And they're just wrong to say the shot wasn't affected. The ball was too far in front of him not allowing him options on where to put it or as much power. Bad analysis. These need to be called. Referees are so used to attackers diving, even without contact, that they don't know what to do when the attacker actually plays through like they should. Tough cycle to get out of.
I am a Sounders fan and I know what you are saying. However, it's a tough call for the ref. If he blows his whistle right away and then Montero scores, he negates the goal and then what if he misses the penalty? The ref had a to make a judgement call on whether to play on and if he had a decent chance of scoring. He can't just let him take the shot and then call the penalty if he missed.
Exactly!! And the fact that these guys agree with the call pisses me off. I hate flopping, I believe it degrades the sport both in gamesmanship and how the game is perceived by people who don't play the sport. So to see the rules and reffing promoting that behavior is really annoying.
What they're saying is if he had gone down the foul would have been completed and the attempt would have been stopped. Since he didn't go down and he got his shot off there is no need to. His attempt was not stopped and honestly wasn't really made all that much more difficult either, it wasn't an egregious shirt pull. Its basically the referee playing advantage because the striker got the shot that he wanted.
This is what pisses me off. Just because a player doesn't go down while being tackled or pulled by the jersey, doesn't mean it's not a foul. Those should be called at all times... when you dont call them, it promotes diving in the box. Its bullshit. I'm a DC fan but Seattle should've gotten a penalty. And you see the New England player diving... so stupid
Dammed if you do and Dammed if you don't as a referee. Referees are taught to wait and see especially in the penalty area of the field of play. Alternate outcome: Montero is held and the referee has a quick whistle to stop play and award a penalty kick and send off the defender. As the whistle is being blown Montero shoots and scores. No goal and play is restarted with a penalty kick with the defending team a man down. That referee would probably never see another MLS center again. The assessor up in the booth would crucify him in his written assessment of the referee's decision-making that is sent to the MLS Director of Referees.
@@DJ-xs7ln He could easily have held off on the whistle until after the shot was blocked. Some refs will wait two or three seconds (occasionally more) after an infringement to see if an advantage plays out. Either way, VAR should have gotten involved on this one.
@@offthehookproductions4481 There is another phrase in refereeing, Giving him two bites of the same apple. Montero shoots and the goalkeeper makes the save which is what happened. Now the referee blows his whistle and awards the penalty kick. That would be the second bite of the apple. Did that once and it was not pretty. In addition, referees are taught to give an advantage in the penalty area without verbal or physical gestures as it is done outside the penalty area. The referee was giving Montero the advantage he had gained by playing through the hold.
I think the ref made the right call, montero got his advantage by playing through it and getting his shot on goal. It’s on him for not going down or scoring
7:24 when Charlie Davies says that "had montero gone down it would have been a penalty and a red" is exactly what is wrong with PRO refs. They are blatantly encouraging and rewards dives and flops. If it is a foul, its a foul, whether or not the player goes down. Pulling the jersey is a foul anywhere on the field, and that should have been no different.
I think the ref made the right call, montero got his advantage by playing through it and getting his shot on goal. It’s on him for not going down or scoring
@@andrewestham8442 the issue with that is Montero was pulled back, allowing the ball to roll further away causing Montero to take longer with the shot. That allowed the 2nd defender and the goalkeeper get better positioning. The rule book states that pulling a jersey is a foul, whether or not the player goes down. This is just encouraging players to flop unnecessarily, which is the worst park of the game. I agree that Montero should still score from there, but it would have been an even better chance had he not been pulled back. Still, the Sounders choked the game regardless of no calls on multiple occasions, two other times that were not discussed here.
Charlie Davies at 3:40 "If you make contact with the neck/head area you are going to be sent off". Sounds great until you recognize the Tomas Romero punched Khiry Shelton in the neck, stomped on him, and then kneed him in the forehead and there was only a yellow card and you aren't even going to cover this? Instant Replay is just as consistently inconsistent as PRO Referees are
I disagree with the "they got this right" on the Montero pull. You can clearly see he takes the shot leaning backward from the pull. To say "well he got his shot off" has nothing to due with the fact that the rules were broken and a foul was committed. He could very well have scored there that close and certainly changed the outcome of that game.
That same logic applies to mabiala in the Timbers game. He was being choked but still got a halfway ok shot off and VAR didn’t even look twice. Cost both Portland and Seattle 3 points last night
He ends up toe-poking the ball because he didn't continue his forward momentum. With slightly better balance he might have been able to lift it, or at least place it more accurately. And even if it didn't affect his shot, its a clear foul! There was no room in this one for the "wasn't clear and obvious" excuse.
They are completely correct, it’s a contact sport. If he had gone down then it could’ve been called however he felt good enough to get his shot off. Sure it’s a toe poke but the touch before contact was slightly heavy and the keeper came out, he would’ve toe poked it regardless with the other center half closing in
I think the ref made the right call, montero got his advantage by playing through it and getting his shot on goal. It’s on him for not going down or scoring
Should have counted the goal and then given a red. Shelton is strong and doesn't dive. That was a massive hit outside the box with no intention to play the ball.
How on earth can Charlie (a striker) say that tug on the jersey “didn’t impact” the shot? It 1000% impacted the shot! Montero is through on goal and that tug 1. Puts him slightly off balance and 2. Slows him down allowing the keeper to close the angle. That should be a penalty and a red regardless of if he goes down. Why are we all of a sudden encouraging players to dive. Referees need to take charge and call fouls like these whether the player goes down or not. What a ludicrously bad take from Charlie
I think the ref made the right call, montero got his advantage by playing through it and getting his shot on goal. It’s on him for not going down or scoring
I'm actually proud of you guys for showing the behind the scenes audio of Andrew just stubbornly ignoring what Charlie is talking about. Something like this is the downfall of doing these remotely, I can just imagine the fingerprints all over the screen as they watched it together in person.
Ha. Behind the scenes or fully scripted? It was way too long and annoying. They made the segment about themselves instead of the game. I get that they'll likely trying make a point about how it's easy to miss things and be bias, but they spent TWO AND A HALF MINTUES talking about two stupid players acting macho by trying to act verbally macho themselves.
For the Blanco slap, we have seen before with Gregus that you don’t need contact to get a red for violent conduct, the intent and swing alone is sufficient in these kinds of instances
As a grade 8 ref myself, I appreciate the reminder that this is hard. It's hard at the high school level. The pressure at the pro level must be immense.
Wanyama puts hand on guys neck = red, other guy pushes BOTH hands into Wanyamas neck the second time = yellow card? sack this kid man he's clueless, the other guy knows his stuff.
With VAR it isn’t an impossible hard job. They just need to stop being selective on what they call or don’t call reverse or want it to stand . Consistency that’s all
Is it just me or do they hate the sounders? "If he had gone down it would have been a penalty and a red card" but since he did the right thing and played until the whistle it suddenly became, "the right call." Falling to the ground isn't what makes something a foul and, personally, I'd enjoy watching more if players felt the freedom to fight through challenges.
I think the ref made the right call, montero got his advantage by playing through it and getting his shot on goal. It’s on him for not going down or scoring
I'm sorry, but that first one was in no way a pen. Contact does NOT equal a foul. He BARELY touched him and the man was already going down. Should have been a yellow the other way.
Blanco clearly puts his hands on his opponents face. Brad Evans a few years ago just nodded at a Whitecaps defender, didn't make contact at all but was given a straight red. Blanco's offense was much more egregious than that and deserved the red. Chara also deserved a red for the scissors tackle from behind for endangering the safety of his opponent. A couple of years ago they made that a point of emphasis with MLS' referees in order to "rid the game of such violent behavior" looks like they were *totally* successful. Charlie Davies, one of the best US Olympic Diving team...always got a 10 from the Russian Judges on his dives in the box. Just so that I understand you Charlie, the element that drive most casual sports fans away from soccer (i.e. Diving) you want more of? Wow, I guess you really believe in the old joke that Soccer is the sport of the future in the US, and always will be....just amazing.
Um... It definitely did effect Montero's ability to get the shot off. If he is not tugged back, he gets a full kick at the ball, rather than just a toe poke. Oh and Weibe... get rid of the love for Flopper Martinez and PrincessU. Josef gets away with too much stuff, because he is an MLS darling. It was good to see his red card. About F***ING time!
As a referee of 15+ years and a lifelong soccer fan, I gotta disagree with your evaluation of the Seattle no-call. Just because he played thru the foul doesn't mean there is no foul! Attitudes like that cause players to fall down at the slightest touch to "draw the foul" or "earn the call", thus ruining The Beautiful Game.
I think the ref made the right call, montero got his advantage by playing through it and getting his shot on goal. It’s on him for not going down or scoring
@@andrewestham8442 there are 2 possibilities; foul or no foul. If we accept that this was a foul (as I do) then the referee either must now the blow the whistle and award the foul or signal for advantage. The referee didn't do either, so he's essentially saying "no foul". That's his decision, he's the referee. However, the reason why I disagree with the commentary in this video is they claim he should have fallen to get the call. My point is a foul is a foul; Montero playing thru it shouldn't be a factor.
@@socscholar14 it definitely should be a factor. It can’t be “denial of an obvious goal scoring opportunity” if he DIDNT DENY HIM, he tried to but he got by. No foul play on
Why aren’t you going over Jungworth grabbing Mabiala’s neck as he was about to shoot in the box? PRO is a joke, and cost the timbers 3 points last night.
@@MtHoodMikeZ I don't recall the play. Provide a link and I'll discuss. As always, it was looked at by VAR. They look at all plays. If the VAR officials didn't tell the CR there was something to go to the monitor for, then they didn't think anything was clear and obvious enough to potential change the call.
I thought so too at first glance but then I looked at the lines of the goalie box. The camera angles are truly odd as the end line and the 18 yard line follow different angles. It does look offside but I don't know how you can tell with that kind of skewed angle. MLS needs better technology if they are going to equally enforce offside in the league.
It is, but the positioning of Wayama's right hand forces his shove higher on that side. Hard from that angle to see what's going on, but it's weird the left is so much higher than the right. That said, even if meant to go for the chin/face, I don't blame him. Wayama was definitely trying to coral him in the goal and not letting Martinez out from the goal. I probably would have decked Wayama after the choke...
Can I just say somebody has the background music up way too loud on this video. Do you even need the music to make the video exciting? Get off my lawn...
regarding josef? He wasn't intending to contact? He squares up with wanayama pushing his head against him. Wanayama reacts (poorly). Easy decision for two red cards and it isn't soft
Martinez dove, just like he did to reach his MLS record goal total. It’s what he does. Meanwhile, you review the touch from Blanco, but don’t review a JERSEY GRAB IN THE BOX agains SJ? Jeez, you guys are just PRO propaganda. And, even as a Timber’s fan, what the heck are you talking about with the no-call on the Montero grab? With the amount of delay that the jersey grab caused, Freddie could have danced around all 4 defenders and the keeper in that box. How biased do you have to be to agree with that no-call?
He goes down too easy He thinks he has style but looks like a clown He acts like he's god's gift to the game but he plays for a 2nd class league. If he really was a competitor he'd be doing everything he could to not look like a clown and get himself in a top league.
@@hunterwilson3535 Being better and having great reasons to hate him aren't the same thing. I can't respect a player who struts around in a lower division league and acts like he's the best in the world. If he's that good, then go prove himself. Maybe I should go play against the U12 kids and pretend I'm the best around.
That El Tri dig was perfect.
Cry babies
@@THRIQUILLED We won both games this year. What would we be crying about? It's funny.
@@bairdbiz
Lying to yourself. And you know it.
@@THRIQUILLED I don't even understand what you are trying to say.
@@bairdbiz Didn’t we beat you in March this year.
"If Montero had gone down..." This is why players dive. Until refs give penalties for fouls without players needing to flop, players will flop.
Yep, that way of calling fouls and penalties is what leads to players exaggerating any little bit of contact and flapping their way to the ground.
And they're just wrong to say the shot wasn't affected. The ball was too far in front of him not allowing him options on where to put it or as much power. Bad analysis. These need to be called. Referees are so used to attackers diving, even without contact, that they don't know what to do when the attacker actually plays through like they should. Tough cycle to get out of.
Like seriously how are we encouraging flopping
Truth. Pretty lame. Been this way for so long. Call the foul.
I am a Sounders fan and I know what you are saying. However, it's a tough call for the ref. If he blows his whistle right away and then Montero scores, he negates the goal and then what if he misses the penalty? The ref had a to make a judgement call on whether to play on and if he had a decent chance of scoring. He can't just let him take the shot and then call the penalty if he missed.
Man that missed pk for Seattle was super annoying. You can’t ignore a penalty just because he didn’t want to give up smh……
Same with the Timbers game
Exactly!! And the fact that these guys agree with the call pisses me off. I hate flopping, I believe it degrades the sport both in gamesmanship and how the game is perceived by people who don't play the sport. So to see the rules and reffing promoting that behavior is really annoying.
Que lástima que nos que tan difícil el ingles
Se defendió josef
What they're saying is if he had gone down the foul would have been completed and the attempt would have been stopped. Since he didn't go down and he got his shot off there is no need to. His attempt was not stopped and honestly wasn't really made all that much more difficult either, it wasn't an egregious shirt pull. Its basically the referee playing advantage because the striker got the shot that he wanted.
This is what pisses me off. Just because a player doesn't go down while being tackled or pulled by the jersey, doesn't mean it's not a foul. Those should be called at all times... when you dont call them, it promotes diving in the box. Its bullshit. I'm a DC fan but Seattle should've gotten a penalty. And you see the New England player diving... so stupid
Dammed if you do and Dammed if you don't as a referee. Referees are taught to wait and see especially in the penalty area of the field of play. Alternate outcome: Montero is held and the referee has a quick whistle to stop play and award a penalty kick and send off the defender. As the whistle is being blown Montero shoots and scores. No goal and play is restarted with a penalty kick with the defending team a man down. That referee would probably never see another MLS center again. The assessor up in the booth would crucify him in his written assessment of the referee's decision-making that is sent to the MLS Director of Referees.
@@DJ-xs7ln He could easily have held off on the whistle until after the shot was blocked. Some refs will wait two or three seconds (occasionally more) after an infringement to see if an advantage plays out. Either way, VAR should have gotten involved on this one.
@@offthehookproductions4481 There is another phrase in refereeing, Giving him two bites of the same apple. Montero shoots and the goalkeeper makes the save which is what happened. Now the referee blows his whistle and awards the penalty kick. That would be the second bite of the apple. Did that once and it was not pretty.
In addition, referees are taught to give an advantage in the penalty area without verbal or physical gestures as it is done outside the penalty area. The referee was giving Montero the advantage he had gained by playing through the hold.
I think the ref made the right call, montero got his advantage by playing through it and getting his shot on goal. It’s on him for not going down or scoring
His shot's accuracy and power were clearly affected by being half a step behind the ball
7:24 when Charlie Davies says that "had montero gone down it would have been a penalty and a red" is exactly what is wrong with PRO refs. They are blatantly encouraging and rewards dives and flops. If it is a foul, its a foul, whether or not the player goes down. Pulling the jersey is a foul anywhere on the field, and that should have been no different.
I think the ref made the right call, montero got his advantage by playing through it and getting his shot on goal. It’s on him for not going down or scoring
@@andrewestham8442 the issue with that is Montero was pulled back, allowing the ball to roll further away causing Montero to take longer with the shot. That allowed the 2nd defender and the goalkeeper get better positioning. The rule book states that pulling a jersey is a foul, whether or not the player goes down. This is just encouraging players to flop unnecessarily, which is the worst park of the game. I agree that Montero should still score from there, but it would have been an even better chance had he not been pulled back. Still, the Sounders choked the game regardless of no calls on multiple occasions, two other times that were not discussed here.
Charlie Davies at 3:40 "If you make contact with the neck/head area you are going to be sent off". Sounds great until you recognize the Tomas Romero punched Khiry Shelton in the neck, stomped on him, and then kneed him in the forehead and there was only a yellow card and you aren't even going to cover this? Instant Replay is just as consistently inconsistent as PRO Referees are
I disagree with the "they got this right" on the Montero pull. You can clearly see he takes the shot leaning backward from the pull. To say "well he got his shot off" has nothing to due with the fact that the rules were broken and a foul was committed. He could very well have scored there that close and certainly changed the outcome of that game.
That same logic applies to mabiala in the Timbers game. He was being choked but still got a halfway ok shot off and VAR didn’t even look twice. Cost both Portland and Seattle 3 points last night
He ends up toe-poking the ball because he didn't continue his forward momentum. With slightly better balance he might have been able to lift it, or at least place it more accurately. And even if it didn't affect his shot, its a clear foul! There was no room in this one for the "wasn't clear and obvious" excuse.
They are completely correct, it’s a contact sport. If he had gone down then it could’ve been called however he felt good enough to get his shot off. Sure it’s a toe poke but the touch before contact was slightly heavy and the keeper came out, he would’ve toe poked it regardless with the other center half closing in
@@cadenturner1631 that's a good opinion. I don't agree, but in either case it was a no call penalty.
I think the ref made the right call, montero got his advantage by playing through it and getting his shot on goal. It’s on him for not going down or scoring
And the Olympic Gold in mental gymnastics goes to: Charlie Davies 🥇
Lessons learned:
1. You should flop
2. You should grab
Offsides is offsides, there is no "negligible distance" I don't know what he's talking about.
This show would be better if it sounded more like the “behind the scenes” section more often.
1:27 lmao the GK wanted them two to fight out like in hockey 🤣
"unless you play for el tri you get sent off" lol - chokers in many ways...
Excellent work on the analysis of the plays. Good content, good show. Congratulations!
12 games on Wednesday, 12 minute video, a quarter of which two adult men argue about Martinez.
Wow not gonna talk about the LAFC goalie basically KOing Kirie Shelton
Should have counted the goal and then given a red. Shelton is strong and doesn't dive. That was a massive hit outside the box with no intention to play the ball.
@@benwblack yeah 100%agree did you see the big welch on his forehead after it happened
@@johnkirmer7194 And Shelton played the full 90 after that.
This is the best instant replay ever. The behind the scenes is AMAZING.
How on earth can Charlie (a striker) say that tug on the jersey “didn’t impact” the shot? It 1000% impacted the shot! Montero is through on goal and that tug 1. Puts him slightly off balance and 2. Slows him down allowing the keeper to close the angle. That should be a penalty and a red regardless of if he goes down. Why are we all of a sudden encouraging players to dive. Referees need to take charge and call fouls like these whether the player goes down or not. What a ludicrously bad take from Charlie
He got the shot off. It’s not a penalty. They could’ve shoved him off to the side, but if he shoots it, it’s not a PK
I think the ref made the right call, montero got his advantage by playing through it and getting his shot on goal. It’s on him for not going down or scoring
I'm actually proud of you guys for showing the behind the scenes audio of Andrew just stubbornly ignoring what Charlie is talking about. Something like this is the downfall of doing these remotely, I can just imagine the fingerprints all over the screen as they watched it together in person.
Ha. Behind the scenes or fully scripted? It was way too long and annoying. They made the segment about themselves instead of the game. I get that they'll likely trying make a point about how it's easy to miss things and be bias, but they spent TWO AND A HALF MINTUES talking about two stupid players acting macho by trying to act verbally macho themselves.
I am with ya guys except the one where the defender slaps the San Jose forward twice in the face and Weebie says he needs more info. Huh?
El Tri living rent free in their head 🇲🇽
Chokers...
Usa beating Mexico twice living rent free in yours
I don’t think I’ve ever heard those two be so close of going at it before
For the Blanco slap, we have seen before with Gregus that you don’t need contact to get a red for violent conduct, the intent and swing alone is sufficient in these kinds of instances
Charlie + Andrew = longer video
Longer video = happy
You pronounced Diego Chará's name correctly! I'm flabbergasted!
As a grade 8 ref myself, I appreciate the reminder that this is hard. It's hard at the high school level. The pressure at the pro level must be immense.
The elbow to the face was a bit over the top, for instance, he was clearly holding the guys arm back, what was he supposed to do?
"Unless you play for El Tri" 😂😂 but fr how they always get away with it
Because international refs aren’t snowflakes like the MLS ones
@@btmz1753 or because Mexico always pays off the refs to never call anything
@@andrewestham8442 lmao you can’t seriously believe that 😂😂
Perfect dive by Martinez.
as always.
*shows Montero impeded*
Davis: He got his shot off unimpeded
lol....wut?
Wanyama puts hand on guys neck = red, other guy pushes BOTH hands into Wanyamas neck the second time = yellow card? sack this kid man he's clueless, the other guy knows his stuff.
Yes, let him get backed into the goal and have his throat grabbed and him not do anything. Thats a perfectly reasonable reaction of any human being 🙄
Charlie’s thinking on why Monterey didn’t deserve a PK is why players dive. Nothing should be; “if he had gone down it’s a PK”
With VAR it isn’t an impossible hard job. They just need to stop being selective on what they call or don’t call reverse or want it to stand . Consistency that’s all
Martinez and Wanyama i have both on Fifa in my squad 😂
Clear and obvious with the Orlando goal but not clear and obvious with the Galaxy goal...
Is it just me or do they hate the sounders? "If he had gone down it would have been a penalty and a red card" but since he did the right thing and played until the whistle it suddenly became, "the right call." Falling to the ground isn't what makes something a foul and, personally, I'd enjoy watching more if players felt the freedom to fight through challenges.
Yes. It's basically in the open and super grating.
I think the ref made the right call, montero got his advantage by playing through it and getting his shot on goal. It’s on him for not going down or scoring
Wanyama would eat him
Victor wayama is a legend
I'm sorry, but that first one was in no way a pen. Contact does NOT equal a foul. He BARELY touched him and the man was already going down. Should have been a yellow the other way.
Blanco clearly puts his hands on his opponents face. Brad Evans a few years ago just nodded at a Whitecaps defender, didn't make contact at all but was given a straight red. Blanco's offense was much more egregious than that and deserved the red. Chara also deserved a red for the scissors tackle from behind for endangering the safety of his opponent. A couple of years ago they made that a point of emphasis with MLS' referees in order to "rid the game of such violent behavior" looks like they were *totally* successful.
Charlie Davies, one of the best US Olympic Diving team...always got a 10 from the Russian Judges on his dives in the box. Just so that I understand you Charlie, the element that drive most casual sports fans away from soccer (i.e. Diving) you want more of? Wow, I guess you really believe in the old joke that Soccer is the sport of the future in the US, and always will be....just amazing.
Um... It definitely did effect Montero's ability to get the shot off. If he is not tugged back, he gets a full kick at the ball, rather than just a toe poke.
Oh and Weibe... get rid of the love for Flopper Martinez and PrincessU. Josef gets away with too much stuff, because he is an MLS darling. It was good to see his red card. About F***ING time!
Nashville at New England match, the referee made a lot of bad calls for both teams. Luckly New England didn't lose that match.
Really? I thought the ref did a very good job overall
As a referee of 15+ years and a lifelong soccer fan, I gotta disagree with your evaluation of the Seattle no-call. Just because he played thru the foul doesn't mean there is no foul! Attitudes like that cause players to fall down at the slightest touch to "draw the foul" or "earn the call", thus ruining The Beautiful Game.
I think the ref made the right call, montero got his advantage by playing through it and getting his shot on goal. It’s on him for not going down or scoring
@@andrewestham8442 there are 2 possibilities; foul or no foul.
If we accept that this was a foul (as I do) then the referee either must now the blow the whistle and award the foul or signal for advantage. The referee didn't do either, so he's essentially saying "no foul". That's his decision, he's the referee. However, the reason why I disagree with the commentary in this video is they claim he should have fallen to get the call. My point is a foul is a foul; Montero playing thru it shouldn't be a factor.
@@socscholar14 it definitely should be a factor. It can’t be “denial of an obvious goal scoring opportunity” if he DIDNT DENY HIM, he tried to but he got by. No foul play on
Not going to cover the LAFC red card miss on Romero for dangerous takedown of Khiry Shelton in the SKCvLAFC game??
Why aren’t you going over Jungworth grabbing Mabiala’s neck as he was about to shoot in the box? PRO is a joke, and cost the timbers 3 points last night.
Yeah, that one play was the reason. I get you're from Portland though so you can't actually see the real world.
@@choduffield How about addressing the play? It at least deserved a look by VAR, and was as egregious as any of the others shown here.
@@MtHoodMikeZ I don't recall the play. Provide a link and I'll discuss.
As always, it was looked at by VAR. They look at all plays. If the VAR officials didn't tell the CR there was something to go to the monitor for, then they didn't think anything was clear and obvious enough to potential change the call.
@@choduffield right, that’s why I’m complaining. The Var Refs didn’t deem it worthy even though he was fucking choked.
@@nickjacobsen9567 Hard to comment with no link. Jungwirth isn't a Quake anymore though so I say give him a retro suspension!
Dude...what is that guy smoking!? The 2nd one was an obvious red for both. Do these dudes even watch soccer or understand the rules!?
MLS was very naughty yesterday ....5 red cards 😱
8:30 Not a galaxy or an rsl fan. He definitely looks offside to me
I thought so too at first glance but then I looked at the lines of the goalie box. The camera angles are truly odd as the end line and the 18 yard line follow different angles. It does look offside but I don't know how you can tell with that kind of skewed angle. MLS needs better technology if they are going to equally enforce offside in the league.
Included a chock on the Montreal game but not when Portland's subbed keeper did the same? I can't recall the timestamp (maybe 30ish?).
??? I don’t remember that
No red bulls?
Josef Martínez ‘s Left Hand is on the chin of Wanyaks
It is, but the positioning of Wayama's right hand forces his shove higher on that side. Hard from that angle to see what's going on, but it's weird the left is so much higher than the right. That said, even if meant to go for the chin/face, I don't blame him. Wayama was definitely trying to coral him in the goal and not letting Martinez out from the goal. I probably would have decked Wayama after the choke...
Can I just say somebody has the background music up way too loud on this video. Do you even need the music to make the video exciting? Get off my lawn...
1:37
Not talking about the clearly not a penalty and not looked at on the monitor penalty call for Toronto in Philly is upsetting
SO YOU IGNORE JUNGWORTH THROTTLING MABIALA IN THE BOX AND CRASHING IN ON MABIALA'S BACK?!! CHICKENS, YOU DON'T WANT TO OFFEND THE LEAGUE.
But did y'all see the 70s porn stache at 9:37 ?
this davies guy makes no sense lol lmao one clip he says one thing the next clip he's not impeded lolol
regarding josef? He wasn't intending to contact? He squares up with wanayama pushing his head against him. Wanayama reacts (poorly). Easy decision for two red cards and it isn't soft
1:36 😂😂
damn davies next clip crying to his mom again lmao charlie sucks as a pundit is this the best MLS has? This is why we don't care because of davies
Martinez dove, just like he did to reach his MLS record goal total. It’s what he does.
Meanwhile, you review the touch from Blanco, but don’t review a JERSEY GRAB IN THE BOX agains SJ? Jeez, you guys are just PRO propaganda.
And, even as a Timber’s fan, what the heck are you talking about with the no-call on the Montero grab? With the amount of delay that the jersey grab caused, Freddie could have danced around all 4 defenders and the keeper in that box. How biased do you have to be to agree with that no-call?
Portland’s a joke
Fitting the Timbers reside there then.
Weibe? No Martinez Red? He clearly hit him in the face. Time for some new blood at MLS.
That’s such a soft penalty to Martinez, only looking for the foul.
Josef did a Jamie vardy trademark leg dragging dive, initiated the contact while slowing down. classic
No way, Josef wants that goal. He rarely takes a dive. He slowed down because he was getting his feet set for his shot.
He got shoved in the back. Clear penalty. Easy call.
@@717bulldog barely a shove more a hand to the back.
@@bairdbiz Agreed. Been watching him a long time, diving isn't his usual MO.
@@daniellizotte6110 Check again. His arm clearly extends as a shove. It's enough for a penalty.
f get it together and play legally
I don't know why I dislike joseff martinez so much
He goes down too easy
He thinks he has style but looks like a clown
He acts like he's god's gift to the game but he plays for a 2nd class league. If he really was a competitor he'd be doing everything he could to not look like a clown and get himself in a top league.
lol haters gonna hate
@@MCGAMING911 Soccer much?
@@choduffield He better than your favorite player in MLS fosho
@@hunterwilson3535 Being better and having great reasons to hate him aren't the same thing. I can't respect a player who struts around in a lower division league and acts like he's the best in the world. If he's that good, then go prove himself. Maybe I should go play against the U12 kids and pretend I'm the best around.