We should use colloquial names for certain haplogroups as has been done for some common Irish Y haplogroups (R-M222 is called Irish Type I, R-CTS446 is Irish Type II, and R-L226 is Irish Type III). I unscientifically think of R-L1335 as the Gaelic Scottish Type, R-L1065 as Scottish Highlander Type, and R-S764 as the Gallowglass Type (due to the many Sweeneys that are R-S764). This helps when discussing genealogies and interpretations of history informed by DNA findings.
Thank you for having guests on such as Ethan who approach the subject of Scottish history and culture with academic scrutiny. I look forward to hear what Ethan has to say about non paternal event's and how often geneticists believe they occur. Through Ancestry I discovered a half sister which eventually led me to the discovery that my bio grandfather's surname was Fleming. Ironically, my father didn't know he was a Fleming. Another Fleming match I have has a different surname due to a similar circumstance that occured in the late 19th century. Excluding myself and my distant cousin our branches merge into a single progenitor who sailed to the royal Colonies from Northern Ireland over 300 years ago. In 2021-22 I took the Big Y700 through FTDNA. Excluding my Fleming matches my closest match is a Gordon, followed by Scott's, Clark's, Pollock's and Maxwell's. This has led me to researching the history of each of these last names which in turn has led to a greater understanding of the complexity of Scotlands human history.
19:10 I have a similar situation where my patrilineal line, the Jarboe line, come from France and I have a French name, but my test said I was only 3% French 🇫🇷
Here is one interesting idea for the DNA enthusiasts of Scottish clans. No Scottish man married to a Scottish woman has ever been King of Scotland. Malcolm Dunkeld III of Scotland traced his line not through Scottish clans but through the Kingdom of Dal Raida, his wife was Margaret of Wessex. Then the son was married to the daughter of William of England. And the line then desended through Norman lines even The Bruce (de Brus) family were Norman.
on the other hand can we safely say when an expected grandparent's contribution is missing and there is, say, a 25-29% surprise Croatian-Italian component, that this indicates an NPA? and that one should be searching for a previously unknown Croatian or Italian?
Really clear description of how the different DNA is defined. I did a Y DNA test in addition to my Ancestry DNA test..but unfortunately I am more confused as no matches with my surname are on the results... either no one has done the test in my line or the line has been broken somewhere
Ancestry closed down their YDNA testing, so they're not adding to their Y database - therefore, unless they open up for Y DNA testing, you're not going to get anymore matches. The major player in Y testing is FamilyTreeDNA, they have the largest Y DNA database. When I tested with with FTDNA, I was the only person of my family to test, two years on, there are now over twenty of us in a family group and we've done back a thousand years.
@@L0reburne R- Z39589 ,,came from R-=DF13 ,,, it says Ireland Scotland we live in United States and we live in other countries half low group badges metal ages .. I hope he sees this and tells me what the heck I am😂. CAME FROM ,,R- Z39589 to make. R- 1335
continued from below comment....Gordons and the Sutherlands and how they were lost. You mention that this happen to the Ross'. I am a Ross and I tested my brothers Y-Dna and he has maybe one or two Ross he is matched with but lots of matches are people with the name of Craig and Vance, mostly Craig. Are you saying that the same thing could have happen to the Ross clan? I have hit a brick wall with my 3rd great grandfather Daniel Ross.
Pedigree Collapse means that if you have a scottish surname you are (non paternity events notwithstanding) descended from EVERYONE who was alive in Scotland in 1000AD. So, we are all descended from ALL the clans. Not that Clans really mean what most people think they mean. Anyway, DNA suggests "lots of background is Scotland" is, fun, but pedigree collapse really makes geographical accuracy really low. British |sles, maybe. The flip side is family tracing, where DNA can be really useful, but family doesn't mean clan, gentically.
Another example, your father could be 50% French and give you only 5% French genes. You never know what type of genes you’re going to get from your parents because of recommendation and independent assortment!!
We should use colloquial names for certain haplogroups as has been done for some common Irish Y haplogroups (R-M222 is called Irish Type I, R-CTS446 is Irish Type II, and R-L226 is Irish Type III). I unscientifically think of R-L1335 as the Gaelic Scottish Type, R-L1065 as Scottish Highlander Type, and R-S764 as the Gallowglass Type (due to the many Sweeneys that are R-S764). This helps when discussing genealogies and interpretations of history informed by DNA findings.
Thank you for having guests on such as Ethan who approach the subject of Scottish history and culture with academic scrutiny. I look forward to hear what Ethan has to say about non paternal event's and how often geneticists believe they occur.
Through Ancestry I discovered a half sister which eventually led me to the discovery that my bio grandfather's surname was Fleming. Ironically, my father didn't know he was a Fleming. Another Fleming match I have has a different surname due to a similar circumstance that occured in the late 19th century. Excluding myself and my distant cousin our branches merge into a single progenitor who sailed to the royal Colonies from Northern Ireland over 300 years ago.
In 2021-22 I took the Big Y700 through FTDNA. Excluding my Fleming matches my closest match is a Gordon, followed by Scott's, Clark's, Pollock's and Maxwell's.
This has led me to researching the history of each of these last names which in turn has led to a greater understanding of the complexity of Scotlands human history.
19:10 I have a similar situation where my patrilineal line, the Jarboe line, come from France and I have a French name, but my test said I was only 3% French 🇫🇷
The 1st one I participated in was CRIgenetics. They offer Y and Mitochondria.
Here is one interesting idea for the DNA enthusiasts of Scottish clans. No Scottish man married to a Scottish woman has ever been King of Scotland. Malcolm Dunkeld III of Scotland traced his line not through Scottish clans but through the Kingdom of Dal Raida, his wife was Margaret of Wessex. Then the son was married to the daughter of William of England. And the line then desended through Norman lines even The Bruce (de Brus) family were Norman.
on the other hand can we safely say when an expected grandparent's contribution is missing and there is, say, a 25-29% surprise Croatian-Italian component, that this indicates an NPA? and that one should be searching for a previously unknown Croatian or Italian?
I am interested in the remarks you made about the surnames being lost...such as the Sexton's,
Really clear description of how the different DNA is defined. I did a Y DNA test in addition to my Ancestry DNA test..but unfortunately I am more confused as no matches with my surname are on the results... either no one has done the test in my line or the line has been broken somewhere
@@loairn thanks...I have the documents that go way back ...but possibly there has been an infiltraor at some stage!
Ancestry closed down their YDNA testing, so they're not adding to their Y database - therefore, unless they open up for Y DNA testing, you're not going to get anymore matches. The major player in Y testing is FamilyTreeDNA, they have the largest Y DNA database. When I tested with with FTDNA, I was the only person of my family to test, two years on, there are now over twenty of us in a family group and we've done back a thousand years.
@@WildBoreWoodWind I did a FTDNA YDNA one as well as Ancestry standard one......no matches
@@L0reburne R- Z39589 ,,came from R-=DF13 ,,, it says Ireland Scotland we live in United States and we live in other countries half low group badges metal ages .. I hope he sees this and tells me what the heck I am😂. CAME FROM ,,R- Z39589 to make. R- 1335
@@L0reburneJust did my Y DNA, you need to put your Y DNA Match at 111 marker and see name comes up the most and that is your true name
continued from below comment....Gordons and the Sutherlands and how they were lost. You mention that this happen to the Ross'. I am a Ross and I tested my brothers Y-Dna and he has maybe one or two Ross he is matched with but lots of matches are people with the name of Craig and Vance, mostly Craig. Are you saying that the same thing could have happen to the Ross clan? I have hit a brick wall with my 3rd great grandfather Daniel Ross.
The lowland clans were quite different than the stereotyped highland clans.
Pedigree Collapse means that if you have a scottish surname you are (non paternity events notwithstanding) descended from EVERYONE who was alive in Scotland in 1000AD. So, we are all descended from ALL the clans.
Not that Clans really mean what most people think they mean.
Anyway, DNA suggests "lots of background is Scotland" is, fun, but pedigree collapse really makes geographical accuracy really low. British |sles, maybe.
The flip side is family tracing, where DNA can be really useful, but family doesn't mean clan, gentically.
I spend a lot of time on the podcast exploring what "clan" really meant.
@@thescottishclans for some of the smaller clans family is much more likely to equate with clan
He could maybe learn how to pounce Kilmarnock, good job is family weren't from Dalziel or Milngavie, lol.
...or Kirkcudbright
Have patience with us who have only read many of these proper nouns, especially placenames and have never heard a local say them. We do our best.
Another example, your father could be 50% French and give you only 5% French genes. You never know what type of genes you’re going to get from your parents because of recommendation and independent assortment!!