Consequences for Police after friendlyjordies Arrest?
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ADDITIONAL HEARINGS
Attorney General
Wednesday 16 March 2022, 9.30 am - 5.30 pm
Macquarie Room, Parliament House, Sydney
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00:00 Questions from Adam Searle
05:30 Referral to Law Encforcement Conduct Commission?
11:03 Fixated Persons Unit influencing witnesses?
18:50 Questions from David Shoebridge 
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It's important to remember the ONLY reason this is being talked about is because jordan has a decent RUclips following, was able to crowd fund and draw enough attention it to get some backlash to happen. If this happened to any of us, we'd have been crushed by legal fees, have to just accept what the police was doing and no politicians would've known about it.
The question being dismissed (or rather acknowledged and not responded adequately) regarding concerns of the department overstepping and the difficulty of how the general public can scrutinise those actions, really speaks to the level of rot and corruption our government is experiencing. It is a shameful display.
This is true, but I also see Jordan shanks would offer assistance to someone who asks. Avi Yemeni from rebel would also be contactable for legal assistance, we are in this together.
So true, us regular folks are doomed if this happens to us.
Very true… need plenty of grease to lube the cogs of this country’s filthy gears of corruption.
Being well connected also helps I guess
As someone who has worked in government, I humbly submit that the Attorney General was lying through his teeth when saying he hadn't been briefed on the Kristo Langker prosecution. That's exactly the type of issue politicians insist on being fully informed.
A freedom of information request on his departmental advice should clarify whether he lied to a parliamentary enquiry.
I agree. I know I put in a complaint about the whole thing last year to Speakman. If he (or his chief of staff) didn't bother reading my complaint, then they're wilfully ignorant. I know they would've had briefings when this sort of shit comes out.
The thing is he was asked about these same things in November and used the same excuse back then. Even if he knew nothing in November I reckon he would haver been fully briefed within an hour of leaving the hearings. It is obvious he is lying.
Yes, that's why he stopped mid sentence to change his wording to, "I don't recall" having been briefed on the issue, we must remember the Mark Speakman and John Barillaro are in the same political party , So don't expect too many straight answers.
@@marlin1018 good point. I'm with you... Speakman turns up with the old "dog ate my homework" excuse. I don't believe he doesn't know what's been happening. Even the SMH have been writing stories on this whole drama.
Yes as someone who also worked for the public service, I agree with your humble submission. The public service and his advisors would know he will get questions on it in estimates and briefing notes would normally be prepared.
Fuck I love Adam Searle's zero chill in pointing out inconsistencies and where they fucked up
Nice to see it being treated with the severity it deserves
Adam Searle is an absolute gun. Twice now he's had these cops in and twice he's reduced them to breathless, stumbling messes. Keep em honest Jordan, hope Kristo sues them into the Stone Age for wrongful arrest.
I'm no legal eagle. But I think the arrest was lawful based on "Information the police had been given at the time"
@@VifferDude um, no. Not even remotely. Lol.
@@VifferDude They admitted they didn't have a warrant and that he was *not* arrested for a danger of physical violence, only for being part of FriendlyJordies. So no, there is no way the arrest was legal
@@VifferDude Nah, based on all the information available they were halfcocked and with 0 actionable evidence and lots of evidence to the contrary and lots pointing to corruption not to mention the assault of someones mother, sister, and dog.
@@VifferDudeare you kid, or seriously that stupid?
MSM won't touch this. If this was your average aussie they'd be completely fucked.
Respect to jordies and his team, also those who help fund his legal bid.
It's been worth every penny so far.
Oh, if the political parties were swapped, it would definitely be examined.
If the media were hostile or at least suspicious of all politicians, ok. But instead they only heavily report scandals on one.
MSM are bootlickers.
While what you say is true, this wouldn't happen to an average Aussie. The only reason they were targeted was precisely his outspoken criticism of the state government. That's the worrying part.
That's the thing... an average aussie did get fscked. If you missed FJ's previous video the fixated persons unit targetted someone to the point they used the said persons advised to their daughter to "stand up for themselves" as "advising a 2ndary party to incite violence" and claimed he was advising his daughter to kick the teacher.... without ANYONE asking the said child what he was talking to her about. The guy got charged and was found guilty after being set up.... and was all promptly thrown out at appeals.
How good is Adam Searle. Highly competent and a complete professional. He makes these police sound like a joke, incompetent at best.
And his phone makes the tardis sound from doctor who 🤣
I liked how David doubled down on him too, was glad to see. Just so frustrating that old mate won't just say "yes we will investigate this further"
Since when are mobile phones allowed in court rooms?
@@gavinsmith8375 Always but meant to be off
All these cases are a joke. The fact this is actually a thing makes Australia pretty close to China.
"When did you give the legal advice"
"I'd have to take that on notice"
Translation: "I have to double-check with the cops what date they want me to say I gave them legal advice"
C'mon, how can you not know the details of literally the only reason you're in that room.
"Private citizens need not expend legal fees on defending themselves from police, they can report those cases to the LECC"
"The LECC actions between 2-3% of reports made due to budgetary constraints"
"That's not a budgetary issue, those are simply all the cases valid enough to be actioned."
"Well, I have the LECC annual budgetary report... right here!"
(Mark Speakman explodes into ash)
“If someone else reports it, I’m gonna have to look into it”
imagine not doing your job until someone else tells you to do it
the old pass the buck, "yea i look over it and can refer it but i will not comment on it or refer it" lol
@@tristanmeadows tale as old as time. Seems FPU are of the opinion it’s better to seek forgiveness than approval (and seems like they’ve never had to seek forgiveness)
He's the Attorney General and he can't act on anything if he doesn't have a complaint
@@bennyboytalk Admittedly i don’t understand enough about the order of process, but he did conclude he would review it if no complaint was made (whether he does or not, it would mean he has the capacity to do so without a complaint)
It's worse than that, it's "I won't do my job until I'm forced to do it.". But he is an LNP politician, so that's about par for the course.
So the minister responsible is waiting for someone to tell him that what the police did was wrong so he can feign displeasure. What a copout that is.
Unless you are the NT minister for cops and there is a BLM related, politically charged attack on a cop that literally shot a man that was physically stabbing him.....then you jump right in and virtue signal until your limbs fall off.....and if you're the corruption watchdog, you do the same thing but harder (not coz they believe in the BLM cause....only coz they think that it may hurt their political career if they don't)
Cop out heh
You just described the NSW Liberal Govt.
@@VincentNajger1 What the fuck is this? BLM has had no big effects in America let alone in Australia, In fact saying there in support of BLM would hurt there political career more from fox/sky news and morons like you.
@@claremiller9979 boom-tish !🤣 🥁
Could you imagine being able to sit in a fancy suit, drinking fancy bottled water, adjusting your fancy expensive watch, and laughing and smirking while being question on gestapo tactics being employed Australian citizens. Disgusting. A whole room of people ready to talk about witness tampering and you havnt watched the evidence? This man is a dunce and does not deserve the honorary title before his name. This is most disgusted I’ve ever been with my countries police force, shame be thy those in blue today.
“Is that a matter than concerns you as the minister responsible for the police watchdog?”
“The minister responsible for what?”
What a beauty.
If there was any government body as effective as FJ for bringing corruption to light we would live in a different country.
The ONLY reason this is being discussed at a parliamentary level is because of the work and sacrifice of the friendlyjordies team and in my opinion the Australian nation owes them a debt of gratititude for whatever results from this enquiry, because it looks like some rats are going to be dislodged from their nests.
It's long been known that the house of parliament is a den of thieves and miscreants posing as civil servants and we are well overdue for a flush. It's time the public demanded some integrity and transparency and this passing the buck onto the private sector needs to stop. The attitude of the attorney general is gross "it's not my job" was the cry, if it's not his job then what is? "I don't have the resources to look at every case so therefore I will look at none". It's bullshit!
It makes me so fucking angry that these people do nothing except bandy words and dodge responsibility when the corruption is plain as day.
Really well said Jared Mundi.
Mates it’s a fire in the nest.. some will burn but most will likely run .. just hopefully it’s a cage they run too
Have you seen the show - Line of Duty? There definitely needs to an Aus equivalent if there isn't already.
If there was I think we’d all be worried 😳🤣🤙✌️
Great comment
Whitlam was sacked for wayyyy less.
Surely they just need a court order to procure the text message records from the officer's phone... (See to whom he sent that text, and what it says.)
Depends on how deep the rot is
Surly they would if they all werent marketing managers for their departments
Yep! Same thought came to my mind.
Absolutely. No doubt their rotten to the core.
C'mon John stop making so much sense.
For a man of such a high level of authority & responsibility, he doesn't know much..
Surely ,as all our texts, emails & phone calls are recorded by the government , it could not be that hard to get that policeman's records. If that was a bike doing the same thing those texts would be on the front page of every major newspaper in the country... A current affair would be chasing old mate down the street shaming him, 60 minutes would have a "special investigation" & the ABC would have exclusive transcripts. Yet, I have to hand it to the minister,... He done a terrific job not answering any question whilst answering. Worthy of a special episode of Yes Minister... He may even be promoted for this performance. 👏 Bravo minister.
My Lord, watching this channel for the last couple of years.
I can see clearly the police and government underestimated how big this would become.
Well done guys, from Canada.
👍✌️👍
I love it when folks from other countries are switched on to our shitty government! Go Canada!
The federal police in Canada here have little to no oversight so it’s refreshing seeing it happen somewhere
@@TaureanTrishanother Canadian going through this shitshow 🫡
Mr. Searle is incredible. Very well researched, keeps his cards close to his chest until it's required. I wouldn't want to be questioned by him!
Better Call Searle!
There's a reason he's a barrister, you don't get into that job without being as brilliant as Searle
And he has a tardis ringtone!
He has a very particular way of setting up questions and then hitting them with one question that unravels all of their previous answers on the same topic, it’s a very precise way to make sure someone is lying by trying to get them to think you are taking the conversation in one direction, making them commit to that line of questioning before asking the real question you want the answer to, which in turn discredits everything they have said up to that point, making the person answering the questions appear to have been trying to lie or not being completely honest about something
@@timothybridges7577 Brill.. :-)
How do we sit back and let these things happen. If we didnt waste so many hours and so many dollars on these ignorant "leaders" , we could have solved homelessness, hunger, and medical care for every person in this country. Why we throw all the money down the drain instead of giving it to the citizens is mind blowing... Especially watching this man that is over so many police control committees but doesnt seem to care at all that multiple times in the same conversation he "learns" about malpractice of the police...
And does nothing!!
20:03 The counter question to that would be "How many cases have had the Fixated Persons Unit been involved in?" (Because the AG brushes off the question by answering that there are hundreds of thousands of cases and he doesn't look at them all, this question would actually test the integrity of the answer.)
"As the Minister responsible for the most widely publicised, high profile and egregious example of police overreach in modern memory, I do not recall ever being briefed on the matter".
The thin brown line.
The constant "I have nothing to do with this case" followed by "Yes, I am in charge of ensuring police integrity"
God damn
Imagine seeing a case involving the blatant assault and arrest of an innocent and unironically thinking that doesn't raise any red flags with police integrity
Also the constant weaseling is hilarious, especially seeing video footage of a police officer coercing witnesses to lie and saying "I'm not sure we're legally allowed to watch court CCTV" LOL
And finally the "Your job is to investigate, will you investigate" "Uhhh I will get advice"
Jesus, this is just the most expensive dole program ever eh, they sit there receiving massive amounts of taxpayer money to specifically not do their job xD
So useless they don't even qualify as "leaners".
This turd is pushing us down
lmao "the most expensive dole program ever" hahahah seems that way
Exactly!
:D Your last sentence genuinely made me laugh out loud!
How hard would it be to just say that "there appeared to be some improper conduct that I will investigate further and report the results of my invistigation back to this committee"
If I ever get arrested and questioned, I'm changing "no comment" to "I'll have to take that on notice"
Never heard of David Shoebridge before watching him on friendlyjordies ... now I can't wait to hear him speak ... Thanks for bringing this to us.
The absolute incompetence of the "specialist" unit is embarrassing.
The nature of the publicised "targets" of this "specialist" unit are even more embarrassing.
The involvement of the Liberal Party in directing the actions of a specialist unit of police against their political rivals is inexcusable.
We have a wonderful lieberal party leading Canada.
Rural votes don't count only the big Eastern provinces.
I think it just highlights that maybe terrorism, domestic or otherwise, just isn't as much ofna threat as previous (and current) government have made it out to be, and that perhaps those resources left unmanaged are being utilised by senior staffing members for nefarious means.
@@ogopogo1352 in Australia our Liberal party are more to the right than left. Crazy.... I know but we are upside down
@Uhavenoright toask Did you watch the video? It was Adam Searle grilling Mark Speakman so I'd say Labor would like to clean house.
@@ogopogo1352 it sounds more like you have a shit Electoral Commission if rural votes are ignored.
I’m surprised anything ever gets done in politics. It’s a lot of “I can’t comment in fear of my career”
My first thought when clicking this was "how long will it take until a question is taken on notice". Barely 2 minutes ...
So slimy, isn't it..... I feel like I need a shower after watching this.
Broadly speaking.....
@@tehownerful And it was a question on notice about a prior question on notice lol.
if you swap `fear` for `corruption` then yes
They'll say Det. Sgt Steve McQueen made an error of judgement because he was under stress at the time and send him on a 6 week paid holiday and have him attend an ethics course.
In regards to the Lancker arrest they'll say that it wasn't common practice to make an arrest without conducting a thorough investigation. However, Det Sgt Cockgobbler received the complaint from a politicians office, so considered the information credible. Furthermore, given the nature of the complaint Det Sgt Cockgobbler had reason to be concerned for the politicians safety. The "It's not my fault".
Come to think of it, this could blow up in the politicians face. Charging him with making a false statement or complaint would be an easy out for the cops. The cops would have a case to, if I recall correctly, Barry Larro made some false claims on TV? The criminal poli draws attention away from the cop who only 'bent the rules a little bit because he was concerend for someone's safety"
This is so revealing and shocking. That text message should be easily retrieved especially with the courtroom time stamp. The receiver should also be easily identified
It is absolutely insane that they can constantly use the phrase "I'll have to take that on notice" even on questions that were asked 5 months ago and their appears to be no consequences for repeatedly dodging the questions in meetings. It's also insane to me that Mark can time and time again state that he "Has not been briefed to his knowledge" on the matter at hand, despite being informed of and stating he would look into the matter 5 months ago and knowing full well that it would be brought up again.
His statement of I haven't discussed this with my colleagues but in the same breath stating that he has engaged in the discourse through social media implies that the case had some amount of interest for him as it has had little to no media coverage yet given his position he never thought to look into the matter further/be briefed on the matter/discuss it with his colleagues. This is just insanity and we quite clearly need some changes but that is just my two cents.
I completely agree. He acts like he was on his way to get a coffee and they dragged him into the room and started firing questions at him. We can rightfully assume he has had ample preparation time, with a good understanding of what will be asked of him, but like last time, nearly every question is either deflected or taken on notice. Any answers he did give were broad and worthless.
It's infuriating isn't it?
Asshole bureaucrats and politicians will be assholes.
@@tracyharrison9536
Completely. It causes one to lose so much confidence in our legal and political systems.
Absolutely disgusting , attorney general makes me sick.
The takeout from this is - The Attorney General doesn't give a shit about police lies, abuse of courts, and framing of defendants via witness coaching and evidence fabrication. The get out clause is that the innocent can complain to an independent body which will then arbitrarily choose 3% of complaints to investigate and allow the illegal acts in the other 97% to stand. The result in the 3% will invariably clear the police to continue their abuses unaffected. Only if people have money do they have any hope of redress, allowing the smarmy AG to sleep easy at night and collect his pay packet for doing jack shit..
"Broadly speaking - your responsibility is to the integrity of the justice system"
Speakman: Yes. Broadly speaking.
Yet he is doing EVERYTHING possible to keep out of this. Non-commital on everything proposed. Claims of ignorance. Deflecting accountabiltiy to being invoked by the general public.
So is he just a coward, or is he part of that corruption I wonder.
If a witness in court subsequently speaks to witnesses who are yet to give evidence, this should be picked up by court staff, and if not, volunteered to the court by the witness. The usual procedure is then for the judge to consider a mis-trial. The reason for this is that any conviction can be appealed using the argument that the court cannot be absolutely sure what was said and therefore cannot prove there was no influence.
In this case there seems to be a double standard with the opinion being along the line of "Talking to witnesses is OK because we can't be sure of what was being said".
I don't think a judge would agree.
This is absolutely mental. The FJ team are kinda becoming the most influential and probing investigative journalists in the country.
Have been for some time mate.
FJ, Chris West Media and TheJuiceMedia are they only media outlets that tell the true story
It’s also sad as well. FJ is tiny compared to groups and organisations out there that should be doing this type of journalistic probing and exposure of corruption or misconduct.
It seems like people either don’t care or they are being paid to look the other way.
M.S.M. would never do it as thewy have no "journalists" employed anymore.
A friends daughter was held pending charges being invented for 8 months while her 18 month old (26months old when released) was with grandpa. Grandpa sold his house and spent 600K to get charges dropped that should never have been made.
That's insane and beyond disgusting. Maybe get them to take it further.....I'd be suing them to get back the legal fees. Sounds like there are large elements of our Police forces that are out of control and go after people based on personal opinion rather than facts or whether the charges will even go anywhere......I bet they knew it would get thrown out eventually amd that it would financially destroy a family to make that happen (that seems to be a very common and vindictive tactic. They seem to measure a cop's performance on the amount of charges laid rather than actual outcomes). Get your freind to refer that to the Ombudsman and the media.
With all due respect, in this video the 13k awarded was for 'Costs' which is what it COST for this level of legal representation.... my uncle is a QC and I know what he 'costs'. I'm pretty sure your friends legal people would have been awarded 'costs' if the case was dropped...
So I'd hate to ask what the charges were if it took soooo long and 600grand!😳
That said, I agree 100% with your sentiment, the legal system and government here is beyond corrupt.
Waaaaaay beyond.
It's said, and I feel for your freind and for her young child.
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it is a far from fair system. I believe you. It defiantly would be that high. its outrageous
Honestly if you Australians comply with this BS without banding together in crowds and using potentially lethal force than you deserve to be treated like the dogs the police think you are. In life you gotta use force and threats if you want to be treated fair
‼️🤡 Many “Heads” should ROLL 🤡‼️
Thank you friendlyjordies for giving me faith in the world and for showing the corrupted cesspool the Australian dream has grotesquely mutated into.
"I haven't been briefed on the matter for which I was brought here today, and it wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment on this matter. I won't be referring this matter for an investigation as I would prefer to wait for someone else to do it, and if I were to do that I am not sure when. I am not sure that we should be viewing this evidence here today, and this evidence is something I would need to consider now that you've raised it as I can't tell from this video what has happened, however, if hypothetically speaking this evidence did raise a concern then I would first wait for someone else to refer it for investigation before I did anything, and I would also need to seek advice on this."
All while consistently repeating "I agree that it's important that the public should have confidence in the integrity of the police force".
The worst part is, he has said, oh well I can't oversee every criminal court case that proceeds in NSW, but Kristo's case has been brought up to him on several occasions, and he hasn't thought during the past year, maybe I should look into this case that's been scrutinised by 100,000s of people and personally brought to my attention.
Without question he knows every single tiny detail about this case because he'd want advanced notice on how or if this could cause backlash against his own department. Literally every single official who has been questioned on this says the same line "I have not been briefed and have been paying little attention to the media coverage". They all want plausible deniability for why they did not investigate corrupt or improper conduct.
And that's because they have no intention to *EVER* investigate corrupt or inappropriate conduct. In my opinion that's the other half of this entire scandal. No legal bodies (unless they are insanely underfunded) have any intention to discipline law enforcement. That makes the police above the law unless it's a high profile case like this one.
@@wafflingmean4477 bang on 👍
not to mention likely the only case connected to the former premier.
He did confirm that he's read about the matter on social media. The implication being that he is happy to get news about the law, not from the law but on social media...
@@wafflingmean4477 Bingo!
It's impressive how he avoids any kind of commitment to an action, he could be Scotty from marketing with how much it's not his job
I agree. Every time there is something he tries to tell the other guy "you might be breaking the law " snake
Sad part is he'll be making a couple hundred thousand plus perks to apparently not have anything to do .
It’s not really a coincidence that he acts like Scromo though is it!
Jordan, this entire situation could be a monumental turning point for your life and career. You have so many avenues you could go down, professionally. It'll be really interesting to see what you do with your career after you've made such a massive impact outside of making funny-yet-informative youtube vids. Should you choose it... you're not in Kansas anymore!
_The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one’s real and one’s declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink._
― George Orwell, “Politics and the English Language"
I haven't been briefed, I wasn't in the room, I don't recall, I wasn't briefed, I don't recall, I'll consider, it wasn't me, I don't, I wasn't, I haven't. . . Seems this amnesia affects ANY and ALL LNP government members.
It's frustrating. These people forget that they are paid by the taxpayer and are meant to be working for the tax payer, not for themselves and their buddies.
I remember a fair bit of that going on during the enquiry into the hotel quarantine fiasco of the Labor party in Victoria. Dan Andrews one of the biggest control freaks in power all of a sudden didn't know a thing about who was telling who to do what, the usual I dont recall Bull Shit. This sort of thing is what politicians do when the shit hits the fan they forget, the media doesn't hold them accountable, the news cycle moves on, everyone forgets.. When are we going to realise that both sides of politics are pretty much as bad as the other. They just have different interests. I heard a great quote about American politics the other day. It went something like. Voting for biden because you hared trump was like eating dog shit because you didn't like broccoli. I dont know the solution but its not labor or liberal. Maybe if we get people like Jordan in power things could be different. These career politicians are certainly not in it for our best interests. That ended up being a lot longer than i anticipated.....
@@paulholmes8398 While I agree with most of your comment, I think you have that "great quote" arse backward matey. The Tangerine Palpatine was one election win away from going full-blown dictator.
@@paulholmes8398 spouting the "both sides are as bad as each other" rhetoric on this channel is rolled gold hilarity
You do realise Jordan vehemently disagrees with that sentiment right?
No, no wait let him finish...no actually that was all he had to say.
Every case in this cops career should be reviewed because no way it's just 2 times he has bent the laws to get his way.
we have the same problems as police worldwide, its just what happens when you give people power over others without independant oversight. if this is what it took to expose a minor issue of a cop overreaching his powers in a public video and the institution closed ranks instead of just dropping the charges and changing.
the scale of the problem is kinda terrifying that this could happen to anyone
Google him!
That is what they are worrying about. Witness tampering in one case is grounds for investigation of every other case he has worked on.
McDairyQueen is a disgrace to Law Enforcement
A 'can't comment' until B reports. B 'can't comment' until C reports. C 'can't comment' until A reports.
The simplest question that should have been put to him was "You said you would not draw conclusions, however you must agree that based on the video footage, the actions of the police officer in question don't look good, do they?"
"If police are investigating police, nothing will happen" EXACTLY.
Shows they know full well they cover up their own corrupt practices.
"If we're just relying on police investigating police, we wouldn't get anywhere" I'm glad someone said it. My small town is where all the cops that messed up go instead of getting fired. So if you're on your p plates you get harassed that's why i have dashcam now, i haven't a problem since. It's the first thing they look for too
I'd be getting rid of it and setting up a Gopro in the car that can record out of your driver's side window.
Then get a Lawyer, make some money
Would they not just smash your dash cam if they so bad?
@@SirMeowingCat Most cars have 2 dash cams set up and well even then it prob would still be recording into it got smashed so more evidence aka the cop is now extra fucked
Sutherland Command is right up there.
If you lodge a complaint, they pretend to investigate.
While this is happening you get pulled over every time you go past a police car in "the shire".
Then they call you to tell you that it's ok for a police member to be racist and bigoted and epistemic violence is ok.
Then the next night you get dragged from your home, physically threatened and left 15 km away.
I ended up leaving the state, because I knew the bashing was imminent, and there was nothing I could do about it.
@@MartintheTinman 🤣🤣🤙❤️
This is classic government department behaviour. When the workload is low, the justification for continuing to fund the department comes under question, and so it is up to the department to 'make work for itself', in order to continue to justify its existence. In Australia, we've had relatively few terror attacks, by fortune or perhaps because of the work of other anti-terror units more competent than this one, and so the existence of a unit such as this, with all the funding that goes with it, comes under scrutiny. You see this in government departments around the world - it's not unusual behaviour to want to secure your own existence, and comes back to the basic Darwinism of organisations, which is the need to survive at all costs. I suspect that the willingness of this department to be of use to Mr Barilaro, and way way out of its remit, runs along these lines. No-one is questioning the need for departments such as these to be created; the problem is therefore to find a way to secure the existence of departments without them needing to resort to creating work for themselves in this way, which is clearly not in their remit, and in the process, trample over the basic tenets of a democracy, free speech and the principle of a free press, which has clearly happened in this case.
As for coaching witnesses in a court, and running back and forth between the case and the witnesses, well, if that's what was happening, that just takes it to whole new level.
Government and Police transparency is best thought of like this - take a sheet of a very transparent material, such as glass. Keep continually adding layers upon layers upon layers, until the refraction and impurities between the layers obscure the vision so far that you can't see what's on the other side of all the layers.
Every layer can claim to be perfectly transparent, and yet through all those layers you can't see whats going on on the other side.
Speakman: 'Its not about insufficient resources it's about selection'
Shoebridge: 'No the LECC financial reports consistently report they are under funded'
Caught lying through his teeth.
Why are they forced to be so selective? Oh.
They dont have unlimited resources, priorty will always be given to complaints with more merit.
"When did they say that?"
"recently."
"yes, well, these groups are currently handing in reports on their funding requirements."
GREAT. SO GLAD WE CLEARED THAT. THAT *STILL* MEANS THEY HAVE INSUFFICIENT RESOURCES!
It’s obvious that the Attorney General had received coaching for this sitting, and convenient that the police commissioner was absent on this day.
"I will need to take that on notice"
I really wish i could just say that to every question that ever got asked to me and get away with it
This Attorney General just tried to avoid his job for the entire duration of this video.
How can an Attorney General see something as plain as day and not be concerned enough on the face of it to immediately commit to having it investigated, shows he is a coward.
Or that he's working with the cops
@@mason2307 Probably is. Probably has BBQ's with them on the weekends.
Waiting for Member of public to raise the matter before the police address the matter when they know the matter exists is beyond me 😳🤨
It's bullshit aye. I get a written warning for flipping off a co worker and this C you next Tuesday gets the blind eye for using tax payer's money and police resources to throw weight. Shame shame to the blue group.
FJ's 615k subs members of public, a lot of complaints should be made today
LNP reacts it’s not proactive.
We might do something if someone else bothers doing something first. But even then we might not do anything.
Well said!
People shouldn't fear the government, the government should be fearful of their people.
Thank you for ensuring this sees the light of day AND for pursuing this to the extent that it may set precedent and/or give pause to others seeking to behave in a similar manner.
What the hell is the point of an MP in a position of oversight if he cannot confirm he will look into a matter raised in a parliamentary questioning?
Adam Searle on form. David Shoebridge made a great point - what exactly is a person to do if they can't afford proper legal representation?
The way he smiles the whole time knowing he's going to get away with terrorizing the public for the millionth time. Utterly incensing.
Love that Adam Searle's text tone is the TARDIS noise
Pretty amazing to see the channel go from GURNZY THE IRON STOMACH to taking on the Dept of Justice.
Proud to support you guys. Keep it up.
I miss gurnzy
This is my fourth.
You can REALLY tell he's a career politician. In addition like Mr. Shoebridge said it was a matter of accidental good fortune that Lanko had the backing to even get bogus charges dropped in the first place.
Lawyer: "Will you investigate clearly illegal and dishonest behaviour by Police Officers in the courts?"
Minister: "I'll have to ask me mum"
The verbal and mental gymnastics that the AG/Minister uses to avoid his duty to the public is amazing.
30 minutes of the attorney telling the politicians he pretty much doesn't have a job, everything is down to a private citizen making a complaint.
So why is the taxpayer pumping this blokes bank account for a do nothing job that has no purpose?
Exactely. Where is the Quality Improvement?
For this officer to have gone to these lengths to-
a) Begun the investigation of "Rob" and his daughter, let alone Jordan's program/producer.
b) Brought before his boss, the DPP and the courts these matters.
c) Been caught apparently "coaching" witnesses both in and out of courtrooms.
It begs the question, how many other cases has this one police officer attempted to influence ?
It cannot have been just these two.
More importantly, don't overlook the arsehole teachers that made the complaint to the cops to begin with. No complaint, no cops, no court.
Justice no such thing it's only JustUs against them the ones in power.
Faaarrrk this is a brilliant arse kicking … If only this was being broadcast on all media outlets in NSW in full? Great work kid’s auntie Jo is so proud of you all!
Those videos may not remove all deniability, but even the AG didn't say that what was likely happening wasn't obvious, more so that what was being claimed couldn't be proven absolutely.
This guy is sidestepping questions like they're landmines, we should send him to Ukraine. The questioner is amazing. 2-3% of complaints against police are investigated and probably the richest, best legally represented complaintants.
Yeah searle is based af, so is the Queen guy who goes second, the same guy who eviscerated beradjikliface about her corruption..
@@UNcommonSenseAUS And yet she will never been charged of anything and she'll probably end up prime minister one day
@@BibleStorm good propaganda bot
I couldn't handle it like Searle. Five minutes into talking to him and I'd be unable to stop myself from just saying "Are you taking the piss? This is one of the largest, most important cases of the past year and you're repeatedly telling me that you as the first law officer haven't taken the time out of your oh so busy day to get acquainted with even the barest matter of the case? A twelve your old child could see how contemptuous you are, and how obsessed you are with dodging these questions with replies that are, if not blatant lies, indications that you should not hold the position you do. Five months ago you dodged everything with the same claim of ignorance. It's your job to fucking know. If you don't know, it shouldn't be your job."
The fact that this minister has every capability to refer the police misconduct to the LEC and is choosing not to because a private citizen “might” choose to submit their own complaint is a joke. Sorry minister can no more than one complaint be submitted to the LEC regarding a particular matter? What a ridiculous sentiment. Is the LEC only have the resourcing to examine 2-3% of all submissions he would know that a submission from him as the attorney general would get investigated asap. They’re all in bed together and no one wants to hold anyone accountable. Disappointing for NSW taxpayers.
"I will only do my job if someone forces me to"
@@yt.personal.identification And even then I won't, but I'll take it on notice.
Adam Searle just got 100x better TARDIS RINGTONE!! Absolute legend
That man is a master of his craft. They way he directed the line of questioning was magnificent
Saw this yesterday, basically they have no plans to do anything to fix any of their screw ups. He basically says that it's going to take public pressure to make them do anything. Even then I have my doubts about them actually accomplishing anything in the way of reform without significant pressure.
@@AlwaysPossible100 I think every single one of these guys should be sacked personally. I'm also a believer that the court system should not be paid to play unless people are filing frivolous claims. It shouldn't have to cost us an arm and a leg to prove that we are innocent when the onus of guilt is on the judicial system.
@@nemonada3501 . It's pretty much just about the money, so that'll never happen
It's embarrassing that the police officer was so blatantly interfering with witnesses and coaching them.
Plausible deniability is one hell of a legal defence sadly
its satisfying watching these questions get asked of an AG, but it is inciting to hear the answers. what a quandary
There is a fundamental problem with the government model of criminality. There is no responsibility, and never will be, for making people answer false charges. At best the rest of the taxpayers compensate the defense lawyers (but not the defendants) for their time. But the stress, loss of reputation, disordering of your life and time is never going to be compensated unless it's an obvious frame up, and usually not then. If it is compensated, again the taxpayers are the ones who pay, not the perpetrator.
Monopoly government must end, death to the State (meaning the monopoly of force).
I love it. /s
“We’re only going to pretend to investigate ourselves if a member of the public has the means and initiative to raise concerns with how we do our job, behind closed doors.”
its like talking to a teenager "i can't remember", "i dunno", "ill find out later", "lets not jump to conclusions", "thats not my job"
So basically, "I'm not really concerned or interested in investigating or finding out anything, unless I'm forced to by a 3rd party making a specific allegation, irrespective of the clearly concerning video and revelations of the ridiculous behaviour of this special police task force in arresting someone without warrant and prosecuting them without evidence." Awesome, exactly the level of concern for public safety and integrity of the entire criminal court system that you'd hope to see from the responsible official... /s
It's now officially too politically dangerous to show appropriate concern and make any kind of promise to get to the bottom of things ... for fear of appearing to lend credence to the accusations - that's how hard they are trying to hose this down and hope the fire will go out. Pathetic.
Wow to be a fly on the wall when the AG left that committee. Jordan and his team just Hoodoused the fixated persons unit like a boss.
Also and unrelated could we get a Spanian Jordan team up for a MAFs review if he's up for it. I think you two ripping on that show at the same time would be glorious.
The vibe im getting from Mark Speakman is, "yeah i see this, but im not going to do anything. The public needs to do something if they want something done"
Which is to vote their party out at the next election.
Half an hour for the guy to say "Will you investigate this?" and for him to reply "Meh, I'll maybe think about it."
No wonder shit takes so long to get done.
The audio clarity on this is phenomenal
"Yes I am responsible for making sure these kinds of things don't happen due to it being my job, but that doesn't make me responsible for me personally not doing my job"
I translated this from politician to English using Google Translate, and it pretty much sums up everything.
The AG mentioned many times that these events may only be investigated if a private citizen lodges a complaint with the LECC. If allowed, Xenophon Davis may like to advertise instructions on their website for those private citizens who would like to lodge such a complaint.
Any person may make a report to LECC of misconduct. However, being that they are very lightly resourced, it’s likely to do more harm than good.
Any NSW Public Official may also make a complaint, either on behalf of a citizen, or under their own concern of corruption or impropriety.
I can’t imagine a situation where Jordan and Kristo won’t make that complaint. And if they don’t, the AG as good as confirmed he will.
@@UncySpam he will in his own time frame.
@@bari2883 In months if not years as ‘as you know I don’t know about every case’ lol what a Teflon weasel.. how could you miss such a highly publicised case..?!
no, you misinterpreted it. There is no 'may'.
@@UncySpam True. No surprises that a commission like the LECC is underfunded. Thousands of jordies viewers bombarding them may do more harm than good. Jordan maybe your next video could be in conjunction with XD, outlining *effective* ways for your viewers to formally/officially express concerns re the issues you've been reporting, to ensure they're properly investigated.
Well that political puppet, Speakman, had his deflector shield turned up into overdrive. He was dodging and weaving and taking evasive action and it is beyond obvious that he knew far more about the Kristo issue than meets the eye. Kudos to Searle and the other guy for making him squirm in his seat;-/ we know of course that it will require more action from 'a private citizen' to get Mcqueen his just deserts.
I can't believe that a matter such Kristo's, the Attorney General knows nothing about it other than what he's seen on social media.
He is full of sh*t.
He has categorically stated that hes not bothered by any of it. Let a member of the public complain. If they dont, he might consider thinking about the possibility of at some point doing a thing. Possibly.
@@fireskycam9889 it honestly appeared as if he hadn't seen the footage of McQueaf - total arrogant fkr. Was great to see that slimy grin wiped off his face when he was shown it.
Since when are mobile phones allowed in court rooms?
@@gavinsmith8375 it's not illegal to have them in there, but they must be switched off before you enter. The NSW local court identifies that it is an offence to take photos with them or to use audio recording, but strangely says nothing of taking video or sending texts. Permission to use the devices must be sought from a judicial officer - a judge, associate judge and in limited cases the registrar.
So either the judge is in on it or something illegal has happened, I suspect.
"MAY be referred to the law enforcement corruption comission"
FARK OFF
How convenient that the police Minister was absent .
And the AG constantly smirking and laughing like it's a big joke.
I've requested an investigation as a 'private citizen' into this matter directly to Mark Speakman. That's what he wanted.... Right??
Charges were brought forward by police based on a POLITICIAN’S Statement.
It is the responsibility of this Minister to consider this matter expediently in order to ensure public confidence.
“ I know nothing , nothing “ Shultz would be proud 😂
Now there's some misdirection. I've engaged the LECC on behalf of a third party without involvement of the third party. It doesn't need a complainant or the responsible minister to initiate an investigation, that's why there's a Chief Commissioner. Anyone can give Reg Blanch a call.
I'm 1 minute in and they've already had to take something "on notice" that they were asked 4 months ago to find out 😂
"No recolection" is just a way for them to Lie on record with impunity
What a cop-out!! waiting for a member of the public to do what, write a complaint letter? Instead of taking responsibility for the integrity of the system. 🤬🤬🤬
Attorney General Mark Speakman has been allowed set the trigger for doing his job as a period of negligent inaction that lasts from months to years to see if a person of the public will do his job for him. He is also allowed to ignore alarming information in the public domain that strongly indicates he should take the necessary action for which he is obviously being overpaid.
Maybe there should be a Disinterested Persons Unit in the NSW Police Force.
I'd love to see mcqueen questioned in front of one of these boards, THAT would be an interesting (and possibly funny) watch.
Pardon my ignorance but why would this guy be fronting such an inquiry without having brought himself up to speed on what went on. This demonstrates absolute contempt for the inquiry, the people of N.S.W. and the rule of law. He called himself the first law officer. What does that mean if not that responsibility ultimately lies with him. I think he knows how much this stinks and is trying to hide behind a plea of ignorance when that is a clearly an indefensible position for him to adopt. He should not be claiming to not know. He is paid by the people of N.S.W to know. If that is beyond his capacity he should resign immediately. No ifs, no buts and no maybes. Do the job or get out, damn the politics.
"Beyond his capacity" sounds like you hit the nail on the head!
It does not matter that we can’t hear what was said. What matters is why the police officer was there and going in and out of courtroom to consistently talk to other witnesses. Whichever case this is they should appeal on that. Looks like collision.
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