'I shredded the documents myself' | Former HS2 head tells Nigel Farage of BILLION-POUND cover-up
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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Steal a thousand pounds go to jail. Steal a Billion pounds get a pat on the back. Welcome to the UK.
A pat on the back?? They give 'em bloody knighthoods, ffs.
Central bankers who lend money to the government do that everyday disguised as taxes under threat of throwing you in a cage if you don't pay the bankers.
They call it "Servicing government debt"
Or if you're female you become a Dame and then the bigger the scandal, the bigger the payout.
Say a few hurty words or God forbid misgender someone and suffer the wrath of the powers that be. Corruption and greed are rife in this country and those responsible will keep rewarding themselves.
many say ill-timing as well as it shows up likely 7ory favouritism toward mega rich by them now lifting bankers bonuses in a recession and cost of living crisis where most struggle between eating, heating and paying excessive taxes and sky high utility bills. Time for labour to come in and put back the ban on excessive CEO wages, bankers bonuses, closing tax loop holes, digital sales tax and taxing more of the Wealthy like their 2nd+ holiday homes - time for those homes to be made open to locals, UK homeless and ever increasing new arrivals.
And a large number of people still think Britain isn't a corrupt country.
It's the reason why the M*fia, never got a foothold in the country
@@rjones6219 That's because the Mafia were already in charge. HM Government.
Every country has corruption ,anywhere there are humans ,there will be some level of corruption . To believe otherwise is naive .
Corruption in the UK now is off the scale! 🤬🤬 Who can we trust = no one. What a sad state of affairs.🤬
Banana republic Britain
As a Aussie i find it disturbing how low the UK has sunk.
Soon we will sink as low as Australia if we get a labour govt.
Me too, but let's be honest - Australia isn't much better.
@@NiceLokilol as a Brit living in Australia I can’t tell you how funny your statement is
As a dual citizen who has just returned to England from living in Australia, yeah I do know what I'm talking about.
@@NiceLoki I agree, removing the right wing government has helped.
I remember back in the old days when we used to joke about the southern European countries being ridiculously corrupt, looks like we over took them.
So true....
Britain has always been corrupt its just the internet is able to spread information about these things more greatly so you see it more. All the councillors in your local authority are all on the screw they decide who they are going to pay for what, like my local council pays a subcontractor to do all the work needed on council houses the councillors will have business interests in that firm.
I'm sure they still are.
We've never been corrupt in the sense of policeman demanding bribes from ordinary members of the public, or A&E staff taking cash to see people quicker. etc We are more corrupt in that the ruling classes are allowed to promote and advance each other career, massive managerial incompetence resulting in compensation payments that the ordinary person could only dream of.
Sad is it not. Feel good that your country can't come close to the corruption of my home country, the USA. If you put a dollar value on corruption I'd venture to guess that the USA would exceed all other countries combined. I'm a patriotic American but this is what I see after 72 years and paying attention through most of those years.
This corruption needs to stop and people need to go to jail!! Period.
@christinawilson4155 WE Would have to start in Parliament , Fraud Treason Theft etc.
It never will as its never enough they can fiddle
Better build a few new prisons,then.
I think the corruption runs deep
@@keithhooper6123 5 have already been built.
We salute you, GB News, Nigel Farage and Andrew Bruce.
Professional to the core and prelpared to speak out and take the flak in order to support the British taxpayer, those affected and those with integrity who work within these industries.
Don't be so naive....nigel Farages fingers are pretty sticky
@@williammccormick64Evidence please.
The story was broken by The Times.
This needs investigating properly by the fraud squad.
A public enquiry
That's never going to happen.
We have a fraud squad in the city of London that had yet to prove insider trading!
You also wonder if those lads and lasses in said fraud squad are doing well.on the stock market.
A fraud squad enquiry this needs routing out businesses forced out people lives broken by a project we didn’t need or want what a complete waste - is it any wonder why the government has no money continually up taxes to pay for their mis management
You have to commit murder in the public sector to face any consequences... This isn't misgendering we're talking about 😂
Would cover it up
HS2 was George Osbourne's ego project and a gift to the management consultants. Fee farming
No it wasn’t, it was invented by Gordon Brown originally.
@@tonkerdog1 and Osbourne jumped on it with relish
I always thought it originated from Alister Darling.
wasnt that the guy who destroyed all our public services?
@@gregprocter765 Gordon brown? He invented PFI yes
Andrew Bridgen stated on RUclips he had been underpaid for his property by £500,000 by HS2.
At the very least everyone who has lost their home or business needs to form a class action action HS2.
Stanley Johnson got his paid in full
Did he really?
An MP was underpaid for a property we the taxpayer reimbursed him for in the first place.
All the people in the cover up need to be held to account, and jailed. This is one of the biggest crimes against the British tax payer!
cant even build a new railway line without it being bent cant this goverment doing anything straight
@@roywatson8133 yes they can, line their own pockets like all governments
And they wonder why the bottom has dropped out of public trust in our government.
they have to be held accountable,,,,,,,,,,,in the old days,they had flogging stands
Thankyou to Andrew Bruce for putting the Britsh public interests first and NOT bowing down to the corrupt criminals in charge of this project.
These people need to be arrested and charged?.
Incompetence, corruption, no transparency, no joined up thinking and no accountability - this sums up the UK today.
In Canada the GOV General spent over $117,000 on drycleaning bills alone since 2018. Imagine if there was no COVID how much she would have spent. Alex Epstein 's "FOSSIL FUTURE" on sale now. The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels. HUMAN FLOURISHING
Absurdly true
us chartered engineers have to fight this crap every day, we are so undervalued, kudos to this chap, putting his career on the line
Broken Britain, corruption always works its way down from the top, and the top is rotten to the core.
Maybe Tax payers need to push the law suite. Petition!
It's only if you lose something you can sue. If the state were forcing people to sell for less than the market value the taxpayer gains and the property owner loses, so only the property owner can sue. It's the same with all common law - the plaintiff has to endure a loss or the plaintiff does not have a case.
Petitions do as much as voting
Petition? Don't make me laugh, only one way left to change things and fix this country sadly
So important to hear this. I walked, filmed and photographed the entire route London to Birmingham in 2018 and heard stories from people who were saying many dispossessed owners of compulsorily purchased properties hadn't been paid, two years after the event. Shocking, an absolute scandal. HS2 and the government must hold their heads in shame. Nobody will ever know the true cost of this monstrous project, but I expect it will end up at £225 billion, what with all the design changes because of poor route choice and dubious engineering decisions, an amateurish learn on the job approach to fundamental principles, and a casual attitude to cost control; while CEO Mark Thurston smiles as he lovingly strokes his TBMs. What a joke
Compulsory Purchase needs to be outlawed except in times of war. It's theft. Pure and simple.
The US is $33 TRILLION in debt because the GOV cares so much about taxpayer money. Alex Epstein 's "FOSSIL FUTURE" on sale now.The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels. HUMAN FLOURISHING
They have no shame.
I know of people who were suicidal after losing their beloved properties, only to see them boarded up and not demolished to this day. Compensation only forthcoming after 3 years!. What a disgraceful company HS2 are.
I heard that too from people I met along the route@@edwardtreadwell3859
A very good picture of how many large public projects are deliberately mismanaged. If you honestly tell what the projects cost from the start, they will never get started.
This guy could be the key witness in a criminal trial. Those involved in the corruption need punishing to the full extent of the law. Keep digging Nigel- this could be almost on the scale of the de-banking scandal.
Can you describe the corruption?
I heard much about incompetence and an unwillingness for executives and ministers to hear the truth.
Displaced landowners have been under paid. Who do you think benefited financially?
I worked as a contractor for Thames Water. They were building a flood defence just north of Banbury. They intentionally low balled the contract in order to get it through and then just added on the real costs as it was being built. The South African who was tasked with costing the contract said this was the way things worked in order to get it accepted 🤑
As a South African I can see that he has transferred skills learned in SA to the UK, now that`s diversity in action...impressive...
That's been normal contracting practice for decades, in all countries. Winning bidders invariably underbid, in the expectation or hope that they can negotiate change orders to get the total price to a level they can live with.
@@stephenburnage7687 Also known as too-big-to-fail, and the sunk cost fallacy. You're a million short they remove the contract. You're a billion down, you get your money and a knighthood.
Amazing how telling the truth gets you sacked
No words to describe how furious this makes me 🤬
I know a few!
The environmental damage is a catastrophe too
11,420 properties? When there's a housing shortage? And more people coming into the country by the day, what a cracking idea that was.
Big money always means big stinks! The bigger the amounts the larger the stinks. Full marks to this man to lift the lid on it.
''TOLD YOU SO, ''THEY DELIBERATELY UNDER ESTIMATED''
Nigel, please, please can we have you as our leader. You can turn this shit show into something great again.
Lefty wont vote for improvement shout and scream like little babys
That’s why he’s backing the Reform party.
He has more power being outspoken where as a MP you work under a code of conduct.
He supports the Reform
The "establishment" will do everything to make sure never becomes PM, and in the unlikely scenario he did become PM the same "establishment" just like brexit, would do everything in their power to make sure he failed at every turn, they would destroy the job of PM for their own ends...
Good luck with this. Prepare to be disappointed.
Anyone thinks that the (REDACTED) that are responsible for this robbery will be held accountable ??? ANYONE ??
Never ,the S.N.P. have stole a huge sum from funds yet no one charged ,this is largely forgotten?
Lucky man ,, these directors of HS2 need jail time ..10years minimum ..
Is that all?
I will go to prison for keeping a billion. 10 years ???
Life sentence. Better death penalty
The thing that angers me most is right from day one, the majority of the British public didn't want this project to go ahead but the government thought they knew best and were too pig headed to listen. We were told it was all about increasing passenger capacity but this could have easily been achieved by introducing continental style double decker trains on key routes. Yes this would have been costly but still a fraction of the amount wasted on HS2.
Or add extra tracks to existing lines.
Corruption folded into a land grab. Treating taxpayers money with absolute disrespect! Custodial sentences are not enough.
This is incredible and I have no reason to believe it is not true. Farage is fair and one of the best tv interviewers in Britain.
Directors at HS2 should be arrested for theft and deception.
In California a rail system was going to be built for $3 BILLION has surpassed $100 BILLION. Is being stoped I think because politicians care about taxpayer money. Alex Epstein 's "FOSSIL FUTURE" on sale now.The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels. HUMAN FLOURISHING
If HS2 have retained electronic copies of this report and they wish to be open and transparent as they state then to prove it they could give a copy to GB News and allow this former employee to prove or disprove its content.
Anyone going to prison for this hope this man is naming names
So similar with the Scottish Ferry building....for 2 boats supposedly £70 million each to build turned into £170 million each.
No intinery to show transparency of what the monies were spent on ..oh my goodness...tax payers money !
What a shambles ....corruption running rampant in England and Scotland.
Put the two together makes £Billions of Public money utterly wasted. 😫
Those ferries were designed to run on Diesel only. Then they were redesigned to run on LNG as well. This proved very difficult and the first yard went bust leaving the Scottish Govt with a choice. Take on the project or No Ferries
I remember so well when Lloyds were taking over all the estate agents and money was supposed to be rolling and with all the other high street banks jumped on the bandwagon , ripped off everyone took everything we'd worked for and put us on the street 😢😢😮
What is the relevance?
So The Tomes reported this 3 days ago. Yet, Nothing from BBC, Guardian, Sky etc....Typical. Thank god for GBN.
Where's all the missing money !!! Also, this man has no need to lie, I believe he did shred those documents and the directors tried to cover it up.
We used to laugh at other countries having this sort of corruption. It's not so funny now.
There was never any plan to build HS2 to Leeds and Manchester it was another Londoncentric program.
They've found their scapegoats.
This needs far longer than an 8 min video
Remember HS2 is a EU project. and yet Boris gives to go ahead It doesn’t seem to matter how bad the case for HS2 is, or how terrible the performance of HS2 Ltd is, there is a collective blindness to reality which seems to dictate it has to happen at a cost £108 billion. No matter how loud the alarm bells ring.The whole thing is totally bonkers. The money could be spent on other rail projects or the NHS.
To be built on GB soil.
Please not the NHS - they waste more than enough already!
I have never been a fan of HS2 and, like millions of others, am sick of the £billions wasted. However, even I have to rethink slightly when I see all the other £billions wasted totally on Countries/Situations/Wars/Illegal Migration that benefits NOBODY in this Country. As I say, I don't like wastage, but I'd rather see part of Britain gain something from all this money debacle than nothing whatsoever from the rest.
In California a rail system was going to cost $3 BILLION. I think it surpassed $100 BILLION and has been stopped because they care so much about taxpayer money. Alex Epstein 's "FOSSIL FUTURE" on sale now.The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels. HUMAN FLOURISHING
Ok, now what are WE going to do about it?!
Straight speaking unambiguous guy.
Farge didn't handle this interview well. He was curt and impatient with this poor guy. This man is obviously nervous. All whistleblowers need to be treated with respect. Do Better!
But, sadly, he wasn't a good witness, something not quite right ; and that must have been frustrating, and would have been frustrating, for any interviewer.
I could be an HS2 lawyer with strategems and ruses
I could be an HS2 planner with lousy plans
I could be an HS2 train driver with zero reputation
I could be a super well paid cleana at HS2 Broadway Station
What a waste
What a waste
What a waste
What a waste
But I don’t mind!.
@@paulnolan1352 Rock 'n' roll don't mind Paul.
Politicians & we are the Blockheads
One of the big accountancy firms, I think it was KPMG, rubbished the project at the start but miraculously changed its mind and wrote a different report.
It has NEVER been possible for anyone to make a Business Plan for HS2.
In the early/mid noughties our big construction companies were operating at around 1% annual profits; the awarding of these contracts by successive Conservative Governments would obviously have nothing to do with Major, Cameron and the execrable Johnson receiving big bungs - all three of them urged Sunak to commit to HS2.
Yes, we live with corruption in UK Gov and its largely useless opposition parties.
Mike Livesey,
Brinscall,
Lancashire
It’s easy to make a case for HS2. The West Coast and Midland main line are congested, this will provide relief.
Of course they should have been honest about the costs, and former homeowners should get a fair price.
That wasn’t happening, but it doesn’t change the need for infrastructure investment.
@@jamescotton01 Go back to first principles. How many people need to travel several times a week from say, Greater Manchester to London? Then compare it to the number who need to travel for work, business and pleasure within the north, or people who need to be in London once a week or a couple of times a month. It requires extraordinary mental gymnastics to insist a north to south bullet train built at literally any cost, is a public transport priority.
It was a way to make money.what was that episode with the simpsons and the train ?and it fell apart.haha.hs2
@@borderlands6606 it was never at any cost. Even after all the rises it was less than £5bn per annum,
@@jamescotton01 HS2 was originally billed for £30bn and conservative estimates now suggest £100bn. Given the time frame for the whole project and rising costs, twice that amount wouldn't surprise me. The taxpayer will have so much skin in the game, that virtually any cost to finish it would be the result. I return to my original question - how many people need to travel the length of the country regularly, and at a speed that is not facilitated by conventional technology and lengthening platforms?
It’s hard to believe that anyone would be corrupt enough to shred such valuable documents
And this is the contempt that Governments show the British people ! Wasting our money & making themselves very rich in the corrupt process !! There needs to be an independent public enquiry & justice needs to be seen !!
Something needs to be done about this epidemic of undervaluing projects. Governments should prosecute companies that undervalue by large margins. We need jail terms and bankruptcies, it is simply unacceptable the waste of public funds. It is a national disgrace that the country that invented the railway, can't build one high speed line, on time and under budget in 20 years. We should be on HS5/6 by now and of course this project should have started in the North.
Odd. Didn't hear about this from the BBC.....
We didn't hear about it when he left HS2 either
Nothing will come out of this. I am still waiting for the outcome for the greenfell tower deaths and the PPE scandal(s).
The Railways Act is scandalous in itself but to use it's powers as a means for undercut values this way is a scandal.
People should go to prison for this.
So who is the new property manager who committed this crime? Name and shame and prosecute
Who are these invisible bosses? We need to know. Are due diligence and accountability smoke screens for corruption?
I don't understand how anybody couldn't be aware this whole project would be a massive financial black hole.
Basic common sense tells you this is not financially viable.
So then ask yourself why it's being pushed through.
The carrillion scandal has been erased from memory and that was the start.
Thank you so much for speaking up
First phase will cost £250 billion. Remember that when it eventually comes out.
Bit blunt shutting the poor guy down like that.
The main purpose of HS2 was always to increase our borrowing requirement, and with it the interest payments on trans-generational national debt. The lockdown fiasco and the need to restock our armed forces after giving all their kit away to Ukraine made it surplus to requirement.
Interesting
I really, really wish I could have made a bet that this was going to happen. It was totally predictable from the start.
With the big winners being the consultants like this guy making VERY big money to such an extent they will never have to work again.
And all for a handful of minutes in time saving, easily lost on the many breakdowns or strikes seen on the Tube.😮
Fascinating allegations. All too believable. Even the southern section of HS2 should be stopped. It's a total waste of your money and mine.
Not a hope in hell that anything will be done about this scandal. Face saving all round.
Many people getting fat on the back of this HS2 debacle but not the original owners of the land. Surprised??
if as "they" claim, an electronic copy of this report exists, rebuffing the claim that it was shredded! - Then a freedom of information request should be made for the electronic copy. They have to comply as they are taxpayer funded, and under the juristiction of the ICO.
And that was the end of that. There's nothing to be heard again..
HS2 was always a vanity project. The Millennium Dome on steroids.
HS2 has an absolutely valid purpose. Vanity projects, and the millenium dome, do not!
@@amateurcameraman It has a purpose, but not a valid or proportionate one. Even on its own terms, there are far better ways of spending money on public transport. From the beginning I said HS2 served two purposes. First to turn the West Midlands into commutable "Home Counties", because the existing ones are "full", secondly, on the basis that big infrastructure projects "create" wealth. The first has dubious merit, the second is fantasy at best and an open door to corruption.
I wonder how much money it will cost for us to pay HS2 limited to investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing? Will it be a couple of million - keep it on the cheap, or will it be like the Leveson enquiry and cost multiple millions?
Criminals on government and people need have them cleared out, jail
ALL TO SAVE 20 MINUTES
ON A TRAIN JOURNEY
Then in Winter the train will not be allowed to travel at full speed.
criminal charges should be brought
To many executives and senior executives this country is finished
Ripoff Britain!
...and we haven't even got to migration, foreign aid or the Coof.
While shitting in our mouths at the same time.
Now then, now then!@@davey1602
This is one decision to stop HS2 has been Sunak’s best decision so far!
Sunak didn't explain, why he stopped. And, everyone blame him. Now, he is a good guy ?
Prison!.Same problem with Cross Rail.
I was not a re-possession of houses as these were either paid for or still on non-defaulted mortgages.
It was a land grab, pure and simple, we should have let the Japanese build this HSR as it would have been done on budget and finished by now.
We in this country can't build anything anymore. Why does it cost millions of pounds to write a report?
Absolutely, why does a rail comp without a complete rail line or even a first train run a pr department given 10 m a year since day one , that’s just the tip of the miss spending , the line was from day 1 deliberately bided below to prevent maglev from being used , the costs for property deliberately underbid and fixed the costs surveyed into a Ponzi scheme, a full enquiry is needed about this especially under labour if they win to prevent them continuing misspending with the money
Well done Andrew....
Military contracts have been like this for decades, always over budget, they still are. Someone is ripping off the taxpayer on a massive scale, a d no one checks or challenges it.
Military procurement is a disgrace.
They charge lads £200 for a pair of £100 boots.
Every item of kit from the housewife kit to helmet and rifle is twice what it would cost to buy it privately.
They've been raking it in for 300 years .
No doubt now I will be taken offline for being honest but hey my word is coming across babies I`m 68 for
god sake and seen more than enough of the distruction of our county
Corruption but nothing will happen as politicians will not want it to be investigated and plod will find it too difficult to investigate. Everyone involved should be jailed.
I worked on hs2 for 2 years.
I used to walk around with my jaw on floor at the things i saw.
The quote i kept hearing was.......
"its a liscense to print money, boy!
Boris Johnson was the man who gave the go ahead head for HS 2. Therefore it stinks of his type of deceit.
He was given incorrect information from HS2 !
This is madness and shameful
Woow...bloody.. banksters ...perfect interview..thank you gentlemen....
It is just the way it works in the UK .
They said that the super fast Train would reach to Manchester and Leeds however, that is what is known as “ bait and switch” …..they get to agree to it, build half of it and then tell us the truth knowing we cannot pull the plug.
I was opposed to this farce from the start as i wanted to see a cheaper Express Electrified Line from London-Birminham-Manchester -Leeds ……..we have been fooled yet again !
This happens in every boardroom in every company in every part of the world 🤔
Another one.lessons are never learned.if it was a jobseeker getting an extra weeks universal credit they’d kick up a stink
Why dont i ever get any of this government money.
Im in the wrong job.
It's not government money, it's taxpayer money.
I got the sum total of fuck all during the covid era.
Way to honest I guess.
£4.8 billion required, whilst only £2.8 billion budgeted.
Usual error by civil service incompetents, or deliberate deception by ministers?
This is an insight into how quangos operate!
Now what will government do with all that land? Sell it to developers to build m i g r a n t houses for instance? Or maybe keep it in case a railway track can be constructed in future?
NatWest must be involved in this why else would they attack farage they need investigating
Oh and we have plenty of cash for housing foreign military aged males in four star hotels.
Billions. Nothing will be done, no-one will be held to account.
Try driving without paying car duty/road tax!
Also, the wages that contractors are able to pay employees like digger operators are massive compared to anything that they will be able to get anywhere else in the country. So if people at that end are coining it in, what are the fat cats getting?
This is the reason why China is so successful in it's rapid deployment of nationwide high speed rail. No private property rights, no problemo!
The undervaluation of the properties explains why the ex residents are so shocked at the buy back costs they’ve been offered their properties back for now the project is cancelled.
Get these cnuts in Court - and then in nick. I've worked on the project with facilities providing - and I could see the elephant in the room even back then. Blair and Doris Johnson should have NO public MP pensions because of this - in fact, I'd look at ALL the MP's pensions who voted for this EU folly.
The shredder was made of glass, that's how transparent we are!
I agree it can sometimes be career damaging to put your head above the parapet. A culture of speaking up is encouraged around health and safety, but maybe more needs to be done around challenging decisions around value for money. There is often a lot of group think on these programmes, that’s why the IPA do independent reviews. More robust assurance is needed I feel.
I worked in construction and this is what its like all fhe way from the ceo to the lad sweeping up.