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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
  • HS2 invited us down to the site of Old Oak Common station - the new mega interchange station out in West London, to see the station Box - where the platforms will be - which is now well under way in terms of construction.
    Londonists Matt Brown has photos and an article here : londonist.com/...
    Thanks to HS2 for the additional images and Drone footage.

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  • @geofftech2
    @geofftech2  10 месяцев назад +237

    I even managed to put my gloves on the right way round this time! 😂

  • @hendrikharryg
    @hendrikharryg 10 месяцев назад +168

    I love Hwu! He is one of the most knowledgeable construction persons that I have seen on Camera. He can just talk and talk, and you never lose interest or attention. I hope he will stay available as a communicator for the HS2 Projects he is assigned to.

    • @ijmad
      @ijmad 10 месяцев назад +5

      Absolutely, can see why they decided to put him on camera! Really informative.

    • @daroldcarold3443
      @daroldcarold3443 10 месяцев назад +1

      *h w u*

    • @47222
      @47222 10 месяцев назад +2

      Why doesn’t half big it up to what is a white elephant won’t reach the north and doesn’t even go in to central London waste of tax payers money. Sorry about the rant Geoff as loved your vids for years and nothing against you or your channel keep up the good work

    • @k.r.baylor8825
      @k.r.baylor8825 10 месяцев назад +9

      Huw has such a punchy, to-the-point method of delivery. Very effective, very authoritative, you know he is an expert once he finishes his sentence. He is a terrific spokesman for HS2 and Network Rail.
      Update: I'm in the States, so I did not know Huw was a former BBC news presenter with years of broadcast training and experience. He seems happier in this job, too. Talking about construction will do that to a media person who likes being around things being built. (Plus, network news can be soul-sucking; been in the industry myself, done that, glad to be gone.) All makes sense now; he's a great hire for the p.r. aspects of HS2. Well done, Network Rail.

    • @PianoKwanMan
      @PianoKwanMan 10 месяцев назад +15

      @@k.r.baylor8825 He's a different Huw Edwards. This one has cool hair.

  • @mdhazeldine
    @mdhazeldine 10 месяцев назад +208

    With all the depressing news about HS2 cuts, it's encouraging to see that SOMEthing is still getting built and that it'll be really good. I'm hoping that it'll be as good as the Lizzie line, and then people will badger the government to re-think their stupid plans to scrap the northern legs.

    • @DS9TREK
      @DS9TREK 10 месяцев назад +5

      It's not stupid to scrap a waste of money. They should've scrapped HS2 completely

    • @mdhazeldine
      @mdhazeldine 10 месяцев назад +53

      @@DS9TREK It wouldn't have been a waste of money if they'd stuck to the original plan and if there wasn't poor planning and corruption involved.

    • @regulate.artificer_g23.mdctlsk
      @regulate.artificer_g23.mdctlsk 10 месяцев назад +20

      The corrupt government sold off the ROWs of HS2 and essentially made sure to make it difficult to rework/reboot the project such as this.

    • @sydnorth5868
      @sydnorth5868 10 месяцев назад +37

      @@DS9TREKThere's no better way of wasting money than scrapping something that you've half built. The next best way of wasting money is failing to build the bit that makes the bit you have built really useful!

    • @mdhazeldine
      @mdhazeldine 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@sydnorth5868 precisely

  • @LouisOnAir
    @LouisOnAir 10 месяцев назад +182

    The chat about lowering the road to admit double decker buses reminds me of how good and seamless transport projects can be when the government and planners allow them to be

    • @davidfalconer8913
      @davidfalconer8913 10 месяцев назад

      YEP ! some US railroad bridges only allow the smallest automobiles ( ! ) ...... DAVE™🛑

    • @liamness
      @liamness 10 месяцев назад +19

      Hopefully when the road is lowered, the pavement is left flat. Too often you see under rail lines the pavement follows the road into a dip, when obviously there is no need to have tall clearances on a pavement, and it can add a lot of unnecessary difficulty to e.g. wheelchair users or someone needing to push a buggy.

    • @jonevansauthor
      @jonevansauthor 10 месяцев назад

      @@davidfalconer8913 well, the bridge has probably been there 150 years and we've had double deckers for about a century so they've managed to do it quite quickly. Yeah. The US isn't always doing worse than us on rail.

    • @gavinjamie
      @gavinjamie 10 месяцев назад +3

      Hopefully goes a bit more smoothly than the road lowering under the railway on Botley Road in Oxford. Road is closed for 18 months as they kept finding more things under the bridge!

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@gavinjamieI’d heard it was closed but wasn’t sure why! Funny, as I was also thinking of it as a great example for one where the pavement doesn’t dip anywhere near as much as the road - but that was in the old form!

  • @paulhoughton5266
    @paulhoughton5266 10 месяцев назад +10

    I wish more people could view these films as gives a lot of context as to why these projects become so expensive. For example, let's lower the road under a bridge, looks straight forward on paper. However there are then multiple utilities under that road that then have to isolated and rerouted. So much in construction that Joe public does not see.

  • @martinbeaumont1135
    @martinbeaumont1135 10 месяцев назад +8

    These are the videos that Geoff does the best IMHO - top work!

  • @Garethness
    @Garethness 10 месяцев назад +21

    Huw is an excellent spokesperson. Good video, Geoff.

  • @CalicoAidan
    @CalicoAidan 10 месяцев назад +85

    It's great to see work is still progressing here, I know you don't touch the politics (given the state of political discourse on the internet, with good reason) but it's very disappointing to see how badly everything other than Brum to Old Oak has progressed, hopefully a day will come when you can hop on a high speed train at Euston and walk off at Mcr Picc (or, dare I say it, Leeds 😅).

    • @geofftech2
      @geofftech2  10 месяцев назад +106

      i avoid the politics very much, yes! couldn't not ask about Euston though. i am still hoping that in the future ( but probbably not in my lifetime tbh ) that HS2 will go beyond Birmingham, the country deserves decent infrastructure.

    • @sabrinamurray
      @sabrinamurray 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​​​@@geofftech2I agree we do ss someone that was waiting for hs4 to be completed to get faster trains its very disappointing for the north to be neglected yet again

    • @rjjcms1
      @rjjcms1 10 месяцев назад +11

      Yes,if they're going to pour such immense amounts of public money into the project,they've got to do it right. There's no point in spending so much on something that at the end of it falls short the purpose it's meant to serve.

    • @sabrinamurray
      @sabrinamurray 10 месяцев назад +1

      @rjjcms1 the problem its already happened the line won't be finished because the starting section ended up overbudget

    • @DavidKnowles0
      @DavidKnowles0 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@geofftech2 I think the Tunnels will be done because they are relatively cheap. Whether their a station waiting for those tunnels who knows at this point. I think common sense means the tunnels have to start in 2026 or otherwise to much of the infrastructure, like casting the tunnel segments will start to be dismantle because of lack of work. `

  • @zzzaphod8507
    @zzzaphod8507 10 месяцев назад +23

    Interesting video as always, Geoff! Thanks. Glad you didn't spend too much time covering the bit about making the holes for the tunnels, as some might consider it boring

    • @thesolorunner9313
      @thesolorunner9313 10 месяцев назад +6

      😂😂

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for finding some humour in what for practically all of the UK, is £££££££££££££££££ pain without gain. Unless you're a consultant or engineering contractor. BTW, sorry if there aren't enough £-symbols there

  • @joemfb01
    @joemfb01 10 месяцев назад +44

    Nothing like a winter Geoff Marshall video.
    Well there's nothing like a Geoff Marshall video. Always give you a warm feeling!
    Even if we're lightyears away from HS2

  • @JamesMellon-AviaColour
    @JamesMellon-AviaColour 10 месяцев назад +34

    New drinking game: Drink a shot every time someone in this video says 'Box'...

  • @igdblack
    @igdblack 10 месяцев назад +4

    I had the pleasure of working with Huw on the London Overground, a great ambassador for Railways!

  • @galaxy98765
    @galaxy98765 10 месяцев назад +9

    I like the man at the end of the video who tells us to press like, comment and subscribe. He's great!

  • @DanLoudShirts
    @DanLoudShirts 10 месяцев назад +25

    Very informative and showed the scale of the project really well. Shame about the weather. Very informative guides on site too. I know its a controversial topic and some in the comments will be banging on about waste of money etc, but this is exactly what they said about the Elizabeth Line and look how amazing that turned out to be.

    • @Nooticus
      @Nooticus 10 месяцев назад

      Dan W

  • @robinbebbington7004
    @robinbebbington7004 10 месяцев назад +4

    Great video! I’m very much looking forward to that station opening! It’ll be epic! Thanks for showing us the station, progress looks promising!

  • @robertstorey7476
    @robertstorey7476 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great video. Its fascinating to hear the guys involved explain what they are doing, they make it so much easier to understand.

  • @DeathInTheSnow
    @DeathInTheSnow 10 месяцев назад +13

    I hope when they lower the road under the bridge that they add a pavement on the other side, add a double cycle lane to both, and keep them at the same height. No need to lower the pedestrian/cycle part just because buses/cars can't fit.

  • @DarthCoco
    @DarthCoco 10 месяцев назад +2

    Definitely appreciate having this insight! There is so much I just haven't known about Old Oak Common station, and since it's burden responsibility for HS2, I really hope the development is a met success. I really should try vising the site from outside, overtime. It feels like a London Train-network project like no other. Hope to see more updates from you Geoff! Will definitely want to be there for it's opening day!

  • @gh1851
    @gh1851 10 месяцев назад +7

    I go past Old Oak Common many times on journeys from my home of Oxford to Paddington, Geoff.
    An excellent rainy video, sir.

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад

      You'll be able to admire the white elephant in future, then

  • @shaunwest3612
    @shaunwest3612 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great video Geoff, incredible engineering 👌👍

  • @TheSynthnut
    @TheSynthnut 10 месяцев назад +20

    Wow, all this for the Birmingham shuttle service!
    Some serious engineering goimg on for sure and love those telescopic Hitachi machines. The ZX350's have a dig depth of about 28m or nearly 92 feet. Previously a crane with a skip or kibble was used for shaft sinking. Digging out a box would probably entail track loaders filling tippers via a haul road, sonthis is all very streamlined here!

    • @john1703
      @john1703 10 месяцев назад

      Exactly your first sentence. However, until (if) HS2 gets to Euston, it will be quicker to go from there to New Street on the WCML. Not this side of 2030. So much for levelling-up for the North.

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 месяцев назад +5

      No it is not as trains will still go to Manchester on HS2 as far as Litchfield here they will join the WCML to Manchester

    • @railotaku
      @railotaku 10 месяцев назад +3

      Yes, it's probably best for them to finish OOC as planned, changing the design/spec at this stage of the build would be problematic

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 месяцев назад

      @@railotaku It is not planned to terminate OOC as there are no facilities to terminate trains there.

    • @Mgameing123
      @Mgameing123 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@peterwilliamallen1063 It will temporarily teminate at OOC until Euston is finished but not even Euston is worth it anymore as Rishi just watered down the project with fewer platforms which is VERY short term thinking.

  • @twyfordlion
    @twyfordlion 10 месяцев назад +1

    Impressed with Huw from HS2, knows his stuff.

  • @JohnJoseph-xw5zk
    @JohnJoseph-xw5zk 10 месяцев назад +4

    Hi Geoff, perhaps a lens hood will help to keep the rain of your lens. That's if you haven't already done so. Excellent work as usual by the way.

  • @danwooller6101
    @danwooller6101 10 месяцев назад +4

    Tell Huw he needs his own RUclips channel, he's a great communicator.

    • @geofftech2
      @geofftech2  10 месяцев назад +1

      he appears in several videos on the official HS2 channel!

  • @simonmcowan6874
    @simonmcowan6874 10 месяцев назад +7

    All very impressive, but with recent shenanigans regarding the various cancelled destinations, it's sort of looking much too big for the reduced service now instead of the grand plans it was all originally planned for.

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 10 месяцев назад +2

      My guess is it will be most useful as an Elizabeth Line hub, replacing Paddington’s current role

  • @equaltoreality8028
    @equaltoreality8028 10 месяцев назад +4

    It's nice seeing the construction of Britian's newest London terminus, if it ever gets put into service.

  • @guillaumemaurice3503
    @guillaumemaurice3503 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for sharing this video Geoff that was very interesting with great information. ❤

  • @QPRTokyo
    @QPRTokyo 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you . Another great video.😀

  • @Stevedean-c4d
    @Stevedean-c4d 10 месяцев назад +2

    New Geoff Marshall, Colin furze and Simon wilson videos uploaded in the same day…happy days

  • @LukeE94
    @LukeE94 10 месяцев назад

    I had the pleasure of Hosting Huw today at my axes lanes in Colchester, Essex.
    Turns out we have the same motorbike instructor!
    Best of luck in the future and us here at Game of Throwing look forward to your return!

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад

      Looking at the monumental pointlessness of HS2 *NOW*, maybe Huw's banking on motorbikes is voting with his feet/££££ from POV of wisdom

  • @Nooticus
    @Nooticus 10 месяцев назад +4

    Amazing video Geoff, as always. These are your best. Huw is absolutely great. It's beyond dissapointing that on top of the Northern sections past Birmingham being cancelled, the section to Euston is being 'delayed'... I hope it all does end up happening.
    Though to be honest, I personally believe the worst HS2 loss for London is that the North London Line (Overground) won't have a station at Old Oak Common, meaning that it'll be far far harder for residents of both North and South London to access HS2. You probably should've mentioned this aspect Geoff.

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад

      I can imagine why Geoff the LS2 Enthusiast didn't mention that.

    • @Nooticus
      @Nooticus 10 месяцев назад

      @@daffyduk77 shut up, please do.

    • @RR-yj9yy
      @RR-yj9yy 8 месяцев назад

      Is it now confirmed the West London Orbital is not happening? I thought it was still a potential that it was going to happen.

    • @Nooticus
      @Nooticus 8 месяцев назад

      @@RR-yj9yy i dont think the proposals ever got very far

    • @RR-yj9yy
      @RR-yj9yy 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Nooticus I read that decision is due early 2024, so I think Old Oak Common Lane overground still in the frame currently, and would make sense especially now that HS2 will terminate at Old Oak Station for 10 years/forever.

  • @Anonymoususer_8823
    @Anonymoususer_8823 10 месяцев назад +4

    I would like to see what Old Oak Common HS2 station will look like once it’s completed. And not forgetting Hythe Road and Old Oak Common Lane stations to be built. Which would add a connection between London Overground, HS2, GWR and Elizabeth Line. Such a shame that HS2 isn’t going to expand to Manchester and the North of England. As it’s costing too much money.

    • @jakehowie442
      @jakehowie442 10 месяцев назад +2

      It should’ve started in the north of England it’s just another London project to Birmingham, which on paper is actually less influential than Manchester both in terms of GDP and train and air passenger traffic via Manchester airport, 3rd busiest airport in UK, busiest outside London metro

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад +1

      It's become an indulgence to prove we can build them like the French, but without any economic & practical justification

    • @Anonymoususer_8823
      @Anonymoususer_8823 10 месяцев назад

      ⁠True.

    • @gregjalepeno6769
      @gregjalepeno6769 10 месяцев назад

      @@daffyduk77What a load of ****, the core trunk network is reaching capacity, growing freight traffic and local services is impossible because unlike most modern nations we did not segregate our passenger inter-city traffic from freight in the post-war years believing foolishly instead that the road network and aviation industry would save us. Rail traffic has been growing for decades now, this is nothing to do with "the French". Would love to hear you solution about solving the rail network capacity issue and why you wouldnt build to the international guage standard or try to build in a straight a line as possible!!!!!

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад

      @@gregjalepeno6769 No doubt the Rail buffs can put me straight on this one, I thought the UK invented 4ft 8 1/2 & that's what we & they use in the EU etc but no doubt there's more to it than that. I was never advocating reverting to GWR Broad Gauge or anything like that. there are numerous reasons why HS2 has gone into the buffers IMO, & a straighter line might have been do-able before Ernest Marples & the RHF-lobby in the 50s had made Britain so road-oriented. I think, being 1st in the rail game made us more fossilised re: inability to build a network with future expansion potential. The power of local competing interests have militated against double-decker trains (bridge sizes & pre-existing structures etc). I suspect technological fixes are possible re: signalling/safety systems to enable higher/greater throughput on existing track, costing less than £100 billion perhaps

  • @DigitalNomadOnFIRE
    @DigitalNomadOnFIRE 9 месяцев назад

    WOW HS2 is really happening. Some great auditing has been done at a few of these sites too

  • @andrewhotston983
    @andrewhotston983 10 месяцев назад +1

    I remember when a station box controlled the points and signals. Every station had one.

    • @davethatcher4954
      @davethatcher4954 10 месяцев назад +1

      Lol....which is exactly what I did when I was a signalman on B R...Crystal Palace, Hayes (Kent), Leigham Junction and Twickenham West Junction Box

  • @glenharrison987
    @glenharrison987 10 месяцев назад +3

    All above London as usual and by the time you have got from burnt oak to central London you might as well have just used the existing service

  • @neilonaniet
    @neilonaniet 10 месяцев назад +2

    I remember when you could drive HSTs over the top of all that mess 🙂

  • @aDifferentJT
    @aDifferentJT 10 месяцев назад

    I love looking at it every time I go along the Elizabeth Line west of Paddington

  • @McRailss
    @McRailss 10 месяцев назад +2

    Very exciting to see, love the videos, Geoff keep it up!

  • @8492946able
    @8492946able 10 месяцев назад +4

    HS2 must be fully built from Euston to Manchester and Leeds

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck 10 месяцев назад

    Looks great. I thinking of the first Noddy book and he and Big Ears are building his house. Noddy tells Big Ears, Let's put on the roof first, that way if it rains we won't get wet. I guess they took Noddy's advice and did it after all.

  • @MarkStamp-o6p
    @MarkStamp-o6p 10 месяцев назад +4

    I'm sure it will be a magnificent terminus station to rival the Victorian greats of Paddington, St Pancras etc. It's just a shame it's going to be a terminus in a place that no one wants to get to

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 месяцев назад +1

      OOC is not a terminal station it is being constructed as a through station and Euston will be the terminus.

    • @MarkStamp-o6p
      @MarkStamp-o6p 10 месяцев назад

      Only if private funding is found. Note the bit in the video where they commit to putting the TBMs in the ground before finishing the station but make no commitment to actually start building the tunnel to Euston

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 месяцев назад

      @@MarkStamp-o6p Sorry I disagree, the Government is leading people on, for example the Prime minister stated that he is cancelling the HS2 line to Manchester, result every one thinks that the HS2 line and trains will not go past Birmingham, incorrect as the HS2 line is being built North from Birmingham to Lichfield where the HS2 line will be connected to the existing WCML for trains to travel on to Manchester, next OOC is being built as a through station with no facilities to terminate trains so they can lay over between services, it is only being built for trains to stop at and allow passengers off and then carry on . The TBM's are still going to construct the tunnels from OOC to Euston as once OOC is open this work would not be able to be carried on plus Euston is now being built with 6 instead of 11 platforms with a 7th platform for duel use of HS2 trains and WCML trains, every one reads the national anti HS2 papers, if you read Railway Periodicals you would see the correct idea of things

  • @jxh02
    @jxh02 10 месяцев назад +2

    "We'd start at Paddington and finish at Swindon." LOL He's not wrong...

  • @michaelkinsella1559
    @michaelkinsella1559 10 месяцев назад +2

    As someone who lives in Scotland, any news about HS2 just makes me sad as unlike to see any direct benefit to the trips I do to London. Such a same it’s been cut back to just a south England project.

    • @weststandgas
      @weststandgas 10 месяцев назад +1

      Just a London project. No benefit to most other places

    • @gavin1342
      @gavin1342 10 месяцев назад

      There will be fewer services to Birmingham in your way. Not a huge benefit I agree.
      Will any Glasgow/Edinburgh services be certified to run on the new line? It seems logical that they will.
      But I agree that Scotland deserves better.

  • @femboichik
    @femboichik 10 месяцев назад +4

    It's a huge shame that HS2 isn't coming to Euston

    • @railotaku
      @railotaku 10 месяцев назад +2

      it's currently 50/50 - even within upper government they are arguing over it.

  • @misterhoeflak
    @misterhoeflak 10 месяцев назад

    Great video Geoff. And Hugh is awesome! 😄

  • @billoddy5637
    @billoddy5637 8 месяцев назад +1

    Once Euston is upgraded, Old Oak Common will see about as much usage as Stratford International

  • @TrevorWilliams-fq8mg
    @TrevorWilliams-fq8mg 9 месяцев назад

    You can easily see why the cost went from a 32 billion budget assessment to 100 billion and still rising. The 32 billion estimate was a 2 line estimate comprising 200 miles x £x million a mile plus 24% contingency equals 32 billion. But the detail has bridge lowering, bridge raising, unforeseen ground conditions, thousands of highway alterations, thousands of planning conditions equals 100 billion plus. And the contracts for the track and trains are currently out to tender so the cost for these items are unknown (my estimate 150 billion plus)

  • @CloudmasterGaming
    @CloudmasterGaming 10 месяцев назад +3

    HS2 has been making a lot of progress this year and I am starting to gain hope again, hopefully hs2 Won't be too long and wont turn into another Crossrail thing where it gets delayed and delayed (although it already has)

  • @peterwaugh9416
    @peterwaugh9416 10 месяцев назад +2

    "When we get more funding" Should be taken as "IF" we get more funding.

  • @SuperDoetinchem
    @SuperDoetinchem 10 месяцев назад +1

    Well I think interchange is ambitieus, this will probably be the Terminus for the next 100years

  • @johnwright3075
    @johnwright3075 10 месяцев назад +2

    Nice work going on just tragic it’s always down south

  • @MichaelHoward-m8e
    @MichaelHoward-m8e 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great video to show off the magnitude of the project. After the station opens would you be able to do a video showing both the construction scene and the in-service condition (such as a before and after)?

  • @Bigjonathan283
    @Bigjonathan283 10 месяцев назад +3

    I still love hs2

  • @tommywoodland1295
    @tommywoodland1295 10 месяцев назад +5

    Geoff Marshall I like all of your videos

  • @noahbowie5985
    @noahbowie5985 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hard to think of it as much of a superhub anymore when it will only really serve trains to Birmingham now. An interchange feels a lot more appropriate.

    • @Mgameing123
      @Mgameing123 10 месяцев назад +1

      No trians will still continue beyond but only on existing lines

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад

      yeah. And Curzon Street. WTF

  • @richhowe7193
    @richhowe7193 10 месяцев назад +4

    The machine that you called a soil grabber is called a chameleon, it’s made by Hitachi

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад

      At least the Japanese will get some benefit from this exercise in burning money

  • @Need1738
    @Need1738 9 месяцев назад

    Looks pretty new to me

  • @jamestaylor6760
    @jamestaylor6760 10 месяцев назад +2

    Hi Geoff, I have 2 potential topics of debate for you:
    1) When HS2 reaches Euston Station, do you think TFL will consider extending more underground lines to Euston to meet the extra demand, or will they just make HS2 passengers use the already rammed Northern and Victoria lines?
    2) When Old Oak Common station finally opens, do you think TFL may think about extending underground lines to the station, for example the Central, District or Piccadilly lines that already serve west London? Or possibly build a bus station there? Or even both? Having said that though, they might not extend the Piccadilly line because that already goes to Heathrow Airport.
    I'd be interested to know what your thoughts are on these matters 😀

    • @jakehowie442
      @jakehowie442 10 месяцев назад +4

      Euston is one of the worst underground stations and stations in general it’s a nightmare getting on the northern line that branches out

    • @markcf83
      @markcf83 10 месяцев назад +3

      They've said there'll be a connection to the Elizabeth line at OOC. I reckon there'll be a station to serve the North London line too......

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад

      @@markcf83 Wow, that simple change will transform the case for this whole white elephant. NOT.

  • @bullettube9863
    @bullettube9863 10 месяцев назад +11

    It's sad to think that the station will never see 250k passengers every day as the HS2 project continue to shrink to the point that trains will have no where to go except out to a dead end and back to the station. One train a day to Birmingham? That's very possible!

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 месяцев назад

      HS2 will run into Euston and the line is being constructed as far as Lichfield in Staffordshire where the HS2 line will join the WCML allowing HS2 trains to travel to Manchester and Scotland via the WCML and Avanti West Coast train will be transferred from running on the WCML in most cases to operate on the HS2 line so there will be more than one train a day to Birmingham

    • @jamesharris5707
      @jamesharris5707 10 месяцев назад

      There's a new government coming in. I'd take a rain check on what the exact final fate of the project will be, for good or ill

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 месяцев назад

      @@jamesharris5707 Doesn't matter who is in charge HS2 is to far gone to be cancelled, Euston will go ahead and the only bit cancelled is the high speed line from Lichfield to Manchester

    • @gregjalepeno6769
      @gregjalepeno6769 10 месяцев назад

      @@peterwilliamallen1063 yeah HS2 trains that will now be shorter (platform length means the HS2 trains have to be split awkwardly) and slower (because they wont be tilting) on legacy track than current West Coast Line trains. What a brilliant plan by Rishi!

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 месяцев назад

      @@gregjalepeno6769 I does not matter how long the HS2 trains are, on the HS2 section they still will do 225 MPH and the Trains from Birmingham will be full length, plus no one has said longer platforms will not be built at Manchester Piccadilly plus as they will not stop between Manchester and Birmingham Interchange there is no reason if the increase platform lengths ayt Manchester that these trains will have to split.
      The sped f these trains on the WCML as far as Crewe is concerned is debatable as the only trains on the WCML restricted to 110 MPH are the LNWR electric multiple units and there are no curves between Lichfield and Crewe that would restrict these trains on this section of the West Coast mainline and Inter City 125 Diesel units have been doing 125MPH for 50 years on normal track all over the country, and the Pendolino trains are the only trains in the UK that can tilt and that was so Virgin trains could up the speed of their trains on the tight curvature North of Crewe and south of Rugby, no one has predicted this speed and as usual one person puts their view over and every an and his dog believes it

  • @richcolour
    @richcolour 10 месяцев назад

    Ahh, brings back memories of the Legends of the Great Western day in 2017. The size of the queue to get in 😮

  • @daniel_dsouza_
    @daniel_dsouza_ 10 месяцев назад +2

    Lets hope Old Oak common will not turn into another Bank/monument.... 🤞🤞

  • @clintonepps3666
    @clintonepps3666 10 месяцев назад

    they know your channel well when they say subscribe like comment for you

  • @MythTrainProductions
    @MythTrainProductions 10 месяцев назад +2

    @Geoff Marshall - I live very close to where you were! What I'm hoping is they extend the bus routes at the East Acton terminus to Old Oak Common. That would be super convenient! I doubt that TfL would ever run double decker buses on the 228 since it is never busy when I'm on it. However, they will likely extend the buses from East Acton! I hope... 😅

    • @Mgameing123
      @Mgameing123 10 месяцев назад +1

      When do you ride the bus? And also don't you think it will get more busy when OOC will open.

    • @liamness
      @liamness 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Mgameing123 Plus there's going to be a ton of new development around the station in the coming decades, the area around the station is going to become essentially a big new town centre with thousands of new homes

    • @MythTrainProductions
      @MythTrainProductions 10 месяцев назад

      @@Mgameing123 OMG, of course, but I've never really seen it that busy. When it does open, all the buses from East Acton will probably cover that though.

    • @Mgameing123
      @Mgameing123 10 месяцев назад

      @@MythTrainProductions It will still get this single decker bus route to have higher demand.

    • @Mgameing123
      @Mgameing123 10 месяцев назад

      @@liamness Thats amazing. I can imagine living there. I think OOC will become part of Central London as the area would have very high demand to live there.

  • @HyperFlex924
    @HyperFlex924 10 месяцев назад +2

    can you do a recap on what is happen with hs2

  • @brandon_downes
    @brandon_downes 10 месяцев назад +2

    Surely this wont also get cancelled

  • @customtransport2777
    @customtransport2777 10 месяцев назад +8

    It's still a massive shame that HS2 will not be extended to Manchester 😢

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 месяцев назад +3

      But HS2 trains will still go to Manchester by joining the WCML at Litchfield

    • @dereham1
      @dereham1 10 месяцев назад

      Lichfield?@@peterwilliamallen1063

    • @equaltoreality8028
      @equaltoreality8028 10 месяцев назад

      It only made financial sense by going up that far.

  • @graemecatty9921
    @graemecatty9921 10 месяцев назад +5

    A lot of infrastructure for a fast train to and from London to Birmingham.

    • @TheHobohobbit
      @TheHobohobbit 10 месяцев назад +4

      had it not been cancelled it would have gone to a few more places and with some forward planning it could have integrated into HS1 for international use and in the future a potential HS3 to cover more of the country

    • @mofomat
      @mofomat 10 месяцев назад +2

      And even though phase 2 has been cancelled, trains from north of Birmingham will still use this section of HS2.

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 месяцев назад

      @@TheHobohobbit There is no reason for HS2 to connect to HS1 at all

    • @HarrowwInk
      @HarrowwInk 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@peterwilliamallen1063apart from a more direct link to st. pancras international?? (even tho you can take the tube to kings cross st pancras via euston via northern & victoria lines)

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 месяцев назад

      @@HarrowwInk But as of present no one using the HS2 trains will need to go to the continent, not many passengers on the existing WCML into Euston which HS2is replacing actually travel on Eurostar to the continent, they fly from Birmingham or Manchester Airports.

  • @jacksonmacmanus1001
    @jacksonmacmanus1001 10 месяцев назад +1

    what about the overground? it sits between 2 overground branches, will it serve them?

  • @englishmaninmarktredwitz2228
    @englishmaninmarktredwitz2228 10 месяцев назад

    The UK is building great rail infrastructure and has great rolling stock. The next challenge is run all the trains on the timetable to time with minimal cancellations. TPE’s answer is to remove lots of trains from the timetable so they can reduce cancellations!

  • @xbx.trains2192
    @xbx.trains2192 10 месяцев назад +2

    With all of these cancellations, HS2 is going to have huge stations with hardly any services

  • @pureheartx3576
    @pureheartx3576 10 месяцев назад +2

    1:51 heard that name before

  • @SnaccDaddyy
    @SnaccDaddyy 10 месяцев назад

    Great video as always, god I hope it gets all the way into the city though, otherwise it really is just an expensive way to get somewhere in the same amount of time.

  • @RichardWatt
    @RichardWatt 10 месяцев назад +3

    When Matt says "the alien", he means the Xenomorph.

    • @6yjjk
      @6yjjk 10 месяцев назад

      It's a bug hunt...

    • @blairleipst4508
      @blairleipst4508 10 месяцев назад

      Or a Black Dragonfish

  • @domramsey
    @domramsey 10 месяцев назад +4

    They're going to wait until it's 90% done, then cancel it, aren't they?

    • @FateBoost
      @FateBoost 10 месяцев назад

      You seen how stubborn the government is. Look at Horizon (post office scandal) - they forced it out despite been totally unsuitable as they didn’t want to put more money into fixing the numerous bugs.

  • @hens0w
    @hens0w 10 месяцев назад +1

    the terminus of the Acton to Solihull railway
    Sorry Geoff I would like to feel enthusiastic but its hard with the project so scaled back

  • @katrinabryce
    @katrinabryce 10 месяцев назад +6

    4:30 by my maths, it is equivalent to a 15 storey building 🤪
    Are there any plans for a link to the Overground?

    • @jackitlondon
      @jackitlondon 10 месяцев назад +1

      No. The new overground station nearby is unfunded. Need to walk to Willesden junction

    • @popmonika
      @popmonika 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@jackitlondonfrom what I know they are.

    • @englishciderlover7347
      @englishciderlover7347 10 месяцев назад +1

      Hythe Road and Old Oak Common Lane stations are proposed for the Overground and will be close to Old Oak Common.

  • @alexisdespland4939
    @alexisdespland4939 10 месяцев назад +1

    why isn't the districy line being extended north forom kensington olypi to meet hs2 at old oak common.

  • @saintofselhurst
    @saintofselhurst 10 месяцев назад

    Huw has amazing camera presence

  • @Peter_S_
    @Peter_S_ 10 месяцев назад

    Brilliant video!

  • @raphaelnikolaus0486
    @raphaelnikolaus0486 10 месяцев назад

    5:56 Sam (of the HS2 project team, I guess) says "We expect 250,000 passengers every day". I guess, that is HS2 passengers only. And I also guess, those are the estimates of the station being an intermediate station, not a terminus. What I'm taking away from this, is that the station is built to handle 250,000 (+) passengers per day - as an intermediate station. But how fit would it be as a terminal station, that would take up all the passengers estimated for Euston (HS2) additionally?

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад

      Don't worry, if it became *the* terminal there'd be few if any extra passengers. What would be the point ?

  • @Pigeon45d
    @Pigeon45d 10 месяцев назад +3

    hs2 should go to euston

  • @stephenbagwell8275
    @stephenbagwell8275 10 месяцев назад

    An idea for a race (eventually) - Old Oak Common to Tottenham Court Road via Euston & Northern Line vs Elizabeth Line

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад +1

      Or New Street to Euston via WCML, vs New St. -> B'ham Curzon St. -> OOC -> (via tube train) A tube station in Central London. Perhaps better on National Express/Megabus haha

  • @sylviaelse5086
    @sylviaelse5086 10 месяцев назад +1

    I find it hard to enthuse any longer about HS2 now that its function is to turn Birmingham into a suburb of London. Meanwhile Scotland and the north of England contribute to HS2 through their taxes, but get next to no benefit from it.
    Perhaps it will follow the Advanced Passenger Train, and be cancelled outright shortly before being ready for service.

  • @brianparker663
    @brianparker663 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have lived all my life in NW London yet, until recently, I had never heard of this "Old Oak Common" of which you speak. Still not all that sure where it is TBH - all part of that amorphous "Acton" area? 😄

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 10 месяцев назад +3

      It’s on the site of a major rail depot that was called Old Oak Common, it appears to be a primarily industrial area. It’s located between Kensal Green and North Acton on the map

  • @rubberduck3y6
    @rubberduck3y6 10 месяцев назад +2

    The future London terminus of the new rail shuttle to Birmingham. Just a 30 minute train journey to actual central London!

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад +1

      yeah, save the aggro & go WCML.

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 месяцев назад +1

      Do some research, it won't be a Birmingham Shuttle as eventually HS2 will terminate at Euston, and Manchester train will use the HS2 line as far as Lichfield where they will run onto the WCML and continue their journey to Manchester via Crewe

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад

      @@peterwilliamallen1063 Yeah, the private sector investors supposedly gagging for it, to take on the risk re: HS2 profitability in order to build OOC-> Euston ... they'll be fighting over that one ! Unless the government "guarantees" profits as with locomotive/rolling stock comps & privately operated trains/ex-public utilities generally. Lets all fork out for that jolly. A nice return without risk. And waiting around at Lichfield for WCML trains ... a real incentive to go HS2. I live near there so it's a tranquil enough backwater to wait around in. Half-baked. How we like them in the UK

    • @peterwilliamallen1063
      @peterwilliamallen1063 10 месяцев назад

      @@daffyduk77 The thing is all the HS2 trains will be waiting for if that is the case are the odd Pendolino service, LNWR Local service and maty be Freight, as the majority of Inter City high speed trains will divert onto HS2 at Handsacre as all Inter City services on the WCML and HS2 will be operated by Avanti West Coast Trains

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад

      @@peterwilliamallen1063 If that means the HS2 progresses in a stately fashion along the WCML line Rugeley & beyond, w/o the benefit of Pendolino-style speed on the bends, they'll have plenty of time to admire the view. Near where I live, I can wave to them & they'll have time to wave back and reflect on whether their journey made sense from a time/construction cost perspective. I wonder how many hundreds of years will elapse before the cost is written off & we won't be gouged to use it.

  • @thomasshaanika
    @thomasshaanika 7 месяцев назад

    Can you make a 3D construction video or design o
    f the entire project ? it will be interesting to watch

  • @asthagupta7699
    @asthagupta7699 5 месяцев назад

    Old Oak Common under construction

  • @rockerjim8045
    @rockerjim8045 10 месяцев назад

    once HS2 is up and running Manchester,“East Midlands” and Leeds will demand to be added to it. Only this country could build half a modern railway. !

  • @fumthings
    @fumthings 10 месяцев назад

    wow, i thought people were kidding about hs2 stopping/terminating at old oak but with the purple train connection, it can be well used without Euston...

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 10 месяцев назад

      If you don't mind the extra time/expense ****ing about getting into Central London. A national sick joke

  • @Owenstransportvideos2024
    @Owenstransportvideos2024 10 месяцев назад

    Its gonna look amazing

  • @Icematt12
    @Icematt12 10 месяцев назад +1

    Will you do the same for the Birmingham stations if an opportunity presents itself? Im a Midlander so certainly most interested in those.

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 10 месяцев назад

      A channel called Railfocus has done quite a bit on that area

  • @joncurtis199
    @joncurtis199 10 месяцев назад +7

    Seriously laughable if this does end up being the hs2 terminus.

  • @alexdavis5766
    @alexdavis5766 9 месяцев назад

    Anyone know if the paused euston works/ the works mentioned in the end of this video will include Euston underground being made wheelchair accessible/ step free.?

  • @brettpalfrey4665
    @brettpalfrey4665 10 месяцев назад +6

    To all the HS2 haters...its here, its real...and in 50 years time, we will all be saying thank heavens we did it...Nice one , Geoff!

  • @markridgway8469
    @markridgway8469 10 месяцев назад +1

    @4:15 - @4:34 You could have just said that this is the equivalent depth of a 15 storey building... :P

  • @DouglasButler-t7r
    @DouglasButler-t7r 10 месяцев назад

    What news of the useful link to Overground line(s)?

  • @sweetestperfection90
    @sweetestperfection90 10 месяцев назад

    Do you think that large passenger numbers being brought into the Park Royal vicinity will give incentive for the "Dudding Hill" line to become a passenger Overground service?

  • @wotreplays8896
    @wotreplays8896 6 месяцев назад

    starting to think that these people are just papper pushers and they don't actually have a clue about phisical work 7:18 and everything looks so amazing to them

  • @southcalder
    @southcalder 10 месяцев назад +1

    I very much hope some of the Phase 2 cash saved sees some proper WCML upgrades. A consistent 125mph north of Preston to Glasgow and Edinburgh, with more loops for freight. Get rid of some of the ridiculous speed restrictions (like the 60mph curve at Law Junction) and the curves at Lambrigg. Also, string the wires up on the S&C and GSW, improve the signalling and move the freight off the mainline. That’ll be done for a fraction of the cost of Phase 2.

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 10 месяцев назад +1

      Getting continuous 125 mph from Preston to Glasgow would probably cost more than the portions that have been cancelled do

    • @gavin1342
      @gavin1342 10 месяцев назад

      But if Stafford to Preston section is causing delays and cancellations what’s the point.
      Preston is a nice place though, don’t get me wrong

  • @davidalt92
    @davidalt92 10 месяцев назад

    When will we see a mock up of the train that will be on HS2? Will it be similar to the Javelin?