Omega Shenron will always be a beast in my eyes. His ability to corrupt all of the cosmos just by existing is ridiculous. I can't describe how imposing he felt despite barely trying against the fighters, and this was before he started being a menace. While I don't remember much (a fault of mine, I won't lie), it doesn’t discredit the scary reality of Omega’s fearsome power.
I always liked Omega Shenron's design, it just looks final boss worthy unlike all the gods of destruction in Super. One of the actual canon gods is a freaking clown! Like I have no idea how that universe can take its god of destruction seriously... Going back to Omega Shenron, I wonder how powerful Cell or Buu would become if they absorbed him.
the clown god of destruction was sick. a nod to joker. and his angel to harley. lol... akira was lowkey a fan of dc marvel. which is why jiren hype even became a thing and all that superhero pride trooper jargon stems from as well. or he watched the dethbattle and got fed up. but omega was a GOAT level boss. wish they redo this shadow dragon canon again for dbs. or what ever its future name will be when it does come back. with toyo in control now. anythin can truly happen. rip toriyama tho. EOZ was almost here too...😟😞
0:53 (edit:note that even if we ignore the time not existing in otherworld my argument will still scale to 5-7D i.e low complex-to complex multi ranges with ease) Your also downplaying the feats What omega shenron was performing here is a 2 layers into outerversal feat Yes. The afterlife has been stated Multiples time by Goku in the manga and in daizenchuu four world guide as well as chozenchuu e.t.c to be outside the concept of time or i.e.the Concept of time doesn't exist If concept of time doesn't exist then Concept of space also can't exist by relativity Finally The daizenchuu 4 world guide > The heavenly gods, which are higher than the heavens and transcend the dimensions that cannot be percieved from the human world, are looking down at everything in the world from this earth. And note that in this statement the afterlife's location and trancendence over Dimensionality are mentioned separately The looking down part is the part that explains the location but the trancending Dimensionality part 超次元(Chō-jigen) literally translates to Super dimensional which means transcendental to Dimensionality under the context that the concept of time is non existent That's mean the feats here is Outerversal and the plane of existence separating the afterlife and other realms is 1 layer into outerversal And the macroscosm 2 layers into outerversal Yes omega shenron puts most of fiction on a platter
@@SaiyanScholar yes it's funny when you think about it sugoroku space as you explained is outside the concept of time and does have the concept of time by physics that's blatantly outerversal It's funny how base Goku one shot an outerversal realm easily
In DB Legends' Story mode, Syn Shenron was shown to able to beat Super Saiyan God Shallot (exhausted from fighting Nuova) and SSG Giblet, the SSG twins, who were able to easily defeat Golden Frieza (Resurrection F). Syn Shenron could give SSB Goku (At the start of ToP) a good fight. As Omega Shenron, would be able fight SSB Kaioken x20 Goku (At the start of ToP) a good fight as well. People just underestimate GT characters, and give DBS and God transformations way too much credit.
I mean legends doesn't count as much as it should, I mean cabba ain't even cell saga level start of legends and cabba in anime is way above cell and even buu even though that's stupid so we can't really rely on legends for scaling(even if it scales cabba better than anime and manga)
"A god of destruction." Wonder if Toriyama got the idea for Beerus from this. Tho, the difference is that Beerus has to use the power of destruction for it and must keep the higher order of the universe by destroying only specific things, Omega is unbound entirely, he corrupts EVERYTHING all by his own might.
ssj4 goku being on mui's level now makes sense I thought it was bullshit when I used to hear that argument but right now im convinced that it's actually true
Lol no Goku was about to get murked. Hes was talking that smack but got two pieced by Hirudegarn then he said "DAYUM! If i cant beat him?! Who will?!" Then proceeds to pull out the Ultimate cheat code aka Super Dragon Fist@lakhiarfarhad6302
So glad you made this, I got laughed off of a scaling post for suggesting that ultimate spirit bomb Goku could beat Super Gogeta... my dude he shrugged off a universal + attack with no damage. The guy is basically GT Zeno at that point- even ssj4 Gogeta had to fight full power to stand toe to toe with Omega, and he used so much power he defused before he defeated him... No selling the attack and vaporizing that guy shows he's MANY times stronger than that even. Narratively it's not a debate. I got the whole "battle of the gods was already universal" like come on man, they were TWO ultra powerful beings blasting at each other full power... Omega's AURA itself was universal. anyway thanks for the vid man, people show GT no respect lol
He stood there, because he's a different breed of monster. A great comparison would be how Zamasu was so powerful, his power stretched across timelines.
Lots of fans downplay GT. Seriously Omega Shenron aside you got characters like Baby capable of fully taking over entities even when they've been shown to fight off magic based mind control like Vegeta. Super 17 tearing holes through hell. Nuova who can create suns and his brother Eis who can cause a state of absolute zero (that is when temperatures are so low atoms stop moving). Then of course there's SSJ4. SSJ4 Goku managed to beat Nuova and Eis as well as most the other Shadow Dragons, even breaking out of the absolute zero temperatures. Then there's SSJ4 Gogeta who managed to not only deflect the minus energy ball with a simple kick, but purifying it all in the process, temporarily halting the universal entropy Omega causes by simply existing. Fans that say GT is weaker than Super definitely haven't seen the show. If you like Super more that's a-ok, but saying it's the stronger verse is just inaccurate. Regardless of though GT is beloved to me and SSJ4 might be my all time favorite transformation period
Honestly sayian scholar is just a dragonball lawyer He will pull out the most outstanding yet technically facts to rpove his point and win the case it is astanding
Every time some one downplays this feat they always mention "but it would happen overtime" even if that was the case the fact that the negeative energy can soan across the macrocasm of dragonball would be still impressive similar to how whis and beerus traveled to earth that was their fastest way to travel and if you compare it like that it still is a very impressive feat even if lowballed Side note Omega have his negative energyblast that content that energy into one ppint should blowup the macrocasm instantly even ssj4 gogeta who used his fraction of his power to turn it to possitive eneegy shows this which proves he's a multoversal threat
@Saiyan Scholar: I got a question scholar if Omega Shenlong is this powerful and that it took someone of Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta to literally almost defeat him do you believe that he can overpower someone like say beerus the God of destruction of universe 7 or any of the other G.O.D.S from their respective universes?
I'm usually very critical of GT, but I did think Omega Shenron was a cool final boss design. I wouldn't mind seeing Super redo the corrupted dragonballs story, with a major change -- make it the Super Dragonballs, not earth''s ones. As usual, GT's arc had a big plothole; the power of earth's Dragonballs were already surpassed way back in og Dragonball (Piccolo Daimao literally blew Shenron apart), so it makes no sense for these powerful characters to be spawned from them. But it would make sense with the Super Dragonballs, which haven't been surpassed yet. Could see newer designs for the other 6 too, and have them fight other characters (Piccolo Vs Su Shenron, for example, would be a perfect match).
The thumbnail appears to suggest that he's flipping us off so quickly that our eyes cant even see it!! 🤔🤔
Omega Shenron will always be a beast in my eyes. His ability to corrupt all of the cosmos just by existing is ridiculous. I can't describe how imposing he felt despite barely trying against the fighters, and this was before he started being a menace. While I don't remember much (a fault of mine, I won't lie), it doesn’t discredit the scary reality of Omega’s fearsome power.
If they ever redo gt ideas then I hope they do the evil dragons justice
Between this feat and Super 17 merging two worlds into one, I'd say GT is terribly underrated.
As someone who recently rewatched it, it’s not. It’s good in some areas and absolutely abysmal in the rest
@@drewwilson9938 they meant power wise
This is exactly why no DB fan should ever sleep on Omega Shenron. He is the DEFINITION of "final boss".
Bro was destroying a 5D structure by standing.
"Standing still. STAAAAAANDING STILL!"
Great video
Omega just standing still is OP
Omega Shenron was gassed up on that Minus Energy, Black Smoke Dragoon pack and it had him feeling like SumperMan
Omega sheron fights dirty , even more than Frieza, that's what make him a good villain.
One of my favorite DBGT Villains. Thanks for making this video. Keep up the good work. Have a wonderful day Saiyan Scholar.
Jiren: I will destroy you!
Omega Shenron: Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru
Jiren: Nani?!
Omega Shinron: *_Stands still and kills Jiren_* What a disgrace.
Sike.........
Jiren blinks
@@kakarot9309and dies lol
I liken Omega destroying it all by standing to Darkseid destroying the multiverse by “falling into it” or whatever the exact quote is
I always liked Omega Shenron's design, it just looks final boss worthy unlike all the gods of destruction in Super. One of the actual canon gods is a freaking clown! Like I have no idea how that universe can take its god of destruction seriously...
Going back to Omega Shenron, I wonder how powerful Cell or Buu would become if they absorbed him.
Could Cell even handle the power? I mean Goku was able to get out of his body via Cell's tail after getting absorbed.
the clown god of destruction was sick. a nod to joker. and his angel to harley. lol...
akira was lowkey a fan of dc marvel. which is why jiren hype even became a thing
and all that superhero pride trooper jargon stems from as well. or he watched the
dethbattle and got fed up.
but omega was a GOAT level boss. wish they redo this shadow dragon canon again for dbs. or what
ever its future name will be when it does come back. with toyo in control now. anythin can truly happen.
rip toriyama tho. EOZ was almost here too...😟😞
His design got shit on in dragon ball heroes though
0:53
(edit:note that even if we ignore the time not existing in otherworld my argument will still scale to 5-7D i.e low complex-to complex multi ranges with ease)
Your also downplaying the feats
What omega shenron was performing here is a
2 layers into outerversal feat
Yes.
The afterlife has been stated Multiples time by Goku in the manga and in daizenchuu four world guide as well as chozenchuu e.t.c to be outside the concept of time or i.e.the Concept of time doesn't exist
If concept of time doesn't exist then Concept of space also can't exist by relativity
Finally
The daizenchuu 4 world guide
> The heavenly gods, which are higher than the heavens and transcend the dimensions that cannot be percieved from the human world, are looking down at everything in the world from this earth.
And note that in this statement the afterlife's location and trancendence over Dimensionality are mentioned separately
The looking down part is the part that explains the location but the trancending Dimensionality part
超次元(Chō-jigen) literally translates to Super dimensional which means transcendental to Dimensionality under the context that the concept of time is non existent
That's mean the feats here is
Outerversal and the plane of existence separating the afterlife and other realms is 1 layer into outerversal
And the macroscosm
2 layers into outerversal
Yes omega shenron puts most of fiction on a platter
Good extra information! Thank you
@@SaiyanScholar yes it's funny when you think about it sugoroku space as you explained is outside the concept of time and does have the concept of time by physics that's blatantly outerversal
It's funny how base Goku one shot an outerversal realm easily
In DB Legends' Story mode, Syn Shenron was shown to able to beat Super Saiyan God Shallot (exhausted from fighting Nuova) and SSG Giblet, the SSG twins, who were able to easily defeat Golden Frieza (Resurrection F). Syn Shenron could give SSB Goku (At the start of ToP) a good fight. As Omega Shenron, would be able fight SSB Kaioken x20 Goku (At the start of ToP) a good fight as well. People just underestimate GT characters, and give DBS and God transformations way too much credit.
I mean legends doesn't count as much as it should, I mean cabba ain't even cell saga level start of legends and cabba in anime is way above cell and even buu even though that's stupid so we can't really rely on legends for scaling(even if it scales cabba better than anime and manga)
Sayain scholar i love ur videos so much about dragonball thx❤
"A god of destruction." Wonder if Toriyama got the idea for Beerus from this.
Tho, the difference is that Beerus has to use the power of destruction for it and must keep the higher order of the universe by destroying only specific things, Omega is unbound entirely, he corrupts EVERYTHING all by his own might.
ssj4 goku being on mui's level now makes sense
I thought it was bullshit when I used to hear that argument but right now im convinced that it's actually true
And where is your proof kiddo? None! Super Saiyan God is much more powerful than ss4.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jafsjafs8820 did you not see the video at all? Not to mention that goku fused with the dragon balls at the end of gt
@@AlexPlayzWasTaken again where is your proof kiddo? None! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jafsjafs8820They're giving you proof and you're dismissing it. Why don't you actually listen to the proof in your screen?
@@CornaOnTheCob again where is that proof kiddo? None! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Kibitokai wants to leave immediately. I mean where is he planning on going Universe 6"
That's good writing right there 👏 👍
Cheers 🍻
Omega shenron is the only villain that smart enough to not allowing Goku and vegeta do the fusion dance Lol
Goku in GT has broly potential,bro literally out grown a hybrid Gohan who was training constantly!! How 🤔
@lakhiarfarhad6302 yeah movie Goku’s just built different. That’s why Janemba’s so OP and Gogeta? Fuhgeddaboutit
Lol no Goku was about to get murked. Hes was talking that smack but got two pieced by Hirudegarn then he said "DAYUM! If i cant beat him?! Who will?!"
Then proceeds to pull out the Ultimate cheat code aka Super Dragon Fist@lakhiarfarhad6302
So glad you made this, I got laughed off of a scaling post for suggesting that ultimate spirit bomb Goku could beat Super Gogeta... my dude he shrugged off a universal + attack with no damage. The guy is basically GT Zeno at that point- even ssj4 Gogeta had to fight full power to stand toe to toe with Omega, and he used so much power he defused before he defeated him... No selling the attack and vaporizing that guy shows he's MANY times stronger than that even. Narratively it's not a debate. I got the whole "battle of the gods was already universal" like come on man, they were TWO ultra powerful beings blasting at each other full power... Omega's AURA itself was universal. anyway thanks for the vid man, people show GT no respect lol
And super fans said he is BoG fodder smh
They are in denial. When you bring them evidence they deny it and call you names. That’s super fans for ya
If omega shenron was that strong, imagine how powerful ss4 gogeta must have been
He stood there, because he's a different breed of monster.
A great comparison would be how Zamasu was so powerful, his power stretched across timelines.
Lots of fans downplay GT. Seriously Omega Shenron aside you got characters like Baby capable of fully taking over entities even when they've been shown to fight off magic based mind control like Vegeta. Super 17 tearing holes through hell. Nuova who can create suns and his brother Eis who can cause a state of absolute zero (that is when temperatures are so low atoms stop moving). Then of course there's SSJ4. SSJ4 Goku managed to beat Nuova and Eis as well as most the other Shadow Dragons, even breaking out of the absolute zero temperatures. Then there's SSJ4 Gogeta who managed to not only deflect the minus energy ball with a simple kick, but purifying it all in the process, temporarily halting the universal entropy Omega causes by simply existing. Fans that say GT is weaker than Super definitely haven't seen the show. If you like Super more that's a-ok, but saying it's the stronger verse is just inaccurate. Regardless of though GT is beloved to me and SSJ4 might be my all time favorite transformation period
And all movies are cannon to GT
Honestly sayian scholar is just a dragonball lawyer
He will pull out the most outstanding yet technically facts to rpove his point and win the case it is astanding
Hes just standing there... menacingly
Attacks? Nah, we got 👣🦶🦶🦶🦶
I really need to see a what if situation of omega Shenron vs Beerus.
Hello Bro Could You Make one of these videos of cell max plssss
He’s just standing there… MENACINGLY!
He even stood still in the face of those ∆@&π circles and arrows. A power to behold indeed.
He would one shot the gods in super for a fact
Omega my goat 🗣️🙏
You the man!!!!
1:40 Bro wanted to be Beerus, before he ever was a thing.
Omega Shenron was a great concept and a great villain. I hope he becomes canon
Omega Shenron stood still because trash is trash
4:28 Sus from Among Us and Sussy Baka.
Nice
Nobody in GT is multiversal
That's incorrect, Sir. Respectfully, OFC.
Every time some one downplays this feat they always mention "but it would happen overtime" even if that was the case the fact that the negeative energy can soan across the macrocasm of dragonball would be still impressive similar to how whis and beerus traveled to earth that was their fastest way to travel and if you compare it like that it still is a very impressive feat even if lowballed
Side note
Omega have his negative energyblast that content that energy into one ppint should blowup the macrocasm instantly even ssj4 gogeta who used his fraction of his power to turn it to possitive eneegy shows this which proves he's a multoversal threat
Yeah that's pretty scary like goddam.
@Saiyan Scholar: I got a question scholar if Omega Shenlong is this powerful and that it took someone of Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta to literally almost defeat him do you believe that he can overpower someone like say beerus the God of destruction of universe 7 or any of the other G.O.D.S from their respective universes?
Yes
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@zackiebullock3614Still not beating super overall tho
@@reachagoal No kiddo. cry and cope more. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@zackiebullock3614 and where is your proof kiddo? None! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The fact that you can scale raditz to 5D is crazy lol. Omega shenron and battle of gods Goku can be scaled higher.
I'm usually very critical of GT, but I did think Omega Shenron was a cool final boss design. I wouldn't mind seeing Super redo the corrupted dragonballs story, with a major change -- make it the Super Dragonballs, not earth''s ones. As usual, GT's arc had a big plothole; the power of earth's Dragonballs were already surpassed way back in og Dragonball (Piccolo Daimao literally blew Shenron apart), so it makes no sense for these powerful characters to be spawned from them.
But it would make sense with the Super Dragonballs, which haven't been surpassed yet. Could see newer designs for the other 6 too, and have them fight other characters (Piccolo Vs Su Shenron, for example, would be a perfect match).
The day the Earth stood still...
2:48 Why is bro missing a dragon ball?
He lost it and I think Goku might have ate it
omega shenron>>>>>>>>>>the zenos
Cry and cope more kiddo.
DBS Krillin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> omega shenron. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jafsjafs8820 ignoring that thank you
@@cyberdemon6517 then dont comment kiddo. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@cyberdemon6517 the fact that you are ignoring it proves of what you are kiddo. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jafsjafs8820 you know i wonder why you go out of your way to provoke drama with strangers on the internet
Cause He releasing negative energy would go unto rot and destroy db universe 7.
Compared to Super, GT honestly had the better concepts,but had the worst execution.
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