucado has wandered down the social justice path. Why?
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What your seeing my brother is the great falling away . Thank you for speaking truth.
Your statement makes sense to me by reading the Holy Bible, we are warned of it.
My ancestors came from Europe in the 1920's and never enslaved anyone. They also never received anything free but worked hard everyday of their lives.
They were never prejudice against black people at all and in fact always taught me the opposite. That is why I feel totally unaffected by any white guilt.
White guilt is a big lie.
You can thank "satan" for his lies and his deception of the lost !
Elite conservatives like the Pharisees in Jesus day live in their little bubble.
Todays conservatives would consider the "Good Samaritan" as woke and a social justice warrior. Sad how Satan has got the conservative movement in the palm of his hand.
@@elephanttrunk5372 It's really not necessary for you to post the same thing repeatedly. It's quite redundant.
Sharon McConnell While his wife just had a baby - the conservatives "Messiah Trump" was having an affair with a porn star. I guess that's what conservatives mean by family values.
I have recently come to question Max in his teaching. I sent my concern to him and this brings more understanding of the stirring in my spirit. Lord hear our prayers! Let them who have ears hear You Lord!
May God have mercy on Max Lucado and bring him back to the truth of Jesus Christ.
May God have mercy on the phony conservatives
Brother Lucado should hold a prayer vigil for the 60 million defenseless littlle innocent souls who have been torn limb from limb in America. Where is the lamentation for these little souls. GOD is watching, HE is always watching.
Yes I definitely agree
When I was a member of Oak Hills Church, I noticed Max had signed a public statement supporting the Life Chain that is held each year in October to peacefully protest and pray against the sin of abortion. After a Wednesday evening prayer service, I approached Max about having getting permission to set up a table in the foyer where people could sign up to be part of the Life Chain later that year. He refused to help and simply referred me to the calendar committee, which required 6 months notice of any event. I had only 2 months notice. Needless to say that got nixed and I never did see Max and his family actually promote or participate in the Life Chain. So your point is very well taken!
Ok but it’s okay to kill me after I’m born?? Publicly why I cry out?? Don’t match apples and oranges. Yes they are fruit, but verY different. I wonder how many of the people on here have people of color as true friends not just folks you know at church. Jesus stood for social justice because he stood for equality.
Elephant Trunk speak truth
John Montoya True
.. Wow --- this young man is great! He is someone Christians need to hear these days: a voice of excellent wisdom and discretion.
34Packardphaeton This young man is a Deceiver. He said that the eight minutes that this cop had his knee on mr Floyd neck was not the cause of his death. Lying is an abomination .
@@robertgregory9160 ... There was evidence of drugs in Floyd.. as well as Jacob _________, to say nothing of their aggressive behavior, disobeying lawful commands.
34Packardphaeton Sure he had drugs in his system every murdered victim does. I hear he forced his neck under that cops knee for eight minutes. I hear Floyd skipped school when he was in the third grade and lied about it. Then he beat up some kid in high school. The police officer was a model citizen who wouldn’t hurt anyone without cause. I am being sarcastic of course. You can make excuses for this murderer all you want , but what a man sows that shall he also reap.
@@robertgregory9160 The autopsy showed that the knee on the neck was not the cause of death.
@@robertgregory9160 Did you see the video from the cops that showed what really happened..guess not..The media won't show what really happened.
Jon I discovered your channel a few days ago. I am the pastor of a local Baptist Church in Durban, South Africa. I am really enjoying the content and solid biblical stance. Keep up the great and faithful work. Thank you!
Jon is the best! I'm so glad my pastor turned me on to his work.
Anytime the “world” likes something the Church should be suspicious of it. Keep up the good work.
I can't give enough thumbs up to your comment, so true. God Bless You.
Just like after Jesus fed the 5000 and then began preaching , the closer you get to the truth the smaller the crowds become.
Agree
Today's satanic conservatives would consider the Good Samaritan as woke and PC and social justice!
@@elephanttrunk5372 the Good Samaritan helped a man who had just been beaten up by criminals. It's beginning to seem lately that to be "woke and PC and social justice" means criminals no longer exist. They are entitled to their neighbor's goods, they can even kill him and beat him with impunity, for it is probably the victims fault. Do not hold the perpetrator accountable, for that is racism! That is woke, and PC, and today's social justice.
Our pastor decided to tell us all racism is bad. I’m glad because at 57 I didn’t know that without him telling me. I consider virtue signaling disgusting, and cowardly.
Not a word out of him about abortion, or homosexual behavior, etc.
Anyone can call out what everyone knows is bad. No applause from me.
You should confront him in love about this
Mary Wylde you’re right. I’ve talked to him on a few things. He’s a good man. Sometimes I think he’s too careful not to offend. The gospel can be offensive to those living wrong.
We have a pastor here, also in San Antonio, who never speaks about sin. It’s so weird. He doesn’t speak about the list in Romans 1. It’s a mega church. I feel it is dangerous when they promote their huge church over Jesus and the Gospel of Christ. We’re looking for a home church now.
I find myself saying a lot lately: calling out evil doesn't necessarily make you good.
@@michaellautermilch9185 agreed. If boring it doesn’t say much for him.
God bless you for fearlessly speaking the truth. We live in dire times. Blessings
After thirty years, I left Evangelicalism, mostly because I was not "in" enough for it. To be "in" you have to attend the right seminary, have the right friends, get vetted by the right committees, and be let in through the right stage door. Otherwise, if you behave yourself, you can come in the front door and watch the show. The show is over. Let us take up our cross and follow Jesus outside the city (and religious establishment). Jesus is our chief shepherd and teacher.
Today's evangelical leaders are just political puppets. Give them a few earthy goodies and invites to the White House and they will look the other way to sin and wrong.
what church did you attend? not my experience at all
That's why you shouldn't follow a denomination you should have followed Jesus from the beginning 🤷♂️. You need to follow a Christ centered solid church
John Fixsen I’m not sure what you mean that you followed evangelicalism. I became a Christian to follow Jesus. To evangelize means to present the good news. That’s what the word means. It’s an adjective to describe the prime objective given by our Lord, sometimes called the great commission. All Christians are evangelical therefore in theory. It’s good to be involved with believers who are like-minded, no matter what denomination. Evangelicalism is not a denomination per se. Follow Jesus and associate with those who love Jesus. Dissociate from toxic people no matter where they are.
@@prince6a Cathy, I wanted to exhort people to follow Jesus, even if it meant being rejected by the religious establishment, and sent outside the camp, as Jesus was to finish his work. Hebrews 13:12-14. If he is LORD, then read the Gospels and start doing what he told us to do. In doing so--as you implied, you will find many who have believed God's message concerning Jesus of Nazareth who are not under the banner of Evangelicalism. The show is over.
Seems that 2020, year of vision,that our eyes are truly being opened. The wheat is being sifted.Stand firm in your faith and keep your eyes on the one and only Savior. We call him Jesus 👍
I agree, the wheat is being sifted. It is spiritual, the apostasy. That is the only thing that makes sense. For I see even some of my "Christian" friends embracing this same rhetoric that defies all logic.
AMEN. 💖
Happy to call it the year of vision ironically, but as long as we keep in mind that there's nothing remarkable about the year 2020 in any revelatory sense, as if the number has Biblical significance.
Social justice movement is a political religion. Hit the nail on the head
Social justice is Marxism.
Elite conservatives like the Pharisees in Jesus day live in their little bubble.
Todays conservatives would consider the "Good Samaritan" as woke and a social justice warrior. Sad how Satan has got the conservative movement in the palm of his hand.
@@bcspride
You might like the book Marx and Satan by Richard Wurmbrand
While his wife just had a baby - the conservatives "Messiah Trump" was having an affair with a porn star. I guess that's what conservatives mean by family values.
Elephant Trunk. There is only one Messiah, and it’s not Donald Trump lol.
I have felt foir years that God was showing me Max Lucado.is not what he seems. God , thank you for discernment and for this man revealing what we naieve believers need to learn.
I felt the same also. When I look back at the studies we did of his books, they were all very shallow.
Yes, sad that Lucado has been off the rails for awhile, but glad you are aware of this.
Max can only repent for himself. He doesn't know anyone else's heart. And I love Max and have read lots of his books. But he doesn't represent everyone.
The Lord gave our family the privilege to become U.S citizens in the 90’s. I’m Indian by birth but belong to Christ family by adoption. The Lord has blessed us with friends of every color and nationality. I have white FAMILY who have sacrificed so much for me and showered me with love. It breaks my heart to see and hear that the white race which includes my friends and family are now guilty of privilege and have to ask for forgiveness for sins that have nothing to do with them. That’s why preaching Christ crucified must be first and foremost. There is no sin specific to a certain race. At the foot of the Cross we are all the same height. Keep posting the truth bro. Much love in Christ Jesus.
Amen, well said! I am sick of hearing about skin colors & all the rest. We are ONE in Christ. Why are we acting like the world?! We have the message that world needs to hear!
Yes! There is no such thing as " white people " that encompasses all caucasians.
Aaaaaaaaaaamen! Proverbs23: 23
Conservatives are Satan's puppets in this age. How different to Jesus in the Bible.
Undiluted and Uncensored conservatives are just modern day Pharisees. The Bible for conservatives is a useful political tool - nothing more. No wonder you hear vile bigotry hatred and lies spewing out of them.
Their hearts have not been transformed by the gospel.
I just happened to come upon this video. But, more importantly, I know God’s perfect timing. God is good. I’m from San Antonio, and I wanted to visit Max Lacado’s church for a very long time. Now, I feel totally different. I absolutely agree with everything you conveyed to us. Lately, it seems that some pastors or people in general, rather be pleasing to the world, than to God. I’ll be praying for him. Thank you for your videos. God bless you and your family, in Jesus Christ holy name. 🙏✝️💟🛐💜💟
You are doing a good job. I pray the Lord’s protection over you.
Jon, thanks to you, my eyes have been opened to what was going on in the southern baptist convention almost 3 yrs. ago and I left the SBC church that I was a member of and connected with a small Missionary gospel centered loving church. Such a difference! Blessings on you and your family. Praying for your father-in-law
When blm started , id planned to go to a peaceful protest, but unexpected things blocked me. I thank Jesus for that bc it was shortly after I learned from MacArthur vid what their deeper doctrines are. I love it when God gets sooo personal.
Guys like Max Lucado don't speak for me. I don't apologise for anything I didn't personally do to anyone. If people want to have it out with the dead: dig them up and put them on trial.
Mary Kränsel Good point.
And 1 by 1 the emergent Church leaders fall into heresy.
If they are an emergent church they are already in heresy
They are being exposed
Today's satanic conservatives would consider the Good Samaritan as woke and PC and social justice!
I think something happens to "influencers", whether Christian or not, so that as they become "famous" or gather followers that start to become concerned with their "audience" and they become more concerned with how their audience feels about them then sticking with their convictions...especially when they get popular and/or make a lot of money...it's a super tough temptation and easy to fall I would think. Praise & honor to those people (like John MacArthur) who no matter how many "followers" they get they stick to their convictions.
They worship their pastors. I've seen this in many churches.....
Today's satanic conservatives would consider the Good Samaritan as woke and PC and social justice!
I don't believe they were really Christians because if they are, they would hear the voice of God and avoid heresy. We don't have to listen to others for truth,; it is right there in the Bible and Holy Spirit taught to each one. When i listen to Max L- all his life- I heard a snake...and those awful books he wrote- eek!!
Thank you for helping us not feel alone out here with all that’s going on!! So happy your father in law is doing well!!
If one is surprised by Max Lucado doing this, one has not been paying attention to Max's doctrine from the outset.
Totally agree. Christians follow anyone that is promoted on the Christian media without any discernment whatsoever. First tine I heard him I knew something was amiss.
Exactly. Hes always been sketchy
How do you mean? Please explain
@@trudywolcott7419 things that he writes in his ealier books that are not backed by scripture or misinterpreted. it was too long ago when i looked into him so i cant remember exactly but you can research and find info on some of his questionable doctrines. This topic is old news in mind so i cannot remember specifics from that long ago.
@@trudywolcott7419 just a few days ago I saw a video he posted saying everyone's pets would go to heaven with them, ( the Bible does not say that anywhere), but he also said heaven would have a sun and a moon bc we like them, even if they aren't needed. Can't even see the moon in daylight, the Bible says there'll be no night and there's no need of the sun bc Jesus is the light. He's making up stuff that directly contradicts scripture.
When Max recently prayed and apologized for being white, right then I knew that Max has been lost to the world.
Where can I find this? I have read most of Max’s books! Am I ever disappointed!
Oh my not good.. 😭
So true and he used to be so conservative. Money changes people and not for the good.
oh no :(
It is deception rooted in carnal sympathy, NOT in discernment and Truth.
I have never put any pastor or leader on a pedestal. I have always asked the Lord to show me who is lined up with HIM because we,man can be easily deceived. I never felt led to read Any of Lucados books. In 2016 I was glad I had not because when he stood with the Dark instead of the light I knew he was a bit off and when people confronted him the anger and hatred from some of his supporters only validated this belief. We need to pray that God gets ahold of him. It’s much worse for those who lead people astray. It’s not about a man, preacher etc it’s about Jesus.
Well said 🛐
While his wife just had a baby - the conservatives "Messiah Trump" was having an affair with a porn star. I guess that's what conservatives mean by family values.
Carrie Gentz Would you prefer him stand with those who support the liar and Deceiver trump? Would you prefer him lay hands on a man that said he has never done anything to ask forgiveness for as some of your evangelicals have done? Would you prefer him support trump , who called a woman, Omarosa a dog. I don’t think Jesus would. The devil is a liar and the father of lies.
Max Lucado has been off the rails since 2004 yet he sells millions of books. Speaks volumes about the state of the "evangelical church". Jesus said MANY would fall away!! Thank you for bringing this to light.
_"...when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"_ (Luke 18: 8) implying that He might not find any faith left on this big blue marble.
I'm interested in knowing more about what you saw in 2004.
You are so right!! Thank you for your courage to speak the truth!!
What’s one of Satan’s worst weapons against us??.. Guilt about your past....
Good point.
My friend said: "next time satan reminds you of your past, remind him of his future".
Terri Baird good one. Because we all know where he ends up
God said He hates divorce- conservative evangelicals responded by voting for a twice divorced, three times married person who was with a porn star shortly after his youngest son was born.
Worse yet when it's not even your past you're feeling guilty for.
Thanks for this commentary. The last 10 minutes were so helpful in explaining what is going in with the pastors. Myself and my family has been so shocked and in kind of a grieving process with our church shut down and now all of the virtue signaling. It just "feels" like something is very "off" since so many are following the narratives and trends of the media. Those of us who have chosen smaller congregations were not expecting this. I've been volunteering heavily in my church for for whole life and I feel kind of left out in the cold here, confused about all of this.
I'm sure we'll be fine but this is a big deal if you are heavily invested like we were.
Sara @Sara. You spoke my heart! The same thing is happening in my church. We are searching for another place to support and worship. We are heartbroken about what is going on. We have served and worshipped in this church for almost 35 years. We must getting close to the end of this age.
May I suggest you ask your Pastors to open their doors and let the people come out of their own free will?
(That's if you haven't done so)
They need to hear from their members.
@N. Arnett. My Pastor and Elders stand by their position. They chose to participate in “Black Out” day. The doors are open now for services but only a fraction of the congregation are attending. Virtue signaling has taken its toll.
It feels like something is "off" because it is. The Holy Spirit is warning you. Unfortunately, the apostasy is widespread among the churches. It is hard to find a sound church any more.
I can tell you about this event. I live in San Antonio. This was a city wide prayer event for all the events going on right now, (covid) I did not go to the event, so I did not hear any of this. I heard that Max Lucado needed to apologize, I came to this video.
This is very interesting, considering Lucado's tracts do not include a call to repent.
*"...Lucado's tracts do not include a call to repent."* I have listened to a good many of Lucado's videos lately (as a foe, not as a friend) and not one time has he ever talked to his viewers about repentance, nor has he ever encouraged them to holy living or victory over sin. Not once!
2yrs ago..And now the damage ..And look were we are know..Here in MN our Governor would not even call the Guards out to control the mob as the city burned...
The shepherds have become the sheep.
ha! that's the different kind of sheep, the SJ/covid-scammed NWO worshippers;
not the followers of Christ kind.
The deception grows as the Lord is coming for his bride
According to the Bible Jerusalem is the bride.
@@louiseleite3866 Hi Louise! Jesus does indeed refer to Jerusalem as "His bride, the wife of the Lamb" in Rev. 21:9,10. However, He also referred to His people as a bride, in Rev 19:7,8 and His wife in Ephesians 5:25-27 and a few other places. I hope this is helpful, and I wish God's blessings on you my sister in Christ! This is a great resource that may also be helpful: www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/5000/t/the-bride-of-christ May the Lord bless us as we prepare for His imminent return!
@@mastabugfish I'd have to respectfully disagree with you. We, the saints, are the guests. The fine linen that is the righteousness of the saints is Christ Himself, pure, clean and white.
@@louiseleite3866 Well Louise I respect your opinion, and I understand your point of view. I tend to think that it is ok to respectfully disagree with each other, and it makes me sad when people cannot seem to tolerate people's differing opinions in our current climate. I am so glad that is not the case between you and I! May you have a blessed rest of your day my dear!
@@mastabugfish same too you ☆
He has always seemed so flowery and soft in his teaching. Apparently he is more wimpy than I thought.
There's another Christian RUclipsr who calls that "Gummy Bear Christianity."
@@meghoughton562 -- Neither milk nor meat.
Agree! I'm sure Lucifer had a smooth, soothing tongue and a beautiful appearance.
And maybe a smile like Joel Osteen.
We need to get back to basics, stop listening to this or that preacher/teacher, but just read the word of God ourselves, and pray for forgiveness, wisdom and discernment, letting the Holy Spirit lead and interpret for us as we read ! May God be with us ALL at this time x
Well said, Hazel!
Thank you so much for having these very important conversations, keeping the pulse of the culture, please keep it coming!
I've never considered Max Lucado as an actual Christian or any of his books as something that a christian would waste their time reading. To say that I'm not surprised that he's bending over for the cult is an understatement.
Exactly I was thinking the same thing. Max Lucado being super woke is no surprise.
Have you ever read his books or watched his broadcasts?
Mark A. Dever ridiculous... I wonder if Jesus would meet your standards if you met Him in the flesh today?!?!
May I recommend a book that was written years ago. It’s not about You by Max Lucado
@@pamstothersvanalstyne395 Wow! What a completely asinine comment. You obviously put very little if any thought into that before you hit reply. Max Lucado is on par with Jesus in your mind. You definitely want to rethink our actually think before you comment. Do what you will, think what you will. Your welcome to your opinion and learning from your mistakes like everyone else. I wouldn't waste too much time on Max Lucado or trying to get people to read and espouse his material, though. There is so much biblically accurate and actually good material to read that is useful that you don't need to waste time with garbage like that.
Lord have mercy on us!!!!!!
Just FYI Randy Frazee is now lead teaching pastor at Westside Family Church in Lenexa KS. We have family members members there.
So glad that someone is talking about this.
I just went on a live stream service and the pastor told the congregation to pray like warriors for indictments against the government. They named politician's names. Jesus never got involved with politics. He said to give to Caesar what is Caesar's. The church of today is off balance. When you get away from the Word of God this can happen. Many people also put what the Holy Spirit is saying above God's Word. God's Word always comes first and the leading second. The leading of the spirit should line up with the Word of God. Thank you for your wisdom and shedding light on this situation.
I think Max is more concerned with his brand and selling merchandise than God these days. Check out his greeting cards. He has his name plastered on the front of every card in a large font while Bible vs are in tiny print. He has lost his focus. I will not buy his merchandise.
Because i was curious and I didn't watch the whole thing.
Agree!
I watched your video last night and am glad to see young people standing up for what they believe. I agree with you on so many points. I have to say I have a very different opinion of Pastor Lucado. I went through a very tough period in my life and out of the blue my neighbor brought me a Max Lucado book. Through my constant prayers and reading that book I was able to pull myself up again. It was a miracle in my life. His short videos are so needed during this time. I feel that he was trying to bring peace not join in with accepting the looting, violence and killing. Maybe I am wrong but those are my thoughts.
Lynne Harris You are not wrong. He has helped many people. I don’t agree with his position on some of the SJ issues, bit that doesn’t make him insincere.
He Encouraged people to vote for Hillary Clinton that said it all to me
Definitely
So, look who we have now in office. Someone who has absolutely no morals. A sick evil individual !!!
Thanks! I had no idea of that either. These are good things to know for people like me who are used to offline worship but have been thrown onto the internet to seek out communities we’ve lost due to these dictators. I would never vote for that baby-killer! Max seems like a fraud.
Vickie Machen Everyone is a sinner but Trump definitely isn’t the worst, fights for religious freedom, is pro-life and you just sinned by lying. What did you do? Vote for the baby-killer, Hillary? Spend some more time with your Bible before you come to a channel and act superior so you can justify your own actions.
Elite conservatives like the Pharisees in Jesus day live in their little bubble.
Todays conservatives would consider the "Good Samaritan" as woke and a social justice warrior. Sad how Satan has got the conservative movement in the palm of his hand.
Max Lucado has been going down the ecumenical road for a long time. He endorsed "The Ragamuffin Gospel" by Brennan Manning, a Roman Catholic.
Blame satan, not Max !! PRAY FOR HIM !!
Blame Satan? But every one of us has a choice. We choose. On judgement day we all will give an account, including Lucado. Lucado's will be a stricter judgement.
God will not accept our blaming Satan when we stand in front of the Lord on judgement day.
But, yes, pray for him.
I read that book 10 or more years ago and made me fall in love with Jesus more than ever
love all your podcasts, thanks so much ;-)
Thank you for bringing to light what’s happening in the Church.
It’s a very confusing time and your information has opened my eyes. Thank you. Only Jesus!
sadly today's evangelical movement have been hijacked by power hungry conservative elites. The Jesus of the Bible and many of the loud mouth conservative evangelical leaders of today are poles apart.
Hey, I never ever considered him a faithful Pastor, I have heard him many times in the past and was always a bit skeptical. He dropped clue crumbs all over the place. A faithful pastor is always the most un popular one..like John MacArthur.
I never did either. Never found any book he wrote worth reading. Same thing with Rick Warren's purpose driven life. Never could get past the first chapter, didnt seem right.
John Macarthur is a false teacher to he denies that the blood of Jesus is not enough to pay for our sins
@@edwardgamino5742 pls provide me the source! It is evil to take things out of context!
@@edwardgamino5742 , That is not true..I have heard all his sermons word to word from 1969..The only one who opens up the Gospel. listen carefully to his exposition of Roman's and John. The best is Mathew 5..It was because of his sermons that my entire Family who was born Muslim came to understand the true meaning of the atoning power of Jesus..the sacrifice , the justification. John has been Faithful, which is why he is being targeted right now. so, please pray the Lord who is the word show u the truth and open your eyes in wisdom. xoxo
susan scott And you saw correctly Susan Rick Warren is one of the head people of the emergent church Antichrist!!
I was a member of Oak Hills Church for 10 years sitting under the preaching of Max Lucado. I wish to take time to "lament" too, but not because I'm woke and feel guilty for being white, but because of the fact that I sat under his leftist teaching all those years instead of wiping the dust off my feet and leaving. The fact that he supported Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump says everything about his character.
God bless you. Please, Google search www.sidroth.org/kevinzadai posted August 9, 2020. You will find the truth in what the Lord revealed. Most of our Church leaders are not led by the Holy Spirit. "A good Christian is a good citizen." ~ T. B. Joshua. My prayer is for America to get it right for us - the whole world. "They're coming for you, I'm just in the way." ~ Donald J. Trump.
Very helpful. Thanks Jon.
Randy Frazee is no longer at Oak Hills, my husband and I always said he did the tough sermons. Now that he is gone there’s no one to preach the hard sermons. No longer attending....
You make a good point about Max confessing his wrongful thoughts to a whole demographic of people when they didn’t know he had those thoughts and now it causes harm. The 12 Step Program wisely counsels is to make amends but only if it is not going to cause harm. Good principle to live by.
This is amazing. 570 comments so far and while most have been related to the video questioning what happened to Lucado, this has been all over the place, which I guess is fine. I'm not the RUclips police and its not my channel. Let me start by saying that I get things wrong all the time. I am a sinner but am forgiven. I also have grown in my faith over the years to the point where I have a more complete understanding on certain topics than I did say 20 years ago. If you think you know it all and have "arrived" at all the truths, you have been deceived. No one this side of heaven except for Jesus himself can claim to have done so. if you are a Christian, the most important thing to you should be sharing the reason for the hope that you have because of the gift of salvation. This truth should influence everything you say and do,
1. First and foremost, If someone that is not a Christian has stumbled upon these 570 comments, I would be shocked if this has in any way done anything to bring them closer to the saving grace of Jesus. The overriding feeling I get from reading most of the comments is division, unkindness and a lack of unity. Jesus says in John 13:35 "By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.” There's very little that's attractive in all of this.
2. I grew up Church of Christ (the same group that Lucado associated with and preached in for years) and graduated from one of the "C of C" colleges. I learned a long time ago that the Church is much larger than this small affiliated group of churches and there are many wise, highly educated and Godly Christians "outside" of the Churches of Christ. I don't have any regrets for my church upbringing and I am thankful for the foundation it provided, but my spiritual growth did not take place within the walls of those church buildings. Don't depend on your church, preacher, pastor or priest to grow your faith. It's YOUR faith, own it.
3. Regarding Max Lucado (since this is what the video was ultimately about). I don't know the man. Some of you that commented do so you are more entitled to an opinion. I have many of his books and found them to be very refreshing and in ALL cases, his books that I have point you to the cross and encourage a personal relationship with Jesus. I for one love that. It all about Jesus, not any one church, denomination, preacher or church leader. Has Max made a good living off of his books? Probably. There is nothing wrong that. There have been many wealthy God fearing people over the course of history. Unless you are in his inner circle, you don't know his motives, intentions or what he does with his money. Maybe God has blessed him financially and Max uses these financial blessings to further the kingdom. I don't know, but to come to conclusions without facts is unfair.
4. Lucado's participation in events that extend beyond the church affiliation that he is a part of in my opinion is exactly what we are called to do. Note I didn't say taking a position contrary to God's character or His desires for us is acceptable. Jesus prayed for oneness in John 17 before going to the cross. If he was sweating blood on that dreadful night, can you imagine what he is feeling now when he looks at the division among his believers? News flash, if you believe in the empty tomb, have accepted his gift of salvation by faith, confessed for and repented of your sins and have been baptized to receive the Holy Spirit and to publicly announce your acceptance of Jesus' lordship, then you are in the kingdom. The book of life has your name in it, not the church you attend or your position on pre ,post, mid millenialism, speaking in tongues, or any other non-salvation issue that we use to separate ourselves. So sad. The church extends well beyond what you (and me) have experienced as the "right way" to do church.
5. Lucado associating with those that we feel are in error or are on the "wrong side of the fence"- yep he probably has and so have you and I. Again, I don't know the man and I truly hope his faith has not gotten watered down over the years. Maybe it has, maybe not. Maybe his actions of inclusion are intentional to influence and be a light to those that may be "in error". I am reminded of the story in Acts 18 about Apollos who was teaching in error. You can read that on your own. Another news flash: as sinners, WE ARE ALL IN ERROR. If you have been a Christian for a while and you still believe everything just as you did the day you were saved, then you are not growing in Christ.
6. Lastly, it may seem like it but I am not coming to Max Lucado's defense. I can't defend him because I don't know him. I don't know what's in his heart and he doesn't need me or anyone to defend him. Are we called to discern? Absolutely. If his heart is pure, God has his back and that is all he needs. The point of all my rambling is let's be the church. Time is short. Jesus is coming back and there are a lot of lost souls out there that need to hear the good news. You (and me) may be their only chance to hear about the hope we have in us that leads to salvation. I apologize for being so lengthy. I seldom post anything, but just felt compelled to share my thoughts on this.
I leave you with a couple of verses that are of hallmark importance to me: Micah 6:8 - "What does the lord require of you, but to do justice, love kindness and walk humbly with God" and Matthew 22:37-39 "“You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
May God bless each and every one of you as you strive to be like Christ in all you do. Love covers a multitude of sins and thank God for that. Keep on loving.......
I agree with your assessment on this whole conversation with everyone in this forum.
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my2sons8791 I couldn’t agree with you more!
"Keep on loving......."
True enough. That's why we need information like we got in this video from Mr. Harris.
Error is deadly. This Woke thing is idolatry. We need to know about it. A big "thank you" to Jon Harris for being loving and pointing out hypocrisy and error.
While his wife just had a baby - the conservatives "Messiah Trump" was having an affair with a porn star. I guess that's what conservatives mean by family values.
I’ve read lots of his books, but I threw them all away after he walked away from the faith.
I thought something was wrong with Max Lucado's theology. I noticed the same "off center" preaching in my former church and left. My new church was better, but I began to notice their theology was also beginning to slide also. I met twice with the pastor and an elder about things that bothered me. I think he began to study up on things I had brought up. He ended up leaving the church and now looking into returning to seminary. Keep up the good work.
1Tim 5:19-20: "Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. As for those who persist in sin, *rebuke them in the presence of all,* so that the rest may stand in fear."
Paul rebuked Peter publicly.
I think the private rebuke is only for non-elders.
It makes it very confusing when people we have looked up to and learned from suddenly go in other directions. Thank you for keeping it about the simple Gospel, with no fear of man.
My husband I use to really like Max and we even attended/taught at his Oak Hills congregation 20+ years ago. He has brought politics into his ministry.
Franklin Graham and other Conservative ministers have done the same thing-- violating Galations 3.They say things that strongly infer (and even outright state) that one must vote a certain way to be a real Christian, or they're condemned by God himself for not voting Republican! Most don't realize how this is heretical. And it's so widespread.
Absolutely spot on! I appreciate how you approach subject matter. Thank you!
You are holding the feet of the church to the fire. You are a young man, but you have wisdom because you are in the Word. Thank you ..GOD said that the things that have been in the dark, would be brought into the light. As a 74 year old, and a lover of the LORD, I stand in awe of how quickly and world wide God is shaking up the church. I remember many years ago, God showed me He would bring the church through the refiner's fire first! I was brought to tears. Stand firm. Be strong and courageous...
You should at least listen to Max's explanation for what he is doing. I don't always agree with Max, but I've known him for 30 years and his heart and motives are pure.
news4sanantonio.com/news/san-antonios-voice/podcast-max-lucado-responds-to-racism-apology-criticism
Today's satanic conservatives would consider the Good Samaritan as woke and PC and social justice!
Elephant Trunk Your comment has nothing to do with this post.
My thought, too, along with possibly the example of Jesus being accused of "hanging out with sinners" while He was reaching those in the world. I would draw a line, though, if Max promotes the separatist and guilt driven gospel of woke critical theory. 🙏🇺🇸✝️
I went to that link and I see it is a 40 minute interview. Lucado starts off telling how so many people now are worried and wounded. So I bailed out. I dont have time to listen to that nonsense.
I've never been impressed with Max Lucado. Someone bought me a book of his as a gift. I read some of it & thought, "Oh that's nice. He strings a bunch of pretty words together that sound Christian but help nobody. I'll pass." I'm always skeptical of guys like him who are universally loved.
You help to bring clarity around the very current and relevant topic of racism which is being heavily promoted everywhere, including inside many churches. Very logical & well presented. Everyone needs to consider this topic at this most critical time in world history.
Have we, as Christians, forgotten that our mortal enemy is the “Father of Lies” and the “Deceiver”? Perhaps it is our pride that causes us to let our guard down and we are wide open to accepting deception. If the enemy cannot convince a believer to accept a gross heresy, wouldn’t he be satisfied to sneak in a little leaven that begins to work on the whole and eventually corrupts in the same way? Matthew 7:13-14 says, “But small is the gate and narrow is the road that leads to life, and few will find it.” If we take one small step off that narrow path and keep walking, pretty soon we look back and can’t even see that narrow path. Every step is important and should be covered in prayer and humbly checked that it is in conformity to the revealed Word of God.
The wide way is a slippery slope.
I’m glad there’s someone else who finds it difficult to differentiate between false teachers who KNOWINGLY preach the wrong gospel but SEEM OK, as they use scripture to back themselves up, & those who UNKNOWINGLY preach the wrong gospel etc Whatever Max has done ‘wrong’ this is the first time in the uk 🇬🇧 I’ve heard about it & I’m sorry, because I’m sure if he KNOWS or REALISE he’s erred, he would be the first to repent ! Only Max & God know what’s in his heart, and Max knows enough about God’s Word ie scripture, than I ever will ! Max has had a lifetime walking with the Lord, plus experiencing His goodness and loving kindness ! CHRISTIANS, it’s hard enough fighting the world without fighting between ourselves !
Pastors do prayer vigil types of events when there are thousands/millions of people who are tuned into a controversy. They exploit these situations just like politicians do for the same reasons. They seek massive attention.
They are opportunists. Never let a crisis go to waste.
Hey Jon, I know this kind of video is less normal for what you post, but this kind of thing is really helpful and especially for sharing with people who are not nornally inclined to theological depth or biblical fluency. Yourcadence, presentation, and pacing of scripture and argumentation here is incredibly helpful. Please make more videos in this format!
Thank you for sharing your point of view. Ive had my pastor for 31 years and I can tell you that he would not have had the time nor volition to author 130 books....to me ML is an author and should not be shepherding a flock and certainly with the racist inclinations he is confessing he should step down from ministry.
Funny I was listening to Max just the other day, I couldn't put my finger on it; but he seemed different and I came away wondering what has changed about him
Linda Taylor I embrace Bethal music and not ok with this. Max is my Teaching Minister
@@sarahb7440 That's to bad,Sarah.You can have them both.Ill stay With Jesus as my Teacher.
Eric Rohrer Obviously you didn’t understand that I’m not ok with this. As for Bethel music, I’m singing for the Glory of the Lord, not man.
Bethel Church is not a Christian church. It is a man-centered not God-centered church. One of the things they preach is the false Prosperity Gospel. 80% of what is preached at Bethel, Hillsong, and Elevation churches is unbiblical. I have patients who have come out of these churches with really messed up minds.
@@karenthompson1539 Karen, thanks for your comments here. I am gaining some insight from your words.
Very sad to see a great guy all of sudden go left. its a function of cheap grace.
You channel was recommended to me. I'm glad I tuned in
I just read the comments of many christians criticizing and ridiculing pastor Lucado...so sad..
As christians we have a responsibility to pray for people and Love them, not judge them. If they have bad teaching, then acknowledge it and move on. And if someone asks you about the person, tell them what you think, but don't personally attack them. There is a difference between being critical about a person's ministry and attacking the actual person.
If you feel someone is teaching deception, assuming you are right, then the person is deceived and needs our prayers of Love. The Bible tells us that Love is the greatest virtue. and it never fails.
Jesus met us where we were at, while we were still yet sinners, He died for us. To measure some sin as greater than another is not biblical. All sin no matter how little or how "big" will send you to hell without Christ. But Jesus came into our lives while we were in lives of sin, while we were deceived and deceivers.
If Max Lucado is teaching deception, then He needs to be presented with the true Jesus. Jesus hung out with sinners and met them while they were still in sin and deception.
I truly hope and pray that Max Lucado will have an encounter with Jesus that will show him who Jesus really is and what to teach about Him.
Blessings,
Sorry but your comment of not judging them is not scriptural. If it is about opinions like whether to eat meat, drink alcohol, special days, etc then there's no judgment; you must make up your own mind. However, regarding everything else, we are to be judged according to the word of God. Paul said the Bereans were nobler than the Thessalonians because they tested i.e. judged, everything he said against the scriptures. Jesus said you shall know them by their fruit. Is their fruit Biblical or not? Jesus also said do not judge according to appearance but dso judge righteous judgment. The apostle John said to test i.e. judge, the spirits to see whether they are of God. And it goes on and on. Yes, we should always be praying when doing it, but we also need to warn others if the person is teaching falsely. The problem is Lucado is now advocating Marxists (i.e. Satanist) doctrine, that whites (as a group) are responsible for the horrors of slavery/racism, when God said in Ezekiel that the son is not responsible for the sins of the father and vice versa; each is responsible for their own sin and the solution is Jesus Christ.
Paul judged Peter pretty fiercely and publically and gave him a verbal beat down for his good and the good of the church right in front of others and to his face. It had such an Impact that Peter later said in his 2nd book 2 Peter 3:14Therefore, beloved, as you anticipate these things, make every effort to be found at peace-spotless and blameless in His sight.f
15Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters,g speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort,h as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction."
So basically he gives Paul a big nod and thank you for his wisdom. Teachers are and must be held to an even higher standard than a member of the church according to the scriptures (see letters to Timothy and Titus).
Walter Correia what you said in the beginning is great. Now you’re saying that ML is turning toward Marxism because he attended one prayer vigil in June?
jimflys2 Paul confronted Peter because he had a personal relationship and knew how he thought, etc. You all don’t even know Max Lucado personally but you judge him so harshly. You’re “ripping him apart and devouring him”. That’s of satan, the father of lies. Again... read Max Lucado’s book “It’s not about you” see where this man is coming from while forever changing the way you look at ministry.
@@berean700 My comment is based on the Bible and I will you explain why.
There is a difference between holding someone accountable and being judgmental.
Accountability is holding someone to the standard of Scripture that you know without a reasonable doubt they have broken, and it often comes with permission. Being judgmental is pinpointing, talking about, criticizing, and making assumptions about what is hidden in the heart of a person and their intentions.
Although we are called to right judgment of explicit sin, we must not confuse it with being judgmental. A judgmental spirit is a critical spirit which is in direct contradiction to what the Bible teaches about building up the church. Wrongful judgment can turn into slander, tearing down others, or unnecessary arguments. The verse “judge not” I referenced in my comment comes from one of Jesus’ teachings in the Bible in the book of The Gospel of Matthew.
Matthew 7:1-2 Jesus says, “Judge not, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.. In the first 2 sentences Jesus gives a very clear statement…“judge not” and then He gives a clear reason why “or you too will be judged...” Jesus’ command to not judge others is given as a motivation for us to avoid judgment ourselves..
Jesus didn’t teach against judging. He taught against a specific kind of judging. The type of judging he spoke against was a blind, ignorant, hypocritical, self-righteous judging that overlooks one’s own faults, failures and sins and only sees faults, failures and sins in other people.The issue Jesus is going after is the pride that was in the people’s hearts which made it easy for them to see other people’s faults, but be blinded to their own.
Jesus wasn’t telling people not to judge. He was telling people not to be a hypocrite when you judge. He’d been speaking to a crowd about what true righteousness is. He’d been talking about issues of the heart and about what makes a person pleasing before God. He was teaching against people having a critical, condemning, self-righteous, judgmental attitude toward other people
That kind of judgmentalism was found in the hearts of many of the religious leaders of Jesus’ day and among the crowd who was listening. And if we’re honest, it’s an attitude that’s present in our own hearts.
If we’re honest, we find ourselves being critical people by nature. We tend to think that we see things rightly and that others are wrong. We tend to think that our reasonings and our perspectives are at least just a little better than people we disagree with. We seem to be quick to find fault and condemn people.
Jesus was under no illusion that speaking truth to other people was a bad or unloving thing. He never intended to prevent His people from making insightful, wise and accurate judgments about situations or about each other. No, He knows that we were created to speak truth into each other’s lives. Truth is a good thing.
We should take careful watch over our mouths and minds
As we seek to judge rightly, we should do so slowly, and with “unity of mind, sympathy, brotherly love, a tender heart, and a humble mind” (1 Peter 3:8-12).
Harsh, unforgiving judgment is wrong. We are “always to be gentle toward everyone” (Titus 3:2)
And as I said in my previous comment, it is very sad to see how so many Christians judge without love ...
Now these three remain: faith, hope, and love - but the greatest of these is love.
1 Corinthians 13:13
Blessings..
38:55 "Woe to you when men speak well of you, for so their fathers to the false prophets." Luke 6:26
My issues with Max were more theological. Now even more so. He really buys into the Left Behind stuff, but I am A-Mil. Good fiction though, just not in harmony either with the Gospel or the rest of scripture. We'll meet Christ in the air, but that's the end babe. Judgement ensues. No time to hang around and come to faith after being terrorized for s few years. Like punishment brings faith.....hmm.
Was Max going to the neighborhoods that were being looted and burned to pray with those families? Was he meeting with the families of LE Officers who were hurt /blinded by rioters? If he wasn't he is simply catering to evil.
This is an awesome commentary - really appreciate it.
I never bought into Lucado. He's always been a lightweight. Just a step above Osteen and a step and a half below David Jeremiah. Always linked to pop christian psychology, always endorsing Heritical books like The Shack!
What happened to Max Lacado? The answer is simple, we are in the end times, true shepherds will stay true to the bible and all the hirelings are about to be exposed. Lacado is a hireling. When the hireling sees the wolf approach he caves in, when a shepherd sees a wolf he protects the sheep. Read John 10, The Lord is sifting out His church.
Really?? Jesus is NOT the Shepherd of Privilege and Prosperity. Read the Scriptures!! He is the Son of God---humble and willing to love and save all if us-----all humans made in the Father's likeness.
@@susanlabar9591 How does your comment respond to Remnant Preacher's comment?
Absolutely
*"Lacado is a hireling. "* Very true, R P. I have watched quite a few of Mr. Lucado's videos lately and I am appalled at his sermons. He truly is a II Timothy 5: 3 kind of preacher. _For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires._
@@IsaacNussbaum My sheep know my voice. John 10:3-5
Amen. This is what I've been saying since they began using the "oppressed" rational for CRT. No one owns oppression and I would drill down farther that just a group. Every single person experiences oppression in some way from someone. A race isn't unique to that phenomenon. That oppression might be being bullied in school, oppression at work, from family, etc. Every person experiences this in some way at some point in their life. That doesn't give any one of us special priviledges or the claim that one group is special because of it or another group is to blame for it. Blame for oppression happens at the individual level, not "groups."
I just found you on You Tube I’m a born again Christian. I’m also a Lumbee Indian from Pembroke North Carolina. Native American Indians don’t do evil stuff . Unless they are Lost / unborn / not a Christian.
Is it showing love , to feed into their BLM misconceptions. Point out rruth, dont fall for their false gospel.
I just feel like saying one thing. I heard an old-time preacher once say that you never have to point out the crooked stick, just lay the straight one down and the one that is crooked will be obvious to anyone who truly looks.
I will be honest I didn’t listen to a near-hour long video that evidently reports all the wrongs of Lucado. But that is over 50 minutes to instead listen to teaching about The only name whereby men can be saved. See ya 👋
I will be honest too. Why find fault with something you didn't listen to? I love the crooked and straight stick analogy though.
cinnie2 yeah I should have not said anything. Please forgive me.
@@hattiebgood No worries. I was probably too quick to respond to you and for that i apologize too :) God bless.
Bonnie Ronson I’ve listened to 24 minutes and knew after the first two minutes that this didn’t feel right. Why the intense passion about criticizing another Christian? So much energy that could be spent saving souls.
This was very well done! Such an awesome tie-in with the Scripture. Thank you.
I think as far as Black Lives Matter goes when pertaining to matters of the church, you have to as an individual DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. Yes Black lives do matter. The organization Black Lives Matter is not something that lines up with Christian values but many people fail to educate themselves on knowing the difference. If we are honest with ourselves and ask The Holy Spirit to lead us, it is very clear that equality for all is something that is not genuinely true in this nation and unfortunately the church has done a faulty job at being different in this aspect. The Black Lives Matter "issue" isn't only a social justice issue, for Christians IT IS A HEART ISSUE. The phrase "black lives matter", means Black lives are just important as everyone else and should be treated as such. However, one will never understand that point if they choose to remain ignorant to the structures that have been set up in place against black people from the very start on this nation that was stolen from it's Native people. The church needs to continue to talk about this (yes it's difficult and yes it can get messy, but so is sin). In some ways having these types of discussions will be able to gain people to Christ. Some people don't care what you know until they know you care. Making an attempt to learn more about someone who is different from you is an example of love. Understanding and picturing yourself in the shoes they walk in is an example of Love. Jesus said the greatest commandment is to love God with all your heart mind and strength and to love your neighbor as yourself (Heart Issue).
"For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil", ...and ye shall be woke... For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, (WOKNESS) have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Just found you, great insight! Thanks for this and your desire and proclamation for Bibical truth during these confusing deceptive times!
Only by Grace!
Thank you for this video
I remember when that happened..I wonder how grounded in the word was he to believe the lie of the Satan..
The only solution to what’s going on in our country is by embracing the way of escape Jesus provided for us in the ONE NEW MAN. No distinctions there and everyone is equal.
I'm pretty sure Lucado holds a non-Lordship position.
Social justice is the least of his problems
*"Social justice is the least of his problems"* Well said, Chris. You are absolutely right.
Someone really ought to introduce Lucado to Voddie Baucham and have a discussion about social justice and debate about how the church should respond. But Lucado, like many other evangelical CRT fans, has fully drank the Kool-Aid of the world. As Paul states, "See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ."
The presumed sins of our ancestors are not our sins.
Thank you for your wisdom and discernment.
“If you dip into any college, or school, or parish, or family - anything you like - at a given point in its history, you always find that there was a time before that point when there was more elbow room and contrasts weren’t quite so sharp; and that there’s going to be a time after that point when there is even less room for indecision and choices are even more momentous. Good is always getting better and bad is always getting worse: the possibilities of even apparent neutrality are always diminishing. The whole thing is sorting itself out all the time, coming to a point, getting sharper and harder.” ― C.S. Lewis, That Hideous Strength
If Paul was telling Peter that he didn't have to keep the law, then can you explain what Paul meant when he said, "Do we then nullify the law? May it never be! We establish the law."
Or Matthew 5:17? Or 1 John 2:3-7? Or all the hundreds of verses that call the law a blessing, a lamp, good, righteous, truth, the list goes on and on and on. What is the scripture that separates the "ceremonial" law out from the rest. God is calling his church back to his word. Perhaps you might consider reading all of scripture rather than the cherrypicked passages that seem to abolish the law. They are a direct contradiction to the words of Christ himself. See where the weight of scripture lies. I challenge you.
Cindy Wyatt the difference is in who is being addressed. Be it Jews or Gentiles. The ten commandments are for us all, but some laws like dietary. Circumcision and others are not mandatory for Gentiles like it is for the Jews.
Cyndy is correct. ...and revival is here, but false doctrine is keeping the church from recognizing it. What did Elijah stress during his ministry? What does this verse mean? “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes. And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers.” The spirit of Elijah is here. Don’t miss out. 1john 5:3
Randy left a few years back. Alot of members are leaving also. My wife and I stopped going recently when he was bringing up racism in his serums.
Unfortunately, far too many Christian leaders do not care about rigorous faithfulness to the word of God. Many use and manipulate the word of God to reach their desired result.
Lucado is a Bill Hybles, Rick Warren Lackie. He's always been a Pop christian exponent. Had enough of them in my life. Give me quality time in God's Word and genuine verse by verse expositors of God's Word! Go join the Social Justice warriors Max! You couldn't bribe me to listen and pay attention to you!