How to Beat a Pusher with Modern Tennis Footwork
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Beating a pusher can be a very, very tough ask for a rec player. This video shows you how you can use modern tennis footwork to attack this type of player and make beating a pusher a relatively simple affair.
A pusher is someone who gets everything back (often by moonballing) and wins when you start making mistakes. These errors typically happen when the rec player -- in an effort to attack the pusher -- starts to overhit.
By using modern tennis footwork -- specifically the walking and hopping steps -- you can add pace and weight to your shots without having to swing aggressively. This lets you attack yet still play a high-percentage game.
This video also introduces the concept of profiling -- evaluating your opponent's strengths and weaknesses and devising a plan of attack.
I would like you guys to actually simulate a real pusher, I know you guys just floated lazy balls to try and demonstrate what to do, but sure at that pace anyone can do it.
A good pusher you cannot beat with what you mentioned, maybe 2.0 pusher, but not a 3.5 or higher one. If you create a video with a bit more actual hitting if possible using a real pusher at a 3.0 to 4.0 level....
raysurx2010 take a video of me! Lol
You're not a pusher Larry. :)
Sorry but a good pusher with topspin and moonballs is very hard to beat. Good pushers kills you with winners if you return short balls, or even if you come up to the net agains his drive, he will easily pass you. If your a hard-agresive base line player, with solid ground strokes, the best chance is to be patient and build the point step by step waiting your moment to hit a winner. Dont lose your cool, and dont try to hit winners in disadvantage positions. Play neutral shots or defensive shots when you cannot atack, and come up to the net against the pusher's backhand. But when you are attacking the point and you have the control, dont lose your chance. Ofc play that way perfectly is very dificult, if was easy everybody could play like Nole or Rafa.
a pusher that actually plays tennis and not volleyball is very dangerous, this guys play so slow that all the talking is obsolete. any player above 3.0 can take advantage of those balloons.
They are doing it for the purpose of a tutorial. Duh!!!
then they fail because you have to give the student the real view of the situation and how those shots can cause problems to the opponent. their playing is obsolete for what they are explaining. sorry.
I completely agree with you. This is like...a 2.5 pusher. If it was a tutorial it should be a bit higher level. 3.5-4.0ish, where you see the most pushers.
Excatly. the dangerous pushers are in the 3.5 - 5.0 level. even at the ATP some players use that style like Gilles Simon, Simon mixes pushing with attack pretty cleverly.
MrCappon1111 At a high level they are now considered a "Counterpuncher."
"How to Beat a Bad* Pusher with Modern Tennis Footwork"
I played a 6'4" LEFTY pusher who played like Gael Monfils and dominated him. I'm only 5'9". here's how: (1) BE patient (2) use aggressive FOOTWORK used in this video. (3) if you push back, push to his or her weaker side. (4) hit short angles or close to the body. A pusher HATES that. (5) IF you come into the net, do so on a short angle, expect a short lob so get to the service line and put it away or make him run. (6) KEEP THEM RUNNING! I won by using the tips in this video.
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B.U.d Music What’s a pusher?
i played a pusher today and he was just frustrating to play... i lost 3-6, 4-6 and all he would do was hit balls with absolutely no pace and hit really short balls that forced me to go to the net. After he forced me to the net he would just perfectly lob me every time.... T_T this video makes it seem like beating pushers is an easy and simple thing...
because it is... slice approach come to the net.... its hard to hit great lobs off of slice approaches... he will either give you a volley or a high floating ball... PUT IT AWAY
Same thing happened to me today David. Very frustrating. She was a pusher and she'd hit these really wimpy, short balls and draw me to the net where I could put it away, and I'd hit what I'd think was a winner and she'd return it every time and lob it right over my head. I guess I need to work on attacking those short balls better. The worst part is that she had horrible strokes, really no weapons at all (aside from being consistent and returning everything under the sun!) and terrible form. To the casual observer, you'd think she was a beginner. I knew not to underestimate her though because I've played people like her before. Can't assume you're gonna cream the person because the strokes aren't pretty. AND YET I STILL LOST.
david1909 You just need someone to feed you some balls during practice so you can gain more confidence hitting winners. The biggest reason why players struggle against pushers is because they just can't put away shots properly and consistently or they just don't feel comfortable or confident in a match to do it...the difference in confidence in your game and the mental side from practice to a match is huge....players developing their game can never grasp and train that feeling until they step back on the court for another match which usually results in another loss, so hence why any sort of match practice can be of huge help even if it results in a lot of losses at first.
Regardless, if you are in a situation where you can't hit a winner against a pusher, then take the time to develop a great slice as rwarnicke pointed out, you can turn the tables on a pusher by hitting a short slice which will either cause a weak reply and give you a sitting duck at the net or he'll run back to the baseline which will give you an opportunity to attack when he is crossing "no man's land".
Hakeem Al-Kazak I think you're 100% correct Hakeem in everything you said right here. I've since played a number of matches and my confidence is improving and I'm getting better at playing people like this.
Sarah Smith for sure, you just can't get discouraged when you miss especially against a pusher, gotta keep going for it.
"modern footwork" lol - like they invented some new footwork- lol lol
I lost 6-3, 6-1 to one of these specimens. I played the guy again last night after watching this video a couple times and practicing a little bit. I beat him 6-1, 6-2. What a difference! I'm gonna keep watching your videos, they definitely work.
That's not really pushing. That's like how some beginner players just keep floating the ball high, they never seem to miss but you can rush them into hitting short balls and come in to finish. It's not necessary that the pusher will just give you high loopy balls without much work. I push when I play with a guy who is my equal in movement, maybe a bit better. But his forehand is less reliable than mine so I just keep hitting solid well placed shots targeting his forehand without actually ever pulling the trigger. I even reduce the pace a bit to force him to make his own pace (and thereby induce an unforced error). When playing that kind of pushing, I suppose you need to make your first shot - be it your serve or return of serve as applicable - count. If you can take control of the point with a good serve or ROS, you can have the pusher on the run and win the point. Once you let him get into his pushing rhythm, it's much harder to find a winner off the ground.
Just think of the pusher as you do a "drug pusher." Just say no!!! Disrupt their rhythm by not allowing such illegal activity around the court. Attack early and often and so soon enough you'll break them down. City safe once again!!
The best way to beat Pushers is to be a better Pusher.
thats a horrible way to beat a pusher... thats playing into his game... if you push back the points are longer and the match becomes a lot longer if you are both consistent
Greg Dalit NEVER play a pusher game. Don't go down to their level because they have more experience pushing
rwarnicke I mean it depends on the player, I beat this pusher 7-5 6-3 all because I started pushing him back, the match lasted like 2 hrs tho lol
The other day i beat a pusher 6-1 6-1 playing in the line more agressive and finishing the points in the net and imposing my power
I feel like they oversimplified the pusher here. This is more like a 3.5 NTRP pusher. Real pushers 4.5 dont miss for a reason because they are fast and only crumble to hard surgical shots. Any advice to beat the real pushers ?
That's so true. Pushers are usually quick and don't have such bad technique. If you want to beat a pusher you can probably serve n' volley some times to get some easy points and screw their plans
serve and volley is a good strategy, but my pusher has some umph on his returns, he redirects very well with much momentum sometimes. The only reason I call him a pusher because he really does push the ball (short backswing but more fuller afterswing) and he gets everything shoulder high, not MOONBALLS. And the guy might as well be called pong, cheetah, italian stallion, anything, he gets to anything.
I tend to stop hitting my hard flat serves as they only come back really hard anyway, and switch to 70-80% kick serve on my first serve (and 20-30% slice/flat to keep them on their toes) to the body or backhand. Result is much weaker returns that I can immediately move in and put the pressure on.
I love tennis. Like its life to me right now.
+mrslapside "tennis guys" or "tennis, guys"?
Tennis, guys. lol
mrslapside I love the sport as well. It is amazing!
ohhh maaaaan, spelling beat my high hopes of winning this match
I love tennis girls too.
Great video, Will and Yann. As I have gotten more experienced, I have to say that I have a lot more respect for pushers. Pushers, at a higher level, are often players who have not trained properly, yet often through a lot of practice, experience, and hand eye coordination are able to keep balls in play with a very low rate of error. These people are really important for players who are training because they become a very good test of skills for the 3.5-4.0 player looking to get better.
I hate a pusher! Me too I play so often a pusher and always lose. My level goes down and I don't understand why. I'm agressive player and I'm good on the net BUT all of my skills disappear when I play a pusher. This video is very helpful for me :)
i enjoyed the comments here. Try this: hit deep moonballs into a player's backhand corner - lots of them. One after another. They will miss them eventually !! I used this with success. Then from time to time blast hard shots. Good luck !!
From my experience it's true you can't beat a pusher that's a higher level than you but you probably can't beat most players that are at a higher level than you anyway. The last pusher I played was my level and he almost took me out. My strategy was to relax and hit medium shots which was almost playing his game but I knew if I tried to hard I would certainly lose. I won a close first set..he won the 2nd set pretty easily 6-3 and then for the final set I clamped down on my consistency. I was determined to at least keep the ball alive and move him around as much as possible. Halfway through the 3rd set I could tell he was finally getting tired, after all it was our 3rd hour! I was tired too but I told myself this shit was personal. He started making mistakes and I won 6-3. I know this wasn't the best strategy and man our tennis really must've looked bad to anyone that would dare watch such a pathetic match of 3.5 players moonballing all night.
I will say I do like this video where they move their feet more, hit the ball to the pusher's weak side and move in on his weaker shots and hit either a better angle or an overhead. There are all sorts of styles out there I just think the more you play, the more you practice, the more you relax and get your head straight you can have a lot of success against these tough pushers. Also, if you do lose to them a few times don't let it get you down, I don't think it's really tennis anyway..just a silly way to eek out a few W's but never really winning tournaments. Don't let anyone take away the fun from you, we're all pretty much just hacks so go out and play nice and friendly, win most of your matches and promote the sport in a good way. There are too many guys out there that are antisocial and try to ruin the fun because they live in their parents basement. It's a shame but this is what's happened to recreational tennis over the years.
Neither Rafa nor Murray is a pusher. There are no pushers at the pro level. Pushing is a strategy that works up to the intermediate level... get more advanced than that and it's not viable.
On the pro tour you have counterpunchers... Hewitt, Murray (although he's got a lot of firepower when he wants it). Rafa has become a very aggressive, all-court player. However, earlier in his career I think it's fair to say he was a counterpuncher.
There should be a law for U.S.T.A players that if your opponent is not equal to you in ground strokes and/or overall performance, then they shouldn't be allowed to play you, kind of like how guys aren't allowed to play with women in some teams. That way, pushers can face other pushers, and real tennis players can start actually getting challenged.
+Mike Preise ...And players who are taller than 6 foot 4 inches should only be allowed to serve underhand.....Anybody who loses to a pusher sucks and simply needs to get better and quit bitching.
Nice of you to say you don't hate pushers but we doubt you respect that game style (and subsequently believe that this is a beautiful strategy).
Hitting a moon ball when one is in difficulty in order to buy time is acceptable (and even ATP players do it) but playing moon balls consistently with no pace is a disgrace for the game of tennis.
Often pushers are people with good physical condition that never learnt tennis strokes and don't know much about the technique... however they are strategically strong and have a good eye on the game. It is beneficial for non-pushers to take a challenge once in a while with those people in order to practice specific strokes but playing them too much will destroy your game as well as your mental.
The best we can do to pushers is beat them, encourage them to go take some tennis lessons and refuse to play them until they know how to knock...
Never ever sink down to the pusher's level, because at such low level he beats you with his routine.
Slice, move in, volley, Done
Slice, move in ...moon ball , you done.
Alexey short angle, drop volley... now your done ✅
Reggie Noble After short angle i will not give you the chance to voley..you done.🤫
Alexey I’m following my shot, you’re hitting up below the net line (I took your power away from you) how are you passing or lobbing me? Your lob will be short (overhead), if you get the short volley and I’m in front of it, you will try to pass me cross court angle (only shot left).
Oh BTW my UTR is 10.0 and I have a 5.0 rating and teach tennis 30+ hrs a week for 20+years. Still think you got me?
Also to be a pusher you take balls on the fall, to push up, which means you’re playing deep, you’re not getting my short angle.
When I find myself playing against a pusher I find that a slice approach and volley is the most efficient and consistent way to beat a pusher,and if all else fails you may have to stoop to the slowness of a pushers game until things start to pick up for you.
Yea, personally i try to do do slices with no pace so it makes it harder to lob the ball back to the baseline and i can take it mid court with either a drop shot or a shot to the corner
Well how come he beat Djokovic on hard court in Montreal?
What's funny is Nadal early on in his career was a pusher and he beat alot of people that way so being a pusher is indeed doable on the pro circuit because it's been done many times a Counter puncher could be viewed as a pusher
" pusher" is code for someone who beats you because they let you hit the error.
Radnally really they are weak players who don't respect the game or try to learn the proper way to hit strokes. They want to frustrate players who are trying to learn. But once you learn how to take down the pusher they are all the same and all have no real talent .
Nadal is a pusher! He does a lot of moon balls too! Move Nadal around and get a easy put away!
HW2800
He’s a aggressive counter puncher. Nadal goes for winners and is aggressive. Pushers don’t do that.
I play a pusher regularly and I always lose. I've not even taken a set off him. He makes very few errors and works his opponents around the court. Unfortunately I'm not very good at volleying, therefore until that side of my game improves, I'll just have to find some sort of way at beating him from the baseline.
Omar, if you play that guy more than 1/4 of your time on court you will damage your game and also start taking big defeats from knockers...
How do you mean?
Omar Abdulgani If you play him to often you will get used to slow pace high strokes and when you will play a knocker, shots will come faster, potentially lower. You will not be used to that anymore and you will miss your strokes.
Tim Brown That's a great point. Thank you for the advice. I've only been playing since last summer so I'm still trying to work on a few aspects of my game. I'll take all the advice I can get :)
Omar Abdulgani one thing i like to tell myself when I play a pusher is to hit 10-15 balls back. Sometimes you can easily get impatient knowing they will get every ball back. I like to keep them moving. Although they will get almost everything back, make them work for it. Move them around the court from side to side and also mix it up by hitting a slice that stays low and makes them move instead of getting comfortable around the baseline. It takes a lot of patience to do this but it will allow for an opening or a short ball which will put you on the offensive.
Thanks for the video! I managed to pull out a satisfying win against a friend of mine who's a real pusher with a score of 7-6, 4-6, 7-6, 2-6, 6-2.
Djokovic is also a pusher too! Just move Djokovic around for an easy put away shot!
HW2800
He’s a aggressive counter puncher. Not all defensive players are “pushers”.
A player can play defensive 60% of the time, but he aggressive 40% of the time and not be called a pusher. Best example is Justine henin. One of the best counter punchers in wta history. A pusher would be someone like Radwanska.
As a pusher I must say I love when they start trying to push and fall into my rhythm. You know you have them once they start doing that because they start to become lazy. The biggest problem most people have against pushers is that they lack the pace and spin to produce their own consistent shots without help from their opponent hitting harder. And they don't like to come in usually which works really well against most pushers.
Thumbs up if you are a pusher
+Lucas Moreira I hit my forehands flat, but I have to admit I love that loopy deep slice that pegs them back behind the baseline ;)
I love this teacher , I play well tennis and always pusher made my made so frustrated and You end giving points free . Thank you for the lesson , now I know what is a pusher and know how to control him .
I enjoyed the video, but these guys didn't simulate any legit scenario. . IMO, depending on what your working with, and the given level, if it feels like your playing a "pusher" , your weapons or strong point of your game isn't working enough to dominate them so you gotta pull out the bag, so rule #1 you have to be in shape, you gotta mix it up with them to some degree. . Mix it up by sometimes shortening points and other times playing long points.. really study how the pusher hits, is their stance open or closed, how do they react on the move or handle high backhand / low backhand etc.. can you attack them on 2nd serve, again depends on what your working with, but a drop shot is key.. remember I always think of shot sequences, how does my opponent play shots 1-3, 4-6, 7-10, etc, look for patterns or combination that works, everyone has a ball they prefer to play and would rather not but have to
🎾🎾Learn to hit early on the rise like Agassi against a pusher. It cuts their reaction time in half with a lot of pace and not requiring you to generate all the pace/power. A lot play pushers waiting for the ball to drop and backing up deep. Even worse they hit the ball while moving backwards instead of always moving forward through the hit.
When I was pretty young playing, I absolutely hated playing "pushers" to the point where I wanted to quit. But when I finally started getting older, I found myself hitting a bigger ball, and basically outpowering the pushers. The best technique that works for me is get to that net asap. Once you put pressure on them with a nice approach shot, you'll find some many easy volleys or overheads to put away. Great video though, wish I would of seen this when I was younger.
I get the idea.. but the thing is... the pushers that I've met actually have great court coverage. They don't casually walk to the ball. They are happy to run everything down. Not every ball is a moon ball. They will chip, dink, slice all over the court.
If you have a shitty overhead then it will be very hard for you to beat a pusher. These guys can lob VERY well which really thwarts your attacks into the net. Once you start missing a few overheads then you press trying to hit ground stroke winners and approach shots. The unforced errors add up. Frustration rises. Total collapse and capitulation follows. Victory to the guy who keeps the ball in play.
What if you are playing a Pusher with quick feet? I played this tall and fast Pusher either dink/drop shot or moonball the ball back with the ugliest strokes. I was so mentally drained at the end. :(((
My base mentality in singles is to not give my opponent free points. Every ball comes back. That’s my base. That said, I hit with pretty heavy topspin on both sides, usually cross court with lots of net clearance trying to keep it deep. Percentage tennis. Some might call that pushing. I don’t care. Where I would differ is that I want to come forward and end points when the odds are in my favor. I don’t want to prolong the point and let my opponent off the hook by hitting too safe of a rally ball if the opponent is in a bad spot.
I live 2 hours from houston...I am 3.5, Now a 4.0.....most consider me a pusher.....I would love to be demonstrated and of course learn a few things...
Fuzzy yellow balls 😂😂😂
Funny but usually pushers aren't real. See when we disguise what our strengths are, we will look like pushers hitting little topspin and not hitting our hardest serves. One way I can tell is to hit slice / top / slice / top back and see how that frustrates the player. Pushers hate that. I look like a pusher sometimes but then break out the true game.
Can't you guys just play out a point first and THEN, only start explaining. People want too see an illustration so that when you explain, people would have a clearer idea of what is actually happening or meant to emphasize on.
get racquet back early and hold it long as possible before swinging, like pros, opposite of pushing.
IOW don't let him or her see where it's going. this does take footwork too.
It basically comes down to what level you're at. If the pusher is at a higher level than you, you will lose, no matter what you try until you can get your game to the next level. This is simply because your opponent (pusher or not) will have better consistency, control of the ball, feel and touch, movement, speed, etc..
If both are at the same level, you can try different tactics to try to win, and this video gives one good advice, but the thing is you should play this way always regardless of opponent. You have to come to the ball and not let it come to you. Even in defensive position, you always have to keep in mind that you need to be able to get to the ball quickly and not let yourself being pushed back.
A lot of players made the mistake of judging the opponent by the look of his shots or strategy, so they got quite angry when losing to a game they judge to be inferior to theirs. The bottom line is if you lose, the other guy does at least one or more things better than you in that match. I lost a match to a guy playing the pushing style even though I was able to deal with it techniquely, but the reason I lost was because I lost my cool after the guy called just about every of my shot that was on the line, or even right inside the line, out. A lot of calls like that happened on game point for me (we were playing no ad, 8 game set). When I protested a call that was clearly inside the line, he would offer to replay the point, so I started getting frustrated, hitting harder and taking more risk trying to finish points and then my errors mounted and lost. But still he was doing something better than I did that day, and that was making me lose my cool. A better strategy for me would have been to protest all points that were closed and take up his offer to replay all of them instead of getting frustrated.
Exactly right. You only loose if someone is better than you on that day.
This is so low level lmao
just came back from a tournament were I was beaten twice by such a pusher. Keep you posted - will try next week again. It was so fustrating - took to much risk and did the errors.
How to beat David Ferrer and Gilles Simon.
+Anthony Kernich You probably have at least 10000 other questions to solve before you get to this one.
there are virtually no pushers in the tour. They all have full swings, and a complete game, not just get the ball back. Getting the ball back effectively to put your opponent in a defensive position is a MUST for OPEN play. Aggressive consistency is a must, even on the run.
Only 3 elements are missing in this video: tennis, modern and footwork...
Learn to play FAST and STEADY. Too many players increase swing speed and foot speed together.
defending nadal again...you are not neutral...as soon as you find roger's first fault, you try to dump roger with nadal who cheat in regular basis...you dont criticize nadal on his cheating video but try to say everybody is cheater not only nadal...thats not neutral....
not sure if I know of any pusher type players at the pro tennis level - only one that comes to mind is Wozniacki, seems like she doesn't have enough power to hurt most players, but she wins by simply keeping the ball in play and having the other player make the error. Still crazy how she never won a grand slam yet became #1. And yea, Nadal a pusher? That is ridiculous. Like you say, that guys topspin shot is crazy.
I'm a proud pusher. All the people who say "I'm a better player but I keep losing to bad pushers" can check the scoreboard ✊
I LOVE PUSHERS! WHAT U SAID MAKES SENSE BUT WHY MAKE LIFE DIFFICULT! ALL U DO WITH A PUSHER IS PLAY A FEW BALLS TO A PUSHER TILL U GET A CHANCE TO HIT IT HARD!!!! THAT IS THE WORD! U HIT IT SOMEWHERE WHERE HE CAN NOT REACH THE BALL OR HE GETS IT BACK SHORT AND THEN JUST PUT THE BALL AWAY! OF COURSE U HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ALSO VOLLEY! ROGER LEE TENNIS COACH AND I.T.F CHAMPION!
I already said stat tells nadal is a pusher....you no neutral....cause you dump all other innocent player with cheater nadal...your nadal fan who just accept some truth not as much biggot as other typical nadal fans...
Lawlz, I do think Nadal has become more aggressive lately, but he was definitely a pusher during his rise to the top. Also, you forgot wiping his arms with a towel and delaying every other point.
And as a pusher, how do you beat someone who wants to beat a busher?
+Someone Else Don't be a pusher.
what is a pusher?
I never had a problem with pushers. I just hit winners or volley. They can never hurt me so no pressure. I can hit winners at any time. I'll eat pushers for lunch compared to hard hitters.
stop defending nadal if your neutral... nadal stat just show he is a pusher...he depends on opponents errors as for getting points than making winners himself...
Pushers exist a lot in High School tennis. I think the hardest obstacle while facing them is the mental aspect. Its VERY frustrating seeing somebody with terrible form win a lot of points.
I have a question how do you deal with a person who hits tons of Slice shots.. considering im pretty new. i dont know exactly how to return majority of the shots. thanks.
This is not usable for mid level player, this game too slow, not realistic
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yeah sounds like nadal...nadal has always less winners and win by opponent's errors....He hit lobbing balls...
There is no pusher in the atp, pusher do not use a full swing, they use half swing to push the ball. It means that pusher balls are all about placement. They generally hit a ball very deep, slow and high(kind of like a lob) and make it harder for you to be aggresive. Pusher works best against hard hitters that tends to make more unforced error than winners. I've played with pusher before and it is very annoying, you have to be good at net or drive volley to beat the best of them.
That's a bit harsh! The top players are in the top rankings because they execute these simple tips extremely well. These tips are not just for beginners, they apply at the top level too.
And just because these tips are a big help to recreational players, how does that make the tips bullshit? Everyone has to start somewhere, and the more people you get playing tennis, raises the profile of the sport nationwide.
Not everyone can afford tennis coaches. These youtube tips serve a valuable role!
That your opinion! Djokovic has basic weakness in his game. First, he doe not seem to cover the court very well like Donald Young does. Secondly, he lacks confidences in his game. Thirdly, he makes errors in his short game. Fourthly, his return game leaves a lot to be desire.
It seems to me that Djokovic needs to get some high level drills to work on his game possibly have a year's worth of 3.0-3.5 level group drill sessions would go along way to improve his game and footwork!
No mate, nadal is a counterpuncher, just look at nadal in the 2010 us open which is perfect example. A pusher can never hit 5000 rpm and a pusher has no weapons. Nadal has one of the best forehands, thus you can't call him a pusher. Nadal is capable of generating his own pace. Professional pushers are like simon and tomic who have no weapons and can only generate pace from their opponenets
pushers are annoying, you cant do much but try to get better angles with your shots or keep beating them down. Try an inside-out crosscourt forehand to his backhand (assuming he's a righty) to get the ball going off the court. He will likely have to slice the return if he plays two handed bh like most pushers and then you can approach the net for the kill, if executed correctly. keep in mind, keep doing that tactic and he WILL lob.
just my two cents.
I am neutral, I'm just stating the facts, nadal is a counterpuncher not a pusher. Clearly you don't know the difference. Nadal can hit winners when the balls are short and put it away. Pushers don't do that, they simply PUSH the ball. If you still don't know the difference, they search it online.......NO PUSHER CAN BEAT FEDERER, federer with his playstyle cannot possibly lose to a pusher unless someone chop his legs off..........
Am the only one on youtube who thinks 90% of these teaching videos are bullshit? A completly joke? These tips are for beginners weekend club players ... they´re the only ones replying here like " oh thanks, i will do that" ... or "good stuff" ... or they will tell you about a match he played in the last weekend .. and all that stuff! U r not emulating a pusher, you r emulating a balloonist that doesn´t play tennis ... and the other character is a guy with a little more time spent on the court.
"A lot of pace" is relative... You don't win a match against a good player by just bringing the ball back into the middle of the court. And by playing with a lot of pace, it will be easier for your opponent to just give back the pace YOU created and this takes time away from you. Imagine your opponent is tall and often approaches the net. You can't just bring the ball back, you will need to play a passing shot or a topspin lob. If you're able to do THAT, you are a grinder, like David Ferrer.
Grind's are worse....they do the same as pushers but with no height....so no power and get everything back....but remeber....people playing resetting shots are resetting...not grinding....if your in trouble you hit high and deep...(this goes both ways) if someone hits a high ball and its deep just stand under the bounce...and hit to the opposite corner so they cant reset into position
Pushers are annoying but for me it was only once, the first time i played a pusher i lost the match. From then on, i have never lost against one. I watched this vid, and worked on my accuracy alot and a bit of footwork, mainly perfecting my inside-in and inside-out forehands because its so easy to hit that sort of shot and make the person run (haha) but I also did some work on rising shots, It'll be your friend when u want to come to the net quick and fast. Just sharing some advice also.
I lost to a fxxking pusher today, in a 3 setter, the longest match I've ever played(more than 3 hrs), I tried the tips and modern footwork that they taught us here, actually it really works, but the problem is just as Young said, their "ugly style" actually slow u down, so once u lose ur focus, u will again play in their pace. Actually I should have won today's match, because the guy is not only a pusher, but also a cheater, I don't mind losing to a pusher, but lost to a cheater really upset me
very nice, but the problem is, that you have on any level players that are pushers. You will always have to fight and play your style. Never forget to move. By the way, there are many pushers who like to be attacked.
Don't hurry. And try to avoid risky shots. Don't gamble. The most important tip is, that you should at any costs get in lead. Otherwise, it becomes very ugly.
pushers.... I think their game is so plain, not much thinking done when you have the exact same plan for every ball that comes to you. one thing that I found to be useful when playing pushers was to recognize you are going to have to be a bit more patient than him/her in a few points. and they generally go for the same shot when you attack them (which is nice to know when charging the net after attack), they use the same patterns a lot which can be recognized and used against them
100% right I was losing to pushers n sick of it. Worst is doubles with 2 pushers I just stand n watch moonballs. so I change my style to beat them
Pushers never come in so hit the ball to the open court to make them run. When they run they r defending take away their pushing n hit short n
loop balls. Next most important u must come in hit a volley or smash to pressure them or end point.
If u dont be aggressive u never beat the pusher. I start playing this way and improved. So thanks pushers.
@exitingforward a counter puncher is not a pusher ,a pusher is someone who just gets the ball back and deep, a counter puncher is someone who pretty much returns the same reply to the shot you hit most of the time and waits on the right ball to hit a winner such as a short ball, usually they can't just slap a winner from the back like a berdych, del potro, or any of these other guys with a lot of power
There are pushers that make you play faster. I've seen some very athletic pushers with amazing control. Playing against 3.5-4.0 highschool players and still being able to push an opponents burning running forehand down the line into the service line at the opposite side of the court. Not all pushers are as lackadaisical as this video made them seem. Some have very aggressive strokes if you give it to them. There are also counter pushers that use your power to hit deep semifast pushes.
@FYB2007 So this on Wiki abt Pusher's wrong?
- Even at the professional level, players who have a “pusher” style are criticized. Andy Murray, a previously No.2 ranked tennis player has gotten calls from tennis elites to play more aggressively. Andy Roddick’s coach, Larry Stefanki called Murray a pusher and “that’s not going to win you Slams.” Coach Nick Bollettieri, one of Andy's biggest fans, says it would be "virtually impossible" for Murray to win a Grand Slam event without a B n B shot..
Hey Will: Professional pusher = Date Krumm. lol just kidding. I love her. I also agree that basically at the pro level, even above 5.0 there are counter punchers, not pushers.
On a side note, lots of low level pushers often use light racquets with high power because of their very short stabby strokes. Players looking for longer strokes should be using heavier pro model racquets and not Hammers. This will often help prevent injury as well to the wrist and elbow.
great video / concepts but wish you would have made it a bit higher level. The 3.0 dinkers you demonstrated really has nothing to do with strategy but just being able to hit a groundstroke properly. The 4-5.0 pushers are what kill. They just play firm but safe groundstrokes and everytime they are rushed . . . moonball to backhand. They know how to play but never take a risk. Unless you are on your winners . . . gg for them.
Um.... you forgot the meaning of why those people are called pusher... Nadal have a full swing, pusher tends to have half swing. Nadal usually overwhelm his opponent to make forced error because he hit shots that are so heavy with topspin. If you play a Pusher basically he can never overwhelm you he will just try to get the ball in.
Djokovic is number one because he had an easy draw (Ferrer) in the Australian Open semis while Murray had to face Federer in four tough sets. Murray was popped and did not have the stamina to continue to play while Djokovic did not have a tough enough time to match Murray efforts in the draw.
Murray should be number one!
Also, to HW2800: "Djokovic has basic weakness in his game. First, he doe not seem to cover the court very well like Donald Young does. Secondly, he lacks confidences in his game. Thirdly, he makes errors in his short game. Fourthly, his return game leaves a lot to be desire." This is a wind up, yes????? Anyway, looking forward to seeing you in the next FYB vid.
The reason Nadal hits such a high ball is because he uses more topspin than normal, causing the ball to rise high over the net. His average forehand has 3600 rpm, where as most pros have between 1800-2300 (Feds is like 2100).... Just because the ball goes high doesn't mean he's trying to moonball it or push.
The "pushers" I play at 3.0-3.5 club level don't really moonball in so much as they hit with no pace what so ever. Every ball lands short inside or just slightly behind the service lines. These types of balls have no pace and tend to be very low. It's hard to hit a ball with pace that has no pace. These people IMO are not "pushers" but hack ball junk ball players.
serve out wide to get them off the court, or into the body and get to the net right away. no point in even rallying with a pusher. return serve solid, and get to the net. its simple. you just have to be aggressive. foot work and moving your feet are great, but thats not going to stop a pusher from pushing the ball.
im not too sure exactly, but where i come from, thats when u play a person who likes to prolong the game and hit high, usually topspin shots which is really annoying because for me, it completely messes up my pace. Pretty much they will never hit a flat, or low ball. But that's just what i think it is or what i know what a pusher is.
fxxking hate the pushers, i don't know why people like to keep that "ugly style" instead of changing to play more correct form and play more smooth, but pushers are good opponents to test your level of tennis and improve, once u comfortably beat pushers, then ur tennis level will definitely into another level!
@FYB2007 hey will im about a 4.5-5.0 highschool player, and i do have trouble play with the guys who have the heavy topspin and counterpunch all the time. Sometimes its hard for me to stay as consistent as them and sometimes i rush and make errors. I was just wondering if you had any tips about playing these guys,
Thanks,
Pushers are the reason I'll probably never play in another club level doubles tournament. Singles I can handle, but when you got two people doing it, it completely ruins the game. In singles, there's almost always better quality opponents as you move up in a tournament. In doubles, this doesn't seem to be the case, save for pro level tournaments.
@sydkneesy You hate playing counterpunchers, or watching counterpunchers? To me counterpunchers make the game more entertaining to watch. I find Tennis dull when both players aim is to crush the ball from the getgo. There are no rallies, points are won or lost on the serve or on the third shot, totally yawnworthy over a whole match.
@Rafathaman94 Why do people still make this absurd clueless claim. I can only assume you know zero about tennis. Murray puts lots of spin, changes pace alot, etc, trying to force a significant mistake from his opponent to capitalise on. Just because somebody gets the ball back alot it doesn't make them a pusher.
@sandiegotennis he is not a pusher then.. from your description it sounds as if this player is aggressive. This "pusher" is using inadvertedly attacking combos, and by no means is playing defensive like pushers do. This guy is just quick and consistent - there is a difference.
@kakoiijing hey man same here,i just lost at the first round of a tournament tdy to an irritating pusher, i'm so used to playing with hard hitters,but this idiot was playing so slow, i too became slower
i felt so dissapointed,could have won,but i guess the one that had the least errors win
imo pushers fucking ruin the sport of tennis, but the one thing that makes me feel good is that pushers WILL NEVER IMPROVE THEIR GAME...they may think that they are good, but in the long term, they are just screwing themselves b/c they will always play the same, repetitive, boring style.
@Denoheatwave NO! pushers, are the most annoying people to play! i play junior tourneys too, ive been playing for maybe 2 years, and it's really really annoying when you play pushers and lose, because the think they are better, but honestly they really dont have much skill if all the do is push.