i'm the guy that originally started the P+ project and i wanna say that your explanation of how nintendo basically ruined Project M is the most complete and accurate summary i've come across yet, at least from what i know about what happened. another thing worth mentioning would have been VGBootCamp (GimR) removing all Project M VODs from their channel in hopes of nintendo collaborations for tournaments.
@@adenmitchell7633 i didn't? i mean there's some room for discussion on who made P+ into what it is, but i certainly have a video on my channel talking about my idea for Project+ when it was still named "Project N". honest question, if it wasn't me who started the project, then who? JFyst made the post that inspired me, but he didn't take action - he only called for action.
My advice for anyone making mods for Nintendo games or Rockstar games games DO NOT ANNOUNCE THEM BEFORE THEY'RE COMPLETE, I know if you make a big mod you want to make it known they exist but when it comes to these two companies announce your mods AFTER they're finished so they have a chance to be spread around before possibly being annihilated for eternity, like AM2R
@@deadeye_johnI hope it does because it has no power over our creations and it should think twice before thinking we won’t do something about their stupid excuses for righteousness they are only making the hard work of many go all down the drain all because of their hunger for more money and heck I’m starting to say Sega is far better because they at least care for their fans unlike Nintendo who hates their fans
I find it funny how so many Pikmin fangames have been made, but barely any (Maybe none, i'm not sure) have been taken down. shows how much Nintendo cares about Pikmin.
I mean, they would if they found them, but more people talk about nice looking fan games that could compete with the real thing, than some crap knockoffs only worth playing ironically.
This is false. See The Great Giana Sisters from Time Warp Productions. While Nintendo didn't file a lawsuit, they did send a legal threat according to the composer Chris Huelsbeck. So no, the word "only" has never applied even in 1987.
Many ripoffs are often made overseas, especially in places like China, and as such it is either impossible or way too expensive for Nintendo to pursue legal action since the copyright laws of Nintendo’s home country do not apply overseas
Interesting enough, Some of the fan games are still available for download. But the one thing that really needs to stop is Nintendo's broken DMCA bot and Nintendo's DMCA team in Japan. Also, for some weird reason they haven't been taken down re-uploaded musics which leaves us to interesting theories and questions about their DMCA bot that's broken
No, Nintendo is like that one art teacher that forces you to follow the exact instructions and stops you from getting ahead to be on par with everyone else.
Nintendo, caring? If anything Nintendo is that teacher that overworks its students and shits on them for their mistakes but are the first ones that don't know how to teach their own subject.
Something I think people should keep in mind is that the copyright laws in Japan are really weird and have not been changed in a long time. The laws pretty much say that even the tiniest use of someone’s intellectual property is copyright infringement and that is must be gotten rid of. That is why you will see Japanese companies do things like this that seem completely uncalled for. I’m not saying this to condone what Nintendo has done, but to sort of see where their mindset is at.
@@bucketbutters866 Sega does the same thing. Sega of Japan shut down the fanmade Streets of Rage 4 game. All the fan endorse stuff is mostly Sega of America or whatever. Sega do the same thing as Nintendo, but only the Japanese departments because of what OP said before.
Non-fun fact: Nintendo doesn't just send cease and desist to fan games but to online tournaments, products, and even RUclips channels. They send a cease and desist to the big house after they were going to use a special mod called slippi for Melee. A person called captain Alex created special Joy-cons in tribute to Etika who is a Nintendo fan. Unfortunately, Nintendo demanded that the Etika Joy-con must no longer be sold. And then, RUclips creator SML got a cease and desist from Nintendo, telling him to stop using their Mario plushes because he uses them inappropriately.
SML is an example that Nintendo doesn’t give a flying frick about parody and fair use. Granted that channel probably would have been fine if a Karen had been more responsible of the content that her kid was consuming and not make it a news affair.
@@doctor_burnsides915 I wholeheartedly back up the argument that parents need to take responsibility for what their kids are watching. Sure Logan used Nintendo characters for his content. But it’s still a parody that a parent ultimately should take responsibility for their child stumbling upon it
Nintendo was actually right in taking these joy-cons down. Starting from this question... Why Nintendo would take down a third party themed joy-cons? Because there's a lot for sale and none was take down. The creator of the "Etikons", didn't had the rights to make these joy-cons, because the actual person passed out. Also, the creator of this custom joy-cons was trademarking and actually thinking in getting money from a thing that wasn't of his.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised that if Uranium were a modern fan game, then it's development time would be much shorter. The game started development in 2007 (since it released in 2016 after nine years), probably using Flameguru's Pokemon Starter Kit (basically Pokemon Essentials before Pokemon Essentials was a thing). The fan game community would have been massively smaller, and there wouldn't have been as many QoL features and tutorials (especially since RUclips was still pretty new at the time). Nowadays you have plenty of tutorials and public scripts for Pokemon Essentials. I think the main reason why Uranium was taken down was because it got super popular. Pokemon fan games/rom hacks ending up like Uranium and Prism is actually pretty rare.
@@KingOskar4 yeah, rom hacks are different than games.. its cause rom hacks just use an official game and add some stuff to it, changing some core mechanics, adding or removing things in said game fan games are self explanatory, games made from the ground up
One really big fan project that I remember was Pokemon Brick Bronze on Roblox. One of the biggest games on Roblox in 2015-2018. Nintendo took the game down but the developers made a new game called Loomian Legacy.
It’s unfortunate that pbb got taken down.LL is a great game but has suffered a content drought and only recently had started to show that they’re working on the game.But, who can blame them for their demotivation when they worked for pbb for years and got taken down by Nintendo
Was looking for someone to talk about PBB and LL. LL still remains as one of my favourite games of all time. I've made a bunch of fan art, plus the PVP scene is very fun. Can't wait for the Halloween Event later today! (Also, I have a PVP Green Halloween Ikazune. It might be Pure Nimble, but I couldn't care less. :D)
With AM2R I can kind of understand it as they were working on an actual remake of metroid 2 and didn't want the game to lose sales due to the fan project as they were released within a year of each other. Does it suck they took legal action? Yes. Can we do anything about? Not really since it's their IP I do hope some day we can get more fan mods without having to worry about Nintendo taking them down as some mods breathe new life into some series
@@casecyrus2500 I don't think so constantly they expanded the lore and we got metroid dread plus I don't wanna see the series die so I'm happy they made the remake and it did well if it means taking down a remake to keep the series going I'll happily take that as dread was a fantastic game and probably wouldn't have been possible if the remake didn't do too well
@@Mysticshosh42 except if other companies like sega and valve have shown fan games can exist or even be sold alongside official products so its more than possible to leave the fan game alone and still make the official game Fan games are practically free marketing to the official products so they would make the official franchises even more popular.
@@Mysticshosh42 yep they hate their own fans to the point they want to stifle them Only letting them appreciate and recreate as they choose. That's where the Nintendo garage thing came from its honestly sickening to me "you will be good little sheep or else"
This topic is so interesting to me because it shows a devide between the law and the morals of most people. A fan remake/remaster, be it of a game, movie or whatever, is copyright infringement and, in this case, Nintendo has the legal right to strike down every such project that violates their IP. But on the moral side; Do we want the games of many childhood memories be legally inaccessible except for the company that created them long ago and now doesn't give a shit about them, their history and legacy? Do we want the preservation of such things by third parties to be illegal? I don't think many people would say yes.
The Mother fan game Oddity was originally supposed to be Mother 4, before they completely changed everything about it to have nothing to do with the Mother series, in fear of getting a DMCA or a cease and desist.
Luckily, Shigesato Itoi has the rights of the Mother/Earthbound franchise which Nintendo cannot take the fan games down without his permission. So it's safe to say that Oddity and Mother Encore will be just fine (hopefully).
And this isn’t even the most insulting move that Nintendo has ever made, it’s infuriating that a company that I thought valued fun and the community now only values themselves more than anything. Their games prints money and they lose nothing if a fan game is out there, but they still take it down which makes absolutely no sense. If it ain’t monetary value, then what is it?
This is why nobody should ever announce their fangame til its done. And if they have to get more members on the project. There are better, more secretive ways.
@@0n1c420 no tf they dont there policies might br better then nintendos but companys dont have feelings and arnt your freinds. Capcom especially has done very anti-consumer things in the past even if they allow fan games that just means there smart enough to no theres really no negative to fan games. They are still only focused on money and will nearly all screw over the consumer in some ways for higher revenue
Another pokemon fan game was pokemon brick bronze on Roblox. It was very popular until it was taken down in a mass ban wave of Nintendo games on Roblox. After its deletion, It was remade and rebranded as loomian legacy, but it isn't as popular anymore.
Loomian Legacy is practically dead. Even Armenti and LuckyHD know it. Oh, nevermind. I went onto to Roblox to see how many players it has and it has 1.2k. It's been having around 500-600 recently, so that's good. Plus, it'll probably go up to 4-10k since the Halloween Event comes out later today.
12:47 About that, Mario Royale has been resurrected about a year or two ago, and the team behind it have been working on a Deluxe version of it alongside a remake of the original. While Mario Royale Deluxe is not playable just yet, Royale Remake is playable and available publicly.
@@bowldawg4394what? Mario 35 was just supposed to be like Tetris 99, with the only thing similar to Mario 35 and Mario Royale was the “battle Royale” theming
“Why do you strike us for making good Pokémon games? Because _you_ can’t?” Also, apparently one of Scarlet & Violet’s starters is going to be a grass-type cat. Wonder where they got that idea from…
Nintendo is like that one really mean and strict parent who takes everything away from you and gives you cheap food but then gives you real nice cookies and then randomly be really kind to you
There was actually a pretty big Pokémon fangame that was made entirely on Roblox, called Pokémon Brick Bronze. If I remember correctly, it included every Pokémon, rather than skipping out on over half of the previous games’ (albeit using 2D sprites), basically a Pokémon game that reflected on everything they had done prior, and the game, to the point I managed to reach awhile back, was really well made for the platform. Anyhoo it got the axe, kinda understandable, but plenty of people were, and still are mad.
Another notable one is Pokémon Prism, cause that was a ROM patch, which technically *isn't* illegal. Worst part about that is that it was taken down like, a week before the full game was scheduled to release (Except for post-game I think), which was just salt in the wound, especially since that project at that point had been worked on for... 8 years I think? :/
what we learnt from this if you're making a fangame, stay anonymous, release it to multiple websites through a chain of people and accounts, keep back-ups spread everywhere.
every time i see DMCA Royale i always think "Haha that's Infringio" _(Still have the first sprite I made for him lol, fun fact, his shirt was originally blue and most of the palette comes from a Level UP mario sprite remake haha)_ I'm *really* hoping that Nintendo turns over a new leaf when it comes to fangames, but I wouldn't say "Don't make fangames, it isn't worth it" as even though there's been takedowns I still see a bunch of fangames around. I just wanna play more Mario lol, cool video! :D
I like these new types of videos from T3rr0r, if you want to do them instead of the funnier, more satirical previous ones, than do as you want. But the more important thing is that you managed to pull it off *well* . These more informative, researched, and analytical videos actually mesh decently well with the editing, mostly because it's decently consistent. I think it'd be better to either tone down the editing for moments without jokes, or make more jokes and add more meme editing. It's a bit off, but still much better than other RUclipsrs, example L.S. Mark. He always made analytical, more serious videos, however, his editing has devolved from being professional throughout rather than using random, incoherent memes while he's talking about something he'd want to take seriously. I think it's nice you kept the GettyImages and meme sound effects which you always used, however, I just want you to make sure the editing of your videos is consistent and funny, along with lining up with what you say. Mostly just because it's kind of immersion breaking and your channel is still great. Keep up the good work, man. Excited for your new videos and I hope the editing just gets a little better.
Nintendo is marketed as a family friendly lovable company, an image that they could further enhance if only they didnt shut down fan made stuff like this.
I remember being a little baby Pixil, and my 6th grade ass emailed Nintendo asking permission to make a Zelda fangame (they didn't hesitate to crush my dreams a day later in a reply).
Sega : "People want to remake sonic and their own mod? We SEGA are ready to give advice if asked" Valve : "People want to make their own halo game? Sure go for it we VALUE even give some asset and source to make it happen" Nintendo : "what!? Is that fat plumber italian guy in your video game?! Shut it down imediatly or suffer the LAW"
Kodaka: people want to make their own danganronpa sure we love to see a unique cast of characters (or a rewrite of a canon story) and a immersive story(not looking at you hdrh20aah) of a killing game
I'm very surprised that Nintendo didn't nuke Mother 3's fan translation despite being aware or atleast knowledge it's existence like they did it on purpose, hhhhhhmmmmm... Speaking of Mother 3, there was a fangame of Mother 4 but they made it something original instead and changed the title to "Oddity", because they're afraid if Nintendo nukes them just like AM2R fangame but some similarities are still there like the graphics and PSI powers just renaming it "ESP". Too bad it's not released yet, just the trailer.
Honestly surprised you didn't mention Slippi during the Melee segment, though it's still being played without an official DMCA/C&D. But it's still a good video
I don't know when it will ever be topical again so I'll say it here. I really wish the start screen message "PM dead for this" in DDLC appeared when my friend played it blind with me because he would of laughed his ass off. He was fully aware if the creator's relation to PM.
Nintendo: "I do this for reason, one of them is to show examples that children should know that stealing is bad." Random child: "Nintendo, bring back the fan-made project you took down early." Nintendo: "don't worry, child. Wanna have some coupons for Nintendo Switch Online?" Child: "I don't want any of your filthy coupons, just make the community happy." Nintendo: "何?(Nani?)
Nintendo is currently the "Apple" of consoles. I can prove it in six points. As these traits overlap with Apple as well. 1) "Unique" quirky design philosophy to the detriment of performance or usability (Drift drift drift, hardware lagging behind on an ancient NVIDIA tablet GPU due to their insistence on the form factor. Took two revisions to make a stand that wasn't total garbage.) And when called out on it? Gaslight the consumer! Joycon drift isn't real! Ignore those class actions! Also you have phones don't you? Don't you know VOIP on the same console you're playing the game on is hard?! WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE PSP DID IT A DECADE PRIOR?! 2) Almost intentionally spiteful consumer relations (Each E-shop being it's own walled garden that doesn't carry over to the next series of consoles and handhelds fundamentally stripping you of what you paid for and saying "Buy it again" without actually offering it again. Complete ignoring of consumer desire or requests.) 3) Nothing drops in price, ever. Because dropping prices would "Damage" your perceived value. IE: Any first or second party game will be full retail price until the heat death of the universe on store shelves. Switch still full price despite the fact every single part on it is just about a legacy bulk buy holdover component by now. 4) Overbearingly Litigious, Sue detractors, sue fans, sue people who work with you, sue people who work against you, sue everyone! Also write up some more bizarre draconian TOS while we're at it! 5) False perception of an underdog despite being one of the most profitable in the market. 6) Fingers in too many pies, when you're already doing too little to address and support your core market and first party hardware and software. (Themeparks! Movies! Lego sets! Smartphone games! Labo in schools! )
the selling merch thing is completely understandable to strike down, since that’s making money off of THEIR copyright, however the mods and fan games being struck down is stupid. the whole striking down stuff like this is to protect their assets, since not protecting it enough can it get taken away legally. even then, they’re doing way too much. sega is a prime example of what’s best for the fans, letting them run wild, even if sonic has been rather lackluster in the games department the past few years.
Honestly I hope Nintendo don't sue Luigibonus for this. He made Super Mario Construct and Yoshi's Fabrication Station and they are both amazing Super Mario Maker 2 inspired fangames. He also has a Discord server and I am one of the members.
project m was made by dan salvato, the creator of ddlc, after act 1, you can get a random message after the title screen, one of them being "pm died for this". and guess what? it's in the switch version of ddlc+! the irony is real
@@indoraptorgamer650 they do ask if you dont want to see it and even give you a "enable content warnings" option, from the start I feel like the switch is just a small indie game console. To prove it, just go onto the eshop. Tons of indie games like firewatch and of course ddlc, I feel like Nintendo doesn't really care about what they have on switch as they dont really care about the console and are too busy working on "other things".
If I was a game developer/had a game company would I would be completely fine with fan games if: - the game it is based on an old game that isn't sold since years (I wouldn't be against piracy of the original games that I haven't sold since years to be begin with) - the game is for free (donations are ok)
Right, so the only fan project I can understand them for striking down is AM2R. Now, I've 100%ed every 2-D Metroid game and am a huge fan of the series, so ofc I played AM2R instead of the original Metroid 2. The reason why I totally understand them striking it down is because it just so happened that AM2R was releasing just as Nintendo was finishing their excellent remake of Metroid 2. Metroid: Return of Samus. So, in this one instance, it was very likely that AM2R could affect the sales of Return of Samus. I mean, I never bought Return of Samus because AM2R existed, so there was no reason to buy it. All the other fan projects though? Bizarre. I can't tell if it's a uniquely Nintendo thing because of scars left over from every time they've lent out their IPs in the past, or if it's something to do with Japan's toxic work culture.
I’m sorry sir my name is Barry b. Benson aka Nintendo‘s lawyer and I would just like to tell you that Nintendo would like for you to take this video down within the next three weeks or else we may have to take legal action due to the fact that Nintendo does not like the way you have use their characters thank you for your cooperation
Valve: oh you modded one of our games that’s so cool let’s put it on the steam store and help get you recognized Nintendo: you modded one of our games oh here’s what you owe us in lost sales we’ll be taking down your game and we’re suing you
A few months back, Nintendo DMCA'd the Metroid Prime 2D fangame as well. They had released a demo of the game and my god it looked BEAUTIFUL. I don't know if it's still being developed in the shadows but damn it's sad that Nintendo does not like to support fangames when they in most case would not get financially hurt. Who knows when they will be like Sega and see that people actually do this because they love their franchises and make fangames out of that love.
I’m a fan modder, myself. There’s a lot of things to consider with these projects that Nintendo would go out of their way to silence them. Yes, it’s not a great outlook for Nintendo to be taking legal action against these projects, but these particular fan games do step into a gray area where Nintendo can inject legal action. Nearly most fan mods for Nintendo games usually will go under the radar due the way they are often distributed. Most fan games will be released as a patch of custom assets and modified files which are then applied to your obtained copy of the company’s owned game. In layman’s terms, it’s like placing a piece of paper with custom code over the original to trick it to behave differently. Think of Mrs. Pac-Man almost as a fanmod of the original Pac-Man. As long as money is not involved, usually, fan mods themselves will not be targeted with cease and desists. This is probably the actual reason why Project M and Project + have been targeted, since the cash prize distribution during tournaments are considered monetary transactions. Technically speaking, a provider or consumer is making monetary payments for Nintendo’s property to be played without their consent in conjunction with a created patch modification, which is what makes it cross into the gray area where a legal intervention can ultimately end up falling on either side depending on the argument made. A cease in desist would be the safest surefire call of action on Nintendo’s behalf. They don’t win, but they don’t lose. They protect their property from having an opposing threat in their eyes, and move on. Fan mods still may not be completely immune to takedown. That may depend on the IP holder and their own tolerance for mods for their work. The Pokémon Company for example is technically not owned by Nintendo. Nintendo only owns a rather significant amount of stock within the company itself. I’d imagine that The Pokémon Company could very likely still attempt to take down an ambitious fan mod if they really viewed it as a threat to them. They seem very monopolistic and resentful of any direct competition, and it sounds like they have enough money stashed up to afford to lose a case or two if it backfires. I’d probably stay a safe distance away from having a Pokémon mod announcement go wide spread on the internet, myself. Now, fan games on the other hand are what causes Nintendo’s cease and desist ninjas to go on a killing spree. Unlike fan mods, these are projects that are completely built from the ground up utilizing Nintendo’s IP, which is where the line is crossed. Fan mods work because they are distributed as a modification that is applied over Nintendo’s Property; however, a distributed fan game is still a video game that needs to be followed in conjunction with copyright law, and legal action can be made against them if infringement is an issue. Cease and desists are at least only a slap on the wrist compared being outright sued for damages. This is why these projects in the video tend to be targeted. I can still recommend fan modding if you are interested in delving into it, since your work will usually not be at an immediate risk. It is still a nice learning experience of working within the confines of a game you are interested in, and the reality is that the groundwork for the game itself is already operational (Hopefully, anyways) so it saves a lot of the work needed to have a playable result of your own modifications. Just keep money out of the picture, outside of perhaps an optional donation site if you can justify having one, and you should be fine. But, if you are going through all of the work to make a fan game, then by all means, I encourage you to go the extra step and make it inspired, but kept original. Trust me, that’s some serious effort you really don’t want to go to waste by getting cease and desisted, and is a time investment that you could even make some money off of later down the road. - Noah
There was one banger fan game that was unfortunately never mentioned here: a Roblox made little number called, Pokemon - Brick Bronze. A nearly finished masterpiece that was struck down in it's prime and had potential like no other fangame that I have observed, so sad...
I understand that those are their characters and everything but some fan projects don't even gain a dollar they make it from love for the franchise or nintendo itself, iam 100% with closing fan projects that cost money. cause they gain money from a character that isn't there's. But fan projects that just for fun? I don't know why they do that
Its sad how Nintendo has stopped some of the best fan projects from being finished
Well it's Nintendo still be thankful bcuz they weren't gonna send their assassins
Sad
How did mario with a gun did not get dmca
@@mylainelefebvre815 it’s too good to get one
yeah it is
Fans: "we love your games, let us show you how much we love them"
Nintendo: "eww"
then the fans are not fans anymore
@@diegoalonso9334tf💀
@@diegoalonso9334Sega: Proceeds to pay terrorists to kill people who make fan projects
@@starentertainment-n4l Excuse me?
@@milkgo4d541 that’s code for the lawyers who are more powerful than any lawyer in the world tanking down projects silently w/o fail.
I remember "Super Mario 64 HD" the fan-game that blown the entire internet away, it is actually unfair for it to be gone this way
You can still access it in some sites but the easiest way is flashpoint
@@flaredoesthing Thank you a lot because I do have Flashpoint and I did not knew the game was there
I mean the level design was the same and even if you don't like it they have the right to do what ever they want with there ip.
@@NojoNortu no problem 😁
Btw you should check out Super Mario 64 HD remake continued its basically Mario 64 HD with a little bit more content and it didnt get DMCA'D yet
i'm the guy that originally started the P+ project and i wanna say that your explanation of how nintendo basically ruined Project M is the most complete and accurate summary i've come across yet, at least from what i know about what happened. another thing worth mentioning would have been VGBootCamp (GimR) removing all Project M VODs from their channel in hopes of nintendo collaborations for tournaments.
You didn't start the P+ project
@@adenmitchell7633 i didn't? i mean there's some room for discussion on who made P+ into what it is, but i certainly have a video on my channel talking about my idea for Project+ when it was still named "Project N". honest question, if it wasn't me who started the project, then who? JFyst made the post that inspired me, but he didn't take action - he only called for action.
@@FunctionGermany called his ass out haha
@@FunctionGermany just make sure to stay off the hook
Hi
My advice for anyone making mods for Nintendo games or Rockstar games games DO NOT ANNOUNCE THEM BEFORE THEY'RE COMPLETE, I know if you make a big mod you want to make it known they exist but when it comes to these two companies announce your mods AFTER they're finished so they have a chance to be spread around before possibly being annihilated for eternity, like AM2R
Nintendo will see this trend
@@deadeye_johnI hope it does because it has no power over our creations and it should think twice before thinking we won’t do something about their stupid excuses for righteousness they are only making the hard work of many go all down the drain all because of their hunger for more money and heck I’m starting to say Sega is far better because they at least care for their fans unlike Nintendo who hates their fans
@@WIMouse No. Nintendo will see this trend and work hard to kill it because Japanese copyright law works differently
Nintendo taking down these awesome fan-made projects really shows how they care about themselves than others
Basically selfish
It’s their products and characters
SEGA will always be superior
It shows how much they care about their consumers.
Did these people care about how nintendo and it's game developers would feel when they made these projects?
I find it funny how so many Pikmin fangames have been made, but barely any (Maybe none, i'm not sure) have been taken down. shows how much Nintendo cares about Pikmin.
Either they were to focused on Pikmin 4 orrrrr they just don’t care about the franchise anymore
Nintendo will nuke some of them randomly when pikmin 4 comes out if I had to guess.
:(
Edit: On the bright side, :)
Well let’s hope Nintendo doesn’t discover most of the pikmin fan projects.
they probably just think that nobody cares about pikmin.
It's strange how nintendo only take down fan projects instead of rip-off games
Edit: the hell, i just got under 450 likes
I mean, they would if they found them, but more people talk about nice looking fan games that could compete with the real thing, than some crap knockoffs only worth playing ironically.
It's about competition. If the fan projects are all shit, people will turn to the first-party stuff.
This is false. See The Great Giana Sisters from Time Warp Productions.
While Nintendo didn't file a lawsuit, they did send a legal threat according to the composer Chris Huelsbeck.
So no, the word "only" has never applied even in 1987.
@ihatelaptops2 or if you use Wario who we actually don’t care about or give a fuck about him or Waluigi -also Nintendo probably
Many ripoffs are often made overseas, especially in places like China, and as such it is either impossible or way too expensive for Nintendo to pursue legal action since the copyright laws of Nintendo’s home country do not apply overseas
Interesting enough, Some of the fan games are still available for download. But the one thing that really needs to stop is Nintendo's broken DMCA bot and Nintendo's DMCA team in Japan. Also, for some weird reason they haven't been taken down re-uploaded musics which leaves us to interesting theories and questions about their DMCA bot that's broken
Remember: if a new Nintendo Fangame releases keep the game in a Safe place in your files so you can reupload the game and it wont be lost forever
Will do, Mr. Miller!
Ok, William!
Can it be stored in the breadbear suit dave
@@undertalemodtool I guess.
OMG true all this fangames now are lost media
Nintendo is like that one caring teacher that becomes strict over the slightest mistake.
No, Nintendo is like that one art teacher that forces you to follow the exact instructions and stops you from getting ahead to be on par with everyone else.
Caring? If they cared about the fan base they would’ve allowed fan games
Nice pfp
Nintendo, caring? If anything Nintendo is that teacher that overworks its students and shits on them for their mistakes but are the first ones that don't know how to teach their own subject.
@@lukcdk thanks bro
Something I think people should keep in mind is that the copyright laws in Japan are really weird and have not been changed in a long time. The laws pretty much say that even the tiniest use of someone’s intellectual property is copyright infringement and that is must be gotten rid of. That is why you will see Japanese companies do things like this that seem completely uncalled for. I’m not saying this to condone what Nintendo has done, but to sort of see where their mindset is at.
Then what about Sega?
so thats why nintendo is so stuck in the past,in terms of copyright,doesnt explain why sega is so lenient though,since they also are from japan.
@@bucketbutters866 Gotta make up for mainline games sucking up (until now)
@@bucketbutters866 Sega does the same thing. Sega of Japan shut down the fanmade Streets of Rage 4 game. All the fan endorse stuff is mostly Sega of America or whatever. Sega do the same thing as Nintendo, but only the Japanese departments because of what OP said before.
@@MustacheOnMars9 ok
Non-fun fact: Nintendo doesn't just send cease and desist to fan games but to online tournaments, products, and even RUclips channels. They send a cease and desist to the big house after they were going to use a special mod called slippi for Melee. A person called captain Alex created special Joy-cons in tribute to Etika who is a Nintendo fan. Unfortunately, Nintendo demanded that the Etika Joy-con must no longer be sold. And then, RUclips creator SML got a cease and desist from Nintendo, telling him to stop using their Mario plushes because he uses them inappropriately.
The Etika Joy-Con is understandable IMO
SML is an example that Nintendo doesn’t give a flying frick about parody and fair use. Granted that channel probably would have been fine if a Karen had been more responsible of the content that her kid was consuming and not make it a news affair.
@@doctor_burnsides915 I wholeheartedly back up the argument that parents need to take responsibility for what their kids are watching. Sure Logan used Nintendo characters for his content. But it’s still a parody that a parent ultimately should take responsibility for their child stumbling upon it
Nintendo was actually right in taking these joy-cons down. Starting from this question... Why Nintendo would take down a third party themed joy-cons? Because there's a lot for sale and none was take down.
The creator of the "Etikons", didn't had the rights to make these joy-cons, because the actual person passed out. Also, the creator of this custom joy-cons was trademarking and actually thinking in getting money from a thing that wasn't of his.
@@gabeznl3591 the whole reason they made the Etikons was because Etika killed himself. It was legally ok to sue them, but EXTREMELY morally wrong.
2:22 but it had the subspace emissary,and that’s the greatest story mode ever
Completely redeemed the game
Subspace was shit
@@BigM5304 Hey, yoy wrote that wrong. "Subspace was *the* shit" is what I believe you were trying to say
Wait until he sees halo 3 and 2
it had jason adkins ike. thats all it needed
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised that if Uranium were a modern fan game, then it's development time would be much shorter. The game started development in 2007 (since it released in 2016 after nine years), probably using Flameguru's Pokemon Starter Kit (basically Pokemon Essentials before Pokemon Essentials was a thing). The fan game community would have been massively smaller, and there wouldn't have been as many QoL features and tutorials (especially since RUclips was still pretty new at the time). Nowadays you have plenty of tutorials and public scripts for Pokemon Essentials.
I think the main reason why Uranium was taken down was because it got super popular. Pokemon fan games/rom hacks ending up like Uranium and Prism is actually pretty rare.
Rom hacks are different, yes? I am playing Renegade Platinum but on a NDS emulator. Rom hacks just change code of existing games?
I actually have that pokemon fangame
@@KingOskar4 yeah, rom hacks are different than games.. its cause rom hacks just use an official game and add some stuff to it, changing some core mechanics, adding or removing things in said game
fan games are self explanatory, games made from the ground up
One really big fan project that I remember was Pokemon Brick Bronze on Roblox. One of the biggest games on Roblox in 2015-2018. Nintendo took the game down but the developers made a new game called Loomian Legacy.
It’s unfortunate that pbb got taken down.LL is a great game but has suffered a content drought and only recently had started to show that they’re working on the game.But, who can blame them for their demotivation when they worked for pbb for years and got taken down by Nintendo
To be fair they were making actual money off of the game so I don’t blame Nintendo in that specific instance
@@loona2n It’s crazy seeing a multi-billionaire company go insane over losing like
a couple grand, they should’ve gotten the rights to that game
@@loona2n they even required you to buy xp share.
Was looking for someone to talk about PBB and LL.
LL still remains as one of my favourite games of all time. I've made a bunch of fan art, plus the PVP scene is very fun. Can't wait for the Halloween Event later today!
(Also, I have a PVP Green Halloween Ikazune. It might be Pure Nimble, but I couldn't care less. :D)
This channel has improved so much still doesn’t regret subscribing to this channel
With AM2R I can kind of understand it as they were working on an actual remake of metroid 2 and didn't want the game to lose sales due to the fan project as they were released within a year of each other. Does it suck they took legal action? Yes. Can we do anything about? Not really since it's their IP I do hope some day we can get more fan mods without having to worry about Nintendo taking them down as some mods breathe new life into some series
Actually i think they made their own remake of metriod 2 to fuck with the people who made the fanmade version
@@casecyrus2500 I don't think so constantly they expanded the lore and we got metroid dread plus I don't wanna see the series die so I'm happy they made the remake and it did well if it means taking down a remake to keep the series going I'll happily take that as dread was a fantastic game and probably wouldn't have been possible if the remake didn't do too well
@@Mysticshosh42 except if other companies like sega and valve have shown fan games can exist or even be sold alongside official products so its more than possible to leave the fan game alone and still make the official game
Fan games are practically free marketing to the official products so they would make the official franchises even more popular.
@@Goldfire345 then you remember this is Nintendo and they'd rather take down fan projects rather than endorse
@@Mysticshosh42 yep they hate their own fans to the point they want to stifle them
Only letting them appreciate and recreate as they choose. That's where the Nintendo garage thing came from its honestly sickening to me
"you will be good little sheep or else"
This topic is so interesting to me because it shows a devide between the law and the morals of most people. A fan remake/remaster, be it of a game, movie or whatever, is copyright infringement and, in this case, Nintendo has the legal right to strike down every such project that violates their IP.
But on the moral side; Do we want the games of many childhood memories be legally inaccessible except for the company that created them long ago and now doesn't give a shit about them, their history and legacy? Do we want the preservation of such things by third parties to be illegal? I don't think many people would say yes.
The Mother fan game Oddity was originally supposed to be Mother 4, before they completely changed everything about it to have nothing to do with the Mother series, in fear of getting a DMCA or a cease and desist.
Luckily they made the right call.
Luckily, Shigesato Itoi has the rights of the Mother/Earthbound franchise which Nintendo cannot take the fan games down without his permission. So it's safe to say that Oddity and Mother Encore will be just fine (hopefully).
And this isn’t even the most insulting move that Nintendo has ever made, it’s infuriating that a company that I thought valued fun and the community now only values themselves more than anything. Their games prints money and they lose nothing if a fan game is out there, but they still take it down which makes absolutely no sense. If it ain’t monetary value, then what is it?
Imagine if nintendo literally hired someone to take down fan games
they do they have lawyers
This is why nobody should ever announce their fangame til its done.
And if they have to get more members on the project. There are better, more secretive ways.
Unlike Nintendo, Sega and Capcom actually care about their fans.
This mostly only aplies for nintendo games lol other companies arnt nearly as insane
@@0n1c420 no tf they dont there policies might br better then nintendos but companys dont have feelings and arnt your freinds. Capcom especially has done very anti-consumer things in the past even if they allow fan games that just means there smart enough to no theres really no negative to fan games. They are still only focused on money and will nearly all screw over the consumer in some ways for higher revenue
@@turokokokoko9714 What is your opinion on Valve?
@@gordon_freeman2542 Very mixed. Years of extreme pro-consumer practices, while years just as long of horrible, anti-consumer practices.
You know what they says you either love your fan games, or you’re Nintendo
T3rr0r your videos are really good and I'm really liking them so far and I hope you don't go insane
Jokes On Nintendo
They Forgot The Ol' Saying
What Goes On The Internet
STAYS On The Internet.
Another pokemon fan game was pokemon brick bronze on Roblox. It was very popular until it was taken down in a mass ban wave of Nintendo games on Roblox. After its deletion, It was remade and rebranded as loomian legacy, but it isn't as popular anymore.
Loomian Legacy is practically dead. Even Armenti and LuckyHD know it.
Oh, nevermind. I went onto to Roblox to see how many players it has and it has 1.2k. It's been having around 500-600 recently, so that's good.
Plus, it'll probably go up to 4-10k since the Halloween Event comes out later today.
@@mizuukiiiii Pokemon brick bronze was literally illegal.
@@davisvoelzke8011 I know.
Rip To These Fangames :(
i mean theyre not even gone you can still play them
This really shows how sega and Scott care about their fans
SEGA is on the other extreme, were they care so little about their franchises that they let fans do the work for them
I will forever stand that Scott is the best game dev to ever exist, and not just in game making
I guess Sega Does what NintenDon't
12:47 About that, Mario Royale has been resurrected about a year or two ago, and the team behind it have been working on a Deluxe version of it alongside a remake of the original. While Mario Royale Deluxe is not playable just yet, Royale Remake is playable and available publicly.
WAIT WHAT ITS MY FAVOURITE WEB GAME
@@Emirix1 Mroyale is what you need to be searching for if you were planning to play it.
I love Nintendo and all I just wish they’d let people make fan games
I feel like Nintendo is shutting down these fan projects because Nintendo wants the ideas for themself
Literally what happened with the mario royale game 💀
@@bowldawg4394what? Mario 35 was just supposed to be like Tetris 99, with the only thing similar to Mario 35 and Mario Royale was the “battle Royale” theming
“Why do you strike us for making good Pokémon games? Because _you_ can’t?”
Also, apparently one of Scarlet & Violet’s starters is going to be a grass-type cat. Wonder where they got that idea from…
Nintendo is like that one really mean and strict parent who takes everything away from you and gives you cheap food but then gives you real nice cookies and then randomly be really kind to you
randomly be kind? lmao
Maybe not kind but gives you amazing stuff
i love how mario royale rebranded into dmca royale lmfao
There was actually a pretty big Pokémon fangame that was made entirely on Roblox, called Pokémon Brick Bronze. If I remember correctly, it included every Pokémon, rather than skipping out on over half of the previous games’ (albeit using 2D sprites), basically a Pokémon game that reflected on everything they had done prior, and the game, to the point I managed to reach awhile back, was really well made for the platform. Anyhoo it got the axe, kinda understandable, but plenty of people were, and still are mad.
Another notable one is Pokémon Prism, cause that was a ROM patch, which technically *isn't* illegal. Worst part about that is that it was taken down like, a week before the full game was scheduled to release (Except for post-game I think), which was just salt in the wound, especially since that project at that point had been worked on for... 8 years I think? :/
Hi T3rr0r, thank you for feeding us more videos.
imagine owning and controlling your own planet using a computer
Imagine not
That seems like a good concept
what we learnt from this
if you're making a fangame, stay anonymous, release it to multiple websites through a chain of people and accounts, keep back-ups spread everywhere.
every time i see DMCA Royale i always think "Haha that's Infringio" _(Still have the first sprite I made for him lol, fun fact, his shirt was originally blue and most of the palette comes from a Level UP mario sprite remake haha)_
I'm *really* hoping that Nintendo turns over a new leaf when it comes to fangames, but I wouldn't say "Don't make fangames, it isn't worth it" as even though there's been takedowns I still see a bunch of fangames around. I just wanna play more Mario lol, cool video! :D
I like these new types of videos from T3rr0r, if you want to do them instead of the funnier, more satirical previous ones, than do as you want.
But the more important thing is that you managed to pull it off *well* . These more informative, researched, and analytical videos actually mesh decently well with the editing, mostly because it's decently consistent. I think it'd be better to either tone down the editing for moments without jokes, or make more jokes and add more meme editing. It's a bit off, but still much better than other RUclipsrs, example L.S. Mark. He always made analytical, more serious videos, however, his editing has devolved from being professional throughout rather than using random, incoherent memes while he's talking about something he'd want to take seriously. I think it's nice you kept the GettyImages and meme sound effects which you always used, however, I just want you to make sure the editing of your videos is consistent and funny, along with lining up with what you say. Mostly just because it's kind of immersion breaking and your channel is still great.
Keep up the good work, man. Excited for your new videos and I hope the editing just gets a little better.
Nintendo is marketed as a family friendly lovable company, an image that they could further enhance if only they didnt shut down fan made stuff like this.
Nope.
@@sigvif wdym nope
Nintendo sucks as a company and i wish they regretted those actions
L Nintendo W Sega
Sega does what Nintendont
Thanks T3rr0r for making some quality content
ah nintendo, the company that literally uses their fans like fleshlights
The solution: Dont make a nintendo fangame. Make a sega one.
Smg4 is risking his entire channel with a fake nintendo lawsuit
the redesign man
It feels like they only take down these fangames not to lose any money, but to remove competition similar to what happened to Mario Royale and AM2R.
I remember being a little baby Pixil, and my 6th grade ass emailed Nintendo asking permission to make a Zelda fangame (they didn't hesitate to crush my dreams a day later in a reply).
And that’s why I’m more of a sonic fan and a fnaf fan then a Nintendo fan
@@elliotsturtplus340 HAH.
Understandable tbh
That truly is the only thing that sega does but nintendon't today, allow fangames
Sega : "People want to remake sonic and their own mod? We SEGA are ready to give advice if asked"
Valve : "People want to make their own halo game? Sure go for it we VALUE even give some asset and source to make it happen"
Nintendo : "what!? Is that fat plumber italian guy in your video game?! Shut it down imediatly or suffer the LAW"
Kodaka: people want to make their own danganronpa sure we love to see a unique cast of characters (or a rewrite of a canon story) and a immersive story(not looking at you hdrh20aah) of a killing game
I'm very surprised that Nintendo didn't nuke Mother 3's fan translation despite being aware or atleast knowledge it's existence like they did it on purpose, hhhhhhmmmmm... Speaking of Mother 3, there was a fangame of Mother 4 but they made it something original instead and changed the title to "Oddity", because they're afraid if Nintendo nukes them just like AM2R fangame but some similarities are still there like the graphics and PSI powers just renaming it "ESP". Too bad it's not released yet, just the trailer.
Just a reminder. How many bad and cruel a videogame company is... Not really cruel as EA and always remember that.
They are nowhere near Disney.
This is likely why Mario Multiverse is still in it's closed beta status.
Also, one of the devs of Project M (Dan Salvato) Also made Doki Doki Literature Club
I mean technically Mario V Luigi Online is still available. Is not the exact Battle Royale experience but it's still pretty fun.
NITENDO when somene they seen a fangame: L+ ratio DIDNT ask dont care
Like dam even Sega allowed people to make fan games
Sega: I love your fan game it really shows your love toward us
Nintendo: BURN IT BURN IT GET THE ASHES AND THROW IN THE OCEAN…. See you in court.
Hmmm what's is it? Oh yeah, it's time to say...
SEGA DOES WHAT NINTENDON’T
Nintendo is like the Krusty Krab. Even though the company has a greedy CEO, we're never hesitant to give him our money regardless of what he does.
Honestly surprised you didn't mention Slippi during the Melee segment, though it's still being played without an official DMCA/C&D. But it's still a good video
Nintendo, how could you?! How could you do this to us?!
Super mario bros X hurts the most... It was perfect
As I always say: Sega does what Nintendon't: Allow you to make games inspired by their source material, and allow you to listen to their music.
Ironic how this came out at the end of the smg4 lawsuit arc
I don't know when it will ever be topical again so I'll say it here.
I really wish the start screen message "PM dead for this" in DDLC appeared when my friend played it blind with me because he would of laughed his ass off. He was fully aware if the creator's relation to PM.
It's true that
"Sega does what Nintendon't"
Nintendo: "I do this for reason, one of them is to show examples that children should know that stealing is bad."
Random child: "Nintendo, bring back the fan-made project you took down early."
Nintendo: "don't worry, child. Wanna have some coupons for Nintendo Switch Online?"
Child: "I don't want any of your filthy coupons, just make the community happy."
Nintendo: "何?(Nani?)
T3rr0r can you please review Plauge Inc and why it is banned in some countries?
Nintendo is currently the "Apple" of consoles. I can prove it in six points. As these traits overlap with Apple as well.
1) "Unique" quirky design philosophy to the detriment of performance or usability (Drift drift drift, hardware lagging behind on an ancient NVIDIA tablet GPU due to their insistence on the form factor. Took two revisions to make a stand that wasn't total garbage.) And when called out on it? Gaslight the consumer! Joycon drift isn't real! Ignore those class actions! Also you have phones don't you? Don't you know VOIP on the same console you're playing the game on is hard?! WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE PSP DID IT A DECADE PRIOR?!
2) Almost intentionally spiteful consumer relations (Each E-shop being it's own walled garden that doesn't carry over to the next series of consoles and handhelds fundamentally stripping you of what you paid for and saying "Buy it again" without actually offering it again. Complete ignoring of consumer desire or requests.)
3) Nothing drops in price, ever. Because dropping prices would "Damage" your perceived value. IE: Any first or second party game will be full retail price until the heat death of the universe on store shelves. Switch still full price despite the fact every single part on it is just about a legacy bulk buy holdover component by now.
4) Overbearingly Litigious, Sue detractors, sue fans, sue people who work with you, sue people who work against you, sue everyone! Also write up some more bizarre draconian TOS while we're at it!
5) False perception of an underdog despite being one of the most profitable in the market.
6) Fingers in too many pies, when you're already doing too little to address and support your core market and first party hardware and software. (Themeparks! Movies! Lego sets! Smartphone games! Labo in schools! )
They also the "Disney" of video games.
this is to the point where if you randomize your pokemon game the pokemon company will not work with you.
I'm just two minutes in as of writing this comment, but damn this needs more attention. The editing and jokes are on point!
The take down on the updated dmca royal was total bs. Pretty sure at that point, it did not infringe anything, nintendo just wanted to be petty.
Some fan: *re-creates/moded mario or sell merch out of it*
Nintendo:So you've chosen D E A T H
Damn, you...
@@YoOnly1Live Goofy ahh YOLO
the selling merch thing is completely understandable to strike down, since that’s making money off of THEIR copyright, however the mods and fan games being struck down is stupid. the whole striking down stuff like this is to protect their assets, since not protecting it enough can it get taken away legally. even then, they’re doing way too much. sega is a prime example of what’s best for the fans, letting them run wild, even if sonic has been rather lackluster in the games department the past few years.
Project m is a mod, which are legal in the usa if you own your own iso/rom.
Honestly I hope Nintendo don't sue Luigibonus for this. He made Super Mario Construct and Yoshi's Fabrication Station and they are both amazing Super Mario Maker 2 inspired fangames. He also has a Discord server and I am one of the members.
How Pokémon Showdown is still around baffles me
Wimpy Nintendo casually the one who deleted fan projects, meanwhile Chad Sega allowed fan project workers to help make actual games
Sega does, what nintendon’t.
@@enderjed2523 THATS WHAT IM SAYING
I’m afraid NOTHING can be done to stop it and well we just have to accept it regardless if we like it or not.
project m was made by dan salvato, the creator of ddlc, after act 1, you can get a random message after the title screen, one of them being "pm died for this".
and guess what? it's in the switch version of ddlc+! the irony is real
He was only one of PM's devs.
Welp I never thought that Nintendo would allow a game about suicide to be on the switch
He was a dev, not the creator. Don't spread misinformation.
He was a dev, not the creator. Don't spread misinformation.
@@indoraptorgamer650 they do ask if you dont want to see it and even give you a "enable content warnings" option, from the start I feel like the switch is just a small indie game console. To prove it, just go onto the eshop. Tons of indie games like firewatch and of course ddlc, I feel like Nintendo doesn't really care about what they have on switch as they dont really care about the console and are too busy working on "other things".
Yes delete the good ones and leave the bad ones
If I was a game developer/had a game company would I would be completely fine with fan games if:
- the game it is based on an old game that isn't sold since years (I wouldn't be against piracy of the original games that I haven't sold since years to be begin with)
- the game is for free (donations are ok)
Every vidoe just keeps better,and you are faster at making them,thank you
Nintendo: YOU INSULTED OUR FRANCHISES WITH FAN-GAMES!!!
Sega: great fan-game, keep it up, show them how much you love our franchises
Right, so the only fan project I can understand them for striking down is AM2R. Now, I've 100%ed every 2-D Metroid game and am a huge fan of the series, so ofc I played AM2R instead of the original Metroid 2.
The reason why I totally understand them striking it down is because it just so happened that AM2R was releasing just as Nintendo was finishing their excellent remake of Metroid 2. Metroid: Return of Samus. So, in this one instance, it was very likely that AM2R could affect the sales of Return of Samus. I mean, I never bought Return of Samus because AM2R existed, so there was no reason to buy it.
All the other fan projects though? Bizarre. I can't tell if it's a uniquely Nintendo thing because of scars left over from every time they've lent out their IPs in the past, or if it's something to do with Japan's toxic work culture.
PM is somewhat understandable, when you think about it, there is money involved. The cash prize.
I’m sorry sir my name is Barry b. Benson aka Nintendo‘s lawyer and I would just like to tell you that Nintendo would like for you to take this video down within the next three weeks or else we may have to take legal action due to the fact that Nintendo does not like the way you have use their characters thank you for your cooperation
nintendo when they see a red m on a hat: give us one million
Valve: oh you modded one of our games that’s so cool let’s put it on the steam store and help get you recognized
Nintendo: you modded one of our games oh here’s what you owe us in lost sales we’ll be taking down your game and we’re suing you
A few months back, Nintendo DMCA'd the Metroid Prime 2D fangame as well. They had released a demo of the game and my god it looked BEAUTIFUL. I don't know if it's still being developed in the shadows but damn it's sad that Nintendo does not like to support fangames when they in most case would not get financially hurt. Who knows when they will be like Sega and see that people actually do this because they love their franchises and make fangames out of that love.
I still remember roblox Pokémon brick bronze lol rip
I’m a fan modder, myself. There’s a lot of things to consider with these projects that Nintendo would go out of their way to silence them. Yes, it’s not a great outlook for Nintendo to be taking legal action against these projects, but these particular fan games do step into a gray area where Nintendo can inject legal action.
Nearly most fan mods for Nintendo games usually will go under the radar due the way they are often distributed. Most fan games will be released as a patch of custom assets and modified files which are then applied to your obtained copy of the company’s owned game. In layman’s terms, it’s like placing a piece of paper with custom code over the original to trick it to behave differently. Think of Mrs. Pac-Man almost as a fanmod of the original Pac-Man.
As long as money is not involved, usually, fan mods themselves will not be targeted with cease and desists. This is probably the actual reason why Project M and Project + have been targeted, since the cash prize distribution during tournaments are considered monetary transactions. Technically speaking, a provider or consumer is making monetary payments for Nintendo’s property to be played without their consent in conjunction with a created patch modification, which is what makes it cross into the gray area where a legal intervention can ultimately end up falling on either side depending on the argument made. A cease in desist would be the safest surefire call of action on Nintendo’s behalf. They don’t win, but they don’t lose. They protect their property from having an opposing threat in their eyes, and move on.
Fan mods still may not be completely immune to takedown. That may depend on the IP holder and their own tolerance for mods for their work. The Pokémon Company for example is technically not owned by Nintendo. Nintendo only owns a rather significant amount of stock within the company itself. I’d imagine that The Pokémon Company could very likely still attempt to take down an ambitious fan mod if they really viewed it as a threat to them. They seem very monopolistic and resentful of any direct competition, and it sounds like they have enough money stashed up to afford to lose a case or two if it backfires. I’d probably stay a safe distance away from having a Pokémon mod announcement go wide spread on the internet, myself.
Now, fan games on the other hand are what causes Nintendo’s cease and desist ninjas to go on a killing spree. Unlike fan mods, these are projects that are completely built from the ground up utilizing Nintendo’s IP, which is where the line is crossed. Fan mods work because they are distributed as a modification that is applied over Nintendo’s Property; however, a distributed fan game is still a video game that needs to be followed in conjunction with copyright law, and legal action can be made against them if infringement is an issue. Cease and desists are at least only a slap on the wrist compared being outright sued for damages. This is why these projects in the video tend to be targeted.
I can still recommend fan modding if you are interested in delving into it, since your work will usually not be at an immediate risk. It is still a nice learning experience of working within the confines of a game you are interested in, and the reality is that the groundwork for the game itself is already operational (Hopefully, anyways) so it saves a lot of the work needed to have a playable result of your own modifications. Just keep money out of the picture, outside of perhaps an optional donation site if you can justify having one, and you should be fine. But, if you are going through all of the work to make a fan game, then by all means, I encourage you to go the extra step and make it inspired, but kept original. Trust me, that’s some serious effort you really don’t want to go to waste by getting cease and desisted, and is a time investment that you could even make some money off of later down the road. - Noah
Abolish copyright and support more projects like tails gets trolled since they don't care about copyright bullshit and have all creative freedom.
for me the hardest hit was pokemon brick bronze
There was one banger fan game that was unfortunately never mentioned here: a Roblox made little number called, Pokemon - Brick Bronze. A nearly finished masterpiece that was struck down in it's prime and had potential like no other fangame that I have observed, so sad...
Man Pokémon uranium was such a cool idea
I Am With Nintendo They Have No Right To Use Nintendo IP To Bank On Nintendo Work For Their Success!
I understand that those are their characters and everything but some fan projects don't even gain a dollar they make it from love for the franchise or nintendo itself, iam 100% with closing fan projects that cost money. cause they gain money from a character that isn't there's. But fan projects that just for fun? I don't know why they do that