TIMBER SLEEPERS - 3 Ways to Build Walls and Raised Beds
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- One of our most viewed types of projects is building with oak sleepers. I have tried a few options over the years, so here is a look at some of those. This would apply to oak, treated or reclaimed sleepers. Full build videos and tools used below.
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Was thinking today about starting a project like this in the summer and then I see this notification. Very grateful !
Perfect timing. This is my project this summer. Currently doing lots of prep work getting lawn level.
How did you get on ?
Wondering the same!
Thank you, I had so many questions about doing this properly, and you answered all of them. At least now I can do it with confidence and knowing it won't move or break.
I’ve watched every single one of your videos and still loved this .. I helped a friend lay a decking many year ago...we were novices ( and not too young ) and he sent a picture over after he had pressure washed like you do in isolation..and it’s still strong looking good...so proud! It’s good to look back and see these project stand the test of time. 🙋🏻♀️🇬🇧💕
Great summary - thank you! A project for the Spring for me. I saw a nice lighting detail on another video which I’m going to use - sleeper wall built up on their edges with a top sleeper capping wide side down. Routing a groove along the underside to take an LED strip light. Looked great!
do you have the link to that video please
Wow,that's so professionally built,amazing!
Converted my garage following your videos and am now looking to do our garden and searched retaining wall in RUclips and couldn’t be happier to see you face - I haven’t even watched the video yet ha but know that I can trust your advice!
Thanks for pulling this together. Great work. The cables hanging from your computer monitor triggered my OCD 😃
Always helpful and inspiring, excellent techniques. Your a pro. Hope you are all well and safe.
A very useful summary, Tim. Hope you’re all keeping safe and well 👍
Great advice and such an easy video to watch and understand Tim. Thanks,All the best
Thanks for the good information on how the are built 💯.
I will be using this advice on my own build. Thanks again 👍
Yay! I like this vertical design!
This is a superb video. Excellent build, and very well thought through.
Excellent work!! Thanks for sharing...
Fair play just seen your video on raised beds and sleeper wall, good ideas will defo try out, send pics when done. 👍🏻
I did method #1 last year, followed your video. Very heavy work on your own, but results great. I bought the oaks dowels, but only used them as detail, I did not fancy being spun by the drill! Thanks for videos
It was a little bucking bronco if you don’t hold on tight! 😂
@@TheRestorationCouple Hi, can I build a small house out of this? Or no ? I just wondering because the wall out of this sleepers looks so good. Thanks
Very helpful video, going to try a small raised bed today! (I normally only work with masonry related stuff!)
Just found you! Super grateful for the material. Keep up the great work 🤛🏻
Great job looks amazing
...perfect video..I have made a few ideas now..thanks for posting..Jason in Perth Australia
Love all three ideas. Currently looking to convert the front of my garden with sleepers. It’s a new build so the soil is very clayey and crap if I’m honest.
Not the best at diy but hoping it doesn’t look crap when I’m finished lol
That was an amazing video. Thank you for the ideas
Thanks for a great reminder video, very useful! I'm planning to put a retaining wall using sleepers in the middle of my sloping garden to create 2 separate flat terraces. Can you please suggest how should I tackle drainage in the garden area which will be behind the 600mm sleeper wall? The subsoil is heavy clay..
i like the vertical wall, 'im going to do a mix of horizontal, then add a vertical curve to retain a driveway space. Cheers
Lovely advice and clear love it
Great video! On the second method, you fixed the corners with posts sitting inside the bed (hidden) but I was wondering what you did on the corners angling the other opposite way? I don't really want to put a post on the outside. Thanks.
very useful video dude.
thanks for posting it.
Interesting channel. Just creating two short sections with vertical Azobe sleepers, very heavy! Not the cheapest but I'm hoping they will outlast me. Also putting in some steps using the same sleepers. Doing it myself I can appreciate the amount of work you've put into these projects.
As an amateur the more detail about methods and materials the better, thanks for taking the time to create the videos.
I used a concrete strip footing and through bolted the the first row of sleepers down., Similar to a timber frame house. You have to counter bore the holes so the stud and nut sit below flush and you can get a socket on it. Its easy to get everything level first with the shuttering for the concrete. I just timberlock screw the rest together. Rock solid.
This is a really good video. Thanks.
You completely inspired me to build a Sleeper wall. Would never have had the confidence before so thank you. Its gone great and looks wonderful. Would you be able to provide a link to the osmo oil you used as I love the finish and colour you ended with?
Awesome. Really nice work.
Great video and well explained method
Great vid, really useful👍👍
Great video. Stay safe
❤love this channel!!!
Great video as always Tim! Have you used sleepers to do any outdoor steps? I need to build a 20 meter staircase on a sloped track, was thinking is using sleepers and securing at the top and bottom corners in concrete footings.
Awesome video thank you, very practical and helpful. Question on the second type, how did you secure the "internal corners". I understand on a standard external corner using a post into the ground as per your video. But on the opposite type of corner (which i have 2 to deal with). I'm curious about how you secured it to the ground.
Nice one mate.
Gony have a bash at this over the summer.
Very helpful thank you!
I love it!!!
Really helpful, thanks 🙏
Great video, thanks. What did you line the beds with at 4.34, and how did you fix it to the timber - stapled? Would DPM sheet do the trick? Presumably you have geotextile on the bottom? Thanks!
Good greef, have I been watching these vlogs 6 years!!! How time flys and I remember watching those. But hey, your children where just babes then!!!!! Here's to the next 6.
Great videos , keep safe and keep up the good work :)
Great video - really helped me decide layout and fixing. Can you tell me which specific Osmo oil you used on the laid flat? Looks great!
I have a large garden that needs a total restoration. I also have a banking that runs for about 15 feet. I just can't afford to have a wall built so this is my answer. It might sound daft but as I'm planning on doing it next year, I'm going to buy a few sleepers every month to make the costs more manageable. Luckily I have plenty of room to store them.
Good stuff Tim. I saw the original videos but it's nice to see a recap, especially as I have 22 sleepers turning up on Monday for a low retaining wall. Ground works almost finished, two 90 degree returns at the ends and steps built in the middle to lock it all together. Sounds easy lol 😆
Hi Andy - your comment caught my eye as all the builders and timber merchants where I live (South Devon) are closed - so I'm intrigued to know who you've found that's taking orders and making deliveries during the lock down? A link to your supplier would be much appreciated - thanks in advance! ;-)
Same here Tim, I ended up getting them online from railwaysleepers.com. Probably not the cheapest way of doing it but as you say, most timber yards are closed.
Thanks.
Very good/interesting video.
I was thinking of making a sleeper 'unit' but I was thinking on having the bottom one FLAT & the others.on top of that on their sides, what do you think?
Now I've seen this I will put post at each corner for added strength.
I'm now thinking of drilling holes through them as you did.on your 1st build but using METAL bars through the sleepers that are on their sides as well as metal plates screwed to them, what you think?
Thanks.
Thanks so much for this video. Im pleased you've shown it four years after as well.
Just spent most of today clearing paving and dirt ready to do exactly this,raised beds and seating combined.
But where do I get nice oak sleepers like that and those great looking dowels? look great and keeps it nice and rustic but clean.
Great video, I’m starting my own sleeper retaining wall project soon, I’m going to stack them with the thin side down as in your second video, with support sleepers at the front vertically, would you concrete in the first course of sleepers?
Hi mate. Hope you're well. I'm in the process of building a sleeper retaining wall. I'll be using RSJs vertically concreted in. Might be a silly question but how big should I dig the holes. I'm doing half in the hole half out. It's just the diameter of the hole I'm curious about. Thanks
Excellent video mate. Just what I need for my garden project in summer. Is it best to set your sleepers first then do the crusher run/ soil bed.
great channel ....been thinking of a sauna made from sleepers for the backyard...any tips
Great projects.
With the sleepers soldiered end on how deep did you dig the trench ?
For gravel and to the lower open side?
Hey, where do I find the ‘build video series’ mentioned at ‘7.04’? Thanks.
Hi, how long did the beds take you to build in method 2? Looks great 👍🏻
Good clip bro cheers from Oz...
Well this came at good time
loved watching this, great ideas!!..it actually made me a bit tired watching you work though lol
Hi Tim, for the wall around your patio what size sleepers did you use? thanks
Thanks for the great video! What drill bit did you use for the 25mm dowel hole? Do you need a special drill to fit that size drill bit? Thanks again!
I used rebar to hold my lumber together. drilled hole thru all of the stack of lumber and used piece of rebar long enough to go into ground to hold lumber in place.
Yeah that’s a good option especially with softwood.
Great video and information, but how can I fix sleepers down on to a concrete base that's already there . I'm stacking them up on the higher side as your 2nd video.
The colour on this sleepers at time 3:05 is absolutely fantastic deep colour. I heard you mentioned Osmo which I used for my internal oak flooring, but would anyone know what colour this is from Osmo external?
Absolutely great job btw with those sleepers, its given me a bit of inspiration for another project, and i'd like them to colour match yours in the video!
Looks very good. I’m surprised you didn’t include any drainage holes or pipes in the wall. Waters heavy.
so should we really only look to use white oak for garden projects? is there much visual difference between white oaks?
What do you think about painting the base and the sides of the timber where it meets soil with bitumen paint? Is it going to protect the oak from rot or the waterproofing mght be a bad idea since timber rots more quickly mainly due to water not being able to seep away? Thanks
Have been watching your channel for ages, but only now getting a chance to put things into practice. Can I ask how you found the weight of the sleepers? Any advice on which ones to get? I am a female diy-er with help from my husband when he can, so needing advice whether to get lighter ones (if there is a such thing!) so I can attempt the project alone or best to wait for when my other half is free to help shift them about. We're hoping to do a vertical sleeper wall project about 1-1.2m high and 14m long. Thanks so much.
Tim I thought you would be using TIMco screws :).
Very nice outcome and precise trimming. The only question I'd have is how long would it last without chemical treatment of that retaining wall at the end of the video.. I woul be suspicious. Done some projects myself and seems to me that not only the soil is culprite but moisture generally, concrete contact would do same in my opinion but i wished I'd be wrong.
Hi in the raised beds (2nd project in this video) around 4:31 mins, you have some kind of black plastic lining with holes , is this for drainage /protection from soil touching the sleepers? And what is it called ? Many thanks , great work as always :)
Hello Tim how are you and the family loved the video as always stay safe
All good here thank you. Keeping busy. 👍
We’ve built our raised bed using sleepers but I can’t find how I should fill them. The base is old paving slabs so I need a base of gravel or something then a membrane and the soil etc. I’m just not sure about drainage and planting (furniture maker not a gardener ha)
Good video by the way 👍
I loved the vertical option but wonder if it holds up to boys walking across the tops like little squirrels. I know they will so thought I better ask!
Yes definitely holds up. Can’t remember how old this video is but our girls still walk along it now ages 11,8 and 5!
Hi I want to do something similar, regarding to 25mm drill holes what size dowels did you use? Thanks
Hi Tim, love your videos and your methodical approach to DIY, keep up the great work mate. Quick question, can you recall which Osmo Tint colour you went for on your sleeper wall/patio? Regards Chris
Oak is the uv oil tint name.
Hi thanks for sharing this brilliant video. I'm going to be making a raised patio using the sleepers on edge method with 4x4 fence posts as supports (the 2nd way shown here). Apart from the fixings being stainless steel what thickness should the coach screws be? and how long? 7"? Thanks a lot. Really enjoyed watching the video. Thanks.
Take a look at last weeks video. Might be a better guide, 150 landscaping screws are best.
Used your method before for stacking! Great video as always. I am going to do vertical now for a retaining wall on a driveway(sloped) how deep does the the trench have to be to support the load behind? Cheers!
Hi mate, did you figure this out at all? I got the same project, my slope is quite steep and I need a height of about 3-4ft
@@TheWidowMaker. Hi, what I did was cement a sleeper deep every 6 and used fence rails on the back side and have a smaller trench in between. I cemented the trench and applied tar to the back to protect them. You might want to do every 4 or so deep or a deeper smaller trench as your wall will be higher than mine but it should hold, I've had no problems since I finished the project.
Thanks for the inspiring video! Could you tell me what it was you lined the raised bed with? They look like a great idea.
That’s what I’m here for ☹️ we need answers 😀
We have used method 1 & 2, using sleeper brackets to fix firmly into the ground for first ‘layer’, also keeps corners rigid. Loved your third way too...saw an example locally. Have you done one on sleeper steps?
There were two steps last months in the bbq area build. 👍
How deep did you set the posts in, I assume using post crete?
Going sound like a daft question but what type of sander do you use to get that finish?
Hi new to channel. How do I put a more obtuse angle in sleepers for a corner? And can I just use sand and gravel as the bed please? Thanks
Great video, I am just about to start on my garden and this advice will be really useful. I have also been catching up on your other videos on this subject. What company did you get your oak sleepers from please, any chance you can post the link?
Used a few different places. Most sawmills and suppliers sell them now. Quite a variation in quality though so best to see them in person. Just make sure they are European white oak rather than inferior imports.
Great wirk. I always wish we could get price estimates.
Do you only have to overlap at the corners as long as the length of your project allows for it if doing a raised bed?
What size circular saw did you upgrade to? looks the perfect size
.Working on sleepers for steps and raised beds in my garden this week - but treated pine, not oak.
Treated pine for the steps is find, but you don't want treated pine if you are trying to grow organic food. If they are just flower bed than you're ok.
Laying them on the 4 inch edge, say three high with concreted posts behind, is the gravel foundation so important (30 metre straight run to do)
i've never heard of these until now. what are they and what are the dimensions
How deep would you recommend for posts on a single retaining sleeper 200mm height upright?
You inspired me to build some walls using sleepers. I used a mixture of your great ideas. I built the walls by using the 200mm height on top of each other. Then I drilled a hole and then used timco long screws to secure. Then used dowls to fill the space I have drill out to make it look like Tim's impressive dowls that had been drilled all the way through all the sleepers. This way I hid the screws and had dowls instead.
Bahco 244. 7 teeth 8 points handsaw. Fantastic cut edge and only takes 2 mins to cut
Hello,
You did a wonderful display of workmanship and skillfulness on this build and I hope you would be kind enough to answer those few questions:
1- You have anchored yours down to the ground using metal spikes to concrete, I have seen many builds where they dig a 3' long metal spike/peg into the ground but not sure how that will hold up over time as metal will rust out over time. I prefer your method.
2- If we're comparing the same build to a stone retaining wall, would timber be more cost-effective, and if so, by how much?
3- What would be the longevity expected from this wall compared to stone/cement build?
I'm really looking to do my own retaining wall and I already know hiring a professional is going to cost thousands and having watched a few vids, it looks more than doable but there's always questions to be asked. Of course there's engineering involved in this and absolutely no cutting corners or cheaping out and but the results are definitely worth it.
Many thanks again! :)
Great chanel!!
Just wondering if your in the trades or u learn as you go? Very informative stuff and helps me out loads!!
Thanks. No, it’s all DIY here. 👍
Nice using them dowels
I’d hate to have this take them apart now! 😂
I'm building one soon in vertical. From about 4 foot down to about 8 inch. In a curved pattern. Thanks for sharing your video. 👍
Hi, how deep did you dig down n your vertical wall? I’m looking for a 60cm wall, and hoping 30cm (90cm sleeper length)trench is deep enough
@@tomdavis8644 Hi I'm a bit old school and measure in feet and inches most of the time. But on the sections of railway sleepers that are around 4foot out of the ground I dug down around 18 inches and put around 2 inches of gravel for drainage then concrete. As I worked down to the lower sleepers I just dug a bit less. On the ones that are only around 4 inches out of the ground I just used around 3 inches of concrete. I did it a few months ago now and it's as solid as a rock. I did fix a metal strap to the rear of them just below ground level. The galvanised metal strap was just the mesh trim that plasterers use. I hope this helps you mate. Good luck 👍
@@davescopes249 Thanks Dave, Imperial mine will be 2 foot out and 1 foot deep, which sounds sufficient...
What concrete mix ratio did you use?👍
@@tomdavis8644 yes mate. If you are only having the sleepers 2 foot out of the ground then one foot deep is more than enough. I used a 6 part ballast to one part cement mix roughly. It won't need to be spot on. 👍
@@davescopes249 was it a dry mix like in the video? Thanks 👍