The Philippines Could Be The Last Country To Legalize Divorce (HBO)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
  • The Philippines is the only country in the world - besides Vatican City, the city-state of the Roman Catholic Church - where divorce is illegal.
    Lawmakers are working to change that.
    The Philippine Senate is back in session this week, and it’s considering a bill that would legalize divorce. The country’s House of Representatives approved the bill back in March.
    But it’s far from a guarantee. Most Filipinos remain split on the issue. A special report from March found that 53 percent of Filipinos are in favor of legalizing divorce, with 32 percent against it, and 15 percent undecided.
    There are two other major obstacles: President Rodrigo Duterte and the Catholic Church.
    Thus far, Duterte has dodged questions about his stance on the issue, though his spokesperson said he’s against divorce. Meanwhile, the Catholic Church has been pulling out all the stops.
    Congresswomen Pia Cayetano, one of the authors of the new bill, said the Church’s influence is the main reason why divorce still isn’t legal. She worries the powerful religious organization will go all out to keep it that way.
    She felt the Church’s wrath in 2012, when she voted for a bill that allowed free access to contraception.
    “My name was mentioned in Church as you know whatever messenger of the demon.” Cayetano recalls. “We have a very strong and influential Catholic Church and a lot of politicians, a lot of legislators tend to be concerned about what views the Church has.”
    The Philippines remains a deeply Catholic country - more than 80 percent of the population identify as Catholic, and many rely on it for education and social services.
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Комментарии • 2,2 тыс.

  • @edelynredola8379
    @edelynredola8379 3 года назад +194

    Divorce is and will always be a taboo topic to alot of people. Some people would rather see domestic violence than ruin the "sanctity of marriage"

    • @Ohjieun-j1j
      @Ohjieun-j1j 3 года назад +18

      Yes, nakakalungkot. Domestic violence in itself ruins a family

    • @lizasplaylist
      @lizasplaylist 3 года назад +7

      Yes very true. Happens with my parents every day.

    • @anluchtbain7389
      @anluchtbain7389 3 года назад +3

      Just get an annulment

    • @edelynredola8379
      @edelynredola8379 3 года назад +15

      @@anluchtbain7389 Thats easy if you have a lot of cash but of you dont thats not possible.

    • @Ohjieun-j1j
      @Ohjieun-j1j 3 года назад +1

      @@edelynredola8379 even legal separation is not possible

  • @princess_ama
    @princess_ama 6 лет назад +666

    While I do believe that marriage should be a lifelong commitment, sometimes things don't always work out. Some marriages were arranged by family members for the purpose of wealth instead of love. Sometimes there is abuse in the home (not just from the husband, because a wife can also be abusive), and you have to think about your safety and the safety of any children you happened to have. Unfortunately, counseling doesn't always work, and some people never change from their old ways. You shouldn't have to spend your life suffering because your partner doesn't want to change. Marriage should be a partnership. If someone isn't doing their part you both suffer from a lifetime of unhappiness and regret.

    • @krishyyfan5153
      @krishyyfan5153 6 лет назад +23

      there is legal separation law in the Philippines...Only Divorce is illegal.... The difference is, in Legal Separation, the couples can separate houses and property, but they can't remarry....In Divorce, there is total dissolution of marriage and so they can Remarry again...

    • @sucreygalgo8071
      @sucreygalgo8071 6 лет назад +8

      Princess Ama divorce doesnt make women safe from men.

    • @Written_in_the_Starss
      @Written_in_the_Starss 6 лет назад +1

      Princess Ama yeah " SOMETIMES" .

    • @Written_in_the_Starss
      @Written_in_the_Starss 6 лет назад +19

      The philippines doesnt practice arranged marriages and you can always leave your abusive partner.. The lesson is think really really hard before deciding to marry a person. I hope your country has a high percentage of families that are together. In the Philippines people are family oriented and both moms and dad are important. Its actually very equal here with comes to marriage. And yes abusive spous do exist but your abusive partner will still abuse you with or without divorce we dont focus on the small numbers of cases when strict marriage law does work in this country. In countries where marriage can be easily nullify. People do change partner as like how they change clothes and abusing partners still exists.

    • @JeffMonsoon
      @JeffMonsoon 6 лет назад +12

      marvioxious1989 not all families need a mother or father. Many families do good without one. My mother's divorce of my father has been the best choice she's ever made. Your argument is flawed. If you can still be abused even if you are divorced then what is the point? The point is that it is a step to forever getting away from your abuser.

  • @ruzzelladrian907
    @ruzzelladrian907 6 лет назад +180

    My country's culture is obsessed with religion. So much so, that these sects and cults have leverage with conservative politicians who are also members of some churches.

    • @diegogervasoni3432
      @diegogervasoni3432 3 года назад +10

      @play store gameslol don't talk like islam is so much better. I don't see a fucking single human right being respected in arab peninsula iran pakistan and most of north africa.

    • @diegogervasoni3432
      @diegogervasoni3432 3 года назад +2

      @play store games yes and look at the world, europe americas and Australia/ New Zealand along with japan. They are basically the most developed countries in he world

    • @diegogervasoni3432
      @diegogervasoni3432 3 года назад +1

      @play store games saudi arabia qatar kuwait and UAE literally use fucking slaves for building their stupid cities. Look for example at Qatar 2022 stadium, more than 6000 nepalese /indians died in building these shits.
      Malaysia Morocco and Tunisia are the ones who are clearly becoming better, rich but sustainable and with human rights.

    • @forcedbreedingsociety8907
      @forcedbreedingsociety8907 2 года назад +1

      so much drama, YOUR BEING FORCED BRED. unlike other countries who have moved forward and found other reasons for their existence. Philippines is at the stage of human civilization that needs a large population to build cities and breed out the best traits.
      so much drama as always and for the wrong reasons.

    • @lolololgii754
      @lolololgii754 2 года назад +2

      @play store games not really, philippines is a secular country, the reason why human rights isn't well developed here is because of the huge influence of religion.

  • @user-yn5nc7ob4d
    @user-yn5nc7ob4d 6 лет назад +353

    Is it not ironic?
    Spain brought Catholicism in the Philippines, leaving 86% Filipino Catholics yet Spain, now having only 68% Catholics in which the majority are non-practicing ones.
    p.s., Spain taught Filipinos that being “brown” is ugly. Now, the Philippines has the longest aisles for whitening products.

    • @tasinal-hassan8268
      @tasinal-hassan8268 6 лет назад +36

      +It Is Well Colonialism sure got to them philippinese people lol. Here in Bangladesh we still maintain the colonial British system of law,however we cancelled out all the other aspects of British colonialism.

    • @jayfawn8478
      @jayfawn8478 6 лет назад +10

      It Is Well yayy spain at least its not British they are the real savage

    • @kerol5905
      @kerol5905 6 лет назад +19

      Ahahaahha also in Spain apparently being "tan" is "in".
      I follow several spanish fashion bloggers on instagram, and their all tan.
      Like, seriously tan.
      Like borderline burned skin 😂

    • @ventnrage4851
      @ventnrage4851 6 лет назад +1

      lol I saw this comment in now this yt channel

    • @maharlikarajah2675
      @maharlikarajah2675 6 лет назад +1

      religious not religous

  • @2020rhal
    @2020rhal 6 лет назад +153

    Hmm... I wonder how advanced the Philippines would have been if the church had no say with the laws.

    • @krishyyfan5153
      @krishyyfan5153 6 лет назад +38

      advancement does not equate to happiness....look at the suicide rank of countries and see who is more miserable... LOL

    • @lawrenceryancalva4205
      @lawrenceryancalva4205 6 лет назад +60

      Krishyy Fan
      Just because many in the Philippines are happy doesn't mean problems like these don't exist.

    • @ruthfuentes1385
      @ruthfuentes1385 6 лет назад

      Mark Dawson uu765 I was s0ap, banana wolf for kids balloons for kids escudero for escudero for kids Splatoon for kids

    • @ruthfuentes1385
      @ruthfuentes1385 6 лет назад

      Krishyy Fan u new scooter for kids escudero for kids I don't like cartoons zombie for kids escudero for kids

    • @krishyyfan5153
      @krishyyfan5153 5 лет назад +4

      @Swovon the most Wise people are poor...Epictetus, Confucius, publius syrus....So??.... Funny even those so called Progressive City people would rather want to stay in the province where people are much nicer and life is more simple than the Stressful City life...LOL...

  • @WeaponOfMyDestructio
    @WeaponOfMyDestructio 6 лет назад +380

    Damn I didn't even think it was illegal.

    • @jonny8704
      @jonny8704 6 лет назад +14

      WeaponOfMyDestructio me neither and I’m half Filipino.

    • @migshome1975
      @migshome1975 6 лет назад +21

      Jonny and im an actual filipino living the philippines

    • @JoeyTheBeaster
      @JoeyTheBeaster 6 лет назад

      WeaponOfMyDestructio me neither im mexican

    • @aprilshower7799
      @aprilshower7799 6 лет назад +1

      WeaponOfMyDestructio MONEY MONEY MONEY...GIVE THEM (FILIINAS) MONEY AND THEYLL NOT DIVORCE YOU; OTHERWISE YOULL GET HER WRATH..."For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs." 1 TIMOTHY 6:10

    • @yukira9838
      @yukira9838 6 лет назад

      Same man

  • @HiAdrian
    @HiAdrian 6 лет назад +208

    I don't know much about the Philippines, but as an outsider, it always seemed to me like they were stuck in a bad place the way Christianity infused into society.

    • @plutoniumbomb056
      @plutoniumbomb056 6 лет назад +22

      They're also infused into the government also, sadly. That's why it took us so long to get to this point in divorce.

    • @Italsik
      @Italsik 6 лет назад +21

      Why are you all just blaming it into the church, it's true it has its own bad side but it also has its own good side.
      Why don't you also blame how we were colonize for three times and were weak and foolish enough to be used?
      That we have corrupt and foolish goverment, and a lot of uneducated people?
      Blaming it only because of the church is just too stupid.

    • @krishyyfan5153
      @krishyyfan5153 6 лет назад +17

      look at the Suicide rate Ranking of your country and compare that to the Philippines...LEt us see who is happier and who is miserable.. =)

    • @jayfawn8478
      @jayfawn8478 6 лет назад +14

      There is no perfect country btw

    • @myfavoritesongismingi3544
      @myfavoritesongismingi3544 6 лет назад +10

      Krishyy Fan the suicide rate ranking of a country isn't a basis of happiness of the citizens of whatever country.

  • @alberto1481
    @alberto1481 6 лет назад +66

    When I was a child, 12 years old, in 1981, divorce was legalized in my country, Spain . Now, nobody, including Spanish Catholic Church, think about unlegalizing divorce.
    If the Filipinas legalizes divorce now, nobody, including Filipino Catholic Church, will think about unlegalizing divorce by 2022 or so.

    • @krishyyfan5153
      @krishyyfan5153 6 лет назад +6

      yeah...look at the Suicide rate ranking of your Country and compare it to the Philippines...Let us see who is miserable and who is happier... =)

    • @lawrenceryancalva4205
      @lawrenceryancalva4205 6 лет назад +30

      Krishyy Fan
      Just because the Philippines is happy doesn't mean that problems/issues like this don't exist. Don't sweep it under the rug.

    • @sirjgn4868
      @sirjgn4868 6 лет назад +16

      Suicide rates dont dictate happiness.
      So if there is a certain number of people dying each day does that mean thats how many murders take place?
      Wrong.
      You aren't taking into account the other factors.

    • @krishyyfan5153
      @krishyyfan5153 6 лет назад +3

      comparing murder with suicide is like comparing apples and oranges....suicide = SELF- INFLICTED murder caused by DEPRESSION and MISERY.....

    • @sirjgn4868
      @sirjgn4868 6 лет назад +11

      You missed the point. Im saying that you should look at all the factors and not sweep it under the rug by saying "Oh were oh-so-happy suicide rates blahblahblah"

  • @ohwow3072
    @ohwow3072 4 года назад +38

    Im from Philippines, one of my classmates' mother had died when she was young. the Father wants to remarry again and and my classmate allows it because the woman is great sadly the woman cant be her new mom because of the law here, the fathers marriage is still tied to the first woman he married.

    • @shishi6799
      @shishi6799 4 года назад +4

      How is it not allowed if her mother, who I assume is her father's wife, is already dead? Am I missing something here?

    • @ohwow3072
      @ohwow3072 4 года назад +13

      @@shishi6799 its looked down upon here yknow because marriages in philippines is so sacred. the only thing we can have is annulment

    • @filipinocatholicschannel5098
      @filipinocatholicschannel5098 3 года назад

      There is no legal issue in the Philippine constitution or the Catholic canon with regards remarrying after death. My dad died when we were young and everyone in the family was encouraging her to remarry because it is hard to live and work as a single mother in the Philippines. She was the one who loved my dad so much she chose not to date again.

  • @jazzmina506
    @jazzmina506 6 лет назад +68

    please be empathetic to everyone who have experienced bad things after marriage as you don't feel what they felt during these situations. This is a free country where you have freedom of speech but please don't forget your moral values to be sensitive enough to our fellow Filipinos who suffered so much with their marriage.

    • @Written_in_the_Starss
      @Written_in_the_Starss 6 лет назад

      Jazz Mina so we consider that marriages always end up in bad experiences? Lol The Philippines has occational cases of those but its not very common. Kaya ang mga pinoy against ra divorce kasi kung di mo pansin sa mga bansa na legal at easy ang divorce,nawawalan ng halaga ang kasal kasi parang ang dali naman ecancel. Pinoys are family oriented. Ang ok if mas easy ang annulment but no to divorse.

    • @Ohjieun-j1j
      @Ohjieun-j1j 3 года назад +8

      @@Written_in_the_Starss it's so common nowadays and it has been common even in the past. You are too blind to see. Stop living in your bubble

    • @Written_in_the_Starss
      @Written_in_the_Starss 3 года назад

      @@Ohjieun-j1j Im not blind youre just being drowned by bad relationships you see.

    • @lizasplaylist
      @lizasplaylist 3 года назад +11

      No one is forcing anyone into divorce. If people want to stay married, they’ll stay married. If it wasn’t meant to be, then they’ll choose to legally separate or divorce. Simple

    • @julioriveragomez6995
      @julioriveragomez6995 3 года назад +2

      @@Written_in_the_Starss the thing is, making annulment easy is by turning it into divorce...

  • @ftbx1
    @ftbx1 6 лет назад +342

    Even the bible says you can divorce for adultery. Smh

    • @wapashung01
      @wapashung01 6 лет назад +63

      *Bible + A man who literally interprets the scripture = foolishness*

    • @恵一-p3l
      @恵一-p3l 6 лет назад +6

      wapashung01 lmao if you misinterpet the bible you get cults

    • @jhonaaron1493
      @jhonaaron1493 6 лет назад +2

      What? That's sin for christian

    • @ftbx1
      @ftbx1 6 лет назад +1

      Putang Inamo Matthew 5:31-32 divorce except for sexual immortality...

    • @ftbx1
      @ftbx1 6 лет назад +12

      Ppl dont even read the bible... just makr up random laws to control ppl. God gave us freewill. No human should control another human.

  • @Redorgreenful
    @Redorgreenful 6 лет назад +103

    I love the couples counseling center has a shirt that says, "Wives submit to your husbands." What an embarrassment to the world.

    • @LairNobleza
      @LairNobleza 5 лет назад +1

      ?

    • @crossout1243
      @crossout1243 4 года назад +4

      Redcatrobe do you know the full verse

    • @ashilandz3332
      @ashilandz3332 3 года назад +2

      Yup my parents are part of the organization and it's always like this....

    • @jbarral6509
      @jbarral6509 3 года назад

      If I have ever had a wife I get to be on par with me

    • @pitbossea
      @pitbossea 3 года назад

      Then don’t expect men to be traditional. Equality works both ways.

  • @awkwardpanda1081
    @awkwardpanda1081 6 лет назад +84

    In marriage vows in the Philippines, you would hear the priest say "babae magpasailalim ka sa iyong asawa" which means "woman be subordinate to your spouse" and I think that already says a lot.

    • @kol8214
      @kol8214 3 года назад +16

      Wow really. I live here but I didnt know that.

    • @julioriveragomez6995
      @julioriveragomez6995 3 года назад +8

      @@kol8214 ganon talaga kapag conservative ang bansa.

    • @julioriveragomez6995
      @julioriveragomez6995 3 года назад +5

      Pero dapat ibahin na natin ‘to.

    • @julealero7689
      @julealero7689 3 года назад +15

      Agree. I think we need to be progressive and change as a country. There’s nothing wrong and i’m sure God wouldn’t mind

    • @kol8214
      @kol8214 3 года назад +17

      @@julioriveragomez6995 true. Im christian but I hope we change this. Cause there are actual victims suffering here

  • @rome229
    @rome229 6 лет назад +36

    You cant force people to be in an estranged relationship. That's no longer love that's imprisonment.

  • @humanbeing2722
    @humanbeing2722 6 лет назад +19

    It's 21st century and the Filipino govt still can't get red of the influence of the Catholic church where as the English monarchs got a strong hold on the churches influences and broke away from the Vatican 500 years ago

  • @rimshaansari5889
    @rimshaansari5889 5 лет назад +129

    Im from India... Philippines is a good country... I love Philippines.

    • @nytrex_yt7417
      @nytrex_yt7417 4 года назад

      Rimsha Ansari Hello fellow Indian

    • @teresawilliams3570
      @teresawilliams3570 4 года назад +1

      I suspected my man was cheating on me so I used @john.son1935 an ethical hacker on Instagram to spy on his accounts

    • @Djinner13
      @Djinner13 4 года назад +1

      Wow, you watch this entire documentary and that's what you get out of it? As a fellow indian, I'm ashamed you are from India.

    • @k-studio8112
      @k-studio8112 4 года назад

      Namaste Indians from PH

    • @guts2008
      @guts2008 4 года назад +1

      @@k-studio8112 ban divorce . Divorce is against Hinduism.

  • @ericparan6303
    @ericparan6303 5 лет назад +123

    "They can leave their husband, because there is also legal separation. You can leave legally but don't get married again, because you made yourself a promise." Very well said.

    • @teresawilliams3570
      @teresawilliams3570 4 года назад

      never new I could access my boyfriend account without his knowledge but thanks to @john.son1935 on IG his a pro who hacked he's account and gave me his Access

    • @artveylringca2705
      @artveylringca2705 4 года назад +4

      Patawa kaa anong promise pinasasabi, promise bayunh sinasaktan ka physically at emotionally diba ang promise mamahalin nila ang isa't isa pero kung yung isa hindi bali na break na yung promise doon

    • @user-gq8dg4mf2c
      @user-gq8dg4mf2c 4 года назад

      Folks, that's why you promised that in good and bad, you'll continue your relationship

    • @pogan4916
      @pogan4916 3 года назад

      The husband made promise too.

    • @lonelyberg1808
      @lonelyberg1808 3 года назад

      Very well said

  • @johnvictorroderos8842
    @johnvictorroderos8842 6 лет назад +334

    "Are we behind the times or are we holding on what is right?"
    Oof

  • @Chillingcomfy
    @Chillingcomfy 3 года назад +62

    5:42 Are we behind the times, or are we holding on to what is right?
    Yeah, right. Says the man who never married and never been in an abusive relationship. Yeah.
    Also, how has abusive relationships with perpetual suffering to all parties directly affected those who oppose divorce? If you don't want divorce, don't get it.

    • @muhiddeny.misbak542
      @muhiddeny.misbak542 2 года назад +5

      It's the couple's fault for marrying. They made their vows and they must stand on that marriage. They should never marry at first place if the woman does not know the man well because making life decision based on emotion with lack of rationality was always dangerous. Now that the marriage was done, there's no turning back and she must keep moving forward.

    • @Nana-tx2mu
      @Nana-tx2mu 2 года назад +11

      @@muhiddeny.misbak542 You don't even know if the woman or man married wholeheartedly some of us are literally forced to be married. Also, some people change in the span of their marriage.

    • @gerardanderson9665
      @gerardanderson9665 2 года назад +3

      @@muhiddeny.misbak542 people like you are the cause of counties backwardness and anti progressivism. Shame on you

    • @janiahsantos3241
      @janiahsantos3241 2 года назад +2

      @@muhiddeny.misbak542 you can't just predict how a marriage will go

    • @G_Singh222
      @G_Singh222 2 года назад

      @@Nana-tx2mu then fix the ways of marriage, not divorce

  • @myfavoritesongismingi3544
    @myfavoritesongismingi3544 6 лет назад +20

    laws shouldn't even be based off of religious statements in the first place, imho, religious people shouldn't have a place in the government since their religious beliefs cloud their lawful judgment. in times like these, i really miss former senator, Miriam Defensor-Santiago.

  • @akra1332
    @akra1332 2 года назад +17

    I dont why they made the divorce illegal in my country but imagine the people who suffers violence in their relationship, imagine how would the kid react or feel if he/she saw them fight every day... Poor them... May Lord God help them pls 😢😢😢... I know that were too religious but this is not right 😭😭😭

    • @2557carla
      @2557carla 2 года назад

      In order to file a divorce to your husband or wife instead of committing adultery or making your married life worst. In the Philippines, there's no divorce unless if you're Muslim. Since most Filipinos doesn't want to convert to Islam because they love pork and alcohol then convert to Buddhism.

  • @k-studio8112
    @k-studio8112 4 года назад +107

    2020: The approval of the divorce was abolished by the senate of congress

    • @matcat7623
      @matcat7623 4 года назад +23

      good

    • @ronron208
      @ronron208 4 года назад +41

      That's sad

    • @christopherbryanrenevdacio3549
      @christopherbryanrenevdacio3549 4 года назад +2

      thats whay you call it nice one.!

    • @hetaeramancer
      @hetaeramancer 4 года назад +10

      mabuti nga eh!
      pabor sakin yun kase pangit actually yung kalalabasan pag biglang ging legalize eh
      dadami yan yung mga maga divorce palibhasa pwede na
      yung mga hindi naman talaga kailangan mag divorce
      yung mga "nagsawa lang"
      pangit ng ganun at masasanay tau for generations to come
      sana hindi maging legal ang divorce, nakakadagdag rin kaya ng security un in terms of pagmamahal
      siguro may mang aabuso pero mas matimbang parin yung alam mong habambuhay kaung magkakasama kaya mas papatibayin niyo yung samahan
      MAGKAKAROON LANG NG RASON ANG MGA MAGASAWA PARA MAGHIWALAY, PANO? MAGTATAKSIL!
      KAYA NO TO DIVORCE!

    • @artveylringca2705
      @artveylringca2705 4 года назад +5

      Nooo need ng divorce

  • @theojansen7344
    @theojansen7344 3 года назад +15

    As a "Cano", western guy, I was surprised in a negative way how many women were separated/legally separated and could not get a serious new relation and future because of not able to divorce. Also the fact that an annulment was hard to do. Both parties have to agree for that (and pinoy have a silly pride not to accept the wishes of their legal wives. They prefer to fool around). Next to the crazy costs to get an annulment and the time it takes (400k plus 4 to 5 years). All determined by huge influence by the Catholic church.....all single persons who have no experiences in relationships like marriage.

  • @papiofisher
    @papiofisher 5 лет назад +8

    Churches should not make family decisions. Churches don't feed nor financially support single parent mom's. Nor provide shelter.

  • @anactualmango_
    @anactualmango_ 6 лет назад +50

    I’m a Filipino and even my devout Catholic parents think that the Catholic Church is preventing the Philippines from developing and holding it back 🤦🏽‍♂️ The Church needs to stop running it’s nose in everyone’s business as the Philippines is a secular state by law. Hay nako

    • @maharlikarajah2675
      @maharlikarajah2675 6 лет назад

      Team PuR3 SAUDI IS A RICH AND DEVELOPED COUNTRY... YET ISLAM IS BACKWARD AND PRIMITIVE AND ALSO BARBARIC.... DOES ECONOMY AND PROGRESS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH RELIGION... NO.. IDIOT

    • @maharlikarajah2675
      @maharlikarajah2675 6 лет назад

      Team PuR3 MESSING UP OR INTERVENE NOT NOSE IN... IDIOT... PEOPLE'S BUSINESS AND EVERYONE'S BUSINESS

    • @maharlikarajah2675
      @maharlikarajah2675 6 лет назад

      Team PuR3 FREEDOM OF SPEECH .. BUT CHURCH IS THEIR TO REMIND PEOPLE ON WHAT ACTIONS TO TAKE AND DECISIONS TO MAKE.... THEY ARE CONSCIENCE OF SOCIETY ..THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE COUNTRY

    • @anactualmango_
      @anactualmango_ 6 лет назад +6

      why are you screaming lmfao

    • @spicyaznsauce3139
      @spicyaznsauce3139 6 лет назад +1

      I don't see much separation from the Church and State within the Philippines, even though you say that the Philippines is a secular state by law.

  • @pinoyako9830
    @pinoyako9830 2 года назад +5

    By legalising divorce, you're teaching people not to think twice before marrying. No to divorce. I think, what we need is for the government to lead its people to be peaceful, loving and faithful family and community and not separate families.

    • @phhorrorstories1793
      @phhorrorstories1793 2 года назад

      Yes para ok lng na Makita Ng bata na nag aaway Ang parents nya kase health un para sa bata and dpt iendure dn ng naabuso ang pananakit ng asawa Kaya no to divorce Tayo. Diba?

    • @phhorrorstories1793
      @phhorrorstories1793 2 года назад

      And support natin ang abusive and toxic relationship dba mga Catholic/christians Kase lahat ng marriage ay perfect Kaya b*tch no to divorce

    • @cureangelz
      @cureangelz 2 года назад

      Government teaching people to be good citizens? That's so unrealistic. You literally sound like a 1st grader. 😂

  • @julioriveragomez6995
    @julioriveragomez6995 3 года назад +24

    Legalize the law na, dyosko. Sobrang mahal ng process of annulment.

    • @lizasplaylist
      @lizasplaylist 3 года назад +6

      Exactly.

    • @lukkielderamos7412
      @lukkielderamos7412 2 года назад

      Kung tunay kang kristiyanong buo (100%), dapat sundin mo ng buo ang utos ni Kristo;
      MARCOS 10:2-9
      “May ilang Pariseong gustong subukin si Jesus; kaya't lumapit sila at nagtanong, “Naaayon po ba sa Kautusan na hiwalayan ng lalaki ang kanyang asawa?” Sumagot siya, “Ano ba ang utos ni Moises sa inyo?” Sumagot naman sila, “Ipinahintulot po ni Moises na ang lalaki ay gumawa ng kasulatan ng paghihiwalay bago niya hiwalayan at palayasin ang kanyang asawa.” Ngunit sinabi ni Jesus, “Ginawa ni Moises ang utos na iyon dahil sa katigasan ng inyong ulo. Subalit simula pa nang likhain ng Diyos ang sanlibutan, nilalang niya ang tao na lalaki at babae. ‘Dahil dito'y iiwan ng lalaki ang kanyang ama at ina, [magsasama sila ng kanyang asawa] at ang dalawa'y magiging isa.’ Hindi na sila dalawa kundi isa. Ang pinagsama ng Diyos ay huwag paghiwalayin ng tao.”

    • @2460z_htdja
      @2460z_htdja 4 месяца назад

      @@lukkielderamos7412 sino ba ang tunay na kristiyano? at naniwala lka naman

  • @cincilloYT
    @cincilloYT 6 лет назад +65

    When I was a child I couldn't understand why my parents decided to leave the Philippines. Only now I can see the society they were running from

  • @IlhaamOR
    @IlhaamOR 6 лет назад +134

    And not a single one of these anti divorce fools can answer the question to abuse.

    • @heyhoyo259
      @heyhoyo259 6 лет назад +27

      ILhaam Oz What are you talking about? There are literally families out there that live in separate homes because of abuse even if they are legally married. Is that not a "solution?" Or because it's not the solution YOU'RE looking for that it's not an acceptable one? I already know what you're going to say next, but go ahead and say it anyways.

    • @IlhaamOR
      @IlhaamOR 6 лет назад +5

      hey hoyo do you Iike talking to yourself?

    • @yukira9838
      @yukira9838 6 лет назад +17

      hey hoyo ur so out of topic😂
      I pity you

    • @yukira9838
      @yukira9838 6 лет назад +4

      hey hoyo she is not asking that question she is askingh a different question read before you write a comment dumbass

    • @heyhoyo259
      @heyhoyo259 6 лет назад

      Ghian Mhari Olpoc What question is she asking exactly?

  • @cassandra7105
    @cassandra7105 4 года назад +40

    my parents are married but separated. both of them are Christians who value their believes, there was no third party or sexual and physical abuse, its just they aren't ready for the commitments that comes after marriage so things between them got messy. I'm glad they didn't divorce, because that's the only thing that connected us to our mother and father. my family and the people around us still value our Christian believes, and I'm thankful for that.

  • @island-life
    @island-life 6 лет назад +95

    Church doesn't want divorce because they rather keep the ANNULMENT option. Why? because ANNULMENT IS WAY MORE EXPENSIVE! that's the truth, it's all about money and it's a hard pill to swallow for the so called Catholic country like the Philippines.
    My aunt filed an annulment case because her ex husband was cheating from day one and he spent all their money on bad habits like drugs and alcohol. They had one child and he had special needs. By the end of the annulment, most of my aunt's lifetime bank account savings was wasted on the annulment case. It took 15 years and almost 1 million pesos. That money could've been spent on their child who had special needs. He eventually died because his parents couldn't afford his medical needs anymore. You may ask me, "why did she want the annulment so desperately?" because her husband was holding her back. My aunt is an OFW. Her ex husband was making all kinds of threats against her like "he would take their son away when she's working abroad, he would sell all of their properties because it's a conjugal property." And a lot more. Bottom line, she needed to get out of the marriage LEGALLY. So really though, not having a divorce is a burden to the Filipino families.
    Divorce being illegal is not stopping the Filipino families from separating.
    It's not stopping people from cheating.
    It's not stopping people from making children out of wedlock.
    Google the statistics.
    63% of the children in Manila are ILLEGITIMATE and it's more than 50% for the overall population of the Philippines.
    To top it all off,
    the Philippines is leading the teenage pregnancy in Asia.
    AGE OF CONSENT in the Philippines is only 12 YEARS OLD.
    Let me say it again, TWELVE YEARS OLD.
    What can the church say about that? uh......... nothing!

    • @krishyyfan5153
      @krishyyfan5153 6 лет назад +7

      there is legal separation law in the Philippines...she should have availed that instead....

    • @island-life
      @island-life 6 лет назад

      Fan - Wag kang magpaka EPAL! tigilan mo ko!

    • @island-life
      @island-life 6 лет назад +6

      One more time....................................
      Divorce being illegal is not stopping the Filipino families from separating.
      It's not stopping people from cheating.
      It's not stopping people from making children out of wedlock.
      Google the statistics.
      63% of the children in Manila are ILLEGITIMATE and it's more than 50% for the overall population of the Philippines.
      To top it all off,
      the Philippines is leading the teenage pregnancy in Asia.
      AGE OF CONSENT in the Philippines is only 12 YEARS OLD.
      Let me say it again, TWELVE YEARS OLD.
      What can the church say about that? uh......... nothing!

    • @krishyyfan5153
      @krishyyfan5153 6 лет назад +4

      1) LOL... basa basa ka ng Family code ng Philippines konti ha... marriageable age is 18...Oh eto...BASA....
      Art. 5. Any male or female of the age of eighteen years or upwards not under any of the impediments mentioned in Articles 37 and 38, may contract marriage.
      ---(Family Code of the Philippines)
      2) saan mo nakuha yan statistics mo na 63% of children in Manila ay illegitimate child??
      Ano yan Barbero source?? ....LOL
      Eto rates ng Teen pregnancy...Wala nga ako mahanap na Pilipinas eh...
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_teenage_pregnancy

    • @savenature2319
      @savenature2319 6 лет назад +1

      www.quora.com/Why-are-there-so-many-single-moms-in-Philippines
      53% of all children born in Philippines and 63% children born in Manila NCR (National Capital Region) were illegitimate (c. 2015).

  • @7lol2007
    @7lol2007 6 лет назад +20

    UGH binding and forcing people together when they want to apart is no different than holding them captive. It is insane.

    • @anluchtbain7389
      @anluchtbain7389 3 года назад

      If they actually go married then regardless of what the law says, they’ll be with each other forever

    • @muhiddeny.misbak542
      @muhiddeny.misbak542 2 года назад

      Marriage is just like signing a contract. If you don't know how to read carefully and discern your choice properly, then you should expect a miserable deal, just like marriage.

    • @johnnyraf1329
      @johnnyraf1329 2 года назад

      @@muhiddeny.misbak542 You make marriage sound like a trap. Which it is.

    • @johnnyraf1329
      @johnnyraf1329 2 года назад

      @@anluchtbain7389 What if you're in a loveless, abusive marriage, will God subjugate you with the hell of going through that for eternity?

    • @worldofryhades1960
      @worldofryhades1960 2 года назад

      Hold on...here in Philippines, divorce is illegal but they can be separated whomever he/ she . but they can't be married again...In the eyes of a church and a promise to God..he / she didnt only one who vowed, both. Nonetheless if you get a chance to have a marriage..just think wisely and expect the unexpected...

  • @LairNobleza
    @LairNobleza 5 лет назад +73

    *Are we behind the times, or are we holding on to what is right*

  • @nreaction
    @nreaction 6 лет назад +35

    Anti divorce advocates are just close minded people. The government must give us an option if a relationship doesnt work anymore.

  • @jacksonnolasco
    @jacksonnolasco 6 лет назад +66

    Priests are against divorce but they dont even want to marry either. What a shame!

    • @mmmhmmm8236
      @mmmhmmm8236 6 лет назад +8

      happymoments Christianity never said anything that priest can't marry but the Church just made those rules that prevent them from doing it in the first place.

    • @joebob9094
      @joebob9094 6 лет назад +6

      The Church put that rule in because priests were handing off churches and monasteries to their children. It was a move to disincentive the biggest source of corruption: the urge to support one's own biology legacy.

    • @bunnssgalore5407
      @bunnssgalore5407 6 лет назад +3

      priests aren't supposed to marry

    • @lumengentium2365
      @lumengentium2365 5 лет назад +3

      Logical Arguement for that
      Priests are following Jesus.
      Jesus died with no spouse.
      To be like our Lord, you must live like our Lord.
      Hence, the Catholic priests cannot marry.

    • @hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247
      @hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247 3 года назад +1

      They are not allowed to.

  • @kanon1118
    @kanon1118 3 года назад +10

    Divorce should be legal. The church should not impose thier belief to people who dont share their religion thats just not right if you personally think divorce is wrong then dont participate but dont stop other people from making that choice. Only dictators do that.
    There is nothing wrong with falling out of love from your partner its natural and its normal. The church would rather that couple stay unhappy together instead of them moving and starting a new.
    Religion is absolute poison

  • @user-gq8dg4mf2c
    @user-gq8dg4mf2c 4 года назад +50

    My parents always tell that when it comes to marriage, think about the family, not "yourself".
    We separated with my father for nearly 3 years. My mother and my siblings went to my grandmother's house due to the cool off. Years later, we finally decided to live together and became a happy family.
    God has plans for you, you just need to do the right actions. Wag mo Lang pangunahan.

    • @mxnnlrnt
      @mxnnlrnt 3 года назад

      If it can have negative impacts on your children’s mental health then staying is not an option anymore. At this point it shouldn’t be about keeping the “family together” anymore if you can still call it that since it’s already been broken from the start. Not every story is the same as yours so i think you shouldn’t really have a say in it and just let everyone have the free will to decide what’s best for them.

    • @user-gq8dg4mf2c
      @user-gq8dg4mf2c 3 года назад +1

      @@mxnnlrnt ikr, my parents are really loyal to each other even if they're separated back then

    • @hobbi7091
      @hobbi7091 2 года назад +1

      Swerte mo sa family pag ganun, pano kung sobra na, di lang normal na away mag asawa, ok lng ba? For the sake of the “family”?

  • @fuckyoutubekssmyss4106
    @fuckyoutubekssmyss4106 3 года назад +22

    Divorce must be legal under some circumstances ...as this lady said she was willing to kill her husband or kill herself because of the abuse...so what crazy man think it's not better to divorce

    • @oirajavenkylea.3356
      @oirajavenkylea.3356 3 года назад +5

      As of now, an annulment is the best option for Filipinos to end their marriages. An annulment invalidates a marriage because of fraud, impotence, mistaken identity, or being under the legal age to marry.
      Although Filipino law permits annulments, the legalities are lengthy, pricey, and tedious. If a court grants an annulment, both parties can move forward as if never married, leaving each person free to remarry. The marriage, in essence, never existed under an annulment.
      CTTRO

  • @pungolay6586
    @pungolay6586 4 года назад +14

    I'm Filipino and I want divorce legalize!

    • @vinzlinardobnimaga7204
      @vinzlinardobnimaga7204 3 года назад +1

      @@nick-her9275 yo shut up and fix your grammar

    • @CCP-Lies
      @CCP-Lies 2 года назад

      @@nick-her9275 if wife live in abusive life?

    • @lukkielderamos7412
      @lukkielderamos7412 2 года назад

      MARK 10:2-9
      “Some Pharisees came to him and tried to trap him. “Tell us,” they asked, “does our Law allow a man to divorce his wife?” Jesus answered with a question, “What law did Moses give you?” Their answer was, “Moses gave permission for a man to write a divorce notice and send his wife away.” Jesus said to them, “Moses wrote this law for you because you are so hard to teach. But in the beginning, at the time of creation, ‘God made them male and female,’ as the scripture says. ‘And for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and unite with his wife, and the two will become one.’ So they are no longer two, but one. No human being then must separate what God has joined together.”

    • @Ymats-dj1nt
      @Ymats-dj1nt Год назад

      @@lukkielderamos7412 better preach those catholic priest that sexually abused the Catholic youth and support corrupt politicians

  • @droidnautica
    @droidnautica 3 года назад +5

    Divorce should be legalized.

    • @2557carla
      @2557carla 2 года назад

      In order to file a divorce to your husband or wife instead of committing adultery or making your married life worst. In the Philippines, there's no divorce unless if you're Muslim. Since most Filipinos doesn't want to convert to Islam because they love pork and alcohol then convert to Buddhism.

    • @Magnetshroom
      @Magnetshroom Год назад

      @@2557carla exactly.

    • @seanleeboboyo1338
      @seanleeboboyo1338 Год назад

      Yes, but it should only be done if abuse happens.

  • @rice6682
    @rice6682 6 лет назад +12

    I am a catholic but i do not follow everything what the priests preach. One they should never intervene in marital affairs, they are not married and pls do not say they are because of holy order. It is different being married to a person and ur vows to HIM.
    I AM FOR DIVORCE AND MAY I ADD I AM FOR RH BILL!!!!

    • @aceraphael
      @aceraphael 3 года назад

      So much for being a Catholic....you sound like a Prorestant...anyway keep protesting...

  • @kapatidtomas
    @kapatidtomas 3 года назад +12

    It's amazing that the fact that I grew up still in a country, where I didn't even knew until now that divorce was illegal because of the Catholic church, I never or didn't knew that it was illegal. It would be nice and definitely better for the benefit of the people if divorce was legalized, imagine some crime and social issues slowly falling down but surely. Good thing my mom and pa didn't marry or else they would have a struggle with the type of "divorce" system, damn

  • @hopedeleon8630
    @hopedeleon8630 5 лет назад +5

    I'm a married Filipino but I do believe that Divorce should be legalized. The greatest wall in here is the Catholic Church which makes business out of naive people. I agree on divorce BUT only with specific grounds like domestic violence, adultery and child abuse. The one who committed the said acts should also compensate the other half financially so as to prevent married couple from filing divorce just because of petty reasons esp. when they have kids.

    • @CCP-Lies
      @CCP-Lies 2 года назад

      Your church is like business tbh

    • @2557carla
      @2557carla 2 года назад +2

      @@CCP-Lies In order to file a divorce to your husband or wife instead of committing adultery or making your married life worst. In the Philippines, there's no divorce unless if you're Muslim. Since most Filipinos doesn't want to convert to Islam because they love pork and alcohol then convert to Buddhism.

  • @kevin080592
    @kevin080592 6 лет назад +129

    The Catholic Church: The number one "pang gulo" in the philippines

    • @jonasaracho1963
      @jonasaracho1963 6 лет назад +1

      Kevin 080592 couldn't agree more

    • @yukira9838
      @yukira9838 6 лет назад

      True

    • @iamerca8461
      @iamerca8461 6 лет назад +1

      1000000% true

    • @vince5572
      @vince5572 6 лет назад +6

      Religion was never made for peace and prosperity. They are made to manipulate people. If religion teaches peace, kindness, blah blah blah to its followers, then how come these people act like this? They act like they were not taught anything. Respect the decision of others. If a religious freak knows someone that doesn’t believe in religion they’ll say some bullshit things about religion to your face. Just like how vegans are both cancer to the society

    • @mirajane3535
      @mirajane3535 6 лет назад

      Kevin 080592 you're not Catholic?

  • @pauloabelha
    @pauloabelha 6 лет назад +20

    Only education can save us from collapse. No more organised religion. More resilient brains, willing to think deeply about things: relate and understand different concepts, arbitrariness of definitions etc.

    • @krishyyfan5153
      @krishyyfan5153 6 лет назад +3

      LOL...shut up...."Clean your Room." --- Dr. Jordan Peterson

    • @kosaiie9630
      @kosaiie9630 6 лет назад +2

      Krishyy Fan Why are you shutting him up? He is clearly correct about what he's saying.
      If one improves their lives by working hard and getting a good education thus poverty rates will decrease, thus early teenage birth rates will also decrease, as well as crime rates!
      Education lets people realize that the only way to get a good job and earn money and succeed in life is a very strong hard work ethic!

    • @maharlikarajah2675
      @maharlikarajah2675 6 лет назад

      Paulo Abelha organiZED.. NOT ORGANISED IDIOT

    • @lawrenceryancalva4205
      @lawrenceryancalva4205 5 лет назад

      @@maharlikarajah2675
      Both are correct actually.

    • @user-ss1ky4tu8y
      @user-ss1ky4tu8y 4 года назад

      @@maharlikarajah2675 grammar pa putang ina mo

  • @enzob.7394
    @enzob.7394 3 года назад +7

    Oh god this what happens when you let the church and gov share the same bed.

    • @kanon1118
      @kanon1118 3 года назад +3

      True. Religion in the philippines has poisoned the mind of its people.

  • @anonymoususer8056
    @anonymoususer8056 3 года назад +5

    Annulment is much better than Divorce

    • @kanon1118
      @kanon1118 3 года назад +3

      if you have 200,000 php to spend. and you cant remarry with annulment, so if you love someone again that someone cant marry you good luck with that relationship

    • @anonymoususer8056
      @anonymoususer8056 3 года назад +1

      @@kanon1118 Divorce is not the best. That's why many people in other countries have conflicts. Do you want a country that has many single parents like in America? Poor kids grow up without a good father or mother figure if there's divorce and conflicts on the family. If I was born in a country with divorce and my parents broke up. I will just kill myself.

    • @anonymoususer8056
      @anonymoususer8056 3 года назад +1

      @@kanon1118 Why would you marry in the first place if you would just have a divorce someday? That's trash man.

    • @kanon1118
      @kanon1118 3 года назад +1

      @@anonymoususer8056 there are many single kids right now regardless if there's divorce or not, the benefit of devorce is so you can start a new life that's not to say you forget your old one of course not, if you have kids divorce dosent neccessarily rob you of your obligation to the kid this is a misdirection which has nothing to do with divorce whatsoever, annulment does the same thing by the way which makles you a hypocrite for siting "divorce makes more single parents" but annulment does it too so why bring that up?
      your last question " Why would you marry in the first place if you would just have a divorce someday" you dont go out marrying someone with that midnset at all again another distracting question.
      times change sometimes you fall out of love sometimes the person change so much that you dont love him anymore so what? thats normal, instead of forcing people to be sad together you should just be happy appart.
      not to mention married couple without any kids why are you not mentioning them? you're looking at it with a black and white lense when there's many many situations where divorce is the only logical moral and economical option

    • @anonymoususer8056
      @anonymoususer8056 3 года назад +1

      @@kanon1118 Bro There are many single parents because of Divorce than Annulment. Annulment is not very popular in other countries. That's a fact, and second, this is why living nowadays sucks. Marriage is not very serious now and I'm disappointed in today's society. That's why I hear many New Generation people that don't want to be parents someday.

  • @CAFCmatt55
    @CAFCmatt55 6 лет назад +42

    Interesting but a shame the reporter is so biased. A neutral view showing both sides is so much more valuable.

  • @kaye2780
    @kaye2780 6 лет назад +54

    Step 1: cut the stronghold influence of the Church in the country
    Step 2: pass bills that impose laws on allowing divorce, abortion, easy access to contraception, legalize gay marriage and other tabooed bills stopped by the Church
    Let's see how the country adjusts to these changes

    • @itsmob4life
      @itsmob4life 6 лет назад +6

      mar dee yes allow the killing of babies, well allow women to kill babies

    • @plutoniumbomb056
      @plutoniumbomb056 6 лет назад +4

      It's not about copying, duhhh, how naive can you be. It's only to give people more choices given their status as a citizen. It's about being practical and inclusive of other groups of people. But, oh well, stay delusional and traditional for all I care.

    • @jasperreyes5174
      @jasperreyes5174 6 лет назад +1

      Know the difference about passisng a law giving someone a right to choose and someone passing a law to stifle someone else's right to choose... Guess what Catholicism is between the two...

    • @krishyyfan5153
      @krishyyfan5153 6 лет назад

      Yes...Create a Law to Abort Mar Dee.... =)

    • @franziska9260
      @franziska9260 6 лет назад

      Cielito Niel Ramos It is copying, sorry. At least in the region I live in.

  • @on2wheels378
    @on2wheels378 6 лет назад +36

    I have relatives who live in the same house, after decades of marriage and live separate lives.. Why stay with someone and compromise your happiness because a Church says it's a sin to divorce. It's plain stupidity.

    • @hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247
      @hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247 3 года назад

      Yeah, because we in the west are so happy here with our promiscious society. No we arent. Be happy that you still live in a country with values. Philippines are one of the happest countries in the world.

    • @on2wheels378
      @on2wheels378 3 года назад +3

      @@hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247So happy it has one of the largest illegal drug addiction problems in Asia..
      To add, how many couples are not happily married and still live together in turmoil.. You oversimplify a problem that exists..

    • @hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247
      @hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247 3 года назад

      @@on2wheels378 If you believe couples will be happier after divorce was legalized, you are wrong. Here in the west people arent happier. And what has drug addiction to do with that?

    • @on2wheels378
      @on2wheels378 3 года назад +1

      @@hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247 What are you a moron? YOU WROTE the Philippines is one of the happiest places on earth... SO why the addiction to illegal drugs?
      If you live with a devil, and you have a chance to leave, leave...
      You're mindset is old testament. The other religions have established divorce. Religion in the first place has harmed as much of mankind as war, disease and famine..
      Get over your high soap box and morality. The lack of pragmatism in your answer's borders in ignorance.

    • @hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247
      @hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247 3 года назад

      @@on2wheels378 The prevalence of illegal drugs is not that high in the philippines: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_drug_trade_in_the_Philippines
      I agree that you should leave a person if its the devil. You can leave but you cannot divorce and marry again.

  • @hearttcar6453
    @hearttcar6453 6 лет назад +11

    Are we really following the moves of other country?
    Beware of consequences.

    • @randominternetcitizen
      @randominternetcitizen 6 лет назад +3

      Are we really letting our children grow under abusive mothers/ fathers?
      Beware of consequences.

    • @LairNobleza
      @LairNobleza 5 лет назад +3

      @@randominternetcitizen There is a legal separation btuv

    • @randominternetcitizen
      @randominternetcitizen 5 лет назад +2

      @@LairNobleza that usually takes years before you are legally separated. Cool.

    • @teresawilliams3570
      @teresawilliams3570 4 года назад

      Kudos to @john.son1935 on IG he reactivated my disabled account within few minutes.

    • @aboveblock4338
      @aboveblock4338 4 года назад

      Trump 2020

  • @joshmellott8013
    @joshmellott8013 6 лет назад +6

    This is honestly ridiculous. The Bible even says that a woman can divorce and remarry if her husband abuses and cheats on her and vice versa. This is against Biblical teaching.

    • @maharlikarajah2675
      @maharlikarajah2675 6 лет назад +2

      Josh Mellott what verse... IS YOUR BIBLE DEMONIC?

    • @maharlikarajah2675
      @maharlikarajah2675 6 лет назад

      Josh Mellott nope.. maybe your bible is demonic

    • @tristanpistolante4930
      @tristanpistolante4930 2 года назад

      @@maharlikarajah2675 LOL

    • @2460z_htdja
      @2460z_htdja 4 месяца назад

      should you wait a husband to abuse you, or to force your husband to abuse you, to justify divorce, what a good teaching from god

  • @JG-tt4sz
    @JG-tt4sz 2 года назад +2

    Nations that allow divorce are much more moral. Riiiight.

  • @kekiboo
    @kekiboo Год назад +2

    Ironically enough, The Bible does allow divorce under certain circumstances like Abuse, neglect, Adultery, etc.

  • @恵一-p3l
    @恵一-p3l 6 лет назад +5

    Catholicism,as an institution, can blindly encourage people to do things in contrast with what MUST be done.
    Philippines is plagued with Catholicism in the sense that it has impacted people with thoughts which contradict laws.

    • @maharlikarajah2675
      @maharlikarajah2675 6 лет назад

      AND YOUR MIND IS PLAGUE WITH EVIL AND STUPIDITY

    • @lawrenceryancalva4205
      @lawrenceryancalva4205 6 лет назад +1

      恵一
      Not just encourage but also directly influence the population.

    • @恵一-p3l
      @恵一-p3l 6 лет назад +1

      Lawrence Ryan Calva exactly. It has been rooted in traditions as well. It could perhaps be said that catholicism could compromise a HUGE amount of philippine culture.

  • @piggugudu1327
    @piggugudu1327 6 лет назад +9

    I did not even realise that divorce was illegal in the Philippines 🤭 so no one can leave a marriage currently and remarry there?

    • @jbarral6509
      @jbarral6509 3 года назад

      They can legally leave their husband separately have you not heard of that?

    • @julioriveragomez6995
      @julioriveragomez6995 3 года назад +3

      @@jbarral6509 yes, but annulment is such a long and expensive process. It’s not worth it.

    • @lizasplaylist
      @lizasplaylist 3 года назад

      @@julioriveragomez6995 it can take decades to annul because it’s so expensive even if there is an abusive situation - by the time you might be able to pay it you’re already dead

    • @julioriveragomez6995
      @julioriveragomez6995 3 года назад

      @@lizasplaylist yes, exactly

  • @vajayna_eklhabouh
    @vajayna_eklhabouh 6 лет назад +58

    6:04 "WIVES, BE SUBMISSIVE TO YOUR HUSBANDS" Lol.... I'm good thanks.

  • @jonetdalusen5753
    @jonetdalusen5753 6 лет назад +2

    I am Catholic but I definitely believe in divorce. All the counties except the Philippines has divorce. Even the country who spread Christianity in the Philippines has divorce. There are some aspects that people do not fully understand. With the divorce are laws where properties are distributed equally between spouses. Laws giving Alimony to the spouse so he or she doesn’t get hungry if he or she is not self sufficient at the time of the divorce and laws requring child support to guarantee children are taken care of.
    When physical and verbal abuse is present in a relationship and all recourse has been explored to na avail. Divorce is justified.
    The separation of the church and the state should be respected by the church and should not meddle with its creation and implementation of state laws.

  • @rhy8336
    @rhy8336 6 лет назад +16

    I love in the gift shop the shirt that says “wives be submissive to your husbands” wow

    • @Ohjieun-j1j
      @Ohjieun-j1j 3 года назад +9

      Oo, kahit binubugbog "submit to your husbands" pa rin. Kahit nangangaliwa "submit your husbands" pa rin. Kahit wala sa tamang pag-iisip "submit to your husbands" pa rin. Kahit pinagtangkaang gahasain mga anak "submit to your husbands" pa rin.

  • @kpopkookielover797
    @kpopkookielover797 5 лет назад +35

    Divorce:
    Philippines: Wait, thats illegal.

    • @nytrex_yt7417
      @nytrex_yt7417 4 года назад +1

      Literally

    • @takayanagi-senseissurprise2104
      @takayanagi-senseissurprise2104 4 года назад +2

      Kpop Kookie Lover
      President Duterte signs the bill.
      The Church : *SO THY HAVE CHOSEN DEATH*

    • @kurtdwaynediaz3163
      @kurtdwaynediaz3163 4 года назад

      ThePuppets Master lol

    • @teresawilliams3570
      @teresawilliams3570 4 года назад

      never new I could access my boyfriend account without his knowledge but thanks to @john.son1935 on IG his a pro who hacked he's account and gave me his Access

    • @nana-ok3vl
      @nana-ok3vl 3 года назад +1

      this is why im gonna move to other country

  • @lizawatson857
    @lizawatson857 2 года назад +3

    "A law or a bill that allows destruction of marriages and family". What's there to destroy if it's already broken?

  • @TheDroc1990
    @TheDroc1990 3 года назад +5

    Hang in there strong Filipines! What God has joined together no man SHALL separate!

    • @TheDroc1990
      @TheDroc1990 3 года назад

      @play store games are you Muslim?

  • @GREENLALI
    @GREENLALI 6 лет назад +5

    They need to focus on teaching sex education, and how to use contraception. Girls as young as 12 get pregnant .

  • @zCopyCatz
    @zCopyCatz 6 лет назад +70

    Do Pope Francis have a say in this? i mean his the highest figurehead of the Catholic Church.

    • @WeekzGod
      @WeekzGod 6 лет назад +2

      His answer is no.

    • @awkwardpanda1081
      @awkwardpanda1081 6 лет назад +29

      He actually adviced that the Philippines should ease up on divorce. You can look it up.

    • @fari1830
      @fari1830 6 лет назад +4

      AwkwardPanda
      Right, he should instead legalize divorce in the Vatican first.

    • @katbunne
      @katbunne 6 лет назад +12

      The catholic church acknowledges that some marriages are bad, and allows marriages to be annulled (divorce is with the gov, annulment is the divorce of the church basically) if the marriage is unhealthy, if a partner cheats, or if they are forced into the marriage

    • @liumei7317
      @liumei7317 6 лет назад

      Katrina It Be yeah but it just takes way to long for it to become official

  • @d.k87
    @d.k87 3 года назад +3

    Divorce is a basic right

  • @rovli816
    @rovli816 6 лет назад +7

    "You can leave your husbands but you're not allowed to get married again". Marriage is a decision. If you're a devoted Catholic, you will understand. If you have failed marriages just don't blame the church. It's takes two to tango.

    • @2460z_htdja
      @2460z_htdja 4 месяца назад

      divorce must be available out of love, if god is love

  • @chloesalem1607
    @chloesalem1607 6 лет назад +13

    i have an uncle in the Philippines who is separated from his wife, and i asked my mom if they divorced and they said divorce doesn’t exist there lol. I’m pretty sure theyre no longer living together, probably never see each other, but their no divorce. Kind of an awkward situation

    • @jbarral6509
      @jbarral6509 3 года назад

      Well it does kind of counts as divorce

  • @starb3714
    @starb3714 6 лет назад +2

    I am from the Philippines and I don't agree with legalizing divorce. This is a waste of taxpayers' money.

    • @molihua15
      @molihua15 6 лет назад +4

      You know "wasting taxpayers money" is just and excuse. Costs aren't very high. You just want control over women and not allow them agency in life.

    • @heavy_ang_patay
      @heavy_ang_patay 5 лет назад +1

      Enjoy abuse from your husband everyday, you deserve every black eye you get.

  • @ubeinomation9495
    @ubeinomation9495 2 года назад +1

    God bless all Christians Philippines My greetings from Egypt
    Alhamdulillah for the blessing of Christianity ☦️🇪🇬☦️
    🇵🇭❤️🇪🇬 🇪🇬❤️🇵🇭

  • @musiccouturexo
    @musiccouturexo 6 лет назад +4

    The catholic church’s massive tolerance of a patriarchal society is one of the reasons I stopped going to church. This is why the Philippines lags so far behind on being a progressive country. It’s 2018, it’s time to start acknowledging women’s rights/choice

    • @lukkielderamos7412
      @lukkielderamos7412 2 года назад

      MARCOS 10:2-9
      “May ilang Pariseong gustong subukin si Jesus; kaya't lumapit sila at nagtanong, “Naaayon po ba sa Kautusan na hiwalayan ng lalaki ang kanyang asawa?” Sumagot siya, “Ano ba ang utos ni Moises sa inyo?” Sumagot naman sila, “Ipinahintulot po ni Moises na ang lalaki ay gumawa ng kasulatan ng paghihiwalay bago niya hiwalayan at palayasin ang kanyang asawa.” Ngunit sinabi ni Jesus, “Ginawa ni Moises ang utos na iyon dahil sa katigasan ng inyong ulo. Subalit simula pa nang likhain ng Diyos ang sanlibutan, nilalang niya ang tao na lalaki at babae. ‘Dahil dito'y iiwan ng lalaki ang kanyang ama at ina, [magsasama sila ng kanyang asawa] at ang dalawa'y magiging isa.’ Hindi na sila dalawa kundi isa. Ang pinagsama ng Diyos ay huwag paghiwalayin ng tao.”

  • @shinaruresurrecci794
    @shinaruresurrecci794 6 лет назад +27

    I am from the Philippines. I don't mind people getting a divorce when they want but for me, if I ever get married, I don't ever want to be divorced. It's just me upholding my vows. This requires me to be very careful about who I choose as a husband though. Just don't get married if you can't see yourself being with that person no matter what. I believe marriage is more than just love, there must be commitment. Commitment keeps the marriage last more than love. I know people fall out of love sometimes but if you have said your vows, you should live upon them.

    • @randominternetcitizen
      @randominternetcitizen 6 лет назад +5

      Pero ate, di ka po sure kahit na ilang taon ka pa mag-plan if mananatiling ganun ang ugali ng papakasalan mo. People change po. You can't expect someone to live through those vows kung pinag-dishonor na ng tao whom you shared the same vows with.
      Still, I hope na hindi yun mangyari sayo and have a good family. God bless po.

    • @tasinal-hassan8268
      @tasinal-hassan8268 6 лет назад

      Please marry me then.

    • @boo1677
      @boo1677 6 лет назад

      Shinaru Resurrecci true

    • @kosaiie9630
      @kosaiie9630 6 лет назад +3

      First Name Thats why she said she needs to choose a husband carefully in the first place.

    • @Learningisfree808
      @Learningisfree808 6 лет назад +4

      Shinaru Resurrecci yeah cause people always show their true colors before you marry them right?

  • @velvetcrowe3171
    @velvetcrowe3171 6 лет назад +11

    It's frustrating to hear the reasons of these so called priests on why they don't want divorce to be implemented... 😖 I honestly think that it will benefit a lot of families out there if it were to really become a law...

  • @adeadchannel1909
    @adeadchannel1909 3 года назад +2

    "in good times and in bad, in and in " my ass, you're literally getting degraded, beaten, abused, and you're telling me it's all just "in bad times"? FFS that's an understatement to how hard it is to actually experience abuse.

  • @migspeculates
    @migspeculates 4 года назад +1

    Many politicians are against divorce because many of these crocs have lots of mistresses. Divorce granted will have a financial cost for these greedy creatures.

  • @taichiperfect
    @taichiperfect 6 лет назад +14

    Look @ Manila, it's the great definition of "be fruitful & multiply."

    • @mar-chantheintrovertedweeb2880
      @mar-chantheintrovertedweeb2880 6 лет назад +3

      Don't even get me started on the ecology in that dump site. I feel bad for Pasig River.

    • @Liz-sc3np
      @Liz-sc3np 4 года назад +1

      Be fruitful and multiply stinky squatters

  • @queenieortega9363
    @queenieortega9363 4 года назад +8

    Pabor ang simbahan sa Annulment kesa sa Divorce kase magkaiba yun.
    Annulment:
    Maaaring hiwalayan ng isa ang kanyang asawa kapag napatunayan nya na may pagkukulang ang asawa nya, gaya ng kakulangan sa pagiisip o kaya hindi sya mabigyan ng anak something like that. Kelangan may mabigat kang rason para patunayan na nagkulang talaga sya saka lng nila iaapprove ung pagpapawalang bisa ng kasal. Kapag ang isa s inyo ang di talaga kayang tumupad s sinumpaan ninyo.
    Unlike sa divorce, kahit mababaw na dahilan lang okay na, like na fall out of love, o kaya may nagustuhan n syang iba kaya nakikipaghiwalay na sya o kung ano pa man.
    Aware kau nung nangako kayo, hindi kau pinilit at may sapat kaung kaalaman nung nagpakasal kayo kaya walang dahilan pra ipawalang bisa ang kasal.
    Hindi pumapayag ang simbahan sa ganito. Isa itong uri ng kalapastanganan sa harap ng Diyos, Binabastos nila Sya ng dahil doon, nangako sila sa harap ng Panginoon diba, tinanong sila ng Pari at sumagot sila ng may lubos na kaunawaan sa sinasabi nila. Marriage is not just two people uniting with each other, it is two people uniting with the blessing of God...
    They made that promise in front of God at alam natin na once na nangako ka sa kanya kelangan mo tuparin dahil sasalutin ka kung hindi, hindi ka nangako s kung sinu-sino lang.
    "ang pinagsama ng panginoon ay di maaring paghiwalayin kailanman ng tao"
    Yun lang naman ang punto ng simabahan, hindi nila gustong kontrolin ang mga tao, gusto lng nilang masunod kung anong gusto ng Diyos. Alam nila na kapag isinabatas na ito maraming sasamantalahin ang batas na ito at bababa ang tingin ng mga tao sa salitang KASAL.
    Pero wag mo naman hayaan na saktan ka ng asawa mo, kung binubugbog ka edi hiwalayan mo sya, lumayo k skanya hanggang maging legally separated na kayo. Ang alam ko kapag 10 years n kaung hindi nagsasama automatic na legally separated na kayo at makakalaya ka na s kanya. Sa ganitong paraan hindi mo tinalakuran ang iyong pangako, yung asawa mo lng. Ipinatatanggol mo lng ang sarili mo kaya ka lumayo.
    Alam ko maraming against sa sinabi ko... Sorry, pero yun talaga yun at malamang ganun din ang paniniwala ni Duterte kaya ndi nya yan pinipirmahan. Kung gusto nyo sa ibang bansa kayo magpakasal para may divorce. Pero wag nyo na dagdagan ang kasalanan ng Pilipinas sa pagpapatupad ng batas na yan.

    • @akuto17
      @akuto17 4 года назад +1

      Nikki Ortega sana nga di maipasa yan parang ang mangyayari pwede ka magpakasal ngayon at divorce later. Wala nang saysay ung sinumpaan nila sa Diyos at sinaksihan ng mga tao. Wag kayo magpakasal kung di nyo pa kilala nang lubusan magigising asawa nyo. Gagaya na naman kayo sa ibang bansa. NO TO DIVORCE IN THE PHILIPPINES.

    • @dionysus7045
      @dionysus7045 2 года назад

      Facts

    • @2460z_htdja
      @2460z_htdja 4 месяца назад

      @@akuto17 .. paano at kailan mo sabihin na kilala mo na ang isat isa...

  • @liamdysoco4832
    @liamdysoco4832 2 года назад +9

    The church screwed us over so bad. I really wish we had been able to drive out the Spanish earlier

    • @Ymats-dj1nt
      @Ymats-dj1nt Год назад

      ironically it is not directly involve with the Spanish. How could you explain that most of the Spanish speaking countries have already legalized divorce and abortion (Colombia). You better blame it on Catholic influences on Philippine politics especially in election.

    • @liamdysoco4832
      @liamdysoco4832 Год назад

      @@Ymats-dj1nt yeah and who made us catholic?

  • @Shiningami_Jem
    @Shiningami_Jem 4 месяца назад +1

    I think our country should allow divorce only to those who are undergoing domestic violence, if not separated. After all, the society is composed of a family, not broken families

  • @Honeysmile13
    @Honeysmile13 5 лет назад +2

    Doesn't matter the religion, but it should be wholly seperated from state affairs. Lives are at stake, and blind meddling will no doubt lead to uneccessary losses.

  • @imakedumbbitchesreplytome7601
    @imakedumbbitchesreplytome7601 4 года назад +20

    Abuse happens on both parts! All this BS about it’s only men that do the abusing LMAO women are just as abousive.

    • @yeboyjayyjv9109
      @yeboyjayyjv9109 3 года назад +1

      Ye, it's crazy just how the media only shows men😂

  • @romanikkoralph1553
    @romanikkoralph1553 6 лет назад +17

    These zealots are making me laugh and I'm a Filipino.

  • @jonasong1130
    @jonasong1130 4 года назад +3

    We are very attached to God and our Catholicism

  • @pootprancia1956
    @pootprancia1956 2 года назад +2

    If Divorce many will not take Marriage seriously. It would be like a pre marital relationship that people can come and go anytime you want. It's not the solution. Those who support divorce like what Pia says " Messenger of the Demon", what else do you call it? Whether in an abusive relationship or not, Divorce must not be allowed, because God says so! The couple can be separated, but they cannot remarry as long one of them is still alive. The problem is that they want Divorce, because couples want to be remarried.

  • @dayvinmalifer3542
    @dayvinmalifer3542 6 лет назад +2

    I'm a young Filipino who comes from a Catholic family and I am starting to believe the (Catholic) religious authorities here just disagree with the government just for the sake of doing or saying something. Blocking the rights of men and women to get out of a marriage that turned into an unexpected mess makes a lifelong prison. The priests would only say it's the responsibility of the future wives and husbands to choose their future spouses very carefully but they truly do not understand the picture. Shame.

  • @ImperatorZor
    @ImperatorZor 4 года назад +10

    If people have the right to form a marriage for their own benefit they have every right to terminate it if it does not work for them.
    That is the the start and end of it.

  • @arameadezalaingo5353
    @arameadezalaingo5353 6 лет назад +6

    'Are we behind the times or are we holding on to what is right'.... you made the point Bishop!!!!! No to divorce bill.

  • @pauljohn0001
    @pauljohn0001 6 лет назад +16

    Before getting married a couple should have marriage counseling kahit 10 years na sila to make sure there is no abuse physical verbally etc... And it should be for free.

  • @6988kid
    @6988kid 3 года назад +2

    I believe the lawyer lobby is behind this. Annulment is already a huge industry here and out of reach of many ordinary Filipinos. Divorce will just take the same route.

  • @mikhailbolodo1597
    @mikhailbolodo1597 5 лет назад +1

    As a Filipino, Divorce is fine by me, as a Catholic,...still is fine, The country is fine with divorce,the people who profit from it... Not so much...

  • @TheDoodLbot
    @TheDoodLbot 6 лет назад +8

    This is one of the most frustrating things about trying to pushing more progressive legislations in my country.
    I also find PD's stance on divorce pretty ironic. Just look it up

  • @clairedon2621
    @clairedon2621 2 года назад +7

    NO TO ABORTION AND DIVORCE

    • @doeweeyah1236
      @doeweeyah1236 2 года назад +1

      Yes

    • @cristero2253
      @cristero2253 2 года назад +2

      Amen✝️🇵🇭

    • @lolololgii754
      @lolololgii754 2 года назад +5

      ah yes, you support abusive relationship and toxic family, got it :).

    • @avery7165
      @avery7165 2 года назад +1

      YES TO ABORTION AND DIVORCE

    • @JazzGultiano
      @JazzGultiano 4 месяца назад

      No to abortion agree, no to divorce? That's manipulative

  • @gilespeterson6832
    @gilespeterson6832 6 лет назад +4

    There's a good reason why I'm here in Canada.

    • @wl84728aahdjx
      @wl84728aahdjx 4 года назад

      So what? We dont care about you

    • @Ratfcker6
      @Ratfcker6 4 года назад

      don't come back here.

  • @motherhoodsbeauty9279
    @motherhoodsbeauty9279 3 года назад +2

    Well this is what happen when you let religion get involved with politics. Religion and Politics should not blend in together. They are two separate things.

  • @SamYoungRadio
    @SamYoungRadio Год назад +1

    Legalizing divorce is the same as legalizing prostitution and fraud.

  • @hime7173
    @hime7173 6 лет назад +7

    according to the comment section this is an unpopular opinion but, *I'd rather the Philippines NEVER allow it and this is coming from someone who is a teenager* (waiting for the bashing to start unless they know that everyone has their OWN opinion and this is mine)

    • @kosaiie9630
      @kosaiie9630 6 лет назад +1

      JYPNation's Princess JIN Question. I understand your opinion but don't you have any basis to explain your standpoint?

    • @hime7173
      @hime7173 6 лет назад +2

      Mochi and Ramen most opinions come from what people feel best or where their heart/ conscience point them to then they come up with logic to back it, but question, will passing said law ever guarantee that people living in poverty/ squatters to be able to return to their homes in the provinces? Will the corrupt government officials and other people who they hire stop stealing money that could possibly alleviate the poor's burden(remember the housing project which had a lot of money alloted to it but looked like if one lived there, they'll die). Do we need to OFFICIALLY LOSE our culture/ virtues for something we have never tried? Yes, there are a lot of teenage pregnancy, abortions(happening bcs of the former), family abuse but would you really marry someone if you knew they were like that, no would be the typical answer right, one problem there is that some rush, but after all this, those three problems will not stop, but people can run away from/with them, that's what passing abortion and divorce can do it will help people run away... One factor/ basis which probably gave me courage to say this aloud is because my friends and classmates, also ask that question, "How much will it improve society?" and funny fact, few say that Phil shouldn't para unique daw talaga tayo but most would say "what about our supposed virtues, which are maka-Diyos at maka-pamilya, doesn't supporting said law goes against the beliefs and virtues which are supposed to be there?" we are slowly losing them yes, but do we have to officially say, it's the end, because if we do that, we'll never be able to go back especially when we see that what we are doing doesn't seem like us, regret will just be the end of everything if people don't see all options and alternatives, and that we don't always have to follow what everyone thinks is right if we can do something about it

    • @kosaiie9630
      @kosaiie9630 6 лет назад +1

      JYPNation's Princess JIN So basically you're against divorce because you believe that it will go against your beliefs and culture? that it wont make any of an improvement to the society? Irregardless of the fact that people out there are abused by their spouses?
      I don't really get what you're trying to explain because you're all over the place bringing unrelated topics...

    • @hime7173
      @hime7173 6 лет назад +3

      Mochi and Ramen
      My point there is.. SOME will still be abused by their spouses, they'll get divorced, no more abuse, yes, done, finished, kaput(except for the pain and other stuff which was caused by the abus).. But how about other people? I'm saying what if people KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD take marriage counseling first rather than instantly going to marriage OR just know each other deep enough to know/ fix their worst and destructive attitudes before marriage and not rush into it............. If they realize said person is abusive and not fit/ready to become a spouse, then they don't marry, if they don't marry then no divorce, it's not that simple but it's the easiest way to say it

    • @kosaiie9630
      @kosaiie9630 6 лет назад +2

      JYPNation's Princess JIN People change though. You can't guarantee that they'll be the same person as before... after all, the only constant thing in this world is change.

  • @neemoeep
    @neemoeep 6 лет назад +3

    Straight to the point here... I'm a Filipino, and I support divorce and death penalty.

  • @rofaca
    @rofaca 6 лет назад +3

    This is why you need a separation of church and state

  • @danandrewmusic
    @danandrewmusic 6 лет назад +1

    This is crazy. If you are not for divorce then don’t get a divorce , if you are for it then do get a divorce! People should have choices! The church and the government should not go together because these are 2 different fields.

  • @pootprancia1956
    @pootprancia1956 2 года назад +1

    The bishop is right " Ang aral Ng Simbahan ay Aral ni Jesus". The Church is only a messenger or a protector of the word of God, it does not have the right to change anything.

  • @isshinish
    @isshinish 6 лет назад +11

    The laws on concubinage and adultery in the Philippines are written by men and is so out dated. The only way a man can be found guilty of adultery is if he buy or rents a property for the mistress.
    Catholic church in the Philippines represent the family as like the church. Most Filipinos are devoted Catholics and the reason why this kind of laws are difficult to pass. Secondly, Filipinos are very family oriented.
    Sadly, living together out of wedlock, or separating with the legal wife and having a common law wife is not uncommon. If you are not a married to your partner, by law in the Philippines you have little power on him and his estate. Even your children will have less than what the legal children have. I have seen someone died and his common law wife had no legal power on his medical decissions and his remains. This is even if the man was separated with his legal wife for almost 10 years.

    • @krishyyfan5153
      @krishyyfan5153 6 лет назад +3

      Excuse me but your Knowledge of Philippine Law is outdated...There is already Republic Act 9262 that punishes Cheating Husbands...

    • @maharlikarajah2675
      @maharlikarajah2675 6 лет назад +2

      isshinish LAWS OF HUMANS CAN BE CHANGED BUT NOT THE LAWS OF GOD... THOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY IS ONE OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF GOD

    • @isshinish
      @isshinish 6 лет назад

      maharlika rajah please use proper netiquette. Use of all caps is considered shouting. We are civilized people. Discussing of opinions is good but no need to shout. I am not saying adultery is right and should be allowed. I am pointing the fact that it is common and the result of such acts.

    • @tesstickle7267
      @tesstickle7267 2 года назад

      Definitely not written for men. The fact the husband becomes the father of a child that isn't even his means who ever wrote it was stupid. It doesn't benefit anyone