Madison Scouts 1991/1992 || Phantom Regiment 1996 || Aged Out Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024
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Hosts of the Aged Out Podcast, Mike Fantini and Evan Worrell, react to the Madison Scouts from 1991 and 1992 as well as Phantom Regiment from 1996.
Original Videos:
• Madison Scouts 1991 - ...
• Madison Scouts 1992 - ...
• Phantom Regiment 1996 ...
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Thank you for featuring these classic shows. I don't hate modern drum corps but I wouldn't say it has improved. I don't watch these old shows with disappointment, thinking "man this is so lame; it would be so much better if they danced around, had more props and electronics, costumes, etc.". They marched and played and looked cool while doing it. I will say that it is more difficult for me to enjoy DCI shows pre-1985ish because, as a percussionist, the writing and the front ensembles leave a lot to be desired. For me, the golden age of drum corps was 1990-2010 or so, much like the NBA LOL!
The horns (sops) at the end of the drum feature are insane!
'92 Vanguard drumline was insane. All season. Legends among that line 😎
I played tenors in Madison 92. I loved our show. I'm glad you enjoyed the solo. And yes, I can't tell you how loud and how much the horn line would make my skin crawl when they came in at the end of our solo. Mind blowing.
I was a cadet in 96. Cool to see you guys look back. It was a crazy summer. The Olympics was a great experience but took a lot of time and extra work...we probably paid for that at finals. Bd cavies phantom all had great shows. The soloist for Madison was insane. Always liked catching him....
I marched snare in 91 Phantom Cadets and 92 Northern Aurora (also 94 Phantom, where Lee was with us about half the summer) so got many good looks at both Madison lines (including at least one early-season rehearsal) and they were the real deal. I remember being (and still am) amazed that the dude on the left end of the 91 snare line switched to tenors in 92! Also FWIW I learned to play rolls on Kevlar heads…they were pretty standard by the time I started auditioning for Phantom in 1989.
Both Crossmen 2002 and 2004 would be great early 2000’s lines to react to!
1992 crossmen! That line is legendary
I was 13 in 92 and crossmen was the first thing I’ve ever seen of dci. I was totally blown away. How they grooved fascinated me. Bluecoats today are groovy, but no one ever grooves like them again. 91-94 always!!!! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@@henne2k i actually marched crossmen in the 00's and the thurston years were always hyped along with the Lee beedis years
@@HumbertoTamezJr I send a VHS tape from Germany to them in 2000. Never heard back. Didn´t even knew if it reached them. Brutal back than compared to today. Ended up in Kiwanis Kavaliers that Summer :)
Finally!
Someone finally noted how we had to "dig" on a mylar head, versus, today's Kevlar and the high tensile surface augmenting a rapid rebound. As such, I would suggest today's Corp (since Kevlar) produces a much cleaner and more "technical" book. Fantastic talent from today's snare players!
-60's snare.
Awesome video guys!!!
That's correct, guys. BD won percussion in 1996. The top few lines were very close leading into finals. I was on the field at Nats retreat before the scores were announced (in the BD snare line) trying to do the math - trying to figure out how we’d place if they were averaging over all three nights vs just having a finals night winner. Turns out we (BD) got both. That was a confusing thing there for a couple / few years.
You guys nailed it - the flams in the 90’s were so awesome. My first year of drum corps was 92. (I marched Freelancers from 92-94, BD in 96). My personal guess (as a snare drummer from the time, never an arranger, never an instructor, etc.) was that the flam vocabulary / chops had arrived thanks to the 80’s guys who figured out how to play everything, and the tempos had not yet gone through the roof. So tempos were slow enough to squeeze flams in all over the place. A good time to be a marching member for sure!!!
92 Madison is about the best example I can think of of a snareline playing tons of notes, completely relaxed / buttery smooth. I still play that solo on a pad all the time to this day!!! (A transcription appeared in the short-lived Rudimental Percussionist magazine, which was an amazing magazine in the pre-internet universe we all drummed in back then...).
Love the podcast you guys!!!
Post a pic of that solo? I had those magazines but don’t know where they went.
@@andrewmroch1920
Trying to post a pic. Can you do that on youtube?
I put it into Finale a couple decades ago...
Thanks for the history there. I think those stories are timeless, and I always enjoy hearing them.
So cool that y'all used the video I posted for Scouts '92!! That drum feature was EVERYTHING when I was growing up. 1992 is definitely in my top years of DCI. Keep up the great content!
Love the 92 scouts drum break
One of the most musical ones. So tasty
To answer your question, Blue Devils did win drums in 1996. “Club Blue: A Gangster Chronicle” the show was called.
91, 92, 93, 94, 97 Crossmen? Mark Thurston era. and 90's flam vocab!
I forgot the 96 crossmen. starting the show with the solo!
BD 96 def deserves a reaction video for sure! Other favorite lines I have from the 90s are Crossmen 92, SCV 98, and Cavies 92!
BD 96 is one of my favorite shows overall and the drumline is killer. Too bad they choked during their feature in finals. Epic timing tear tarnish 😢
Nice job!
Just to tag onto my Wheaters comments on Lee interview video, here's the credited 1996 staff
Kirk Gay - Caption Coordinator / arranger
Lee Beddis - Arranger
Jarede Brown (yeah bass)
Frank Chapple
Al Dunn
JJ Pepitone
Kirk was the founder of The Wheaters. He's not in the marching activity anymore would be an interesting interview.
1993 Scouts have a killer drum solo too and break into a groove beat in the middle
92 Scouts is the line that made a humble contrabass player like me want to play marching percussion, which I did in college.
Shout out the Erik Janson, Arjuna Contreras, and Nemo (87-92) of the 90s scouts lines btw. Good peeps
1994 Scouts drum line was insanely good
Awesome! For the next Beddis video (2000s Beddis lines), I’d recommend Crossmen 2002 as well as the Crown and Scouts ’13 lines. Good line, averaged 6th that year, had a young Tim Jackson on quads.
That 02 snare and bass lines were NASTY
sup Mergician
Would love to see 05/06 Scouts too- 06 had a killer book and some real serious hitters!
@@PercussionImprovisations Yo Nick!
Those early 2000 X-men lines were so good. Beddis lines were just overall meaty. You always knew when you were watching his line.
It wasn’t unusual for corps to repeat theme shows back then. Some corps would bring back a production number or song from a previous year and maybe make a variation to it. Examples, Phantom Regiment ‘81 & 82 Spartacus, Blue Devils playing Pegasus in ‘80 & 82, “Paradox” drum feature in ‘82 & ‘83, “Karn Evil 9” drum features ‘84 & ‘85, Santa Clara Vanguard ‘88 & 89 Phantom Of The Opera. There’s many more examples but this is what I could think of real quick.
Y'all need to get Mark Thurston on.
Both shows are City of Angels. It wasn’t unheard of back then for corps to do a reworked version of a show the following season.
9:16 listen to that crowd respond! How drum corps got away from this combination of musicianship and showmanship escapes me to this day.
City of Angels is a Broadway show from 1989 about the movie biz, which is why there's a film motif on a lot of the guard equipment.
in re: Phantom's 1996 bass line, you should do Suncoast Sound 85 and 86, which was the real birth of the bassline as rock stars, and Star of Indiana 88 has one of my favorite bass "melodies" in the drum feature.
Very cool guys. Since you mention in this video that you’re not too well versed in 90’s drum corp., I suggest checking out some of these 90’s drumlines:
BD 90-94-95-96-97-99
Glassmen 98-99
Cavies 92-95-99
SCV 91-92-93-97-98-99
Star 91-93
Cadets 93-94-95-97-98
Crossmen 91-92-93-96-97-98-99
Scouts 95-96-97-98-99
They did City of Angels twice. In '91 and '92.
'96 Phantom has been one of my all time favorite shows. As much as I don't miss Premier drums, the line and the tuning, mint! And tuning overall for this line was just nasty. Rim shots galore, bass line was playing out of their minds. Love it, all of it. Also agree, all black Phantom is the best look. Sorry not sorry.
The 90s was a glorious time for DCI Drumlines. Tenor lines and Bass lines just innovating left and right. Here are a few I recommend you guys check out:
95 Blue Devils: Early season, featuring the tenor line with Sean Vega on tenors and Rog center snare- h
ttps://ruclips.net/video/M2SKA-ZRZYA/видео.html
93 SCV Drum Feature - ruclips.net/video/ByV9pwlxZ0Q/видео.html
91 Crossmen Drum Feature - ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxRpOoSZCJ8gg1xEbfO9iR3Lk_de_h3-4N
93 Velvet Knights Drum Feature - ruclips.net/video/qecM00PAdVg/видео.html
93 Blue Knights - Little Green Men Drum Feature - ruclips.net/video/PHx4bnLPxQU/видео.html
91 Cavaliers Drum Feature - ruclips.net/video/6WQvWgMdLL8/видео.html
Listen to the beginning of the 91 Scouts drum solo and then 1990 BD- specifically the timp rythm. Not an accident it sounds familiar. Scouts "borrowed" it.
Re: hornline melting your face at the end of the feature.
Yuuuup. DCI>WGI
Re: uniforms.
Yuuuup. The old uniform style just looked better. It's a uniform. The point is to make everyone look the same (and badass) and getting rid of the headpiece and revealing the faces just makes it seem like more of a bunch of individuals to me. I think the practicality of wearing something that is less hot and easier to move in was the right move, though. I marched in wool and remember finishing shows and feeling like the collar of my jacket was a furnace vent. Gotta find the middle ground here.
Re: Phantom in black.
It looked great in '96. I love white phantom even more. '08 was my favorite with the sweet copper/gold/silver capes. Let's just agree that tan phantom ('01 and '02) was the wrong direction (although I gotta say the allegro movement from shostakovich no.10 was dope AF in '02)
Re: Lee Beddis writing
'96 Phantom might be my favorite drum corps show of all time. Call me a phan boy if you want, but it's just as classic as ot gets. I get goosebumps during those isolated brass hits at the end of the feature with the battery fill-ins every time, and of course the following bass run is 😗👌 What an amazing first outing as a percussion arranger.
Yes, tan was definitely not it for PR!
I don’t mind the lack of headgear in modern DCI, although I do agree that having it brings more uniformity, and for me a better read of the visual package when you’re watching the drill. -Evan
For the algorithm. ✊
We need a 2022 best drum features for dci
1995 and 1996 were the two years IBM came in and did the recordings… and they used the wrong mics. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ok could you guys elaborate on Phantom snare line 89 and 90 they used Pearl non free floating snares and had the middle of the drum shell cut out. Then in 91 they finally used the new free floating snare but still with the center cut out of the shell. It looks to be about 2 to 3 inches of the center of the wood shell. What were they trying to do with this design and who’s idea was this?
The center-cut snare goes back to 1981 and Marty Hurley, who cut the center out of the PR snares and called it the Hi-Volume snare. ( Fred Hinger split his concert snare drums before then and called them Space Tone and Touch-Tones). When Hurley left they switched from Ludwig to Pearl, then Hurley came back in the late 80s and they split their Pearl snares.
With a plastic head I can see that being the case but with a Kevlar head it just seems you would get more of the top head sound without the guts resonating on the bottom head much. Am I correct?
Sorry...one more line that really grooved was 1989 VK. Lots of good lines from those guys but this is personal favorite. Obviously the solos in the opener but I really dug the fill around the 6:19 mark ruclips.net/video/zxvabQkRib0/видео.html
BTW- lots of good suggestions from folks on other 1990's lines. I'll humbly offer up 4 more that I enjoyed and that you (anyone) should check out. 1990 BD (holy crap!), 1990 Spirit of Atlanta, 1990 Boston Crusaders (just loved that line!) and 1992 BK ruclips.net/video/C_x6JV0wI94/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/Y_kyyqv3fVM/видео.html Spirit
ruclips.net/video/Kq-sIUl5blk/видео.html Boston Crusaders
ruclips.net/video/JKOf8RbBUkg/видео.html Blue Knights (not the cleanest but that "gun fight" drum solo was cool with some pretty darn exposed parts)
2:30 to get to the point…eliminate some of the opening chat and get to the review faster….please guys