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WinAmp Man that takes me back. I put my built 400 Pontiac up to 6,500ish on the factory rods (ARP prob saved me) and my TH475 TCI vomited trans fluid, this was years ago, thought it was something serious, know you know why SUMMIT and JEGS sell that vent tube catch can for autos.✔
Funny my brother had bought a built th350 for TCI and didn't use he sold to a friend of mine that put it in a 76 firebird with a 455. First pass at the track in the burnout box the trans puked fluid and the car caught on fire
What are the chances that you'd give a run down on remote mounted turbos? I've been looking at some on RUclips and other sites and there's not much about them. If it's in the wiki it's gotta be an honorable mention, I tried to do a cursory check but found nothing..
Can't wait to do this to my 2000 Blazer ! Already have a 350 swapped into it but I want to do your 5.3/4.8 build so bad! Just have to come up with something for turbo placement
I cant really tell in the dino pull graph but around what rpm does the boost ramp in? Im tryin to do the same thing but with a 1946 chevy pickup so you wanna talk about no room in a s10 lol
@sloppy mechanics Hey mate, love your channel, I have a stock ls1, I am planning on doing a rear mount turbo setup like what you have in the truck, I was thinking of going a single T76 on 8psi of boost, I am capable of doing all the engine and fab work myself, I was going to take the oil pan off, tig an oil return into the pan, replace big end bearings and set clearances @.002-.0025", replace rod bolts with arp 2000 series bolts, and replace harmonic balancer with an aftermarket item I have sitting around, Would the stock ls1, with an extra bosh 44 pump, injector decap, and the t76 be ideal and hold together as a reliable daily @8psi? I would be happy if it made 450hp at the tyres, Or would a twin gt35 setup be better/more suitable?
Wow knocked down pretty impressive numbers, not dramatic, probably a good power level for that truck maybe keep it somewhat headed forwards (note I didn't say straight lol).
Question : When you tune a flex fuel vehicle: You create a map for gas,and one for E85 ,then the ecu adjust fuel and spark values relative to the spectrum of fuel blending ,by using %,and interpolation, or you need to do something else ?
The ecu will add fuel and spark based off ethanol content, if they bring the car on strait ethanol I tune it on that and make a judgement call for what will be safe of strait pump, or they bring it on pump and I tune it safe then we pour in ethanol and I use the ethanol spark added table if applicable and tune it for e85 also it’s hard to answer depends on capability of the ecu and combo etc, we do what we can with what we’ve got
Yeah, really where does the exhaust run near on most production vehicles? Also, some of those tanks are made of PLASTIC. Not only that but it also ignores that those turbos have blankets, and good blankets make a huge difference.
600 ?!? that's it ?! you can get that out of a healthy big bock! theirs GOT to be A LOT more in that combo! its a cool setup! i like the remote mount idea ... keep working on it .... needs more fuel !!!
I thought I remember you mentioning something about this in a previous video, but I can't remember what video and couldn't find answers on google. Why do you commonly plot horsepower vs. wheel speed as opposed to horsepower vs. engine RPM?
Dear Mr. Sloppy! LOL I am building a TBI Chevy 350 in a 1994 gmc C-2500. LS is next! I have a GT45 turbo with 3" air to air, bov, what, and a blow threw hat on the TBI. Yes I said TBI! In theory my plan should work I am using a separate injector driver with two 1000cc screw in injectors screwed to the top of the blow through hat and the controller is from Split Second it has a map sensor built-in and a signal clamp for the other map which I replaced with a 2 bar sensor and have a wideband to keep an eye on it. The injector controller has software to tune the driver. My question is can I make some HP without blowing it up with the TBI on it? Oh and I have blown $2600 on all the parts and am at the end of the stack of money and need help to get it running. I will send an email to you with more specs.
Can I just ask also. All motor 5.3. I have your sloppy stage two cam and the Pac springs. We only have 91 octane where l live in Montana. Going to put it in my 66 Chevelle with a 3.73 gears. Any estimate on a 1/4 et. High 12's possible? Absolute love your videos! I have learned a lot. Want to do a turbo later. Thanks Eric
Sloppy Mechanics shoot. I’ll take that too but I meant with a turbo I see that you sometimes run upwards of 15 psi on pump gas, I’m guessing that varies for what the motor likes psi/timing but with a turbo
Ryan Stevens would he even touch a carb? EFI seems like the way to go, but I don’t work on this stuff all day. I’m just a dreamer who hasn’t put many ideas in motion. I usually just give up or can’t afford it.
Makes me wonder where the "height" and "distance" start becoming an issue, that one company that sells rear Turbo setups is / was working on a stand alone oiling system.
People have been trying to make standalone oil systems for turbos work for at least 15 years. I'm with you; there has to be a way. I haven't found it yet, though.
@@jasonandjenparks1523 I'm sure you can have a small 4-5qt reservoir for the oil and use a scavenge pump to feed turbos and have it run through a small oil/tranny cooler before returning to the reservoir. Put a small fan on the cooler to help when car is not moving.
What is that noise as the dyno comes to a stop? Also ages ago Matt got sent in a letter from a viewer I think It was called fuckology but it was the funniest letter, does anyone know off hand what it was called cause for the life of me I can't remember, great work Matt
It seemed like it wasn't really hitting that hard when you floored it. At least compared to some other cars you've done. At first I thought it might have been in 4th...then I remembered you said it was a TH400. lol...must be the exhaust being so quiet.
you can assure all you want, two totally different types of power though. I have a built 400, they are nasty when done right. big block punch out of a small block. my 5.3 is great as well, but zero bottom end.
the old pump gas 406 ran 11.40s at 122 with tiny heads. It ran good and whooped a lot of BB cars that were street oriented. yeah, a stout BB car would beat it. Now it actually hooks decent in 1st on the street and is an animal where it can be. and im talking a 275 street tire. i like it but it was a learning curve to drive.
They sound like the same mechanics who used to say that a 35R would be too big and laggy for my Vw back in the day....... Funniest part was we had gone even bigger while they were still arguing over how late the 35R would spool lol.
550 RWHP on how much booooooost? Matt where do get all of this time to work (at your real job) take care of little guy, build cars, tune/dyno, do burnouts and paint pretty little trees with Bob Ross paintings?
We NEED more coverage on this thing!
I know, I know, this is a very old video. I still love them and get excited how easy it is to turbo these motors. Thanks again
Really love the music in the background, makes it sound a lot more professional!
awesome, thanks again for all the videos, etc that you put out.
The seats and the truck's color match pretty well.
wow, i can't believe it! no twisting motor mounts, no hoses blowing off, mufflers....it can't be sloppy!
I like it!! That thing was some real quiet Mufflers would scare the crap out of people when he opened it up
WinAmp
Man that takes me back.
I put my built 400 Pontiac up to 6,500ish on the factory rods (ARP prob saved me) and my TH475 TCI vomited trans fluid, this was years ago, thought it was something serious, know you know why SUMMIT and JEGS sell that vent tube catch can for autos.✔
Funny my brother had bought a built th350 for TCI and didn't use he sold to a friend of mine that put it in a 76 firebird with a 455. First pass at the track in the burnout box the trans puked fluid and the car caught on fire
This is a great one Matt, thanks!! Props to Diiennnnnoofab too! :)
“At least your not the fedex guy.” Lol, that got the best of me for some reason.
Really like that build sick!!
That's plenty of power for that little truck. Especially if it's his first time having that much power.
I like this truck...
I think Matt's face in the thumbnail accurately sums up his feelings on S10s.
I like It if he did that with his old motor he would still make around the same HP but gotta try new things awesome keep up the good work
How do you feel about sts rear mount turbos? I'm pondering getting this for 4th gen Camaro.
Awesome intro and exit, thanks Matt much appreciated again!
Love the videos and all the info! Thanks so much!
That things dope af
Nice figures. It will surprise some people off the lights cuz it's so quiet!
What are the chances that you'd give a run down on remote mounted turbos? I've been looking at some on RUclips and other sites and there's not much about them. If it's in the wiki it's gotta be an honorable mention, I tried to do a cursory check but found nothing..
Can't wait to do this to my 2000 Blazer ! Already have a 350 swapped into it but I want to do your 5.3/4.8 build so bad! Just have to come up with something for turbo placement
Was this with stock truck manifolds? Trying to get an idea on how to build a rear mount turbo set up for my ls swap g35
I cant really tell in the dino pull graph but around what rpm does the boost ramp in? Im tryin to do the same thing but with a 1946 chevy pickup so you wanna talk about no room in a s10 lol
Love it i have a s10 im wanting to put a LS in just gotta get one!
cool truck
@sloppy mechanics
Hey mate, love your channel,
I have a stock ls1,
I am planning on doing a rear mount turbo setup like what you have in the truck, I was thinking of going a single T76 on 8psi of boost, I am capable of doing all the engine and fab work myself,
I was going to take the oil pan off, tig an oil return into the pan, replace big end bearings and set clearances @.002-.0025", replace rod bolts with arp 2000 series bolts, and replace harmonic balancer with an aftermarket item I have sitting around,
Would the stock ls1, with an extra bosh 44 pump, injector decap, and the t76 be ideal and hold together as a reliable daily @8psi?
I would be happy if it made 450hp at the tyres,
Or would a twin gt35 setup be better/more suitable?
Wow knocked down pretty impressive numbers, not dramatic, probably a good power level for that truck maybe keep it somewhat headed forwards (note I didn't say straight lol).
Is this the good ole 14psi 14* combo or was there more timing? Great vid as usual.
10psi 19deg made 515, 14psi 17deg made 603
i saw the title and was like yes sloppy is back then watched the video and WTF no fire damn click bait title lol should be a fun little truck
I’m a first gen S-10 guy. I had two of them.
i had one with a 283 sbc a real screamer
Its better than having the hair dryers under the dash?
Question :
When you tune a flex fuel vehicle:
You create a map for gas,and one for E85 ,then the ecu adjust fuel and spark values relative to the spectrum of fuel blending ,by using %,and interpolation, or you need to do something else ?
The ecu will add fuel and spark based off ethanol content, if they bring the car on strait ethanol I tune it on that and make a judgement call for what will be safe of strait pump, or they bring it on pump and I tune it safe then we pour in ethanol and I use the ethanol spark added table if applicable and tune it for e85 also it’s hard to answer depends on capability of the ecu and combo etc, we do what we can with what we’ve got
Ok,
Thank you.
Damn peer pressure...
Damn dude, I thought this build would introduce some serious turbo lag but....
... that curve is as smooth as butter... must be the auto trans =P
Cell beside 2 whistles makes bang bang sounds too... Idk why not rear the cell and over axle ?
Bad Ass S10 LS
What pump are you using to scavenge oil from the tank? Thanks for the vids.
Turbo werx
What’s it like driving remote mounted turbos on the street?
Goal for my little s10
No roll cage.? Does that thing at least have an X brace under it?
Lmfao @ the intro. I saw the comments in that post. People are hilarious. Pressurized fuel in a engine bay scares me way more.
Yeah, really where does the exhaust run near on most production vehicles? Also, some of those tanks are made of PLASTIC. Not only that but it also ignores that those turbos have blankets, and good blankets make a huge difference.
TY
Matt, your buddies can ramble, but you're better 😉
600 ?!? that's it ?! you can get that out of a healthy big bock! theirs GOT to be A LOT more in that combo! its a cool setup! i like the remote mount idea ... keep working on it .... needs more fuel !!!
With the turbos in the bed doesn’t it take awhile for the boost to come on? I’m just wondering what it’s like to drive on the street.
doesnt make a difference, common misconception.
Cable throttle body. 👍
fuck that that stepper motor pos
my 86 mazda b2000 ls swap with the same gt,35's on 92 pump went 9,89 at 137 and that was @ 12 lbs "running on just the springs :)p
on E85 ?
I thought I remember you mentioning something about this in a previous video, but I can't remember what video and couldn't find answers on google. Why do you commonly plot horsepower vs. wheel speed as opposed to horsepower vs. engine RPM?
ruclips.net/video/tvmxiv0ZkpQ/видео.html
I guess I should have looked around more lmao. Thanks!!
Like the truck... Track video (what can it do)....lol
it will happen,may take a little, my life is crazy
I see where you got your knickname! Putting the hotside turbo against your fuel tank must have seemed like a great idea at the time.
yeah, the fuel cell with plate steel in between. carry on though
Could you bed mounted turbos on a daily. I would think everyday rain and stuff would be a problem. Anyone?
I would love to build a truck like that I'd be happy with 1 turbo lol
1 pro mod turbo will do!
Is there an Eeyore rain cloud that's always over the shop? Seems like every dyno vid has a wet car in it.
last 8 months it has been raining in PA
+Sloppy Mechanics Where in PA ? Have you ever tracked this Beast Yet ? Time ?
Why the help won't you approve my request for SM on FB ?
I know it's not really the point, but what kind of MPG do these setups get?
Most are capable of 18/22 highway
Sloppy Mechanics is that with an overdrive transmission in mind?
thats a bad mamajama
Dear Mr. Sloppy! LOL I am building a TBI Chevy 350 in a 1994 gmc C-2500. LS is next! I have a GT45 turbo with 3" air to air, bov, what, and a blow threw hat on the TBI. Yes I said TBI! In theory my plan should work I am using a separate injector driver with two 1000cc screw in injectors screwed to the top of the blow through hat and the controller is from Split Second it has a map sensor built-in and a signal clamp for the other map which I replaced with a 2 bar sensor and have a wideband to keep an eye on it. The injector controller has software to tune the driver. My question is can I make some HP without blowing it up with the TBI on it? Oh and I have blown $2600 on all the parts and am at the end of the stack of money and need help to get it running. I will send an email to you with more specs.
What is realistic hp on something like a sloppy stage 2 5.3 with 93 octane and a 4l80e. There is absolutely no E where I live at.
all motor?
Can I just ask also. All motor 5.3. I have your sloppy stage two cam and the Pac springs. We only have 91 octane where l live in Montana.
Going to put it in my 66 Chevelle with a 3.73 gears.
Any estimate on a 1/4 et. High 12's possible?
Absolute love your videos! I have learned a lot.
Want to do a turbo later.
Thanks
Eric
Sloppy Mechanics shoot. I’ll take that too but I meant with a turbo I see that you sometimes run upwards of 15 psi on pump gas, I’m guessing that varies for what the motor likes psi/timing but with a turbo
305 lean, 380 rich.
Ellenor Malik “turbo”
I have a 5.3 with carb conversion on it and want you to tune it with spray. Love your videos .
Ryan Stevens carburetors are just toilets
Ryan Stevens would he even touch a carb? EFI seems like the way to go, but I don’t work on this stuff all day. I’m just a dreamer who hasn’t put many ideas in motion. I usually just give up or can’t afford it.
What's the cost to add twin turbos to a ls swap?
Depends on your fabrication skills....some people its just the cost of parts, other people it would cost hourly fab work and cost of parts.
Somebody thumbs down for S10 smell.
How do you run oil feed and drain for a remote setup like that?
feed from engine normally, hes running a catch can and scavenge pump to return oil back to engine
That's what I expected, but based on the fireball fuel cell/turbo setup, I was hoping it was gravity fed through the cab.
Makes me wonder where the "height" and "distance" start becoming an issue, that one company that sells rear Turbo setups is / was working on a stand alone oiling system.
People have been trying to make standalone oil systems for turbos work for at least 15 years. I'm with you; there has to be a way. I haven't found it yet, though.
@@jasonandjenparks1523 I'm sure you can have a small 4-5qt reservoir for the oil and use a scavenge pump to feed turbos and have it run through a small oil/tranny cooler before returning to the reservoir. Put a small fan on the cooler to help when car is not moving.
Deathwish S-10
😹😹😹 that fucking intro!!!
Why would he get kicked out at the track?
No cage
Congrats, the twin Turbo 5.3 made what a good 400 small block makes N/A 🤪
im sure you have many videos proving so
imlwrthnu in fact, I do
@@theoldmansgarage you have one single uploaded video, go away
now i realize why guys like your kid more than you
Is this the one that caught fire that was posted on the sloppy Facebook page
no, this one has never caught fire.
YET. LOL
I would bet the 406 I bought from him it never will.
What is that noise as the dyno comes to a stop? Also ages ago Matt got sent in a letter from a viewer I think It was called fuckology but it was the funniest letter, does anyone know off hand what it was called cause for the life of me I can't remember, great work Matt
That is the new air brake he put on the dyno drum.
Ahh ok thanks
Fuckonomics 101
Thankyou
It seemed like it wasn't really hitting that hard when you floored it. At least compared to some other cars you've done. At first I thought it might have been in 4th...then I remembered you said it was a TH400. lol...must be the exhaust being so quiet.
Yeah it seems like nothing is going on for 600whp lol very tame looking
looking at the graphs, id probably rather have the 400 with more punch down low for ripping on the streets. each to his own though
i can assure you, the new setup is way better
you can assure all you want, two totally different types of power though. I have a built 400, they are nasty when done right. big block punch out of a small block. my 5.3 is great as well, but zero bottom end.
the old pump gas 406 ran 11.40s at 122 with tiny heads. It ran good and whooped a lot of BB cars that were street oriented. yeah, a stout BB car would beat it. Now it actually hooks decent in 1st on the street and is an animal where it can be. and im talking a 275 street tire. i like it but it was a learning curve to drive.
Get that fuel tank and battery in the rear for traction .....
What turbos?
VS racing gt35s
Car craft made 1200+hp on stock parts with a ebay quad turbo kit. It was insane!
You know things are making power when you need a catch can for your transmission....
the ptc 9.5 likes to push fluid on Decel
love s10's, they are all bad ideas so why not make is as bad of an idea as you can get
facebook mechanics be like:BuT It WiLl hAvE mAsSiVe LaG bEcAuSe ThE tUrBoS aRe So FaR!!1!,,, (insert spongebob meme here)
They sound like the same mechanics who used to say that a 35R would be too big and laggy for my Vw back in the day....... Funniest part was we had gone even bigger while they were still arguing over how late the 35R would spool lol.
Single 450 pump?
he has a fuel cell and a a1000 from like 1995 so that is whats still in there
Also would like to know! How much can a single 450 push on pump 91?
approx 700 through auto
66638 subs right now. Lol 666
He could and should of been making that kinda power on the 400 n/a though...
where is your dyno making 600 at the wheels n/a with a smallblock?
imlwrthnu did I say I had one on hand at the moment? I watched/helped many get built growing up is all
@@Thumper68 typical
imlwrthnu weird same thing I was thinking of saying..
Give me some stuff to lol
Not sure about the background music during the commentary...
needs to be quieter, or just not your cup, or both, trying to get rid of some of the echo i get when im in my empty box recording voice over.
Yeah, maybe just quieter. I'm so used to just listening to you narrating that it's throwing me off I guess. LoL
Understood, noted, figured I would throw everyone for a loop
My TH400 has never puked fluid like that at any time.... dyno or track. But if it keeps doing that, look to have a burned down truck here soon.
9 months and zero fires, crazy
It was overfull
@@austindoud273 well shit, thank god you replied
I am building 1972 C10 with bed mounted twin T70/T4 .81A/R turbos and 468BBC fuel injected, air to water intercooled.
550 RWHP on how much booooooost? Matt where do get all of this time to work (at your real job) take care of little guy, build cars, tune/dyno, do burnouts and paint pretty little trees with Bob Ross paintings?
515 on 10psi
603 on 14psi
E55 99% injector on E55
603 on 14psi.....did i miss something...?
would you run it on 99% duty or would you take 1-2psi out just to be safe?
what is he running for boost management? are boost tee's common/a good idea for LS's?
Max hp out of a 78/75 billet vs racing or max boost what is their limit?
This chick in the video ruclips.net/video/B9ng0u5rDrY/видео.html WOW :D I dont mean that in a bad way either
Next time skip the decaf
I wish I wasn't so poor, I'd ls swap my s10
400$ for a 5.3L You must be dirt poor
I dont Troll you can’t even get a bare block where I live for 400$
You must not have a u pull junkyards? I can get complete motors for 150$
I'm lazy! I wanted that bitch already pulled!!
If I were wealthy I’d buy you an LS.
More like 3000-3300lb
But it ain't exactly 50/50 balanced.
My fully gutted and caged square body S10 weighed 2660 with me in it with a 5-3 a turbo 350 and a 80 mm Turbo
@@legendary_perfomance Get some!!!
My s10 weights 2,300 gutted with race seats and it would weight 1000 something with a fiberglass body kit
@@dillonplemmons9649 nice
Seems like a waste of time and money for only 600hp...
You talk too much. Lost interest.