The Game of Crowns: The Tudors (2024)
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From the real life stories that inspired Game of Thrones, delve into a world of dynasties, blood feuds and civil war, where brother battles brother, uncle kills nephew, and cousin executes cousin in the race to decide who wears the bloodstained crown of England. The Tudor dynasty spans little over a century, but it is filled with big personalities and even bigger battles for power and influence. Trace the Tudor bloodline from Henry VII to Elizabeth I in a family drama like no other.
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I love this, but I really love that at the 30:46 mark, a production person in jeans and a polo shirt walks into the shot.
That looks like it could have been filmed at a Society for Creative Anachronism camping event. At those events you're going to have people from a variety of centuries and regional garb, plus the odd person who isn't in costume yet.
😂Hysterical!!!
Good spot!
Good eye! Hahaha
I love that this moment is the most replayed part of the video 😂
I really appreciate the massive work that's gone into this magnificent, masterly, even symphonic production! So many lines being brought into this one video! Fantastic 😊
Henry VII: The Winter King is an absolutely fabulous documentary! If you haven't seen it, if you like this, you'll probably like it, too!
Thanks for info!
Yes it is! And presented excellently, almost as a literal movie but with all the best historians chiming in! My other favorite is the one called " How a Mother's Love Ended the War of the Roses=-about Margaret Beaufort's story putting her son on the throne . Also there's another great one about Henry VI and the Duke of York that is excellent in the same style. Whoever produced and wrote this series are true geniuses.
Everything I’ve read or watched states Elizabeth was WITH sister Mary when she rode into London. I’ve observed a few other inconsistencies but this is a big one.
She most certainly was. It was a show of support for both her sister Mary and the Tudor claim.
I also 20 mins into the video, raised my eyebrows. I guess the they production see the narration as dramatic effect. However, words matter. 'Prayer answer' in the respect to praying for a 'wife' that could bare him a son...dubious. The statement that he had many mistresses contradicts historians that he had far less than other monarchs of the time? Not sure if they have a source. We shall see how it proceeds. I see it as creating questions to dig further doon the rabbit hole. So still appreciated.
Right in the beginning it says Richard was rumored to have killed his infant nephews but they weren't infants....
@suswik3682 I do find it amusing that he sent Wolsey to Rome to ask for a dissolution of his marriage to Catherine on the grounds of consanguinity because of her marriage to his brother Arthur, while also asking for a dispensation to marry Anne for the same consanguinity in regards to his own affair with her sister Mary Boleyn.
It wasn't called the "wars of the roses" until a few centuries later. At the time it was actually happening, it was called "the cousins war" because pretty much everyone involved were related/ cousins.
I did not know that. Thank you
So was many other wars in the Europe theatre about cousins. Usually German.
Much like people didn't call it the Black Death when the plague was first hitting the world. It was called the Great Mortality.
This was so interesting, but I found the loud music a distraction. I particularly enjoyed the historians' interpretations, (though I was surprised at some of them repeating myths that are no longer believed) and it added to the beautiful production. Please consider lowing the music or eliminating it; it's so good you don't need it.
Great series, just a small observation at the beginning of the series (while explainning the origins of Henry VII) his father was Edmund Tudor, not Owen Tudor... Owen was his grandfather.
@omaroreyes: yes. I wrote the book of Margaret C. Barnes: Queen without Crown (My Lady of Cleves).
they make many many mistakes like that thru out this expensive documentary.
Good catch. I also noticed they said Richard had his infant nephews killed even though the princes were 9 and 12 when they disappeared. Quite a few errors on basic facts like that. I wonder why whomever wrote the narrator's script couldn't be bothered to spend a few minutes on Google. Oh well.
I've been obsessed with Tudor history since a child I'm 35 African American and from nyc no one I know is in to this I wish I had friends here to watch and study with
Im a 31 year old african american woman who also loves Tudor history!
You should check out Reading the Past. Dr. Kat is a Tudor historian (though she also covers other periods) and is building a little community of amateur history buffs. She does frequent livestreams etc.
I’m 35 too and same! No one I see regularly is interested in this topic although at a family function a few years ago one of my sister in laws mention Catherine of Aragon and we geeked out over her for a min. My husband is the oldest of 5 but we’re all at least an hour away from each other so I don’t see her much. 👸🏻💔
I'm much older than you, and I've been interested in the Tudor era for years, but also have no one to share it with. I've never met another history buff, not even my family, so I have to do it alone. History and the Tudors are so fascinating; not sure why people say history is boring.
@@celestielsigh so glad that I’m not alone I find it so fascinating
This is a wonderful video for anyone who loves this period of history in Europe, especially the Tudors. Things are mentioned more here that I don't usually see from other videos. In particular the familial background of Katherine of Aragon. Though as a lover of a girl boss, I wanted to hear even more about Katherine of Aragon and Ellizabeth of York
I really, really don't envy the poor people of England during the reign of the Tudors (until some way through Elizabeth's reign, of course). And i feel particularly sorry for Henry's wives, his favourites, and his court (oh, and the 57,000 people sentenced to death by said king).
First mistake a few minutes in. Owen Tudor was Henry's grandfather not father. Edmund Tudor was his father!!
First the nephew's were not infants 😂
4:20 - That armor looks more samurai than late 15th century Europe!
I share that observation. Very strange.
I got a bit Saladin-vibes from is with all that loose chain mail billowing around...
Katherine Howards' picture looks like a spitting image of the actress Scarlette Johanson, who played Ann Boleyn's sister Mary, in a movie about the Boleyns.
The Other Boelyn Girl
5:58: I believe Henry Tudor was born to Margret Beaufort and Edmund Tudor, not Owen Tudor. The latter was his grandfather.
Edmund is the uncle. Owen married Margaret Beaufort
Im supposed to be watching vids for my anatomy and physiology class but this popped up when I opened YT. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
U pass?
Procrastination can be an art form.
If Edward VIII, uncrowded, was counted as a king, Jane Grey should also be counted as a queen too, even though she had ruled for 7 days.
Amazing story every time 🎉
I am fascinated by that chunk of history and learn something new each time
Thank you kindly 😊
I haven’t even got to other errors yet, but it’s astounding to me that historians are still attempting to peddle the line that Henry’s jousting accident led to him being unconscious for several hours and that a head injury changed his personality. The fact is quite simple, if Henry had been unconscious for several hours he would have died, because it would have indicated a severe brain injury. Henry clearly didn’t have a severe brain injury because he came round. What Henry had was probably a concussion, from which he came round and recovered. Henry also did not undergo a personality change after the injury. Henry was always nasty. He had people executed on no evidence before the head injury. He abandoned Katherine of Aragon before the head injury. He turned his back on his eldest daughter and stopped her seeing her mother before the head injury. I could go on, but really, it is a total myth to suggest Henry suffered such a severe brain injury that it led to unconsciousness for several hours and led to a personality change. They’ll be suggesting that Anne’s last miscarriage was of a boy next and that’s dubious too.
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THE HISTORIANS WOW 😂
I always thought that Elizabeth was the son Henry always wanted.
Well said!!
I really enjoyed this summary, great video production! ❤
Brilliant documentary
The Plantagenets had more drama than the Tudors if it weren’t for the war of the roses, the tutors would never have reason to power. I wish for more stories about the Plantagenets are told and series and movies, too. There are inaccuracies in this docuseries Richard, the third nephews were not infants they were preteen that needs to be corrected.
I wonder if Henry VIII considered having Catherine of Aragorn murdered or having an ‘accident’. If that had happened he may have been able to marry Anne Boleyn earlier.
I’ve thought about that myself. In my honest opinion I don’t think he did. Had she died whether by purpose or even by accident, the speculation would follow him and I don’t believe he would have wanted anyone to dispute his marriage to Anne for any reason. Look At Elizabeth I and Robert Dudley. When Dudley’s wife Amy died by falling down the stairs, the rumors that she was murdered so that Elizabeth and Dudley could marry followed them for the rest of their lives.
@@brandy75He LOVED Catherine, I don’t think he would have disposed of her that easily since he had not had the possible TBI. He still had a passion for being violent, but that injury certainly escalated those traits to 100%.
Her nephew was the Holy Roman Emperor. Would have invaded.
@@Angel-nu7fm even if it was an accident or was really convincing? I suppose he may have been looking for any excuse to invade if Henry gave him one.
@@blanchybaby He was going to invade, but Catherine said no.
Henry Tudor actually beheaded the man that gave him the crown on Bosworth field the Stanley brother he actually beheaded him later on during his Contentious rule
This is nearly word for word all from a channel 5 documentary of Henry VIII!
AMAZING PRODUCTION ❤
His cousins were not infants in the tower, they were juveniles, young boys.
It's amazing that they kept saying he was in love with Anne. It was pure animalistic lust. Love lasts beyond sex. Once the lust disappeared, he had her beheaded. When men have absolute power, they do not control their sexual urges. Even men without power tend to have no control over the primal sexual urges. As a man I can tell you there are many that are like dogs in heat and their brain stops working. He was a monster. And yet, he is buried in a cathedral.
Catherine if arrigon was fair haired
Of Aragon not if
Henry’s ego is so fragile. No woman wants a dude jumping out at them, not then and not now. But she got lucky honestly. His daughter got the last laugh and then ended the line. Good for her
Isn’t that Benedict Cumberbatch at 30:54 ?
I slowed it down and swear it is! 🧐
Yes it is, a clip from the movie "The Other Boleyn Girl." He plays Mary Boleyn's new husband, and the scene was of them dancing at their wedding.
I have the same "isle of lewis" chess set featured in the intro.
The Princes in the Tower weren't infants. Some of the costuming is ridiculous. Condensing the Tudors to an hour long docu is just not doable.
They hit the highlights and i think that was their goal. Every one else needs to watch the documentary-series The Tudors if they want the full story. Also “The White Queen” and The White Princess”and The “Red Queen”. The precursors to The Tudors. I am fortunate enough to be very distantly related to almost all of them and have read all I could get my hand on for at least 60 years (I am now 71)
2:00 - A portrait of George I (1714-1727) hangs on the wall of (presumably) Windsor Castle during the reign of Richard III who died in 1485...why not thrown in an iPad hooked up to a large flat screen playing a ‘Kardashians’ marathon?
'No dynasty that did drama like the Tudors', well the Greek Ptolemies of ancient egypt are the most dramatic, dysfunction, homicidal abd incestuous dynasty that ever existed. The Tudors were nothing in comparison.
Elizabeth Tudor was such an amazing ruler, they named a whole era for her. Henry VIII was a fool.
The lady narrator is sitting on the room where 30 yrs ago the film The King's Speech was shot in when Prince of York, went to see the speech therapist. Same etudio! How fitting describee the Tudors.
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It’s the war of the roses red & white rose that influenced game of thrones
It sounds likely that Henry’s jousting accident caused a significant head injury, if his irritability and disinhibition increased after the accident.
The point is that his irritability and so on didn’t increase after the jousting accident. Henry was always a nasty piece of work. He executed people for very questionable reasons before the head injury, the same as after. He turned his back on Katherine of Aragon before the head injury, destroying over 20 years of marriage. He turned his back on his eldest daughter, Mary, before the head injury. He became involved with Anne Boleyn before the head injury, before that he had an affair with her sister, Mary Boleyn, and probably fathered her daughter, before the head injury. I could go on, but frankly it’s a bit ridiculous of people to cling to the idea that Henry was somehow changed by the 1536 head injury under the weight of so much evidence that his personality hadn’t changed at all. It’s not even clear how long he was unconscious for. It’s unlikely Henry was unconscious for two hours. Being unconscious for more than a few minutes is considered really dangerous in modern times. It’s likely two hours of unconsciousness in the Tudor period would have killed him.
I love the Tudor dynasty
Excellent presentation 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Just… no need for the continuous multi coloured transitions, not good on the eyes..
Henry Chuda - RUclips predictive closed caption.
5:56 um excuse me but why would Henry Tudor have his hair cut like a skater boi and then it be french or braided like a Swedish Viking? 5:56
Thank you! I was hoping I wasn't the only one who noticed. Was he wearing guyliner too?
@@juliamontgomery7312 yeah. I saw guy liner too.
Like it was just so random and not accurate it kinda soured the entire episode. It's like just thrown together shit and recycled info.
6:00 I was thinking the same. Glad I'm not the only one bothered by this. And at 6 minutes they confused Owen Tudor with his son Edmund Tudor. At that point I stopped watching. I love history documentaries but this one had me screaming at my telly. 😢
I wish i cud go bck in time a d actually witness all of this history! Always felt a "connection" to Anne Boleyn as a woman and as being unfairly blamed and persecuted all bcoz she fell in love with the wrong man..i can relate to thst 😐
I think a lot of us women can relate to that!
I’d love to see what she looked like they still are not sure what she looked like and Henry tried to destroy her likeness
Oh yeah, let's forget the long period where she actively sought to harass and abuse Mary Tudor, the daughter of King Henry and Queen Catherine, and how Anne Boleyn married King Henry while he was still married to Queen Catherine. Don't forget all the times she wished Mary would have her head bashed in by someone or just die to clear the path for Elizabeth. Such a good role model...I'm glad you can relate to her.
BOLEYN was illegitimate and a player in dangerous games.
Unfairly blamed for adultery!??
I hear Elizabeth was less extreme in her Protestant faith.
Both Henry and Elizabeth murdered more people for religious reasons than Mary. Henry was a crypto Catholic and Elizabeth was a staunch Protestant but believed in individual choice. Mary, sadly, was a zealot. And imho, blamed the Protestant Reformation for her mother’s demise.
Richard III was slain at the Battle of Bosworth by my many-times Great Grandfather -- Sir Rhys aps Thomas.
Cool… I’m a HUGE FAN of Henry VII… so man docs make him out to be dictatorial when Richard killed his young nephews and any nobles who questioned his motives without a trial. It’s absurd to argue that, Richard, who was SO paranoid at this point would have allowed ANYONE to get near those poor boys. It’s straight out of Phillipa Gregory novels. About as the plausible as in The Other Boleyn Girl when Mary Boleyn confronts Henry VIII to plead Anne’s case… yeah right! Mary was long gone from court life and Henry was wooing Jane Seymour. Why let those pesky facts get in the way of a good story?!?
Is the Tudor dynasty really the greatest, or just the most infamous?
stopped paying attention.. a few inaccuracies and glossing over many others..but at 30:54 IS THAT BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH????
Actually the legitimate ones were children of Henry VII through his wife, a daughter of the late king Edward IV.
Elizabeth I secured that England would be a protestant country; they never went back. I think the historians were too kind insofar as Henry VIII goes. He’d already abandoned his first wife, Catherine, for Anne at the time of his jousting accident. IMHO, personalities don’t change materially over time.
30:53 is that a young Benedict Cumberbatch?
It’s him
The constant interruptions by the experts ruins this.
Just wonder if they could still talk without moving their hands
,?
Edward V was declared illegitimate and therefore was not heir to the throne, neither was his brother.
also he was never crowned. also his father Edward IV was a USURPER & king killer
He was made illegitimate by act of Parliament months after Richard III became king. Any act of Parliament could easily be repealed.
Richard III never had a court look at the marriage of Edward V and Elizabeth Woodville. Then as now, the only way to have a marriage annulled- was by a court declaration. So as their marriage was not ever properly annulled the marriage remained valid. Those who believe Richard III had no motive to kill his nephews tend to ignore the actual legal facts.
And then Henry VII declared them legitimate again. And that claim of illegitimacy came at such a convienent time sorry to say I don't actually believe it.
@@yarazooom And Richard did the same. Fitting that his claim should come through a usurper, that he would become a usurper, and then he should be unseated by a usurper.
War of the red and white roses.
Where is prince Edmund? Did he over sleep
Ok, right off the bat, the nephews weren't infants...makes me wonder about the rest of the video.
So if Mary fleeing to England from Scotland was the worst decision, where was she supposed to go! France would t have got involved
Sorry, this is really anti Richard the third Plantagenet propaganda. Richard was not the Machiavellian massmurderer that the Tudors got Shakespeare to write. Shakespeare was commissioned by the tutors, so he had to write a very deceitful viewpoints of Richard 111 who died on Bosworth I’m so glad that they discovered him and discovered more accurate information of his rule
Well obviously it's a Tudor documentary not Plantagenet documentary
But what about the bodies of the child relatives he killed? They found those…
I always thought Prince Harry looked a lot like Henry 8th!
A bit of resemblance...but if Henry the 8th was alive today, Harry's head would be on the chopping block...my opinion, of course...
Actually Harry very definitely looks like the queens husband.
@@Shelly-mz9yfyeah he’s Phil all over. Especially the close set eyes. Nothing like Henry VIII except hair. There are no portraits for a fit Henry just a fat one.
@@catherineannelockman3805 You are mistaken. It's not a matter if Henry VIII would be alive today, it's if Henry Windsor would be alive then. For if he does he would sooner be deposed.
Who’s prince harry?
What is the name of the Catholic music?
Injured badly in a joust competition, yes. Drug by horse after falling off bc foot stuck in stirrup, yes. I can believe any and all of those scenarios. Horse falling on top of him NO. Horses are SO POWERFUL, NO WAY the horse even noticed the hit of the joust pole hitting him unless it hit the horse. Could believe the joust pole hit the HORSE and the horse fell on him. But dont believe it hit the king and the horse fell.
If a horse fell on a person, wouldn't it kill them?
@barbarapaige4587
Not necessarily, depends how it all unfolded.
Dragged not dryg
You have exhausted the topic of the Tudors. Ad nauseum
Sorry. I couldn’t get past 2 minutes. When it said that Richard III killed his “infant” nephews, I clicked off. I don’t know if this is even supposed to be historically accurate, but seriously?
It says rumored to have killed his nephews...what wasn't true was they we not infants at the time smdh lol
They were not infants. Starting off with such a fallacy doesn't bode well for continued credibility
Henry had bad luck for so long trying to have legitimate sons through attainment of questionable marriage practices multiple times The dude gained a reputation throughout Europe for killing his wives, so it doesn't sound like he was a hot ticket as he got older; not only for how he looked, but also, being a renowned murderer, if he didn't get what he wanted. Then, the only son he had (through marriage), ended up dying in his teens, outside of 2 daughters who also had no children during their reigns...so you would think it would become obvious that the family line wasn't meant to last & to stop trying to force it, just to create more problems for yourSelf, lol
And Henry VIII would be shocked to learn that it's actually the male who determines the gender of the child.
@@carolthomas8004 I think every royal bloodline throughout Europe would have benefited from knowing that, lol! It really sucked to be born into the royal family. Maybe all the pomp & circumstance made it look like they had it better off, but when it comes down to it, all of these families functioned from trauma & survival mode. Even doctors & preachers would lie or support lies, in order to save their own heads. Not to mention selling off pre-teen girls to men old enough to be their fathers & grandfathers. Which was essentially legal rape & at times, close enough to be incest. Marrying cousins so close, that children were born sickly or with mental health issues. A lot of the health issues throughout these bloodlines were proof of how toxic royal families functioned. Queen Victoria passing a particular health condition down through her daughters was probably the most obvious disturbance.
Edward was his only legitimate don but not his only son he had Henry Fitzroy with a miststressbessie blount
His nephews were not infants
Yo IM HERE WHAT'D I MISS? wait dont tell me yet....
King Henry the VIII would have put THE MEGALIAR AND HAIRLESS HARRY's heads on pikes!! Miss the old days😂
Evil...
It's a little wild that Henry and Edward and Catherine Parr didn't do more to secure advantageous marriages for Mary and Elizabeth.
And I'm always surprised that Mary didn't choose another heir. And why she wasn't called "Smoky Mary" 🔥
And why would Elizabeth assume that any man she married would become King Regnant? Wouldn't they be regent?
Not quite sure about some of this.. but Mary didn't name another person heir because in their Father's will, Mary and Elizabeth were reinstated to be in the line of succession should his son not have children, which he didn't as he died very young. Basically it went their brother, Mary and then Elizabeth. Mary was under the same mind as their Father that if she couldn't produce an heir than at the least Elizabeth is a biological child of Henry VIII. Its also likely that if Mary had chosen a different heir, the people of England would've most likely rioted, and nobles and aristocratics would've put Elizabeth on the throne after removing whomever Mary had named heir. Basically another situation of the nine days queen just like with Mary and as for Elizabeth not marrying.. Her husband would've been King because she was female and they believed females couldn't rule, or at least rule effectively without a male. The husband would've been the real power even though she was a true queen. So I don't blame her for not marrying as she proved she could and would rule effectively without a male beside her.
Mary was married to King Phillip of Spain the most powerful nation at that time so how much better of a husband could she have had?
Princess consort
@@liiiir True
@@christiansoldier77 I get that, but was it Catherine, Edward, or Henry who arranged that particular marriage? Or was it initiated by Mary herself?
I wouldt like to know Anne Boleyn
Time machine?
Hahaha
The armor in this show is TOTALLY WRONG. Good grief, this isn't ancient Rome or Japan.
the royals remind me of the mafia
How on earth the pope had such a power at that period of history.
FAr FAR TOO MANY ADDS. Good content but a pain to watch
Elizabeth? OF COURSE, she needed a king!
NOTHING IN THE WHOLE WORLD HAS CHANGED "NOTHING "
So many errors, this to me looks like an AI video!
Who produced these repetitive, incorrect films?
Tudor is not is last name, not his line. It's mine!
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WHAT FOLLY!
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interestingly when the barbarians ruled and reigned europe after the fall of roman empire,,,it looks like the tribal game of the crowns...
The first facts of this documentary are misleading- 1485, not 1484 and it talks of Henry Tudor’s father as being illegitimate - when there is no evidence about Catherine’s marriage with Owen Tudor. Most sources I have seen talk about them having married. In any event Henry VII’s claim came through his mother, not his father- who was Edmund Tudor. Owen Tudor was his paternal grandfather and is irrelevant to Henry’s claim.
Margaret Beaufort had a controversial claim, but not no claim. Her claim was either pretty strong or no claim - depending on whether parliamentary law trumped a king’s letters patent or not. Margaret’s grandfather was the illegitimate son of John of Gaunt and his mistress Katherine. Their children were given the surname Beaufort. John later married Katherine and had their Beaufort children legitimated by both the Pope and the English Parliament.
Later John’s first son became King Henry IV, and he issued letters patent to legitimise his half brothers and sisters (even though they were already legitimate). However in his declaration he purported to ban them from the throne, yet he did not pass another act of Parliament to do so, so it is questionable if the bar was legally effective.
Why do the two narrators wave their hands so excessively?
Drives me mad as well……just like trump who always looks lie he is playing the concertina.
Americans do the same thing, think of trump’s playing the duke box
I am a very very distant relative of Katherine Parr.
Mary did not burn thousands 🙄
You're correct. Elizabeth had way more people executed than Mary. Mary was only Queen for 5 years, Elizabeth for 40+. Elizabeth was a hard core anti-Catholic and had even priests burned at the stake.
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Great documentary but lose the constant writing all during the video.
Shame all those women were blamed and had to die for not providing Henry VIII with a son when it is actually the man that provides the sex of the child.😢😢😢😢😢😢
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IM SO SICK OF THE TUDORS OMG DO THE OTHER KINGS JEEZ
INNACURATE ARMOUR AND WEAPONRY
Yall Queen Elizabeth 1 was a Virgo.
Thats why she was the "Virgin" Queen.
It had nothing to do with her being a virgin. Lol thats funny tho that people assume that. Vause astrology was considered a science back then
This isn’t the case. If you study the portraits, pageants, and literature during Elizabeth’s reign, it is clear that the celebration of her virginity was a synchronic phenomenon, with efforts to flatter her as a new Judith or Deborah, Eliza Triumphans, Astraea, Cynthia, and even Venus-Virgo.
@@DrOwenEmmerson yeah yeah I know but people are known to lie and I just call Bullshit on the virgin shit. I got a theory she was actually a hermaphrodite and she still was having sexual contact with Dudley her long term pet.
But believe what you want bud.
@@MagdaleneDivineThe issue you have is that you need to back theories up with evidence. There isn’t any evidence to support the idea that ‘The Virgin Queen’ related to her being a Virgo, and countless pieces of evidence that tells us that it refers to her virginity. There isn’t any evidence either that Elizabeth was a hermaphrodite. Indeed, she had documented gynaecological examinations prior to proposed marriage contracts which very much suggest otherwise.
I love how confident you are in this dumbass comment 😂
Edward Seymour is my 12th great grandfather
A greatly overrated dynasty.
My royal ancestors on my mother’s side of the family
Seriously? You're bringing the word "misogynistic" into Tudor history? FFS is there no end to you people quoting your 'woke' manuals?? 🙄😠
Is this comment directed at me? I'm not woke at all n I never mentioned mysogamy! But if u wanna talk misandry I'm here.....😉
@@TinaLouise73 No it is not, it is directed at the man in the burgundy shirt on the program.
@@onlyonekate2011 Oh Ok! No worries x
@@TinaLouise73 Thank you! x
How can the word ‘misogyny’ be considered ‘woke’ when it was a term coined in the 17th century?!