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Nice video! Could you maybe put a link to the channel Nerdy Friends ? They have good deck profiles and I am sure they deserve a little shout out in the comments :)
So, the real reason Dungeon Dice Monsters exists is because the creator of YuGiOh, Kazuki Takahashi, originally grew up loving table top RPGs and since the manga was straying away from what he originally wanted it to be, he decided to add that into the manga inbetween the Battle City arc and the Duelist Kingdom arc just to take a break from the card game while he worked on fleshing out the rules. Also, Pegasus straight up dies in the manga. And Joey never wore a dog costume in the manga. That was just some weird add-on to add filler to the show. (Literally grew up with YuGiOh so I've learned too much about this stuff)
Duke was sent by his father to kill Yugi for supposedly killing Pegasus. Also, it's Yugi playing instead of Atem. In the anime, the duel was split into the Dungeon Dice episodes and the Bandit Keith duel at the start of Battle City. There are a lot of the same themes, like the Millennium Puzzle being stolen and shattered after the duel.
Armyn13 actually in the manga duke was sent by his father to get revenge on yugi, for a game duke and yugi's grandfather played that horribly aged duke's father, with duke playing ddm vs yugi with the millennium puzzle at stake.
lol Capsule Monsters was HORRIBLE! The figures were nothing short of awesome, but god the game was stupid. Not to mention it barely got distribution. Also, don't forget yugioh dice masters (which I collected the hell out of)
@@evilmidget Wait, there was another thing called Capsule Monsters? That was the name that Satoshi Tajiri wanted to give Pokémon but he couldn't for copyright reasons.
While it had its quirks, I loved DDM. The Japanese version especially, since the dice were basically replicas of those used in the anime. The GBA version of the game also has an amazing soundtrack!
Atem in the anime sure is a nice dude for a guy who probably had people executed if they disrespected him and took war prisoners as slaves lmao. It would be cool to see a reimagining of Yu-Gi-Oh were Atem is an actually malevolent spirit that Yugi has to try to reason with for him not to do terrible things to people rather than a just a big boy, deep voiced version of himself.
@@elijahdavila3684 Check out YuGiOh season 0, Toei did the animation and only about 4 episodes have card games as the main focus, other than that its a sadistic Yami, who loves playing games and mindfucking people
Technically they didn't *completely* forget about it. There was actually one line way later in the show where they're all sitting around doing nothing and Duke briefly suggests they play Dungeons Dice Monsters to pass the time. Just thought that was neat that they acknowledged it like that.
I think it’s funny that later we see Duke working part time in the mall in the Yugioh movie 2017 as a server. Guess the game didn’t take off as much as he hoped.
Yeah Konami screwed over the game completely the moment they changed the board. I could accept Synchro Monsters & XYZ Monsters as you could still play without using them if you wanted. I refuse to accept Link Monsters are anything more than a spinoff game. Konami sucks & ruined Yugioh with their excessive greed. They could have easily made spinoff rulesets although were too lazy to make banlists for more than 1 game. DeckMaster Duels, Turbo Duels (Tabletop Form), & Link Duels all could have been successful spinoffs of the Main Game. Konami's a really scummy company beyond Yugioh, that often screws over the properties it owns these days. DeckMaster Duels you would have a list of approved Deck Masters with effects you could use based on the Virtual World Saga of Season 3. Turbo Duels would utilize Speed Counters & could have been successful for the 5Ds Era. Link Duels as a spinoff could have prevented us from losing the true ruleset of Yugioh.
@@10tailedbijuu The game wouldn't have become stale without new gimmicks. The needless obsession with gimmicks ruined the cardgame to many fans. Keep in mind that GX didn't need to introduce a new gimmick. What Vrains did made the game completely unplayable. The Card Game lasted for 8 full years on just the basic formula. There wasn't a need to add XYZ only 3 years after Synchros, it could have waited another 2. Arc V didn't really need to have a new gimmick in Pendulum Summons.
That weird moment when Yugi challenged a guy to a game of "stop the stopwatch before a giant pendulum rips your hand off" Never figured why that game never took off IRL.
Worth mentioning is that the japanese version was much better, each die had unique sides to it (as opposed to the stock dice that are provided in the us release), they folded like the dice in the show, each figure pack had its own unique die in it that folded out into the maze (so you weren't stuck with the few maze patterns provided in the us release) and figures seemed to look better. I imagine if the us release was like the jp release, it would have done at least slightly better because what we got was bare bones. The starter set in japan even had more monsters so you could have a more fleshed out battle.
There were quite a number of problems with those fold out dice. 1. They could NEVER stay flat, not unlike that horrid game mat the starter set came with. 2. They didn't always stay together when they were closed. 3. There was no way to associate a die with a monster, so you could just make a broken set of dice, but use whatever monsters you want. 4. The path shapes were very limited, especially in the starter set. 5. No unique colors, so there was no way to tell your opponent's paths from your own except for a little name tag on one of the squares.
The day after the Dungeon Dice episodes had aired in my country I went right down to my nearest bookstore in hopes that they had magically gotten this "new cool game" in stock over night. Hahahahah. They never did :P
When we look into the video game segment, Yu-Gi-Oh had three Tabletopgame Attempts. Dungeon Dice Monsters, Duelist of the Roses (where the Cards were moved on a board) and Capsule Monsters Coliseum (which had his own fillerarc in the series). I think, all three were actually interesting concepts.
To this day Graceful Dice,Skull Dice, and Dungeon Dice Monsters honestly gave me this fascination for any game that uses dice. Dice are just pretty cool
I traded a Magic Cylinder I pulled from my first Labyrinth of Nightmare pack for a Skull Dice because of that same fascination. I've lived a life of regret.
I never really got into tabletop games, but after reading the original manga volumes 6 and 7 with that game with Bakura, I went out and bought my own 10-sides die because I thought it looked cool
Everyone needs to read the manga especially pre-Duelist! I adored the show as a kid but when VIZ did Monthly Shonen Jump I lost my shit with Yugioh's early chapters and loved how even more ridiculously over the top it was. The art is so great too! First arc is Atem making shadow games on steroids for any transgressions. Lied for TV ratings? BITCH, NOW YOU BLIND!
@@ianmclean2894 yeah that's true, I was just joking because of how there are always people asking about the digimon videos but I'm aware he does other great videos.
Aside from the Gameboy Advance game, I never saw Dungeon Dice Monsters in stores. Fortunately the GBA game was still pretty fun, and cheaper in the long run.
The game as a whole was pretty unbalanced. If most of your pool is low-level monsters you can clutter up the map and prevent your opponent from summoning
@@Cyber_Elf_ElpizoYeah, that was one of the stronger strategies. Heck, the anime episodes on the game itself featured that. I'm sure had the game continued on further they would have introduced things to help balance it more.
I remember watching the show and getting bored of the absurdity of how all the world's problems got resolved playing a card game but then I read the first copy of the manga and saw just how dark the story was originally intended to be. Yugi set a guy on fire, that was so metal. It was like if Jig Saw was an anti hero.
That playmat of the Field you’re using is outdated. You should find the one from Yu-Gi-Oh! Vrains. The Pendulum Zones are now a part of the far left and right Spell/Trap Zones. Also they added Extra Deck Monster Zones.
They still exist though? Pendulums is one of the dumbest mechanics ever introduced into a card game. Ruined the game for me. Sorry its a no from me, dawg.
I remember actually seeing this in shops except for capsule monsters which didn't appear at all, so i feel like this was almost a spiritual successor to it.
7:03 >"What even is this?" >Doesn't even show the current, even more convoluted format. Hoo Billiam are you in for a shock when you hear the words "Link summon" and "Extra Monster Zone"
Konami really should have made the Link Duel Format a spinoff, although instead they chose to ruin the game for older players entirely. At least with the Pendulum Zones we could still summon our Fusions/Synchros/XYZ monsters normally, these days only those who watch VRAINS are allowed to officially play the game. Vrains was never even released in the United States other than in card form. We're reduced to smuggling the anime around subbed on the internet if we want to understand anything anymore.
@@WaterKirby1994 I won't recommend for you to talk for all old players. Some actually came back and even myself, which last summoning I got introduced to was synchro, still caught up with the game mechanics and stuff. While I agree, that things changed a lot (to be fair, I'm from a 12 year hiatus), I still do like and enjoy the game and am glad that I caught up on coming back.
@@asmylia9880 I'm never going to forgive Konami for what they did with Yugioh. There was no need to introduce new gimmicks every 3 years, it's too much change way too fast. The need for Link Monsters to even play the game now was infuriating. As well as the crap they did with the Stateside distribution of the anime, which for VRains never happened. It takes far too long for me to learn things, so I was forced to retire from Yugioh forever. Supposedly there will be a new gimmick in another year while I'm still trying to understand the new rules. You're talking to someone who misses 1 per deck Monster Reborn. Konami never thinks to try to go back to old overlooked Duel Styles like Tag Duels, Deck Master Duels, Labyrinth Duels, & Tabletop Riding Duels for the TCG. I would have preferred they did that rather than just keep changing up the main game. Remember Dungeon Dice Monsters? If Link Duels were established as a special format for the Yugioh card game rather than the main format I would probably still have interest in the card game.
@@WaterKirby1994 pfft you dont actually NEED link monsters to play. not too long ago a dude won an official tournament with a blue eyes deck. and even though i only play casually i still beat my friends more than i lose with a spell counter based deck... granted i use pendulum monsters, but ive only actually pendulum summoned twice ( the deck doesnt actually need to, its more about spell counter management)... that being said though i went up against a competitive level link deck and got wiped.. couldnt keep up with it. still though, it IS possible to win without it, but a lot more difficult.
Connor Wood I would really like to see this video too, I got interested in it and managed to grab a starter set off eBay one day, but had such trouble finding it I haven’t gone and opened it yet.
7:04 It's actually a little more complicated now because of the Special Summoning Zones, and a lot more complicated when you bring Link monsters into the mix.
@@ShadowJay98 I think the pendulums make sense since they are kinda spells and giving them their own slots seemes like having extra spell/trap zones. But thats just my opinion.
ShadowJay98 They added Link monsters, a new type of extra deck monster that changed a lot about the way the game is played. Now any monster that's summoned from the extra deck goes into the extra monster zone, making it so that you can only control one extra deck summoned monster at a time. Unless of coarse you summon a Link Monster to the extra monster zone, in which case you can then summon extra deck monsters to any zone a link monster points to. The way the pendulums zones are makes sense given that pendulum monsters are sort of half spell card and were a bit overpowering last gen so I can see this and extra monster zones being made as a way to nerf them......it just worked a bit to well.
ShadowJay98 I'll try to keep it as textbook basic as I possibly can. Extra Monster Zone, any card that you summon from the Extra Deck, if it's Fusion, Synchro, XYZ, Face-Up Pendulum, or the new Link Monsters, must be summoned in one of these zones. Link Monsters can, lack of a better term, turn other Monster Zones into Extra Monster Zones so you can still summon from the ED multiple times a turn. If you summon from the grave or banish zone, this does not apply. Master Rule 4, the Link Summoning update, made it to where the Pendulum Zones were shoved into the S/T Zone and occupy that space. You are still able to use normal Spells and Traps there, but you have to use those spots if you want to set your Pendulum Scale. In short, Links, Extra Monster Zones and the change to Pendulum Zones were all to nerf Pendulums.
Brandon Green I got chewed out when I said the format especially after 5Ds was way too bullet proof for new comers. The Dragon Ball Super card game is a good example. Its attracting all kinds of attention (Release in Canada or make an online component damn you). You can explain all the game rules in the time it took you just to explain what zones are just now, but still has depth. I worry for the community. It seems to be shrinking steadily.
1:35 Ddm was not the only spin off that was made. There was capsule monster Coliseum like in the original manga series but that was only on console not in a physical toy & board game form
Dude I grew up watching and loving the first generation of Yugioh, I had years without playing the card game (I was very good a it), and when I saw some 13yr old kids playing I went to go check it out... I was so lost didn't know what they were talking about. Synchro, pendelum, xys Same with pokemon, I remember that as a kid I played using my favorite pokemon, didn't care if they were weak or not, now in days kids that play pokemon use the strongest or the best ones to use to battle someone. Times do change...
The ARC-V play mat wasn't that different from regular play mats, it just added in the Pendulum Zones, and compared to the old one I had, gave an actual spot for the side deck cards and the banish zone. Not sure if mine had Field or not but eh. Now VRAINS, on the other hand... woo boy...
"Dungeon Dice Monsters were too expensive and time consuming." Looks at his 1000+ model collection of Space Orks, Imperial Guard, Tyranids, Genestealer Cult and Chaos/Nurgle Cultists that is literally thousands dollars of plastic cocaine and years of man-hour spent on painting. Send help.
Yeah, feels like the real reason was that you needed a board/dungeon map. Table top Strategy games just need you to turn up with an army (plus dice and tape measure I guess) and you can play anywhere. The other problem I think was that the episode of the show came out about a year before the game itself was widely available.
I remember getting this as a kid, tried to play my younger brother who had no clue how to play and pretty much just ended up playing myself. The GBA game was lit!!
I liked Dungeon Dice monsters, and thought that it was a nice idea. I even used it to come up with an alternate game of my own that I called Dice Quest, which combined aspects of DDM with various parts of the real world card game and some ideas from the cartoon. I wish it had gotten more presence, because I think it would have made for some interesting shadow duels, but that is just me.
Sure, jordan simon, Dice Quest was played on a map, not just a grid, and just like Duelist Kingdom (Season 1), Monsters got a power bonus if they were in favorable terrain. Instead of the dungeon boss from DDM, players would select one monster as their avatar on the field. This was the first monster they had to summon before they could summon any other, and it usually gained a special power from being the avatar (kind of like the Deck Master system). My proudest innovation was the idea of how to handle uneven numbers of players. This combines multiple maps, usually. One player takes the role of a "ruler", and does not use an avatar. The other players play as normal, but they cannot change maps. The "ruler" can send monsters between maps. The "ruler" must destroy the avatars of the other players before they can reach his side of the maps. First player to reach the "ruler's" back row wins. I'm afraid I lost a lot of the details because the computer it was on crashed.
If you want to get back into yugioh, there are videos for that. "Summoning method" for dummies. The methods are Synchro, Xyz, Pendulum and the recent one Link Summoning.
1:31 - 1:36 "The ONLY attempt at a Spin-Off game", uh... I think you forgot about Capsule Monsters (or Capumon for short) it was featured in two episodes of Season 0, had a mini-series made exclusively by 4kids, and got 3 games based off it one on Game Boy Color, one on the Original Playstation, & the PS2 and the first two were Japanese exclusive, hell I even wanted to make a ton of the Season 0 figures for my 11th grade art class, put them and sell them in capsule machines (like in the show), and use the money to help the school, but unfortunately I didn't have the time or artistic ability to do so, BUT I CAN STILL DREAM DAMNNIT!
Animation of pushing cubes into perfect holes is a guilty pleasure of mine. Just imagine pushing one in yourself, with the most satisfying of frictions while the holograms display the cube folding out.
omg yes, this game was definately a guilty pleasure of mine. Nowadays I don't anymore, but up to my late high school years I picked that game up again every 2-3 years to play it for a bit.
I have a personal connection to Dungeon Dice Monsters, I've always loved dice (and have become something of a collector as of late) and I actually really liked Duke Devlin when I first saw the anime, so much so that I used to cosplay him at convention and it became my signature cosplay for a number of years and this started BEFORE LittleKuriboh reached that point in the abridged series. I had so much fun cosplaying as Duke and I think I felt at my most confident in my entire life when in that costume, sure DDM itself wasn't as good as it could have been but because of that I have so many great memories so I'm still really thankful for everything it brought to me. On another note you should absolutely look into the many Yu-Gi-Oh anime as there is quite a fascinating occurrence with how the series got noticeably worse with each new iteration where the dub was concerned but the original actually got better throughout GX and 5D's, ZeXal is a bit of an oddity but got much better the longer it went and Arc-V had colossal potential that was squandered towards the end. You're likely to get crucified by the fandom for saying this but I honestly think the first YGO series is by far the least interesting despite most people saying it's the only one worth watching.
Yeah, I agree that the newer series are good too. I’ve seen DM seasons 1,2 and 4 (I never had 3 or 5 back in the day), GX seasons 1-3, Zexal season 1 and most of 2, and all of Arc-V minus the last 10 or so episodes. Don’t ask me why the numbers are so random, because I don’t know, but I agree that the original isn’t flawless or automatically better than the others. I actually really enjoyed GX, and Arc-V was pretty good until it went off the rails. I think the original series would have been better if it didn’t introduce nearly 2 seasons of filler that never happened in the manga.
The ygo gameboard you showed is outdated and was actually quite easy to figure out. The new gameboard has an extra monster zone, the arrows are in the spell and trap zones, you can extra link your opponent out of using their extra deck. Shit's wild. It's why I quit the game :D
Interesting story, the first Yu-Gi-Oh! didnt focus on the cards, in fact it was called duel monsters and wasn't supper popular global in the series instead Yugi play a bunch and i mean a bunch of different games where the stakes were allot higher...
_"where the stakes were allot higher..."_ Way to be super vague lol. But for real anyone reading this who hasn't read the manga because they think its just the show in comic form GO READ IT NOOOOOW!!
For the sake of my high-school English teacher (who would literally give a student an F if they did this) it is two words "a lot" not "allot." A lot (ay lot) a large number of said item. allot (al-lot) not a word.
Saying it was a cash grab is pretty silly since the manga had tons of games similar to that one, not just duel monsters and dungeon dice monsters. It just so happens that those two are the only ones the anime bothered to adapt.
Yeah, DDM was just one of many games in the manga, it wasn't specifically introduced to capitalized on anything. Gaming in general was already a concept in the manga that the readers were used to and it wasn't strange for a new game to pop up after a card-heavy arc like Duelist Kingdom. Even the final arc brought back the tabletop RPG and a few other games on top of Duel Monsters. It'd be sweet if more "informative" Yuugiou videos on RUclips were made by people who are actually familiar with the source material. It annoys me when people call DDM a "spin-off" when it was from the original manga.
It be nice if youtube comments actually listend to the videos about yugioh instead if whining about it. Billiam mentions that the original manga didn't actually focus on just duel monsters and had a plethora of diffrent games. He calls the ANIME version DDM a cash grab because the entire duel monsters anime was a response to how fans actually took more intrest in the card game rather than the other games, so basically a cash grab.
I remember this mini series.I watched it back in 2005. I thought it was an epic final battle. There sure was a tough time for Yu-gi-oh in Sweden at first.
Me and some friends still get together to play DDM. Holidays are the best, drunken DDM and a houseful of comrades is one of the corniest but warmest memories I have.
To be fair, the character's never cheated... technically... remember, the game is from the show... it was modified for real life in the tcg... Also, it wasn't an attempted spin-off.. it was just a break from the Card Game... though, the people at corporate TRIED to turn it into a spin-off... but it itself wasn't one...
I saw them briefly in stores and had a set but since it like Duel Monsters didn't have the NATURAL INTENSITY THAT COMES WITH A CHILDREN'S GAME or the visuals like the show I never actually played it or any of the games. I just think dice are neat (^__^ ;)
i liked yugioh cards as a kid. however i quickly found out that the game changed too quickly for my junior high allowence to keep up with and i only made it through two or three different booster packs before i gave up. shame, bc yugioh was the more interesting card game over pokemon.
The reason the game changes so fast is because Konami is a greedy scummy company that likes to screw over the older players of the game. You can't even officially play the game anymore without Link Monsters.
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Billiam do next Yu-Gi-Oh! Video games next plz
I would love to hear your thoughts on *Buddyfight*
Billiam what about capsule monsters?
Nice video! Could you maybe put a link to the channel Nerdy Friends ? They have good deck profiles and I am sure they deserve a little shout out in the comments :)
So, the real reason Dungeon Dice Monsters exists is because the creator of YuGiOh, Kazuki Takahashi, originally grew up loving table top RPGs and since the manga was straying away from what he originally wanted it to be, he decided to add that into the manga inbetween the Battle City arc and the Duelist Kingdom arc just to take a break from the card game while he worked on fleshing out the rules.
Also, Pegasus straight up dies in the manga. And Joey never wore a dog costume in the manga. That was just some weird add-on to add filler to the show.
(Literally grew up with YuGiOh so I've learned too much about this stuff)
So how did they meet Duke in the manga?
Duke was sent by his father to kill Yugi for supposedly killing Pegasus. Also, it's Yugi playing instead of Atem. In the anime, the duel was split into the Dungeon Dice episodes and the Bandit Keith duel at the start of Battle City. There are a lot of the same themes, like the Millennium Puzzle being stolen and shattered after the duel.
Could you make an episode of "What Happened to" in the future regarding this?
Armyn13 actually in the manga duke was sent by his father to get revenge on yugi, for a game duke and yugi's grandfather played that horribly aged duke's father, with duke playing ddm vs yugi with the millennium puzzle at stake.
Okay, I got some stuff wrong. I read that part of the manga only once, I apologize.
"I'm surprised ddm is the only Yu-Gi-Oh spin off they tried to make"
*LAUGHS IN CAPSULE MONSTERS AND HERO CLIX*
lol Capsule Monsters was HORRIBLE! The figures were nothing short of awesome, but god the game was stupid. Not to mention it barely got distribution. Also, don't forget yugioh dice masters (which I collected the hell out of)
And Turbo duels and Speed Duels
Duelist of the roses was awesome
@@evilmidget Wait, there was another thing called Capsule Monsters? That was the name that Satoshi Tajiri wanted to give Pokémon but he couldn't for copyright reasons.
@@PuffyRainbowCloud yeah, Billiam did a video on it too.
While it had its quirks, I loved DDM. The Japanese version especially, since the dice were basically replicas of those used in the anime. The GBA version of the game also has an amazing soundtrack!
We should make dungeon dice monsters come back
I still play it on GBA every now and then.
Seriously loved the gba game as a kid.
Do a dungeon dice throwback review!
my hero
"Slavery isn't cool" says the ancient Egyptian ruler
THANK YOU! SOMEONE GETS IT!
Atem in the anime sure is a nice dude for a guy who probably had people executed if they disrespected him and took war prisoners as slaves lmao.
It would be cool to see a reimagining of Yu-Gi-Oh were Atem is an actually malevolent spirit that Yugi has to try to reason with for him not to do terrible things to people rather than a just a big boy, deep voiced version of himself.
Bullying is wrong. But destroying people’s minds is a-ok 👍🏻
@@elijahdavila3684 Well do I have the show for you
@@elijahdavila3684 Check out YuGiOh season 0, Toei did the animation and only about 4 episodes have card games as the main focus, other than that its a sadistic Yami, who loves playing games and mindfucking people
Technically they didn't *completely* forget about it. There was actually one line way later in the show where they're all sitting around doing nothing and Duke briefly suggests they play Dungeons Dice Monsters to pass the time. Just thought that was neat that they acknowledged it like that.
But they didn't play it because the game was bad? XD
Devlin also mentions it in his duel with Joey and Serenity against the robot guy.
I think it’s funny that later we see Duke working part time in the mall in the Yugioh movie 2017 as a server. Guess the game didn’t take off as much as he hoped.
"So, it's just like duel monsters..."
"No, it isn't!"
- Little Kuriboh
it uses dice.
Kirrim Kerman “I activate my trap card, Skull Dice! A card that very specifically requires a die to play it!”
"My game is nothing like duel monsters. Mine uses dice."
Nope, it’s still just like Duel Monsters.
@@kurtdelarosa6151 it seems you didn't get the joke
Actually, I got the joke. I just wanted to play along.
I play Skull Dice, a card that specifically uses dice xD
Oh God! Look at the time. I must be going now. (crying ludly while running)
Billiam, you have no idea how complicated Yugioh is now. There are link monsters as well.
Yeah Konami screwed over the game completely the moment they changed the board. I could accept Synchro Monsters & XYZ Monsters as you could still play without using them if you wanted. I refuse to accept Link Monsters are anything more than a spinoff game. Konami sucks & ruined Yugioh with their excessive greed. They could have easily made spinoff rulesets although were too lazy to make banlists for more than 1 game. DeckMaster Duels, Turbo Duels (Tabletop Form), & Link Duels all could have been successful spinoffs of the Main Game.
Konami's a really scummy company beyond Yugioh, that often screws over the properties it owns these days. DeckMaster Duels you would have a list of approved Deck Masters with effects you could use based on the Virtual World Saga of Season 3. Turbo Duels would utilize Speed Counters & could have been successful for the 5Ds Era. Link Duels as a spinoff could have prevented us from losing the true ruleset of Yugioh.
@@10tailedbijuu The game wouldn't have become stale without new gimmicks. The needless obsession with gimmicks ruined the cardgame to many fans. Keep in mind that GX didn't need to introduce a new gimmick. What Vrains did made the game completely unplayable.
The Card Game lasted for 8 full years on just the basic formula. There wasn't a need to add XYZ only 3 years after Synchros, it could have waited another 2. Arc V didn't really need to have a new gimmick in Pendulum Summons.
@@WaterKirby1994 I know this comment is pretty old but you should check out speed duels. It's a new format, and is very similar to old school yugioh.
WaterKirby1994 how about you play without links and add them in when you feel comfortable
I just like playing with the original rules. Even Gx had the same rules. All this new shit is so weird
It was briefly mentioned in the Waking the Dragons arc when Duke asked if anyone wanted to go back to his place and play but no one showed interest.
Poor guy lol
6:24 apparently Kuriboh can use Detonate even without the card.
7:04 lol that's the old Yugioh playmat. You share zones now, my friend.
thats what I though lol
*yugioh then* : I normal summon a monster and attack
*yugioh now* : FTK, OTK, EXTRA LINK, YOU LOST BEFORE WE EVER GOT TO THE SECOND TURN
Don't forget: BUT YOU STILL TAKE THE DAMAGE!
Don't forget the Kaiju's ;)
Aww, fuck the Kaijus. So annoying.
Blue-Eyes for life.
And hammer bans up the ass
Tbh people have been saying shit like that since GX but DM had the most random uninteractive broken shit
That weird moment when Yugi challenged a guy to a game of "stop the stopwatch before a giant pendulum rips your hand off"
Never figured why that game never took off IRL.
Me too. Wonder why the "choose a finger" death game didn't take off either.
Worth mentioning is that the japanese version was much better, each die had unique sides to it (as opposed to the stock dice that are provided in the us release), they folded like the dice in the show, each figure pack had its own unique die in it that folded out into the maze (so you weren't stuck with the few maze patterns provided in the us release) and figures seemed to look better. I imagine if the us release was like the jp release, it would have done at least slightly better because what we got was bare bones. The starter set in japan even had more monsters so you could have a more fleshed out battle.
There were quite a number of problems with those fold out dice.
1. They could NEVER stay flat, not unlike that horrid game mat the starter set came with.
2. They didn't always stay together when they were closed.
3. There was no way to associate a die with a monster, so you could just make a broken set of dice, but use whatever monsters you want.
4. The path shapes were very limited, especially in the starter set.
5. No unique colors, so there was no way to tell your opponent's paths from your own except for a little name tag on one of the squares.
@@evilmidget Dice folding apart is something that works much better in a video game where component quality isn't an issue.
The day after the Dungeon Dice episodes had aired in my country I went right down to my nearest bookstore in hopes that they had magically gotten this "new cool game" in stock over night. Hahahahah. They never did :P
When we look into the video game segment, Yu-Gi-Oh had three Tabletopgame Attempts. Dungeon Dice Monsters, Duelist of the Roses (where the Cards were moved on a board) and Capsule Monsters Coliseum (which had his own fillerarc in the series).
I think, all three were actually interesting concepts.
To this day Graceful Dice,Skull Dice, and Dungeon Dice Monsters honestly gave me this fascination for any game that uses dice. Dice are just pretty cool
JD 13 they're my favorite too
I traded a Magic Cylinder I pulled from my first Labyrinth of Nightmare pack for a Skull Dice because of that same fascination.
I've lived a life of regret.
Ever play warhammer?
I never really got into tabletop games, but after reading the original manga volumes 6 and 7 with that game with Bakura, I went out and bought my own 10-sides die because I thought it looked cool
Got the same thing but with coins *cough* Arcana Force *cough*
Everyone needs to read the manga especially pre-Duelist! I adored the show as a kid but when VIZ did Monthly Shonen Jump I lost my shit with Yugioh's early chapters and loved how even more ridiculously over the top it was. The art is so great too!
First arc is Atem making shadow games on steroids for any transgressions. Lied for TV ratings? BITCH, NOW YOU BLIND!
Remeber when Joey got kidnapped and the gang had to save him and Yamin yugi straight up electrocuted the thugs and killed them lol
@@hinata750 they didn’t die. They literally appeared in the yo-yo fight later
I'm sure I'm going to enjoy this video and everything but let's be fair, we're all waiting for that Digimon Data Squad video.
I think he's getting more viewers that aren't just here for the Digimon vids.
@@ianmclean2894 yeah that's true, I was just joking because of how there are always people asking about the digimon videos but I'm aware he does other great videos.
The Foul Fett digimon savers****
@@jacobhueser6412 I've always called it data squad cause that's how I originally watched it, and don't kill me, but I prefer the dub.
"Let me just run up and punch a fucking greymon" why I love data squad/savers
I love the fact you made this video. Literally loved this spin off
So it's just like Duel Monsters?
My game is nothing like duel monsters
My game uses dice
גיא קרוננפלד I activate Lucky dice! a card that, very specially, uses a dice to play!
@@alakazamlover4908
(Cries in backrond)
Also its skull dice
גיא קרוננפלד i was doing it on the moment! XD i dont know every card...
but thank you!
3:15 "the pharaoh was against slavery" would been a great quote
Aside from the Gameboy Advance game, I never saw Dungeon Dice Monsters in stores. Fortunately the GBA game was still pretty fun, and cheaper in the long run.
The game as a whole was pretty unbalanced. If most of your pool is low-level monsters you can clutter up the map and prevent your opponent from summoning
@@Cyber_Elf_ElpizoYeah, that was one of the stronger strategies. Heck, the anime episodes on the game itself featured that. I'm sure had the game continued on further they would have introduced things to help balance it more.
I remember watching the show and getting bored of the absurdity of how all the world's problems got resolved playing a card game but then I read the first copy of the manga and saw just how dark the story was originally intended to be. Yugi set a guy on fire, that was so metal. It was like if Jig Saw was an anti hero.
That playmat of the Field you’re using is outdated. You should find the one from Yu-Gi-Oh! Vrains. The Pendulum Zones are now a part of the far left and right Spell/Trap Zones. Also they added Extra Deck Monster Zones.
I hate the Vrains playmat setup and Link Monsters.
Teraunce Foaloke I like it more like how it is now. The mat is more... compact.
Watch them limit Reincarnation and hurt that gimmicky deck.
Only way I'd come back to YGO is if they complete erase Pendulums.
They still exist though? Pendulums is one of the dumbest mechanics ever introduced into a card game. Ruined the game for me. Sorry its a no from me, dawg.
I remember actually seeing this in shops except for capsule monsters which didn't appear at all, so i feel like this was almost a spiritual successor to it.
Oh ya, Duke is bringing sexy back
(YEAH!)
them other card games don't know how to act
(Yeah!)
GoombaGenocide YES
Just call Duke Devlin there's an app for that.
(YEAH)
Daddy Duke
7:03
>"What even is this?"
>Doesn't even show the current, even more convoluted format.
Hoo Billiam are you in for a shock when you hear the words "Link summon" and "Extra Monster Zone"
Konami really should have made the Link Duel Format a spinoff, although instead they chose to ruin the game for older players entirely. At least with the Pendulum Zones we could still summon our Fusions/Synchros/XYZ monsters normally, these days only those who watch VRAINS are allowed to officially play the game. Vrains was never even released in the United States other than in card form. We're reduced to smuggling the anime around subbed on the internet if we want to understand anything anymore.
I was about to say, that this video didn't aged that good.
Sincerely, someone who just came back from a 12 year hiatus.
@@WaterKirby1994 I won't recommend for you to talk for all old players. Some actually came back and even myself, which last summoning I got introduced to was synchro, still caught up with the game mechanics and stuff. While I agree, that things changed a lot (to be fair, I'm from a 12 year hiatus), I still do like and enjoy the game and am glad that I caught up on coming back.
@@asmylia9880 I'm never going to forgive Konami for what they did with Yugioh. There was no need to introduce new gimmicks every 3 years, it's too much change way too fast. The need for Link Monsters to even play the game now was infuriating. As well as the crap they did with the Stateside distribution of the anime, which for VRains never happened.
It takes far too long for me to learn things, so I was forced to retire from Yugioh forever. Supposedly there will be a new gimmick in another year while I'm still trying to understand the new rules. You're talking to someone who misses 1 per deck Monster Reborn.
Konami never thinks to try to go back to old overlooked Duel Styles like Tag Duels, Deck Master Duels, Labyrinth Duels, & Tabletop Riding Duels for the TCG. I would have preferred they did that rather than just keep changing up the main game. Remember Dungeon Dice Monsters? If Link Duels were established as a special format for the Yugioh card game rather than the main format I would probably still have interest in the card game.
@@WaterKirby1994 pfft you dont actually NEED link monsters to play. not too long ago a dude won an official tournament with a blue eyes deck. and even though i only play casually i still beat my friends more than i lose with a spell counter based deck... granted i use pendulum monsters, but ive only actually pendulum summoned twice ( the deck doesnt actually need to, its more about spell counter management)... that being said though i went up against a competitive level link deck and got wiped.. couldnt keep up with it. still though, it IS possible to win without it, but a lot more difficult.
Capsule Monsters?
Was either version of capsule monsters ever made into a real game?
Sket Tles yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh!_Capsule_Monsters_Collectible_Figure_Game
oh shit nice, remember seeing this in the manga and thought it was kinda cool.
I always thought Capsule Monsters was chess with Yugioh pieces...
Connor Wood I would really like to see this video too, I got interested in it and managed to grab a starter set off eBay one day, but had such trouble finding it I haven’t gone and opened it yet.
7:04 It's actually a little more complicated now because of the Special Summoning Zones, and a lot more complicated when you bring Link monsters into the mix.
7:03 Ha, if you think thats weird then you should see the updated play mat 😂
What the fuck is an Extra Monster Zone and why is Pedulum in the Spell/Trap Zone?
@@ShadowJay98 I think the pendulums make sense since they are kinda spells and giving them their own slots seemes like having extra spell/trap zones. But thats just my opinion.
ShadowJay98
They added Link monsters, a new type of extra deck monster that changed a lot about the way the game is played.
Now any monster that's summoned from the extra deck goes into the extra monster zone, making it so that you can only control one extra deck summoned monster at a time.
Unless of coarse you summon a Link Monster to the extra monster zone, in which case you can then summon extra deck monsters to any zone a link monster points to.
The way the pendulums zones are makes sense given that pendulum monsters are sort of half spell card and were a bit overpowering last gen so I can see this and extra monster zones being made as a way to nerf them......it just worked a bit to well.
ShadowJay98 I'll try to keep it as textbook basic as I possibly can.
Extra Monster Zone, any card that you summon from the Extra Deck, if it's Fusion, Synchro, XYZ, Face-Up Pendulum, or the new Link Monsters, must be summoned in one of these zones. Link Monsters can, lack of a better term, turn other Monster Zones into Extra Monster Zones so you can still summon from the ED multiple times a turn. If you summon from the grave or banish zone, this does not apply.
Master Rule 4, the Link Summoning update, made it to where the Pendulum Zones were shoved into the S/T Zone and occupy that space. You are still able to use normal Spells and Traps there, but you have to use those spots if you want to set your Pendulum Scale.
In short, Links, Extra Monster Zones and the change to Pendulum Zones were all to nerf Pendulums.
Brandon Green I got chewed out when I said the format especially after 5Ds was way too bullet proof for new comers. The Dragon Ball Super card game is a good example. Its attracting all kinds of attention (Release in Canada or make an online component damn you). You can explain all the game rules in the time it took you just to explain what zones are just now, but still has depth. I worry for the community. It seems to be shrinking steadily.
1:35
Ddm was not the only spin off that was made. There was capsule monster Coliseum like in the original manga series but that was only on console not in a physical toy & board game form
Ever watched Yu Gi Oh season 0?
Now there's where you see the "King of Games" show his stuff
Oh, you mean the game that's just like Duel Monsters? Only with dice...
“NO TRISTAN BECAUSE DUNGEON DICE MONSTERS USES D I C E”
Dude I grew up watching and loving the first generation of Yugioh, I had years without playing the card game (I was very good a it), and when I saw some 13yr old kids playing I went to go check it out... I was so lost didn't know what they were talking about.
Synchro, pendelum, xys
Same with pokemon, I remember that as a kid I played using my favorite pokemon, didn't care if they were weak or not, now in days kids that play pokemon use the strongest or the best ones to use to battle someone.
Times do change...
DDM and the Para and Dox labyrinth episodes were actually some of my favourite episodes because they were something different.
Dimension THE DICE!! 🎲🎲🎲
strike ninja attack..no my heart point...me lols
The ARC-V play mat wasn't that different from regular play mats, it just added in the Pendulum Zones, and compared to the old one I had, gave an actual spot for the side deck cards and the banish zone. Not sure if mine had Field or not but eh. Now VRAINS, on the other hand... woo boy...
"Dungeon Dice Monsters were too expensive and time consuming."
Looks at his 1000+ model collection of Space Orks, Imperial Guard, Tyranids, Genestealer Cult and Chaos/Nurgle Cultists that is literally thousands dollars of plastic cocaine and years of man-hour spent on painting.
Send help.
One of us! One of us! One of Us!
Yeah, feels like the real reason was that you needed a board/dungeon map. Table top Strategy games just need you to turn up with an army (plus dice and tape measure I guess) and you can play anywhere. The other problem I think was that the episode of the show came out about a year before the game itself was widely available.
They need to bring that game back. I loved it
I remember getting this as a kid, tried to play my younger brother who had no clue how to play and pretty much just ended up playing myself. The GBA game was lit!!
Duke Devlin *did* have a card that makes the game like DDM. He plays it in the first half of Season 3.
7:04 how i wish the field still look like this. the latest one is really "WTH is this"
thats wat im saying about the mat he showed. i gave up on the game after xyzs
i vaguely remember playing dice monsters. this video awoke memories i thought to be fever dreams.
Kirby Right Back At ya!
I can't hear Duke Devlin name without that weird music popping up in my head every single time.
Curse you littlekuriboh
I can see how the Dice Monster was a cool concept, but I feel it was way too early in the Yu-Gi-Oh franchise to start releasing spin-off.
Dont forget falsebound and duelist of the roses. THOSE WERE FUN
To think, the three parter that was dedicated to this game was the first season finale.
I liked Dungeon Dice monsters, and thought that it was a nice idea. I even used it to come up with an alternate game of my own that I called Dice Quest, which combined aspects of DDM with various parts of the real world card game and some ideas from the cartoon. I wish it had gotten more presence, because I think it would have made for some interesting shadow duels, but that is just me.
Got any more deets you could share on Dice quest?
Sure, jordan simon, Dice Quest was played on a map, not just a grid, and just like Duelist Kingdom (Season 1), Monsters got a power bonus if they were in favorable terrain. Instead of the dungeon boss from DDM, players would select one monster as their avatar on the field. This was the first monster they had to summon before they could summon any other, and it usually gained a special power from being the avatar (kind of like the Deck Master system). My proudest innovation was the idea of how to handle uneven numbers of players. This combines multiple maps, usually. One player takes the role of a "ruler", and does not use an avatar. The other players play as normal, but they cannot change maps. The "ruler" can send monsters between maps. The "ruler" must destroy the avatars of the other players before they can reach his side of the maps. First player to reach the "ruler's" back row wins. I'm afraid I lost a lot of the details because the computer it was on crashed.
If you want to get back into yugioh, there are videos for that.
"Summoning method" for dummies.
The methods are Synchro, Xyz, Pendulum and the recent one Link Summoning.
That's not the problem. The problem is that the current game is a complete different game. Reading new cardsl effects alone is a pain in the ass.
No thank you i'll stay with Battle City Rules pls.
Reminds me of those roleplaying games you can buy at Games Workshop.
I own and have played the Dungeon Dice Monsters game so so much
and idk I still got a BIG soft spot for it
+ dice... are cool.. you know....
"What even is this???"
6:21 Holy shit, is that a J... obbythehong reference?
CERTIFIED BIG BOY
You get props just for covering this. I had this as a kid and no one i knew had even heard of it
Duke Devlin was one of my favorite characters from Yugioh.
did you know his japanese name is otogi?
id be pretty happy if Dungeon Dice Monsters got another shot
1:31 - 1:36 "The ONLY attempt at a Spin-Off game", uh... I think you forgot about Capsule Monsters (or Capumon for short)
it was featured in two episodes of Season 0, had a mini-series made exclusively by 4kids, and got 3 games based off it one on Game Boy Color, one on the Original Playstation, & the PS2 and the first two were Japanese exclusive,
hell I even wanted to make a ton of the Season 0 figures for my 11th grade art class, put them and sell them in capsule machines (like in the show), and use the money to help the school, but unfortunately I didn't have the time or artistic ability to do so, BUT I CAN STILL DREAM DAMNNIT!
they also made a turn based rpg game for the game cube
Yeah, but that had nothing to do with Capsule Monsters
the Don of Creativity never said it did....
Also made physical figures and game still have some even now
Animation of pushing cubes into perfect holes is a guilty pleasure of mine. Just imagine pushing one in yourself, with the most satisfying of frictions while the holograms display the cube folding out.
I had the game on my gameboy advance. I loved it, i think the pacing was the downfall of the game. It was slow and could get boring.
I played it on emulator with speed function.
omg yes, this game was definately a guilty pleasure of mine. Nowadays I don't anymore, but up to my late high school years I picked that game up again every 2-3 years to play it for a bit.
>what even is this??
I felt that.
7:04 "What even is this???" when you realized that the board he use for complain is not even the Link format. Lmao
Good luck getting back into the game; been playing again for just over a year and still trying to get my head around some of the new rulings
I remember these episodes I actually really liked them
I thought this was going to be about the labyrinth duel yugi had. I guess that was something different lol
Hey sweet I was featured on the channel thanks bro I wish the game took off
And nerds assemble
I here
Nerds united
Nerds unite. Me timelord guy. Mr. Anti meta
Randomly stumbled into your channel. Just saw Medabots. We had the same childhood and i'm watching literally everything today.
I had a few of those figures (including Dark Magician, Blue Eyes, and Exodia).
They were cool.
Bryce Mckenzie I had relinquished and then fucking loved it
This reminded me that I had the Dungeon Dice Monsters starter box when I was a kid! I remember loving it, although not knowing how to play, of course.
I have a personal connection to Dungeon Dice Monsters, I've always loved dice (and have become something of a collector as of late) and I actually really liked Duke Devlin when I first saw the anime, so much so that I used to cosplay him at convention and it became my signature cosplay for a number of years and this started BEFORE LittleKuriboh reached that point in the abridged series. I had so much fun cosplaying as Duke and I think I felt at my most confident in my entire life when in that costume, sure DDM itself wasn't as good as it could have been but because of that I have so many great memories so I'm still really thankful for everything it brought to me.
On another note you should absolutely look into the many Yu-Gi-Oh anime as there is quite a fascinating occurrence with how the series got noticeably worse with each new iteration where the dub was concerned but the original actually got better throughout GX and 5D's, ZeXal is a bit of an oddity but got much better the longer it went and Arc-V had colossal potential that was squandered towards the end. You're likely to get crucified by the fandom for saying this but I honestly think the first YGO series is by far the least interesting despite most people saying it's the only one worth watching.
Yeah, I agree that the newer series are good too. I’ve seen DM seasons 1,2 and 4 (I never had 3 or 5 back in the day), GX seasons 1-3, Zexal season 1 and most of 2, and all of Arc-V minus the last 10 or so episodes. Don’t ask me why the numbers are so random, because I don’t know, but I agree that the original isn’t flawless or automatically better than the others. I actually really enjoyed GX, and Arc-V was pretty good until it went off the rails. I think the original series would have been better if it didn’t introduce nearly 2 seasons of filler that never happened in the manga.
I never played the tabletop version, but the Dungeon Dice Monsters GBA game was addicting to me as a child.
The ygo gameboard you showed is outdated and was actually quite easy to figure out. The new gameboard has an extra monster zone, the arrows are in the spell and trap zones, you can extra link your opponent out of using their extra deck. Shit's wild. It's why I quit the game :D
I got back into the game when they added all of that. I love it, a lot better than Dragon Ruler OTK bull-crap from back in the day.
Quinn
Hopefully they will change something in the future to make it like it used to be.
This is why I play with pendulum summoning and before that
i remember loving those episodes
Interesting story, the first Yu-Gi-Oh! didnt focus on the cards, in fact it was called duel monsters and wasn't supper popular global in the series instead Yugi play a bunch and i mean a bunch of different games where the stakes were allot higher...
Also there's a Season 0.
_"where the stakes were allot higher..."_
Way to be super vague lol. But for real anyone reading this who hasn't read the manga because they think its just the show in comic form GO READ IT NOOOOOW!!
For the sake of my high-school English teacher (who would literally give a student an F if they did this) it is two words "a lot" not "allot."
A lot (ay lot) a large number of said item.
allot (al-lot) not a word.
The stakes were actually much lower.
cant believe we are in a time where mid 00's media nostalgia is sucking me in. great vid, I feel old now
There's also Yu-Gi-Oh Capsule monsters
I know this is years late, but: I would love to see more Yu-Gi-Oh content! Haven't been into it since it first came out but it could be a lot of fun.
Saying it was a cash grab is pretty silly since the manga had tons of games similar to that one, not just duel monsters and dungeon dice monsters. It just so happens that those two are the only ones the anime bothered to adapt.
Yeah, DDM was just one of many games in the manga, it wasn't specifically introduced to capitalized on anything. Gaming in general was already a concept in the manga that the readers were used to and it wasn't strange for a new game to pop up after a card-heavy arc like Duelist Kingdom. Even the final arc brought back the tabletop RPG and a few other games on top of Duel Monsters.
It'd be sweet if more "informative" Yuugiou videos on RUclips were made by people who are actually familiar with the source material. It annoys me when people call DDM a "spin-off" when it was from the original manga.
Yeah, I feel that. Seems like people only ever talk about the series in reference to the awful 4kids dub.
It be nice if youtube comments actually listend to the videos about yugioh instead if whining about it. Billiam mentions that the original manga didn't actually focus on just duel monsters and had a plethora of diffrent games. He calls the ANIME version DDM a cash grab because the entire duel monsters anime was a response to how fans actually took more intrest in the card game rather than the other games, so basically a cash grab.
That dungeon dice monsters game music teleported me straight back to being 5 years old.
My god I'm so jealous of you. I wanna play dungeon dice monster's!!!!
I remember this mini series.I watched it back in 2005. I thought it was an epic final battle. There sure was a tough time for Yu-gi-oh in Sweden at first.
there was also capsule monsters
Fun review, I remember loving the concept of that game when I was young, even mroe for Capsule Monsters.
Anyone here from the Gameboy Game?
Hell yeah dude loved that game, i remember unlocking all the characters in free duel or whatever it was, i had like 5000 wins and 10ish lossed
same bro
Me and some friends still get together to play DDM. Holidays are the best, drunken DDM and a houseful of comrades is one of the corniest but warmest memories I have.
Because yu-gi-oh was totally normal!
Can this guy do any wrong? All his content is depth detailed and intricate pure amazing
To be fair, the character's never cheated... technically... remember, the game is from the show... it was modified for real life in the tcg...
Also, it wasn't an attempted spin-off.. it was just a break from the Card Game... though, the people at corporate TRIED to turn it into a spin-off... but it itself wasn't one...
Had dungeon dice monsters for game boy was sickkk
I don't blame you for believing Dungeon Dice Monsters was Yugioh only spin-off but there was one other an it's name is Capsule Monster
Sorry. The creator of everything wrong with yugioh did a review of thst.
And the Yugioh version of Heroclix.
Just imagine a spin-off series about dungeon dice
Are you talking into the side of a front-address microphone?
The table top game seems fun
Oh, but there ARE Yugioh spinoffs....like yugioh gx, 5ds, zexal, and so on. Oh, and capsule monsters.
I remember those episodes it was an intertesting attempt at a spinoff.
Wow, As Fan Of Yu-Gi-Oh, I Really Didn't Know This Existed.
Will Howell it looks so sick as well!!
@@filipeserrao eh, i guess so?
I only remember seeing those figure packs very rarely in like Walmart/target but then they disappeared. I never actually saw the game board before
Will Howell same
I saw them briefly in stores and had a set but since it like Duel Monsters didn't have the NATURAL INTENSITY THAT COMES WITH A CHILDREN'S GAME or the visuals like the show I never actually played it or any of the games. I just think dice are neat (^__^ ;)
Love when you throw that "wouldn't be popular in real life" out there
dungeon dice monsters was my first video lol
not as good as yours though 😭
i liked yugioh cards as a kid. however i quickly found out that the game changed too quickly for my junior high allowence to keep up with and i only made it through two or three different booster packs before i gave up. shame, bc yugioh was the more interesting card game over pokemon.
The reason the game changes so fast is because Konami is a greedy scummy company that likes to screw over the older players of the game. You can't even officially play the game anymore without Link Monsters.