Hi John, I like your video but it seemed to gloss over the main difference that I was hoping to learn about: key-switches for articulations. I own Session Horns and for the life of me, I can't find a way to assign key-switches to trigger different articulations such as Shake, Staccatissimo, grace notes etc. Yes I can assign ONE articulation to Velocity(hard press) and yet another to the pitch wheel such as a fall (slow or fast) but I can't key-switch my way through say a 4 bar section that maybe starts with staccatissimo, then goes to to long notes, throws in a grace note or two, then marcato and finally a rip. I would need to record separate bits on different tracks at different times to get all of these articulations in one 4 bar segment. (unless I am missing something major here) You did point out this feature on Sessions Horns Pro which is why I am going to upgrade, if only for this feature alone. Thanks again, you're a natural explainer and I enjoyed your comparison.
I bought Session Horns as a separate product. It wasn't cheap either and nowhere was I told beforehand that I would not be able to play a solo instrument with keyswitches for articulation changes, a pretty basic requirement, or so you would have thought. I wanted my money back but Native Instruments refused and treated me badly so I refuse to buy any more of their products. Yes I could have got that functionality by upgrading to the Session Horns Pro version, but that one product is about one third the price of the Komplete Ultimate bundle so very poor value. Not only that but the upgrade prices on the full version of Kontakt are ridiculous for little benefit. I don't want my hard disk filled with other stuff which I will never use so my opinion of Native Instruments and Kontakt is very negative I'm afraid.
John Mike And you were absolutely right about the difference between Session Horns and Session Horns sound quality. It's not even close. Thanks for posting this video, bro
John though I realize this is a quick overview, you missed a couple of major features. Both have 'Smart Voice Split,' under Voicing Assistant, which intelligently arranges the horns as they would typically be. Pro also offers a game changer- Smart Chord, which generates diatonic chords with the press of a single key- no chords needed! And those chords can be altered with the touch of another button: warmer, more dissonance, etc.
John Mike, Maybe I'm confused. I have Kontakt 9 Ultimate and now I've upgraded to Kontakt 6. So, I have to look and see if Session Horns are in my K9U. Thank you again. John.
Thanks for showing me those riffs! 😂 I’ve been trying to find out how to play that kind of style for a while now and this helped a lot! 🙌🏻 Will be using this in my shout music for church! Also love those Horns!!!
I bought Session Horns as a separate product. It wasn't cheap either and nowhere was I told beforehand that I would not be able to play a solo instrument with keyswitches for articulation changes, a pretty basic requirement, or so you would have thought. I wanted my money back but Native Instruments refused and treated me badly so I refuse to buy any more of their products. Yes I could have got that functionality by upgrading to the Session Horns Pro version, but that one product is about one third the price of the Komplete Ultimate bundle so very poor value. Not only that but the upgrade prices on the full version of Kontakt are ridiculous for little benefit. I don't want my hard disk filled with other stuff which I will never use so my opinion of Native Instruments and Kontakt is very negative I'm afraid.
2:12: "it could be that". jeez dude. find out if it "is that" then a comparison video from you MIGHT be worth OUR trouble. You got the camera and personality. Look the deets up!!
I did not hear much of a difference, most of the stuff is about effects like compression and eq, which you can add later, and I do prefer to add them later
@@allex4857 I think they were talking about hear as in be told the differences, ie most differences are effect or EQ additional options which can be added post edit I guess. I was thinking the same tbf
You got that right. I bought the Mojo Horns bundle based on all the glowing reviews and I'm extremely disappointed in the sound. I could've gotten better sounds from Session Horns Pro or any of the 8dio brass libraries (Studio Sax Trio is the real deal) for far less money.
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John, you keep things straight forward yet so detailed. Always love your comparison uploads
Exactly what I was looking for, keep making comparison videos! This stuff is very useful
Wow, sounds amazing!! Would you recommend the pro for live use? I’m creating multi tracks, and need a “realistic” trumpet sim like these!
Go for it!
Thank you, I have both in Komplete 11. This was mad helpful 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Great in-depth video, thanks!
Mick Benjamins you are very much welcome!
2:37 The features
great comparison , thanks
Hi John, I like your video but it seemed to gloss over the main difference that I was hoping to learn about: key-switches for articulations. I own Session Horns and for the life of me, I can't find a way to assign key-switches to trigger different articulations such as Shake, Staccatissimo, grace notes etc. Yes I can assign ONE articulation to Velocity(hard press) and yet another to the pitch wheel such as a fall (slow or fast) but I can't key-switch my way through say a 4 bar section that maybe starts with staccatissimo, then goes to to long notes, throws in a grace note or two, then marcato and finally a rip. I would need to record separate bits on different tracks at different times to get all of these articulations in one 4 bar segment. (unless I am missing something major here) You did point out this feature on Sessions Horns Pro which is why I am going to upgrade, if only for this feature alone. Thanks again, you're a natural explainer and I enjoyed your comparison.
I bought Session Horns as a separate product. It wasn't cheap either and nowhere was I told beforehand that I would not be able to play a solo instrument with keyswitches for articulation changes, a pretty basic requirement, or so you would have thought. I wanted my money back but Native Instruments refused and treated me badly so I refuse to buy any more of their products. Yes I could have got that functionality by upgrading to the Session Horns Pro version, but that one product is about one third the price of the Komplete Ultimate bundle so very poor value. Not only that but the upgrade prices on the full version of Kontakt are ridiculous for little benefit. I don't want my hard disk filled with other stuff which I will never use so my opinion of Native Instruments and Kontakt is very negative I'm afraid.
Can we play horn session live performance?
Now you got me using that word "tweekability" now , my brotha
🤣🤣
John Mike And you were absolutely right about the difference between Session Horns and Session Horns sound quality. It's not even close. Thanks for posting this video, bro
Love this channel. Thanks
Hey, nice vid! I have the regular version but it seems that the keyswithing isn't available actually so I'll need to upgrade to the Pro version
Thank you bro, real helpful!
I'm new to horns & brass. I'm curious as to why you always play your riffs in octaves. Why not just play one note at a time?
Please do more sound comparison in the mix. that would help a lot
Super detailed. Thanks!
John though I realize this is a quick overview, you missed a couple of major features. Both have 'Smart Voice Split,' under Voicing Assistant, which intelligently arranges the horns as they would typically be. Pro also offers a game changer- Smart Chord, which generates diatonic chords with the press of a single key- no chords needed! And those chords can be altered with the touch of another button: warmer, more dissonance, etc.
Love your work man.
Thanks
Tks for this info bro!
Great review!
Great video! One question though...when you track horns, do you usually track in two octaves?
+Alberto Camacho thanks! It depends on what I’m working on
Great Demo and Video.... Trev
Hola maestro soy de ecuador como puedo tener esas trompeta cuanto vale el vst
600$ but u can pirate it
@@catpriest u know what's up
Thank you for your demo, John Mike. Is Session Horns Pro in Kontakt already or Do you buy it? Same question for Session Horns.
You’re welcome! And no you have to buy it separately...unless you buy Komplete ultimate...then you get everything they make
John Mike, Maybe I'm confused. I have Kontakt 9 Ultimate and now I've upgraded to Kontakt 6. So, I have to look and see if Session Horns are in my K9U. Thank you again. John.
nice comparison video👍
so you can't play single instruments in session horns?
Not the original
John Mike damn that sucks, thanks
30gb is too much for me
Native Instruments really needs to work on their trumpet samples. Good gah.
They sound OK, at least in terms of articulations this is far cheaper than an arranger keyboard
like Yamaha Tyros 5, Genos or Korg PA-5X.
great video
Thanks for showing me those riffs! 😂 I’ve been trying to find out how to play that kind of style for a while now and this helped a lot! 🙌🏻
Will be using this in my shout music for church! Also love those Horns!!!
Lol
I bought Session Horns as a separate product. It wasn't cheap either and nowhere was I told beforehand that I would not be able to play a solo instrument with keyswitches for articulation changes, a pretty basic requirement, or so you would have thought. I wanted my money back but Native Instruments refused and treated me badly so I refuse to buy any more of their products. Yes I could have got that functionality by upgrading to the Session Horns Pro version, but that one product is about one third the price of the Komplete Ultimate bundle so very poor value. Not only that but the upgrade prices on the full version of Kontakt are ridiculous for little benefit. I don't want my hard disk filled with other stuff which I will never use so my opinion of Native Instruments and Kontakt is very negative I'm afraid.
2:12: "it could be that". jeez dude. find out if it "is that" then a comparison video from you MIGHT be worth OUR trouble. You got the camera and personality. Look the deets up!!
Sorry to cause you so much “trouble” 🤙🏾
I did not hear much of a difference, most of the stuff is about effects like compression and eq, which you can add later, and I do prefer to add them later
use headphones
@@allex4857 I think they were talking about hear as in be told the differences, ie most differences are effect or EQ additional options which can be added post edit I guess. I was thinking the same tbf
The tape... you had me when you put tape on. Here's my money for NI !
HI JOHN I LIKE THE BRASS SOUND ON SESSION HORN I NEED THESE HORNS FOR LIVE SHOES WILL THIS WORK FOF ME
Sounds alot more expensive :D
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COMO ABRAS TANTO
Mojo is overpriced, so Session Horns is a better deal....
You got that right. I bought the Mojo Horns bundle based on all the glowing reviews and I'm extremely disappointed in the sound. I could've gotten better sounds from Session Horns Pro or any of the 8dio brass libraries (Studio Sax Trio is the real deal) for far less money.
Nice vid
But it would be nice if you mute your mic while you playing its kind of annoying listen to the 🎹
Great review!