Pressfit BB & Bearing removal without violence... almost!
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2020
- The worst thing I know is when I have to take the hammer to my bike. Normally on pressfit frames this is a necessary evil, but my move to the Token thread-fit bottom bracket was a step in the right direction.
Now with this "universal" bottom bracket tool kit I was hoping to retire my hammer for good as I decided to put in some new NTN bearings... and it almost worked...
Bottom bracket toolkit: (Full version with the cup drift)
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Park Tool BBT-30.4
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NTN 6806 LLB Ultra Low Friction Seal Bearings
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My buddy with a 3D printer made me some custom bearing drifts for the exact same problem. They ended up working great. Well worth the $2 in plastic material and a 6 pack of beer for helping me out.
One way to do it 👍
I have such a device made of plastic discs cut from plexiglass by a laser.
threaded bb warrior, but still decided to watch for the production value.
Brought this tool months ago when the video came out and have just had the opportunity to use it. Felt so good easing out the BB without a hammer in sight. Thanks for the heads up ✌🏻
Thanks for all of your videos, happy that you upload your biking content, entertaining and informative. Thanks again
I‘m an Enduro-Mountainbiker , but your videos are so satisfying and I love the production quality so I enjoy watching every single Video of you.
Continue making my favourite videos, please ,you’re the best. :)
This was very helpful so I’m glad you chose to post the video. Problems, solutions, and knowledge gained are well presented. I just purchased a 3T Exploro RaceMax online. It came “assembled” but that is a term that only loosely describes the bike being ready-to-ride. I plan to do all the maintenance, something I have relied on bike shops to do for more than 40 years. I building up my bike tools, reading, and watching RUclips videos to find out the tools I need and how to use them. There are so many options and different specifications which means I have a lot to learn and you are helping with that. Thank you!
What a spin test! 🤩
One thing you can do to have another bearing drift is to take an old bearing and sand/file/grind the outer diameter down a bit so it fits easily in to the bearing race. Keep those around for future use. I've done that kind of stuff for automotive work for years. Especially when doing differential work.
Hello, I have the Hambini bottom bracket and the low friction bearings, I have to say the Bressfit bottom bracket with the NTN low friction bearing are absolutely amazing.
I'm due to remove & fit my very first press fit bottom bracket. This tool seems like it's worth a shot. There's mixed reviews on the 'cheaper' Park Tools press fit tool (it is lacking bearing alignment capabilities, apparently) and I don't want to spend £250 on their more expensive tool. So, for £39 including delivery, I will give this one a try. It's almost half the price of the 'cheaper' Park Tools press fit tool! Awesome! Thanks! And thanks for providing a link for UK. Great service :D
Another awesome, informative video. I've just order one of these ninja BBs as my 2 month old giant crank is creaking louder than my knees. Good to know I can swap out the bearings!
Thank you for the recommendations! I wanted to mount my 30mm SRM cranks on my Cervelo with Ultegra, which created a cascade of annoyances. (Shimano insists on 24mm) I couldn’t get the part in Germany, shipped from US, received the wrong part, Zollamt…. Anyway, I bought your recommended tools. Now they are mounted and I didn’t even bring a hammer in the room! 🤘🏽
Great video. I bought the exact same BB tool off the back of it and it works a treat. Mine came in a cardboard box though, rather than the fancy-pants plastic one you've got😢 Never mind, not having to take a hammer to my bike more than makes up for it - thanks to you, my soul is intact😀
Hi Tobias, I’m have been following your channel for a while, but it only recently dawned on me that you are Swedish. I’m stuck here in Sweden because of corona and you reminded me to check out the VOID shop and I will do that this weekend. Keep up the good work
Drifts. You're right!
You can also just use the old bearing as a drift to help push in the new one in a pinch. Generally it won't go in far enough to get stuck itself.
It would have gotten stuck in my case, but as someone mentioned, sanding them down a bit could have helped with that.
Hoarding all kinds of bike tools also works though ;)
Hi Tobias, I’m following your channel for a while and it only recently dawned on me that you are Swedish. I’m stuck here in Sweden because of corona. You reminded me to check out the VOID shop and I will do that this weekend. Keep up the good work.
So informative and well done. Thanks.
Legend! Removes and destroys expensive bearings just out of curiosity and for our entertainment.
Bambini would be proud. Nice Chinese bottom bracket set. Will be good to see follow up video.
Investment on good quality tool always make life easier.
Good choice on the ntn llb
Nice video. I just bought a Hambini race BB86 GXP, but didn’t press it in yet. Although I’m excited to do so. He’s a crazy guy with a reputation to hold. If he makes and sells one bad BB the big company’s he crushes in his videos will not let the opportunity go to squeeze his bearing balls 😬
I am a sure even he admits that he makes some failures.
It’s the QC and service he offers that sets him really apart from the others.
I have that tool and yesterday hear creaking from bottom bracket. Video will help me. Thanks
I can't seem to hammer out my pressfit BB. Of course you made a fantastic video with a link to an affordable tool. We. Will. See!
it's nice of your scales to say hello
“... frame imperfections aside”
Hambini enters the chat while swearing the s out of you
Hambini actually just did a vid on OPEN up frames and its SHITE lol
@@Medarr1 It's not "shite" - it's that Hambini "shited" it. His bottom brackets may be top-notch (from what I hear), but he's no Tesla. I don't think anything he says should be ingested with religious zest.
@@LeoInterHyenaem lol dude calm down he just spoke truth about it..
Just ordered this for my home based bike repair shop
And upgraded for the professional kit and i guess that was the extra piece you were talking about
On another note amazon has this derailer alignment tool 75can$, it is the exact same specs as the park tool one, i like oark tools but man so pricey
7:10 : just use the old bearings as "washers"
Thanks you ! for your VDO. I'm looking for the BB tool kits. Can you recommend the real universal BB tool kits. without using hammer.
i just bought something similar unbranded from ebay :) looks very promising... me too i hate the whole hammering on my bike
Great video, as usual. aaand Hello Hambini Fans!
Nicely done..!
Subscribed. Good info, thanks. Where can I find NTN bearings here? I'm in Kanagawa.
I need a Genuine NTN bearing banana
Great stuff
Please disregard my comment on a one sided crank....you have the best that I have ever seen!
For coincidence i got the same tool from amazon jp. Arrived today . I have an orbea orca and it was impossible to remove the shimano bb with my hammer tool remover.
The hambini BB is top notch but be carefull! It is heavier 😏
I’ll tackle that issue when I have to ;)
just use the old bearing as the drift. work like a charm. anyway wondering if using non-shimano brand BB, the bearing depth seems to be 7mm instead of shimano bearing 6mm ?
You can ride in the rain! Here in Ky 2018 it rained like 300 days. (Felt like) 69” All bearings made it.
trust you - ordered today 3 T-Shirts to support you.
Cheers mate!
I ordered a bb removal/install kit from China also back in early May and still have not seen it - maybe the same place you ordered your first one. Agreed on never using a hammer on a bike 😬
Interesting, I ordered mine, the exact same one he is using in the video, but with no plastic case, on Ebay, and mine arrived just a week later. I was shocked at how quickly they were able to deliver it. I am based in the UK though.
I have a similar problem with the BB as I also have a screwed bb similar to your token. Can you tell me the part number of the cup removal tool you used? Was it the 1 1/8 or 1 1/4 version? Thank you.
if you find a cheap old lathe you could make all the tools you need for the price of maybe 2., Very satisfying both creatively and economically 👍👍
So how much do you want for those genuine empty NTN packages? Just asking....for a friend!
Hello ;
I come to Taiwan, I have a bicycle parts brand MORTOP. If you have used MORTOP Bottom Bracket, you can know that you don't need too many tools to assemble or disassemble.
If my bottom bracket has plastic cups is the tool shown still ok to use on a carbon frame or should I look at something else. If need something else, any recommendations
So this can extract the entire cup out of a pressfit30 bb? (Supersix)
I was excited because I have a Token bb....... then your problems started. Great info nonetheless
My LORD.........
Is NTN bearing better than Enduro bearing?
I look forward to your recommendation..... Thx....... ^^:::
Great stuff. All of what you said makes sense and was a good learning/educational experience👍
BTW if we go to the Hambini site, the NTN bearings might be genuine but the site could be fake (created by a 5 year old)! 😋
Also, how do you keep your paintwork looking good - no chips/scratches? Do you ride on the gravel or just float above it?👼
JibbaJabber if you look close in this video you’ll see some nicks here and there ;)
Cheers!
I coated my bike with helicopter tape. 😬👍
@@8383pcb and added 24.175g how very dare you ha!
does the threaded removal tool you used work for Shimano BB71 press fit cartridge?
So you switched from 2RS (fully sealed) to LLB (ultra low friction). Did you notice a big difference in drag? Can you give an update regarding water/dust entering the bearings after some rides?
Will do a "yearly recap" video at the end of the year and report back with any eventual issues.
That being said, I'm a fair weather cyclist, so these wont see a lot of nasty weather, which is why I put in the low friction ones instead of the fully sealed.
In terms of the "meaningless" spin test, I'd say the NTN preformed better out of the box, but I can't really feel any difference when riding.
@@ridesofjapan Any insights regarding the durability of your LLB bearings? Any problems so far?
bearings were good until I sold the frame with them in place last year. Beyond that can’t say anything for obvious reasons ;)
If you're struggling to seat a new bearing because the tool is bottoming out you can lightly sand the OD of the old bearing to get rid of the interference fit and then use it as a spacer to press a new bearing into a recessed hole 👍
Yup, that would probably work as well with the right tools 👍
Where did you source them in Japan? Bearing dealer, online or elsewhere?
jp.misumi-ec.com/ (That's one online place, I got them through a friend who owns a Bike store)
Hahaha, bigup Hambini! Nippon! ichiban!
Couldn't you also have used the old bearings ontop of the NTN to get the necessary spacing ?
There a pretty high risk they would get stuck in the cup as well since they would have needed to go in several mm to reach the other bearing.
Such an amazing tool! I just used it to remove a BB-RS500-PB with a broken cover to upgrade to a SM-BB92-41B. Why doesn't everyone use this rather than hammering out their pressfit BBs?
BB92 is not an upgrade, it's the road version, RS500 is for gravel, dirt, etc.
@@DR_1_1 You might be right about that. I did it for weight savings, so it was an upgrade for me!
Hi does the kit can remove the actual bb cups?
But how much does the kit weigh! :-P
now you need the new open min.d. frame...
Grease..? I thought a light smear of 603 retaining compound was generally the better option.
Would that tool work for shimano’s plastic cup bottom brackets as well?
It should yes, using the smaller 24mm collet. (I’ve have not tried it myself though.
I wish this existed for BMX
With your problem at 7:00 min you can just use the old bearing as a washer. helpt me put a good amount of times
Hi RoJ, I have a question please. I purchased a Factor that came with T47a BB30 CeramicSpeed bottom bracket. I want to run GXP crank. I found a CeramicSpeed PF30 GXP bottom bracket on sale. Can I swap out the bearings between the two bottom bracket?
Sorry I can’t answer that. I have no experience with ceramic speed.
You should probably reach out to them directly with that question. Good luck!
@@ridesofjapan Sure thing, thank you for the fast response.
here in my country, it's much cheaper to buy new bb than spending lots of money in that tool.
Hello, this is probably a stupid question but can I use this tool to press a Mavic hub bearings 6001 and 608?
You can only press bearing with internal diameters of 30 or 24/22mm with this set.
What’s the best part to save weight on my bike and also how do I find you on Zwift
For weight savings watch this ruclips.net/video/1hLqZkltnzc/видео.html
Zwift: “Tobias RoJ”
Wheels, cranks, cassette.
loose body weight
Thanks guys
Cheapest ones are Seatpost (£30 for carbon ebay one), Saddle (Same), Handle bars (£45 carbon and aero).
I personally saved 400g off mine doing this.
Класс, спасибо за видео
Just ordered one of these. I've a wheels manufacturing bb86 and a token on the other one. Anyone know if good for the wheels bb? I found the wheels and the token very similar to install. Thanks for the video
HELLOOOOO HAMBINI FANS!!!! I hate it when I do that.
😂🙉
@@ridesofjapan I don't know how you managed to make the camera work so smooth and pro looking. Mine is generally cack and amateurish. BUt I am only 5 years old.
Hambini You don’t need any fancy camera work, your followers need that raw flavor 🤬😜
Where to buy NTN bearing in Japan? any online store that you recommend?
Check www.monotaro.com
Can this tool remove the bottom bracket? I have a sram 386evo pressfit bottom bracket
Hi can you confirm if this will uninstall the whole cup of the Shimano BB86/BB92 bottom bracket and not just the bearings. Looking to get this.
I can not confirm as I haven’t tried this tool on Shimano BB’s myself. But Shimanos own tool is a similar design so my guess it would work. Check this video: ruclips.net/video/7c-Xu55ReNE/видео.html
can you fit cane creek e wings to your bike? isn't it lighter than the thm cranks?
did some searching found out it was 80g heavier
does the tool work to remove a PF BB shell as well? or i will need the hammer?
This BB removal kit removes PressFit BBs impact-free.
I think the Wheels MFG PF30 Threaded bottom brackets are intentionally designed for bearing renewal. They have how to’s on their site. Very simpler to the Token Ninja.
Yep, that should work without issues. The lower tire PF30 bb's with plastic/nylon(?) like Sram, FSA etc was the ones I was referring to.
Bahaha I literally came here to represent threaded BB gang...then I saw the intro...
Sorry for commenting on something not related to the video again, but have you acoustically treated your room? I couldn't help but keep noticing the walls behind you. Those don't look like the typical Japanese ones...considering you invested on a SoundDevice recorder, I wouldn't be surprised if you actually did treat the walls...which makes me wonder what your day job is...hmmm.
Not sound treated per say, It's just fake 2x4 wall to get a nicer background, it does help with sound a tiny bit though.
Would this allow a Praxis M30 (28mm rather than 30mm bearing) removal and installation?
I don’t think so unfortunately. The drifts are 30, 24 and 22mm
Also unsure if you could fit the 30mm collet in a 28mm bearing, I would not gamble on it.
@@ridesofjapan thanks buddy
I'm having trouble figuring out what bearings I need for a BB86 bottom bracket with a 24mm crank. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Unfortunately it’s not a universal bearing size, all depends on the brand of bottom bracket. Some bb’s like Shimano for example you are better of getting a complete new bottom bracket than trying to replace the bearings (in my experience they are almost impossible to remove without damaging the plastic cups)
@@ridesofjapan Thanks for the blazing fast response! You've more than earned a new subscriber!
@@joshkc9647 thanks mate! Happy to help 👍
if my frame bottom bracket sleeve is carbon, do i need to put in grease before the bb installation or just press in dry ?
No grease, Dry or retaining compound seems to be what pros recommend
@@ridesofjapan thanks for the prompt reply! any retaining compound you recommend ?
@@roborovski008 sorry, I use a trick with Wakos brake protector (check my open up build video) but that only available in Japan.
Being Swedish and can source them easily enough around here, but does anyone know if SKF fakes are common as well?
Sadly Yes! A big English bearing dealer was caught not so long ago. He claimed he didn't know but investigators found he was buying from a third party broker instead of the manufacturer. He was fined but still in business.
"Hambini himself"
The Open Up would almost certainly be the perfect bike with a T47 threaded BB.
Hey, nice video. Since you got the new wonderful crankset, maybe you want to get rid of the old Easton crank, (to a fellow swede who's trying to shed weight off his bike), if so, let me know. If not, keep up the good work. Peace
That beautiful sound of the “clunk”echoing through the carbon frame when the outer race pops free. 🥳To mask that sound with hammering is truly an abomination. 😡 DIY press kits are so easy to assemble, but do buy quality drifts. Sockets and washers can also do in a pinch, if it means avoiding the hammer. 🤣 But only if the bearings are being replaced.
You couldve just used the old bearings to press against the new bearings, which would be fine
Can use this for shimano pf86 removal?
Yes, al long as you make sure it include the collet for 24mm bearings
434 whats it called?
$10 per bearing?! 😲😲😲😲
BB bearings: the part of cycling where hammering is bad
The pressfitter in his misery is made victim of another pressoutfit.
Yeah you're right, fuck that fake items.
My bombtrack 🤔🤔
Your crank is WOW! Very expensive 😉
if you hate money, just go with ceramic everything 😂
Don´t you just love your threaded bottom bracket . Eyes aaahhhh nice frame eyes move to bottom bracket doh press fit , brain deletes frame from memory .
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🏆🎖️🙏👍😷👍🇧🇷
that tools to install&uninstall bearing and BB are more expensive than BB and bearing, except Ceramic Speed insanely expensive BB