7:40 You fell for the “door in the face” sales technique. The first offer is supposed to be so bad it’s offensive so that the next offer seems reasonable, even though it’s still a bad deal.
We stayed at Tuscany in Orlando in 09/2023. We did the same presentation. We did not purchase the timeshare but bought the exact same deal. We are going to Hawaii next year. Let me know how the presentation goes. Thanks
Hi @Kidblk7 you do not have to purchase but you have to attend the presentation. If you don't attend, they have your credit card and will you charge you the full price of the room as opposed to the discounted rate you received with the offer. The only additional expenses were food/beverages/etc but no additional room charges.
Hi, thanks for this informative video. I have a quick question. The representative mentioned that if you lose your job before your arrival, they may cancel your reservation or charge you the full nightly rate. Could you clarify the process? At any point, were you asked to provide any confidential information, such as your employment details, or were they required to run your credit or verify your employment status? Additionally, did they stick to the promised 2-hour time frame, or did they try to keep you longer? How did you handle that situation? Thanks in advance for your help!
Hi @ninak1341 the representative never mentioned to us any stipulations regarding employment. Maybe that is new?? We were never asked about our employment status before or during the presentation. The presentation was over within the 2 hrs and we did not feel pressured.
We’re currently a day away from our HGV presentation in Oahu. They booked us at the Doubletree Alana. Our presentation is a block away at the Modern Honolulu (recently bought by HGV). I lived on Oahu for 10 years so I was already familiar with the Hilton properties. The Doubletree is 3 ⭐️ at best and has absolutely no beach views. It is currently under renovation so our balcony is currently inaccessible. Looking forward to seeing what I can’t afford at my presentation!
@Kevin Satterfield hello! Thanks for the information! I hope you enjoy your stay! I am nervous to actually see what is available when I call and try to book ours. We have to wait until June to book it 😳
I literally just got an email offering 4day/3night +50,000 points for $249 vacation. This has been so helpful. I’ve had some anxiety about how the presentation works. The email only says one 2hr presentation. Do you schedule the presentation or do they tell you when? Hoping to pair it with Disney. They also said you have to meet an income requirement or else you have to pay the difference of your stay 🤷♀️
Hello @Erica Heidinger! Glad you found the information useful! They pick the day and time of the presentation for you. I'm not sure about the income requirement. I would definitely ask about that before I booked it. My husband is the one who was approached and purchased the offer so I'm not sure if they mentioned an income minimum to him. I would definitely not want to be responsible for the price difference in your stay.
Hi can you let me know how was your experience in Hawaii when you go. I bought the same exact package for a trip to Hawaii two a go. Let me know how was the experience please
Oahu is nice but you could do that island for less days... I'd recommend going to Wakoloa on the Big Island and spend those days checking out all the things you can do for day trips across that island.
(I hope this question isn't a duplicate) What is the minimum income requirement to be "eligible? Also, did you have to have something to verify your income? This information isn't anywhere on their website.
@anitraaprater3874 I can't remember if there was an income requirement, I'm sorry! They did not ask us for physical/paper verification of our income for the presentation, but we did not purchase. Obviously, if you were to purchase and finance, all that information would be collected and verified.
Hello I looked at your video because I just got off the phone with a hilton rep that presented a cuise and vacation to us. DO you have any thoughts on acccepting these? it was $400 for t 4D3N vacationd ( cruise included), but I didn't want to be scammed. I was scammed before in Mexico.
A very similar experience for us, except for the I don't agree that we were not pressured- not rude, but kept trying to negotiate a number we would bite on. They got it down to several smaller packages they offered, but it was still just way to big of a commitment financialy. They also kept brining another lady in to try to close. I was annoyed that it took 4 hours and was cutting into our day. That being said, we also opted for the $1695 package, for another vacation- which isn't bad considering they supposedly give you luxury rooms. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Hi @kevinmach730 sorry to hear you were pressured! That is so uncomfortable! We will be attending another presentation next week. We were going to use our package to go to Hawaii but things change, so we are just using it here in Orlando. I'll post a new video in a couple weeks and let everyone know any changes. Thanks for the comment!
@Willrich202000 thanks for watching and for the comment!! Hopefully you won't be the one on the sofa bed 😅🤣!! I really liked the resort overall, except for that bed 😔.
You can also go to Maui, and Lake Tahoe. There are properties not in the book. Make sure you book 9 months in advance for Hawaii. If you need a two bedroom for four nights on a big island and three nights on a small island they will give you the run around. “Oh, dates will not line up, or we can downgrade you to a one bedroom.” So if you are traveling with four or more people they will want half of your trip for you to have to pack into a smaller room. Less hassle and more flexibility to go independently of them. VRBO has good deals and other sites.
8,000 points is about 1.5 weeks in high season, 1-bedroom. You could buy that resale in Las Vegas for about $1,500 or less. We bought 5,440 points off Ebay, $1,100 per year in maintenance. That's enough points to stay 6 nights in Waikiki off season one year, and 4 weeknights in Las Vegas the opposite year. We're not knocking it out of the park, but we're still saving a little money, and especially staying in nicer resorts vs a 3 star hotel. Wouldn't be worth it to us unless we lived near the West Coast. We also own Club Wyndham. The properties aren't as fancy, and the presentations are more aggressive, but they can be vastly more lucrative. We bought Kona and Sedona, where hotels cost $300+ per night, to really stretch out the value.
Most of the Hilton resorts in the high seasons cost 500$- 1300$ per night so a 6 day trip if you just paid cash would cost 3-8400$ for just the lodging that is why t has that cost. Tnl- wyndham and Hilton have the best resorts in my opinion. @@yolofamilytravels
Hi there for my opinion it’s worth it! Not sure but just bought mine for $7,800 for Elara with less point/studio for one week and that’s a steal if you own it for life but I’m from Hawaii take note you can book every where in the world for faction of price, jusTry ask them if they can give you a lower price I’m staying at HGV maui bay villa promise you totally worth it, it will pay its own if your planning to have a trip for another 20 years I lmk I will send you a break down lmk
20 years 😂😂😂😂 there's so many deals and sales everywhere to pay all that plus maintenance fees and other fees for 20 years imo isn't worth it. Especially when u have.to book so far in advance and if u can't go or something happens u missed out and still gotta pay.. no thanks. Even if u save some money the restrictions and not being spontaneous or points value diminish depending on day and dates.. no thanks.. u obviously didn't do the #'s right and adding in all the restrictions
@larahamilton2273 we bought another discounted vacation package. Similar to what we had already purchased. We will have to attend another presentation with this package once we book it but we didn't purchase a timeshare.
@Chad Gardiner, yes we thought it was worth it (paying $295 for 4 nights and attending the presentation). We did not think purchasing the timeshare would be worth it to us. To pay the discounted rate and only have to commit two hours of our day to a talk was not bad.
Was calling recently for something different and they offered this to me today. $300 (357 or so with tax) for the period of time isn't too bad. Glad to hear it's not a high-pressure event, at least. I have little interest in buying a timeshare. For one, not near at that price. 8k points or something is something like 10 days (i think, from what I've seen in other videos) at places. The cost, plus there's some kinda maintenance fees also a part of the whole thing, really make this whole idea seem ill advised. One video had maintenance at 1200 a year. So if you use all your points, most optimally, maybe you'd pay off the deed (or use it all up and get your money worth) in a good 10 or so years. Apparently you can sell these shares, but yeah I don't know. Just seems pointless to me.
Hey so, if you need some advice and have never been to Hawaii I can offer you some tips: 1.) go to Oahu, it’s the best island to visit for someone who’s never been before 2.) fly delta don’t fly American American is awful 3.) when visiting Hawaii make sure to check out Pearl Harbor it’s an incredible sight to visit and very emotional and moving 4.) if you enjoy hikes then definitely checkout diamondhead trail beautiful view and you can see the whole island 5.) go to a luau it’s an authentic Hawaiian experience you won’t wanna miss 6.) spend as much time as you can on the beach the water is like walking into a warm salt bath it’s really incredible
@@yolofamilytravels I used to go there every other summer when I was little. I haven’t been back in many many years… my mom designed the elevators for the Hilton Hawaiian village & the Sheraton Waikiki. Not to brag but I know it pretty well!!! Have a super trip
It’s a scam. Not worth it, don’t buy for it. 1 timeshare is equal to approximately 6 us cents. So, you are having a hotel for $480 per visit (depending on price per night) and paying about $32k for it… also you should pay an annual maintenance fee depending on state or city around $2,000. Hilton and other hotels are meeting their revenue because of those whom they could fool and who bought this and regret. Also, it’s super hard to get out of the program… so, I don’t recommend to any person to buy a headache. If you have extra $32k invest it and enjoy vacations without any obligations.
I am a Diamond member with Hilton and an owner with HGV. The points system is not the same as the Hhonors points system. There is no comparison between the 2 whatsoever. We’ve been owners for a couple years now and we’ve already been able to take about $10,000 worth in resort stays with our ownership and we haven’t paid much more than that for our lifetime ownership so you really have to weigh out your needs for vacations and see how to best utilize it. We’ve literally been to Myrtle Beach twice, Gatlinburg, Branson, and just got off of a plane earlier this week from Park City, UT. We have a 10 night booked in HI in 2024 and another Smoky Mountain trip in the fall. And just for the record, we don’t have a lot of points. About what you were talking about getting in your video so you just have to know how to best maximize the points to stretch. I can agree that they are not pressuring at all in the sales pitch. They are always helpful and answer any questions you may have. And the accommodations are far superior to anything you will find in their brands of hotels.
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very informative. we are heading to a presentation and now we know what to expect. tyvm
Hi @gman31088 thanks for watching! Glad you found it helpful 😀
7:40 You fell for the “door in the face” sales technique. The first offer is supposed to be so bad it’s offensive so that the next offer seems reasonable, even though it’s still a bad deal.
@stetson999 ahhh seemed pretty outlandish to us 🤣 thanks for the information 👍
We stayed at Tuscany in Orlando in 09/2023. We did the same presentation. We did not purchase the timeshare but bought the exact same deal. We are going to Hawaii next year. Let me know how the presentation goes. Thanks
@jasonkim3557 that's so funny! I'll post another video detailing the presentation and trip we take. Thanks for watching!
Is it okay to go there and decide to not move forward with them, and do you pay for any extras after you arrive there?
Hi @Kidblk7 you do not have to purchase but you have to attend the presentation. If you don't attend, they have your credit card and will you charge you the full price of the room as opposed to the discounted rate you received with the offer. The only additional expenses were food/beverages/etc but no additional room charges.
Hi, thanks for this informative video. I have a quick question. The representative mentioned that if you lose your job before your arrival, they may cancel your reservation or charge you the full nightly rate. Could you clarify the process? At any point, were you asked to provide any confidential information, such as your employment details, or were they required to run your credit or verify your employment status?
Additionally, did they stick to the promised 2-hour time frame, or did they try to keep you longer? How did you handle that situation?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Hi @ninak1341 the representative never mentioned to us any stipulations regarding employment. Maybe that is new?? We were never asked about our employment status before or during the presentation. The presentation was over within the 2 hrs and we did not feel pressured.
@@yolofamilytravels Thank you for your response
@ninak1341 you're welcome! Thanks for watching!
We’re currently a day away from our HGV presentation in Oahu. They booked us at the Doubletree Alana. Our presentation is a block away at the Modern Honolulu (recently bought by HGV). I lived on Oahu for 10 years so I was already familiar with the Hilton properties. The Doubletree is 3 ⭐️ at best and has absolutely no beach views. It is currently under renovation so our balcony is currently inaccessible.
Looking forward to seeing what I can’t afford at my presentation!
@Kevin Satterfield hello! Thanks for the information! I hope you enjoy your stay! I am nervous to actually see what is available when I call and try to book ours. We have to wait until June to book it 😳
I literally just got an email offering 4day/3night +50,000 points for $249 vacation. This has been so helpful. I’ve had some anxiety about how the presentation works. The email only says one 2hr presentation. Do you schedule the presentation or do they tell you when? Hoping to pair it with Disney. They also said you have to meet an income requirement or else you have to pay the difference of your stay 🤷♀️
Hello @Erica Heidinger! Glad you found the information useful! They pick the day and time of the presentation for you. I'm not sure about the income requirement. I would definitely ask about that before I booked it. My husband is the one who was approached and purchased the offer so I'm not sure if they mentioned an income minimum to him. I would definitely not want to be responsible for the price difference in your stay.
I got it for 169
Hi can you let me know how was your experience in Hawaii when you go. I bought the same exact package for a trip to Hawaii two a go. Let me know how was the experience please
Oahu is nice but you could do that island for less days... I'd recommend going to Wakoloa on the Big Island and spend those days checking out all the things you can do for day trips across that island.
@96mgunter, thanks for the recommendation!! I will have to see what's available when I am able to book it in a few weeks.
(I hope this question isn't a duplicate) What is the minimum income requirement to be "eligible? Also, did you have to have something to verify your income? This information isn't anywhere on their website.
@anitraaprater3874 I can't remember if there was an income requirement, I'm sorry! They did not ask us for physical/paper verification of our income for the presentation, but we did not purchase. Obviously, if you were to purchase and finance, all that information would be collected and verified.
80,000 a year
Hello I looked at your video because I just got off the phone with a hilton rep that presented a cuise and vacation to us. DO you have any thoughts on acccepting these? it was $400 for t 4D3N vacationd ( cruise included), but I didn't want to be scammed. I was scammed before in Mexico.
Hi @jazzpay2699 thanks for tuning in! I'm sorry I'm not more helpful but I have no idea about cruise deals. I'm sorry!
A very similar experience for us, except for the I don't agree that we were not pressured- not rude, but kept trying to negotiate a number we would bite on. They got it down to several smaller packages they offered, but it was still just way to big of a commitment financialy. They also kept brining another lady in to try to close. I was annoyed that it took 4 hours and was cutting into our day. That being said, we also opted for the $1695 package, for another vacation- which isn't bad considering they supposedly give you luxury rooms. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Hi @kevinmach730 sorry to hear you were pressured! That is so uncomfortable! We will be attending another presentation next week. We were going to use our package to go to Hawaii but things change, so we are just using it here in Orlando. I'll post a new video in a couple weeks and let everyone know any changes. Thanks for the comment!
That last 30 seconds scares me cuz I’ll be staying at Tuscany next month
@Willrich202000 thanks for watching and for the comment!! Hopefully you won't be the one on the sofa bed 😅🤣!! I really liked the resort overall, except for that bed 😔.
You can also go to Maui, and Lake Tahoe. There are properties not in the book. Make sure you book 9 months in advance for Hawaii. If you need a two bedroom for four nights on a big island and three nights on a small island they will give you the run around. “Oh, dates will not line up, or we can downgrade you to a one bedroom.” So if you are traveling with four or more people they will want half of your trip for you to have to pack into a smaller room. Less hassle and more flexibility to go independently of them. VRBO has good deals and other sites.
Thanks so much for the pointers! I'll post back here and let everyone know what we end up booking. Any thoughts on Sedona??
Did you go to Hawaii?
Hi @Viperatut no we didn't end up going 😢
8,000 points is about 1.5 weeks in high season, 1-bedroom. You could buy that resale in Las Vegas for about $1,500 or less. We bought 5,440 points off Ebay, $1,100 per year in maintenance. That's enough points to stay 6 nights in Waikiki off season one year, and 4 weeknights in Las Vegas the opposite year. We're not knocking it out of the park, but we're still saving a little money, and especially staying in nicer resorts vs a 3 star hotel. Wouldn't be worth it to us unless we lived near the West Coast.
We also own Club Wyndham. The properties aren't as fancy, and the presentations are more aggressive, but they can be vastly more lucrative. We bought Kona and Sedona, where hotels cost $300+ per night, to really stretch out the value.
@thejokerspeaks, wow!! You know your stuff! Thanks for the insight!
I'm here in orlando hgv now & it's now $38,800 for 8,000 points. Instead of the $32k you mentioned.
@nonenone3624, wow! That's a big increase! I just can't believe people are paying that!
Most of the Hilton resorts in the high seasons cost 500$- 1300$ per night so a 6 day trip if you just paid cash would cost 3-8400$ for just the lodging that is why t has that cost. Tnl- wyndham and Hilton have the best resorts in my opinion. @@yolofamilytravels
ugh sounds exhausting and a mood changer for the worst. Is it mandatory to go to a presentation?
@dvbibbs192 it wasn't too bad but yes it is mandatory or they will charge you!
@@yolofamilytravels 😳 wow! Good to know ty!
Hi there for my opinion it’s worth it! Not sure but just bought mine for $7,800 for Elara with less point/studio for one week and that’s a steal if you own it for life but I’m from Hawaii take note you can book every where in the world for faction of price, jusTry ask them if they can give you a lower price I’m staying at HGV maui bay villa promise you totally worth it, it will pay its own if your planning to have a trip for another 20 years I lmk I will send you a break down lmk
@beyacacayorin4416 thanks for the information
20 years 😂😂😂😂 there's so many deals and sales everywhere to pay all that plus maintenance fees and other fees for 20 years imo isn't worth it. Especially when u have.to book so far in advance and if u can't go or something happens u missed out and still gotta pay.. no thanks. Even if u save some money the restrictions and not being spontaneous or points value diminish depending on day and dates.. no thanks.. u obviously didn't do the #'s right and adding in all the restrictions
You bought something? What?
@larahamilton2273 we bought another discounted vacation package. Similar to what we had already purchased. We will have to attend another presentation with this package once we book it but we didn't purchase a timeshare.
Imagine how they'll devalue those points in the future.
@Mike_Genisys yes, I don't think it would ever be cost effective for me.
Cool was it worth it
@Chad Gardiner, yes we thought it was worth it (paying $295 for 4 nights and attending the presentation). We did not think purchasing the timeshare would be worth it to us. To pay the discounted rate and only have to commit two hours of our day to a talk was not bad.
Was calling recently for something different and they offered this to me today. $300 (357 or so with tax) for the period of time isn't too bad. Glad to hear it's not a high-pressure event, at least.
I have little interest in buying a timeshare. For one, not near at that price. 8k points or something is something like 10 days (i think, from what I've seen in other videos) at places. The cost, plus there's some kinda maintenance fees also a part of the whole thing, really make this whole idea seem ill advised. One video had maintenance at 1200 a year. So if you use all your points, most optimally, maybe you'd pay off the deed (or use it all up and get your money worth) in a good 10 or so years. Apparently you can sell these shares, but yeah I don't know. Just seems pointless to me.
@David, hello! We thought it was a great rate and yes the presentation was not uncomfortable at all 😊
And yes, we definitely did not see any reason to purchase!!
NEVER EVER EVER EVER buy a time share. JUST DON’T DO IT!
Hi @mfehp thanks for the advice!!
Hey so, if you need some advice and have never been to Hawaii I can offer you some tips:
1.) go to Oahu, it’s the best island to visit for someone who’s never been before
2.) fly delta don’t fly American American is awful
3.) when visiting Hawaii make sure to check out Pearl Harbor it’s an incredible sight to visit and very emotional and moving
4.) if you enjoy hikes then definitely checkout diamondhead trail beautiful view and you can see the whole island
5.) go to a luau it’s an authentic Hawaiian experience you won’t wanna miss
6.) spend as much time as you can on the beach the water is like walking into a warm salt bath it’s really incredible
Wow, @anthonybaratta8682 thank you so much for the tips!!
@@yolofamilytravels I used to go there every other summer when I was little. I haven’t been back in many many years… my mom designed the elevators for the Hilton Hawaiian village & the Sheraton Waikiki. Not to brag but I know it pretty well!!! Have a super trip
Imo if ur going for and prize under 200 it's not worth it.. 200 and over with 2hours or less is ok.... imo
Scam. Youll be broke. Don’t try
Yes, I kinda figured...
It’s a scam. Not worth it, don’t buy for it. 1 timeshare is equal to approximately 6 us cents. So, you are having a hotel for $480 per visit (depending on price per night) and paying about $32k for it… also you should pay an annual maintenance fee depending on state or city around $2,000. Hilton and other hotels are meeting their revenue because of those whom they could fool and who bought this and regret. Also, it’s super hard to get out of the program… so, I don’t recommend to any person to buy a headache. If you have extra $32k invest it and enjoy vacations without any obligations.
Jesus Christ, 32k for 8k points?? You get 1,000 points for waiving the $15 breakfast. That 8,000 points is equivalent to $120
@metaldemonseanknels wow, doesn't quite add up now does it 🤣
@@yolofamilytravels yeah absolutely not lol that would have been my response to them lol
I am a Diamond member with Hilton and an owner with HGV. The points system is not the same as the Hhonors points system. There is no comparison between the 2 whatsoever. We’ve been owners for a couple years now and we’ve already been able to take about $10,000 worth in resort stays with our ownership and we haven’t paid much more than that for our lifetime ownership so you really have to weigh out your needs for vacations and see how to best utilize it. We’ve literally been to Myrtle Beach twice, Gatlinburg, Branson, and just got off of a plane earlier this week from Park City, UT. We have a 10 night booked in HI in 2024 and another Smoky Mountain trip in the fall. And just for the record, we don’t have a lot of points. About what you were talking about getting in your video so you just have to know how to best maximize the points to stretch.
I can agree that they are not pressuring at all in the sales pitch. They are always helpful and answer any questions you may have. And the accommodations are far superior to anything you will find in their brands of hotels.
@@lane8358 I learned that after going to the thing but it’s still a scam and not a smart investment in any way shape or form
@@lane8358 I’m also not a “vacation person” lol it’s not a scam if you live that lifestyle maybe but I don’t make enough money to justify it
It´s a robbery.
Never purchase anything!!!!