You guys are great, both of you. AvE shows us the innards, PF runs the tests. Between you two you've probably saved me hundreds of dollhairs and a few headaches from buying the wrong product. So thank you both!
Yeah i love it. Anybody who is mature enough to fully understand and spread "different strokes for different folks" is my kind of guy. Spread positivity not bullshit.
Bought a FEIN four speed drill. So far great unit. Love the electronic clutch. When the batteries crap out, i fear that i may have to sell the neighbours pressure washer to replace them.
You said it, based on usage. As a strictly home DIYer I've had no issues with my Ryobi collection of tools and batteries. I don't toss them around and don't baby them either. I also frequent HD and usually find what I need. I just don't go there expecting employees to provide any help. Very few know the difference between a tube of sealant and tube of adhesive.
When i was building my workshop i learned a Milwaukee battery pack will survive being thrown down agrily from a 2-storey roof at the gravel down bellow in a fit of rage. good to know they can survive me!
Had a friend the other day at work borrowed my Milwaukee impact and accidentally left it under a mercedes sprinter and when he let it off the jack it sat one side of the sprinter down on the impact which after taking it out it was holding the body up about 3 inches from normal ride height but so far about a week later she's still choochin at full speed pretty damn tough tools
I've dropped no end of makita tools from great heights in the past, never any issues. Until I splurge on a top of the line impact driver and it breaks the first little drop...only good thing is a new housing was only $17 AUD
Can confirm, have had my Hilti tools for 8 years now, use them week in week out and have only ever had one small issue with the 1/4” drive on my impact driver 6 years in which was fixed free of charge. I capacity tested a pack recently and still had 90% left after 8 years!!!
Im using my Makita everyday for drilling into concrete. For the last 5 years. In winter and summer. 18V 3Ah are still in great shape, just a little bit slow in winter. This year I bought two new ones for 100€. The only thing that broke is switch.
When I first started in construction I was handed a bosch drill, liked the way it felt on my hand, liked the performance. Ever since then, I have had no problems with the brand, the tools do what I need them to do when I need them to do it, I have not been left "stranded" by them. Thus I see no need to change, my humble opinion is that you pick one brand and stick to it and forget about what, who is best because if you go that rout. . . . . there is always someone/thing better out there.
I’ve had a hilti cordless hammer drill for 7 years now, picked it up at Home Dopey while I worked there. They were getting rid of all the hilti stuff so i got it for about the price of a Milwaukee version. Today the batts are still good, though i could tell they don’t hold as good a charge. But i beat them up, one took 120 volts, I accidentally drilled through a switch loop, it took a while to recharge but it finally did. Recently picked up some new 22v ones for 36 bucks each!! They are discontinuing the 22v ones and i was lucky enough to stop by at the right time to pick up the last three at that location. It’s like Christmas came early lol
I'll say one thing, I still have some Milwaukee batteries from my first drill I bought about 15 years ago, they have been through hell, I'm a landscape contractor in rainy England! This things are in the mud and water almost on a daily basis. Sure they are a bit tired but very impressed with that!!
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Unpopular comment: I use the "X20V Team" line of tools from Lidl here in Spain and I couldn't be happier. They're way more than enough for an advanced user like me (more than beginner, just not fully "professional"). I do several repairs a week on my own to win some extra cash and these tools are tough as sh*t. Their batteries last quite a lot, they're affordable and they feel pretty well built (they sure are heavy). Nothing to envy to the bigger brands, and more than perfect for a handyman like me. Considering they're in many cases a fifth of the price, I think they're a brand to consider for those who like to do some work around the house.
I've had a Hilti cordless hammer drill for decades. Yeah, you read that right: decades. Replaced batteries once. Used it in rock-climbing, drilling granite. GOOD stuff! Pricey, but you get what you pay for.
LoneWolfSparty higher quality. More useful tools in the catalog. I’ve had my makita impact driver for 8 years and it still works great but the drill I’ve replaced 4 times in that same 8 years.
@@CoSignSignCo In my experience it's usually the chucks on the Makita drills that go out. Not sure why, but they're weak. Problem with milwaukee is they make some cheezzzee tools for big box stores. You have to make sure you're not getting one of those, but they're definitely innovating faster than the Teal Turtle.
I have never had an older Makita last longer than a few years, but the voltage issue has been resolved in the new "B" series Makita batteries that have been out almost 2 years now. Never had a B series Makita die on me.
@@biguprochester well, i have makita batteries from 2013 that have been used nearly every single day with the drill driver kit they came with. Still work fine to this day.
@@MrJKCampione I've still got 20+ year old Makita NiCd batteries that hold a charge. Not nearly as much power density, but sometimes, all you need is a single hole.
I positively LOVE both channels - Project Farm and AvE. I think of AvE as the surgeon/internal medicine doctor. Cuts the patients open, analyzes the internals, sews them back up, and sends them back to work with a "skookum/nofa king good" notice. Project Farm is the Physical Therapist who T&Es the tools from a user's perspective to determine which gives the best performance for the $$. I would LOOOVE to see some collaboration videos.
I was in the alarm industry for 40 years and when recharge drills came out I was in heaven. In the last 10 years I was in the business we only used Dewalt....very few problem, especially with the batteries.
There is a lot of ppl out there taking crap apart and breaking it and sometimes they get it back together but your by far the most knowledgeable person iv seen in years like oh this chip this this plastic this this metal this battery is this like jeez all of the things I didn't know I wanted to know
@@JML1987 The first generation Makita batteries got a bad reputation because they didn't have thermal protection and because the BMS board ran off one cell, so they could get discharged to far if left unused for a while. This was remedied with their star-batteries a long time ago. Some of their non-star batteries were left compatible with certain tools (with a notch in the battery socket), but could still be used on lower consumption tools. Most tool brands had some issues when they first went over to lithium. Milwaukee transitioned away from their V28 platform. Also DeWalts 28V and 36V series early lithium were abandoned.
both have great content, Mr Bumblefuck i think has more knowledge of the internals and the manufacturing where project farm takes the time to test the consumables .. really a win win for us viewers
I hear if you join Uncle Bumblefuck's patreon he'll call you whatever you like. Top tier patrons even get to see his treat especiale! EDIT: Oops, I got his Patreon and his OnlyFans switched around.
This channel is keeping me sane down here in the States..... If I only knew where this Prince amongst Men lives...I would prostrate myself in deference to makest myself worthy to learn at his feet
My business used Makita tools until all of the batteries started self-destructing simultaneously. Was a real headache. We've had no such problems since switching all the guys to Milwaukee tools and the oldest batteries are now older than the Makitas were.
I appreciate the opinion thus shared, longevity is important. I will keep in mind all that has been learned. Also thanks for not having any form of ads in this video.
Years ago when I began construction/landscaping I went 28 volt Milwaukee. Went to crap immediately and still resent Milwaukee for it. I want my money back! I’ve got nothing but Dewalts now. I’ve got about 40 batteries. Many are years old and never lost a battery other than dropping them and breaking. Milwaukee has a more resilient housing. The problem with Hilti is you’re immediately in debt and once your buddy steals them you’ve lost your business and house.
Milwaukee put the vent holes on the bottom of the battery. If you stand your drill up in a 1/4 inch puddle you'll fry a few cells or if your lucky just drain them. It happened to me a few weeks ago but individually charging the pair of cells back up got it working again.
Moved to Milwaukee from snap off at the shop because the batteries may be better built but I can treat them as a consumable and not have to mortgage the boat. L
I don't know how much their little flyers they give to me each week cost but assuming a few cents a week for 20 years I figure I've thrown about 30 bucks directly in the trash. My favorite Matco guy would ask if I wanted him to throw it away for me. No kidding
The most important video production in the history of video production. Down here in the colony from hell the Hilti is not an option. Just when we think COVID has fucked us enough we get this sermon from the mount. Thanks a bunch.
I have DeWaukee and I got to say they both rock! Haven't had any issues with my flexvolt batteries and they had an amazing idea that functions like a Rockstar. Ps. Just because something has more ways to break doesn't nessarily mean it's gonna be junk right off the hob! But I'm with u on that theory!
Iv got a pile of dead Snap-on Ni-Cad and older lithiums but the current style has not given me any problems in the last 5 years and all of my Milwaukee’s still work as well 👌🏼
I have 2 dewalt 20v 6ah batteries i run them with the 20v max flathead brushless grinder! I also have the fast charger so far i had no down time between changes! I say so far great batteries.
Yeah I like how he doesn't even acknowledge the 20v I've been using them for years when they first came out I got one and it seemed to have the same problem as the makita but I assume that they fixed it within the first two years because I never had that problem again
not gonna speak in skookum lingo, but our robotics team uses Milwaukee tools, and let me tell you, after 7 *hard* years of beating around our drills and saws, the milwaukee batteries and tools have held up to everything we throw at it, including when we throw them literally. Very durable, and worth your money.
Seems doable, though durability would take a hit with the adapter. Whether it’s 3D printed or CNC’d titanium, it’s another wear point, another set of contacts / wires (maybe circuits depending on any confusers needing to be faked, etc). I bet someone clever could make a nice one.
The adapteroonie I want is a plug in transformer/rectifier that gives you the option to temporarily plug your cordless tools into the house and run them.
I saw such an adapter on ebay. But it's expensive. The main issue is making terminals for the Hilti battery. You can buy the Makita terminal for cheap but not the Hilti one.
I worked 3 years as a millwright in extreme heat and cold. Company provided Milwaukees, I got tired of sharing them so I added to my then small dewalt arsenal. I have 8 flexvolt batteries. Not one has shit the bed, save for when one of my 60v grinders fucked up and shorted out two of the batteries. I have rode them hard, stored them hot and cold and have had no issues. Milwaukee batteries will operate in lower temps than my flexvolts, however we had Milwaukee batteries dropping like flies all the time, even the ones I carried in my truck and cared for. In my experience, the Milwaukee batteries left a LOT to be desired.
If you watch PF, you will learn WHAT to use and WHY you would want (or not) to use a certain product. On the other hand AvE shows you HOW things are made. Ive been watching both channels regularly. I feel between the two you really get a sense of whats good and whats absolutely garbage. And i know that AvE wants to take the Farmabago for a rip! Keep up the good work gentlemen.🍻
Never had a problem with makita batteries. I've used the shit out of many a tool. I live in Alaska, think +95 to -50... Mixed bag with all of em, but makita is my favorite.
Solid bias free overview. I don't have any sort of brand allegiance, so its always overwhelming when trying to pick a system to go with. This helps a lot.
Bought a bunch of Bauer tools and 4 batteries at Harbor Freight when I started building my house. Surprisingly they're still working fine and I'm almost ready to move in. Impact drive will twist the heads off 5/16 lag bolts in oak.
Good video and I really like the project farm stuff as well that guy has saved me hundreds if not thousands At the end of the day I’m a DIYer and to be honest I avoid cordless I do have drills and an impact that are cordless - real common stuff - but that’s it.... I’ve got corded Sanders and drills and angle grinders that I’ve had for 20 years still work perfectly if they were battery operated the cells would’ve leaked or gone for stale by now they would’ve changed the model then you can’t get the batteries any more I would’ve lost the charger and you can’t buy them any more something stupid plus corded will put out power all day long and as a DIYer it’s not much of a hassle to run a cord But if you’re in the trade in an out of the Ute all day up the ladder back in the Ute onto the next job cordless is fine because now you have a business case the tools are tax-deductible and in five years they’re buggered anyway because you’re using them every day that’s fine but I don’t believe cordless is good for DIYers and it’s a shame to see manufacturers seem to be shifting away from corded and battery operated stuff is all that you gonna be able to get soon......
Hilti has a newer line of 12 volt tools to try and eliminate the problem of having massive batteries. Would be worth investigating. What about 20V only Dewalt batteries? They're like half the price of the 20/60V ones.
I'm in Dewalt and so far the 4ah and 5ah cases are way to weak. I've got two with epoxy on them to keep them going. The smaller cases and the 60v cases are holding up fine. I am avoiding the 4 and 5's now. The only dead ones I have are from a returns place where I got the little batteries with the tools and since I got the tools at half price I didn't care the batteries were beat dead.
Never had a problem.with the regular 20v dewalts, however just holding them in your hand along side a Milwaukee and they just feel inferior. Have a good selection of both bands, but ive definitely steered more towards Milwaukee over the last year. Just like the way they fit my hand better, guess i have the same size hands as the testers in the Milwaukee lab lll
I myself am a Makita guy. Have always had good luck with them. Tools, n batteries. I do wish there was a way to eliminate that cut off, that stops them from charging. Since I retired, I don't use my tools as much, being in the Dewclaw line of work. Some off my batteries are 5, 6 years old, and still hold a charge very well. Even there shelf life is still very good. Have tried to stop using them at the first sign of power dropping off, let cool off then into the charger. Thanks for the vijeo as always. In my book, you will always be at the top of the list.
You can replace the BMS board with a chinese one for like $5, but it won't have the same level of protection as the original. The reason they don't allow charging is because charging an over-discharged battery can be dangerous.
I am probably wrong but I was under the impression that Makita resolved the battery low voltage = death issue when the 'b' series batteries were released two or so years ago? Out of 5 batteries I've never had a failure and just recently threw out my original batteries (non-b) since they were OLD and well used.
@@djosbun this is my understanding as well, although it was from a rep at a tool show, however I have never had a B battery die but I have had many older versions stop working when run too hot for too long. So my experience does match what I heard from the tool rep.
@@MrJKCampione they fixed it with the batteries marked with a star. Since then (including b models) they've always had balance charging and monitoring.
@@djosbun Could have changed the cells, unless you don't care to bother. And no they still brick themselves after three "errors". The aftermarket boards are sketchy but work, just have to classify each cell and change out bad ones.
@@djosbun, I have 30 plus makita batteries and I work them hard, I agree, the newer ones don’t have the issues the original ones did. I just got rid of the old ones, less hassles and never have problems now
I love watching Todd over at Project Farm. I can watch his videos with the kids... they might get bored, but family friendly for sure. He provides data points... In a world where 95% tool channels are blatant shills, Todd's a refreshing, wholesome source of decent data.
Duffman15000 I feel like AVE kinda sidestepped dewalt here in that he put their most cutting edge platform on display rather than their more common, something like the XR or max platform. I wonder if he feels the same about those considering they don’t have the switching for the 20/60.
Agreed !! Hilti, through my experience, has the best battery and gives me loads of run time. Their reliability is only outdone by Hilti’s warranty and service programs. The Hilti Montreal service depot is simply amazing. They had my back through the height of Covid and I thank them. So, the best battery is also the best supported
Best is so subjective. How often is it used, what’s its used for, what’s the conditions it’s used in hot/cold or wet/dry climate ect. While I agree that Milwaukee batteries are more stout in build quality than the dewalt, I’ve got dewalts that are still working fine after 5-6 years. Only had Milwaukee for a few years but I’d bet they’ll last that long too, I keep good care of my tools because I need them to work when I need them to work.
I've had several Milwaukee batteries that failed because the solder connections on the batteries failed. The guys at work were hard on them. The Milwaukee lithium batteries had to be kept warm to work. They didn't work at -10 F and it's not fun to put a battery close to your body to heat it up enough to work.
Best is the cheapest. Because they all die after a few weeks in salt water so whats the point of spending more. Although the other guy at work thinks the best is the one at the tool shop that gives points. Because if were spending a few grand a year on batteries he might as well get the points.
I have had 2 milwaukee 5ah batteries i have used as a professional installer since 2016. Still using them today. Have not had any battery issues at all. Other than losing one.....
Milwaukee batteries don’t hold up in the automotive field. The cases crack, rattle right off the impact wrench. How ironic, they have introduced anti vibration mounting to the new 1”gun. Yea...
interesting that they didn't think of that before. My makita 1/2" has vibration dampening between the handle and battery. Never had an issue with my 5amp battery
Ive had m18 tools for about 8 years, i beat my cordless stuff hard (industrial machine repair/millright) I've only had 2 batteries crack on my and both were accidentally dropped from a hight greater than 15ft. Tools still worked and so did the batteries after some superglue lol
I agree. I'm in the heavy equipment repair field and we run Milwaukee cordless impacts (3/8", 1/2", 3/4" and 1"). I've seen us replace about 50 of the batteries in the last 2 years. Even had a brand new case show up and most of them wouldn't even work. They make great tools, but their batteries don't seem to hold up.
Our diesel mechanics where I work all have the best 1/2" Milwaukee M18 guns, and they all have loose AF batteries where you either have to hold the batter in place to make proper contact, or use a zip tie to cinch it to the gun.
I dunno man, we used the 1/2" impacts building grain dryers,12 hours a day at with near constant use and it almost seemed that the batteries outlasted the tool, I only remember once or twice a battery crapped out but we went through those impacts like fairly regularly
I can speak for the build quality of the Hilti battery’s. I dropped my impact driver 21ft from a ridge of a building and all it did was split the rubber on the battery a little bit.
We've had fewer issues with the Dewalt Flex Volt (6AH & 9AH) than the Milwaukee batteries ... Absolutely nothing against Milwaukee this is just our experience (framing company, the tools get used hard).
I have had very good luck with Ryobi. Got stuck into the ecosystem on a few killer deals at Home Depot. From their chainsaws, weed trimmers, circular saw, drills, garage door opener, grease gun, impacts. I have around 28 one+ tools (Not becuase I think they are the best, but it's nice to have one battery type for everything). While I am not a professional carpenter, mechanic, or landscaper I have built sheds, house additions, average remodeling, normal yard maintenance and have built a few project vehicles. Even the craptastic 1.5 AH or 2 AH included with some of the tools are still working fine after 6-8 years (however they were not even good when new).
I have had good luck with cryobi for my hard earned kopecks they have served me well I am a residential maintenance technician love your vedjeos definitely the best on the web
After I tortured my Milwaukee drills for the first years of my career.. I can never buy another cordless brand other than Milwaukee. I'm still to this day impressed when I think back at how rough I was on those drills that they survived.
I would too. I've had three fail, all replaced under warranty with no issues. I think the first two failed due to being hooked up to a drill with a faulty circuit board that also got replaced. The third? Not sure.
Been using the Milwaukee m18s for a good 5 years now.... Absolutely zero complaints. Great batteries and tons of tools to use them on. Glad to see the shout-out to project farm, he does great work.
Been a makita user for over 5 years without issues. Not trying to contrarian to our Canadian brother but I have had good use from them. Like he said, the best power tool is the one that works best for YOU.
We use all dewalt batteries in my company. All of the 60v have been great. We did have a 20v that had a little meltdown while plugged into the dewalt flashlight. Otherwise, be beat the ever living shit out of them, they get wet and what not. We're plumbers.
Been using DeWalt for 15 years now in general construction and if there's a problem with the batteries I've never noticed it. I've had a couple Makita batteries get weak over the years but the DeWalts keep on going.
I've been using DeFault cordless for 20 yrs w/ not an issue other than worn out cells after hundreds of charges. And I too am am a Plumber, or as a 3 affectionately calls us, "Turd Herder".
Must be all the stale piss and jizzy hairballs keep the dust washed out of you guy's tools (bless you for literally doing the shit jobs). I wouldn't know if DeFault batteries are good because the tools always take a shit within 6 months. Gave up on them and went to the red side, had much better luck. All the plumbers I know seem like good dudes, but I gotta wonder about fellas who volunteer to fish around in somebody else's shit...
Carpenter here and all we use is Dewalt. Got some old brushed impacts and drills with the old slim 20v max's. Our impacts get so abused they become to hot to hold and always smell like electrical fire. Been knocked off decks and a couple roofs. The old 20v max slims are junk, and only hold 5 min of battery life, but hey, they're still kickin' and don't cost a dime.
Best buy for any workshop is a long and strong power extender cable. Cordless tools look nice and handy but most times you don't really need something that mobile and they all cost a lot more than the standard (plugged) equivalent. Batteries will always let you down when you need them most and for the amount you'd pay for a decent consumer grade cordless you can often buy a professional grade plugged-in tool that will work every time and last a lot longer.
Hey Bubba, both of my original Makita combo kit batteries died within a couple hours of each other, about 2 years after purchase. It might have been what I was doing with them, I was tapping 1/2-13 holes, in 1 inch thick hot rolled steel plate. Not all the way through, i had tapped them in a HAAS, to Z-.700, tap drilled to Z-.950, so i wouldn't drill into the top of the vises. I finished tap drilling .421 dia with the Makita 18V, the i ground 3 flats on a 1/2-13 plug tap, and tapped them through with the Makita. I had 144 holes to thread, i got to about 130, when the first battery gave up, the second battery I had to keep charging about every 3-4 holes and it made it to the end. Died right after, i bought a cheesy Chinese 5.0amp/hour for $32, and 2 years later it still holds a good charge. It was worth $32.
You didn't test metobo or fien which considering the price i would assume would be very scookum but i don't really know because I'm to cheap to buy them
Unfortunately, Metabo is dead. Hitachi/Hikoki purchased them not long ago. I believe the corded tools, like their legendary grinders are still genuine Metabo, but anything cordless or labeled "Metabo HPT" is actually a Hikoki (a subsidiary of Hitachi). These aren't bad tools at all, but they certainly aren't up to the standard associated with the Metabo name.
@@gasfiltered i thought metobo and metobo hpt are to different brands metobo still same and metobo hpt formerly Hitachi was rebranded but i could be wrong
That's when you call their tech line and ask where to send them. My 9.0 got melted by the heater, latches don't work cause I had to cut the battery out of the super hawg. Can see the nickel strips and the charge indicator is gone. Still runs the vacuum, and gave me an excuse to grab a 12.0 for the hawg.
@@airtothewick don't need a receipt. As long as in warranty period from manufacture then you good. Give them a call today they help you out. Alwats had great luck with them
Nice of you to say somthing nice towards project farm. you hit the nail on the head with his personality. Thanks for being kind. Between you two guys it gives me hours of entertainment, I must say though I do really injoy your video and humor. And still to this day I use tip on indicating parts in the CNC. It save me so much money on them fancy red tip indicators. And gives the frends a real good laugh . All around though the years it has been enjoyable viewing Thanks!
Love AvE, but I dont have a clue how the hell he arrived at his conclusion here, there is no way he watched this same review video. According to Project Farm, Dewalt is clearly superior in every test excluding drop durability. Been in USAF aircraft maintenance for 20 years, and most of the shops at most of the bases I have been to use Dewalt power tools due to the tools durability. Can't tell you how many times I have seen a Dewalt power drill fall off a maintenance stand 20-30 feet in the air, hit concrete, and still operate. (I'm not exaggerating either) and the batteries chooch for a good long time when you are drilling out dozens of stuck fasteners in all kinds of weather. Edit: autocorrect replaced "chooch"
The Dewalt won by sacrificing battery longevity for short term performance. The faster the charge time, the shorter the battery life. The higher the charge voltage, the shorter the battery life. The lower the voltage cutoff, the shorter the battery life. Dewalt batteries are renowned for dying out faster than other brands for that fundamental reason. As for performance, that's more of a matter of how efficient the tool is more than whether or not the battery is made to last 6 or 8 years.
Ran a Shat-On Cordless Impact Driver for years, threw it around, dropped it, recharged it regularly, it never let me down, replaced the battery after about two/two and half years once it couldn’t do a days work and she’s chooching along quite happily. Thankfully my tools were paid for by my company and so long as I could make a case for a particular bit of kit then I’d just hop on the truck of shiny accoutrements and collect whatever I needed. Contrast that to my home gamer Bosch drill, it’s had irregular use over about five years and the battery can barely hold a charge and it gives up after drilling a few holes, I’m unwilling to replace the batteries as it’s not been a reliable drill. It’s on my Christmas list, let’s hope Santa hasn’t seen my behaviour behind the bike sheds with the Mrs.....
I bought my first Hilti grinder from Home Depot close to 15 years ago I guess. I haven't seen them there since then, but it got me hooked on Hilti. I've bought other brands since then but as far as corded angle grinders go no one makes one that can compete with Hilti.
Anyone here beside me a fan of Ridgid cordless tools? I've used a variety in my life, but Ridgid are the only ones I use any more. Only battery packs I've had that outlasted the charger, and they're all 18V. Great tools, too.
Excellent video and great constructive feedback on long-term performance testing! Best regards, Todd
Who the hell is up this early?!
You guys are great, both of you. AvE shows us the innards, PF runs the tests. Between you two you've probably saved me hundreds of dollhairs and a few headaches from buying the wrong product. So thank you both!
@@arduinoversusevil2025 All of Europe pretty much
So great to see a couple of my favorite garage gremlins brought together for the sake of some Sapien tool philosophy.
@@arduinoversusevil2025 don't sleep merch from @tommyfyeah
I just thought you'd like to know that "skookum choocher" is now a part of my work lingo at NASA... and it's catching on.
spread the disease
Canadian diction is on course to the ISS
Schmoo is every day lingo at RAF (Royal Air Force) Waddington too 😂
To Mars and beyond!
There's a Skookum brewery out West and a brewery in New Mexico called Second Street that makes a Skookum barley wine style ale.
Best battery = the one you just charged.
Lmao. True.
So funny because its true
Moreso...The one that hasn't yet vanished
Beat me to it 🍺
@licensetodrive What ever you say Megabyte!
pretty much just the cliffs notes on 1.5 years of boltrs
I had the 69th like on this comment. I just wanted everyone to know that
@@ZackJenkins legend ;)
@@ZackJenkins is 6969 also your phone and or debit PIN?
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Nice
Yeah i love it. Anybody who is mature enough to fully understand and spread "different strokes for different folks" is my kind of guy. Spread positivity not bullshit.
"and well ofcourse im a private dancer for the patrons" ahhh this guy kills me lmao
Service rep doesn't come around cause then the service rep would have to do his job.
Lmao. True.
here businesses rent hilti directly from them and get instant replacements if something fails, but i guess that's not the prosumers choice
Never had any issue with Hilti guys go above and beyond to make their customers happy, actually. :)
Service rep only calls after sales rep gets ragged on.
Service rep only calls after sales rep gets ragged on.
Bought a FEIN four speed drill. So far great unit. Love the electronic clutch. When the batteries crap out, i fear that i may have to sell the neighbours pressure washer to replace them.
Yeah, and I've seen a fein cordless in a few AvE videos, but I don't think he's torn it apart yet...
That was a great comment, made my night. Thanks.
*”warsher”
@@GeneralPoison He did but the video was disappeared. I remember he liked the chuck especially.
@@jerryjantola what? Are you sure? I've been waiting for that video forever!
Cool shout out to Project Farm, good guy helping people out. Thanks for the heads up in the batterias.
The best tool battery is the one that keeps my wife smiling
Dale Whalen double D’s
Nahhh, just one good "C"...
@@TStheDeplorable You too, huh?
For mine, it's the one that's rechargeable . But you gotta have two sets otherwise there is hell to pay
So 480v 4 phase?
You said it, based on usage. As a strictly home DIYer I've had no issues with my Ryobi collection of tools and batteries. I don't toss them around and don't baby them either. I also frequent HD and usually find what I need. I just don't go there expecting employees to provide any help. Very few know the difference between a tube of sealant and tube of adhesive.
I've been watching Project Farm forever. That dudes channel is great. Covers all the bases.
When i was building my workshop i learned a Milwaukee battery pack will survive being thrown down agrily from a 2-storey roof at the gravel down bellow in a fit of rage. good to know they can survive me!
Had a friend the other day at work borrowed my Milwaukee impact and accidentally left it under a mercedes sprinter and when he let it off the jack it sat one side of the sprinter down on the impact which after taking it out it was holding the body up about 3 inches from normal ride height but so far about a week later she's still choochin at full speed pretty damn tough tools
I've dropped no end of makita tools from great heights in the past, never any issues.
Until I splurge on a top of the line impact driver and it breaks the first little drop...only good thing is a new housing was only $17 AUD
"What is the best tool battery?" The one on the bench that still holds a charge.
Why is that one never the same brand as the tool I'm trying to plug it into though... damn
Can confirm, have had my Hilti tools for 8 years now, use them week in week out and have only ever had one small issue with the 1/4” drive on my impact driver 6 years in which was fixed free of charge. I capacity tested a pack recently and still had 90% left after 8 years!!!
When I saw it, I wondered if the Project Farm video piqued your interest enough. Now I know!
That came to mind immediately too
Good channel for sure
Same here
@@Elon_Trump AMEN
In and around the lake...
Im using my Makita everyday for drilling into concrete. For the last 5 years. In winter and summer. 18V 3Ah are still in great shape, just a little bit slow in winter. This year I bought two new ones for 100€. The only thing that broke is switch.
I’ve been running the same bosh battery in my impact for the past 3 years using it at least 3-4 times a week and it’s been a dream (knock on wood)
I agree completely. Those Hilti 5.2’s go and go. I’ve got 5 of them... 2 years in and still as new
When I first started in construction I was handed a bosch drill, liked the way it felt on my hand, liked the performance. Ever since then, I have had no problems with the brand, the tools do what I need them to do when I need them to do it, I have not been left "stranded" by them. Thus I see no need to change, my humble opinion is that you pick one brand and stick to it and forget about what, who is best because if you go that rout. . . . . there is always someone/thing better out there.
I’ve had a hilti cordless hammer drill for 7 years now, picked it up at Home Dopey while I worked there. They were getting rid of all the hilti stuff so i got it for about the price of a Milwaukee version.
Today the batts are still good, though i could tell they don’t hold as good a charge. But i beat them up, one took 120 volts, I accidentally drilled through a switch loop, it took a while to recharge but it finally did. Recently picked up some new 22v ones for 36 bucks each!! They are discontinuing the 22v ones and i was lucky enough to stop by at the right time to pick up the last three at that location. It’s like Christmas came early lol
I'll say one thing, I still have some Milwaukee batteries from my first drill I bought about 15 years ago, they have been through hell, I'm a landscape contractor in rainy England! This things are in the mud and water almost on a daily basis. Sure they are a bit tired but very impressed with that!!
Unpopular comment: I use the "X20V Team" line of tools from Lidl here in Spain and I couldn't be happier. They're way more than enough for an advanced user like me (more than beginner, just not fully "professional"). I do several repairs a week on my own to win some extra cash and these tools are tough as sh*t. Their batteries last quite a lot, they're affordable and they feel pretty well built (they sure are heavy). Nothing to envy to the bigger brands, and more than perfect for a handyman like me. Considering they're in many cases a fifth of the price, I think they're a brand to consider for those who like to do some work around the house.
“Define best”
*The goodest one*
The one with the least amount of bad.
The *_most_* goodest one.
A lot gooder than the baddest one, but not qiute as good as the Most Excellenter.
I've had a Hilti cordless hammer drill for decades. Yeah, you read that right: decades. Replaced batteries once. Used it in rock-climbing, drilling granite. GOOD stuff! Pricey, but you get what you pay for.
As a Makita owner I will always recommend Milwaukee tools.
Curious: why?
Even for grinders?
LoneWolfSparty higher quality. More useful tools in the catalog. I’ve had my makita impact driver for 8 years and it still works great but the drill I’ve replaced 4 times in that same 8 years.
Tim McCarthy we’re talking cordless.
@@CoSignSignCo In my experience it's usually the chucks on the Makita drills that go out. Not sure why, but they're weak. Problem with milwaukee is they make some cheezzzee tools for big box stores. You have to make sure you're not getting one of those, but they're definitely innovating faster than the Teal Turtle.
I have Makita LXT batteries from 2011 that still perform great.
pmgodfrey every once a year you hang a picture for your wife
I have never had an older Makita last longer than a few years, but the voltage issue has been resolved in the new "B" series Makita batteries that have been out almost 2 years now. Never had a B series Makita die on me.
@@biguprochester well, i have makita batteries from 2013 that have been used nearly every single day with the drill driver kit they came with. Still work fine to this day.
@@MrJKCampione I've still got 20+ year old Makita NiCd batteries that hold a charge. Not nearly as much power density, but sometimes, all you need is a single hole.
@@MrJKCampione how can i tell if my batteries are B series?
I positively LOVE both channels - Project Farm and AvE. I think of AvE as the surgeon/internal medicine doctor. Cuts the patients open, analyzes the internals, sews them back up, and sends them back to work with a "skookum/nofa king good" notice. Project Farm is the Physical Therapist who T&Es the tools from a user's perspective to determine which gives the best performance for the $$. I would LOOOVE to see some collaboration videos.
Gotta agree on the Hilti...have 2 tools with 2 batts, used em every week for 15yrs or more & still like new. Love em.
I love Project Farm videos, awesome channel.
One of the most usefull channels out there. Really enjoy his vids!
AMEN FER URE BOTH
I was in the alarm industry for 40 years and when recharge drills came out I was in heaven. In the last 10 years I was in the business we only used Dewalt....very few problem, especially with the batteries.
Imagine giving the conclusion in the thumbnail. One of the best channels on yt.
There is a lot of ppl out there taking crap apart and breaking it and sometimes they get it back together but your by far the most knowledgeable person iv seen in years like oh this chip this this plastic this this metal this battery is this like jeez all of the things I didn't know I wanted to know
I have 4 makita 18v batteries i got in 2010. They're still running great
Making me feel better about the 5 Makita tools I just bought.
@@JML1987 The first generation Makita batteries got a bad reputation because they didn't have thermal protection and because the BMS board ran off one cell, so they could get discharged to far if left unused for a while. This was remedied with their star-batteries a long time ago. Some of their non-star batteries were left compatible with certain tools (with a notch in the battery socket), but could still be used on lower consumption tools. Most tool brands had some issues when they first went over to lithium. Milwaukee transitioned away from their V28 platform. Also DeWalts 28V and 36V series early lithium were abandoned.
PF covered the electricals etc & Uncle BumbleFuck the build qualities & personal thoughts from use... damn we're lucky to have them!
Thanks AvE!
A+ on "The Homeless Despot". I've been calling them "Home Despot" for years, but now I can sound like an even saltier sailor.
*Homeless Deathspot
It's despot
A friend that’s married to a Korean woman calls them Hom E D Pot as she doesn’t understand why the “E” and “T” are silent.
Home cheapo here
I’ve been calling it The Homeless Despot for years...
Absolutely what I'd expected. Hilti for the shop and Milfaukee for home use
I do like his reviews, totally different animal to your reviews though, besides you always calling me gentlemen
both have great content, Mr Bumblefuck i think has more knowledge of the internals and the manufacturing where project farm takes the time to test the consumables .. really a win win for us viewers
He actually says "Gentlemens", ie all the others here...
@@dustinerickson1253 100% agreed! Between Project Farm and Uncle Bumble, I feel we have both the belt and suspenders to keep our trousers up!
I hear if you join Uncle Bumblefuck's patreon he'll call you whatever you like. Top tier patrons even get to see his treat especiale!
EDIT: Oops, I got his Patreon and his OnlyFans switched around.
He uses that term loosely at best.
This channel is keeping me sane down here in the States.....
If I only knew where this Prince amongst Men lives...I would prostrate myself in deference to makest myself worthy to learn at his feet
Explains why my makita batteries randomly give up the ghost...
german detected
My father’s makita batteries all shat it
My business used Makita tools until all of the batteries started self-destructing simultaneously. Was a real headache. We've had no such problems since switching all the guys to Milwaukee tools and the oldest batteries are now older than the Makitas were.
@@PraetorGames trying to drill into a beam that was giving us hard time. 3 Makita batteries give up the ghost and ended the job for the day.
And I finally got a good explanation why Makita batteries are so much cheaper than the M18 equivalents...
I appreciate the opinion thus shared, longevity is important. I will keep in mind all that has been learned. Also thanks for not having any form of ads in this video.
I've had some of my 3ah Makita batteries 13 years and they are still going. I don't give them hot suppers though.
Years ago when I began construction/landscaping I went 28 volt Milwaukee. Went to crap immediately and still resent Milwaukee for it. I want my money back! I’ve got nothing but Dewalts now. I’ve got about 40 batteries. Many are years old and never lost a battery other than dropping them and breaking. Milwaukee has a more resilient housing. The problem with Hilti is you’re immediately in debt and once your buddy steals them you’ve lost your business and house.
I'm with you on my limited experience with Hilti, I'm running a 24 Hilti drill with batteries from sometime prior to 2002, 3 batteries all good 👍
same hilti 150A with NiMh from 2001 still strong ish
@@mogelzz Same here Hilti used commercially daily 5 days a week for 20+ Years no lack of power or length of charge
@@DukeOfTwist I am sorry but that's a load of horse shit if you talking about the same battery over 20 years.
Milwaukee put the vent holes on the bottom of the battery. If you stand your drill up in a 1/4 inch puddle you'll fry a few cells or if your lucky just drain them. It happened to me a few weeks ago but individually charging the pair of cells back up got it working again.
Moved to Milwaukee from snap off at the shop because the batteries may be better built but I can treat them as a consumable and not have to mortgage the boat.
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I don't know how much their little flyers they give to me each week cost but assuming a few cents a week for 20 years I figure I've thrown about 30 bucks directly in the trash.
My favorite Matco guy would ask if I wanted him to throw it away for me. No kidding
The most important video production in the history of video production. Down here in the colony from hell the Hilti is not an option. Just when we think COVID has fucked us enough we get this sermon from the mount. Thanks a bunch.
I have DeWaukee and I got to say they both rock! Haven't had any issues with my flexvolt batteries and they had an amazing idea that functions like a Rockstar. Ps. Just because something has more ways to break doesn't nessarily mean it's gonna be junk right off the hob! But I'm with u on that theory!
Iv got a pile of dead Snap-on Ni-Cad and older lithiums but the current style has not given me any problems in the last 5 years and all of my Milwaukee’s still work as well 👌🏼
I have 2 dewalt 20v 6ah batteries i run them with the 20v max flathead brushless grinder! I also have the fast charger so far i had no down time between changes! I say so far great batteries.
Yeah I like how he doesn't even acknowledge the 20v I've been using them for years when they first came out I got one and it seemed to have the same problem as the makita but I assume that they fixed it within the first two years because I never had that problem again
not gonna speak in skookum lingo, but our robotics team uses Milwaukee tools, and let me tell you, after 7 *hard* years of beating around our drills and saws, the milwaukee batteries and tools have held up to everything we throw at it, including when we throw them literally. Very durable, and worth your money.
If someone could come up with a hilti -> Makita battery adapteroonie, then we'd be golden.
Seems doable, though durability would take a hit with the adapter. Whether it’s 3D printed or CNC’d titanium, it’s another wear point, another set of contacts / wires (maybe circuits depending on any confusers needing to be faked, etc). I bet someone clever could make a nice one.
The adapteroonie I want is a plug in transformer/rectifier that gives you the option to temporarily plug your cordless tools into the house and run them.
@@leeterthanyou plz throw that angry pixy convertor on thingiverse for free
I’ll drop a nice thingaverse tip for a converter.
I saw such an adapter on ebay. But it's expensive. The main issue is making terminals for the Hilti battery. You can buy the Makita terminal for cheap but not the Hilti one.
I worked 3 years as a millwright in extreme heat and cold. Company provided Milwaukees, I got tired of sharing them so I added to my then small dewalt arsenal. I have 8 flexvolt batteries. Not one has shit the bed, save for when one of my 60v grinders fucked up and shorted out two of the batteries. I have rode them hard, stored them hot and cold and have had no issues. Milwaukee batteries will operate in lower temps than my flexvolts, however we had Milwaukee batteries dropping like flies all the time, even the ones I carried in my truck and cared for. In my experience, the Milwaukee batteries left a LOT to be desired.
I was looking up the word “despot” (from hearing aVe saying “homeless despot”) and got the notification for this video while getting the joke.. lol
Hey he said it !
I hear 'death spot'
He's talking about Home Depot aka the homeless death spot
I agree. The posters above are saying they think he says despot.
I had to google that word...wow tho.
If you watch PF, you will learn WHAT to use and WHY you would want (or not) to use a certain product. On the other hand AvE shows you HOW things are made. Ive been watching both channels regularly. I feel between the two you really get a sense of whats good and whats absolutely garbage. And i know that AvE wants to take the Farmabago for a rip!
Keep up the good work gentlemen.🍻
Love PF, Love AvE! Thanks for your angle!
I use Hilti, Bosch, Makita and Würth tools at work, and i fully agree with your observations.
Have a nice day folks.
Never had a problem with makita batteries. I've used the shit out of many a tool. I live in Alaska, think +95 to -50...
Mixed bag with all of em, but makita is my favorite.
Solid bias free overview. I don't have any sort of brand allegiance, so its always overwhelming when trying to pick a system to go with. This helps a lot.
Tear-down suggestion: DJI drones/batteries.
Bought a bunch of Bauer tools and 4 batteries at Harbor Freight when I started building my house. Surprisingly they're still working fine and I'm almost ready to move in. Impact drive will twist the heads off 5/16 lag bolts in oak.
AA from energizer, keeps me from having to do much work, my missus is happy, and im not embarrassed.
Underrated
Good video and I really like the project farm stuff as well that guy has saved me hundreds if not thousands
At the end of the day I’m a DIYer and to be honest I avoid cordless
I do have drills and an impact that are cordless - real common stuff - but that’s it....
I’ve got corded Sanders and drills and angle grinders that I’ve had for 20 years still work perfectly if they were battery operated the cells would’ve leaked or gone for stale by now they would’ve changed the model then you can’t get the batteries any more I would’ve lost the charger and you can’t buy them any more something stupid
plus corded will put out power all day long and as a DIYer it’s not much of a hassle to run a cord
But if you’re in the trade in an out of the Ute all day up the ladder back in the Ute onto the next job cordless is fine because now you have a business case the tools are tax-deductible and in five years they’re buggered anyway because you’re using them every day that’s fine
but I don’t believe cordless is good for DIYers and it’s a shame to see manufacturers seem to be shifting away from corded and battery operated stuff is all that you gonna be able to get soon......
Hilti has a newer line of 12 volt tools to try and eliminate the problem of having massive batteries. Would be worth investigating.
What about 20V only Dewalt batteries? They're like half the price of the 20/60V ones.
I was about to ask as well.
I'm in Dewalt and so far the 4ah and 5ah cases are way to weak. I've got two with epoxy on them to keep them going. The smaller cases and the 60v cases are holding up fine. I am avoiding the 4 and 5's now. The only dead ones I have are from a returns place where I got the little batteries with the tools and since I got the tools at half price I didn't care the batteries were beat dead.
Never had a problem.with the regular 20v dewalts, however just holding them in your hand along side a Milwaukee and they just feel inferior. Have a good selection of both bands, but ive definitely steered more towards Milwaukee over the last year. Just like the way they fit my hand better, guess i have the same size hands as the testers in the Milwaukee lab lll
I like the 12v systems. The battery is almost half the weight and you rarely feel lacking for power.
But Hilti tools are $8000 ea.
I have Hilti batteries that i purchased in 2009 that i still use today. Lashed out last year and purchased a whole new fleet of Hilti late last yer.
you killed me with the "frostback" comment. omg
I myself am a Makita guy. Have always had good luck with them. Tools, n batteries. I do wish there was a way to eliminate that cut off, that stops them from charging. Since I retired, I don't use my tools as much, being in the Dewclaw line of work. Some off my batteries are 5, 6 years old, and still hold a charge very well. Even there shelf life is still very good. Have tried to stop using them at the first sign of power dropping off, let cool off then into the charger. Thanks for the vijeo as always. In my book, you will always be at the top of the list.
You can replace the BMS board with a chinese one for like $5, but it won't have the same level of protection as the original. The reason they don't allow charging is because charging an over-discharged battery can be dangerous.
I love project farm and AvE
You know you are on the good side of RUclips when you subscribed both Ave and Project Farm.
currently changing makita boards now, fkn pain, not even sure if they work yet. Smoked one of my default 18v drills, was a workhorse.
I am probably wrong but I was under the impression that Makita resolved the battery low voltage = death issue when the 'b' series batteries were released two or so years ago? Out of 5 batteries I've never had a failure and just recently threw out my original batteries (non-b) since they were OLD and well used.
@@djosbun this is my understanding as well, although it was from a rep at a tool show, however I have never had a B battery die but I have had many older versions stop working when run too hot for too long. So my experience does match what I heard from the tool rep.
@@MrJKCampione they fixed it with the batteries marked with a star. Since then (including b models) they've always had balance charging and monitoring.
@@djosbun Could have changed the cells, unless you don't care to bother. And no they still brick themselves after three "errors". The aftermarket boards are sketchy but work, just have to classify each cell and change out bad ones.
@@djosbun, I have 30 plus makita batteries and I work them hard, I agree, the newer ones don’t have the issues the original ones did. I just got rid of the old ones, less hassles and never have problems now
I love watching Todd over at Project Farm. I can watch his videos with the kids... they might get bored, but family friendly for sure.
He provides data points... In a world where 95% tool channels are blatant shills, Todd's a refreshing, wholesome source of decent data.
As a homegamer Dewilt XR 20 volt has yet to disappoint me...
Duffman15000 I feel like AVE kinda sidestepped dewalt here in that he put their most cutting edge platform on display rather than their more common, something like the XR or max platform. I wonder if he feels the same about those considering they don’t have the switching for the 20/60.
Agreed !! Hilti, through my experience, has the best battery and gives me loads of run time. Their reliability is only outdone by Hilti’s warranty and service programs. The Hilti Montreal service depot is simply amazing. They had my back through the height of Covid and I thank them. So, the best battery is also the best supported
Best is so subjective. How often is it used, what’s its used for, what’s the conditions it’s used in hot/cold or wet/dry climate ect. While I agree that Milwaukee batteries are more stout in build quality than the dewalt, I’ve got dewalts that are still working fine after 5-6 years. Only had Milwaukee for a few years but I’d bet they’ll last that long too, I keep good care of my tools because I need them to work when I need them to work.
I've had several Milwaukee batteries that failed because the solder connections on the batteries failed. The guys at work were hard on them. The Milwaukee lithium batteries had to be kept warm to work. They didn't work at -10 F and it's not fun to put a battery close to your body to heat it up enough to work.
Use the Milwaukee heated jacket to keep the batteries warm 😄👍
Best is the cheapest. Because they all die after a few weeks in salt water so whats the point of spending more.
Although the other guy at work thinks the best is the one at the tool shop that gives points. Because if were spending a few grand a year on batteries he might as well get the points.
And you need them to work once or twice every other week?
I have had 2 milwaukee 5ah batteries i have used as a professional installer since 2016. Still using them today. Have not had any battery issues at all. Other than losing one.....
Milwaukee batteries don’t hold up in the automotive field. The cases crack, rattle right off the impact wrench. How ironic, they have introduced anti vibration mounting to the new 1”gun. Yea...
interesting that they didn't think of that before. My makita 1/2" has vibration dampening between the handle and battery. Never had an issue with my 5amp battery
Ive had m18 tools for about 8 years, i beat my cordless stuff hard (industrial machine repair/millright) I've only had 2 batteries crack on my and both were accidentally dropped from a hight greater than 15ft. Tools still worked and so did the batteries after some superglue lol
I agree. I'm in the heavy equipment repair field and we run Milwaukee cordless impacts (3/8", 1/2", 3/4" and 1"). I've seen us replace about 50 of the batteries in the last 2 years. Even had a brand new case show up and most of them wouldn't even work. They make great tools, but their batteries don't seem to hold up.
Our diesel mechanics where I work all have the best 1/2" Milwaukee M18 guns, and they all have loose AF batteries where you either have to hold the batter in place to make proper contact, or use a zip tie to cinch it to the gun.
I dunno man, we used the 1/2" impacts building grain dryers,12 hours a day at with near constant use and it almost seemed that the batteries outlasted the tool, I only remember once or twice a battery crapped out but we went through those impacts like fairly regularly
I can speak for the build quality of the Hilti battery’s. I dropped my impact driver 21ft from a ridge of a building and all it did was split the rubber on the battery a little bit.
We've had fewer issues with the Dewalt Flex Volt (6AH & 9AH) than the Milwaukee batteries ... Absolutely nothing against Milwaukee this is just our experience (framing company, the tools get used hard).
I have had very good luck with Ryobi. Got stuck into the ecosystem on a few killer deals at Home Depot. From their chainsaws, weed trimmers, circular saw, drills, garage door opener, grease gun, impacts. I have around 28 one+ tools (Not becuase I think they are the best, but it's nice to have one battery type for everything). While I am not a professional carpenter, mechanic, or landscaper I have built sheds, house additions, average remodeling, normal yard maintenance and have built a few project vehicles. Even the craptastic 1.5 AH or 2 AH included with some of the tools are still working fine after 6-8 years (however they were not even good when new).
What about the plain old dewalt 20v? I’ve put them through their paces and I’ve never had an ounce o grief
I have had good luck with cryobi for my hard earned kopecks they have served me well I am a residential maintenance technician love your vedjeos definitely the best on the web
Now I know why I been able to get dead Makita batteries with good cells to re-purpose for my EV.
Great point. I'd love to find some "dead" ones to harvest from.
You need to post some videos of the build bruh. I would love to have a knockoff powerwall one day...
@@ricksanchez7459 check out HBPowerwall
After I tortured my Milwaukee drills for the first years of my career.. I can never buy another cordless brand other than Milwaukee.
I'm still to this day impressed when I think back at how rough I was on those drills that they survived.
It would be great to see CAS battery, (Metabo, Mafell, etc)
Yeah, I bet they're comparable to Hilti while also just being a better form factor.
I would too. I've had three fail, all replaced under warranty with no issues. I think the first two failed due to being hooked up to a drill with a faulty circuit board that also got replaced. The third? Not sure.
Been using the Milwaukee m18s for a good 5 years now.... Absolutely zero complaints. Great batteries and tons of tools to use them on. Glad to see the shout-out to project farm, he does great work.
The regular 20v DeWalt batteries are great. I run them hard for years and years on grinders impacts and chainsaws.
Same
Been a makita user for over 5 years without issues. Not trying to contrarian to our Canadian brother but I have had good use from them. Like he said, the best power tool is the one that works best for YOU.
What about the DeWalt 20v?
They are pretty much the same as Milwaukee BMS wise, but with a weaker casing.
FWIW I still have my 1.5ah Makita batteries from 2007, many many hours/years of use and zero issues.
We use all dewalt batteries in my company. All of the 60v have been great. We did have a 20v that had a little meltdown while plugged into the dewalt flashlight. Otherwise, be beat the ever living shit out of them, they get wet and what not. We're plumbers.
Been using DeWalt for 15 years now in general construction and if there's a problem with the batteries I've never noticed it. I've had a couple Makita batteries get weak over the years but the DeWalts keep on going.
I've been using DeFault cordless for 20 yrs w/ not an issue other than worn out cells after hundreds of charges.
And I too am am a Plumber, or as a 3 affectionately calls us, "Turd Herder".
The 1st gen 60v 9ah had major problems but luckily they almost all failed within warranty I guess
Must be all the stale piss and jizzy hairballs keep the dust washed out of you guy's tools (bless you for literally doing the shit jobs). I wouldn't know if DeFault batteries are good because the tools always take a shit within 6 months. Gave up on them and went to the red side, had much better luck. All the plumbers I know seem like good dudes, but I gotta wonder about fellas who volunteer to fish around in somebody else's shit...
Carpenter here and all we use is Dewalt. Got some old brushed impacts and drills with the old slim 20v max's. Our impacts get so abused they become to hot to hold and always smell like electrical fire. Been knocked off decks and a couple roofs. The old 20v max slims are junk, and only hold 5 min of battery life, but hey, they're still kickin' and don't cost a dime.
Best buy for any workshop is a long and strong power extender cable. Cordless tools look nice and handy but most times you don't really need something that mobile and they all cost a lot more than the standard (plugged) equivalent. Batteries will always let you down when you need them most and for the amount you'd pay for a decent consumer grade cordless you can often buy a professional grade plugged-in tool that will work every time and last a lot longer.
The best battery is the one I can get replaced 7 days a week, cause when I need it, I need it.
@@verliebt3465 no dewalt, milwaukee, and Makita meet that bill.
@@verliebt3465 home depot is open 7 days a week and carries all 3
Hey Bubba, both of my original Makita combo kit batteries died within a couple hours of each other, about 2 years after purchase. It might have been what I was doing with them, I was tapping 1/2-13 holes, in 1 inch thick hot rolled steel plate. Not all the way through, i had tapped them in a HAAS, to Z-.700, tap drilled to Z-.950, so i wouldn't drill into the top of the vises. I finished tap drilling .421 dia with the Makita 18V, the i ground 3 flats on a 1/2-13 plug tap, and tapped them through with the Makita. I had 144 holes to thread, i got to about 130, when the first battery gave up, the second battery I had to keep charging about every 3-4 holes and it made it to the end. Died right after, i bought a cheesy Chinese 5.0amp/hour for $32, and 2 years later it still holds a good charge. It was worth $32.
You didn't test metobo or fien which considering the price i would assume would be very scookum but i don't really know because I'm to cheap to buy them
They don't seem to be all that popular here in Canada. He may not have much experience with them.
Unfortunately, Metabo is dead. Hitachi/Hikoki purchased them not long ago. I believe the corded tools, like their legendary grinders are still genuine Metabo, but anything cordless or labeled "Metabo HPT" is actually a Hikoki (a subsidiary of Hitachi). These aren't bad tools at all, but they certainly aren't up to the standard associated with the Metabo name.
@@gasfiltered i thought metobo and metobo hpt are to different brands metobo still same and metobo hpt formerly Hitachi was rebranded but i could be wrong
I've gotten multiple Hilti tools and batteries, can say for sure that they are great. All used tools from eBay.
I had my 2 9amp Milwaukee batteries flash error codes and unable to charge in the same week.-$600 :/
That's when you call their tech line and ask where to send them.
My 9.0 got melted by the heater, latches don't work cause I had to cut the battery out of the super hawg. Can see the nickel strips and the charge indicator is gone. Still runs the vacuum, and gave me an excuse to grab a 12.0 for the hawg.
5 year warranty send them fuckers in to get fixed
@@beefysghost867 I had no receipt and bought them both from different places haha. Ohwell
@@airtothewick don't need a receipt. As long as in warranty period from manufacture then you good. Give them a call today they help you out. Alwats had great luck with them
@@beefysghost867 thanks for that
Nice of you to say somthing nice towards project farm. you hit the nail on the head with his personality. Thanks for being kind.
Between you two guys it gives me hours of entertainment, I must say though I do really injoy your video and humor. And still to this day I use tip on indicating parts in the CNC. It save me so much money on them fancy red tip indicators. And gives the frends a real good laugh .
All around though the years it has been enjoyable viewing
Thanks!
Love AvE, but I dont have a clue how the hell he arrived at his conclusion here, there is no way he watched this same review video. According to Project Farm, Dewalt is clearly superior in every test excluding drop durability.
Been in USAF aircraft maintenance for 20 years, and most of the shops at most of the bases I have been to use Dewalt power tools due to the tools durability. Can't tell you how many times I have seen a Dewalt power drill fall off a maintenance stand 20-30 feet in the air, hit concrete, and still operate. (I'm not exaggerating either) and the batteries chooch for a good long time when you are drilling out dozens of stuck fasteners in all kinds of weather.
Edit: autocorrect replaced "chooch"
The Dewalt won by sacrificing battery longevity for short term performance. The faster the charge time, the shorter the battery life. The higher the charge voltage, the shorter the battery life. The lower the voltage cutoff, the shorter the battery life. Dewalt batteries are renowned for dying out faster than other brands for that fundamental reason. As for performance, that's more of a matter of how efficient the tool is more than whether or not the battery is made to last 6 or 8 years.
Ran a Shat-On Cordless Impact Driver for years, threw it around, dropped it, recharged it regularly, it never let me down, replaced the battery after about two/two and half years once it couldn’t do a days work and she’s chooching along quite happily. Thankfully my tools were paid for by my company and so long as I could make a case for a particular bit of kit then I’d just hop on the truck of shiny accoutrements and collect whatever I needed. Contrast that to my home gamer Bosch drill, it’s had irregular use over about five years and the battery can barely hold a charge and it gives up after drilling a few holes, I’m unwilling to replace the batteries as it’s not been a reliable drill. It’s on my Christmas list, let’s hope Santa hasn’t seen my behaviour behind the bike sheds with the Mrs.....
Just say ave, I have NEVER seen Hilti at Home Despot
www.homedepot.com/p/Hilti-22-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Keyless-Chuck-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Brushless-Impact-Driver-Combo-Kit-batteries-included-3554455/301682369
Look on the HD website.
I saw them in downtown chicago several years ago. Dont see them now at any home depot.
Well that kinda defeats the purpose...I could look at plenty of websites to find Hilti.
I bought my first Hilti grinder from Home Depot close to 15 years ago I guess. I haven't seen them there since then, but it got me hooked on Hilti. I've bought other brands since then but as far as corded angle grinders go no one makes one that can compete with Hilti.
Anyone here beside me a fan of Ridgid cordless tools? I've used a variety in my life, but Ridgid are the only ones I use any more. Only battery packs I've had that outlasted the charger, and they're all 18V. Great tools, too.