Man, all this talk about the Turbo heritage and early Zoom X takes me back to about the time I discovered this channel and was really just getting into running.
“Ideal Nike lineup” - lists all of Nikes shoes haha. Might as well add Air Force ones for post run beers at the pub with your run club. ❤️ your work Kofuzi!
I really love the Pegasus Plus. I wanted a shoe that felt like the Rebel v4 in uptempo runs and feels good in slower paces. I got that in this shoe. In my opinion, Nike nailed this one. 😊
@@alex-dk2rj I have not tried it but I think it can handle interval workouts. My first run in my pair was a hard tempo session and it performed well beyond my expectations.
@@alex-dk2rj yes technically but for me threshold runs are runs that I go all out fast, the fastest pace that I can dish out. For tempo runs I go on a pace that is fast and hard but not yet all out. I hope this makes sense.
From what I've seen the renaming to Pegasus Plus is part of a bigger push to 'simplify' the line up of shoes. Pegasus standard, Plus and Premium (2025). Have also seen suggestions that it extends to other models Vomero standard, Plus (Invincible, potential rename), Premium (?). So different categories in the line up would also offer a standard, plus and premium option. I'm not certain but I've heard/ seen multiple outlets/ industry people suggest this is direction Nike are going
Not being sarcastic, i really love it when Ko discusses shoe (e.g., the Boston 12, this peg turbo 3) and foam naming conventions & consistency (or the lack of). Am I buying a peg turbo, am I buying a ZoomX shoe? They must stand for something.
Great video and review. I really like the Vomero 17s and feel like they are a better daily trainer option than Peg 41s. Curious to try these out and see how they compare.
Couldn't agree more on the comparison with the Mach 6! Exactly how I felt when I tried the shoes together. I do think the Nikes win in the drip department though.
I’m not a huge fan of the midsole design in this shoe. Something about it look unfinished like it’s a bad sole swap or something. It does look better on the lighter color uppers of this shoe though
I loved my original turbos and always wondered why they discontinued them. I'm glad you mentioned about the difference in the zoom X foam though, I had 4 pairs of the flyknit 4% and loved them. I even liked the invincible 2 as a recovery shoe, but the invincible 3... I still just can't get used to them on longer runs... so much so that I switched over hoka more recently but still crave that original zoom x feeling
My first ever pair of speed workout shoes was the Turbo 2. Bought them after watching Kofuzi’s review back then. Don’t know why, but I just love it when Kofuzi reviews Nike shoes. Maybe it’s because it feels like a catch up with an old friend.
Hey kofuzi I am deciding on buying this or the adizero Sl 2 for track and faster training while still can handle long run. I feel like the sl is a better option and price than peg plus, what do you think?
Nice, I have the full option(s) available, however I always rotated in the ZoomFly 4 for tempo run's. Would the Pegasus Turbo / Plus be a good alternative for the Zoom Fly 4 or Tempo Next %?
A very specific version of theTurbo is one of my all-time favorite shoes. But I won't tell you what it is for fear of further increasing demand for it on ebay. Yes, you did review it.
Love the look of it... There are just better alternatives now compared to when the Peg Turbo and Peg Turbo 2 were on the market (I own a pair of Peg Turbo 2).
I love that you put together an all Nike lineup. I'm curious where the structure 25 would fall for you? Thank you for the fantastic information and entertaining videos!
It's a stability shoe but I‘ve seen videos with Cole Hooker using them during hill repeats or even mile repeats at threshold. So I'm wondering if athletes wear them in front of camera just to promote the shoe and they never use it again or if really it is a great workout/daily shoe
Cooper Teare discusses why he and Cole use the structure in the sova sweat elite video. He basically says that they train in a heavy basic shoe so they build strength and feel extra quick in race shoes on race day.
I feel like Nike finally has a good rotation on deck with the new peg plus. I have been using the Plus for those weekly type workouts and uptempo runs, the invincible for all my easy and long runs, and the vaporfly and alphafly for key workouts and races. I also have the vomero but I feel like it's a worse shoe than the Invincible in almost every way, so I rarely use it. I do think the Mach 6 would make for a better option if you only have a one or two shoe rotation (a do it all and maybe a racer). But if you have a cushioned cruiser and a speedy tempo trainer, you can usually bypass the versatile trainer entirely and have more dedicated options. The Plus should definitely be $160 tho.
Looking at the Nike line up and it becomes obvious how limited their running options are compared to most running shoe companies in 2024. Everything outside of their racing shoes seems kind of dated almost. Really cool shoes from 5-10 years ago that haven't changed meaningfully since.
These shoes completely kill my knees, used the Pegasus turbo years ago and those saved my knees when I was running with Asics Nimbus 18 (Almost gave up running due to those shoes), back in 2018 I've started using Nike and got back the pleasure of running with the Pegasus Turbo, but this Pegasus Plus brought back that knee plain, maybe due to the 10 mm drop, I'm selling mines after 50 km...
These didn't work out for me, too narrow in the forefoot and gave me heel pain, switched to Hyperion 2's and much prefer. If anyone wants an EU 45.5 pair let me know 😉
Great review Mike. Question, the racing ‘stripe’ rubber that’s on the outsole, do you see that being in way of preventing rubber from going somewhere when the foot strikes? Waffles on both sides seem okay but, stripe in middle not sure
it's a great time to be a runner. there's a specific running for just about every runner and just about every use case. I generally don't think about what running shoe company is best, as it becomes cumbersomely vague and tends to incorporate non-running-shoe-performance criteria like marketing prowess, signature athlete signings, apparel quality, and the most subjective and opaque criteria of them all: value.
Thanks for trh reply. Yes looking running on treadmill and cardio workouts. What do you recommend ? Turbo, peg 41 or V17 and really thanks once again. Keep ypnthe good work and content is apricitiable @@kofuzi
Idk if you’d agree, but I think the peg 39 was the last decent peg that came out. I never tried on the pegs in the 30s but based on looks, they look fcukin amazing when it comes to performance and comfort. I tried on the 41 and the 40 at the Nike store, both were just bad. They don’t seem like real running shoes. On the 40 I hated how it was too much padding on the upper, it was just retrded. I tried on the peg plus this past Sunday and I like how they feel. Something I can pick up the pace with. I’ll be ordering them♥️
In retrospect these days, I generally demarcate the 36 as the last really good standard Peg (it was the last to use cushlon, which had its limitations but was good)
But in general, I trust nike more when it comes to running rather than their competitors. I didn’t like the trainers from asics and NB. Guess the pegs will be their least good shoe in the future, and premium pegs will be better for performance and training. I’d prefer Nike just make the pegs the great shoe and not have other lines within the pegs
Not understood segmentation of nike- whats diff of this model vs vomero, whi h also has zoom x and 10 mm drop? Or with invicible, which has just bit more stack....
the shoes are pretty different. I would suggest going to a running store to try them on. this will give you an opportunity to understand how meaningful those seemingly minute variations of paper specs can have when running.
Overpriced like many other shoes but if I were to run in one Nike shoe for the rest of my life, it would be this one and for speed/race Vaporfly 3. I think they would make a great two shoe rotation.
I like the Pegasus 35 zoom x an all time fav of mine. I felt it could do it all all types of runs both road and trail and still good trainer for the gym/weights and treadmill. Maybe not for race day though I think could manage up to a 10k race. Any thoughts Mike Ko between Pegasus 35 zoom x and this shoe as a replacement?
It’s an interesting hypothetical, as I’m not sure a lot of people can find new, 6 year old shoes. But I think you’d find a Peg 35 Turbo to feel like it doesn’t have enough foam for 2024 standards.
@@kofuzi Thank you Mike! I agree though Stock X is a over inflated and Amazon hikes it to $130. As a heavier runner the versatility, durability, and comfort for such a low stacked shoe but your right probably not enough foam. :)
Many better options out there at much lower price, as well as much better durability. I loved the Turbo 2 back in 2019, but shoes like the SL2 today are better. The Plus does look nice for casual wear though 😂
Can confirm Nike shoe rotation for 5k-Half Marathon | Pegasus, Invincible, Streakfly, Vaprofly - is spot on. For marathon training I think Alphafly is probably a better option than Vaporfly and the Vaporfly is probably better than streakfly for workouts. I’ve heard so many good things about the Vomero I really gotta get a pair and test them out myself!
Vomero 17s are great, never talked about in the Nike lineup, yet does everything the Pegasus does but better. Can get them cheap at the Nike Outlets too.
@@its1027 That’s what everyone keeps telling me, surprised they aren’t talked about more, but maybe that’s a good thing if you can get them for cheap 👀 Definitely have to get a pair soon!
I feel like this isn't a real question but someone that wants to argue about shoe shapes. but if I've misinterpreted tone, I apologize. if you for real want to know about toe rubbing, let me know
Yo, what’s going on!! I don’t even want to see shoes right now 🙈🙈. I don’t really need more shoes. But you know what. Maybe i do 🤣😂. Pegs always brings good memories 👍🏼
Why turbo is on the outsole- Nike switched strategy midway. they have added this "plus" classification to their basic running shoes. This was going to be a turbo, but then they switched to plus, so it was a rolling change. The molds were already cast, would cost a fortune across the size runs to do over, but upper changes could almost be done on the fly. Same thing happened to adidas boost, the first iterations were called a3 or a/cubed (adidas cubed)- they realized a3 was stupid and bought out the rights to boost (from Hush Puppies, go figure). Do you know who names shoes? Lawyers (IP)
disappointed that nike discontinued their shield lineup (which included clothes) and replaced it with gortex shoes. not quite the same. was looking forward to a shield pegasus 41. in comparison, the pegasus trail gortex feels nothing like the non-gortex version around the heel area.
I Got 450 miles on the first 2 pairs of my Invincible 2’s, and could easily go up til 650 miles, as my first 2 pairs of Invincible 1 (70kg & 173cm forefoot striker)
I’m not a gym guy and have no idea what people mean when they ask if a shoe is good for gym. But if you mean weights, I recommend never using any running shoes for weights
Opinion.... This one does not change the game like the original Peg Turbo... Other brands level the game! There are better options for this kind of shoe!
I would guess Nike decided to change the name after the molds for the outsole with Turbo on it were already in production and it was too expensive to scrap that.
probably not any running shoe. i'd probably pick something from a sport that does a lot of jumping or has quick lateral movements. maybe a basketball shoe, indoor soccer shoe, or tennis shoe
I had them, they hurt my leg like some stability shoes and it felt dead, also the stripe rubed my toe...wouldn't recommend them. I got a pair of Hyperion 2s recently at a 30% discount and they blow them out of the water in every way, I might also prefer them over my Vaporflies.
I think this shoe and higher drop actually suits your forefoot strike. This is contrary to popular opinion that high drop is for heel strikers (which I think is wrong). That's why The Runtesters didn't like it as they all heel strike.
@@kofuzi lol ohhhhh i see sorry ive only just looked into a new pair and purchased the vivid purple. I was starting to think id been scammed because they haven’t arrived yet and for the life of me i cant find any videos that include them in that colour.
Nike is missing of a shoes with nylon plate and Zoom X, which it should be light, comfortable and responsive. I've broke the flyknit uppersole of my Streakfly during track session, the pegasus 41 is a "vomero 5 style" with tons of cushioning and the double zoom air. like 19 shoes and for the most are all the same. Nike need to improve this side of the running silos, cutting dry branches and re-think as a running company
this. The Tempo Next% was a shoe that really surprised me. It was basically an alpha fly except at the heel (react and higher stack) with a different upper. The higher flexibility of the plate also made it bearable for slower runs. That bounce from the zoom air pods was nice too. I don't know what happened to Nike. The Peg Turbo was the training companion to the Vaporfly whereas the Tempo Next% was the training companion to the Alphafly. Now they have no race companion options except to wear your race shoe to do speed work or daily runs. Nike created a bunch of different daily trainers which gives people the impression that Nike running shoe aren't just for running anymore. Like 90% of the running lineup fill the same niche (Daily trainer). They know that they mostly sell to consumers and not runners.
@@tommysiharath6988 i'm 100% agree with you. Nike lost the "brand passion for running shoes" making tons of shoes which fit all the same and the sensation are pretty identical. Only vapor and alpha give different vibes, but the other like 17 shoes are pretty the same. i usually run about 60/70km per week, i' a middle distance runner, and for my tempo workout i used in the past the tempo next but now find a pair in decent condition is very rare. Can only use the vaporfly but i can't afford a pair of it every 2/3 month just because the swoosh doesn't have a tempo shoes. I'm just back from a fartlek with the pegasus plus (which have already 100km on the sole) and for me it lacks responsiveness and springiness especially at 3:40/3:50km. This shoe had to have an air zoom capsule and be the perfect pegasus 41, and maybe the real new version of the pegasus turbo (with a big update) could have a nylon plate for fast training, so that Nike could have a plate not aggressive shoes and cover a greater number of runners
Anyone can please explain to me why nike and other companies keep designing shoes with high drop ? - what is the benefits of having higher drop shoe ? - it's honest question, as I do not see any performance benefit of 10mm drop as to let's say 6 or 4mm drop (i don't have any zero drop shoes to compare) As I don't see any performance benefits but I see downside of higher like 10mm drop - it seems always to be enough foam (or to much) in the heel but at the same time not enough in the forefoot... and as everyone is saying this is the case in peg plus (and peg 41) - Question is - why to make shoe with 10mm drop which make most runners complain for not having enough under forefoot, and why not instead make same shoe with let say 5mm or less drop which obviously would mitigate that issue Anyone please explain that to me 🙏
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Man, all this talk about the Turbo heritage and early Zoom X takes me back to about the time I discovered this channel and was really just getting into running.
Drink every time Ko says “Flyknit” 😂
I love knit materials, and I'm particularly persnickety about flyknit
If you read this comment, take another drink 🍻
It's... a shoe with flyknit. Why wouldn't he say flyknit a lot? Might as well just drink when he says "midsole" or "shoe".
@@kofuziit really is a nice material
Yeah but it’s a running channel, drink of electrolytes or a shot of gel 😂
“Ideal Nike lineup” - lists all of Nikes shoes haha. Might as well add Air Force ones for post run beers at the pub with your run club.
❤️ your work Kofuzi!
😂😂😂
Great! Finally a Nike review on the channel!🍿
Legend, I was literally hoping you reviewed this shoe and the king of running shoe reviews never fails to deliver.
Looking forward to Nike ZoomX Pegasus Turbo Next Nature Plus 2
Hahaha too long for a name😊
It will suck
Man the disrespect, why didn't you spell the full name? You know it's the Nike ZoomX Pegasus Turbo Next Nature Plus Ultra Max 2 2025
I really love the Pegasus Plus. I wanted a shoe that felt like the Rebel v4 in uptempo runs and feels good in slower paces. I got that in this shoe. In my opinion, Nike nailed this one. 😊
Would they be good for threshold intervals (3x2mi, etc)
@@alex-dk2rj I have not tried it but I think it can handle interval workouts. My first run in my pair was a hard tempo session and it performed well beyond my expectations.
@@mfcc1084 isn’t hard tempo practically threshold?
@@alex-dk2rj yes technically but for me threshold runs are runs that I go all out fast, the fastest pace that I can dish out. For tempo runs I go on a pace that is fast and hard but not yet all out. I hope this makes sense.
Your reviews of the original peg 35 turbo was how I found your channel. Love to see it come back around.
thanks for the support for all these years!
From what I've seen the renaming to Pegasus Plus is part of a bigger push to 'simplify' the line up of shoes. Pegasus standard, Plus and Premium (2025). Have also seen suggestions that it extends to other models Vomero standard, Plus (Invincible, potential rename), Premium (?). So different categories in the line up would also offer a standard, plus and premium option. I'm not certain but I've heard/ seen multiple outlets/ industry people suggest this is direction Nike are going
I thought it was an IP issue (a la Ford GT40). This reasoning is so much worse
Not being sarcastic, i really love it when Ko discusses shoe (e.g., the Boston 12, this peg turbo 3) and foam naming conventions & consistency (or the lack of). Am I buying a peg turbo, am I buying a ZoomX shoe? They must stand for something.
Names have to mean something
I still have my Peg35 Turbo, wine color. What a fantastic one it was!!!
Loved the way you explained the Nike shoes rotation🤘🏻
Good to see you running and reviewing Nike shoes again. Will you drop a video on the Alphafly 3's? I'd love to hear your thoughts on those. Cheers!
Love the video. Have a pair of the Plus’ and really enjoy it. I heard mixed reviews and opinions but can confirm what you are saying. Happy running
Am I the only one that’s surprised that Mike owns so many Nike shoes 😂
You should follow me on IG
I really wanted it but was unable to find it anywhere so I bought the Mach 6 instead, I think I did the right choice, I always opt for it on every run
Great video and review. I really like the Vomero 17s and feel like they are a better daily trainer option than Peg 41s. Curious to try these out and see how they compare.
Couldn't agree more on the comparison with the Mach 6! Exactly how I felt when I tried the shoes together. I do think the Nikes win in the drip department though.
I’m not a huge fan of the midsole design in this shoe. Something about it look unfinished like it’s a bad sole swap or something.
It does look better on the lighter color uppers of this shoe though
One of the best shoes (Turbo) that Nike has!!!!
May consider for a workout shoe once it inevitably goes on sale and appears in outlets. Otherwise, Mach 6 or SL2 for $130 all day.
Never clicked an upload notification faster, not because I’m a Nike fanboy or anything 👀
Same 😂 , it is definitely the shoe we need to add to our speed day rotation to combine with Streakfly
I loved my original turbos and always wondered why they discontinued them. I'm glad you mentioned about the difference in the zoom X foam though, I had 4 pairs of the flyknit 4% and loved them. I even liked the invincible 2 as a recovery shoe, but the invincible 3... I still just can't get used to them on longer runs... so much so that I switched over hoka more recently but still crave that original zoom x feeling
Good morning. I prefer the Pegasus 41. Happy weekend.
My PT2s fell apart after probably 50 miles. The upper just separated from the lower. My sisters foam just tore. Felt great for speed work though
My first ever pair of speed workout shoes was the Turbo 2. Bought them after watching Kofuzi’s review back then. Don’t know why, but I just love it when Kofuzi reviews Nike shoes. Maybe it’s because it feels like a catch up with an old friend.
Hey kofuzi I am deciding on buying this or the adizero Sl 2 for track and faster training while still can handle long run. I feel like the sl is a better option and price than peg plus, what do you think?
How does it compare to the snappiness of the Streakfly zoomX?
Nice, I have the full option(s) available, however I always rotated in the ZoomFly 4 for tempo run's. Would the Pegasus Turbo / Plus be a good alternative for the Zoom Fly 4 or Tempo Next %?
They kind of could be. There is overlap in what they each do, but they do it quite differently.
Hi Kofuzi, love the video but I wanna ask, is there a reason why you haven't reviewed the Pegasus 41?
Please see me review of the Peg 40
A very specific version of theTurbo is one of my all-time favorite shoes. But I won't tell you what it is for fear of further increasing demand for it on ebay. Yes, you did review it.
was it gyakusou or the shield?
@@kofuziI don’t like the upper of the Gyakusou version. It feels not good as the regular version.
@@laalaa99stl trust me no one is going to scalp for old peg turbos on ebay lol only true goats
The "Flyknit" I enjoy right now is the Mizuno Neo Vista 😅 (A reminder of Nike Lunarepic Flyknit)
Big fan of these. I’ve got like 40 miles in my pair already.
So you had one for a weekend 🤷♀️
@@customcomputerftwno one cares dude
Love mine so far!
Love the look of it... There are just better alternatives now compared to when the Peg Turbo and Peg Turbo 2 were on the market (I own a pair of Peg Turbo 2).
Which Asics model can the Pegasus Plus be compared to?
Novablast 4
I love that you put together an all Nike lineup. I'm curious where the structure 25 would fall for you? Thank you for the fantastic information and entertaining videos!
it's a stability shoe
It's a stability shoe but I‘ve seen videos with Cole Hooker using them during hill repeats or even mile repeats at threshold. So I'm wondering if athletes wear them in front of camera just to promote the shoe and they never use it again or if really it is a great workout/daily shoe
So who would benefit from a "stability" shoe? What are the typical attributes you would look for in this type of shoe?
I've heard that some athletes and runners use stability shoes to support injuries or weaknesses, like achilles tendinotis, weak ankles….
Cooper Teare discusses why he and Cole use the structure in the sova sweat elite video. He basically says that they train in a heavy basic shoe so they build strength and feel extra quick in race shoes on race day.
I miss Nike 3 years ago 😢 as someone who only runs in Nike shoes. They keep getting worse from what they used to be.
You don't have to "ONLY run in Nike shoes"
@@thabokopane8739 obviously
I feel like Nike finally has a good rotation on deck with the new peg plus. I have been using the Plus for those weekly type workouts and uptempo runs, the invincible for all my easy and long runs, and the vaporfly and alphafly for key workouts and races. I also have the vomero but I feel like it's a worse shoe than the Invincible in almost every way, so I rarely use it. I do think the Mach 6 would make for a better option if you only have a one or two shoe rotation (a do it all and maybe a racer). But if you have a cushioned cruiser and a speedy tempo trainer, you can usually bypass the versatile trainer entirely and have more dedicated options. The Plus should definitely be $160 tho.
Looking at the Nike line up and it becomes obvious how limited their running options are compared to most running shoe companies in 2024. Everything outside of their racing shoes seems kind of dated almost. Really cool shoes from 5-10 years ago that haven't changed meaningfully since.
What makes it even funnier with the naming. I bought mine at scheels and the screen rings it up as a Pegasus Turbo 4
I'm guessing Turbo Nature would have rung up as turbo 3 then?
@kofuzi never checked since I found the shoe very uncomfortable,
Edit:
just checked, even the receipt says PEGASUS TRB 4
These shoes completely kill my knees, used the Pegasus turbo years ago and those saved my knees when I was running with Asics Nimbus 18 (Almost gave up running due to those shoes), back in 2018 I've started using Nike and got back the pleasure of running with the Pegasus Turbo, but this Pegasus Plus brought back that knee plain, maybe due to the 10 mm drop, I'm selling mines after 50 km...
These didn't work out for me, too narrow in the forefoot and gave me heel pain, switched to Hyperion 2's and much prefer. If anyone wants an EU 45.5 pair let me know 😉
Peg 2 is my fav shoe of all time, I have a pair left
Ko, you've got to try the Brooks Hyperion 2, similar use case as the Rebel/Mach/PegPlus at $140
My opinion is that, the peg plus is a perfect easy/tempo shoe. Feels great for me at 8-7min/mile, but doesn’t do well at interval/threshold paces.
It is tooooo heavy😢
What about a comparisson with Adidas SL2, what are your thoughts?
Which is more stable?
It’s called plus because there is also a premium version coming. So you will have the peg, peg plus, and the peg premium.
I’m old enough to remember when the Vomero was the premium peg
Great review Mike. Question, the racing ‘stripe’ rubber that’s on the outsole, do you see that being in way of preventing rubber from going somewhere when the foot strikes? Waffles on both sides seem okay but, stripe in middle not sure
It possibly may be there for some intended traction effect but I feel like it’s decorative
Mike what do you think is the best running shoe company right now? My guess is ASICS
it's a great time to be a runner. there's a specific running for just about every runner and just about every use case.
I generally don't think about what running shoe company is best, as it becomes cumbersomely vague and tends to incorporate non-running-shoe-performance criteria like marketing prowess, signature athlete signings, apparel quality, and the most subjective and opaque criteria of them all: value.
Hi Ko 👋 are you gonna review the new balance fresh foam v5? My v4s are on 400 miles now 😅
If NB wants to send me a pair, I’ll be happy to. If they don’t, I will assume that they do not believe it is worth reviewing
@@kofuzi understandable ko 👍 c'mon new balance! Maybe they don't believe in it.
Thank you Mike.
Well said! Tks for sharing👉👊👈
Compare to Brooks Hyperion 2, which one suitable to run a speed training shoe? Speaking 15 to 20K. Any guys have your suggestions?
Im loving mine! I got the white colorway
The white looks way better
Hey Mike,
it's turbo or peg 41 for gymming, HIIT & run on treadmill ?
Need most comfort and cushioning.
Reply will be highly appreciated 👏
I don't know what gymming is, but if it requires weight, jumping, or lateral movements, I will generally not recommend any running shoe
Thanks for trh reply.
Yes looking running on treadmill and cardio workouts. What do you recommend ? Turbo, peg 41 or V17 and really thanks once again. Keep ypnthe good work and content is apricitiable @@kofuzi
Idk if you’d agree, but I think the peg 39 was the last decent peg that came out. I never tried on the pegs in the 30s but based on looks, they look fcukin amazing when it comes to performance and comfort. I tried on the 41 and the 40 at the Nike store, both were just bad. They don’t seem like real running shoes. On the 40 I hated how it was too much padding on the upper, it was just retrded. I tried on the peg plus this past Sunday and I like how they feel. Something I can pick up the pace with. I’ll be ordering them♥️
In retrospect these days, I generally demarcate the 36 as the last really good standard Peg (it was the last to use cushlon, which had its limitations but was good)
But in general, I trust nike more when it comes to running rather than their competitors. I didn’t like the trainers from asics and NB. Guess the pegs will be their least good shoe in the future, and premium pegs will be better for performance and training. I’d prefer Nike just make the pegs the great shoe and not have other lines within the pegs
Not understood segmentation of nike- whats diff of this model vs vomero, whi h also has zoom x and 10 mm drop? Or with invicible, which has just bit more stack....
the shoes are pretty different. I would suggest going to a running store to try them on. this will give you an opportunity to understand how meaningful those seemingly minute variations of paper specs can have when running.
Overpriced like many other shoes but if I were to run in one Nike shoe for the rest of my life, it would be this one and for speed/race Vaporfly 3. I think they would make a great two shoe rotation.
I like the Pegasus 35 zoom x an all time fav of mine. I felt it could do it all all types of runs both road and trail and still good trainer for the gym/weights and treadmill. Maybe not for race day though I think could manage up to a 10k race. Any thoughts Mike Ko between Pegasus 35 zoom x and this shoe as a replacement?
It’s an interesting hypothetical, as I’m not sure a lot of people can find new, 6 year old shoes. But I think you’d find a Peg 35 Turbo to feel like it doesn’t have enough foam for 2024 standards.
@@kofuzi Thank you Mike! I agree though Stock X is a over inflated and Amazon hikes it to $130. As a heavier runner the versatility, durability, and comfort for such a low stacked shoe but your right probably not enough foam. :)
Let's go!
Many better options out there at much lower price, as well as much better durability. I loved the Turbo 2 back in 2019, but shoes like the SL2 today are better. The Plus does look nice for casual wear though 😂
Can confirm Nike shoe rotation for 5k-Half Marathon | Pegasus, Invincible, Streakfly, Vaprofly - is spot on. For marathon training I think Alphafly is probably a better option than Vaporfly and the Vaporfly is probably better than streakfly for workouts. I’ve heard so many good things about the Vomero I really gotta get a pair and test them out myself!
I think you'll like them
@@kofuzi I fear I will too, my bank account won’t be too happy about it though 😂
Vomero 17s are great, never talked about in the Nike lineup, yet does everything the Pegasus does but better. Can get them cheap at the Nike Outlets too.
@@its1027 That’s what everyone keeps telling me, surprised they aren’t talked about more, but maybe that’s a good thing if you can get them for cheap 👀 Definitely have to get a pair soon!
If the toebox is triangle how you don't have problems with your toes rubbing ?
I feel like this isn't a real question but someone that wants to argue about shoe shapes. but if I've misinterpreted tone, I apologize. if you for real want to know about toe rubbing, let me know
@kofuzi I have major problems. My pinky toe rubs against the shoe toe box because many shoes are too narrow and have a pointy shape at the front.
Yo, what’s going on!! I don’t even want to see shoes right now 🙈🙈. I don’t really need more shoes. But you know what. Maybe i do 🤣😂. Pegs always brings good memories 👍🏼
Why turbo is on the outsole- Nike switched strategy midway. they have added this "plus" classification to their basic running shoes. This was going to be a turbo, but then they switched to plus, so it was a rolling change. The molds were already cast, would cost a fortune across the size runs to do over, but upper changes could almost be done on the fly. Same thing happened to adidas boost, the first iterations were called a3 or a/cubed (adidas cubed)- they realized a3 was stupid and bought out the rights to boost (from Hush Puppies, go figure). Do you know who names shoes? Lawyers (IP)
Hi Kofuzi
Any idea what happened to AF3 review video?
Check my reel about the AF3 on IG
so in your smaller size than Nike website info you have a more heavy shoe than the info they put available?
I’m not sure I understand the question, but whatever I said it weighs is what my shoe weighs.
My scale doesn’t care what a website says.
@@kofuzi exactly, from what i understood the info in their website is wrong, thanks for the info.
disappointed that nike discontinued their shield lineup (which included clothes) and replaced it with gortex shoes. not quite the same. was looking forward to a shield pegasus 41. in comparison, the pegasus trail gortex feels nothing like the non-gortex version around the heel area.
Off topic but still zoomX - how much mileage can I expect to get from a pair of Invincible 2's?
250mi for the foam. Uppers start to disintegrate at 300.
I Got 450 miles on the first 2 pairs of my Invincible 2’s, and could easily go up til 650 miles, as my first 2 pairs of Invincible 1 (70kg & 173cm forefoot striker)
@@dejodejodejo thanks for that!
Finally 😍
I've been hearing people comparing this to the adidas Sl2. Which one to pick?
I have not heard anyone compare this to the Adizero SL2. They’re pretty different
@kofuzi which would you pick?
does this have a removeable insole???
How is it compared to Syreakfly? Both zoomx
I discuss the streakfly in this video
Would these be good for working out in the gym?
I’m not a gym guy and have no idea what people mean when they ask if a shoe is good for gym.
But if you mean weights, I recommend never using any running shoes for weights
What about for jumping/plyos and squatting (flat foot stance stability)?
yeah, still no running shoes for that
Opinion....
This one does not change the game like the original Peg Turbo... Other brands level the game!
There are better options for this kind of shoe!
I would guess Nike decided to change the name after the molds for the outsole with Turbo on it were already in production and it was too expensive to scrap that.
A couple of people have said that, but if that is true, then I will stop calling this a Turbo
Are they comparable to Puma Deviate 2/3?
Yeah kinda
@@kofuzithanks. Just ordered both to compare - need a replacement for Deviate 2 that didn’t survive a trail.
Life is too short to cram my fairly wide feet into Nikes
WHAT SHOES IS BEST FOR PLYOMETRICS?
probably not any running shoe. i'd probably pick something from a sport that does a lot of jumping or has quick lateral movements. maybe a basketball shoe, indoor soccer shoe, or tennis shoe
It's been a while since the last time I buy a Nike. Maybe this will be the one if I start again
Always an insant watch 👍🙂
I had them, they hurt my leg like some stability shoes and it felt dead, also the stripe rubed my toe...wouldn't recommend them. I got a pair of Hyperion 2s recently at a 30% discount and they blow them out of the water in every way, I might also prefer them over my Vaporflies.
Adizero SL2
I think this shoe and higher drop actually suits your forefoot strike.
This is contrary to popular opinion that high drop is for heel strikers (which I think is wrong).
That's why The Runtesters didn't like it as they all heel strike.
Is is similar to Nimbus 26?
Not at all
Pegasus Next Natures were so mid but I got a couple for $60 and put 400 miles in them LOL
Wheres the vivid purple colour???
It’s hard for me to include shoes that didn’t exist at the time of filming
@@kofuzi lol ohhhhh i see sorry ive only just looked into a new pair and purchased the vivid purple. I was starting to think id been scammed because they haven’t arrived yet and for the life of me i cant find any videos that include them in that colour.
Nike is missing of a shoes with nylon plate and Zoom X, which it should be light, comfortable and responsive. I've broke the flyknit uppersole of my Streakfly during track session, the pegasus 41 is a "vomero 5 style" with tons of cushioning and the double zoom air. like 19 shoes and for the most are all the same. Nike need to improve this side of the running silos, cutting dry branches and re-think as a running company
this. The Tempo Next% was a shoe that really surprised me. It was basically an alpha fly except at the heel (react and higher stack) with a different upper. The higher flexibility of the plate also made it bearable for slower runs. That bounce from the zoom air pods was nice too. I don't know what happened to Nike. The Peg Turbo was the training companion to the Vaporfly whereas the Tempo Next% was the training companion to the Alphafly. Now they have no race companion options except to wear your race shoe to do speed work or daily runs. Nike created a bunch of different daily trainers which gives people the impression that Nike running shoe aren't just for running anymore. Like 90% of the running lineup fill the same niche (Daily trainer). They know that they mostly sell to consumers and not runners.
@@tommysiharath6988 i'm 100% agree with you. Nike lost the "brand passion for running shoes" making tons of shoes which fit all the same and the sensation are pretty identical. Only vapor and alpha give different vibes, but the other like 17 shoes are pretty the same. i usually run about 60/70km per week, i' a middle distance runner, and for my tempo workout i used in the past the tempo next but now find a pair in decent condition is very rare. Can only use the vaporfly but i can't afford a pair of it every 2/3 month just because the swoosh doesn't have a tempo shoes. I'm just back from a fartlek with the pegasus plus (which have already 100km on the sole) and for me it lacks responsiveness and springiness especially at 3:40/3:50km. This shoe had to have an air zoom capsule and be the perfect pegasus 41, and maybe the real new version of the pegasus turbo (with a big update) could have a nylon plate for fast training, so that Nike could have a plate not aggressive shoes and cover a greater number of runners
Maybe nike dont want to be related to asics's ff turbo foam
Nike’s clearly lost the plot on the performance running segment.
Anyone can please explain to me why nike and other companies keep designing shoes with high drop ? - what is the benefits of having higher drop shoe ? - it's honest question, as I do not see any performance benefit of 10mm drop as to let's say 6 or 4mm drop (i don't have any zero drop shoes to compare)
As I don't see any performance benefits but I see downside of higher like 10mm drop - it seems always to be enough foam (or to much) in the heel but at the same time not enough in the forefoot... and as everyone is saying this is the case in peg plus (and peg 41) -
Question is - why to make shoe with 10mm drop which make most runners complain for not having enough under forefoot, and why not instead make same shoe with let say 5mm or less drop which obviously would mitigate that issue
Anyone please explain that to me 🙏
Puede ser que tú no lo sufras Pero existen personas como yo que se nos cargan los gemelos y soleos y nos dan contracciones musculares.. yo he visto zapas de menos de de droop.. y aunke me encanten.. tengo que dejarlas pasar x k se la consecuencia de usarlas... Así que también te tienes que acondicionar o busca tus drop de menos de 6.
am I the only one trying to click 'Analytics' or 'Edit video' button at 3:08??
The "Streak" was a racing flat from a few years ago. You meant "Streak Fly".
I miss the zoom streak. Pylon was underrated
@@kofuzi I only had the Streak 7, would still like to see Zoomx paired with something like Pylon.
FLYKNIT
Turbroooooo
“…flyknit….”
this peg naming scheme is so konfuzing!
I don't like alphafly 3 it's a weird shoe.. that people has sickly feeling about it.😆😅🤣😂
And it's Not for everyone..😝
Tge 4 percent looks dork
This is gibberish
ADIDAS SL2 at its price point really embarrasses this shoe 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻