23:20 always good to have a couple of packets of grass seed to repopulate the mess we make following ‘muddy trails’. Sow a pack and next time you visit it’ll have recovered a bit.
All I know, or should say 'read', was that they kept it open just in case the cold war broke out. But since then, it's been left to mother nature. We spoke about why it hasn't been turned into a museum of sorts, but like Vickie said, when would you stop throwing money at it as it does look a huge job to make the area safe for a starters by removing all fallen debris etc. Then there is the issue of the asbestos which is still around. But it would make for an interesting focal point for out of town sort of visitors.
Cheers for that. Its a stunning location to visit if you have never been before? We missed quite a bit out as we couldnt find a couple of other places I wanted to see, but we may go back in the future and do a follow-up.
Cracking video Chris, my grandma drove the wagons to and from the stores with the ammunition in during world war 2. If you go up to the side of Brown Wardle there are the old bomb shelters and firing ranges where you can still find bullets from world war 2. It’s about a mile away from these stores.
Cheers Judd, I'll have to look into this and see if I can find anything on those bunkers. Would make for a other video I think 👍 Also, with work, I haven't been able to get over to Horncliffe, it's not I don't want to get over there, just struggling with work on a Friday at the moment.
No problem Chris, yeah it would make another interesting video if you are wanting to see them I could show you I only live in Whitworth so just 2 minutes away. I will be at Horncliffe along time so no rush whenever you want👍.
I don’t know if you heard of Fauld in Staffordshire, a bomb store in a working mine exploded, in 1944, some people died and one farm disappeared into the crater killing the farmer and his wife, their children were safe at school. The craters is still there but over grown and fenced off now
Cheers Claret 👍 We think we may have spotted that off camera, and we have been back in touch with Matt (who I mention in the video) and now know where the bunkers are. Just gutted we didn't find them when doing the video as I think people would have been interested in seeing them.
34:24 kids ‘sniff’ it, gets you off your head. The big cans are lethal. You might see the small ones dumped near schools on back streets for the last few years?
Interesting walk through history , my grandma molly worked in a ammunition factory , as for all the cream gas cannisters unfortunately it a new drugs craze with the younger generation they inhale it to get high which is very dangerous but like thd generations that have gone before they don't listen ,
Hi Shelley, thanks for watching and getting in touch. From memory, I think Vickie's dad also worked in some form of ammunitions site over in Chorley, I'll have to ask her 🤔 Not a place for me though 😅 Those cannisters though, absolutely loads of them which we didn't film. All scattered along that stretch of land, but as you say, kids won't listen.
There was a huge royal ordnance place near Euxton Chorley. It's now either all a college or at least part of it. I remember going past it all the time in my Dad's wagon when he drove for Chorley bleaching and dying (cloth)
Great exploration video. I always understood the term 'pill boxes' referred to the hexagonal structural buildings scattered about the country, where you could view the enemy. I could be wrong. It's possible that the danger keep out signs might refer to the spoil heap being unstable.
I'm the same when it comes to pill boxes. I've always found them to be, as you say, hexagonal and we have one a matter of minutes walk away from where we live and over Holcombe. But I was reading notes from a website, I think it was something to do with the war effort, and they refer to the buildings we went in as pill boxes, which did confuse me to be honest. As for the danger signs in the forest, we were contacted by a ranger from Healey Dell the day after it premiered and he said they are there because that part of the land was and still is part of the old asbestos mill and parts of it still contain asbestos on the ground etc. Its weird though how the signs are way high up on the trees as, when in summer the trees are in full bloom, wouldn't it make them harder to spot?
Its a brilliant location mate. And we missed more as we couldnt find the bunkers (which we now know where they are after asking a friend). The bunkers I really wanted to get into so was gutted to not know where they were at the time.
When they have signs saying danger keep out etc ..they should always say why. Same with parents or anyone telling anyone not to do something or go somewhere etc ..explain why.
Absolutely fascinating I had no idea these places existed in our region but thanks to you & Vicky & you’re brilliant research these sites are being brought back to life ( albeit narratively) I think the canisters are being used by kids for silly recreational activities Well done 👍🏻
Its amazing what is out there on our doorsteps. We were talking about why these places dont seem to get looked after and givena new lease of life, but I guess it would cost a huge fortune to make the area safe. Also, the threat of asbestos might also be an issue I guess. Those cannisters where everywhere! We actually lost count whilst in the woodland.
6:40. That roof is moulded asbestos cement. It’s everywhere still. Edit, the fact it’s all over the floor is an indication to leave. Not a very dangerous product because the fibres are bound in a substrate but any broken bits have high potential for fibre release.
We were talking off camera and I said it looked like asbestos roofing and then we got speaking to the people we mentioned in the video that it was indeed asbestos. I think its not surprising since the old Turner mill was/is just around the corner. Such an interesting place to visit.
I went down to this spot about 2 years ago aroud the same time of year. Usually i love exploring old buildings but for some reason i didn't like it, didn't like the feeling.
you would believe is SHOULD not have anyone there ,and should be demolished ,why not give it a museum "Type" honour perhaps s o so quiet ,deliberately created that way prob"
23:20 always good to have a couple of packets of grass seed to repopulate the mess we make following ‘muddy trails’. Sow a pack and next time you visit it’ll have recovered a bit.
Brilliant idea x
Another interesting video Chris,so much history all around us! Cheers buddy.
It's all part of our history I wonder why it wasn't ever demolished after the war? thank you guys very interesting as usual 👏👏👏👏
All I know, or should say 'read', was that they kept it open just in case the cold war broke out. But since then, it's been left to mother nature. We spoke about why it hasn't been turned into a museum of sorts, but like Vickie said, when would you stop throwing money at it as it does look a huge job to make the area safe for a starters by removing all fallen debris etc. Then there is the issue of the asbestos which is still around. But it would make for an interesting focal point for out of town sort of visitors.
Another fascinating insight into local history.
Cheers for that. Its a stunning location to visit if you have never been before? We missed quite a bit out as we couldnt find a couple of other places I wanted to see, but we may go back in the future and do a follow-up.
And Hitler wanted Rochdale’s Town Hall..imagine his men had found these bombs too!
Very interesting spot.
Cracking video Chris, my grandma drove the wagons to and from the stores with the ammunition in during world war 2. If you go up to the side of Brown Wardle there are the old bomb shelters and firing ranges where you can still find bullets from world war 2. It’s about a mile away from these stores.
Cheers Judd, I'll have to look into this and see if I can find anything on those bunkers. Would make for a other video I think 👍 Also, with work, I haven't been able to get over to Horncliffe, it's not I don't want to get over there, just struggling with work on a Friday at the moment.
No problem Chris, yeah it would make another interesting video if you are wanting to see them I could show you I only live in Whitworth so just 2 minutes away. I will be at Horncliffe along time so no rush whenever you want👍.
Another Belter of a video Chris and Vicky...well done both 😊😊😊😊
Many thanks Johno 🙌😀
I don’t know if you heard of Fauld in Staffordshire, a bomb store in a working mine exploded, in 1944, some people died and one farm disappeared into the crater killing the farmer and his wife, their children were safe at school. The craters is still there but over grown and fenced off now
Nope, this one new to us, will look it up. Thanks Joan 😊
Oh how sad x
there is a pil box on market st across from the bus stop, its at the bottom of someone's garden and over looks the dell.
Cheers Claret 👍 We think we may have spotted that off camera, and we have been back in touch with Matt (who I mention in the video) and now know where the bunkers are. Just gutted we didn't find them when doing the video as I think people would have been interested in seeing them.
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34:24 kids ‘sniff’ it, gets you off your head. The big cans are lethal. You might see the small ones dumped near schools on back streets for the last few years?
Interesting walk through history , my grandma molly worked in a ammunition factory , as for all the cream gas cannisters unfortunately it a new drugs craze with the younger generation they inhale it to get high which is very dangerous but like thd generations that have gone before they don't listen ,
Hi Shelley, thanks for watching and getting in touch. From memory, I think Vickie's dad also worked in some form of ammunitions site over in Chorley, I'll have to ask her 🤔 Not a place for me though 😅 Those cannisters though, absolutely loads of them which we didn't film. All scattered along that stretch of land, but as you say, kids won't listen.
There was a huge royal ordnance place near Euxton Chorley. It's now either all a college or at least part of it. I remember going past it all the time in my Dad's wagon when he drove for Chorley bleaching and dying (cloth)
37:30 good chance of sinking mud. Possibly if a previous mill site the lodge has been infilled but is still swampy?
I really enjoyed watching your new video tonight I would love to visit that place one day lol x😊❤
Thanks Donna! The place we walked wasnt that big to be honest but well worth it nevertheless.
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Great exploration video. I always understood the term 'pill boxes' referred to the hexagonal structural buildings scattered about the country, where you could view the enemy. I could be wrong. It's possible that the danger keep out signs might refer to the spoil heap being unstable.
I'm the same when it comes to pill boxes. I've always found them to be, as you say, hexagonal and we have one a matter of minutes walk away from where we live and over Holcombe. But I was reading notes from a website, I think it was something to do with the war effort, and they refer to the buildings we went in as pill boxes, which did confuse me to be honest.
As for the danger signs in the forest, we were contacted by a ranger from Healey Dell the day after it premiered and he said they are there because that part of the land was and still is part of the old asbestos mill and parts of it still contain asbestos on the ground etc. Its weird though how the signs are way high up on the trees as, when in summer the trees are in full bloom, wouldn't it make them harder to spot?
@@DaysofHorror Very interesting about the asbestos. You would think it would be more secure to prevent access.
10:00 not 100% but it’s likely the building either had unlocated ordnance/powder or heavy AIB fireproofing.
Looks awesome this place so far mate definitely ammunition store's
Its a brilliant location mate. And we missed more as we couldnt find the bunkers (which we now know where they are after asking a friend). The bunkers I really wanted to get into so was gutted to not know where they were at the time.
When they have signs saying danger keep out etc ..they should always say why. Same with parents or anyone telling anyone not to do something or go somewhere etc ..explain why.
Absolutely fascinating I had no idea these places existed in our region but thanks to you & Vicky & you’re brilliant research these sites are being brought back to life ( albeit narratively)
I think the canisters are being used by kids for silly recreational activities
Well done 👍🏻
Its amazing what is out there on our doorsteps. We were talking about why these places dont seem to get looked after and givena new lease of life, but I guess it would cost a huge fortune to make the area safe. Also, the threat of asbestos might also be an issue I guess. Those cannisters where everywhere! We actually lost count whilst in the woodland.
6:40. That roof is moulded asbestos cement. It’s everywhere still.
Edit, the fact it’s all over the floor is an indication to leave. Not a very dangerous product because the fibres are bound in a substrate but any broken bits have high potential for fibre release.
We were talking off camera and I said it looked like asbestos roofing and then we got speaking to the people we mentioned in the video that it was indeed asbestos. I think its not surprising since the old Turner mill was/is just around the corner. Such an interesting place to visit.
@@DaysofHorror I’m glad it was rainy. Helps keep the fibres down.
I always thought for some reason asbestos was man made until I saw a video on RUclips about an old asbestos mine. That was fascinating watch.
I went down to this spot about 2 years ago aroud the same time of year. Usually i love exploring old buildings but for some reason i didn't like it, didn't like the feeling.
Understandable.
you would believe is SHOULD not have anyone there ,and should be demolished ,why not give it a museum "Type" honour perhaps s o so quiet ,deliberately created that way prob"
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