🐊🌍 SHOCKING BOAT RAMP FAIL - WENT BAD FAST! 🌍🐊
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- 🐊🌍 SHOCKING BOAT RAMP FAIL - WENT BAD FAST! 🌍🐊
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🚤💥 TOTAL BOAT RAMP DISASTER - TRAILER SINKS STRAIGHT TO THE BOTTOM! 💥🚤
I was about to launch my boat when I heard someone shouting down at the ramp:
🔥 "You’re reversing too far! Stop! Stop! You’ve gone off the ramp!"
At that moment, I knew something mad was about to happen, so I hit record.
The guy tried 4-5 times to pull the trailer back up, but it wasn’t budging.
So what did he do? He went all in-reversed even further and floored it! 😳💀
💥 BOOM! The tow hitch SNAPPED, and the trailer went straight to the bottom of the river.
Then came 4+ HOURS of madness trying to recover the trailer so boats could launch again!
🚨 Even worse, I was told someone had DROWNED there not long ago. Boat ramps can be seriously dangerous!
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👍💯 to the gentleman that helped him out thank you. I’m from Michigan. Most people would stand around and laughed at him
Thanks we appreciate you
Great job!
Helped him out? They should have done that in the first place and not wait until he broke shit.
@ we tried. He got frustrated an did it his way then we did it our way. It was his truck trailer boat so couldn’t argue with him
All you had to do was lift up the back of the trailer using the other boat with an anchor rope or something
Yea but he got impatient
Yeah but he snatch like hell so he got his result
@ he sure did. When he backed the extra mile. Something was coming are staying. Hahahahaha
I love to see people help each other out 🙏
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I helped a guy in a similar situation and when we're done he asked me what he owed me for helping.......I said a good fishing hole 😮 now I was never a crappie fisherman, but after a day catching slabs with him, I've been hooked 😂
You got that right. I should’ve said that but I was just glad I could help him. No doubt he appreciated it
Sounds like you both made out!
@ we made it happen. Made some memories for sure.
@@kenbrown5449 we still go fishing together years later
@gatorsoutdooradventures I did,but he insisted so I joking said that and years later we still go fishing.
Ya'll pay $10 to launch here!!! Props to gator outdoors for staying and assisting. When he floored it and the trailer popped off, did it just slip up off the ball.....whoever owns this ramp needs to invest some money and correct and redo those ramps....
He popped the ball off the hitch. Slam off
High lift jacks and get wet lol
Not my problem
@ you right
Shit ramp
Years ago, I was at a ramp in Tavernier, Fl. someone was pulling a sunken boat with a tow truck, the cable ripped off the boat and hid a man in his head. I was next to him, he was dead before he hit the ground. So be very careful. I was 14 yr old.
O no. Dang that’s horrible
What year did this happen? I call BS. Why would you make up a stupid story that is a lie?
@ lol it happen last week. So that’s what. Year 2025.
@@gatorsoutdooradventures he said it happened years ago, or are you talking about a new instance?
@ aww yea that accident he was talking about. I figured it out after I replied last week about this video. I was gonna say this video here is fresh as they get. We appreciate you
Nice work from Michigan!! Nice to see some good Ol boys helping each other out!
Appreciate you. That’s right. That’s what we do. I’ve been there done that myself
Best comment by you was, "that's one way to do it."
He that was one way to do it. Hahahahaha not the way I’d done it
Wow they was in a bad situation!! Nothing but Respect for you Helping them it's hard these days to get ppl to listen or to help someone I know I've had my share of helping ppl in those situations and other hunting situations.. Again you did what ppl are supposed to do help your fellow ppl if needed and your able too i just hope we aren't the last of a dying breed with respect and just helping and teaching.. Ppl don't understand until its done Their is nothing stronger than a heart of a volunteer helping.. Great video brother keep Rockin ✌️👊😎
Yeah I agree. I’m glad we were there to help them out and hopefully it will inspire others to do the same. Thanks We appreciate you all.
@gatorsoutdooradventures Most Definitely brother and I'm hoping that it will.. I know they seemed very greatful you took time to help them they definitely was in a bad situation.. Keep Rockin brother Good luck fishing 🎣 ✌️👊😎
@ Thanks
I believe that is the boat ramp at Highlands Park . I have used it several times and it needs some work done on it. Luckily you didn’t have any wind to deal with that would have made things worse.
@ yea I done the same thing a week before so I knew after he started hollering what we were up against. All you can do is laugh about it an get to grinding an go fishing. But yes. They could spend just a little bit of money an fix that ramp for sure. It’s a nice place there except for that ramp an all them wash outs are ditches moreless. Hahaha. I love the people there really nice folks and the locals coming in an out are nice. That cleaning shed they got is really nice as well.
10.00 ramp fee for this.
$50 is too cheap
50 bucks dang
You the man Brandon! Glad yall got it out
Yea I’m glad we were able to get her out of there.
If ya want some good, hearty laughs, don't go to a comedy club, just go to your local boat ramp...! You'll be all laughed out after that...!!! At least here in Sarasota, Florida, there are moments of comedic excellence...!!!
Any boat ramp you can make movies daily. I’ve been your way. I’ve seen some better than this there.
@gatorsoutdooradventures No doubt...
@ appreciate you Thanks for commenting an watching.
@gatorsoutdooradventures Also, subscribed... Keep up your awesomeness...!
@ Thanks very much.
I see where all your recreational fishing licenses monies go, not to make a good boat ramp right ! Do a record request find out who is responsible for keeping that boat ramp up
It sure could use some up keep no doubt. Just a little money put in on that boat ramp an it could be a dynamite hole to put In at. Great location for the best of both worlds. River are lake fishing.
@@huckfin1100 It actually looks more like a low water problem than anything else. Not much that can be done about that.
its more than a low water. water dont get that high an if it does you don't want to go fishing anyway
I bet someone is going to buy some good rope now. I know of at least 4 boat ramps that are terrible in S E. Alabama and N.W. Florida. Some have no docks at all, making it dangerous getting in boat. One in particular is very rural and not paved like yours, soil erosion and big pot holes below water line. We fishermen don't get the help and respect equal to our dues like the other post says!
@ yes I will have some new rope this week no doubt. Hey I’ve been there when they’ve went on by would t look your way. I just can’t do that. I had to help them ole timers out because just the week before I done the same thing an I didn’t have any help.
Amazing no one was willing to get wet and just go in & lift the trailer/wheels over the obstacle.
He didn’t give us a time. I offered but he was like hold my beer I got this. Lol
I wouldn’t want to go out in that nasty looking water
@ it nasty looking water but get in that river an them fish are so pretty and actually good table fare. The shallow lakes. Stir that mud up. It smells like gas
I’ve seen this several times at different ramps.
Slip a 4’ long piece of 2x6 in front of each trailer wheel, and you’re out in 90 seconds, with zero damage.
The marina where I worked kept them in every truck.
That’s a good idea right there. We appreciate you
"Well, that's one way to do it!" Classic!🤣👍
That’s all I had for that second Hahahaha. Appreciate you watching. Thanks
On a lake that was undergoing a drawdown several trailers drove off the end of the ramp trying to load or unload boats. One drove off the end and the trailer frame was directly on the concrete ramp with the tires handing over the deeper water at the end of the concrete. The owner several times backed up to get a running start and tried to jerk the trailer over the concrete edge with the truck in 4WD. After several more tries he got the trailer out but left the axle and tires in the water. They dragged the trailer and then the axle with the wheels attached up to the dirt parking lot. There they flipped over the trailer frame and the next day they hired a welder with a portable rig to come and weld the axle back on. You cannot fix stupid but was sure fun to watch.
It’s always fun to watch. As long as it’s not me being the one every body is watching hahaha
Am I the only one yelling at my phone screen to utilize the trailer winch and strap to pull with?
We had to let him do it his way first then we got to chip in. Hahahaha
Ty for being a kind person and helping that guy
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Awesome sharing brother 👏
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I've had this happen to me years ago. The trailer wheels dropped off the end of the ramp because barge traffic had washed out all the fill at the end of the conc slab. If you can, you need a couple of guys to wade in and lift the trailer up so the wheels can get back on the slab. If they have dropped off more than HALF the wheel diameter, you can't drive it out no matter 4 whl drive or what. You'll end up shearing the U-bolts off the trailer suspension and pull the trailer frame out, leaving the axles and springs in the water.
That’s what I did. This guy got lucky for sure.
This is why I put sliders on my trailer, you never have to back out that far.
Yea I thought the same thing after this happen to me last week a this guy now. That’s gonna be the best option. We appreciate you
I learned from others, I take no credit.
@ I go both ways. Learnt from others and learnt on my own when I got my self into some mess. Hahaha
Nice having a trailer that floats.
That’s what he needed was a floating trailer. That’s a good idea for some of these boat ramps
You're a good dude.
I’ve been there done that so I knew the feeling
PMSL ---- (Pissin Me Slelf Laughing) """Well, thats one way to do it""...
Yea my bad. Hahahahahaha
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Easiest way to fix this is with 2x6 boards put between the ramp edge and the tires.drive up the boards. Stop tearing up your trailers and rigs trying to pull over the hump when you can roll over it
Good idea for sure. We appreciate you
I worked at a party store in Michigan that sat on a lake. The boat ramp was cement. I watched so many people back off that thing, and rip their whole rear ends out trying to pull your trailer back over it.
Dang yea you got to see it all
...hells bells I was starting to feel bad for the guy...you done good breaking off a piece of bread to help another man down on his luck...
Aww yea. Thats what we do I’ve been there done that. I know the feeling hey appreciate you watching commenting. Thanks
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Nice going boys
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Great content!
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Great job in sticking around and helping the guy out how about subscribing to this guy's channel a lot of people would have just stood around and laughed and not done anything when I see something like that I try and put myself in the other guy's shoes and wonder what it would be like and nobody came to help me I guess there's still is hope for society in this country
No doubt about it. I’ve been there done that and they ride off in the wind. Not me. I’m gonna help where ever I can. We appreciate you. Thanks
Well that's one way to do it cracked me up 😂
I did not know what to say but that. i was speechless. lol
Years ago I had a job with the Fisheries Department that took me to a lot of boat ramps. I got see all kinds of crazy things!
I bet you did see some crazy stuff. We appreciate you
What do you call it when you repeatedly do the same thing, expecting different results?
Here’s your sign. Hahahahaa
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Much respect brother!
It’s instinct to just jump in start helping.
That ain't a boatramp... what's a boat dropoff.😂
Lol
I would not lunch a rubber boat at that ramp
You just made me spit my dip out.
They say that theres two days when you love your boat....the day you buy it, and the day you sell it.
That’s the truth. Lol
This is how the marina gets you to store their boats. Sneaky
You know. You might be own to something. Hahahaha
Man someone poured a lot of coffee in the water all you'll need is a creamer.
I know that’s right
"Well, that's one way to do it!" Then, there is the correct way!!
Bingo
What kinda ramp is this?
The kind you only put in when the waters up I guess. Maybe they should put a sign up saying locals only because they seem to have a technique for unloading there. Appreciate you watching commenting Thanks
That Boat ramp EATS up ' trailers' faster than a 12 foot gator chomping on a big bass.
@ hahahaha. It got me once That’s all it took just once.
Well, that’s some nasty looking water
@ in parts it’s nasty muddy stank but them fish in that river. They so pretty an pretty good table fare
Those ppl better of subscribed! After all that help! 😂😂😂
I hope they did. Hey appreciate you watching commenting. Thanks
Like the police in Vienna 😂😂😂
Hahahaha
Just a FYI for the future... two lines tied to the rear of trailer and two strong men in a boat can lift the rear of the trailer up and then the truck can drive forward to get its trailer wheels back on the ramp... been there done that...
Yea he had one of them hold my beer moments so here we are. Hahahahaha
This ever happens you take the trailer winch rope run it under the axle of the trailer hook it to the front of your boat amd tighten it up use the boat to float the trailer just enough to pull foward.
Great idea
Of course you wanna try this before you snap your hitch off lol
@ hahahahahahaha
@gatorsoutdooradventures I only know this works because I had the same thing happen to me. Not even a tow truck could get me out. Or 2 lifted f250s hooked to me at the same time could get me out. After staring at it I said I'm gonna try and float the trailer and it worked flawlessly and I was kinda mad I was stuck there so long lol
@ lol yea I’m gonna learn me something here
Looks like you saved the day for them guys
Yea I was glad the tow truck didn’t show up. That was a waste of money when we could make it happen ourselves. We appreciate you watching commenting. Thanks
Power loading creates the hole at the toe of the ramp. When you back into it, the trailer drops into the hole. best option is to disconnect and lift the trailer out. If you try to pull it out, damage will occur.
No doubt about it. We appreciate you.
I thought that dock piling was gonna get ripped off.
Yea I don’t know why he hooked that rope through that eyelit. Lol
Was that truck even able to spin a tire?
At least the water is nice & clear. 😂
It was sad
Is this what the 3 stooges retirement looks like?
You hit the nail on the head. Hahahaha
Just watched the video! Man I hate it for the guy but I am sure he’s grateful for the help he got from Gators Outdoor Adventure. That’s the way it should be bc everyone knows they could have let the guy go at it alone and went fishing. But bc of the kind of people they are, they hung around and helped the man out. Terrible situation but no loss of life or injuries. God will bless these Good Samaritans for their service. I’m from North Mississippi.
Thanks we appreciate you. Yea if he hadn’t of got frustrated we could’ve saved some time but hey. We all been there done that when we’ve got aggravated.
Hello, very nice of you to help that guy. I would’ve done the same. But the reason I think is that guys loading their boats on the trailer with their engine, flushes all the dirt out at the end of the ramp on the water. Causing a big drop off at the end of the ramp. It’s a bad idea to load your boat in the trailer that way.
You right. It’s washing it out. No doubt there.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 OMG. You can tell the trailer got caught on something.
Hahahahahah did it. What just happen. Lol
This is why we can't have nice things.
You right about that for sure. That’s a great way to tear it up
Lets Talk about the Boat Ramp Design Gradual Slop and then 90 DEGREE Drop ! Excellent !
It’s almost a one of a kind. Hey appreciate you watching commenting. Thanks
Is that a pool of coffe?😮
Might as well be. The smell will get ya when you stir that mud up but them fish are good though
Highland fish camp has and always had to worst boat ramps. But there are few options for accessing lake woodruff. Long run from Astor.
Yea it would take just a little bit of money a that ramp could seal the deal on that place. It’s a nice place but those ramps will hurt your feelings
You did a good job.
We got lucky it wasn’t all hung up under there. Hahahaha
Talked your boy yesterday I think.
These ole country boys can rig something up an make it work.
Man they do it different down south in the warm waters!
That water really ain’t warm right now. Lol now for the southerners
Nice camera by the way
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it's obvious that the trailer tires need more air!
That trailer needed some extra love after what it was put through. Hahahaha. We appreciate you
That ramp is pitiful.
You got that right
That is a bad situation. My son-in-law got his trailer axle hung under the concrete wash out. The only way out was to take a swim and lift the trailer over the ledge. Good think it was in the summer.
Yea that waters a little chilly now. Lol. After the ole timer tried it his way we did it another way. Hahahaha
How’s everyone down your way. You doing any fishing yet.
No fishing yet. My boat is still in the shop. My controller can in for my one man boat late yesterday. Should have it running by this afternoon.
@ aww shucks. You gonna have come this way a fish out that one man boat and I’ve got to come that way a fish with you as well. Whatcha think
How much longer are you going to be at St. JOHN?
Front tires or not even helping that truck clearly has a problem with the four wheel drive system
Yea them tires never spun. I don’t know but it was really weak an straining.
You probably right after thinking about it. Maybe the 4 wheel drive wasn’t working.
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JUST LOOK AT THE GREAT WATER QUALITY !!!! LOOKS LIKE DIESEL FUEL
Smells like it if you stir that mud on the bottom up.
Y’all are some good people. Respect
It’s just what we do. Luckily I was able to make a video an we can all laugh about it now an look back at the memories
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Good people helping people. " Fishermen". Thank goodness you guys were there to help. What a crappy boat ramp. We pay taxes that should keep these ramps navigable. That's a spooky ramp. Geez
Yea it was a good thing we were around no doubt. And that boat ramp. You’d think the money they making from that place they would put some of it towards the boat ramp. Hey we appreciate you watching commenting
I got a boat trailer from my brother several years ago and pulled it from Tennessee to Louisiana a 9 hour drive with zero problems put a hog trap on it several times and last year around April I pulled it put hog trap off in my pasture and got stuck upon pulling it to get my truck out the tandem axle setup broke loose and slid back after lifting it and carrying it back up to my shop I noticed that the axle setup wasn’t bolted or welded at all it apparently had left the manufacturer like this
Holy cow. We need you to share that horse shoe you’re carrying around.
Good on ya for taking a few hours of your fishing time to help a fellow out. I don't know if he offered you anything, but I would have offered you at least a hundred bucks to show gratitude 9and cheaper than a tow truck or new trailer). But if I was you I wouldn't have accepted any money (just the good karma), but I would have asked him: "Instead of taking the money, on your way home stop at the Fish Shanty for dinner and find the oldest and ugliest waitress ('cause they work the hardest and get no love) and slip her a Ben Franklin."
I didn’t give him time to even think about offering me money. We got him hooked to his trailer. He said he appreciated the hell out of it. That was good enough for me. I knew he did. He just got frustrated didn’t think things through. We appreciate you watching commenting. Thanks
Were Did My Trailer Go 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
O she gone. Lol
Living order some crazy boat ramps Can you drop the axles off the ramp Take take the boat Tie rope around the back of the trailer Tie it to the front of the boat Put the boat in reverse Until it starts to lift the trailer Then work with the driver and ease forward Then find another ramp to get the boat to boat #1 number ones gonna bend your axle If you get it out
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What in the world are you guys doing ? !! That ramp is a complete disaster ,and why would anyone use it ?!!!
Didn’t want to drive 40 mins down the road. When your staying there you kinda like to put in there but that want happen again
If ya have a few pulleys and a winch, a person can do a lot. Heck, the pulleys themselves are worth it with good rope.
There you go. You had to throw the good rope in there. Hahahaha. Hey appreciate you watching and pulleys are on the to get list no doubt.
10.
Dollars to launch a boat there, No way they should fix that boat round.
I couldn’t agree more. It could be a really ice place to visit if the boat ramp was actually useable
@gatorsoutdooradventures Where I live. I've seen it done. a man was trying to get boat out On part of lake harden Chattanooga river. He had a Jeep jeep. He got in the trailer out, the first V on Trailer. bent it backwards. If I'm not sure and it's the summer time I don't know the boat Ramp. I walk down it.
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What a crappy boat ramp
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Where is the stern rope
Don’t guess he had one. We had to use mine.
You ever had this happen. At what point do you say. Hey I should stop an figure something else out. Hahahaha
Help the man. We have all had problems if you have a boat. It’s not funny.
We did
Too little late I know...but I have encountered this before (the trailer was lower than the concrete slab)
So should have just got his jack and raise the hitch up (with trailer still attached) and while still jacked and hitched, then drive out.
At least that's what it looks like would have worked.
I suggested that before all the yanking started lol. Hey appreciate you
They have a lot of nerve charging $10 for the use of a ramp that is in such poor condition,
I’m with you
Should of had a Toyota pull that thing out 🤣 Jkjk that’s a sticky situation. I have been in one similar at Pickwick dam in Tennessee due to gravel being stirred up in a pile blocking the ramp
That sucks. That gravel can take away all your traction too. Bust a tire Hey we appreciate you. Thanks
That ramp needs some work wow
Yes it does
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And, to think, all they really had to do was jump in the water and lift it up out of there. 4-5 guys... That trailer should have been no problem.
It happen so quick an he was frustrated from the get go
@@gatorsoutdooradventures I probably shouldn't be too critical... I can remember when I was in my early 20's and putting full power in reverse on my Bayliner in the middle of docking because I thought I was going to slowly bump into the pier. Yep... I could panic with the best of them. :)
@ you got that right. It’s not hard to get in panic mode when there’s eyes around.
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I have a new F150, And these trucks don't let you put the power down.
There’s got to be a way to over ride that. His truck wouldn’t even spin a tire in 4 wheel drive
There is. Turn the traction control off, lock the diff, put in 4 wheel drive, and manually shift it. I have a 22 PB.
@@rogerpease8010 that's what i was thinking. My truck jams on the brakes when i reverse into my step driveway. I saw a video where a guy was trying to flee a car jacking, he needed to pop a curb and get away, but the truck jammed on the brakes to prevent the accident and the guy ended up getting robbed.
Highlands Park
Fish camp??
Yea
And nobody had a tow strap?
All we had was my rope on my boat the store didn’t have any to offer either.
At 2:30 why not unhook trailer from truck, move truck, then concentrate efforts on lifting trailer out of water ? Seems a likely solution.
The ole timer had one of them moments. We all watching him he got frustrated an sent it.
For lord sake put it in 4x4 low he's not in it or he's one of those guys buys a 2 wheel drive truck lol
He was in 4 wheel drive an that truck wouldn’t do anything. I don’t know what was up with that truck
Keep those turbo 4 cylinders out of a truck. V8 or diesel if you own a 4 * 4 pick up
Yea they should’ve never done that with a 4x4. That truck was weak no doubt.
wait a minute you have to pay $10 at that crappy boat launch ?????????????
Yeap 10.00 bucks.
Can’t hear it for the diesel truck running
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Easily the shittiest boat ramp ive ever seen. Very easily. Can't even put in without dragging on the ground? And they want $10? LOL Not a chance in hell, they couldnt pay me $10 to launch there...
I launched on that side to help the guy. Tow truck wasn’t showing up I said we can do this. We appreciate you
I'll need to admit I have never seen this happen, though have heard of going off the ramp quite often. I am ASSUMING that his wheels were hanging over the lip of the concrete. MY way of doing this would be to stop and admit I did something not too great, and ask for ideas on what to do. I would go in the direction that the trailer is not all that heavy and try to find a way to leverage one the hitch and lift the back (hand line from a boat or, if you want to get crazy, a back hoe?). I don'y know. Educate me. What SHOULD he have done (besides not back up so far in the first place)?
We tried to help before it got nasty. He was like hold my beer I got this. Well he thought he had it. lol. Before he got frustrated an went all out I was suggesting take my boat pull the back of trailer up with some rope and he drive forward. He had a different plan. Someone else may have a better idea but that was my idea. The ole timers next idea was wait in tow truck 3 hrs later I was like hey we gotta get this trailer out the way. People starting to pull up to use the ramp. Locals of course so we got on it come up with a plan as we went a got it out. The ole timer was grateful for it no doubt about it. We made some memories for sure
@@gatorsoutdooradventures Thanks for reply.
@@davidbeckenbaugh9598 well I honestly think the guy backing him in couldn’t hear are either misunderstood him maybe. Some boats like mine I have to back in way further than the tandem axle trailers just to get my to even show any resistance it’s so heavy. That puts my trailer wheels off the ramp. The locals have it figured out What we should’ve done was took my boat lifted the back of trailer up an let him ease out but he got frustrated and let it rip. Literally. lol
@ Yes, well, kind of winced at how fast he got stopped by that trailer. The closest I ever came to a major ramp failure was backing an even smaller boat/trailer down the ramp, and one of the wheel cylinder seals blew out. Got it stopped, but it was rear wheel drive and the back end was floating! Holding just on the front brakes. Fun. The parking brake would not have helped so I was stuck there until someone got a strap on the car. That was 1989. NO cell cameras back then so no embarrassing pics as these years down the road. Now-a-days, I just kick my inflatable pontoon boat out the back of the truck, roll it on it's dolly past the line of people waiting, and am out fishing in a few minutes. There is something to be said about being so broke you can't afford a boat!!!!
Peace and blessings to you and yours.
@ yes I remember them days. Where you got sticks an logs to get out are walked a country mile to a pay phone are someone house to call home. Them were the good ole days. Ye his truck did not have any power for some reason. Hey thanks we appreciate you. Good conversation there.