Hunting Horn Guide - Attacking & Positioning Part 1 (Battle Dance) - The Artful Maestro
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2020
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:24 - Efficient vs Inefficient Play
03:52 - Battle Dance Explained
04:42 - HH Strenghts & Weaknesses
05:36 - Optimizing around Strenghts & Weaknesses
08:06 - Flow of the Battle Dance
11:19 - Battle Dance Cycle
13:05 - Battle Dance in different situations
16:08 - Conclusion
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Greetings Hunters!
In Part 1 of this Artful Maestro video guide, we'll talk and learn about the highly efficient and highly effective Hunting Horn playstyle called the Battle Dance. Learn how a well-paced and well-flowing playstyle can be the difference between a good hunt and a great hunt. If ever you've wanted to up your game and be one step closer to becoming a great hunting horn player, this guide is mostly for you!
Special thanks to my good friends AmaDEUS_225 and Fyra for giving me valuable feedback and support during the making of this video!
I hope you enjoy this video guide and may it serve you well, Hunters!
Thank you very much for the continued support!
- Taxman
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Игры
Approved.
Dream come true, damn!
Masters!!! 😍
Now i have to watch it
A thousand thanks for your awesome videos and now approved by a HH master (thanks for the master class btw)
Griffted I CANT AIM OP, I CANT TIME IT CORRECTLY
This is such an important, CORE component of improving at Monster Hunter. While it does apply to the other weapons, HH only has dodging and positioning to deal with the monsters' assault. This is even more prominent for the Horn. You were able to put it into words, and also explain some of the abstract concepts, which can be difficult to comprehend. Thank you kindly, Taxman.
Here's to our future Icebergs, my friend! Thank you for the kind words!
I’m trying hard and I keep getting hit.
@@nn4mz its hard just keep trying and you will learn the monster paterns and then its ez mode
@@PrimeRicci - Thanks. I’ll keep trying.
step 1 : doge
step 2 : boop da snoot
step 3: doot dat doot
Distinctly remember reading a tip in some forum back when I was still learning to always treat this game like it's turn based combat and it has served me well. Although, my inner unga-bunga blood lust still makes me completely drop my composure from time to time. Thanks for the vid, looking forward to part 2.
Its the mix of both that makes the hunts more enjoyable 😁
Yea i definitely dont do the turn based gameplay.....i lovee my longsword because it's always my turn
That's exactly what Rocksteady is for. And I instantly go into that mode as soon as it's equipped!
This isn't just applicable to HH, but to other melee weapons as well. Read and react accordingly to deal consistent damage without overcomitting is basically what it mostly comes down to. Weapons with shield and counters have different ways to react on these situations but weapons that rely mostly on the basic dodge like IG, HH, SwAxe, SnS(cant backhop all the time), etc., this vid will also benefit them. Great video and keep up the good work. Salamat!
Very true! There are minor differences in some of the steps but overall, the flow and the application of the cycles remain the same.
I used these tips and it helped me drastically improve my longsword gameplay.... the battle dance is a good phrase for what it feels like to fluidly move around a monster while dealing consistent damage.... no joke great video
00:24 - Efficient vs Inefficient Play
03:52 - Battle Dance Explained
04:42 - HH Strenghts & Weaknesses
05:36 - Optimizing around Strenghts & Weaknesses
08:06 - Flow of the Battle Dance
11:19 - Battle Dance Cycle
13:05 - Battle Dance in different situations
16:08 - Conclusion
This is perhaps the most detailed, thorough mentoring video I've seen for any weapon. Absolutely fantastic and it shows that much effort went into making and describing it. Keep up the excellent work.
3 years later I’m seeing this and it’s blowing my mind. The explanation of monster tells and how to ID them is soooo helpful. Amazing content
It's a shame this guy has only 13k subscribers.
This is a high quality content and we can see how much effort they put into.
Thank you very much!
we all gotta start from somewhere :)
Great video. The “cycle of the battle dance” is a very useful conceptual tool that explains, say, why it is sometimes difficult to learn new weapons. Shield weapons have a more complex process of reacting to the incoming attack, as the player has to decide whether to evade or deliberately stand the ground and block, and whether to counterattack after the block, block again, or reposition. Very fast weapons, like dual blades, can also be difficult to get used to coming from a slower weapon, and vice versa, because the combo delay (the time after an attack during which the hunter can input the next attack in chain or evade out) is significantly different. And as you have emphasized with the concept of consistent, as opposed to continuous, offensive, a good choreography of the back and forth interaction between the hunter and the monster has an important but less obvious component that is a deliberate pause in between the attacks.
Despite being dedicated to HH, this video also serves as a good general purpose guide for melee hunting basics. The idea of pacing yourself to only attack when punishing a monster's openings rather than constantly doing hits and just healing off the damage is something every melee weapon can use.
@@sjames551 Dance concept is generic. It can be adopted to any melee weapon. I will try to think in dance manner tonight. I really need such tutorials to step on next level in my hunts.
@@dzakub85 well tbh, this concept itself is far more easier to adopt to a weapon you main, since my way on approaching thing is treating the fight like it's a turn based rpg game.
I love this so much it hurts you're literally the reason my 40 minute hunts with monsters like barioth and velkana became 20 minute hunts. I can't thank you enough!
I love the HH, Griffted changed how I play with his master class from supportive to offensive. I came across you with the dodging , which I still need to work on , but you did I great job explaining I frames , I wasn’t aware of them. This video, just brings everything to the next level. Great job!!! You guys are inspiring and encouraging HH users. Thank You for sharing your experience and knowledge.
The way you teach it is really amazing, this is not just great for HH, this should be applied no matter the weapon used :o
I've been working on that mindset while trying to master the Ruiner Nergigante fight in solo for the current event.
I'm playing Gunlance with some window evasion, and when you can go through the cycle you explained this frustrating fight becomes way more managable, even if I'm still not good enough to do it without Palico :p
Can't wait for part 2!
A very useful guide. You explained very well and in a simple way very complex concepts. Can't wait to see the part 2.
So I've been watching this video and Griffted's videos on the HH and I'm finally taking the time to learn it, because I really want to be a good pocket healer/support for my friends and other randos I might ever play with again. So I've been working on using it in a few low rank hunts to also complete my optional quests and man, the thing just clicked all of a sudden. It's so much fun, I can't believe I've waited this long to finally try it.
This video is so good that even though I didn't want to use the hunting horn, it helped me a lot to improve other aspects of my current weapons that I use.
And better yet, it has completely convinced me to start using the hunting horn much more often and also in a much more efficient way!
Thank you so much for this guide!
I'm now a master of Hunting Horn, good memories of when I was starting with the weapon
Totally agree with the point made at 10:31. You can't do damage if you keep getting hit and have to heal, because you tried to attack as much as possible instead of attacking more consistently. It's one of the reasons why I don't use, and will always discourage the use of damage meter mods for players who aren't experienced enough yet.
We as humans are naturally competitive by virtue of nature's rule: survival of the fittest. When you can constantly see the damage bar/numbers of others in your quest and they outperform you, you instinctively want to catch up as fast as possible. This will, in most cases, lead to taking more risks just so you can get more hits in to close the gap, and the "battle dance" will be subconsciously discarded in favour of the brute force style. You'll start to chase numbers instead of learning to play the game better.
I'd also like to point out that some mantles in the game (especially Rocksteady) just outright encourage players to brute force instead of learning to play better. Why dodge/position properly when you can just facetank attacks (and hopefully heal the damage back with health regen)? Most people don't care until they take too much damage and have to pot, but then revert to the same mentality once they reach acceptable hp.
Some of you might get defensive reading this, but ask yourself this: Do you really enjoy brute forcing the game and then carting and failing the quest more often than others, or would you rather learn the game better and play more effectively? Keep in mind that I'm directing this question to the less experienced hunters out there, since I've seen this happen not just in SOS, but in some MHW groups as well.
I'll preface my answer with this: I almost always take both Rocksteady and Temporal, use mainly the Blackveil Hazak set for most quests, and always take Vitality 3 and Stun Resist 3. Seeing , I would say I technically brute force my way sometimes with my Hunting Horn and Insect Glaive, but I don't get carted nearly as much, if at all. I actually despise getting carted at any point, even if I know the hunt will be hard. I still do try to understand positioning and dodge well, since I can only take so many health items even with speed eating and passive health recovery and getting knocked around like a ball at elementary school recess is hardly what I consider "fun". MHW is my very first Monster Hunter experience and I do enjoy learning the monster's patterns, attacks, hitboxes, etc. It's really rewarding to finish a hunt knowing that I didn't die and that my performance was pretty good. Yes, Rocksteady and Temporal breed bad habits but getting instagibbed while in Rocksteady due to attacks hitting multiple times and my songs being interrupted because of Temporal auto-dodge, that teaches you that you can't just go brain-dead and mash the attack button. I understand the importance of proper analysis. I sometimes feel bad when I'm not nearly as helpful in certain multiplayer hunts but that's short-lived and I prefer to stay alive and wait/heal rather than go in and get myself killed. I'm probably not the target for your discussion but I just felt I need to say something, since I take a lot of defensive skills that perhaps promote brain-dead play?
@@Shadowtheoriginalone The main point in my OP was that players tend to focus on the wrong stuff when they want to increase their damage output, which was emphasised by the video's point of doing damage consistently instead of attacking as much as possible. They sometimes try to copy speedrun builds then end up carting a lot since as said, they haven't learned the fight/game well enough to be able to use it effectively.
As for you using lots of defensive skills, it seems that your objective isn't to increase damage output but to stay alive. In that case, I don't think there's anything wrong since using defensive skills does support your aim to stay alive. Not carting is one of the better things you can do in multiplayer anyway, since if a quest fails you don't get rewards at all (yeah I don't count partbreaks).
So in the end, as long as your focus is on the right things to reach your goal, I don't really care if you "brain-dead" play the game. What matters then is if you have fun or not.
@@hal0ist Ah, I see. That's fair enough. Once one understands the game well enough, one can forego defenses in favor of more damage in builds. And when you forego defenses, you also have to keep in mind what you can and can't do, as this video shows, and the important of consistency instead of quantity, as you have said before.
Ha ha hunting horn go brrr
It’s hard. Disengaging and attacking us a struggle. I die for not attacking, or I die for attacking.
Couldn't agree more. Positioning and patience are key. That's why i never use any mantle, palico neither. It just feels great to completely wreck a monster 1 on 1, not because of brute forcing it with temporal, rocksteady, trap spam and constantly wall slamming, but rather knowing it's attacks, how to avoid/counter them and when to attack with the appropriate moves. That is why i love Monster Hunter. Compared to some other games, it doesn't become more boring the longer you've played it, but more fun instead since you get better too, not just your gear. 1800+ hours in World/Iceborne and still going, over 7000hours in MH total.
It feels amazing to annihilate tempered elders in a few minutes, while only getting hit 2 or 3 times in the entire fight.
I hope more players would try to learn this "battle dance", sadly i've seen players running straight into the monster's attacks instead of reacting accordingly. Positioning etc. is important for every weapon.
Why do i always write these walls of text when talking about Monster Hunter. :/
Because, like me, you are also passionate about the game and the many different ways to play it. Thank you for sharing the same sentiment that I have, it makes me happy knowing that there are many of us out there who value skill over anything else as well.
-Taxman
@@MonsterHunterWorldPHElites Thanks for your kind reply too. ;) 👍
This is the best HH tutorial I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen nearly all of them. Thank you for putting out this content and keep up the great work!
Preach that sweet Hunting Horn gospel, brother!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽
such a great video! definitely the one i was looking for all this time, cant wait for part two, keep up the good work! :D
It's great that despite HH being such an underrated weapon there are still great and dedicated content makers who go out of their way to create such great in-depth guides! The info and editing are very impressively put together. Thanks for the tips!
This should be a mandatory video for all hunters. Such a great video.
Thank you for this, it made my day. Can't wait for part 2!
I've been looking for a video like this. Really a great help. Looking forward to part 2~
Awesome, just what i needed to improve my Hunting Horn gameplay!
This is amazing-thanks so much for this channel’s content. Upped my gameplay immensely; can’t wait for part 2!
thank you for your great work, will take these lessons to heart with HH.
Awesome info video. This Will put me on the the path of epicness. I thank thee
*_You my guy, are the pinnacle of analysis._*
i love this. it's very interesting to me. after playing the game for a long time, many of these things kind of just start to come naturally to you, without thinking. but i really enjoying seeing this all explained and with great detail. great work, really excited for part 2.
This is fantastic stuff. It's definitely already part of how I play, as you suggest, but codifying it and breaking it down into countable steps like this is really smart. Also watching y'all bonk those monsters is making me really want to pick that HH back up. Looking forward to the rest of the series!
Great video and explanation, as always!
Thank you for the awesome video(s) that you post! Your explanations are deliberate and polished. I see now that I've been overcommitting with the HH. Please keep up the good work!
This is the series I have been wishing for a long long time.
This is so useful and well explained that just the battle dance explinations can help any Hunter with any weapon. Great job Taxman!
Your videos in general (and this one in particular) have really influenced the way I think about hunts, and have made me a better hunter overall. Thank you so much!
while learning and getting better while trying to become a HH main this video list is absolutely perfect. i never thought of what i did was more of a dance, but just the comparison alone in the start you woke me up to the mistakes i was making on the average. the battle dance left me in awe and gave me a new understanding and love for HH. thank you so much for the new info and tips to become a better HH user. you have definitely earned a sub.
Just want to say thanks again for putting this out. Over the past few days I've been putting these principals to use and my play has dramatically improved! Been practicing on the "Where the Swift Meets the Roar" event quest and have and really enjoying HH again :)
This video made the hunting horn a lot easier to understand and use thanks
Listening to you voice and choice of music was cathartic man thank you! Great guide! Getting hype'd to start a world HH only run and this has been helpful
Best monster hunter tutorial video I’ve ever watched. I’d like to see more videos please!
This is just marvelous!! I'm on my long way to learn the dance properly and this is just... I'm speechless 👏❤️. Looking forward for pt.2!
Great quality. Clear and clean. The HH community isn't big but the amount of quality content produced is remarkable.
Great job in pinpointing the subtle aspects of the fight. Your guide is very clear and I already started fixing my bad form in battle thanks to your video making me understand where I was overcommiting and making me consider walking away instead of perma rolling. Thank you.
This video is so good that if you are new in the game you can literally use this for all weapons.
This is basically the core of the game and i never seen any video from any other youtuber that make it so well explained and also so clear and easy to understand.
You're indeed the most underrated mh yt channel around. :c
As a new Hunter this was beautiful, really well done and helpful, Thanks guys ~
Ph here, you guys are killing it. best produced videos I’ve seen.
I'm glad this guide isn't that old. I would have slapped myself with a hh for missing out. After 2k hours in mhw I'm still pleasantly surprised that I have more to learn. Excellent guide/video.
Taxman, this video is so good! One of my hunting buddies is interested in HH and I wrote out a HUGE wall of text explaining how I play HH and then I realized I was basically just writing out the content of this video. 😅
I really appreciate both the quality content and the editing/presentation. You make one of the fundamental concepts of MH easy to understand and implement.
Thank you for making this video, eagerly awaiting part 2!
I literally enjoyed watching this video because its VERY DECENT
Truth be told, this can be good advice for many weapon types. I'm taking notes.
Holy crap!! The basic and fundamental knowledge you give in the video is amazing!! This stuff applies to all weapons. I tend to over commit with switch axe but after seeing this it let me realize the things I was doing wrong. Great video!!
Loving this! Can't wait for part 2!
Superb content, as always
Beautifully made. ♥
Perfect timing seeing this video. I fell inlove with HH. Love the guide bro
This is the ultimate guide not just for HH but ALL other weapon classes
Brilliant video bro, this simply summarizes the somewhat complex flow that I myself have trouble describing. I will definitely be sharing this with my friends who are interested in improving with HH. Looking forward to more great content
Thank you! And also thank you for letting me steal a portion of your Rathalos TA run. 😂
Thank you so much for the guide, hammer here to pick up a new weapon!
Love it. A big part of what I realize helps me improve is putting names to things. Like you said in the video, you already DO all the steps to the battle dance to some degree or another, but by helping me identify them as such, it should help me find a rhythm more consistently! Thank you!
Edit: Also, just walking casually out of an attack looks and feels *good*!
Earned a like and a sub for a godly video and not asking for them.
Watched itntill the very end.
Now for round 2.
Amazing!! I love your videos. Is great that this video tutorial works for the other weapons as well
This tutorial was awesome. I'm coming from Glaive and Bow and I'm having a really hard time with the HH. It's much slower than what I'm used to. But I want support my teammates and still deal damage.
Great tutorial. I'll wait for the next one
This video is extremely informative and useful! Thank you!
Amazing work! That's some quality content and very helpful
I actually picked a lot of this up from watching you play in other videos, seeing it in a more educational format helps to solidify that so thank you. You are the reason I now consider hunting horn one of my strongest weapons! I still do not fully understand how to dance with other weapons (except lance, because the roll or strafe to react is simply replaced with a timed block). I am currently learning how to properly guard point and react with charge blade, the slow axe attacks have some similarity to horn moves as well. It's fun to learn how to play the game properly!
That one part you mentioned, really can apply to many, many weapon types. Actually, to every single one. You can have as much damage as possible, but if you cannot hit the monster consistently, it won't help.
I got interested in the hunting horn and I love the effort you put into this video. I tip my hat to you! Now, time to go to part two!
Honestly this is just a great way to explain Monster Hunter combat in general, I always described it as an arena fighter against AI but your step by step explanation is so much better!
Love the video!!!!! Really help me learn my newly found favourite weapon After Insect glaive.... Hunting horn!!!!!😎
im starting to use the HH and this is very usefull, thankyou for the video
Absolutely awesome
Great information and very well put together 👍
Absolute masterpiece of a guide . First time i see you , i like and sub and will be watching more and more :D Keep up the good work !!!!
What a master class good job
I've always been trying to punish with both hits of the superpound on the head. Most of the ones you've done first hit a limb then the head. Perfect positioning! I've missed out on so many SPs without using that tactic.
That's great content, I love it. It hurts not to see thousands of likes and subs, I'm sharing it.
Amazing :3 Dance with Peace and Tranquility.
This is very very good.
I can see his point in every part and i agree on what he means by whatever he says like "attack consistently for max damage" hes just wise ngl
Fantastic guide
Very well visualized
This man has single-handedly turned me into a horn-main after over 500 hours of using literally anything else. Good job!
This is the best video to explain how to play this game.
This is really good to explain and show the exsample to the new players in mhwi how to encounter every monster not even HH but every weapons.
Really good job.
Can't wait for part 2.
I used to play hammer and this guide for hh should be learnt for all hammer player especially the dancing ! I'm now training HH and it feel really similar on some points ! Ie positioning, timing, evading. Just waiting for part 2, with all your advice of attacking mooves/cancel
You've done an already damn god job thx for all tips dude much love from France ❤️❤️
I would love a video with all the attacks/patterns of a monster broke down, and suggestions on how to counter them. We somehow have thousands of speedruns videos, but it is hard to get a full picture of monsters' pattern when we are in a battle. This video gives me a taste but I need more ^^ I need to find more relax YT hunts I guess to take notes of the monsters' patterns
Man, I gotta get back into dootstick. Can't wait to see part 2!
I just interpret it as if the HH is one infinite combo consisting with many 1 hit combos. It's so cool that almost any move is viable as long as you react accordingly. Not only do you have to learn the space positioning but also the time positioning. It's a space-time weapon.
I suck at positioning. I’m trying hard. Any tips?
You know HH players are not a big group of ppl. A huge thank you to make this amazing guide for the HH player. Have to say this video has the most important concepts of battle dance for HH player or other hunters.
I'm not watching this but just dropping by to agree that using the horn is indeed a dance. Positioning is everything and knowing where your dance partner is and going is important. Keep dooting everyone!
Nice Video, i already told my Friends you must feel the Hunting Horn its like your Battle Dance.
This applies to many other weapons even to other games. This is like gaming 101 omfg so good
Know this is pretty late but this guide helped me a ton! Thanks a lot
I love your dodge videos i want more about that, your work is awesome i'm learning to dodge all monster for your videos. Thank you bro
This the reason i want to play hunting horn
Its beautiful
Super proud for Pinoy HH Hunters! Haha keep it up guys! Just subscribed.
The content that i need! great work! keep it up
AMAZING!
thank you for the video this out and this will really help me improve =D
I watched am amadeus fight against normal brachy and it was the most amazing thing I've seen. He literally danced around and played his music. It inspired me to pick up the horn and i love it so much
AmaDEUS 225 is a true matchup trendsetter, that guy is just phenomenal!
@@MonsterHunterWorldPHElites he has some of the most beautiful runs. He made change my thoughts from HH being a hammer to being a dance. He really embodies the dance side of HH. It's like watching a Chinese martial artist in a theater.
10/10 perfect guide