Adam Schefter calls for action on Tua Tagovailoa's injury | Get Up
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
- Adam Schefter joins Get Up to give the latest updates on Miami Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa's head and neck injury.
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Thank you my brother for saying CTE because none of these other commentators has said the three letters all morning
How wild is that? It seems like everyone else is afraid to say those 3 magic letters
Feel bad for Tua, man. He should absolutely not have been in that game given what happened last week. Hope he makes a FULL recovery. Prayers to him from a Bengals fan
From a Browns fan .. prayers for Tua
Why don’t you find out what really happened last Sunday it was his back and ankle no concussion
@@plightfoot8491 what video did you watch? He looked confused and shakey on his feet. He also immediately grabbed his head after hitting the ground.
Thanks man, lifelong Fins fan and live 15 minutes from the stadium here.
I mean 2 concussions in a week u can literally die from that man
I think part of it also is Thursday night games need to go. There is just not enough time for recovery and for players to get their bodies ready to play.
Tua wasn’t gonna be there regardless, Thursday nights are fine. Because you get a 10 days window to prepare for next game.
I agree with you on Thursday night games. There's just not enough time between Sunday and Thursday to prepare your body and recover from the war you just went through on that sunday. I like how the previous comment completely ignores this fact, doesn't even address it, and immediately talks about the break you have after the Thursday game. That's not what you were talking about and I understood that
Not to mention that the home team has soooo much advantage. It's almost like the game is fixed for the home team.
@@amadoumaiga8503 10 days to recover AFTER- is irrelevant. Because it's AFTER the short week. You're illogical AF. You should be embarrassed.
@@amadoumaiga8503 this makes No sense
We all saw him stumble on Sunday . Why is Miami acting like they didn’t see it . I was looking for a back up fantasy quarterback cause I thought he wouldn’t play .
They did and here the thing they are not say "he wasnt stumbling, he looks fine and doesnt look like a concussion" no they said the nfl neuro doctor look at him and said he pass the concussion protocol
Miami did see it, they initiated the concussion protocol. The player passed and was cleared to play by the team doctor and an independent league-appointed doctor. Tua wanted to return and he was cleared by two doctors.
@@jordanlazo7468 any neurologist worth his salt would’ve seen the motor instability and would’ve ruled out back injury. If it was the back injury they said he had, he wouldn’t have been able to go back in. Those docs should be fired whether the dolphins pressured them to do it or not.
Facts
@@AR-io8fv he was walking fine in the second half now this game they did the right thing by taking him to the hospital which he was clear by a doctor who is not an affiliate to miami bangles or the nfl
The NFL owes Tua Tagovailoa money. He almost got killed on prime time football bc the NFL dosent care. He deserves so much better. Prayers up for Tua❤️🙏🏼
If he’s out permanently then absolutely. This was a egregious and gross move on the dolphins and their doctors. Miami and the NFL should settle out of court and paid him the max contract for the 2023 season which should be around 280 - 300 million.
@@venom74799 he’s not going to be out permanently tf are you talking about.. he flew back to Miami hours after the incident
@@chris40v17 i honestly hope he doesn’t go back to play for the season and after this season he leaves yall for a team that actually cares about his health and i would certainly love to see the dolphins sink like they have on the past years.
@@venom74799 lol healthy or not tua will never make that type of money simply because he isn't good enough to warrant that. No team is giving him that. I feel bad for tua but he's so injury prone he should just retire at this point before he gets a lifelong injury
@@limone2464 man you acting like Tua is some elite QB. He has 1 good game against the worst secondary in the league lol
Put sensors in every helmet measuring force of impact. Have a league wide threshold for single peak impact and volume of impact. If the threshold is reached, the player is out of the game and / or entered into concussion protocol
Force is not the only modulating factor of concussion.
Best idea I've heard in a long time
This has huge potential bro.
THIS CAN BE MANIPULATED
Dang Tua can't get a break, injuries after injuries. He's talented, Faith 1st dude, humbled kid. I hope he gets better and prospers from then on out. He deserves it.
Go watch "Any Given Sunday" medical staff, the front office, the whole leadership team in the Miami Dolphins organization is responsible. They possibly ruined this kid's life because of this dumb decision letting him play. He's such a good kid, I hope he heals quick and continues to play the sport he loves. In the end it's just a game.
Unfortunately CTE is invisible to the naked eye. I really hope he's ok long term
Shut up lmao you are not a doctor, have you ever heard of a stinger?? Obviously last night was a concussion but don't pretend like you know better than the two doctors that cleared him and said it was his back.
Exactly
I really hate how Tua is going to be remembered mostly by this situation. The kid is talented and his heart is amazing. But, for some reason he can’t get a break when it comes to injuries.
he gets injured because of his size
I won’t remember him off his lowest moments.
@MM M A bit of a reach, at least we know you have an imagination.
@@PriCEGotBeats Id you know the evil and greediness of Amazon, it's not really a stretch.
@@hakeemsd70m it is, Discount Kyrie Irving.
Praying for Tua and his family. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
When I got a TBI in the army I couldn’t do anything for a MONTH. A full month… the whole 5 days is insane
FACTS FACTS FACTS!! I’m so sick for Tua man 😢🙏🙏
He better get his money if he has to retire or something comes out
This is an example of the NFL putting profit ahead of health.
not the NFL ... a coach trying to make a name for himself
The nfl had nothing to do with this.. the dolphins are just awful
It might be time for independent doctors that the NFL has control over rather than team doctors to start clearing people. I know it would be very unpopular but inside physicians have a conflict of interest.
I wouldn’t go that far, it’s the teams and the team doctors decision, like Shefter said they all have different protocols that they have their own doctored opinion. Blame the team doctors and the ONE persons decision on letting Tua return, not the league
Or it could just be a freak accident and nobodyhad an agenda
I don't even know Tua like that, I'm a hard-core dolphin fan. I cried of what I saw, he didn't deserve that, he shouldn't have been in the game at all. Prayers out to him.
I am a nurse and it saddens my heart that both his coach and more importantly the medical staff was this negligent. Grateful he is ok but it really is sad. I used to be a school Nurse and many girls suffered concussions (from falling off horses, etc.)There was a VERY specific protocol to be followed no matter what the athlete wanted. Medical Staff- THIS IS SOMEONE’s LIFE. His LIFE. I could not even watch the rest of the game I was so sick to my stomach…
same here
2nd injury was because of someones negligent behaviour, but allowing him to play in the game against the Bills wasn't negligence...they knew he was injured and still allowed him to play. There was intent there.
So you were there, you know for an absolute fact that he had a concussion. Or are you rendering a serious medical opinion by watching a 10 sec video clip? I guess you’ve never watched boxing when a guys legs get wobbly but he fights another 10 rounds
@@mikelliteras397 Boxers get that way because they fight, because of exhaustion and the physical tole the sport is taking to their body. Plus boxers get concused all the time. Tua's unstable walk was a result of one blow when the head hit the groud. That is textbook concusion or at least a concusion like injury. I do have a medical degree and I'm fully aware of the consequences of alowing someone in Tua's state to play a violent game like american football, just minutes after the injury.
@@mikelliteras397 the amount of press and attention this is receiving is because if you were watching and have any amount of medical knowledge, it was so blatantly symptomatic of head injury that he should not have played Sunday or Thursday. Secondary head injuries can be fatal. If it was not so blatant, there would be no discussion.
This is so crazy. Prayers to Tua and his family. He should have been out for this game and never played. Smh so sad.
The problem is, how can you be clear from protocol so fast? Like I understand: Tua is in a Dak Prescott situation right now. He needs a contract and needs to prove himself. But no way should he be playing just to get manhandled.
Tua's injury demonstrates players' need to care for themselves, not the team or anything else. Lamar, better focus and pay attention and not worry about the Team or fans because for them you are entertaining and revenue. I hope Tua is good, but after the Sunday game, he shouldn't have played last night.
On god but then the media start calling these players selfish for taking care of themselves instead of the team just look at kyrie smh 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
It’s a little deeper then that. It’s easy for someone who is older and never played football competitively to say “put yourself first” in hindsight, but it ain’t that simple
What Tua needs to do is hit the weight room. He got thrown around like an out of control woman. Gen Z doesn't lift because they're too busy on social media. If he spent any time lifting and building his core strength up, he doesn't get tossed around like that
Yeah but you're also not a doctor and you don't know anything that happened but yeah, we all experts now lol.
@@Zenigundam you are so off the mark and you are so missing the point. This is not about him lifting ways or him being at being strong enough this was about close and competence and a failure to protect the players from themselves. His life may have been changed forever in the worst possible way we won't know for a while
Let’s be honest here. This is wining at all cost!! Even if meant your career/health.
Prayers for Tua…
Fact: if he didn’t get hurt
Thursday there would be talk about Sunday. Now all blame Sunday instead of stopping him prior Thursday.
Well said Ninko and Adam. Especially tablet part. Tua didn't want to let everyone down. I get it. But EVERYONE let him down. Period. Foreshame!
Miami was blinded by a 3-0 start.
Jokes on them they're going nowhere with Bridgewater until Tua is 100%
Miami was worried about potentially repeating their perfect season 50 Years Later.
@@firingallcylinders2949 there schedule is easy coming up which I don’t get why they didn’t just sit Tua
Soon to be 3-13. 😂
Facts
Schefty is the only good thing left on ESPN. Preach
Thank you for speaking up!
There’s gotta be some kind of investigation into the Dolphins
It's time for independent doctors outside of teams to clear people, not team trainers
They are a criminal organization.
@@2ssrs950 says a jets fan lmao
@@plightfoot8491 not a jets fan rofl
@@2ssrs950 ok bills or ravens maybe lol
Them doctors need to get fired
Were any of these Reporters saying anything BEFORE the game, like that Tua shouldn't be playing? All I'm hearing is that now that something happened they're all piling on like they KNEW he shouldn't be playing because of what happened against the Bills.
I can’t believe they let him play Thursday night. ESPN didn’t question the concussion protocol. All week, they praised Tua for his play and “toughness”. Now they’re all up in arms. Give me a break.
Regardless of last night there needed to be an investigation as to what happened last Sunday. Tua clearly had his bell rung, shook his head twice and fall to his knees, that was no back injury. Last night had nothing to do with last Sunday, he clearly banged his head and neck again. If he had taken a regular hit last night and then wobbled there would be a huge controversy and i could understand the anger today.
Flores would have benched him during Sunday after the play, rightfully so
Duh. Blacks 4 blacks. Dam vanilla folk always keepin us down
Flores would have TRADED HIM. and with my support
All these old “tough” guys will say that Tua and this new version of football is soft
Facts. These young men deserve to live a full and healthy life after their careers, older nfl players are dying left and right because of damage to their brains and bodies.
Players today are so much more bigger faster and stronger which makes it more brutal than ever
Tia is soft af. Can't even get tackled like a man
@@dbone024 who hurt you?
yea cuz its true. tua is just too small for the NFL and he paid the price. It was gonna happen sooner or later. and im a dolphins fan.
if every team has different medical requirements/procedures that's a major problem to me.
One of the scariest thing I have seen in my 30 years watching the NFL. Tua should not have played. Just be safe. When you see him shaky. Back injury or concussed. But watching the video he doesn't favor his back. Its his head he favors sunday. Protect your players. One thing to have injury that minor play through it but obviously wasn't minor way he was acting on sunday.
I said last night after seeing Tua hit his head the way that he did... the medical staff need to be investigated and potentially fired for putting his career and health at risk due to their incompetence because there is no way he should've played last night after suffering that obvious concussion on Sunday. The Dolphins organization failed big time and need to be held accountable. Prayers up to Tua as a packers fan 🙏🏽
It wasnt a back injury that was a concussion and they let that guy play Thursday and suffered a massive concussion
DO YOU HAVE A PHD?
If the player passes all of the tests and the player wants to play, He will play!
Maybe the NFL needs to implement more testing and better observations. And maybe, just maybe the NFL should stop it with these Thursday Night games.
NFL should consider alternating/rotating players weekly.
For example the set of players who played week one will rest in week two and play on week three.
This give more opportunities for players and allows rest to recover from injuries.
I've never seen Schefter this upset
God Bless Tua and family.......Let's Go Buckeyes! BEAT xichigan!
Rules and protocols need to be fixed obviously
Amen Rob 🙏
Watching the hit live. I think anyone would have suffered some kind of injury from that hit.
I thought that, too ... I probably would have been killed .... I hope he gets the rest he needs now
I agree I said the same thing he was freaking slammed anybody would have got a concussion from that
Heads need to roll on this one. Seriously
Why because dumb @ss refused to run it or throw it out of bounds?
Not sure how people can continue supporting a league that treats their players this way
You mean with the athlete himself saying he's fine, everyone he talked to said he appeared clear-eyed (incl. The entire TNF team), the HC, the teams medical staff, an INDEPENDENT neurologist.. All said he was fine.
And it's somehow an evil league, solely because of this incident? Lol
@@mowgli8480 cats don’t get cavities. However, they can have other dental issues.
What was scary about last night’s sack was that Tua hit the turf like a rag doll, almost as if he didn’t have the wherewithal to brace for the hit. Seems to me like most quarterbacks will brace for the hit when being sacked. Its obvious to the casual observer that he wasn’t alright on Sunday. It’s really unfortunate that the concussion protocol / team doctors have failed Tua completely. I hope Tua will be ok in the long run.
You're digging too deep, he was simply trying not to fumble.
the tackle from 4 days ago was not even a hard tackle. I honestly believe Tua has a biological or genetic factor that increases his chances of receiving a concussion.
@@TheBrotherHoodSports I’m just looking at his body language.
@@davidteer80 He had his head bounce off of the ground, then stood up unstable, stumbling and shaking his head. Your comment makes no sense to me. I don’t see how some people are genetically predisposed to head injuries but others are not.
@@davidteer80 thanks for your reaching wild guess….
I can only imagine how Brian Flores must be feeling at this moment!
Don't be surprised if Tua retires after this or at the least sit out the rest of the season!
Bill Broome sends
SIMPLE!!! They told him to say he's having back and ankle to get around the instability issue. That's most visible issue he had and the negated it by saying it was those injuries that caused it. Everything else is questioning in which he could very well answer correctly with time when his head clears. They did him and his a disservice. He will likely have life long issues after this.
I’m 22 & CTE is starting to appear. I won’t ever hurt myself or take my life. I have a therapist so I have help god forbid it gets weird up in my head. I love all of you who’ve had multiple concussions & if u didn’t, I still love you.
Because if doctors were saying that he’s good, that means they probably did not do their job correctly as far as examination if to see if he has a concussion because if you’re a doctor, and if you have many years experience, you should know the difference between a back injury in a concussion there’s no difference it’s obvious.
Exactly. Just because they have years of experience, working for professional sports teams, or just simply did their work in college to get to where they’re at now doesn’t mean they’re perfect. That’s something a lot of people don’t understand
We all knew Tua had a concussion from that hit in the bills game. Shame on the owners and GM for playing him against the bengals. Godell fine them and take draft picks. !! Send a strong message to all NFL owners. That was bogus how they did Tua.😢
IF ANYONE NEEDS TO BE FINED IS THE DOCTORS
Feel better tua
Sounds like Miami needs new Drs I hate this so bad for Tua why didn't they keep him out of this one game someone needs to pay for this prayers for Tua you will always be one of our Bama boys in my heart I just hope he can overcome this an has no permanent injuries prayers for speedy recovery and that all goes well for Tua
Just thinking about the protocols in the other collision sports . In rugby league the NRL has doctors in their replay bunker and they can request footage and ask for the player to be pulled . Tua on Sunday would have been deemed a category 1 concussion and he would have been pulled out and minimum 14 days out
Their protocols have been tested too
This season in the NRL they have had some brutal games . State of Origin game 3 had 3 knocked out in the first 3 minutes and I lost count in the Rabbitohs Roosters game how many players failed the concussion test
Roger Goodell just released a statement:
"I can't HEAR you, I'm counting the billion dollars Amazon Prime paid me. Er, um... us..."
Due to the media constantly trashing Tua, he wanted to prove to everyone he has what it takes to be a successful QB in the NFL
While Adam is correct about what he says about the concussion protocol he doesn't mention the provision that introduces subjectivity into the analysis and could lead to situations like we saw on Sunday (assuming there was no intentional cover up of Tua's concussion). Adam correctly mentions that gross mobile instability is one of the "no-go" signs that require a player to be removed from the game. However, it is only a "no-go" sign of a concussion if the medical professionals can rule out some orthopedic cause for the gross mobile instability. For example. if a player is wobbling around maybe it's a concussion but if you also can tell his leg is broken or there's a disc in his back that's probably bothering him then that gross mobile instability is not considered a "no-go" sign of a concussion.
This is fine in theory. But it involves some degree of subjectivity and that's the problem. I think the medical staff on the Dolphin's and the independent neuroconsultant relied on this provision to clear Tua to play again. So I think the public needs to hear from them and ask them to explain what other mechanism of action they thought could be causing Tua's gross mobile instability. They need to expound on that more than just saying "lower back injury", we need to know what kind of injury exactly did they suspect could cause such obvious mobile instability in Tua. I'm no doctor, but I've heard many sports doctors say they can't see how a back injury could explain the way Tua was acting that day. If the medical staff cant come up with a competent answer, then either they were grossly incompetent or they intentionally were covering up a concussion.
Furthermore, the protocol should be changed to remove this subjective provision. It should be that if a player is involved in a play that could obviously lead to a concussion (head impact, neck whiplash etc.) and they have gross mobile instability that should just be considered a "no-go" sign and the player should be removed from the game. No need to rule out other orthopedic causes, just err on the side of caution and consider that he likely has a concussion. Yes, this way it would lead to many non-concussed players being benched inappropriately but I think that is more preferable than potentially allowing a concussed player to return to the game and play again the following week.
The sad part we won't know how much of an impact and damage it got until later on. One year, 10 years, 50 years from now we'll see this point as the reason for it.
So now Shefty is saying that because they saw the injury on the field that both the team AND independent doctor don't know what they are doing. It looks bad all around but if he passed the guidelines on Sunday then he passed them. Perhaps there may need to be enhancements to the guidelines but they are all medical based.
Correct take. So much of what Shefter says is misinforming.
where was this energy after Sunday? Media must do better to question things and speak up.
Why would every team have different health/ injury standards?
get well Tua.
These players need to take some ownership and protect themselves. And it needs to be backed by other players when they do. Don't come out and say he's not for his team or he's not sacrificing for them.
Why didn't Roger say something last night? He was at the game.
Adam always looks so serious lol baked
where I live the protocols, are is there's an independent doctor and will pull someone if they believe the player suffered a concussion (if not pulled up by the trainer), he's evaluated and determine the grade, if it's a higher grade then he's automatically stopped from playing, and a lower grade he then goes takes a concussion test to determine whether he can. maybe something like that needs to be brought
Look at it as two separate events:
Sunday: for better or worst it was reported as a lower back and ankle injury (he played the 2nd half and won the game...)
Thursday night event: QB (slammed, rag-dolled, pile-driven to a "cement" turf in a plastic hat. (when you watch the hit to the turf at regular speed, you can feel the impact [slow-mo takes the severity of the blow away])... I would say if anyone was 100% healthy before this one slam, they would not be after...(Sunday or No Sunday)
Pure negligence
How?
I smell a lot of Pink slips for medical staff. He shouldn’t have played.
I have got the wind knocked out me stood up dropped by to knees and shock my head till can catch breath left for 2 plays and came back so it’s possible he didn’t have a concussion but shortness of breath plus shook his head from being rattled. Everyone done hit they head some type of way and shook it. It’s a natural instinct
Players are grown men.
Ask a QB in the 80’s if they’re playing through a concussion.
Not saying it’s right or wrong…Just the fact that players are going to do what’s best for them and their pockets.
Schefty was right. Why don't they allow the medical consultant to view the replay of the injury/incident to get a better gauge of what happened? I mean, instant replay has been around for a while, and so have iPads/Surface tablets & high speed internet.
Tua is the only one who can hold himself out of an NFL game. These aren’t kids, they are all grown men who know the risk of the sport, concussions and CTE.
That’s false. The coaching staff can and should have kept Tua out. Players need to be protected from themselves.
Now the Dolphins as well as the NFL are in a PR nightmare
I have been a Dolphin fan my whole life and all biase aside, I was very worried and skeptical that he came back in the game to play last week. Tua winning is not worth a life long injury brotha! Dolphins……..get it together. 🤦
This could be a good thing if they really get down and upgrade concussion care in the NFL and all of football.
You never wanna see a player throw up gang signs after being tackled. Hopefully Tua is ok, hopefully the NFL learns from this
SCHEFTER WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT COMMISSIONER...😁
The dolphins organization has lost all my respect. They screwed up big time and need to be investigated. Idc how long it takes, do it. It’s worth it to ensure this doesn’t happen again. Prayers for Tua 🙏
The 25 year old you will not listen to the 45 year old you. That's not an NFL problem. That's life. Regardless, Miami messed up and allowed Tua to play after the CLEAR head injury on Sunday. They are liable and should be held accountable. Everyone and their mom knows Sunday wasn't a "back" injury. Come on with that BS lie.
This nurse was like that was a head injury on Sunday and last night left me disgusted!!!
The fact that the ppl I truly cant stand have great takes on Tua and the ones I watch the most are having the worst takes protecting the NFL Shield. Its like I crossed into some weird dimension. Everybody failed Tua and the fact ex NFL players are pointing this out should speak volumes.
He got his brain scrambled last week and they're not gonna tell me he didn't again this week. Depending on severity, you can pass a concussion test while having a concussion.
Happy today that Tua is walking. This young man should not have been on the field Thursday. NFL needs to stop playing on Thursday night.
If it was Tom Brady this wouldn't have happened. Tell me I'm lying
Yeah cause Tom has pass protection and when they try to sack him he just collapses himself
You lying, if Brady wants in he's going in... besides the NFL protects him
Brady just falls down when a sack is even close. He preserves his body at his older age now
Brady would have not allowed the team to compromise his safety. Neither would his wife.
Brady is playing football…at 45. I think it’s safe to say he would’ve probably played last night.
His injury is tragic, yes, but this injury had a specific driver -- the violent tackle -- and I'm not sure how last week's injury plays into this. I would think that there would need to be a direct link between last week's injury and last night's injury to make this connection. I guess playing Monday morning Neurologist is similar to playing Monday morning QB. Maybe there was a link, I SURELY don't know; but I fail to see how all these talking heads know. Everyone always seems to be looking for something to rage about. Maybe this was just an awkward tackle and has nothing to do with last week, eh?
Crashing into grown men with Weaponized helmets is probably not the smartest thing to do with the human body. Period. We’ve been programmed to love it.
Why does everyone say “played 5 days later” simple math. Sunday - Thursday is 4 days, but not 5. More to point that’s being made.
Good stuff Shefty. We all agree. You have the platform, thanks for using it.
Boy I have never ever heard Adam this pissed before in my life. Shame on the NFL and Miami dolphins.
Ninkovitch made 100% sense
It’s stupid that while a medical investigation is going on the player that’s being investigated gets to hit the field. The NFL should suspend the player (Non-Disciplinary) till the investigation is finished and if corrective measures are taken, then it should hold everyone accountable, including the player if he lied about his status.
So everybody blaming everyone but Tua. He knew better himself.
I'm sorry but the number one man that is responsible for the injuries is Tua himself. You know yourself the best when it comes to whether or not you can play or if you're 100% ready to go. Being there for your team and having that competitive drive is excellent, but when you're stubborn enough to reassure and call your coach at 11:00 pm saying "I'm fine play me" this is squarely on you. Sure the medical staff is also to blame for missing the concussion diagnosis, but again you had an independent concussion evaluator and NFL's strict concussion protocol which was all cleared. If I was Tua I would not play another game in the NFL. A load of talent but the body just can't handle the league. There's no shame in that, if you love the game work your way up to becoming or coach or analyst.
Yeah in the end ... these dudes have all the rights in the world to vent... and Goodell better figure out a way to make this right... because this is the number 1 issue in the NFL... and the press won't let it go... and honestly they shouldn't.
How are the interviews scheduled to begin today? After the second one? And you know if shifty shefty is calling out the two wbo signed off, they're most likely going to be the fall guys even tho that was their jobs but you can't tell me they weren't under some extreme pressure to get that man back on the field.
he shake his head when he got up last week n he stumble when he walk last week n i don’t understand why they didn’t it’s a concussion
It's not a concussion.
This is a spinal/ vertebrae issue.
Pinching nerves, most likely.
These independent neurologists need to be employed by the league and used on rotations so that they are not with the same team every week.
The cowboys needs to take notes
Sunday was okay but why play him on a short week
What action? Tua lied the doctors lied. The Dolphins lied. People throwing shade at the NFL aren't brave enough to call those people.