The Original BMCC 2.5k | The GODFATHER of BMD

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  • Опубликовано: 8 дек 2020
  • Is the Original BMCC 2.5k still a worthwhile camera to consider going into 2022?
    **An in-depth review of the Original BMCC 2.5k**
    REVIEW OF THE ORIGINAL BMPCC: tinyurl.com/y3h6umqg
    Sample BMCC 2.5k and BMPCC OG footage: tinyurl.com/y3679shz
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  • @AntonDoiron
    @AntonDoiron 8 месяцев назад +5

    I bought an EF version in 2013. I use the tokina 11-16 for wide shots. When my battery wore out I sent it in to Blackmagic and they replaced it with a battery that seems higher capacity. I actually used a cheap 12volt Lead Acid battery as an external battery and got a couple hours of recording. Its really hard to get stable shots without a rig, tripod, or gimbal. I have a review on my channel using a DJI Ronin-S with the BMCC. The EF combined with an L series 24-105 stabilized lens is awesome. It should be easy to find SSD drives as they've gotten faster and cheaper. I bought a 500gb Samsung 2 years ago. Slow drives drop frames and Ive had to do a low level erase occasionally to fix dropped frame issues.

    • @HeyElvisG
      @HeyElvisG 2 месяца назад

      how much did they charge you for replacing the battery?

    • @AntonDoiron
      @AntonDoiron 2 месяца назад

      @@HeyElvisG I think it was around $150 US dollars plus I had to pay for round trip shipping.

  • @OfficialTopherZ
    @OfficialTopherZ 3 года назад +1

    Your channel is crazy underrated, I subbed!!

  • @alex_montoya
    @alex_montoya 3 года назад +20

    It's a great camera. You can do really crazy things to those sweet dng's.

  • @DavidComdico
    @DavidComdico 3 года назад +11

    Well done. Makes me hesitate to sell my Godfather. I don't use it much but it has such a unique look. The OG went last year to be replaced by a GH5.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +5

      Thanks for watching! Have you shot much recently with the camera?

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel
    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel 3 года назад +7

    I love this idea of taking a look back at older cameras Will, keep these type of videos coming, we get so caught up in what's great now. Keep up the good work!

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +2

      Thank you! Definitely more to come :)

  • @13StopsPocketFilms
    @13StopsPocketFilms 3 года назад +3

    Love this coverage. And your color grade is awesome.

  • @GearZenChannel
    @GearZenChannel 3 года назад +3

    I rigged up a BMCC for anamorphic with a SLR Magic 1.33x Anamorphot-50. With a Canon 24mm f2.8 IS you get a reasonable focal length, stabilization, and even basic auto focus. That you can get such a rig now as a hobbyist without selling a kidney is really amazing. I still have my Canon 1014XLS Super 8 in the basement and spent time with a Krasnogorsk K16 not all THAT long ago. People now really don't know how good they have it!!!
    Thanks for the great video!

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      Very cool! And s8 will always have a soft spot in my heart. I also once had a 1014 (non xls) and also used a Beaulieu 6008 pro a few times. Fun cameras--very expensive to shoot, lol.

    • @GearZenChannel
      @GearZenChannel 3 года назад

      @@WillvonTagen I had the Beaulieu 6008 too! Funny how we all aspire to similar things. I thought that the new Kodak Super 8 camera was going to revive the format, but it seems like they either dropped the ball or just gave up. I keep thinking of selling the 1014, but can't quite do it yet.

  • @kentjensen4504
    @kentjensen4504 2 года назад +1

    Happy Thanksgivings to you, Mr Von Tagen! I hope you and your loved ones are all well, and that you find success with whatever projects you're working on.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  2 года назад +1

      Thanks man! You'll be glad to know I just finished rebuilding my set and have a fresh script ready to go. Should have something new in the next week or so. My goal is to have 2 new videos before the end of the year.

    • @kentjensen4504
      @kentjensen4504 2 года назад

      @@WillvonTagen That sounds excellent. Good man.

  • @asidtone6465
    @asidtone6465 3 года назад +4

    I love the quick history of cameras at the beginning

  • @jamesmathews243
    @jamesmathews243 3 года назад +4

    Following the Great Recession, I rebuilt my company on these two cameras, adding the BMPC4K in 2017. They are tried and true and I enjoy seeing the renewed interest in them.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      They are great!

    • @Yaroslav70384
      @Yaroslav70384 5 месяцев назад

      what is the latest firmware for these cameras?

  • @SourceAwareness
    @SourceAwareness 3 года назад +2

    Hello Will! Brother, I deeply appreciate you and what you're sharing with us. Excellent, excellent content. I'm still fairly new to learning about the BMCC line of cameras, and your reviews are top-notch and go well beyond what most are saying about the capabilities of these awesome cameras, as I'm sure you're aware.
    😅 I love the way you think, my friend, and looking forward to more of your awesome work. Cheers.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      Wow, thanks so much man, I really appreciate the kind words! Thanks so much for watching and I hope to keep making good videos for you!

    • @SourceAwareness
      @SourceAwareness 3 года назад

      @@WillvonTagen Very welcome, Will! I look forward to whatever you share on your channel. 🙂 ✌☮

  • @bla28627
    @bla28627 3 года назад +2

    I'm glad I found your channel. I really enjoy your content.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      Thank you! I am working to get more out there!

  • @filmic_man
    @filmic_man Год назад +1

    I purchased my BMCC EF 2.5K on 2/19/2014 for $1,036.87, along with a Tokina lens and a Digistor 240GB SSD, and never used them. Long story. Now, nine years later, I'm putting the pieces together. My camera charges to 100% and it likes the SSD card, displaying 'Ready.' I haven't used the camera yet. That's for this weekend after a SSD cable arrives so I can port files to my computer. I'm so looking forward to experimenting. And learning how to use DaVinci Resolve. (I, of course, have the dongle.) Videos like this one, Will, are invaluable to me as I start this journey. Many thanks!

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  Год назад

      So glad it was helpful, thanks for watching! Good luck and have fun with the filming. If you need some tips to start, I have a video about filing with the original pocket camera that might be useful for you to get your settings dialed in. They’re almost identical when it comes to settings.

  • @ErdincMusic
    @ErdincMusic 3 года назад +4

    I love this camera. I am using for all of my music videos and I am also shooting a short film with it next month.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      It's a great camera for sure :)

  • @Praxiszooms
    @Praxiszooms 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for that review. Great shots of Berlin. Now I will have fun to shoot with the camera again :).

  • @shzammpatapon9865
    @shzammpatapon9865 3 года назад +6

    the colours of these old bmpcc is so great man. the alexa sensor really did wonders. but nowadays i prefer to shoot with a7siii and i want to make the jump the next year or so. it's more flexible for the type of work that i do

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      Yes, for a lot of practical gigs it is better to have a more universal camera. That's part of why I stress that these are first and foremost "cinema cameras" available at a consumer level.

  • @DrixxMadison
    @DrixxMadison Год назад

    What a fantastic breakdown! Thanks. 🤘🏼

  • @News_Today
    @News_Today 3 года назад +2

    Madlads!!! In 2012 they released a camera with internal SSD recorder!!! I didn't even have an SSD in my laptop in that time period.

  • @yodaless_
    @yodaless_ Год назад +1

    I still come back to this video every now and then when my BMCC is left collecting dusts. Fingerscross for more work this year using this camera!

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  Год назад +1

      Hope so too! It’s a great camera :)

    • @yodaless_
      @yodaless_ Год назад

      @@WillvonTagen thanks! It really is

  • @rockascreen1109
    @rockascreen1109 3 года назад +6

    I have those two original ones and the bmpcc4k.In my opinion the Cinema DNG gives you much more space to manipulate in post than BRaw.Anyways I still love the old ones.The good Image will be good forever.Thanks Will!

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +4

      They are soooooo good. Thanks for watching man!

  • @josues.junior5409
    @josues.junior5409 2 года назад

    Excellent information and how it was delivered, thank you very much.

  • @garethryancreative
    @garethryancreative 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the detailed breakdown

  • @redstoneranger1404
    @redstoneranger1404 Год назад +1

    After watching this video, I just bought my first camera - a BMCC 2.5k. Subscribed.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  Год назад

      Thanks for watching and good luck with the camera!

  • @BurninSven1
    @BurninSven1 3 года назад +2

    I got one and it actually also works as an ssd audiorecorder if you would need one. The inputs are balanced pro standard so you can route your stereo audiomix in to it and the same time use it as a camera

    • @BurninSven1
      @BurninSven1 3 года назад +1

      And I have used it for livestreaming in to OBS to youtube on a Lenovo PC laptop via the thunderbolt port

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      Sounds like a great trick!

  • @rezaVfx
    @rezaVfx 2 года назад +1

    Thx man .great video. Plz make more videos on BMCC

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  2 года назад

      I'll see what I can do! I sold the camera before my move--but am planning a video soon on the micro cinema camera.

  • @marshallandroxy
    @marshallandroxy 2 года назад +5

    The black hole/sun issue was fixed in firmware years ago. Great camera. I use my Ursa 4.6k and P4k primarily, but the image out of my BMCC 2.4k is the best.

  • @valentinvoicu663
    @valentinvoicu663 3 года назад +2

    New blackmagic color space is more contrasty and for me looks more digital then the original one. If you have troubles with noise then BCC noise reductions is the best option to clean the image or Davinci luma
    .

  • @septentrio-films871
    @septentrio-films871 3 года назад +2

    Thank you very much for this video. I just bought this model used, after having the original bmpcc, and I still love the colors Blackmagic give. I went from sony a6400 to bmcc 2.5 and I do not regret it. It is a cinema camera.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching! And I agree, the look of BM is just amazing :)

    • @septentrio-films871
      @septentrio-films871 3 года назад

      @@WillvonTagen What do youin order to be able to edit in 12 bit on davinci?

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      @@septentrio-films871 I don't edit the RAW directly, I will proxy it out into ProRes, edit in Premiere, and then that an XML back into Resolve, reapply the RAW and just do the color grading from there--then export my final.

    • @septentrio-films871
      @septentrio-films871 3 года назад

      @@WillvonTagen is there any tutorial that covers this technique?

    • @kptalteamtv6084
      @kptalteamtv6084 2 года назад

      Am also jumping from the a6400 o the bmcc 2.5k

  • @davinjacobs
    @davinjacobs 3 года назад +3

    Loved this camera. I made a vid about the 4K version but I really really really wish it had the same dynamic range as this camera.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      It's a great little camera! Thanks for watching :)

  • @nooddles12
    @nooddles12 Год назад

    the godfather was an all time great movie. this camera is in the same conversation for reputation. i’m glad i got it.

  • @robocoontv3245
    @robocoontv3245 3 года назад +2

    They used it more then I expected for Mad Max Fury Road. I think there is an effect in DaVinci Resolve that solves the Blacksun issue but I haven't tried it yet. I have the EF version since 2014 and use the sigma 18-35mm and Tokina 11-16mm almost all the time. The image of this camera still beats a lot of today's cams. Still in love with it. Recently I bought a saramonic preamp made for this cam. Thx for the video

    • @aholder4471
      @aholder4471 3 года назад +2

      Did it actually help the audio? Because no matter what I've done I have not been able to get usable audio out of it. I really can't even get audio good enough for a scratch audio track tbh. If this camera had decent audio, it would definitely be my favorite. I love the image but the audio is trash no matter what I do.

    • @robocoontv3245
      @robocoontv3245 3 года назад +1

      @@aholder4471 that saramonic makes it a bit better but for professional stuff I would use external audio. I got the saramonic for cheap so I thought it was worth testing it

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      Love the image for sure :)

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      Take a look into getting a set of Tentacle Sync units and then attach a h6 to the top of your cage. The tentacle will create timecode for you so syncing audio is a snap later on. They are great units.

  • @danilomc9124
    @danilomc9124 2 года назад

    A great good and amazing camera! My first cinema camera, thank you for your reminding video👍🏻👌🏻

  • @bentonpix
    @bentonpix 2 года назад +1

    Sold my original 2.5k, but kept the amazing OG Pocket. After getting the OG URSA 4.6k, I never touched the 2.5k , but still use the pocket.

  • @chrisbogart687
    @chrisbogart687 Год назад +3

    Usually the MFT version sells now for much more than the EF. I looked long and hard for the MFT and nabbed one. I do have a good collection of MFT cinema lenses. Also have the Blackmagic video assist for SDI/HDMI conversion and external monitor. Also rigged with a DXA-BMD for XLR to RCA for audio and V mount battery. Just a workhorse of a camera.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  Год назад

      I think they are often listed for more… but they tend to still sell for under $500. I actually just repurchased one over the last year for around $350. Great camera! I hope you are shooting some great stuff!

  • @ozcinemarob
    @ozcinemarob 2 года назад +1

    I still use mine as a B cam - never lets me down, superb camera made to last.

  • @leucio87
    @leucio87 3 года назад +1

    hi, great job, I love your videos, I think you should make more of them! :)

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      Thanks man! I really wish I could get more out but I have been busy with some larger projects. More to come for sure though!

  • @redhouse409
    @redhouse409 Год назад

    just found me one for 500 bucks and i'm excited for it to come in. Going to be my first cinema build

  • @stephanes.
    @stephanes. Год назад +1

    I have one but I also use the S5 paired with an Atomos Ninja V for Prores Raw, beautiful also

  • @ProfessioneVideomaker
    @ProfessioneVideomaker 3 года назад +2

    I've both bmcc 2,5, pocket fhd and Pocket 4K. BMCC 2,5 achieves the best "film look", where the modern bmpcc4k looks a little bit "digital".

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +3

      It does have a "crisper" edge on the 4K. They are all great tools, but I agree I prefer the older models for narrative work :)

  • @universemediallc
    @universemediallc 3 года назад +13

    This is the ONLY camera I use these days.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +5

      That's amazing! It's a great camera :)

    • @amarmitra
      @amarmitra 3 года назад +3

      whats the SSD situation now? i have this laying around.

    • @professionelguide1097
      @professionelguide1097 3 года назад +2

      @@amarmitra sandisk extreme works well with the camera

  • @Aaron_Smith_OM
    @Aaron_Smith_OM 3 года назад +12

    Man. That was my first cinema cameras and it taught me a lot, especially about false color, exposure, and RAW. Now, my father has it and loves it to death.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      It's a solid camera for sure :)

    • @aako-dd1ly
      @aako-dd1ly 11 месяцев назад

      I love the old black magic cameras. Currently rigging out my og BMPCC to hopefully last forever. Sadly my screen is currently experiencing major pixel death. These things are becoming rare. Even rarer in decent useable condition. Definitely need to pick up a few more

  • @stevenrayphoto1280
    @stevenrayphoto1280 Год назад +1

    Awesome video with perfect in-depth information! Do you need to use an IR cut filter with this camera?

    • @AlexanderOshiame
      @AlexanderOshiame 8 месяцев назад

      I really need an answer to this because I have one and I fear that even if I do remove the IR cut Filter because it has issues I'd get a red looking footage without the IR cut filter, and I really need the camera

  • @GRTHK
    @GRTHK 3 года назад +14

    Sshhh... stop telling everyone how great the BMCC is. We may need to buy another at some point!

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +2

      Hahaha, well based on how long it is taking me to re-sell mine I don't think there is too much worry yet ;) Also! Love your stuff! Great work man :)

    •  Год назад

      Si, se estaban poniendo baratas y ahora están caras. No tienen sentido todos los problemas si cuesta lo mismo que una 4k.

    • @Saheli-Medias
      @Saheli-Medias 12 дней назад

      Now it is hard to find the MFT version and sometimes it cost almost the same price as the bmpcc 4k.

  • @quarzcompany9810
    @quarzcompany9810 3 года назад +4

    Great video, important information, you mention that media can be transferred through the thunderbolt port, I have the BMCC 2.5K canon mount, but I have not been able to achieve it, can you explain how this is possible

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for bringing this up! After looking a bit deeper, you are 100% right. It is just for recoding HD Externally. I have cut that portion out of the video--RUclips is processing that now. Thanks for checking me there :)

  • @valentinvoicu663
    @valentinvoicu663 3 года назад +3

    Hey there, i am a bmcc 2.5k ef owner. U can use m42 really good quality glass like helios 44, 35. And i install a speedbooster inside the camera mount gettind the s35 sensor coverage.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      Sounds like a good setup!

    • @Cymatic18
      @Cymatic18 3 года назад

      Where Can I get the internal speed booster from?

    • @andnow2214
      @andnow2214 2 года назад

      Hey Valentin, how did you do this with the internal speed booster?

  • @BorchOka
    @BorchOka 3 года назад +1

    Thank you! 👍 👍 👍 🤝 best review, helped me a lot!

  • @inspirecreativeinternational
    @inspirecreativeinternational 3 года назад +1

    Awesome review. I used the original Pocket when when it first came out. I have the big URSA 4K (which I am selling) plus I have the P4K. The images from the original pocket were spectacular. I am not over impressed with the Pocket 4K but it is a VERY useful tool. My current quandary is that we are working on a documentary and a lot of it will be 2-3 cam interviews. We need to deliver in 4K for film festivals and I was considering getting 2 BMPC or BMCCs and upscaling. Or even 2x original pockets and upscaling. All of my glass is EF so I was thinking of 2 x BMPC 4K. In your opinion would you lean towards the BMPC 4K or the 2.5k with speed booster and upscale ? Many thanks!

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      I wouldn't worry too much about delivering 4K to festivals (or even distributors). The majority of festivals screen at theaters that only have 2K projectors available--and 4K projectors still project 2K DCPs. But if it is an easy workflow for you--by all means do it.
      As far as cameras, If you want to shoot RAW the BMPC4K eats a TON of data--the 2.5K is more manageable. If ALL your glass is EF and NOT cine glass (zeiss etc.) the 2.5K MFT is a good option. But if the EF lenses require power you would want the EF version of the BMCC 2.5.
      The OG pocket is also a good option--but for a documentary the 2.5 or 4k BMCC/BMPC might be better because of the better audio and form factor.
      All that said--if it were me I would actually use the BMPCC4k. I think it is the best all around tool of the lot, and would make the most sense for a documentary shoot. If it was fiction/narrative I think it wouldn't matter as much--but the older BMD cameras don't lend themselves quite as well to run and gun that might be needed for a doc.

  • @obscurity_films
    @obscurity_films 3 года назад +5

    Super informative as always. Honestly, I think these great older cameras with >4k resolution are still going to be viable options for a long time (as long as they work). Needing more resolution for the "big screen" seems to be becoming more and more a thing of the past with the way theaters are going...

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +2

      Very true. HD is pretty much 2K and 2K is all you need for DCPs. I used the original pocket on my second feature and it spent a few weeks in a few small theatres. It always held up fantastic on the big screen ;)

  • @valentinvoicu663
    @valentinvoicu663 3 года назад +2

    Also, ettr works the best with this camera even with proress 422 hq at asa 800 native iso for this sensor.

  • @antman1762
    @antman1762 3 года назад +1

    Great Video!

  • @wns430
    @wns430 3 года назад +2

    I really like my bmcc 2.5k. It shows wonderful shots

  • @KristopherDreger
    @KristopherDreger 3 года назад +2

    Great video!
    I know this is not a normal use case, as this is a cinema camera, but I’m looking for a camera for live productions (sdi output) and found a cheap used BM 2.5k. (Would go through a switcher and then to some live TVs, streamed and recorded.)
    Would this camera work for this use? Are there any limitations on the sdi feed that I should be aware of?
    I’m a bit worried about the low light capabilities as it would be a live band setting so indoor and not a ton of illumination.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  2 года назад +1

      Sorry for the very late response. I am not sure how this would be for that type of situation.. If anything the 2.5 BMPC (Production Camera vs Cinema Camera) might be beneficial for you. It also came in a 4K model.

  • @wallemmedia
    @wallemmedia 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for the very detailed review!
    It would definitely be a step up for me as I'm shooting on Nikon D610. It really is fun to push the limits of this veteran, but looking for other options for video. I'm torn between getting the 2.5K even just to see if I actually need RAW (to invest in BMPCC 6K later on) or just shell out for a GH5(S), mainly cause it can be a backup photo shooter and it's got autofocus for when doing interviews for example (otherwise I prefer manual). Have you got any input on this?
    Thanks anyway for this informative film and beautiful footage 😄

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      I would get the new 4K over the GH5--the look is much better. I think the 4k is a good option since it seems like you will use the camera quite a lot and I tend to use the Pocket and 2.5k more for fun, side projects. The 6K is also great, but I don't see the advantage unless you are doing client work and they want 6K--the 6K will eat a lot more data and the 4K will give you more lens options.

  • @ludwigvonmises1
    @ludwigvonmises1 7 месяцев назад

    Great content

  • @jolladevices
    @jolladevices Год назад

    @WillvonTagen does the EF version will accept the SIGMA SA-mount normally?
    (the bayonet is almost the same)

  • @usernamenotvisibIe
    @usernamenotvisibIe 6 месяцев назад

    Will, can you please explain the SDI "fist in, last out" procedure so not to fry ones SDI port on the 2.5k?

  • @FrankGlencairn
    @FrankGlencairn Месяц назад +1

    Still one of my favorite cameras.

  • @MikeKalLive
    @MikeKalLive 3 года назад +1

    Hey Will, would you mind sharing where you got the step up ring and slide in cap at 2:50? I am currently in search for one of those and don't know what to look for exactly.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      The step-up is a 52-77mm and the cap is a 80mm cap. I got the step-ups on amazon and the cap on eBay. Just search for 80mm lens cap and a few should pop up :)

  • @saintmanuel
    @saintmanuel 3 года назад +2

    Do you know there's a function in resolve that fixes the black hole sun with a simple click. So that doesn't take much work. I still have the 2.5k EF and like it a lot, despite its flaws

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      Oh that's awesome! Thanks for the note. I remove a lot of labels and logos in my work and so I have a pretty fast way of doing that in resolve, but nothing beats Auto! :)

  • @seven7hsine
    @seven7hsine Год назад +1

    Great video. Lots of info that i needed.
    Which would you choose for your first xmas movie as a DP ?
    The 2.5k or the OG?
    I have an slr magic 17mm t1.8 cine lens for the OG.
    And i use the sigma 17-55 mm 2.8 ef for the 2.5k.
    I have other lenses for both but prefer the image that these lenses produce.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  Год назад

      Honestly, for a locked down production I would recommend the 2.5k (as much as I love the pocket). If you can take advantage of the more professional connections (SDI etc) then they are totally worth having. The SSDs are so inexpensive now and the extra resolution ,right be nice to have. Actual "look" wise they are nearly identical, but the 2.5 is just made a bit more for full production work. If you are wanting to run a bit more guerrilla I would say OG--but it does not sound like this is the case.
      I would, however, consider the MFT version if possible. The Meike cine primes are fantastic on these cameras and are very inexpensive to own or rent. It will also be a lot easier to get wider than 17mm--which I think you will want if you are shooting indoors a lot.
      One amendment to what I say in this video--you can indeed use the metabones speed booster to attach active-mount ef glass to the MFT version, you just need to run 5v power to the speed booster and it will allow you to adjust iris and activate image stabilization if your lens has it.

  • @stephanes.
    @stephanes. Год назад

    Very filmic! So gorgeous!

  • @chunmattlai3058
    @chunmattlai3058 3 года назад +1

    Love your video my friend, do you have the BM micro cinema camera ?

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      Thanks man! I do not currently own a Micro--but I have in the past. I was not the biggest fan of the camera (sold it to repurchase the pocket). The image is certainly solid--but I did not care for the ergonomics of the body (menu access, port connection etc.). If I can get my hands on one for cheap I will do a review there as well in the future :)

  • @risingempireentertainment
    @risingempireentertainment Год назад +1

    I still use it. its my fav camera.

  • @Renenko
    @Renenko 3 года назад +2

    Footage still looks great!

  • @karaniqbal1870
    @karaniqbal1870 3 года назад +1

    Great video, thanks. How big a deal are moire and IR issues as some people howl and cry about them. And if so are there any specific tips, ND's and IR filters you would recommend to deal with the issues. Thanks.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      I don't find moire to be a big issue. Yes, there are some textures to avoid but moire is also very easy to correct in post if you find it has poisoned your image once you start reviewing it.

    • @AlexanderOshiame
      @AlexanderOshiame 8 месяцев назад

      What about the IR cut issue @Willvon

  • @monkynutzuk
    @monkynutzuk 3 года назад +2

    that sweet fairchild sensor

  • @garthmccarthy4911
    @garthmccarthy4911 2 года назад +1

    The Black hole sun issue was sorted with further firmware updates. I am on the latest which is release 2.1...

  • @eurosoccerschoolsbloemfont5610
    @eurosoccerschoolsbloemfont5610 3 года назад

    very helpful thanks

  • @valentinvoicu663
    @valentinvoicu663 2 года назад +1

    I figure it out how to mount a speed boister between the lens and sensor on bmcc ef 2.5 k so i can use all my canon af and gain 1stop of light + minmize the crop factor wirh the super 35 look

  • @PawelChyrowski
    @PawelChyrowski 3 года назад +1

    Great content. Great video. Also big fan of old BM's. I still use original Pocket and the best camera on the World ------ Micro CC :) Cheers

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      Thank you! I actually just picked up a Micro again and will do a review of that too sometime soon :)

    • @PawelChyrowski
      @PawelChyrowski 3 года назад

      @@WillvonTagen wow! It will awesome !!!

  • @screen_spirit740
    @screen_spirit740 3 года назад +1

    Great video. What do you think of the Blackmagic Production Camera 4K? It seems to get forgotten about.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      It's also a great camera and fixes a few of the issues presented with the 2.5k. However, it is extremely data hungry. I believe a 480GB SSD only gets you 12 minutes in 4K RAW--so that is a bit inconvenient.

    • @screen_spirit740
      @screen_spirit740 3 года назад

      @@WillvonTagen Ah thanks for pointing that out.

  • @XanderPhillips
    @XanderPhillips 3 года назад +2

    If you want a real budget option for a wide angle. I bought an F3.5 8mm fish eye. By Pixco.
    It’s £60 average (I think you can even get it on wish😂) but it’s served me well so far, It takes up no room and if you’re travelling around like I am or you need to get a wide angle fast. it’s perfect. They also do it in C mount form too.
    Samyang also do a MFT fish eye as well that’s supposedly pretty good but I’ve not bought it so can’t comment. Hope this helps someone out 😊.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      Awesome! Thanks for the tip! :)

  • @usernamenotvisibIe
    @usernamenotvisibIe 3 года назад +2

    You okay buddy? Just checking in on you...give us a sign you're alive and well.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +2

      Thanks for checking in! Yes, I feel awful about not making any vids for a while but I moved back to the US and am in the middle of pitching a show to HGTV. The good news is I have lots to talk about... just need to find some time to record and edit :)

    • @usernamenotvisibIe
      @usernamenotvisibIe 3 года назад

      @@WillvonTagen no need to rush into creating videos, kiddo. Just wanted to make sure you were doing ok. HGTV, that's awesome...sounds very promising and prosperous.

  • @PhilippeOrlando
    @PhilippeOrlando 2 года назад +2

    I love the image from those cams, but convenience and usability is kind of huge and frankly I'm wondering if it's worth buying such a camat 800 bucks, current price on Ebay, compared to around $1000 for the new BMPCC 4K?

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  2 года назад

      If you can afford it and see yourself using the camera often for work--I would go with the 4K. I think this is a bit of a specific workflow that might now be helpful to your needs.

  • @shinzychan5117
    @shinzychan5117 3 года назад +2

    Very informative video as always, thanks. My Bmcc fan switches on as soon as camera is on, do u know how to fix this ?
    Please let me know

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      Thanks man! No, unfortunately I don't think there is a way to turn that off :-/

    • @CaravanCamera
      @CaravanCamera 3 года назад

      It’s supposed to. It reduces it speed when you start recording.

  • @FrankGlencairn
    @FrankGlencairn 3 года назад +4

    The black hole can be easily dealt with in Resolve, there is a button for it.

  • @bernardjackson4974
    @bernardjackson4974 Год назад

    Just ordered one ! What brand and memory size SSD drive do you recommend ?

  • @PaulKepnerProductions
    @PaulKepnerProductions 2 года назад

    How long does the camera run with the external NPF battery powering it

  • @VIJAYShortFilms
    @VIJAYShortFilms 3 года назад +1

    Very informative 👏 👌

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      Glad you think so! Thanks for watching :)

  • @cjsfriend2
    @cjsfriend2 2 года назад +1

    Any recommendations for a gimbal and this camera? (looking to go as budget/compact on one as possible)

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  2 года назад +1

      The early model Ronin S is a safe bet. I did not like the Mozas and beyond that I haven't tried anything else. The Ronin SC might work but I cannot say for sure.

  • @Davidh741
    @Davidh741 3 месяца назад +1

    Hi love the video what spedboster did you use

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 месяца назад

      I think that was just a standard .71x FD to MFT speedbooster.

  • @marco_cippo
    @marco_cippo 3 года назад +2

    Why the bridge footage on the double tap argoument was unbelievable solid, without any real stabilization?

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +2

      I believe I am leaning on the rail there with my elbow to help keep the shot stable. Also it is a fairly wide lens. I may have also slowed down the shot a little in post--but I don't remember any more. I have a few trick up my sleeves ;)

  • @angelovq
    @angelovq 3 года назад +1

    Hey there! are you using a LUT? really liked the color grading.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      Do you mean for the BRoll/BMCC footage or the actual vlog?

  • @victormultanen1981
    @victormultanen1981 2 года назад

    ef mount may adopt F-mount lenses using small adapter.

  • @Akasacarafilm
    @Akasacarafilm 9 месяцев назад +1

    I shot my first feature film with this back in 2014 !!! In a world that is aaaaaaaaaaaall about 7D and 5DMark and full frame BS. My best decision ever.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  9 месяцев назад

      That’s awesome! Do you have a trailer somewhere?

    • @Akasacarafilm
      @Akasacarafilm 9 месяцев назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/ufPoyTKB2Ic/видео.htmlsi=FhQuoqdWqep4s0aD

    • @Akasacarafilm
      @Akasacarafilm 9 месяцев назад

      Thanksss

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  9 месяцев назад

      Looks great! Awesome work!

  • @chrisnguyendop
    @chrisnguyendop 2 года назад

    Curious what your thoughts are for the 4k version of this camera?

  • @sagesoundgadgets3091
    @sagesoundgadgets3091 2 месяца назад

    Can you give me a link to buy those batteries you ate using?

  • @zechkurien3031
    @zechkurien3031 3 года назад +1

    I shoot on this with my friend (it's his). I'm not saying it's better but I legitimately preferred it over the a7siii

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад

      It's a very special camera, I love them :)

  • @annasophiarobb69
    @annasophiarobb69 2 года назад +1

    So, what cable do you use to connect this camera to that smallrig battery plate?

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  2 года назад

      I'm not sure the exact brand--it could be Alvin's Cable, but its just a D-Tap to DC input :) I think there is a lot of flexibility in what you use, but as always; you sometimes get what you pay for.

  • @Supercon57
    @Supercon57 Год назад +1

    I thought they patched out the black sun effect?
    It's been awhile since I've messed with that camera so I could be mistaken

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  Год назад

      You are correct. The camera wasn’t completely updated when I made the review but it was fixed by BMD.

  • @ozielisaacmendozagarcia323
    @ozielisaacmendozagarcia323 3 года назад +2

    What camera did you use on movie? the photography was so good!

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      Almosting It we used the Red Epic MX and Heritage we used the Original BMPCC :)

    • @ozielisaacmendozagarcia323
      @ozielisaacmendozagarcia323 3 года назад +2

      @@WillvonTagen wow! I have the original bmpcc and I did not know that it would be possible to film with that quality. I did not know the power of the bmpcc until now, thank you, this inspires me to keep experimenting and get more out of my camera.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      @@ozielisaacmendozagarcia323 It's a fantastic camera. Good luck! :)

  • @thankyouspicychili
    @thankyouspicychili 3 года назад +1

    Will you do one on the production 4K as well?

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  3 года назад +1

      If I can get my hands on one I will certainly do my best :) (though from a ergonomic standpoint--much of the same observations here apply--it is just an image quality note beyond that).

  • @pasyensyatv9092
    @pasyensyatv9092 Год назад +1

    what program did you use and steps for editing and rendering to get that footage?

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  Год назад +1

      On short form projects I color and render all the footage out of davinci resolve and then edit in premiere. For longer form, I will take the footage back into resolve once the edit is „locked“ for a final round of color grade to the raw before a high quality final export. If you watch my video on “best BMPCC og settings” I show go over that process. It is the same for the 2.5k. Good luck!

  • @EricNorcross
    @EricNorcross Год назад

    Prosumer grade? Seen them using it on a professional union shoot.

  • @FilmmakingSock
    @FilmmakingSock 3 года назад +2

    Good stuff

  • @haydensalter1098
    @haydensalter1098 3 года назад +1

    Can someone describe the character/look of this camera? My friend has one I’m considering buying of them.

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  2 года назад

      I would just look for other video samples of it on youtube or vimeo

  • @Eyekonproductions
    @Eyekonproductions Год назад +1

    I’m going to Budapest this summer and I’m trying to debate between this camera and the OG. Any suggestions would be great. I will be traveling to the Czech Republic, and Prague

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  Год назад

      For travel I think the OG with a stabilized lens and small battery pack would be best. The 2.5k doesn’t support IS lenses unless you have the ef mount (or a speedbooster with power running into the adapter). Add the battery to that and it’s quite a big camera to be carrying around. The OG will get you Just as nice of footage and have a much smaller footprint while on the go.

    • @Eyekonproductions
      @Eyekonproductions Год назад +1

      @@WillvonTagen the problem is it’s hard to find one on eBay. Some of them are asking $700 $800. I have canon lenses, so I definitely have to spend extra to rig it up. At that point, I think you’d probably be worth it just to get a 4K.?

    • @WillvonTagen
      @WillvonTagen  Год назад +1

      @@Eyekonproductions You need to wait and be very patient. Even though many are posted for $700+, they rarely sell for that amount (check "sold history" on eBay for proof). I actually picked up a second one a couple months ago for $250, you just need to watch and wait.
      Also, keep in mind that things like a cage can cost well over $150 and are tough to find. If a camera is listed for $500 and includes a cage that is still a good deal.
      Canon lenses can still work with the OG.
      If you are thinking BMPCC4k then that is a very good camera but does sell still for around $850 and you will still need lenses and battery solutions. It's a great camera, but does have quite a different look and is much larger than the OG.
      To get an OG "travel friendly" you are looking at $350 for the camera, $300 for the Panasonic 12-35 (great lens), $75 for an ND filter, $100 for battery adapter, batteries and charger, $20-50 for memory cards depending on the size. With that added up you are still spending less than just the body of the BMPCC4k.
      It's up to you, but it is definitely possible to build up a cheap, affordable, usable kit for the OG.

    • @Eyekonproductions
      @Eyekonproductions Год назад

      @@WillvonTagen okay thanks! Will look and update when I find one!

  • @wakkowarner8810
    @wakkowarner8810 Год назад

    I have the bmpcc 4k but I got the grandfather and the og because I wanted a camera that can record lossless cinema dng raw.

  • @nikitabarbakov4745
    @nikitabarbakov4745 9 месяцев назад +2

    Can anyone recommend an SSD for this camera? I only found the old recommended SSD list but now its too outdated.

    • @nytevision
      @nytevision 4 месяца назад

      having this same problem

    • @nikitabarbakov4745
      @nikitabarbakov4745 4 месяца назад

      I bought samsung 870 evo 1tb+spacer everything works fine.@@nytevision

  • @Seph_vision
    @Seph_vision Месяц назад

    Actually shooting a feature with this cam still