I'm tired of winning games with this trap. I had no idea it was called this way. I called it " The Great Fitzgerald" in honor of my friend who showed it to me.
I played this game when I was 1284 in the first round against a 1551 smart young player and won it in 7 moves with mate. After that, players came around and someone said, "What? Are you serious?" They all couldn't believe it. I bought a small, used book called, "Chess traps and strategems". That helped alot for me before internet came.
3:27! I guess, Knight c2 is probably the best move. If white captures with the queen, you're just gonna recapture it with yours, or if white's king moves to f1, queen h1 checkmate!
In the variation where 6. Nxh8 happened, after you play 8. ... Bc5 (position at 3:29 of the video), there is a forced checkmate in 7. In all variations, they revolve around the queen giving checkmate on f2, or h3 after the night comes to f3. Study the variations (or be really good at checkmate puzzles) and you'll have crushed your opponent in 15 turns at most!
@tigiris2257 great question! Black should play d5! This attacks the bishop on c4 and double attacks the knight on g4. White also has to be careful in exchanges because knight can play Nxc2 if the queen is no longer protecting that square. Hope this helps.
Well two quick things you to think about. 1. I said Nf3 is not mate and it's not. In the previous example Nf3 was ++ and in this example it's not, it's just check, big difference. 2. After Nf3 black can't play Qh1 because his queen is blocked by his knight. Not sure if you even saw this but just be careful.
3:28 Blank can move his knight to C2 nd check the king, white king move he capture rook/castle. OR queen capture knight, black queen captures wjite queen
You forgot the case where after the knight takes e5 he can also fallback to g4 to be protected by the queen and also blocking the queen from taking g2 pawn. That's what I played the first time I fell into this trap
@19FENERBAHCE7 that is so awesome. Nothing better than throwing a trap at a good player in a tournament and have them fall right into it, the whole time you are fully knowledgeable about the different variations and how to crush them every step of the way. Keep it up and keep me posted with ur success. I love hearing stories like this.
At 3:20, why not Nxc2+ instead of Bc5, winning white queen? (As Kf1 would go into Qh1#). Black is basically up a queen in that line. EDIT : Ok, I asked an engine and says that Bc5 leads to a forced mate in 8. Not sure I would able to pull it off though, so might as well take the queen.
There are a lot of questions about this. Most traps are not very commonly known and can really screw up a player's game if they don't know it (A good amount of the time). White usually captures on f7 with his Knight because it appears to fork two high-value pieces (Queen and Rook). Obviously, this loses lots of material, but the naive opponent doesn't know it.
@piouiyutyrterzea1 while i agree that Nxc2 does win material, i think that Bd5 is not only a good idea, but wins the game much faster. Don't get me wrong, both moves are fine and black will win, but I think Bd5 is the better move.
@669881 that was my first thought in that position too. As black I would like to try Kxf7 and Ke6. White is going to have some pressure for a while but I think it is defendable.
I just played this trap and got to the variation at 2:22. They just took my knight with their bishop, now I'm not sure if I should just take their knight with my king and be up a crap ton of material or do something else and let them take my rook. Edit: I took their bishop with my king and won that game.
You are right you are missing something. The idea is that white HAS TO FALL FOR THE TRAP FIRST by doing Nxe5 at 0:34. If he does c3 at that time then he has not fallen for the trap. Its not a forced error/move its just a trap and the analysis of how effective it is once fallen for.
What about, at 1:45 and 3:55, instead of taking on F7 with either the bishop or knight, white plays Ng4, blocking the black queen from taking on g2? Then, if the black attacks the knight with a pawn, play Ne3 which still defends g2 or even d3 which counterattacks the black queen with white's dark-squared bishop. Would that work?
Just to follow up from three days ago. At 5:oo your analysis is perfect! I showed this to one of my colleagues who said most of the videos that do go one step further in analyzing bishop takes on f7 claim that black queen simply takes the pawn on e4! Allegedly, d4 does NOT kick away the queen and allow b4 and a4, the pawn storm I alluded to. Black queen moves away after rook to e1 and white is now down TWO points!! Amazingly, none of the videos go any further! The VERY NEXT MOVE is queen to e2 threatening mate in one! The black queen to f7 or bishop to e7 CAN NOT stop bishop to g5 check!! I can't believe how many videos simply refuse to analyze further. When white takes at f7 with the bishop this becomes a WHITE TRAP!!
I tried this maybe 20 times with Black today - not once did my opponent take the pawn. It seems that accepting the knight trade is preferable, since it weakens Black's kingside immediately
Sup ya taking Knight is very much better. I initially had trouble with this opening. Nowadays I take Knight and when he takes back I play c3. Most players take the pawn & I will take back with b Knight. In this position white has 3 minor pieces developed & black has none. Your opponents must be experienced players. They know the mayhem if they take the pawn.
3:23 ..in this move i usually go for fork with knight to rook and king ,forcing queen to take knight.If queen doesnt take and move king instead ..check from h1 will put final nail on the coffin
eWhiteHunter before you go accusing people of being wrong make sure you know what your talking about, he said c2 would result in either a checkmate or queen capture which is correct. After white queen captures horse on c2 why would black queen go h1 when there is a free queen for the taking, which at that stage would lead to an easy win? He said h1 if the queen doesn't take and he would move his king instead which queen h1 would result in checkmate. Where is the error in his logic? I'm sorry 'You're wrong.'
At 3:23 I would also Nc2+ to check and attack his other rook. But move Kf1 then Qh1# , or lose white Queen on c2 for a Knight, and then black queen eats queen/bishop/pawn/rook/knight.
couldnt at 1:50 the knight just move to g4 instead of taking the pawn on f7? it would block threat to the pawn while saving your knight, because the queen is protecting it?
At 2:19, if white queen gets in the way and then black knight captures and then bishop captures, then is the trap over since queen capturing the bishop would just lead to the king capturing the queen?
Many bad things can happen to white at any time of the trap if it uses its knight to block on g2 (Ng4 --> g2): -pawn d7 --> d5 (light-squared bishop double attacks the knight, pawn forks a pawn and a bishop, and it controls the middle of the board) -Nd4 --> c2 (Causes the white king to move OR causes the defender (white's queen) of the blocking white knight to move away) :(
At set of trap :50, why go after the pawn? Why not take the knight on d4? black will recapture, pieces will be equalized, but black will have double pawns and white will have better positioning.
at 1:39, isn't Ng4 a good move for White?Note that Ng4 obstructs the Black Q. If now black moves his pawn from d7 so that his light square Bishop can aim at Ng4, then white can now do Ne3.
at 3:27 isn't the best move Nxc2 check? either he captures with his queen and loses it, or he has to slide his king over to f1. then queen to H1 checkmate
Ah, the Blackburn Gambit. I love it, one of the best traps I ever pulled off (next to the Legal Trap). Good video, I'm looking forward to the next one. Any chance we can get a Blackmair-Diemer gambit next?
At 3:24 when you say that moving your knight to f3 isn't checkmate, it is in 2 isn't it? The king has to move to f1 (the bishop can't take because it's pinned by the queen). The queen can then move to h1 and that's checkmate.
what happens if at 2.06, you move rook a g1, QXR +, then Bfi, after that, black dont have another option, then white NxR, I think is a good variation too and you are even in material
At 3:24 in the video wouldn't it be better to move your Nd4 to f3 because after that the white king can only move to f1. After that Qe4 to h1 mate right?
hey man this is an awesome video. really nice trap and good explanation but i do have a question. pls answer as i really want to know what to do. you know at 3:30, when u bring the bishop down? how do u continue the attack? thanks in advance :D
at 1.29 if you move white knight to g4, then black move pawn to d5 attacking white bishop at the same time attacking the knight in g4 with the black bishop in c8, and you can win a piece. is a good move too..sorry for my english...
At 3:48 cant white bring the knight to g4 to block the queens attack, at the same time successfully taking the pawn? if pawn pushes h5 the knight can just retreat to e3 also protecting g2. I'd love a response thanks.
At 3:23 instead of moving the bishop to c5, it would be best to move the knight to c2 thereby checking the king, and forking the bishop, if he moves the king its checkmate, if he captures with queen, you win his queen.
Thanks Kevin. So.... What's the best line for black if white does the right thing and takes the knight on D4 on his/her/it's 4th move as opposed to falling for the trap and taking E5?
What would you do if the knight takes the pawn, which is the trap, then I take my queen out as the video shows, he does check with his bishop, I move my queen, and, he move back his knight from e5 to f3...In other words,I have a queen in g3, and a knight in d4, while he has a bishop in f7 and a knight in f3...
If after I play Nd4, white doesn't take the free bait e5 pawn, instead white takes Nxd4, my trap failed. Am I screwed, or do I still have a good game as black?
I have a question here.. How about instead of taking that poisonous pawn on e5, White gives a Bishop sacrifice by taking the pawn on f7? Continued with Nxe5+ and because of Black's King is opened from attacks, White will do its Quenn check manouver with the combination of the Knight.. How about it, Kevin?
+Viktor Lantos It doesnt counter the trap it would just be exchange of knights, but better players will almost never do it because they prefer pawn advantage than exchanging knights as it is more logical move :)
Thank you for making so many awesome videos! There's a good chance I've watched them all. Might have missed a few though... Anyway, hope you make more videos this good.
When bishop checks you on f7 the right move for your king is actually e7, and then you're assured to take either the bishop or the knight in the next turn
Well you're HALF right. Yes, Black's Queen CAN take the White Knight on e5, but Black's King CANNOT take the White bishop on f7, because it's protected by the White Knight on e5!
If white takes on F7 check the black king best move is not D8 i think the best move for king is E7 attacking the bishop and the queen is also is attacking the knights its double attack.
No, actually.... Ke7 0-0 Qxe5 Bxg8 Rxg8 c3 Nc6 (Ne6, d4 Qxe4, Re1 followed by d5 and white recaptures the piece and has better development and a safe king) d4 And blacks king is stopping the bishop from developing and is placed on the same line as the Queen. So its actually getting in the way.
Please correct the title. It's 'Shilling', as in the old coin, not 'Schilling', the German surname. It was named after Blackburne's alleged practice of winning many shillings from playing this trap.
+Allen Barry i think if black does d5 after NG4, white either loses bishop, while protecting the knight, or take the d5 pawn. if white does take pawn, black queen takes the knight, still attacking g2 (and you lost knight for a pawn). tl;dr : i cannot see how could white avoid losing material. ps.: bringing out the queen early is not a good idea imo pps.: i wonder what happens if at 0:50 white takes knight with knight. cuz if black takes, he is behind in development and has a bad pawn.
Sorry, I've forgotten to write down the line of moves. 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nd4 4 Nxe5 Qg5 5 Bxf7+ Kd8 6. Ng4 d5 (attacking the knight with bishop on c8) 7. Ne3 ....?
I found. this video 13 years after it was published and I was also fallen into a trap, playing for white. However, I managed to checkmate on 11th move due to a wrong defence of black's king on move 10. Here is what I played: 1: e4 - e5. 2: Nf3 - Nc6. 3: Bc4 - Nd4 4: Nxe5 - Qg5 5:Nxf7 - Qxg2. 6: Qh5 - Qxh1+ 7: Bf1 - Qxe4+. 8: Kd1 - Qh1 9: Nd6+ Ke7 10: Qe5+ Kd8. (black's mistake that saved my game as I could immediately checkmate). 11: Nf7# 1-0. I was under immediate checkmate on a next move by black as soon as they were not under check, so playing that game though I won I could not recommend as it relies on opponent's mistake.
when white falls for the first part of the trap and takes the e-pawn, black moves the queen to g5. i thought that white still hass the possibility of moving his knight to g4 and after pawn to h5, he can move the knight to e3 also protecting the g2 pawn. I think that both players are then quite equal. White has moved his knight 4 times in the opening, and black has an early active queen but hasn't developed a lot of his minor pieces, so personally i wouldn't recommend playing this.
+xMrMarcus Simply play d5, opening up the line for the bishop and attack the knight, and striking at the center aswell. The knight is dangerously placed on that g file that the queen is lining up again, if Qxg2 really is a theat, then the knight will just be pinned and attack with moves like h5.
5. B:f7+ Kd8 6. Ng4 d5 7. h3 h5 8. d3 Qh4 9. Ne3, and Black can't play 9 ed 10. ed Q:e4 because 11.c3 gets the knight. 5…Ke7 is better, as the knight can't leave e5 then. 6. B:g8 loses to Q:g2!, so let's try 6. O-O Q:e5 7.B:g8 R:g8 8. c3 Ne6 9. d4 and Q:e4? 10. Re1 Qany 11. d5 gets the piece back, so maybe 10…Qf6 11. e5 Qg6 and white has two pawns and perhaps a positional edge for the piece.
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I'm so bad at chess that I didn't even notice that the e5 pawn was hanging so I took my opponents knight and evaded the trap.
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@@MangoPuree yea lol
Lmfao it do be like that.
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Actually the best move
this blackburne was some wild bloke wasnt he
Why is this funny
Actually its not
@@pranveshrox_6677 I dont know how but its hilarious
I'm tired of winning games with this trap. I had no idea it was called this way. I called it " The Great Fitzgerald" in honor of my friend who showed it to me.
people never play these moves against me...
@@averagecodm3866 I just played someone who played this gambit, and i was shooked lol
@@artemischen4086 damnn
@@artemischen4086 i love this gambit i completely destroy people w it
lol whenever i click a chesswebsite video, the first feeling i get is that im on an airplane, with that sound, and that kevin is the pilot
I played this game when I was 1284 in the first round against a 1551 smart young player and won it in 7 moves with mate. After that, players came around and someone said, "What? Are you serious?" They all couldn't believe it. I bought a small, used book called, "Chess traps and strategems". That helped alot for me before internet came.
3:27! I guess, Knight c2 is probably the best move. If white captures with the queen, you're just gonna recapture it with yours, or if white's king moves to f1, queen h1 checkmate!
though Bc5 also leads to that eventually...
ok
You are right. That's a good move.
I find your voice very easy to listen to.
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In the variation where 6. Nxh8 happened, after you play 8. ... Bc5 (position at 3:29 of the video), there is a forced checkmate in 7. In all variations, they revolve around the queen giving checkmate on f2, or h3 after the night comes to f3. Study the variations (or be really good at checkmate puzzles) and you'll have crushed your opponent in 15 turns at most!
@tigiris2257 great question! Black should play d5! This attacks the bishop on c4 and double attacks the knight on g4. White also has to be careful in exchanges because knight can play Nxc2 if the queen is no longer protecting that square.
Hope this helps.
lol y u comment instead of reply 2 a comment
Well two quick things you to think about.
1. I said Nf3 is not mate and it's not. In the previous example Nf3 was ++ and in this example it's not, it's just check, big difference.
2. After Nf3 black can't play Qh1 because his queen is blocked by his knight.
Not sure if you even saw this but just be careful.
3:28
Blank can move his knight to C2 nd check the king, white king move he capture rook/castle.
OR queen capture knight, black queen captures wjite queen
@SohnoJam Thanks for kind words !
You forgot the case where after the knight takes e5 he can also fallback to g4 to be protected by the queen and also blocking the queen from taking g2 pawn. That's what I played the first time I fell into this trap
It doesn't work after black plays d5, attacking the bishop on c4 and opening up an attack on the knight on g4
@19FENERBAHCE7 that is so awesome. Nothing better than throwing a trap at a good player in a tournament and have them fall right into it, the whole time you are fully knowledgeable about the different variations and how to crush them every step of the way. Keep it up and keep me posted with ur success. I love hearing stories like this.
1:30 What about f4? Than black is basically screwed, right?
At 3:20, why not Nxc2+ instead of Bc5, winning white queen? (As Kf1 would go into Qh1#). Black is basically up a queen in that line.
EDIT : Ok, I asked an engine and says that Bc5 leads to a forced mate in 8. Not sure I would able to pull it off though, so might as well take the queen.
There are a lot of questions about this. Most traps are not very commonly known and can really screw up a player's game if they don't know it (A good amount of the time). White usually captures on f7 with his Knight because it appears to fork two high-value pieces (Queen and Rook). Obviously, this loses lots of material, but the naive opponent doesn't know it.
@piouiyutyrterzea1 while i agree that Nxc2 does win material, i think that Bd5 is not only a good idea, but wins the game much faster. Don't get me wrong, both moves are fine and black will win, but I think Bd5 is the better move.
someone played this against me, i just played Nxd4.
Faye Zhao Well a better move in my opinion is O-O
Same
Stockfish says taking the knight is the best move and castling is a mistake.
Same
@DarkDusk118 it was a joke but ok lol
At 3:30 instead of Bc5, Nc2+ just wins!
+cgmairena Bc5 is a forced mate. For example: 8 ...Bc5 9. d3 Nf3+ 10. Kf1 Qh4 11. Kg2 Qxf2+ 12. Kh3 d6#
Nc2+ wins too of course.
Why win a Queen when you can have a mate in 9 with Bc5?
Might not remember a mate in 9
@Dagobert Duck: You also win the black bishop and either the knight or the rook.
And the queen......?
4:55 blacks best move would likely be Bd6 to threaten checkmate and develop material
After g3 where is black going with this?
I've said it before but you're a really good teacher.
@3:30 I think a better move would be knight-c2, he has to capture with his queen unless he wants to get checkmate.
@669881 that was my first thought in that position too. As black I would like to try Kxf7 and Ke6. White is going to have some pressure for a while but I think it is defendable.
I just played this trap and got to the variation at 2:22. They just took my knight with their bishop, now I'm not sure if I should just take their knight with my king and be up a crap ton of material or do something else and let them take my rook.
Edit: I took their bishop with my king and won that game.
You are right you are missing something. The idea is that white HAS TO FALL FOR THE TRAP FIRST by doing Nxe5 at 0:34. If he does c3 at that time then he has not fallen for the trap. Its not a forced error/move its just a trap and the analysis of how effective it is once fallen for.
What about, at 1:45 and 3:55, instead of taking on F7 with either the bishop or knight, white plays Ng4, blocking the black queen from taking on g2? Then, if the black attacks the knight with a pawn, play Ne3 which still defends g2 or even d3 which counterattacks the black queen with white's dark-squared bishop. Would that work?
At 3:22 better move is Nxc2+. White has to take the knight with queen and lose his queen because if he responds with Kf1 then black plays Qh1#
the second variation explained you said the the black bishop to be brought to c5, when Be2. But Nf3+ yields a mate.. followed by Kf1, Qh1#
If you're talking about 3:24, the Knight's blocking the queen from reaching h1
this is my favorite gambit because it being uncommon makes it work way more
Just to follow up from three days ago. At 5:oo your analysis is perfect! I showed this to one of my colleagues who said most of the videos that do go one step further in analyzing bishop takes on f7 claim that black queen simply takes the pawn on e4! Allegedly, d4 does NOT kick away the queen and allow b4 and a4, the pawn storm I alluded to. Black queen moves away after rook to e1 and white is now down TWO points!! Amazingly, none of the videos go any further! The VERY NEXT MOVE is queen to e2 threatening mate in one! The black queen to f7 or bishop to e7 CAN NOT stop bishop to g5 check!! I can't believe how many videos simply refuse to analyze further. When white takes at f7 with the bishop this becomes a WHITE TRAP!!
I tried this maybe 20 times with Black today - not once did my opponent take the pawn. It seems that accepting the knight trade is preferable, since it weakens Black's kingside immediately
Sup ya taking Knight is very much better. I initially had trouble with this opening. Nowadays I take Knight and when he takes back I play c3. Most players take the pawn & I will take back with b Knight. In this position white has 3 minor pieces developed & black has none. Your opponents must be experienced players. They know the mayhem if they take the pawn.
I’ve tried waiting about 10 seconds. Seems to make people think more and take the pawn 😂🤷🏻♂️
3:23 ..in this move i usually go for fork with knight to rook and king ,forcing queen to take knight.If queen doesnt take and move king instead ..check from h1 will put final nail on the coffin
At 3:32 kt takes c2 check...leads to checkmate on h1 or loss of the queen. bish to c5 is not the best move imho !!
Sumo Steve agreed
Peter Sun even kt f3 check, king F1, Queen H1 check mate is better ??
Sumo Steve You're wrong, If Kc2+ ,Qxc2, Qh1+ white will block with bishop on f1 and it will not be checkmate loss of material.
Sumo Steve On your second post How can Queen on E4 go to H1 if youre blocking the way with the Knight on F3? Wrong again
eWhiteHunter before you go accusing people of being wrong make sure you know what your talking about, he said c2 would result in either a checkmate or queen capture which is correct. After white queen captures horse on c2 why would black queen go h1 when there is a free queen for the taking, which at that stage would lead to an easy win? He said h1 if the queen doesn't take and he would move his king instead which queen h1 would result in checkmate. Where is the error in his logic?
I'm sorry 'You're wrong.'
at 4:11, I think a good move would be knight to g4. It's protected by the queen and it blocks black queen from taking at g2
What a beautiful trap
what if at 4:15 white plays Ng4 which prevents Qg2 and saves the knight?
At 3:23 I would also Nc2+ to check and attack his other rook. But move Kf1 then Qh1# , or lose white Queen on c2 for a Knight, and then black queen eats queen/bishop/pawn/rook/knight.
I would love to see some other variations of this. For example instead of the knight capturing the pawn on e5, what are some lines if Nxd4?
couldnt at 1:50 the knight just move to g4 instead of taking the pawn on f7? it would block threat to the pawn while saving your knight, because the queen is protecting it?
U can but still white will lose a piece after d5. Bishop and Knight both are threatened.
4:55 why is d4 a good move, doesn't it just lose a pawn? pls explain someone
This is brilliant, just beat 1900 player in 8 moves in 15min game. love your videos man! keep up the good work! :)
At 2:19, if white queen gets in the way and then black knight captures and then bishop captures, then is the trap over since queen capturing the bishop would just lead to the king capturing the queen?
eguimaray Who said the queen had to capture the bishop??
After knight takes and bishop retakes Qxc7 traps the other bishop and threatens mate
At 1:33 what if Ng4? White just blocks the attacking on g2?
Then black can play d5, attacking the bishop with the d pawn and the knight with the light squared bishop
jaanathan gill good move
Many bad things can happen to white at any time of the trap if it uses its knight to block on g2 (Ng4 --> g2):
-pawn d7 --> d5 (light-squared bishop double attacks the knight, pawn forks a pawn and a bishop, and it controls the middle of the board)
-Nd4 --> c2 (Causes the white king to move OR causes the defender (white's queen) of the blocking white knight to move away)
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at 3:22 if Bishop moves to protect the white king wouldn't moving the black queen to check the king be checkmate?
+eliot amado no, the bishop just moves back to block the queen.
+eliot amado Black should play Nc2+ and Qh1X or White loses Queen to avoid the mat. Bc5 is bad move
he could capture on c2 with his queen (losing his queen) but at least avoid mate for time being.
1:40, what if white goes Bf7 instead of Nf7?
At set of trap :50, why go after the pawn? Why not take the knight on d4? black will recapture, pieces will be equalized, but black will have double pawns and white will have better positioning.
5:25 bishap to d6 can be a good move
@Jamal Preet nigga take time to spell
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How should it win faster? After Nxc2 White should resign instantly, he loses the Queen. Thats much faster than a nice attack move.
at 1:39, isn't Ng4 a good move for White?Note that Ng4 obstructs the Black Q. If now black moves his pawn from d7 so that his light square Bishop can aim at Ng4, then white can now do Ne3.
at 3:27 isn't the best move Nxc2 check? either he captures with his queen and loses it, or he has to slide his king over to f1. then queen to H1 checkmate
Ah, the Blackburn Gambit. I love it, one of the best traps I ever pulled off (next to the Legal Trap). Good video, I'm looking forward to the next one.
Any chance we can get a Blackmair-Diemer gambit next?
At 3:24 when you say that moving your knight to f3 isn't checkmate, it is in 2 isn't it?
The king has to move to f1 (the bishop can't take because it's pinned by the queen). The queen can then move to h1 and that's checkmate.
what happens if at 2.06, you move rook a g1, QXR +, then Bfi, after that, black dont have another option, then white NxR, I think is a good variation too and you are even in material
I love this trap, and it is funny every time that i try to initiate one of the openings/ traps it never happens the way i plan lol
I actually tried this and it worked,nice trap.
4:12 what about Ng4?
At 3:24 in the video wouldn't it be better to move your Nd4 to f3 because after that the white king can only move to f1. After that Qe4 to h1 mate right?
3:30 i think Nc2 is the best and get the queen, if Kf1 then mate in Qh1#
Surely at 3:30 that's a mate Nf3+ followed by Qh1#
How about when 1:30 Ng4???? Please answer me
hey man this is an awesome video. really nice trap and good explanation but i do have a question. pls answer as i really want to know what to do. you know at 3:30, when u bring the bishop down? how do u continue the attack? thanks in advance :D
@RoyalDevil3 could have just emailed :)
anyway, first get queen out of the way Qb8, and then Ne5, mate in 1 after that.
at 1.29 if you move white knight to g4, then black move pawn to d5 attacking white bishop at the same time attacking the knight in g4 with the black bishop in c8, and you can win a piece. is a good move too..sorry for my english...
hi,after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.bc4 Nd4 4.Ne5 Qg5 5.Bxf7 Kd8 6.Instead of 0-0,he can move Ng4???Because of castling he also lost his Knight in e5????
I thought this as well. The problem is that when knight moves to c2 then it is blocking the queen from moving to h1.
At 3:48 cant white bring the knight to g4 to block the queens attack, at the same time successfully taking the pawn? if pawn pushes h5 the knight can just retreat to e3 also protecting g2. I'd love a response thanks.
At 3:23 instead of moving the bishop to c5, it would be best to move the knight to c2 thereby checking the king, and forking the bishop, if he moves the king its checkmate, if he captures with queen, you win his queen.
Thanks Kevin. So.... What's the best line for black if white does the right thing and takes the knight on D4 on his/her/it's 4th move as opposed to falling for the trap and taking E5?
What would you do if the knight takes the pawn, which is the trap, then I take my queen out as the video shows, he does check with his bishop, I move my queen, and, he move back his knight from e5 to f3...In other words,I have a queen in g3, and a knight in d4, while he has a bishop in f7 and a knight in f3...
after qg5 bf7 check kd8 ng4 after ke7 ng4 sacrificing the knight for an attack which seems to work am I having a blind spot here?
what's wrong with going pawn c3 on move 4?
Could white push the QBP up 1 and try and chase the Knight away?
Doesn't going Ng4 save the knight and the g pawn?
If you're black and your opponent castles at 0:58 how should black respond?
After knight d4 what is white takes it
In the last part of the video, black could play Bxd6 followed by Qxh2 taking the pawn and securing checkmate
+#Julian 15 white can just g3
If after I play Nd4, white doesn't take the free bait e5 pawn, instead white takes Nxd4, my trap failed. Am I screwed, or do I still have a good game as black?
I have a question here.. How about instead of taking that poisonous pawn on e5, White gives a Bishop sacrifice by taking the pawn on f7? Continued with Nxe5+ and because of Black's King is opened from attacks, White will do its Quenn check manouver with the combination of the Knight.. How about it, Kevin?
in 03:24 why you didnt played Kc2? then he is forced to take that knight with his qouin
at 4.14 min if we will knite g4 what happend on white
@669881 yes I'm curious about that too as it looks quite dangerous. I'm wondering if the best continuation for black is Kxe7 followed by Ke6?
@55seconds, why would white not take d4? seems like the obvious choice to me
+Samuel Schaefer it rly seems like that move counters the trap.
+Viktor Lantos It doesnt counter the trap it would just be exchange of knights, but better players will almost never do it because they prefer pawn advantage than exchanging knights as it is more logical move :)
Thank you for making so many awesome videos! There's a good chance I've watched them all. Might have missed a few though... Anyway, hope you make more videos this good.
same
When bishop checks you on f7 the right move for your king is actually e7, and then you're assured to take either the bishop or the knight in the next turn
Wrong. Ke7 block the bishop. Kd8 is ok. Knight is trapped
Well you're HALF right. Yes, Black's Queen CAN take the White Knight on e5, but Black's King CANNOT take the White bishop on f7, because it's protected by the White Knight on e5!
If white takes on F7 check the black king best move is not D8 i think the best move for king is E7 attacking the bishop and the queen is also is attacking the knights its double attack.
No, actually....
Ke7
0-0 Qxe5
Bxg8 Rxg8
c3 Nc6 (Ne6, d4 Qxe4, Re1 followed by d5 and white recaptures the piece and has better development and a safe king)
d4
And blacks king is stopping the bishop from developing and is placed on the same line as the Queen. So its actually getting in the way.
What if white knight goes to G4 to defend after the queen comes out?
How to checkmate at 3:25
King have another move f1
Please correct the title. It's 'Shilling', as in the old coin, not 'Schilling', the German surname. It was named after Blackburne's alleged practice of winning many shillings from playing this trap.
At 1:40 I wonder why can't the white knight move to G4 :(
+Allen Barry i think if black does d5 after NG4, white either loses bishop, while protecting the knight, or take the d5 pawn. if white does take pawn, black queen takes the knight, still attacking g2 (and you lost knight for a pawn). tl;dr : i cannot see how could white avoid losing material.
ps.: bringing out the queen early is not a good idea imo
pps.: i wonder what happens if at 0:50 white takes knight with knight. cuz if black takes, he is behind in development and has a bad pawn.
+Viktor Lantos trap is denied. I think he said so
Sorry, I've forgotten to write down the line of moves.
1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nd4 4 Nxe5 Qg5 5 Bxf7+ Kd8 6. Ng4 d5 (attacking the knight with bishop on c8) 7. Ne3 ....?
At 3:24 wouldn't Nxc2 be better? Get a queen for a knight
I found. this video 13 years after it was published and I was also fallen into a trap, playing for white. However, I managed to checkmate on 11th move due to a wrong defence of black's king on move 10. Here is what I played:
1: e4 - e5. 2: Nf3 - Nc6. 3: Bc4 - Nd4 4: Nxe5 - Qg5 5:Nxf7 - Qxg2. 6: Qh5 - Qxh1+ 7: Bf1 - Qxe4+. 8: Kd1 - Qh1 9: Nd6+ Ke7 10: Qe5+ Kd8. (black's mistake that saved my game as I could immediately checkmate). 11: Nf7# 1-0.
I was under immediate checkmate on a next move by black as soon as they were not under check, so playing that game though I won I could not recommend as it relies on opponent's mistake.
when white falls for the first part of the trap and takes the e-pawn, black moves the queen to g5. i thought that white still hass the possibility of moving his knight to g4 and after pawn to h5, he can move the knight to e3 also protecting the g2 pawn. I think that both players are then quite equal. White has moved his knight 4 times in the opening, and black has an early active queen but hasn't developed a lot of his minor pieces, so personally i wouldn't recommend playing this.
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What if at 4:12 Knight g4 to block Queen's attack after check and black King has moved?
+xMrMarcus Simply play d5, opening up the line for the bishop and attack the knight, and striking at the center aswell. The knight is dangerously placed on that g file that the queen is lining up again, if Qxg2 really is a theat, then the knight will just be pinned and attack with moves like h5.
5. B:f7+ Kd8 6. Ng4 d5 7. h3 h5 8. d3 Qh4 9. Ne3, and Black can't play 9 ed 10. ed Q:e4 because 11.c3 gets the knight.
5…Ke7 is better, as the knight can't leave e5 then. 6. B:g8 loses to Q:g2!, so let's try 6. O-O Q:e5 7.B:g8 R:g8 8. c3 Ne6 9. d4 and Q:e4? 10. Re1 Qany 11. d5 gets the piece back, so maybe 10…Qf6 11. e5 Qg6 and white has two pawns and perhaps a positional edge for the piece.
is this similar to the costage trap?
@piouiyutyrterzea1 yes to me this is definitely the best move...what is better than winning the queen or checkmate?
instead of bishop c5.. i might do knight takes c2 if QxN then QxQ ; if Kf1 then Qh1 checkmate..