Really nice improvements over the previous model. Didn't like the fact that it couldn't make it up the hill on throttle the second time you tried it. Would like to see a little more powerful motor to take care of this issue. With new ebike laws coming this bike might be the solution to be able to keep riding ebikes on public roads & sidewalks. Overall I like it . I will keep it in mind in case the new laws stop me from riding my current more powerful ebike. As usual you do a great job reviewing ebikes.
I have the original XP Lite....just about 1400 miles on it now, until recently I haven't had any issues....it randomly kicks the cruise control off and pulses the motor while cruising, so you have the motor then you don't....I think the controller is failing in it unfortunately. Kind of want a new one, with some of the upgrades of this new one, I just might order one. That belt sounds like it would be a worthwhile upgrade too. I do not ride aggressively, so I have no issues riding wherever people ride regular bikes, but I can certainly see some people ruining it for others unfortunately.
I liked your video. You having the original model next to the 2.0 allowed you to make better comparisons than other reviewers who were just remembering the original. You conveyed a lot more info than was available in the preview reviews that came out the day Lectric announced the 2.0 model.
Thanks for the suggestion. Since it is already a single speed I would say it would be nice to have. It would be cleaner, quieter and would be less maintenance over time.
I have the original XP Lite. Close to 1400 miles on it, and haven't done anything to it.....its showing signs of I'm guessing a failing controller, no codes, but the cruise control randomly drops out, and while cruising the motor starts pulsing power off and on, so you end up pedaling more than you get motor assist. The gates belt would be a nice upgrade, as would be the hydraulic brakes I'd assume, I've never had a bike with hydraulic brakes so I have no idea. I was hoping they would beef up the motor some, but to keep it in the same price point they couldn't....I'm glad they now have an extended range version though....I've been thinking about getting a new Lectric, but was going to go with one of the higher end models, but I might do that anyhow to get a larger motor...that tiny 300 watt motor struggles on the hills, I'm only 165-170 pounds, add some daily carry stuff in my backpack and that would make the overall weight about 200 pounds..... I wonder how those new tires hold up VS the more aggressive tires...I think the tires on my XP Lite are probably getting close to needing replacements, they're getting pretty worn...but that's with close to 1400 miles on it. I enjoy riding it, but around 17 miles is about as far as I'd try to take it without being able to charge it.
I have had other e-bikes that have the power problems you described, taking the battery in and out, reseating the contacts fixed the problem in them. Sad to hear about your problem since I just ordered the Lite 2.0 .
I have just over 2200 miles on my original xp lite and only replaced the chain and upgraded brakes to hydraulics. Bike still runs smooth and easily does hills around my area. I bought 2nd battery since I sometimes do longer trips on weekends for fun. Still have original tires but back tire is showing wear. Considering the new version if pedal assist speeds are the same
You should do a video where you test the range feature. See what the range says when start a trip. Go 5-10 miles and see what the new range is to see if it accurately subtracted to miles out on, or maybe test it when doing a range test to see how far you can actually go based on the range.
Jeremiah, I am 200 pounds. Which seat post suspension is best for this bike? Can’t wait for it to come in. No chain on mine. Yea. Can’t wait to ride with my standard poodle, hyper dog. I am 5’4”
Tip: You can mount the headlight into one of the screw holes where you'd mount the front rack which is especially good for reducing bumps and vibrations from loosening the headlight joints if your bike has front suspension like on the XP2.0/3.0, ESPECIALLY especially if you got their Elite headlight which is bigger and weighs more.
The standard sandstorm is now available in stock, the other models still has a pre order status still. Hoping the black model ships out soon! Still has a July estimate, the purple has late August shipment estimate
Noticed the release model, based on the uploaded owners manual for the 2.0, it does not have the range display option, it skips right over range and goes to voltage. Maybe it did not do well on testing. I noticed some of the earlier releases for testing and reviews had that option, and some did not.
----- I really like those blinking lights. I had to add aftermarket turn signals and blinking lights to my bike. It couldn't have been comfortable riding with your seat so low. I'm bookmarking this review so I can find how to reset the blinkers after the new bike arrives.
@@JeremiahMcintosh My sister will be getting her lite 2.0 with long range battery next week. I ride the XP 3.0 and I really love it! But the lite (even if she's using the throttle 100% of the time) will be outbound long after I've turned for home because my battery is running out. My XP 3.0 goes about 35 miles max, at least the way I ride. ----- I have to ask, how does the lite handle in traffic?
Do you think the $200 battery upgrade is a must? First time e bike purchase for my 13 year old. Just using it for family bike ride on the beach or off roads. Thanks
It depends what you expect. I’ve been just fine with my existing 7ah battery on the original Lectric lite and that’s the bike we always take on camping trips but if you’re planning on long trips over 15 miles it would be worth it. Of course this all depends on the weight of the rider the terrain and how much they pedal. If you do order please consider using the affiliate link in the description of my video. Thank you.
Yes because the Lectric 3.0 has front suspension, is more powerful , comes with rack and fenders, is faster and has gears. If you’re looking for something smaller and lighter you can’t go wrong with the Lectric Lite tho.
Wait a second, I have this same bike now and when I'm in PAS 1 the bike flies to 10mph, then PAS 2 the bike flies to 15mph.. How did you get yours to operate differently?
I have a XP lite 1 now. I was going to upgrade the brakes and buy another battery. Seeing what it would cost I just ordered the XP 2 JW black the day it came out. Should be here next week. My only concern is I have the dog trailer and it bolts on the rear axle. I’m not sure it will bolt to the XP lite 2 axle?
So torn between this one, the ride 1 up portola and the xp 3.0 step thru…I like the lite ones but also like pep… update: I ordered the portola I’ll update when it arrives.
The xp 3.0 and portola are considerably heavier. I have the xp 2.0 and it weighs in at 65 lbs. with the battery. I did add a couple of accessories but they are less than a pound in total. No problem if you are strong enough but xp lite probably better for women and older people.
@@robertd9850 I did get the Portola and love it! I can load it but it’s not super easy! My hubby helps me most of the time though. I’m 58 and female and will keep it as long as it’s doable. It’s such a great bike !
For the love of god, why don't they move the key location. I hate where the key is on my 2.0. Would be better if the battery could be removed without folding the bike, but that's just a personal preference. Also, why don't they offer an option to replace the existing seat at the factory, it sucks that the stock seats are just being thrown away. I'd like the gates belt option with the other colors, as I like sandstone and the blue. And finally, they should up the allowable top speed to 22-24 mph.
The top speed of 20 is a little slow and the trouble it has with much of incline makes me wish it had a little bigger motor for uneven roads or trails.
I noticed my jw black speedometer does not work below 5 mph in PAS 0. Also past 20mph going down hill, I watched my gps speedometer go up to 27mph, the display past 20 flickered from 18-21. But never went about 21.x. Was wondering if your version does the same thing. Then I know it’s a programming issue, not just mine. It should show the current speed no matter what right? My mileage per trip and overall is off now.
I have the original xp lite. Do you notice a difference in speeds on the new xp lite 2.0 in peddle assist 1, 2 & 3 peddle modes. Mine does 12 mph in pedal assist 2 mode
I can go 20mph in PAS-1....it just gets there a bit slower....PAS levels have nothing to do with top speed, just how quick the motor reacts to throttle applications.
I'm going back and forth between the carbon drive xp lite and the Ado Air 20 which is a bit lighter. I want to be able to ride on packed crushed gravel trails with occasional rough spots. Anyone have experience with either bike on that surface?
@@JeremiahMcintosh I am looking at how you ride and how most others do and it’s just short. I see now that Lectric are acknowledging that and are saying they will send the same length seat post as the 1.0 which is great!
Sir, may I ask if you have a XP 3.0 and buy a XPedition controller, screen and rear hub then install it on the 3.0, will it work with just the power cable to XT60 modifications and the rest of the cables is plug ang play? thank you very much!
I'm not getting what the big fascination is with silent bikes.. Maybe sneaking up on people is fun? I don't get it. Embarrassing to pass some people if they know you're not on a regular bike?
Regen braking is hardly worth the juice to squeeze. More parts to add on top of a competitive market at the $1000-2000 ebike scene. You'll get like what 1 mile back on a full battery from regen energy. Regen braking is still a predominantly car feature due to the significant energy kinetic energy from how fast cars go and how much mass they carry. A single regen brake event from a car at high speed can capture as much energy as a small ebike battery
Really nice improvements over the previous model. Didn't like the fact that it couldn't make it up the hill on throttle the second time you tried it. Would like to see a little more powerful motor to take care of this issue. With new ebike laws coming this bike might be the solution to be able to keep riding ebikes on public roads & sidewalks. Overall I like it . I will keep it in mind in case the new laws stop me from riding my current more powerful ebike. As usual you do a great job reviewing ebikes.
I have the original XP Lite....just about 1400 miles on it now, until recently I haven't had any issues....it randomly kicks the cruise control off and pulses the motor while cruising, so you have the motor then you don't....I think the controller is failing in it unfortunately.
Kind of want a new one, with some of the upgrades of this new one, I just might order one. That belt sounds like it would be a worthwhile upgrade too.
I do not ride aggressively, so I have no issues riding wherever people ride regular bikes, but I can certainly see some people ruining it for others unfortunately.
Professional review as always! That bike is a keeper. I would spend the extra 100 bucks to get the belt drive though.
I agree...although I haven't had any chain issues with my XP Lite in almost 1400 miles, the belt drive sounds like it would be an excellent idea.
Ordered mine last week I’m so excited
what color?
@@railfan100 lavender haze
I liked your video. You having the original model next to the 2.0 allowed you to make better comparisons than other reviewers who were just remembering the original. You conveyed a lot more info than was available in the preview reviews that came out the day Lectric announced the 2.0 model.
Thanks for a great video. Please do a video explaining if the belt drive is really worth getting on this small bike.
Thanks for the suggestion. Since it is already a single speed I would say it would be nice to have. It would be cleaner, quieter and would be less maintenance over time.
Wish I could get the belt drive with a different color!
That’s what I was saying exactly. I ordered the lavender model and would of loved to get it with a belt drive. But it’s ok.
Great review, love the upgrades!
I have the original XP Lite. Close to 1400 miles on it, and haven't done anything to it.....its showing signs of I'm guessing a failing controller, no codes, but the cruise control randomly drops out, and while cruising the motor starts pulsing power off and on, so you end up pedaling more than you get motor assist.
The gates belt would be a nice upgrade, as would be the hydraulic brakes I'd assume, I've never had a bike with hydraulic brakes so I have no idea.
I was hoping they would beef up the motor some, but to keep it in the same price point they couldn't....I'm glad they now have an extended range version though....I've been thinking about getting a new Lectric, but was going to go with one of the higher end models, but I might do that anyhow to get a larger motor...that tiny 300 watt motor struggles on the hills, I'm only 165-170 pounds, add some daily carry stuff in my backpack and that would make the overall weight about 200 pounds.....
I wonder how those new tires hold up VS the more aggressive tires...I think the tires on my XP Lite are probably getting close to needing replacements, they're getting pretty worn...but that's with close to 1400 miles on it. I enjoy riding it, but around 17 miles is about as far as I'd try to take it without being able to charge it.
I have had other e-bikes that have the power problems you described, taking the battery in and out, reseating the contacts fixed the problem in them. Sad to hear about your problem since I just ordered the Lite 2.0 .
I have just over 2200 miles on my original xp lite and only replaced the chain and upgraded brakes to hydraulics. Bike still runs smooth and easily does hills around my area. I bought 2nd battery since I sometimes do longer trips on weekends for fun. Still have original tires but back tire is showing wear. Considering the new version if pedal assist speeds are the same
You should do a video where you test the range feature. See what the range says when start a trip. Go 5-10 miles and see what the new range is to see if it accurately subtracted to miles out on, or maybe test it when doing a range test to see how far you can actually go based on the range.
Jeremiah, I am 200 pounds. Which seat post suspension is best for this bike? Can’t wait for it to come in. No chain on mine. Yea. Can’t wait to ride with my standard poodle, hyper dog. I am 5’4”
There is a link in the video description for the seatpost I unsubscribe on this bike. Also you will definitely want to upgrade the seat!
Tip: You can mount the headlight into one of the screw holes where you'd mount the front rack which is especially good for reducing bumps and vibrations from loosening the headlight joints if your bike has front suspension like on the XP2.0/3.0, ESPECIALLY especially if you got their Elite headlight which is bigger and weighs more.
Great video explaining all the updates on the 2.0. BTW what is the app your using for the speedometer?
Thank you. It’s just called speedometer.
The standard sandstorm is now available in stock, the other models still has a pre order status still. Hoping the black model ships out soon! Still has a July estimate, the purple has late August shipment estimate
Noticed the release model, based on the uploaded owners manual for the 2.0, it does not have the range display option, it skips right over range and goes to voltage. Maybe it did not do well on testing. I noticed some of the earlier releases for testing and reviews had that option, and some did not.
Would love to see the belt drive and compare the cadence between the two
Sandstorm color I like
----- I really like those blinking lights. I had to add aftermarket turn signals and blinking lights to my bike. It couldn't have been comfortable riding with your seat so low. I'm bookmarking this review so I can find how to reset the blinkers after the new bike arrives.
I love the blinking light feature. Yeah my seat was to low but it makes it easier for me to film like that. Which model did you buy? A Lectric Lite?
@@JeremiahMcintosh My sister will be getting her lite 2.0 with long range battery next week. I ride the XP 3.0 and I really love it! But the lite (even if she's using the throttle 100% of the time) will be outbound long after I've turned for home because my battery is running out. My XP 3.0 goes about 35 miles max, at least the way I ride.
----- I have to ask, how does the lite handle in traffic?
It handles great! Kind of like riding a bmx bike.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Thank you for the info, I sincerely appreciate it.
Do you think the $200 battery upgrade is a must? First time e bike purchase for my 13 year old. Just using it for family bike ride on the beach or off roads. Thanks
It depends what you expect. I’ve been just fine with my existing 7ah battery on the original Lectric lite and that’s the bike we always take on camping trips but if you’re planning on long trips over 15 miles it would be worth it. Of course this all depends on the weight of the rider the terrain and how much they pedal. If you do order please consider using the affiliate link in the description of my video. Thank you.
Is the XP 3.0 still superior to this bike in the long range model compared to this bike in the long range model
Yes because the Lectric 3.0 has front suspension, is more powerful , comes with rack and fenders, is faster and has gears. If you’re looking for something smaller and lighter you can’t go wrong with the Lectric Lite tho.
Wait a second, I have this same bike now and when I'm in PAS 1 the bike flies to 10mph, then PAS 2 the bike flies to 15mph.. How did you get yours to operate differently?
@JeremiahMcintosh I have a Lectic XP 1.0. How does the zippiness/acceleration of the Lite 2.0 compare?
I have a XP lite 1 now. I was going to upgrade the brakes and buy another battery. Seeing what it would cost I just ordered the XP 2 JW black the day it came out. Should be here next week. My only concern is I have the dog trailer and it bolts on the rear axle. I’m not sure it will bolt to the XP lite 2 axle?
I don’t think they ship till July.
So torn between this one, the ride 1 up portola and the xp 3.0 step thru…I like the lite ones but also like pep… update: I ordered the portola I’ll update when it arrives.
The xp 3.0 and portola are considerably heavier. I have the xp 2.0 and it weighs in at 65 lbs. with the battery. I did add a couple of accessories but they are less than a pound in total. No problem if you are strong enough but xp lite probably better for women and older people.
@@robertd9850 I did get the Portola and love it! I can load it but it’s not super easy! My hubby helps me most of the time though. I’m 58 and female and will keep it as long as it’s doable. It’s such a great bike !
Do hear battery rattle? that was an issue with the first lite......they should know better by now...?
Great review! 😎
Hopefully soon I get my XP lite 2.0 Ship's out in July, but no date. I ordered It June 5th
Same here ordered a couple weeks ago but when I called they said end of July but didn’t give a date.
What color you get??
For the love of god, why don't they move the key location. I hate where the key is on my 2.0. Would be better if the battery could be removed without folding the bike, but that's just a personal preference. Also, why don't they offer an option to replace the existing seat at the factory, it sucks that the stock seats are just being thrown away. I'd like the gates belt option with the other colors, as I like sandstone and the blue. And finally, they should up the allowable top speed to 22-24 mph.
The top speed of 20 is a little slow and the trouble it has with much of incline makes me wish it had a little bigger motor for uneven roads or trails.
I wonder if you can manipulate the tire size to trick to go faster than 20mph.
I noticed my jw black speedometer does not work below 5 mph in PAS 0. Also past 20mph going down hill, I watched my gps speedometer go up to 27mph, the display past 20 flickered from 18-21. But never went about 21.x. Was wondering if your version does the same thing. Then I know it’s a programming issue, not just mine. It should show the current speed no matter what right? My mileage per trip and overall is off now.
I have the original xp lite. Do you notice a difference in speeds on the new xp lite 2.0 in peddle assist 1, 2 & 3 peddle modes. Mine does 12 mph in pedal assist 2 mode
Wondering if the single speed is a free wheel so that the pedals can move backwards without a coaster brake?
Yes it is a freewheel.
Great job
Really nice!
The final version does not appear to have that range display. I wonder if there is a way to enable it?
Hmm I’m not sure. Maybe they did away with it. I don’t think it was very accurate anyway.
How did you adjust the PAS settings? I see other people go 17-20MPH on PAS3 alone.
I can go 20mph in PAS-1....it just gets there a bit slower....PAS levels have nothing to do with top speed, just how quick the motor reacts to throttle applications.
@@wildbill23c Oh didn't know this. Thank you!
I'm going back and forth between the carbon drive xp lite and the Ado Air 20 which is a bit lighter. I want to be able to ride on packed crushed gravel trails with occasional rough spots. Anyone have experience with either bike on that surface?
Did you get one ?
@@TheBarreraLifeStyle Yes but neither of those. I got the Fiido X.
Wait until you have to replace the set. That folds the bike in half. That little boat I had to use pliers. To unscrew it off.
Why do they ship these 2.0 bikes with such a short seat post?
Insufficient leg extension for most riders over 5’8”
There not short. You can raise it way up if you want to.
@@JeremiahMcintosh I am looking at how you ride and how most others do and it’s just short.
I see now that Lectric are acknowledging that and are saying they will send the same length seat post as the 1.0 which is great!
Sir, may I ask if you have a XP 3.0 and buy a XPedition controller, screen and rear hub then install it on the 3.0, will it work with just the power cable to XT60 modifications and the rest of the cables is plug ang play? thank you very much!
I'm not getting what the big fascination is with silent bikes.. Maybe sneaking up on people is fun? I don't get it. Embarrassing to pass some people if they know you're not on a regular bike?
I don’t know what you mean, Regular bicycles are silent also! Just give a ring of the bell on the way by.
@@JeremiahMcintosh I like the sound of tires and motor on my bike. I would miss the sound if it was silent.
I wish they would build an affordable bike with regenerative braking.
You really only see regen braking on bikes using a direct drive motor which can typically go 40+MPH, which is more electric motorcycle territory.
Regen braking is hardly worth the juice to squeeze. More parts to add on top of a competitive market at the $1000-2000 ebike scene. You'll get like what 1 mile back on a full battery from regen energy. Regen braking is still a predominantly car feature due to the significant energy kinetic energy from how fast cars go and how much mass they carry. A single regen brake event from a car at high speed can capture as much energy as a small ebike battery
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