Next Level Racing F-GT Lite foldable cockpit review
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Is the Next Level Racing F-GT Lite the small-space sim racing chassis we’ve been waiting for? Find out in this review.
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Intro: 0:00
Overview: 0:57
Assembly: 1:28
Adjustment hubs: 2:36
Formula and GT driving positions: 3:44
Seat: 6:09
Wheel mount assembly: 6:59
Adjustable pedal deck: 8:26
Included shifter mount: 9:20
Final thoughts: 9:59
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Do most racing sim cockpits include the mounting screws needed to bolt the wheel and pedals to the rig? I purchased a cockpit recently but havn't assembled or unboxed it yet and was wondering if I'll need to purchase additional hardware.
It depends on which cockpit you have @@michaezell4607. However, most rigs do come with extra hardware you can use to mount your electronics. Hope that helps. 👍
What a fantastic review! Thanks very much for the detail and fantastic camera work.
Thanks for your kind words Jason-I'm stoked you liked the review. Happy New Year...here's to a simtastic 2024! 🏎🏁
Ordered today! Thanks for your review.
Thanks for your comment mate. Enjoy the new rig! 👍
The best review I’ve seen of this product. Thanks!
Thanks Pablo-I’m stoked you liked the review. 👍
Best review I've seen! You answer to my main questions.
Thanks Martin-I'm stoked you liked the review and glad I could help. 👍
Well done review. In addition, there is an extra strap available to be used for vertical tightening of the wheel mount bar according to the lastest NLR info video.
Thanks for your comment Pongo-I'm glad you found the review useful. Thanks also for your tip about using the extra strap to improve structural rigidity of the rig. I've actually included this in my revuew of Next Level Racing’s new GT Lite cockpit (which will be posted in the next couple weeks).
Great review! Thanks!
Thanks for your comment Richardo-I’m glad you found the review useful. 👍
i bought mine 2 weeks ago and i love it !
Thanks for your comment Koos. I'm stoked you're enjoying your new rig! 🤙
@@ADAPTNetwork im using this atm with a logitech g29, but when it dies off im defo going for a thrustmaster t300 !
Great choice @@KoosWerkloos. I tested the F-GT Lite with the Thrustmaster TX, which has a peak torque of 3.9Nm. The TX is the Xbox version of the T300, so this would be an ideal combo. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork thanks for the feedback !
Great video review. The whole every screenshot with a different wheel rim pedals seating position is a homerun. The showcase of variety is not something you normally see, even with reviewers such as boosted media for example. I do have this rig and I love it! I run a DD1 on mine at 9-10 Nm as the lowest and I do not get any flex at any point of seat time. Also the Formula position lifting off the floor can be solved by simple sliding your pedals a bit further away from you and use your thigh muscles instead of your ankles. You gain finer control of your throttle and braking inputs finding that ultimate line through the corners dropping your lap times. I am not a pro by any means, this is just something I have picked up along the way.
Thanks for your comment and kind words Slowride-it means a lot. Wow, I’m impressed that you’re able to run the DD1 on the F-GT Lite. For a foldable rig, Next Level Racing really has done a great job at maximising strength and rigidity. I’m looking to upgrade to a direct drive wheel soon, so I’ll be able to do more testing then. Thanks also for the extra tip regarding pedal postion and technique. What pedal set are you running?
What pedals are you running? Load Cell? If you are, are you getting any lift when you put some big force in the brake pedal> I am looking to get the F-GT Lite but I cannot get an answer if there is any pedal lift for load cell pedal users.
Hi @@GavinScruton, I'm so sorry for the late reply-I only just saw your comment. You've probably sorted it by now, but I'll answer anyway. When running a load cell brake pedal with the F-GT Lite in a formula position, you'll likely experience the "bunny hop" issue. However, in a GT position, it's absolutely fine. 👍
Finally a review that shows the bunny hop issue. not a deal breaker though. still a good budget option. thanks for the review
Thanks for your comment Greg. For sure, the F-GT Lite is still a great budget option and there are a few easy ways to mitigate the 'bunny hop' issue, as detailed in the review. 👍
@ADAPT Network I bought one yesterday after watching your vid. I have not noticed the bunny hop so far. I love it for my first wheel and cockpit setup. Can't believe it took from GT1 until now to buy a wheel and realise what I was missing out on
@@Madnezz001 That's awesome mate. Welcome to sim racing! 🤙
SOLD.... I just brought myself one for Christmas because of you!! Also brought the Thrustmaster T300 RS GT wheel! Thank you for your video!!
That's awesome Bobby-happy sim racing mate! 🏎🏁
I bought a leather Playseat Evolution in 2010 with Gran Turismo 5 and it was so uncomfortable and took up way to much space you couldnt even do heel and toe properly since it had a metal bar in the middle between your feet. I bought this next level racing fgt lite for Gran Turismo 7 and threw the play seat in the garbage. This is 100x better then a Playseat. Great review
Thanks for your comment K20. I'm stoked you're enjoying the F-GT Lite! 🤙
I'm not a fan of centre post sim rigs either. If you only have a two pedal set with paddal shift, then it works OK. However, as soon as you introduce a clutch pedal, it doesn't work as well.
This is the best foldable racing seat ever!
Thanks for your comment Muls. No doubt, The F-GT Lite is a fantastic foldable rig for formula racing. Though, if you focus more on GT racing, I've been very impressed by the GT Lite Pro ( ruclips.net/video/JJpJ7OPT9Lw/видео.html ). Happy sim racing dude! 🏎🏁
Great review. It looks like it would be perfect for apartment living.
Thanks Greg-I’m stoked you liked the review. For sure, both the F-GT Lite and GT Lite ( ruclips.net/video/6IPM555JWiE/видео.html ) are ideal for smaller living spaces where there isn’t enough space for a permanent sim racing rig. 👍
Thanks for the info, really appreciate you posting this. I'm basically a bit of chunky git and the F1 position would have me calling for help to get out I think lol !! Currys have the lite version ( non F1 ) for £169 at mo, may have to get one of those. Cheers
Thanks for your comment mate-I’m really glad you found the review useful. If you’re interested, I’ve also reviewed the GT Lite that Currys have on sale ( ruclips.net/video/6IPM555JWiE/видео.html ). It’s another very good option in my opinion.
personally I own playseat challenge due to its better compactness and foldability with the wheel and pedals mounted on, but I tend to like this one more from the functionality point of view
Thanks for your comment Dany. No doubt the Playseat Challenge is a fantastic little rig-it's compact and much easier to fold away for storage. However, as you say, the F-GT Lite has some useful features missing from the Challenge; namely the included shifter mount and ability to hard mount your pedals.
Great video. Very intuitive. Could you please explain what the difference between the F GT Lite and the F GT Lite iRacing Edition is? Have really scoured the net looking for clear cut differences, without much luck. Thanks in advance
Thanks for your question Clayton-I'm stoked you liked the review. Aside from the colour difference (blue accents rather than red) and addition of the iRacing logo, there are no structural differences between the regular F-GT Lite and the iRacing edition. The iRacing edition, however, comes with a free 12-month iRacing membership for new members. Hope that clarifies. See our article for more information here: adaptnet.work/CJWH
I bought one & the 'bunny hopping' issue makes it unusable in the Formula position without bolting the 2 pieces of the rig (seat & pedal deck) down; I tried every position & any real pressure on my loadcell brake (T-LCM) &it lifted. Had to send it back but would advise anyone to pay £50 less & get the fixed GT version, it works fine in that position.
Sorry to hear that you had these issue GSAM. I think for non-loadcell pedals, the 'bunny hopping' is not as problematic. Here's my review of the GT Lite for anyone interested: ruclips.net/video/6IPM555JWiE/видео.html
Hi There. I'm modding my g923 pedals with the true brake mod. I have my seat in a gt style position with the rear leg one notch back from the gt setting - So somewhere between the formula and the gt setting. I also have the pedal set as close to flat as possible.
In your experience, am I likely to suffer brake bunny hop and the pedal base/frame pivot point when I install the true brake? Or do you think I'll be OK?
Thanks for your question Cheese. I think you should be fine here; in this video, I was pushing hard on on the T3PA pedals (with the conical brake mod installed). And, in my case, the bunny hop issue only occured in the full formula position. Hope that clarifies. 👍
Got them both
Thanks for your comment MrBuzzel7. Which rig do you prefer?
The F-GT because it's not so tight as the Challenge when your sit on it
Yeah, I agree @@MrBuzzel7 -I also find that the ability to hard mount your pedals and shifter, on the F-GT Lite, makes a huge difference to the sim racing experience.
Good review, can you tell what are the dimensions when folded with the steering wheel mounted ?
Thanks for your question Norbert. The exact dimensions will vary depending on which steering wheel is mounted to the rig. However, it's possible to fold down the F-GT Lite to a tiny footprint of just 75 x 40 x 87 cm. Hope that helps. 👍
Can you add a handbrake on this?
Hi,
Do you have the 3 dimensions when folded with a wheel and pedals (dd pro)?
Thanks for your question Giorgio. I don't have the exact dimensions to hand, but I estimate them to be 85 X 50 X 90cm. Hope that helps. 👍
hello ive just saved up enough money to make a big setup upgrade i was on a custom sketchy wheel mount on the floor made with boxes etc,it wasnt terrible but i want to get into more serious sim racing but have limited space im looking at a TS-XW wheel base and want to do mostly formula racing with gt here and there, i just want something i can through in the corner when im not using it and be nice, comfortable and sturdy when in use would you recommend this for a situation like mine?
Thanks for your question Jameson. With a peak torque of 6.4Nm, the TS-XW is almost twice as powerful as the Thrustmaster TX I used in this review. I'd therefore recommend the Wheel Stand 2.0 as a more robust option that you can also upgrade to a full cockpit in the future ( ruclips.net/video/RZEVk902xBc/видео.html ). Hope that helps. 👍
great review! does anyone know if I could use this as I am 6 foot 5 inches.
Thanks for your question Molon. Next Level Racing states that the F-GT Lite can support drivers up to 6ft 6 inches (200 cm). There’s ample adjustability in the pedal deck (8:36), so I think you should be fine. If needed, you could even modify the rig by extending the link between the front leg and pedal deck to increase leg room further. Hope that helps. 👍
Do you have any way to put a th8a shifter and also a handbrake on the shifter plate because it looks a bit small ?
Great question 7up. Yeah, I think the default shifter mount that comes with the F-GT Lite is a bit too small to install a handbrake alongside a shifter. However, Next Level Racing has recently launched a flight pack add-on, which includes two larger mounts. While these are designed for flight sim equiptment, I think that they would also work with sim racing hardware. For more information on the flight pack, check out my recent article here: adaptnet.work/4WQW
I hope that helps. 👍
I have a shh shifter and cheap ebay e brake both mounted onto the shifter plate.
I thought it wouldn't fit but surprisingly it works really well. I just screw in one screw on the ebrake and that was enough to mount it on the edge and still be sturdy and not move while using it.
Other wheel stands and rigs the shifter plate is at a weird angle or bad location imo. This one feels natural to me.
Hello! May ask what is the height from the floor to the top of your table? Or from floor to top of the F-GT Lite's wheel mounting plate in GT position? I was looking at a similar setup but am worried the table/monitor would be too high
Great question Julian. The height of my desk is 72.5cm from the floor to the desk top. In a GT driving position, the height of the F-GT Lite’s wheel deck is a little lower than this, but it‘s workable. I hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork Thanks so much! Really appreciate your reply. Based on those numbers it's definitely workable, especially if one is using a monitor arm allowing the monitor to be moved forward and down really low! Cheers!
No worries @@juliantan3432-glad I could help. Let me know how you get on with your setup.
I find the wheel is too close to my chest. How can I extend it outwards more?
Thanks for your question Joe. You can adjust the position of the wheel deck forward and back by 2.5cm increments. To do this, you need to unscrew and realign the four bolts that secure the wheel deck to the frame (7:50). Hope that helps. 👍
Great video! Thank you very much! I'm looking for an affordable seat in which I can seat in F1 position. Is is comfortable?
Thanks for your question Teddy. While the F-GT Lite is never going to be as comfortable as a full bucket or reclining seat, I was really impressed with the design and found it much more comfortable than the Playseat Challenge. For long driving sessions you can also add a lumbar cushion for more support. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork thank you for your response! Have a great day!
Can you put the shifter mount on the other side??
Thanks for your question mate. Yes, the shifter mount can be installed on either side of the rig. 👍
Does it come with the wheel, gear box and pedals or not?
Thanks for your question Logan. The F-GT Lite doesn't come with any electronics, so you'll need to purchase these separately.
How sure are you, that no DD wheel can be supported by this rig? What about a Moza R5 with the loadcell pedals?
Thanks for your question Mordrede100. To clarify, I’m not saying that the frame couldn’t handle a direct drive wheel, but it’s not stable enough to get the most out of the extra torque; you’ll simple lose most of it through vibrations in the frame. On the other hand, you should be fine running a load cell brake pedal-as long as you don't apply exessive brake pressure. Another option worth considering is the Wheel Stand 2.0 ( ruclips.net/video/RZEVk902xBc/видео.html ). Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork Hey! Thanks for getting back to me, I feel like a cool guy a celebrity responded to :D jokes aside, thanks for the feedback, you are a solid bloke, cheers!
Happy to help @@Mordrede100. FYI, being called a 'celebrity' has made my day haha-happy sim racing dude. 😎
@@ADAPTNetwork Happy to read that, thanks!
Can that seat be folded with the wheel and peddles still attached ?
Thanks for your question wolfe. Yes, the folding process is the same with equipment still attached. Here's an example of the GT Lite folded with the wheel, pedals and shifter attached (note that the F-GT Lite can fold down even further): ruclips.net/video/6IPM555JWiE/видео.html
How resistant is the structure to horizontal loads? Are you sending it to Russia?
Thanks for your question Cyber. With the strap tightened down, there is very little horizontal motion in the wheel deck (6:59). I don’t think that you’ll be able to run a direct drive wheel on the F-GT Lite, but you should have no problem using any belt or gear driven wheel, even with high force feedback. I've had a quick search online and I think you can buy the rig in Russia from here: adaptnet.work/2n2i
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Thank you! I will take note. The engineering solution is class!
Please is the wheel included or only the setup without the wheel?
Thanks for your question Arsène. The F-GT Lite doesn't come with any electronics, so you'll need to purchase these separately.
Is there a handbrake mount available?
Thanks for your question Jeff. Unfortunately, Next Level Racing doesn't make a specific handbrake mount for the F-GT Lite. However, there is a flight pack add-on available ( adaptnet.work/4WQW ). This includes two larger mounting plates that fit into the shifter mount slots and could be adapted to mount a shifter and handbrake. Hope that helps. 👍
How tall are you? Great review btw
Thanks for your comment Seb. I'm about 5ft 9.5 inches (176.5cm) and average build. Hope that helps. 👍
Got this today, using the second f1 position you showed but it keeps collapsing 🤷♂️
Thanks for your comment B&P. Sorry to hear that you're having a few issues. I'd suggest re-tightening the adjustments hubs and adding a few cushions or a bean bag underneath the seat for additional support. This should reduce the load on the back leg and stop it collapsing. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork is the strap on left side supposed to be used for support
@@bitspieces7116 Yes, be sure to tighten down the strap to increase the rigidity of the rig. You can also use the extra webbing that comes in the box. I discuss this in my GT Lite review ( ruclips.net/video/6IPM555JWiE/видео.html ), however, for your case I'd suggest wrapping the webbing underneath the two legs to pull them together and prevent the rear leg from collapsing.
Probably wont work With the New csl dd With 8nm i guess? (flexing)
Thanks for your question Felix. The wheel deck on the F-GT Lite is pre-drilled for Fanatec wheels (7:30), so you should have no problems there. In order to access the triangle mounting pattern for Fanatec wheels, you just need to adjust the position of the wheel deck forward. With a peak torque of 8Nm on the CSL DD, however, you may lose a lot of feedback through vibrations in the frame. That being said, I tested the rig with my Thrustmaster TX at 100% force feedback (peak torque 3.9Nm) and I didn’t notice any movement when racing. Therefore, I would suggest running the CSL DD at just 5Nm-without the optional boost kit-for the best experience. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork it helps alot thank you for the reply
I already ordered it With the boostkit so maybe its better to go for the f gt non lite Version and just get the casters for it if i have to move it
Yeah, I think that’s a good move @@_NeverLate_. Enjoy the new rig and wheel mate.
that thing looks flimsy as hell and as comfortable as a deck chair. Very profesionally made video though !
Thanks for your comment Rab-I appreciate your kind words regarding the video. The F-GT Lite is surprisingly sturdy for a foldable sim racing cockpit. I wouldn't suggest running a direct drive wheel, but its certainly stable enough for most belt and gear driven wheels on the market. Compared to the Playseat Challenge, I also found it quite comfortable. Hope that helps. 👍
Next or Playseat?
Thanks for your question Саша. Personally, I would opt for the F-GT Lite over the Playseat Challenge. You can hard mount your pedals and it comes with a shifter mount as standard. Plus, the option to switch between formula and GT driving positions on the fly, is a nice bonus. Hope that helps. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork спасибо я заказал next level
thank you I ordered next level
No worries @@user-om3nc2up5p-hope you enjoy the new rig.
160 in currys atm
Thanks for the heads up Big Al. I just checked and this is for the GT Lite rather than the F-GT Lite, but a bargain all the same. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork oh OK, I bought it for my son for Christmas
That’s awesome @@I_am_BiG_Al-your son will love it. If you’re interested, here’s my review of the GT Lite (it’s very similar to the F-GT Lite with some slight differences): ruclips.net/video/6IPM555JWiE/видео.html
i hear those things last like shit
Thanks for your comment the dude. While the F-GT Lite and GT Lite are not as robust as non-foldable rigs, they are surprisingly strong and, with correct care, they should last a decent time.
Great review but sorry, I have to disagree,I think the Playseat Challenge is a much better option as it's far more comfortable and supporting, also, I don't have to add things to stop it moving or add cushions to it etc. Plus the Playseat is a lot quicker & easier to set-up & fold-away each time you want to play and it folds down to have a smaller footprint, so it's easier to store !!
The Playseat Challenge is much more of a bucket-seat style too which also has arm-rests, which are all made out of a better material than the FGT-Lite imo !!
Over-all, I much prefer the Playseat Challenge, I think it's a better design all-round and functions better, easier to move around and change seating positions on-the-fly, it's lighter, more stable, easier to store, over £100 cheaper !!
The FGT-Lite really does look like a cheap, flat and uncomfortable looking deck-chair (and an over-sized one at that) where-as the Playseat hugs your body and holds you in-place like a proper bucket seat.....Need I go-on !?!?
I've come to this conclusion after playing in both chairs extensively and generally using them as you would do from day-to-day and the only thing I liked about the FGT-Lite is the Locking-Joints BUT they really needed to have much smaller notches to allow for a finer and more accurate adjustment to set your seating position, so because of this I still prefer the way Playseat uses the Large Velcro Straps as it allows you to Fine-Tune your seating position exactly how you want !!
I just feel this one is Massively over-priced and needed more time on the design table !!
It was a great in-depth review though.....Very thorough !!
If we all liked the same things, the world would be a avery boring place !!
EDITED to fix a bit of dodgey spelling.....Doh !!
Hape I goot thim aal !?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts FatalDragon. I agree that the Playseat Challenge does have some advantages over the F-GT Lite-most notably, it’s easier to fold away for storage (like you say). However, once you get used to the adjustment hubs on the F-GT Lite, you can fold it down to a tiny footprint of just 75 x 40 x 87cm (2:50).
I guess comfort comes down to personal preference. I did find the Playseat Challenge comfortable, but I think more people will benifit from the larger seat of the F-GT Lite. The other advantages that the F-GT Lite offers over the Playseat, is that it comes with a shifter mount as standard and you can hard mount your pedals.
Next Level Racing has since launched a GT-only version of the F-GT Lite called the GT-Lite (ruclips.net/video/6IPM555JWiE/видео.html). This might be worth considering, since its a bit cheaper and I found that it was easier to fold away than the F-GT Lite.
Overall, I would say that the Playseat Challenge remains a good starter rig for sim racers using a smaller two-pedal set with paddal shifting. However, for those using higher-end pedals and/or an H-pattern or sequential shifter, the F-GT Lite and GT-Lite are better options. Thoughts?
@@ADAPTNetwork Yeah I agree, the Hard-Mount option for the pedals is always good but to be honest mine haven't moved since I installed them using just the Velcro (there is a hard-mount plate available online if you wanted) I'm using a Logitech G-920 Wheel and Pedal Set, which has 3 Pedals (I've up-rated the springs and added a better damper to the brake for better precision and realism)
I also have the H-Pattern Shifter, which I have hard-mounted to the frame via an aluminium adapter-plate I bought on E-bay which holds it nice and solid exactly where I want it and I'm looking at getting a Handbrake sometime in the near future and fit it in a similar way to the Shifter.
That's the only thing Playseat didn't think about really.....Using an external shifter and handbrake and how to fit them to the seat but there's plenty of options/solutions available online for both of them now which don't cost a huge amount of money and are simple to install too, so it's great that the F-GT Lite has thought about this and actually supply the mounts for them as well.....Nice one !!
@@ADAPTNetwork I also agree that the F-GT Lite would accomodate a larger player better than the Playseat, a 6ft person can play in the Playseat just fine but if a player is large the other way then things get a bit too tight and snug.....This is where the F-GT Lite shines, it's definitely been built to accomodate a wider range of body-types !!
Nice @@fataldragon69, it sounds like you’ve put together a decent setup there. I didn’t know about the third-party pedal hard-mount-I’ll have to check that out. I used a RAM Mount (amzn.to/3qyaYxa) to attach my Thrustmaster TH8A to the Playseat Challenge. It worked really well, so it might be a good option for mounting your handbrake. 👍
@@ADAPTNetwork Thanks, I appreciate it, I like the set-up, since I can't have a better rig as space is an issue, I found this works spot-on for me right now.
That RAM Mount looks pretty good too, should work nicely, I'll definitely bookmark it for when I finally get around to buying a Handbrake.....Nice One, Thank You !!
I can't remember where I saw the Hard-Mount Plate for the Playseat as it was a little while ago now, if I remember it or find it I'll post a link for you here but have you seen this company.....
www.customsimshop.com/
.....They do some Great Work and Really Quality & Innovative Mods for a lot of the Sim Racing Manufacturers !!
WHICH TIPE OF PC IS THIS IN THIS VIDEO?
Thanks for your question Saetta. My PC is a Dell Alienware Aurora R5. It's a 2016 model, but still runs most new games smoothly, without ray tracing ( ruclips.net/video/LHNZYMCG86k/видео.html ). You could probably find a second-hand unit online, or opt for one of the newer iterations. Hope that helps. 👍
SORRY BUT THE PC? EVERY PC WOULD BE GOOD FOR THIS SIMULATOR?
Thanks for your question Saetta. iRacing-the simulator I use in this video-is not very resource hungry, so most modern PCs and laptops will be able to run it. Check out the iRacing website for more details on specific hardware requirements. Hope that helps. 👍