I think whatever the next big coaster was supposed to be got pushed back because of covid and then cancelled due to the accident. they used the resources for the big coaster to rework dragster. Cedar Fair obviously made some sort of deal with Zamperla because we got the wild mouse and Carowinds got a few new Zamperla flat rides in addition to TT2. I hope TT2 is successful for everyone's sake
I 100% think they are going to spend as little capital as possible because lending terms right now are not ideal and they are occupied with the Six Flags merger. I expect nothing new for the next 12 months.
There was speculation of Monstrosity coming to life after the accident on TTD. I want something like that spanning the length of the park, front to back, full of speed, banked turns, and 500feet!
Lol...Tony Clark says things just to play with silly enthusiasts that make videos like this, Take nothing he says that isn't in a press release as truth, everything else is essentially playful banter
They aren’t doing anything to Corkscrew any time soon. They are not moving anything out back there either, and that maintenance building there is going to be very difficult to move everything out of.
You must not go enough. There’s always someone on corkscrew lol. I go 4-5 times a year and every time the cars are full with people in line. Same with Gemini.
@@rustyshacklefordrefined5756 can’t and won’t happen. The T-Rex, for all that we know, is cancelled. They haven’t promoted it at IAAPA whatsoever in years. Plus, Cedar Fair doesn’t want to buy anything from RMC until they fix their reliability problems, which they haven’t done at all. If they can’t make two prototypes in 2018, I wouldn’t want to buy another prototype from them given the issues Steel Vengeance and RailBlazer both have to this day. And all of the buildings behind corkscrew are unable to be moved without the construction of a new facility.
Honestly this would be Tony playing 4D chess. This would explain why cedar fair went with zamperla for this redo. First, it'll allow the park to see what Zamperla can do Second, it's cheaper than intamin so they're obviously saving money for some reason (hopefully for a new coaster and not a new park bench) Third and most importantly it's a distraction for all of us. While we're working out why they chose Zamperla instead of intamin, the park might be working on the next insane ride
I think they are going with Zamperla to save money cuz of all the debt they're in, which is one of the reason they merged with six flags. I don't think any parks will do something record-breaking or gigantic anytime soon until some of the debt has been payed, but idk thats just me.
If Cedar Point can obtain property off the island for parking, the island itself has much more real-estate that is currently parking lot they could use.
CP isn’t building without demolishing lol. They don’t even need new coasters right now because their reputation for being the best amusement park in the eastern United States still holds up. And for revenue to be down, I can’t seem to go when it’s not busy. lol. I think from here on it’s gonna be about family attractions to draw the most money unfortunately. The coaster wars are long gone.
Cedar point is my home park, been going every year(outside of Covid year) since 1999, had a Fast Lane Plus annual pass last year and went 25 times. I loved Dragster and got a rollback on my first ride ever, but I have to admit, im not excited for TT2 at all and my disappointment is so drastic that im not even getting a season pass this year, ive decided to plan a trip to Hersheypark, Kings Island, Busch Gardens Williamsburg, and Carrowinds instead of CP. I hope youre right, and they add something else on top of TT2 because TT2 seems like a gigantic downgrade to TTD. I hope im wrong and it ends up being great.
I’m guessing they are done with new coasters, they are running out of land. The dragster was supposed to be bigger, but cp was unwilling to demolish Gemini
The only way I see them building a new coaster is they use the left over land from forbidden frontier and as he mentioned build a woodie around Millennium Force
I have heard "Cedar Point is running out of land" for well over 20 years on web forums, and when new rides were announced it was always a "how are they fitting a ride there?!". They have land they can use still even without removing rides. Also, Dragster was NOT supposed to be bigger. The first designs for TTD included a magnetic launch (if I recall correctly), but it would have taking a fair bit more space to get up to 120MPH. That is why there was talk of them possibly removing Gemini. When the decision was made to go with a hydraulic launch they were able to put the ride into its current footprint.
Dont forget the huge parking lot as room for additions... parking can be moved onto the main land.. There are parking garages that can handle the cars and provide some kind of shuttle
@@somewhatchewyno, they just tear down other attractions. You know like the log ride so they could install raptor or disaster transport and space needle for gate keeper. They tore down another water ride to install maverick
I was told a while back from several different sources that RMC plans for the first Trex to go to Adventureland not far from RMC headquarters so they can monitor it before mass production.
I think both options might be built, and maybe for the GCI they take out mine ride (that is about to reach the end of service), RMC Trex replacing corkscrew would be a godsend too
I can definitely agree with Theme Park Predictions dude on that 😂😅 but to bad it probably won't happen for a few years until after they get out of dept. What they should focus on is putting a few of these at their smaller park so those smaller parks can make some money 🤑🤑🤑🤑💰
I think that’s a good idea, they could have done so much more with tt2. Maybe they were trying to save as much as possible, but still get the marketing value and the ride re opened, while planning something way better.
To be honest I don't think that RMC t rex is the only thing that could top SV in the park. I'm talking about 2 models from 2 different manufacturers. And that's Intamin blitz, which is however VERY unlikely to happen, because they already have maverick. But it could top it from another park. And the second which is a bit more likely, but also probably won't happen is Mack hyper. Look at what they've done with Hyperia, that thing looks absolutely mental! Could you actually imagine a mack hyper with xtreme spinner seats? I think that a coaster longer than Hyperia with a similar layout and a spinning seats could top it actually quite easily
It was shelved due to RMC’s poor work on Steel Vengeance. COVID had nothing to do with it. The RMC-Cedar Fair relationship is permanently damaged and there wont be another RMC in the chain any time soon.
Covid had ALOT to do with it. Everything was pushed back 1 to 2 years. As their relationship with RMC, who knows what will happen. Remember, never say never.
@@876portturbo I mean, Intamin still hasn’t moved on from their past. They’ve gotten better, but they still have Sandor there and they still have problems. Plus, they don’t really offer anything that they can’t get for cheaper from Zamperla or more reliable from Mack. RMC is whole different beast. Their reliability hasn’t improved at all, I’d argue it’s only gotten worse with every new ride of theirs always having problems.
@@Channeldeleted_0 The horrendous reliability issues it still faces to this day. And the fact all of their other models still have terrible reliability and aren’t as appealing to guests. The rerideability is affected by the long lines because of RMC’s aversion to capacity. Their trains are awful and uncomfortable, and many guests in good health can’t ride due to their horrible train designs. I highly recommend watching the video ElToroRyan made on Steel Vengeance to go into more detail as to how poorly made this ride was. The downtime it faced in 2018 is unacceptable and if you don’t understand why they wouldn’t want to work with them afterwards, I can’t say I’d want you as the GM of the park.
If they are going to do a wooden coaster, then they should go with Gravity Group over GCI. Gravity Group makes better large-scale but compact coasters. One traversing through Adventure Island would be insane!
Well since Dragster was a distraction from how bad Millenium Force was maybe they can finally tear that waste of space down and build something that doesn’t put me to sleep.
I think whatever the next big coaster was supposed to be got pushed back because of covid and then cancelled due to the accident. they used the resources for the big coaster to rework dragster. Cedar Fair obviously made some sort of deal with Zamperla because we got the wild mouse and Carowinds got a few new Zamperla flat rides in addition to TT2. I hope TT2 is successful for everyone's sake
Considering the coaster that came after Steel Vengeance was Wild Mouse I don’t know how much water Clark’s words still hold
I 100% think they are going to spend as little capital as possible because lending terms right now are not ideal and they are occupied with the Six Flags merger. I expect nothing new for the next 12 months.
I’ve heard that management absolutely LOVED velocicoaster and want to recreate something similar in their own image if possible
Guess who offers a relatively cheap LSM launch coaster with a wide variety of elements.. Zamperla.
@@itdbfrtwthm their new blitz concepts looks good
Cedar point doesn’t only need massive massive rides, the T. rex looks awesome but I like the GCI too it’d be a fun ride that would be great for anyone
There was speculation of Monstrosity coming to life after the accident on TTD. I want something like that spanning the length of the park, front to back, full of speed, banked turns, and 500feet!
great vid. keep the content coming. I just subbed
Lol...Tony Clark says things just to play with silly enthusiasts that make videos like this, Take nothing he says that isn't in a press release as truth, everything else is essentially playful banter
CP needs to be the first park to break 500 feet. Nothing less at this point.
Too late. Six Flags Qiddiya went over 600ft with Falcons Flight.
@@shanedenmark5536 damn that's crazy
I 100% believe they are going to replace corkscrew. No one rides it and they’ve been prepping that area by moving stuff out.
They aren’t doing anything to Corkscrew any time soon. They are not moving anything out back there either, and that maintenance building there is going to be very difficult to move everything out of.
@@itdbfrtwthm rides in front of corkscrew were moved to boardwalk c this idea they need a massive amount of land to build something is inaccurate
You must not go enough. There’s always someone on corkscrew lol. I go 4-5 times a year and every time the cars are full with people in line. Same with Gemini.
RMC Trex there, new corkscrew with a similar layout with more airtime. Make it happen.
@@rustyshacklefordrefined5756 can’t and won’t happen. The T-Rex, for all that we know, is cancelled. They haven’t promoted it at IAAPA whatsoever in years. Plus, Cedar Fair doesn’t want to buy anything from RMC until they fix their reliability problems, which they haven’t done at all. If they can’t make two prototypes in 2018, I wouldn’t want to buy another prototype from them given the issues Steel Vengeance and RailBlazer both have to this day. And all of the buildings behind corkscrew are unable to be moved without the construction of a new facility.
Even if they get the raptor, I will still love steel vengeance more
Honestly this would be Tony playing 4D chess. This would explain why cedar fair went with zamperla for this redo.
First, it'll allow the park to see what Zamperla can do
Second, it's cheaper than intamin so they're obviously saving money for some reason (hopefully for a new coaster and not a new park bench)
Third and most importantly it's a distraction for all of us. While we're working out why they chose Zamperla instead of intamin, the park might be working on the next insane ride
I think they are going with Zamperla to save money cuz of all the debt they're in, which is one of the reason they merged with six flags. I don't think any parks will do something record-breaking or gigantic anytime soon until some of the debt has been payed, but idk thats just me.
They better be
If Cedar Point can obtain property off the island for parking, the island itself has much more real-estate that is currently parking lot they could use.
I think a mack extreme spinner is the only possible thing that they could make to top it with space in mind
Definitely see where you’re coming from..
@@Coastainment yeah I think a tres would be too similar and they don’t have a good spinner rn
CP isn’t building without demolishing lol. They don’t even need new coasters right now because their reputation for being the best amusement park in the eastern United States still holds up. And for revenue to be down, I can’t seem to go when it’s not busy. lol.
I think from here on it’s gonna be about family attractions to draw the most money unfortunately. The coaster wars are long gone.
Cedar point is my home park, been going every year(outside of Covid year) since 1999, had a Fast Lane Plus annual pass last year and went 25 times. I loved Dragster and got a rollback on my first ride ever, but I have to admit, im not excited for TT2 at all and my disappointment is so drastic that im not even getting a season pass this year, ive decided to plan a trip to Hersheypark, Kings Island, Busch Gardens Williamsburg, and Carrowinds instead of CP. I hope youre right, and they add something else on top of TT2 because TT2 seems like a gigantic downgrade to TTD. I hope im wrong and it ends up being great.
Since around 1976 for me 👋😉
I’m 54, been going since I was 6 years old. Every single year since.
I think TT2 will be great. Time will tell
When you do ride ttd2 let us know what you think of it
@@DonWilsonSr. I will, next year.
I’m guessing they are done with new coasters, they are running out of land. The dragster was supposed to be bigger, but cp was unwilling to demolish Gemini
The only way I see them building a new coaster is they use the left over land from forbidden frontier and as he mentioned build a woodie around Millennium Force
I have heard "Cedar Point is running out of land" for well over 20 years on web forums, and when new rides were announced it was always a "how are they fitting a ride there?!". They have land they can use still even without removing rides.
Also, Dragster was NOT supposed to be bigger. The first designs for TTD included a magnetic launch (if I recall correctly), but it would have taking a fair bit more space to get up to 120MPH. That is why there was talk of them possibly removing Gemini. When the decision was made to go with a hydraulic launch they were able to put the ride into its current footprint.
@@somewhatchewythank you! It always makes me laugh when people spew misinformation like they are an executive for Cedar Fair lol.
Dont forget the huge parking lot as room for additions... parking can be moved onto the main land.. There are parking garages that can handle the cars and provide some kind of shuttle
@@somewhatchewyno, they just tear down other attractions. You know like the log ride so they could install raptor or disaster transport and space needle for gate keeper. They tore down another water ride to install maverick
I was told a while back from several different sources that RMC plans for the first Trex to go to Adventureland not far from RMC headquarters so they can monitor it before mass production.
Extreme spinner on adventure island spot. The T-rex you mentioned in the plot where corkscrew is
Regardless I will be there the last week of Aug.
I think both options might be built, and maybe for the GCI they take out mine ride (that is about to reach the end of service), RMC Trex replacing corkscrew would be a godsend too
I believe T-Rex is correct but not location. With the merger and 2024 being Corckscrew's exit year that opens a nice plot
Only catch is it seems as if Cedar Fair does not have an active relationship with RMC
I can definitely agree with Theme Park Predictions dude on that 😂😅 but to bad it probably won't happen for a few years until after they get out of dept. What they should focus on is putting a few of these at their smaller park so those smaller parks can make some money 🤑🤑🤑🤑💰
Theme park Brandon is egotistical and in this for making money not the roller coasters. His ego is bigger then any coaster ever made.
Listen to the speech at the train reveal at iapa. They say something big is coming in the near future.
I think that’s a good idea, they could have done so much more with tt2. Maybe they were trying to save as much as possible, but still get the marketing value and the ride re opened, while planning something way better.
To be honest I don't think that RMC t rex is the only thing that could top SV in the park. I'm talking about 2 models from 2 different manufacturers. And that's Intamin blitz, which is however VERY unlikely to happen, because they already have maverick. But it could top it from another park. And the second which is a bit more likely, but also probably won't happen is Mack hyper. Look at what they've done with Hyperia, that thing looks absolutely mental! Could you actually imagine a mack hyper with xtreme spinner seats? I think that a coaster longer than Hyperia with a similar layout and a spinning seats could top it actually quite easily
yeh, i agree. I think top thrill 2 was just filler for something bigger
great video!
It was shelved due to RMC’s poor work on Steel Vengeance. COVID had nothing to do with it. The RMC-Cedar Fair relationship is permanently damaged and there wont be another RMC in the chain any time soon.
Covid had ALOT to do with it. Everything was pushed back 1 to 2 years. As their relationship with RMC, who knows what will happen. Remember, never say never.
Can’t work with Intamin or RMC? makes you wonder who’s the problem
POOR WORK ON STEEL VENGEANCE?! It is widely known as the best roller coaster in the world. What do you mean “poor work”
@@876portturbo I mean, Intamin still hasn’t moved on from their past. They’ve gotten better, but they still have Sandor there and they still have problems. Plus, they don’t really offer anything that they can’t get for cheaper from Zamperla or more reliable from Mack.
RMC is whole different beast. Their reliability hasn’t improved at all, I’d argue it’s only gotten worse with every new ride of theirs always having problems.
@@Channeldeleted_0 The horrendous reliability issues it still faces to this day. And the fact all of their other models still have terrible reliability and aren’t as appealing to guests. The rerideability is affected by the long lines because of RMC’s aversion to capacity. Their trains are awful and uncomfortable, and many guests in good health can’t ride due to their horrible train designs. I highly recommend watching the video ElToroRyan made on Steel Vengeance to go into more detail as to how poorly made this ride was. The downtime it faced in 2018 is unacceptable and if you don’t understand why they wouldn’t want to work with them afterwards, I can’t say I’d want you as the GM of the park.
if this will happen it’s gonna be sick duee
If they are going to do a wooden coaster, then they should go with Gravity Group over GCI. Gravity Group makes better large-scale but compact coasters. One traversing through Adventure Island would be insane!
People have come to expect CP to introduce rollercoasters which top their previous. They need to look forward to the 500ft mark.
Well since Dragster was a distraction from how bad Millenium Force was maybe they can finally tear that waste of space down and build something that doesn’t put me to sleep.
MilF is the best coaster on the planet earth.
"put you to sleep"????? lol, you may need to just take up wing suit flying.
You might want to see a doctor and be checked for narcolepsy.
Millennium Force is not bad! I like it. We are in titled to our own opinions.
This is the last season for corkscrew. Something will take its place
Cedar point is going to get cut back since it is no longer the flagship park.
who do you think is the flagship park???
Not sure why you think steel vengeance is all that great. It’s ok at best. Not in the top 5 at the park though
bro what
Who payed you to say that!?!?!?!
Mean streak was ok with the rough track. The new steel is ok at best. Not a top attraction
@@briankaiser3787 dawg is 100% a gwazi glazer
Don’t know what that means